Halloween 3-D (Thread 2)

[The Dark Vampire]

Well The Old Thread (http://www.f13community.com/board/showthread.php?p=459745#post459745) was over 1600 posts long so time for a new one

[Cody]

Lussier & Farmer interview (http://www.fearnet.com/news/interviews/b22718_interview_director_patrick_lussier.html) (thanks to Natman)

What can we expect from Michael Myers in Halloween III?

Lussier: Todd and I wrote it to be a continuation of Zombie's Halloween II and the set-up for the franchise that he did, a sort of reboot of that. Then take it back to the roots of John Carpenter and create a scenario that echoes the first film, the late ‘70s film that John made. And going back to the tone of Carpenter and the fun that his movie had, and how much you really liked all the characters and how compelling they are. That to us was the reason to do it. Both of us love the original Halloween and remember seeing it in the theater for the first time and being completely terrified and blown away by it. It's been repeated so many times – there's pieces of the original Halloween in Halloween H2O. That was something we were very excited to do. The script's still out there. We're waiting for Dimension Films to decide that's what they want to make next. We spoke recently about it and voiced our passion for the project.

Farmer: We took Zombie's story and we continued that story without breaking the rules, without cheating. We kept it in the world that he did. But our goal was to return to a John Carpenter tone. And while Zombie created a Michael Myers that was sort of a T-Rex – and I appreciate that; it was something different – at the same time I always felt Halloween was one of the movies that made me what I am. So I've always loved the fact that Michael was a prick and devious in the way he operated. He was The Shape. Which we're continuing in a fun way – part Zombie and part Carpenter.

In returning to the Carpenter tone, is the film not likely to be in 3D?

Lussier: When they originally asked us to do it, they wanted it in 3D. Whether it's 3D or not now, I have no idea. That's for the grown-ups. We conceived it to work either way. Story comes first. So the story will work whether it's shot in 2D or 3D. If it's shot in 3D, we'll put a little 3D rollercoaster in it so that everybody can get a blast out of it. That's always up to those who paid for it. [Laughs.]

Farmer: It's a Halloween movie, and of course we're thrilled and can't wait to do it. We wrote it before going into production on Drive Angry, and the plan was to shoot it before Drive Angry. But it just turned out to be impossible. At this point now, all the focus is on Hellraiser. And as soon as we're done with Hellraiser then hopefully we can roll right onto Halloween.

[Darth Reaper]

I don't really see it as being all that different, just the same principle working in reverse and just sort of being blindly loyal to something because it has a label. Why excuse Halloween 5 (random example) for being a shitty movie just because it's part of the series? If it sucks on the same level as Zombie's movies (which it is pretty close to doing), does it really matter? Yeah, you can say "but it has teh real Myerz!!!1!," but he's so far removed from the original conception that even that really doesn't matter.- The Dream Master

A) I'm not being blindly loyal to something because it has a label. I'm loyal to the original HALLOWEEN because it's good and that's that.

B) Again, the foundation of the original HALLOWEEN series is solid. You could disregard everything that comes afterwords and start building on that same foundation again and you have a better chance of creating something that's good.

Again, not excusing Zombie's movies (I do not like them very much at all), but they suck because they suck, not because they're remakes.

I never said that Zombie's movies suck because they're remakes. I just think they suck, period.

what about Halloween 8? Can't pull out the Pleasence card on that one and the "it's the real Myers" argument is similarly irrelevant, so let's talk about how that one is also a pretty bad movie--certainly anything that would have followed it would have to suck, no?

Like Tall Man I enjoy HALLOWEEN 8, in spite of all of its flaws. I certainly consider it better than Zombie's movies. So, following that up isn't such a big deal.

"Just because you like something doesn't make it good."

Sure it does. As far as I'm concerned if a movie succeeds in entertaining me it's good. It may be flawed as all Hell, but if it can achieve that one thing it's still good. A movie is only bad when it fails to entertain me.

Like, I don't give a damn about any future NOES movies at this point because I didn't care for the remake. That's why you won't really see me saying much about it until a new one comes out...but I also won't be saying there's no way it could be good because just about anything is possible.

But, admit it, you'll be dubious about the chances of anything that follows the ANOES remake being good until you get something that changes your mind. You may be willing to give the movie a chance, but in your heart of hearts you won't be terribly hopeful until something is provided that can make you feel differently.

Well, that's where I'm at right now. I've already said that I'll see the movie at least once to see what it's like and maybe Lussier and Farmer will change my mind. But, right now all I know for sure is that H3-D is meant to follow Zombie's movies, and the people behind it intend to bring it back to Carpenter's style of storytelling. I need something solid to convince me that they can pull this off. Until then I must remain dubious, because the foundation that they're building on is substandard and that's not a good starting point.

[The Dream Master]

Again, the foundation of the original HALLOWEEN series is solid. You could disregard everything that comes afterwords and start building on that same foundation again and you have a better chance of creating something that's good.


So, let me get this straight--you can build on a foundation that's been tainted by hordes of bad sequels and disregard that...but you can't do the same thing for two movies? Why can't Halloween 3-D do the same thing that a "Halloween 9" could have done? I think it could with the right approach. Maybe you should look at H3D as an opportunity to be its own solid foundation.

But, admit it, you'll be dubious about the chances of anything that follows the ANOES remake being good until you get something that changes your mind. You may be willing to give the movie a chance, but in your heart of hearts you won't be terribly hopeful until something is provided that can make you feel differently.


Which is exactly my point. I am dubious, but you won't see me begrudging people who think otherwise. If Rob Zombie announced tomorrow that he was coming back to do Halloween 3D, my interest in it would drop significantly. I've said numerous times that Farmer and Lussier are the exact reason why I'm giving this movie a shot. If something similar happened for a new NOES movie, my thoughts and feelings would adjust accordingly. But if the Dunes basically said they're just going to get the same old crew back together and follow up the last one, I just won't care. I'll be indifferent as hell. But you know what? I'm also not going to lie to myself--I know without a doubt I will see any movie in these series, so I kind of hope for the best no matter what. Who wants to sit through a piece of shit? And if you're so convinced that you're going to, I would just advise you to save your time and money and avoid it outright.

As far as I'm concerned if a movie succeeds in entertaining me it's good.

