Grizzlyman
08-26-2007, 07:19 AM
I am unsure if this is the best place to discuss this particular topic because I feel it would be a cross between the discussion of the film and a hot debate over one of the most historical events in the history of the United States.
I am sure everyone here has at one point talked about the assassination of President John F. Kennedy in 1963. Oscar winning director Oliver Stone took the challenge and a huge task to 'reconstruct' the assassination of the President in his 1991 Oscar winning film "JFK".
I remember being about five years old when the film was released, for some strange reason at that age I had a fascination with the Presidents of the United States, and of course JFK is popular based on his early death. I remember at that age seeing glimpses of Oliver Stone's film after my family had rented the film. It was several years later that I finally bought the film, and recently had watched it once again. This is the kind of film that because it is based on a true event and has had so much discussion, it really keeps you guessing and wondering what exactly was that reason as to why President Kennedy was assassinated on November 22nd 1963 while taking a limo trip with his wife Jacquline and Governor Connally in Dealy Plaza, Dallas Texas.
Each time I have watched Oliver Stone's version of events, I find myself obsessed with this case. It has been so many years, but you really find yourself believing Oliver Stone's take of events which is actually exceptionally accurate especially if you are a historian or conspiracy theroist who has carefully analyzed The Warren Commission, versus New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison's investigation into the assassination of President Kennedy.
The film itself is a superb mystery in my opinion, the editing and reenactments and that chilling John Williams score are perfect. Kevin Costner protrays Jim Garrison and his performance was exceptionally fascinating, knowing the work and obsessions he put into this case just to find the truth. Costner has strong support from a major all-star cast that includes Kevin Bacon, Sissy Spacek, Joe Pesci, Laurie Metcalf, Michael Rooker, Brian Doyle-Murray, Gary Oldman (in an excellent protrayel of Lee Harvey Oswald) and an Oscar nominated performance by Tommy Lee Jones. Stone also manages to utilize some very intriguing cameo appearances from Jack Lemmon, Walter Matthau, Sally Kirkland, Donald Sutherland, Ed Asner, Vincent D'Onofrio, John Larroquette and an especially enjoyable dramatic turn from John Candy.
After viewing this film, each time I find myself obsessing what really happened and how this plan to eliminate a US President was carefully executed. Taking Garrison's more believable take of events, versus The Warren Commission's fabrications, Oswald could not have murdered the President, and if he did, or planned on murdering President Kennedy, the facts are all pointed to the direction that the entire "loan assassin" theory could never had existed. Following Stone's analysis, it is very apparent that there were many organizations that were either displeased or fed up with President Kennedy's decisions and policies since the day he was elected in office. We know that Oswald, Clay Shaw (portrayed by Jones), David Ferrie (protrayed by Joe Pesci) and Jack Ruby (protrayed by Brian Doyle Murray) had many discussions amongst themselves many months before the assassination and were furious over the Bay of Pigs fiasco in Cuba, and the four of them had conducted several Cuban exile training camps that were shut down by the FBI and President Kennedy. Ed Asner's protrayal of Guy Bannister gives some insight on his ties to the FBI and CIA. Jack Ruby, although tied to the mob, probably murdered Oswald 48 hours after Kennedy's assasination simply to cover up any actual truth. Oswald probably did want Kennedy dead, but the fact that he was already working in the Book Depository months before, it seems as though he was set up from day one. Ruby himself would later die under mysterious circumstances, and Ruby was indeed seen by eye witnesses in Dealy Plaza. Several other key witnesses would also die under "mysterious" events in the years following Garrison's long investigation. Among them included Ruby's girlfriend Rose Cheramie, who apparently was thrown out of a car by Ruby's mobsters and taken to a hospital were she confessed to doctors days before the assassination and tried to warn them about the possible danger that existed. Another witness who also died in a mysterious car accident, Lee Bowers, a railroad station manager, claims he saw several cars enter and leave the grassy knoll in Dealy Plaza and that several men came out and had guns. Yet the Warren Commission stated that there