Could you really tell someone that Halloween 8 is a "good" movie and keep a straight face? Of course you couldn't. You'd have to say, "well, I like it, even if it's got some stupid parts," which means it's flawed just like you said. A movie with an abundance of flaws can be entertaining, but it doesn't make it a good movie. Like Halloween 6, I'll argue up and down that it's a pretty good slasher, but my god, it's incompetently plotted, so I wouldn't dare say it's "good."

[Deathscythe]

I'm not quite sure what you guys are even debating about? People don't wanna see this because they didn't like Zombieween?

Basically, I'll use a Bond metaphor:

Roger Moore replaced Sean Connery and George Lazenby as James Bond, his first two entries have a 64% (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/live_and_let_die/) and a 52% (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/man_with_the_golden_gun/) percent at RT...but his third entry has a 79% (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/spy_who_loved_me/), showing that there is room for improvement in the Moore Series?

^ Is that what you are trying to say?

[The Dream Master]

Well, all I was trying to say way back was that I'm looking forward to it due to Farmer and Lussier and the fact that they seem to want to go back to Carpenter's roots. Others (Tall Man, Darth Reaper) are saying they don't really care because it's following Zombie's movies, which is sort of understandable, but I just really take issue with the logic that something has to suck because it's following something shitty. It doesn't have to.

Shit, Bond is a great example. I didn't think the last 2 Brosnan movies were anything special, but I was really fucking excited when they announced their intentions with Casino Royale, which was indeed better than any movie Brosnan was in for me (and yes, I know, Tall Man is about to quote this and say I'm wrong, even though he's just gonna basically say "nuh uh, the others were better," which will get us nowhere).

[Deathscythe]

Well, I left you a visitor message regarding the Bond series.

But yeah, I'll give this film a shot. If I like it, then lucky me. If I don't, I'll always have the 1978 original.

[The Dream Master]

Exactly. Yeah, it kind of sucks when you see something you really like go to the shitter, but I think you should also try to meet it halfway a little bit if possible. In this case, they're giving me a couple of guys whose work I have enjoyed and putting them into a franchise I like, so I'm willing to meet them in the middle, even if it is following up 2 movies I didn't care for.

[Darth Reaper]

Could you really tell someone that Halloween 8 is a "good" movie and keep a straight face? Of course you couldn't.- The Dream Master

Actually, I could, or at the very least I'd say that it's 'pretty good', which basically means that it's a flawed movie but it at least accomplishes the basic task of entertaining me.

Maybe you should look at H3D as an opportunity to be its own solid foundation.

I can't do that because it's not a foundation, it's a continuation of something else. Like it or not, Rob Zombie's movies are the foundation.

So, let me get this straight--you can build on a foundation that's been tainted by hordes of bad sequels and disregard that

HALLOWEEN has not been tainted by its sequels. I can watch it on its own and say that's a damn fine movie.

...but you can't do the same thing for two movies?

Basically, yes, and I've explained why.

I think you should also try to meet it halfway a little bit if possible. In this case, they're giving me a couple of guys whose work I have enjoyed and putting them into a franchise I like, so I'm willing to meet them in the middle, even if it is following up 2 movies I didn't care for.

I've met this series half way twice and I was let down both times, now it's on them to win me back. The fact that new people are coming in who intend to take the series back to its roots is potentially good, but nothing can change the fact that it's continuing something that sucks, and I'm going to need to see something outstanding to make me able to forget that. I've already said twice that I'm going to see this movie at least once and see what happens, but I'm not getting my hopes up for it until I get a concrete reason to do so.

But yeah, I'll give this film a shot. If I like it, then lucky me. If I don't, I'll always have the 1978 original.- Deathscythe

That's not good enough for me. I want new stories that feature the character that I've grown to know and love. Instead, I'm stuck with the remake series.

[The Dream Master]

And once again you manage to send mixed messages. You can enjoy the original Halloween despite its lesser sequels, yet you refuse to see how someone might be able to enjoy Halloween 3D even though it's following 2 movies that aren't as good. Like I said before, it's the same principle in reverse.

As for what you want from the franchise, go back to what I said before: either give it a chance or move on and enjoy what you have. You don't think I'd love to see a new NOES sequel with Englund? Of course I do, but I am also a realist who knows it's the not happening. So instead of devoting my time to complaining about what it isn't, I'll either embrace it for what it is or ignore it (with the latter being most likely).

Just to illustrate my point using the whole foundation argument: look at something like Halloween 5, which I consider to be the worst of the Halloween series. Watching that movie on its own, you couldn't tell me it was spawned by one of the greatest movies of all time. It's so far removed in quality that I wouldn't believe you. On the other hand, what if Halloween 3D comes out and is wicked fucking good and so far removed from the "foundation" of Zombie's movies that you wouldn't even know it?

[The Tall Man]

Did you tell NOES to fuck off after you found part 5 boring?
I didn't find Nightmare 5 boring in 1989. I loved it. My thoughts on it now (as in 2011) are the results of a re-evaluation in recent years. I'm allowed to change my mind.

I've been watching these things a long time. There was a time when I really loved "Dracula A.D. 1972". That's right. I said it. But you wouldn't know that because I wouldn't have mentioned it because it's no longer true. I loved H20 when it came out. Gave it a four star (out of four) review when I reviewed it and said it was the best of the series. You can't presume to know what I thought of a film when it was fresh.

Why can't Halloween 3-D do the same thing that a "Halloween 9" could have done?
Because Michael Myers will not be in that movie. They can call him "Michael Myers" all they want, but it's NOT him. Zombie's hulk is no closer the Shape than SNL's Mike Myers is.

Could you really tell someone that Halloween 8 is a "good" movie and keep a straight face?"
Halloween 8 is a decent movie. You should see how stone-faced I am. Does it have things in it you don't care for or object to? Perhaps. But the movie is solidly made, particularly from a storytelling standpoint. Zombieween, and ESPECIALLY Zombieween II, can't boast that... not even drunk on a bet. Even Halloween 5 doesn't have anything as ludicrous as white ghost horses.

Of course you couldn't.
^^^^^^

Like Halloween 6, I'll argue up and down that it's a pretty good slasher, but my god, it's incompetently plotted, so I wouldn't dare say it's "good."
I see nothing wrong with the plotting of Halloween 6. Either version.

Roger Moore replaced Sean Connery and George Lazenby as James Bond, his first two entries have a 64% (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/live_and_let_die/) and a 52% (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/man_with_the_golden_gun/) percent at RT...but his third entry has a 79% (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/spy_who_loved_me/), showing that there is room for improvement in the Moore Series?
Fuck Rotten Tomatoes! "Live and Let Die" and "The Man With the Golden Gun" are aces. Who gives a fuck what they think?

Others (Tall Man, Darth Reaper) are saying they don't really care because it's following Zombie's movies, which is sort of understandable, but I just really take issue with the logic that something has to suck because it's following something shitty. It doesn't have to.
It not gonna have Michael Myers in it and I've explained about that elsewhere. I don't have any interest in following the adventures of an unshaven hobo in a sorta-kinda Shatner mask. I'm a Shape man.

(and yes, I know, Tall Man is about to quote this and say I'm wrong, even though he's just gonna basically say "nuh uh, the others were better," which will get us nowhere).
Well, you know what happens when you make an assumption...

but I think you should also try to meet it halfway a little bit if possible.
Turn that cap back around, Lincoln Hawk.

nothing can change the fact that it's continuing something that sucks, and I'm going to need to see something outstanding to make me able to forget that.
This.

That's not good enough for me. I want new stories that feature the character that I've grown to know and love. Instead, I'm stuck with the remake series.
And this. Hard.

You can enjoy the original Halloween despite its lesser sequels, yet you refuse to see how someone might be able to enjoy Halloween 3D even though it's following 2 movies that aren't as good.
I don't think he's saying that at all! He's saying HE isn't enthused about an upcoming Halloween 3-D because it's building on Zombie's films. And he has every right to feel that way for whatever reasons. Just as I do. Or you do or anyone else.

You don't think I'd love to see a new NOES sequel with Englund? Of course I do, but I am also a realist who knows it's the not happening.
"Never say say never again..."

On the other hand, what if Halloween 3D comes out and is wicked fucking good and so far removed from the "foundation" of Zombie's movies that you wouldn't even know it?
Then empty your bank accounts and spend it fastly... because Christ is getting ready to return.

You're just gonna have to let this one go, DM. We don't have to feel the way you do, just as you don't have to feel the way we do. And you don't have to like how we feel, just as we don't have to like how you feel. And that's alright. You like what you like and we like what we like. And that's the end of it.

T.M., Esq.

[The Dream Master]

Actually...I'm not the one who needs to let anything go. This was brought to me by you guys, not the other way around. I think I was talking about Hellraiser and mentioned that I thought Halloween 3D could be cool in passing before you guys chimed in. Which is cool, I like discussion; I just don't like discussion that's started by others who then back off when they get challenged back.

I never once said that anyone had to like what I like, and in fact I think I've said several times that it's anyone's right to tell Halloween 3D to fuck off just because they don't like Zombie's movies. I'm just answering the posts that were directly quoting mine because that's what discussion is all about, in theory.

I just feel like I'm actually making the effort to understand what you guys are saying (which is pretty easy because it mirrors my feeling on a PD NOES sequel at this point), but I'm getting weird looks because I'm basically saying, "well, these two guys have done some cool shit, maybe part 3 will be good even if it continues Rob Zombie's movies." I don't think that's outrageous an outrageous thing to say. If you guys are the ones that have issue with me saying that (which it seems you did), then I think it's up to you to let it go. Me? I'm more than happy to move on from this point. I think we've all that's needed to be said. I'm not even that damn worried because I'm convinced this movie won't happen for several years.

Halloween 8 is a decent movie.

I don't think saying something is "decent" is the same thing as saying it's "good." I would even say Halloween 8 is decent.

The only thing I'm gonna touch in the rest of that post is that Halloween 6 remark...really? The theatrical version really doesn't make any sense. The whole movie is saying one thing until the end, when it goes 'lol maybe not, the end." It's pretty bad. Oh yeah, and Halloween 5 might not have white horses, but it's got this weird hermit who cares for Michael for no reason. And Jamie's got a psychic connection with him. For no reason . Oh, and cookie woman. For no reason.

;)

[nottidelterrore]

Regardless if it follows Zombie's shitfests or not, I'm curious to see what they'll deliver us. I'm just happy that Ron is gone.

Ding dong the hack is gone.

[The Dream Master]

Exactly. That's an example of trying to meet something halfway. We all bitched and complained about Zombie for years, and now he's gone and is replaced by a couple of guys we all (generally) seem to like. That's a victory for me. Maybe a smaller victory because it's still following up Zombie, but still, it's about the best we can ask for, short of a sequel that actually goes back to the original continuity.

I will miss the rampant Ron bashing though.

[nottidelterrore]

New slogan: Ron is gone.

And I'm happy that Farmer and Lussier are the dudes on board. I loved MBV 3D. And didn't Lussier do editing or something on H20? And Farmer is just BA.

[The Dream Master]

Yeah, Lussier edited a ton of shit, including New Nightmare and Scream (well, in fact, he's been like Craven's personal editor since like '94).

[nottidelterrore]

Yeah, Lussier edited a ton of shit, including New Nightmare and Scream (well, in fact, he's been like Craven's personal editor since like '94).

That's cool. I remember seeing his name as editor on one of the Halloweens. Pretty sure it is H20.

I will miss the rampant Ron bashing though.

That's the only downfall to a Ronless Halloween movie. I guess a lot of headaches, *headdesks*, arguments, warnings, bannings, etc. will be saved this time around. I still look back on those days and just smile. :sniffle:

[The Dream Master]

Don't worry, I'm sure Lords of Salem will provide plenty of lulz.

[nottidelterrore]

Haha true. I kinda like the premise of Turds of Salem but Ron will find a way to fuck it up, I'm sure. Maybe we'll get to see the debut of Hareld and Beavis Crotch from Ron's unused script for Friday the 13th Part 2. :D

[The Tall Man]

I just feel like I'm actually making the effort to understand what you guys are saying (which is pretty easy because it mirrors my feeling on a PD NOES sequel at this point), but I'm getting weird looks because I'm basically saying, "well, these two guys have done some cool shit, maybe part 3 will be good even if it continues Rob Zombie's movies." I don't think that's outrageous an outrageous thing to say.
Okay, maybe not. I love Todd. Man promised me a lapdance for promoting "Drive Angry". But let me go to the furthest extreme to make my position on the matter clear. And this is mine and mine alone and don't I expect that anybody would back me up on it.