were no shots fired from the Grassy Knoll by the fence, and that the "magic bullet" theory from Oswald was in fact correct. The famous Zapruder film of course now shows that Kennedy had in fact been shot from the front, not in behind. So we know for sure that another shooter did exist. The entire investigation, as well as Kennedy's own autopsy was covered up by those involved, the secret servce, FBI, CIA, The Dallas Police Department and yes even Vice President Johnson, who strongly disagreed with Kennedy's policy to not go into Vietnam. Does it seem too strange that only a day after Johnson is succeeded into office following Kennedy's murder that he immediately reverses Kennedy's decision to go into Vietnam? The government, of course, (as usual in many situations) was somehow involved in Kennedy's death. They wanted him out of office, and it amazes me just how sinister some people can go to achieve their goal. As Oliver Stone's film continues to progress, Donald Sutherland, who protrays the mysterious unknown military consultant "X" gives better indepth information concering the governmental coverup into Kennedy's death. The Government probably had it planned, then sent out the military trained rifleman to Dallas probably Cuban exiles, which connects back to that group associated with Shaw, Oswald, Bannister and Ruby and then carried out the mission. It was further stated by one Dallas Policeman, Sgt. D.V. Harkness that he had pulled several hobos off a freight train after the assassination and were taken to the police department for questioning, yet their was never any record of their arrests nor their questions. Could these hobos have been the actual shooters at the grassy knoll? And why were so many Secret Service Agents wasting time questioning key eye-witnessess only moments after the assassination?
I suppose these are many questions that are never to be answered. It is an enigma that continues to this day. Stone's film did head all the way to Congress when the Assassinations Act of 1992 was passed by Congress. These files will be avialable (I hope, unless our Government continues this coverup) in 2029, in which all the records into Kennedy's death will be released to the public. Maybe then, will we figure out this long mystery. As it is with the 9/11 conspiracy, Kennedy's conspiracy lives on to this day, and I just figured I would share my piece of mind on the matter and that I really enjoyed Oliver Stone's intriguing film.
I am sure everyone here has at one point talked about the assassination of President John F. Kennedy in 1963. Oscar winning director Oliver Stone took the challenge and a huge task to 'reconstruct' the assassination of the President in his 1991 Oscar winning film "JFK".
I remember being about five years old when the film was released, for some strange reason at that age I had a fascination with the Presidents of the United States, and of course JFK is popular based on his early death. I remember at that age seeing glimpses of Oliver Stone's film after my family had rented the film. It was several years later that I finally bought the film, and recently had watched it once again. This is the kind of film that because it is based on a true event and has had so much discussion, it really keeps you guessing and wondering what exactly was that reason as to why President Kennedy was assassinated on November 22nd 1963 while taking a limo trip with his wife Jacquline and Governor Connally in Dealy Plaza, Dallas Texas.
Each time I have watched Oliver Stone's version of events, I find myself obsessed with this case. It has been so many years, but you really find yourself believing Oliver Stone's take of events which is actually exceptionally accurate especially if you are a historian or conspiracy theroist who has carefully analyzed The Warren Commission, versus New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison's investigation into the assassination of President Kennedy.
The film itself is a superb mystery in my opinion, the editing and reenactments and that chilling John Williams score are perfect. Kevin Costner protrays Jim Garrison and his performance was exceptionally fascinating, knowing the work and obsessions he put into this case just to find the truth. Costner has strong support from a major all-star cast that includes Kevin Bacon, Sissy Spacek, Joe Pesci, Laurie Metcalf, Michael Rooker, Brian Doyle-Murray, Gary Oldman (in an excellent protrayel of Lee Harvey Oswald) and an Oscar nominated performance by Tommy Lee Jones. Stone also manages to utilize some very intriguing cameo appearances from Jack Lemmon, Walter Matthau, Sally Kirkland, Donald Sutherland, Ed Asner, Vincent D'Onofrio, John Larroquette and an especially enjoyable dramatic turn from John Candy.
After viewing this film, each time I find myself obsessing what really happened and how this plan to eliminate a US President was carefully executed. Taking Garrison's more believable take of events, versus The Warren Commission's fabrications, Oswald could not have murdered the President, and if he did, or planned on murdering President Kennedy, the facts are all pointed to the direction that the entire "loan assassin" theory could never had existed. Following Stone's analysis, it is very apparent that there were many organizations that were either displeased or fed up with President Kennedy's decisions and policies since the day he was elected in office. We know that Oswald, Clay Shaw (portrayed by Jones), David Ferrie (protrayed by Joe Pesci) and Jack Ruby (protrayed by Brian Doyle Murray) had many discussions amongst themselves many months before the assassination and were furious over the Bay of Pigs fiasco in Cuba, and the four of them had conducted several Cuban exile training camps that were shut down by the FBI and President Kennedy. Ed Asner's protrayal of Guy Bannister gives some insight on his ties to the FBI and CIA. Jack Ruby, although tied to the mob, probably murdered Oswald 48 hours after Kennedy's assasination simply to cover up any actual truth. Oswald probably did want Kennedy dead, but the fact that he was already working in the Book Depository months before, it seems as though he was set up from day one. Ruby himself would later die under mysterious circumstances, and Ruby was indeed seen by eye witnesses in Dealy Plaza. Several other key witnesses would also die under "mysterious" events in the years following Garrison's long investigation. Among them included Ruby's girlfriend Rose Cheramie, who apparently was thrown out of a car by Ruby's mobsters and taken to a hospital were she confessed to doctors days before the assassination and tried to warn them about the possible danger that existed. Another witness who also died in a mysterious car accident, Lee Bowers, a railroad station manager, claims he saw several cars enter and leave the grassy knoll in Dealy Plaza and that several men came out and had guns. Yet the Warren Commission stated that there were no shots fired from the Grassy Knoll by the fence, and that the "magic bullet" theory from Oswald was in fact correct. The famous Zapruder film of course now shows that Kennedy had in fact been shot from the front, not in behind. So we know for sure that another shooter did exist. The entire investigation, as well as Kennedy's own autopsy was covered up by those involved, the secret servce, FBI, CIA, The Dallas Police Department and yes even Vice President Johnson, who strongly disagreed with Kennedy's policy to not go into Vietnam. Does it seem too strange that only a day after Johnson is succeeded into office following Kennedy's murder that he immediately reverses Kennedy's decision to go into Vietnam? The government, of course, (as usual in many situations) was somehow involved in Kennedy's death. They wanted him out of office, and it amazes me just how sinister some people can go to achieve their goal. As Oliver Stone's film continues to progress, Donald Sutherland, who protrays the mysterious unknown military consultant "X" gives better indepth information concering the governmental coverup into Kennedy's death. The Government probably had it planned, then sent out the military trained rifleman to Dallas probably Cuban exiles, which connects back to that group associated with Shaw, Oswald, Bannister and Ruby and then carried out the mission. It was further stated by one Dallas Policeman, Sgt. D.V. Harkness that he had pulled several hobos off a freight train after the assassination and were taken to the police department for questioning, yet their was never any record of their arrests nor their questions. Could these hobos have been the actual shooters at the grassy knoll? And why were so many Secret Service Agents wasting time questioning key eye-witnessess only moments after the assassination?
I suppose these are many questions that are never to be answered. It is an enigma that continues to this day. Stone's film did head all the way to Congress when the Assassinations Act of 1992 was passed by Congress. These files will be avialable (I hope, unless our Government continues this coverup) in 2029, in which all the records into Kennedy's death will be released to the public. Maybe then, will we figure out this long mystery. As it is with the 9/11 conspiracy, Kennedy's conspiracy lives on to this day, and I just figured I would share my piece of mind on the matter and that I really enjoyed Oliver Stone's intriguing film.