John Carpenter could write and direct Zombieween 3-D... and I still wouldn't want it to be made or care that much about it when it came out. You are your history. I want to see adventures with Michael Myers. Not this thug Zombie made. No matter how Todd writes him, he still won't be Myers. A crude imitation at best.

I don't think saying something is "decent" is the same thing as saying it's "good." I would even say Halloween 8 is decent.
Fine then. "Halloween 8" is good. I enjoy it. Stone faced... Winning?

The only thing I'm gonna touch in the rest of that post is that Halloween 6 remark...really? The theatrical version really doesn't make any sense. The whole movie is saying one thing until the end, when it goes 'lol maybe not, the end." It's pretty bad.
That doesn't bother me about the film. I don't see it that way. I mean I UNDERSTAND what you're saying and chuckle about the way you're saying it (cause it's hilarious), but I just don't see it that way.

Oh yeah, and Halloween 5 might not have white horses, but it's got this weird hermit who cares for Michael for no reason. And Jamie's got a psychic connection with him. For no reason . Oh, and cookie woman. For no reason.
It still kicks the shit out of slutty Not-Laurie, greedy-selfish McLoomis, and ghost steeds.

Cookie woman > Zombieweeniverse

T.M., Esq.

[Callum Sanderson]

They might aswell slap a different mask on him and rename the films completely and just inspired by Halloween. This 7 foot, animal torturing, metal head isn't what I wanted to see..

He's not the shape.. not atall..

That stalking faceless killer with the knife and all the different ways he setups to murder the people on the night, who was that little boy who, one night picked up a knife and killed his sister, that is just a complete mystery to us and how he thinks.

The character Zombie has given to you is some kid whose been brought up in a rough household, likes hurting living creatures smaller than him for kicks and listening to his headbanging music, throwing on a mask like he's part of some deathmetal band and killing people because he's twisted from his up bringing and just doesn't know any better. Theres nothing evil or mysterious about him, he's just a thug.

[The Dream Master]

Well the origin can't be changed, which does suck, but at least Lussier and Farmer are trying to go back and make him as "Shape-like" as possible, which is I guess the best we can ask for at this point.

Fine then. "Halloween 8" is good. I enjoy it. Stone faced... Winning?

cJ7IK9cY4D0

Where's you stone face now? And your god? (I wish I could have found a clip of the main huar with the chainsaw, which is just terrible--"this is for [insert random character who died here]!").

WINNING

(Actually, most of H:R entertains me too; it makes me laugh. If Matrix were here, he'd laugh too.)

[nottidelterrore]

I'm in the camp of enjoying Halloween: Resurrection. It's dumb fun to me. And I still laugh my ass off every time Busta says "Trick or treat, muthafucka!" That's just funny to me.

And I like it better than H20 and Ron's trailer wrecks.
ADDED:
The Lex Express stopped by and would love to share his thoughts on Farmer and Lussier:

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c332/albadeimorti/46069b13.jpg

[The Dream Master]

GOOD GOD ALMIGHTY, THE LEX EXPRESS....WHAT'S HE DOING HERE?

[nottidelterrore]

OH MY GOD! THAT'S...THAT'S...LEX LUGER! WHAT DOES HE WANT!?

[The Dream Master]

MY GOD, IT LOOKS LIKE LUGER ISN'T FINISHED WITH MICHAEL MYERS YET!

http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/5089/torturerack286611.jpg

[nottidelterrore]

:lol:

So many classic and hilarious pictures were made in those threads.

But I can't see any humor in a picture of Todd Farmer in the torture rack. Just not as funny as Ron or any of his characters haha.

[Darth Reaper]

Well the origin can't be changed,- TheDreamMaster

And, therein lies the potential deal-breaker. No matter how Shape-like Lussier and Farmer make him he isn't The Shape. He isn't Michael Myers. He's Rob Zombie's poor immitation of Michael Myers. Nothing can change that, nothing can make me forget it, and it will take something truly exceptional to make me overlook it. That will potentially spoil the experience for me.

[The Dream Master]

Yeah, I am totally on board with what you're saying (and have been saying) there. I'm just adding the caveat that it could be good for what it is. Yes, you can criticize it for not being an iteration of the character you like, but I think it's possible to acknowledge that something is still well-executed even when it doesn't cater to your personal tastes. Look at all the shit I said about how Zombie got shit so wrong with his two movies. That still didn't stop me from saying H2 is a really well shot movie and did some things right. I'm holding out hopes that Farmer and Lussier will do even more things right so that I can find some enjoyment; otherwise, I'm just going to be paying to see a movie that I want to suck, which is kind of unproductive.

And if you don't even want to give it a chance, that's fine. I just happen to like my way of going about it. I mean, isn't it kind of cool to be pleasantly surprised by something?

[Cody]

Tom Atkins' script note (http://wendago.com/2011/05/30/still-angry/)

We get to make movies with Tom Atkins. You know, his only note when he read Halloween 3D was that he should have more sex with the girls. I gotta tell ya, I completely agree with that.

[Sean [The Wildcard]]

http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/5089/torturerack286611.jpg

SLOBBER-KNOCKER!

[The Dark Vampire]

I'm part of the group who isn't happy that the movie is carrying on from Zombie's ones and for that reason I think I'll wait for to see what others think of it 1st if the feedback is good then I'll go if it's not then like the other 2 I'll avoid it like Hogan avoiding retirement.

[Rick]

I'm not happy that it continues from Zombie's messes either, but from the ideas that Farmer has been touting I'm more then willing to give this a chance.
I like My Bloody Valentine 3D so I'm going to at least try to go in with an open mind.
I still think they should start over again, though.

What ever happened to everyone saying Myers hasn't been The Shape since the original?
I remember everyone used to be on board with that.

[Deathscythe]

Well the origin can't be changed, which does suck, but at least Lussier and Farmer are trying to go back and make him as "Shape-like" as possible, which is I guess the best we can ask for at this point.



cJ7IK9cY4D0

Where's you stone face now? And your god? (I wish I could have found a clip of the main huar with the chainsaw, which is just terrible--"this is for [insert random character who died here]!").

WINNING

(Actually, most of H:R entertains me too; it makes me laugh. If Matrix were here, he'd laugh too.)

I was the user that uploaded that video onto youtube, but had lost the password for that account. Every time I see it posted at the OHMB and F13, it always makes me laugh.

[nottidelterrore]

We get to make movies with Tom Atkins. You know, his only note when he read Halloween 3D was that he should have more sex with the girls. I gotta tell ya, I completely agree with that.

I agree with with it too. It'll happen in the dressing rooms anyway so it may as well carry over to the film as well.

[The Tall Man]

cJ7IK9cY4D0

Where's you stone face now?
Still here. I like that scene. I especially loved it in theaters because they were trying to convince us that Myers had been an abused child and I liked the idea that recollection of his father's abusive language might deter him... Sadly, that whole concept turned out to be BS when somebody explained to me the "evidence" in the house was planted.

Still, least Busta didn't threaten to crawl over there and skullfuck him.

And your god?
I'm hoping Heaven. Or enjoying a really good Chipotle burrito on earth.

(I wish I could have found a clip of the main huar with the chainsaw, which is just terrible--"this is for [insert random character who died here]!").
Even so, those are just moments in the film. They don't ruin the thing as a whole, no matter how bad Sara's piss-poor impression of Pam from Friday 5 is.

And I still laugh my ass off every time Busta says "Trick or treat, muthafucka!"
You should hear Bianca deliver that line in Workprint B.

What ever happened to everyone saying Myers hasn't been The Shape since the original?
Zombieween happened. :doggy:

Put things in perspective.

I remember everyone used to be on board with that.
I never subscribed to that huarseshit.

T.M., Esq.

[The Dream Master]

Still here. I like that scene. I especially loved it in theaters because they were trying to convince us that Myers had been an abused child and I liked the idea that recollection of his father's abusive language might deter him... Sadly, that whole concept turned out to be BS when somebody explained to me the "evidence" in the house was planted.

Then doesn't all that render that scene especially bewildering? :X Seriously, that almost reminds me of something that could happen to Jason, not Michael. Dumb.

Oh and wait, you liked the abused child angle with Myers? Why was it okay for Halloween 8 to take that route but not Zombie? Both would have been equally piss poor, and I'm glad 8 was at least smart enough to say "lol fooled you, nevermind."

[The Tall Man]

Halloween 8 didn't make us sit through it, though. It was backstory, not footage.

T.M., Esq.

[The Dream Master]

It's still a really bad idea that completely changes the Myers character. Myers is "The Shape" not only because he skulks around in the shadows, but because he's completely enigmatic and has no reason behind his madness. The "disturbed childhood" shit is so mundane; I don't care if you have to sit through it or not, it's such a cop-out storytelling decision.

[Rich]

I think when they found Made in China written on the arms and legs in the basement that wa supposed to tell us that EVERYTHING they found in that house was bullshit, which would also discredit the chair with all those chains and shit on it.

Personally, I enjoyed Halloween Resurrection more then the Rob Zombie films. I felt like Michael was really Michael in that film, and not just a big guy in a Michael Myers mask.

[Darth Reaper]

I always take the end of that scene between Michael and Freddie as being Michael deciding to have some fun with Freddie. I think his intent was for Freddie to return to the garage later in the evening, find Nora strung up, and shit himself. That seems to me like something that Michael would find funny. Freddie tells him to go to the garage with Nora, so he does, and then he kills her and leaves the body for Freddie to find. "Gotcha asshole!"

I think when they found Made in China written on the arms and legs in the basement that wa supposed to tell us that EVERYTHING they found in that house was bullshit, which would also discredit the chair with all those chains and shit on it.- Rich

That's what Dream Master's saying. At least H:R has the decency to write all of that stuff as a fraud that was set up by Freddie.

[Rich]

Come to think of it, with Busta dressing up as Michael, Michael just being himself had the same type of psych out effect on Busta that being dressed as a ghost had on PJ in the original.
ADDED:
That's what Dream Master's saying. At least H:R has the decency to write all of that stuff as a fraud that was set up by Freddie.

Yup, in Resurrection, it is a suggestion that one can either take or leave.

[Jus-X]

Regardless if it follows Zombie's shitfests or not, I'm curious to see what they'll deliver us. I'm just happy that Ron is gone.

Ding dong the hack is gone.

As if you pulled it out of my mind!!!

I'm ecstatic that Myers is going back to his Carpenter roots and will probably see it because of that. So it follows a crapfest left by Rob Zombie... make Michael a silent killer hiding in the shadows out to scare people rather than the Incredible Hulk bashing his way through the film in a dark and harshe tone!!!

[Deathscythe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPns3r0CSPE


Best review, I laughed so much.

[Callum Sanderson]

It's too late to make this hulk into the shape. How can we accept a giant hobo smashing through everything to become a swift and silent killer? He's a fan of KISS band (shows he has music taste and he can make his own choices to express himself ) and there isn't mystery to him, this guy you could see in a court room standing a trial, but the original Myers, was just too out of touch with humanity to even see him in a court room.

Best review, I laughed so much.

At first when he said Halloween at 8 I thought he said Halloween 8 as in Resurrection and mistook Rob Zombie for the director. Busta Rhymes in a Rob Zombie movie!

[Ron]

Ughh..this sounds like a complete mess.

[nottidelterrore]

Malek Akkad wakes up from a nightmare(Ron Zombie's Halloween and Halloween II) and realizes that it was all just a bad dream. He goes to get in the shower and Patrick Duffy is in there.

Halloween 3-D begins.

[Rich]

I will say this for Rob's films. They aren't bad films. They are good ''horror'' films, but just not great ''Halloween'' films. You can't make a franchise film with a ''fuck the franchise'' attitude. That just doesn't work. Here is a guy who always shits on the genre making genre films and then having the audacity to try to change the image of an icon that is much larger then any of us including Rob Zombie.

[Callum Sanderson]

Yeah most of his characters are those sleazy whitetrash type, and he's now giving Michael those trates.
His films are real horror, they do have alot of harsh and violent scenes, but what made Halloween so effective, wasn't the violence, we didn't come to see a guy in the mask, dent a guy's head with a metal pole. It was the atmosphere, not the kills.

[Rich]

The Halloween sequals did have graphic violence in them. My gripe is Michael's portrayal, especially in Zombieween II.

[The Dream Master]

That's one of the main reasons the Halloween sequels completely miss the boat and can't compare to the original. Just about anytime you trade in shock/gore for atmosphere/suspense, it doesn't turn out well.

But at least 2 and 4 had a little bit of both, I'll give them that.

[Rich]

I think Halloween 4 is one of the best movies in the genre. I can't fault the Halloween sequals for adding blood to the mix. They all had good atmosphere but you can only scare someone with the same idea so many times. The Halloween films are just as much of slasher films as Friday the 13th.

[The Dream Master]

Well, yeah, that's the problem: the Halloween series got to be more like Friday the 13th, which isn't what I'd want to do, ideally. Talk about trying to doing "the same idea"--that's exactly what Halloween tried to do (admittedly with more plot than F13, even if the plots got to be stupid). They just basically fell in line with the body count cycle that Friday the 13th made popular. I'd rather have 10 movies that took the approach of Halloween (and that could pull it off half as well) than 100 movies that take the F13 approach.

[WestinHillsDays]

You know, I do applaud The Weinstein Company. If you compare them to the WB, you will notice that they do care about their franchises, and that although they may have not pleased each single Halloween and Scream fan, they are still producing movies either as sequels or reboots, and in my opinion they do seem to care about pleasing us. Scream 4 did poorly in the box office, but the merit of the film was recognized, and Harvey Weinstein has announced that a sequel is planned. As a Scream fan, I would personally say "thank you" to the Weinstein Company if I could.

[Rich]

I don't think you could've made more Halloween films like the original. Its hard to scare people the same way twice.

[The Dream Master]

I don't think you could've made more Halloween films like the original. Its hard to scare people the same way twice.

But it's okay for the F13 series to make the same movie ten more times? Then again, I don't think they were ever going for "scares" with F13.

I get what you're saying, but I disagree. Black Christmas and Halloween are both pretty similar and both are effective in their own ways.

[Rich]

That was just the evolution of the genre. Halloween is F13 minus the gore.

[The Dream Master]

Actually, F13 is Halloween minus the talented directors and actors, plus the gore.

And it's a de-evolution in my eyes.

[Rich]

As a genre the slasher has evolved from Psycho to Saw. People give Halloween all the credit because of what it started and it does deserve its credit. However people also tend to discredit Friday the 13th.

Friday has a lot of tallented people in front and behind the camera. Ihave worked on film myself and know the kind of hard work that goes into it, so I wouldn't be so quick to discredit so many peoples hard work by saying that there are no tallent in F13 because that is a flat out lie and anyone who has ever worked on film whether you made coffee or have worked on screen in makeup (which Ihave) understands this.

[The Dream Master]

I didn't say there was no talent involved with Friday the 13th, but let's be real: Cunningham is no Carpenter, and no one in the cast can touch Pleasence, Curtis, etc. I mean, I like Kevin Bacon, but even in F13, there's nothing that'll lead you to believe he'd be a huge star someday.

No one should discredit Friday the 13th, but they should give it proper credit: it's the one of the main culprits in selling out the slasher genre to cheap shocks and gore. It led to all of the really poor knock-offs, etc. (not saying it's a bad movie for that, but if you're talking influence, that's part of its legacy). So if I just step back and look at the slasher cycle from '78-'89, it devolved for me (even though I still really love a lot of the slashers from that era--MBV, The Burning, The Prowler, etc.). It picked back up again with Scream in the 90s.

[Rich]

I always thought it was just as artistic creating gore effects then creating suspense. It takes a hell of a lot of skill and is just a ''different'' way to entertain. I do agree with you about a lot of the shitty knock offs. I liked all the films you mentioned plus Maniac and Maniac Cop and probably a few more. Halloween spawned a genre full of goodies and baddies. F13 certainly is one of the goodies.

[The Dream Master]

Well, yeah, obviously I'm not discounting the merits of gore. I love that shit. Savini was the best thing about the original Friday the 13th. I'm just saying that I like atmosphere/tension/suspense more, and it's especially a bonus when gore can go along with that (maybe that's why I like giallo flicks beetter than straight slashers). I'm not even discounting most of the Friday the 13th movies when I'm talking about the cheap-ass body count movies. Most of the F13 sequels are definitely the best of those types.

[Jus-X]

I mean, I like Kevin Bacon, but even in F13, there's nothing that'll lead you to believe he'd be a huge star someday.


I saw KB on Jay Leno a couple nights ago. They did a montage of his well known films before bringing him out... Friday the 13th was not one of them. I wasn't expecting them to show it, but thought it'd be cool of they did.

What's sad is the fact that Kevin Bacon, Johnny Depp, and Patricia Arquette never seem to acknowledge their breakout roles... at least from what I've seen so far.

[Deathscythe]

I saw KB on Jay Leno a couple nights ago. They did a montage of his well known films before bringing him out... Friday the 13th was not one of them. I wasn't expecting them to show it, but thought it'd be cool of they did.

What's sad is the fact that Kevin Bacon, Johnny Depp, and Patricia Arquette never seem to acknowledge their breakout roles... at least from what I've seen so far.

Well, Johnny did do a cameo in Part 6. I've never seen Trish Arquette comment on anything NOES, I mean, she didn't even return for Part 4!

[Jus-X]

Johnny did a cameo, yes, but never brought up the roles he's had.

[The Tall Man]

They talked about it briefly on Depp's "Inside the Actor's Studio". Depp acted very dismissive.

I saw Kevin Bacon talk about Friday 1 on an episode of "Dennis Miller Live" he did where the night's topic was horror movies. There was also some Horror Awards show he did where he mentioned Friday 1.

T.M., Esq.

[Ron]

They talked about it briefly on Depp's "Inside the Actor's Studio". Depp acted very dismissive.


They show a clip of it in Never Sleep Again, right?

[The Dream Master]

Despite no greenlight, this movie now has a release date (http://collider.com/halloween-3d-release-date-my-week-with-marilyn-release-date/97146/): October 26th, 2012.

[Cody]

A great date at that.

[The Dream Master]

Too bad I have zero confidence in it actually happening. :misery:

[nottidelterrore]

Despite no greenlight, this movie now has a release date (http://collider.com/halloween-3d-release-date-my-week-with-marilyn-release-date/97146/): October 26th, 2012.

October 26th, 1985

[The Dream Master]

October 26th, 1985

When this baby his 88mph, Haddonfield is gonna see some serious shit.

[WesReviews]

I didn't say there was no talent involved with Friday the 13th, but let's be real: Cunningham is no Carpenter,

And Zombie is no Cunningham.

[Rich]

I wonder why they would give a release date for it. That tells me they are planning a rush job which doesn't bother me because they already have a script and these films don't take long to make.

[nottidelterrore]

And Zombie is no Cunningham.

And Zombie is no Othenin-Girard. :D

[Deathscythe]

And Zombie is no Othenin-Girard. :D

Bwhaha, I don't actually that Orthenin-Girand is that bad as a director. There are some scenes in H5 that actually well-directed, its just that god awful script that ruins it.

[Cody]

The Todd's only comment (http://twitter.com/todd_farmer/status/82140756638306304) on the release date news:

Holy cow. That's alot of emails, FB messages and PMs. Love the excitement but nothing's changed. We're still doing both. :)

[Voorheeszilla]

Bwhaha, I don't actually that Orthenin-Girand is that bad as a director. There are some scenes in H5 that actually well-directed, its just that god awful script that ruins it.

Girard is so much of a fucking hack he shouldn't even be classified as a director. Has he even directed a film since H5? :lmao:

[Deathscythe]

Girard is so much of a fucking hack he shouldn't even be classified as a director. Has he even directed a film since H5? :lmao:

...you could pretty much say that for most of the Halloween sequels directors.

[The Dream Master]

Girard has directed like 20 movies, which I think would be about 5 times as many as Ron Zombie.

[nottidelterrore]

...you could pretty much say that for most of the Halloween sequels directors.

And the remake writer/director. :X

[The Dream Master]

Oh yeah, and he directed Omen IV, which is pretty good for what it is.

[nottidelterrore]

And his interview on that's included on the H5 DVDs is hilarious for some reason.

[Rich]

Bwhaha, I don't actually that Orthenin-Girand is that bad as a director. There are some scenes in H5 that actually well-directed, its just that god awful script that ruins it.

I agree. I like Halloween 5. Even if you don't, it isn't like he wrote it.

[The Dream Master]

I agree. I like Halloween 5. Even if you don't, it isn't like he wrote it.

Well, actually....

[Deathscythe]

Wait, why do you guys call him RON Zombie?

[Cody]

Work is (http://twitter.com/todd_farmer) being done on the script.

Working on it today in fact. Shhhh, don't tell nobody though. ...

Hey. I put Jason in space! And today I played with Michael Myers THEN Pinhead.

scouse_91 (http://twitter.com/scouse_91/status/82912041521774592): "halloween 3d, can you say if theres any good twists in it?"

Twists and twisted. We hope. :)

[Sean [The Wildcard]]

Just for shit and giggles, they should throw William Fichtner in this.

[Jus-X]

Twisted? As long as Michael is strangling and stabbing and slashing throats and not smashing and stomping and throwing, I'll be fine.

[Cody]

Farmer and Mane on a stroll (http://twitpic.com/5h26lr)

Farmer. Mane. Mears. (http://twitpic.com/5h3ylz)

[Jus-X]

:pray: please don't cast Mane as the Shape, please, please don't cast Mane.

[Cody]

I believe the job is Mane's if he wants it. Being Farmer's drinking buddy and cohort in the toilet papering of Derek Mears' house definitely doesn't hurt his chances.

[nottidelterrore]

I wouldn't mind Mane returning because if Lussier is at the helm, at least Mane will be working for a competent director.

[Utellme]

:pray: please don't cast Mane as the Shape, please, please don't cast Mane.

I agree what is so tuff about a 6'4 220 pound Michael or a 6'3 200 Michael not some 7'2 390 BearderFace Hoody Michael Banner Bum. Please No PLease No

[The One and Only]

Hey, Mane was a pretty good Micheal in the Zombie flicks. He was one of the few highlights in two rather dreadful installments. Maybe, besides Brad Dourif and Danieel Harris. But he played a pretty good Shape, despite Zombie's direction. If he wants the job, give it to him.

[Jus-X]

Utell gave the correct explanation to my rant. Mane was just too big and too wide and too... harshe. He did a great job playing Jason. But Jason belongs in F13 movies, not Halloween movies.

[The One and Only]

Hell, Wilber, Shanks, and Brad Lorre weren't exactly midgets themselves. And no complained about them as the Shape.

[WesReviews]

Yeah, I think we're stuck with Mane, unfortunately. I always wanted to see Loree given another shot, but it will most likely never happen.

[Darth Reaper]

I agree what is so tuff about a 6'4 220 pound Michael or a 6'3 200 Michael not some 7'2 390 BearderFace Hoody Michael Banner Bum. Please No PLease No- UTellMe

Well, to be fair, since this is apparently supposed to be a continuation of Rob Zombie's films, they kind of have to make Michael around the same size as he was in the first two films for the sake of continuity.

Hell, Wilber, Shanks, and Brad Lorre weren't exactly midgets themselves. And no complained about them as the Shape.- The One and Only

But, none of them were nearly as tall as Mane. They were a good size for Michael, tall and imposing but not gigantic. Michael's size in Zombie's movies seems like overkill.

[nottidelterrore]

Oh shit Wilbur's name was mentioned! Now we have to remind everyone how fat he was in Halloween 6. Holy shit he was fat! Blah blah blah. (I still don't think he was fat in H6, by the way. I'm being a smart ass.)

Now I must destroy every copy of Halloween 6 that I rent.

[SlasherFreak]

Mears has definitely been shooting something...his face is littered with irritation from latex.

[Rick]

Oh shit Wilbur's name was mentioned! Now we have to remind everyone how fat he was in Halloween 6. Holy shit he was fat! Blah blah blah. (I still don't think he was fat in H6, by the way. I'm being a smart ass.)

Now I must destroy every copy of Halloween 6 that I rent.

Tubby Wilbur Myers.

Mears has definitely been shooting something...his face is littered with irritation from latex.
IMDB lists
The Tape (pre-production)
The Odd Murderer (rumored)

2012 The Aggression Scale (filming)
Chissolm

2012 Hansel and Gretel: Witch Hunters (post-production)
Edward

2011 Arena (post-production)
Brutus Jackson

2010 See You on the Other Side (short) (completed)
Sucio Al

Not that IMDB is that reliable with anything that hasn't actually been completed.

[WesReviews]

Oh shit Wilbur's name was mentioned! Now we have to remind everyone how fat he was in Halloween 6. Holy shit he was fat! Blah blah blah. (I still don't think he was fat in H6, by the way. I'm being a smart ass.)

Now I must destroy every copy of Halloween 6 that I rent.

http://oh-the-horror.com/datas/users/8-myersshakesweight.jpg

"He had the widest ass. The DEVIL'S ass."

[Jus-X]

http://oh-the-horror.com/datas/users/8-myersshakesweight.jpg

"He had the widest ass. The DEVIL'S ass."

This is the funniest shit I've seen in a long time. Oh man. :lol: :lmao::sniffle:

[Voorheeszilla]

Haha...fat bastard. :D

[Utellme]

Heck H3D just hopes its even close to good as H6 with Mane it wont be.Id take fatty over 7'8 390 ECW bearderface hoody david banner wanna be street bum anyday.

[The Dream Master]

"Bearderface" is still one of the top five funniest things to come out of the whole Zombieween thing.

[nottidelterrore]

Bearderface still makes me LOL.

The funniest thing to come out of the whole Zombieween thing are the finished products. What a couple of jokes!

[Utellme]

As bad as that thread got and as much as tempers flared etc,etc.It really helped me alot to settle in here if you can believe that.Now im friends to this day with people i use to argue with there thats good stuff in my book Mang.

[Jus-X]

"Bearderface" and "Zombieweeners," classic.

[Utellme]

Why cant they get Brad Loree from Halloween 8 to portray The Shape Michael Myers. Or Chris Durand from H20.

[Darth Reaper]

Didn't you read my last post?

[Utellme]

Didn't you read my last post?

Wheres it at ?

[Darth Reaper]

It's on page 4, post number 99.

[Voorheeszilla]

Heck H3D just hopes its even close to good as H6 with Mane it wont be.Id take fatty over 7'8 390 ECW bearderface hoody david banner wanna be street bum anyday.

I wouldn't, considering Mane did a hell of a lot better in the role than Wilbur ever could have. I wanted Michael Myers, not the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man. :X

[Utellme]

I wouldn't, considering Mane did a hell of a lot better in the role than Wilbur ever could have. I wanted Michael Myers, not the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man. :X

Whats so wrong with Loree ?

[WesReviews]

Seriously, when did Mane ever play Michael Myers?

I only saw a hobo in a dirty Leatherface mask. :X

[Rich]

I wouldn't, considering Mane did a hell of a lot better in the role than Wilbur ever could have. I wanted Michael Myers, not the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man. :X

I disagree entirely. Michael was portrayed much better in Halloween 4 and Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers. :p

[WesReviews]

Agreed. Give me fat Myers any day over Big Sky.

[Jus-X]

It was a beer gut, seriously. Beer gut is definitely better than Hulk Smash Myers.

[nottidelterrore]

Fat Myers > Big Sky/Nitron/Gully Gaspar

Maybe the filmmakers were trying to be realistic and throw some age weight on Myers. I doubt it but some people do put on some weight as they get older.

[The Dream Master]

I wish we'd get Rob Zombie's Jason vs. Michael; Jason could be played by Kevin Nash so we could have a reunion.

[WesReviews]

Fat Myers > Big Sky/Nitron/Gully Gaspar

Maybe the filmmakers were trying to be realistic and throw some age weight on Myers. I doubt it but some people do put on some weight as they get older.

Exactly. Miner did the same thing when he had Myers stop to take a dump in H20.

[Utellme]

Seriously, when did Mane ever play Michael Myers?

I only saw a hobo in a dirty Leatherface mask. :X

He never did, as close as he even came was the 1st Zombieween.

AKA David Banner Hoody Bearderface

I disagree entirely. Michael was portrayed much better in Halloween 4 and Halloween: The Curse of Michael Myers. :p

Spot on a theres nothing a wrong with Loree's performance either.

[nottidelterrore]

I wish we'd get Rob Zombie's Jason vs. Michael; Jason could be played by Kevin Nash so we could have a reunion.

NAD8ZAOlo6M

[Utellme]

Mang Dark Vampire showed how to do this you tube clip. And i still cant do it ?



Mang Dark Vampire showed how to do this you tube clip. And i still cant do it ?

5yW2NIZNsyU[YT]

[YT=Kevin Nash]5yW2NIZNsyU"




On my end here is just a big white box buts thats getting closer ?

[nottidelterrore]

How to post Youtube videos like everyone else ?

When i try theres nothing there ill show you right here in this post.The exact same thing i tried in H3D thread my last post no video shows up ?

1 I go up to You Tube tab here on this forum.

2

It says please enter the option for your [YT] tag :

I do all this and get nothing ?

It wont even show the You Tube Link in option 2 i can see it but yet its blank when i post it public ?

http://youtu.be/5yW2NIZNsyU

This is the only way i can it to work and theres not video pic like others do it ?

5yW2NIZNsyU

[WesReviews]

I think maybe Mane's beard should have its own spin-off... THE BEARDING.

[Voorheeszilla]

The beard jokes are older than Mother Teresa's pussy. Come on people.

[nottidelterrore]

Mang Dark Vampire showed how to do this you tube clip. And i still cant do it ?



Mang Dark Vampire showed how to do this you tube clip. And i still cant do it ?

5yW2NIZNsyU[YT]

[YT=Kevin Nash]5yW2NIZNsyU"




On my end here is just a big white box buts thats getting closer ?

Put 5yW2NIZNsyU where you put Kevin Nash-Buried, or cremated as well as where you already have it then you should be good, sir.
ADDED:
I think maybe Mane's beard should have its own spin-off... THE BEARDING.

Co-starring Leo Rossi as Turkell. Rated R for being darke, innovative, visionary, rapey-stabby, and harshe.

[Jus-X]

The beard jokes are older than Mother Teresa's pussy. Come on people.

Nah Man, they're as eternal as Nightmare on Elm St Movies.

[SlasherFreak]

Rumor has it that Rob Zombie shaved his non-acting wife's pussy for Zombieween 2, and that's where Bearderface got his beard, grungy with crabs and all.

[The Dream Master]

Rumor has it that Rob Zombie shaved his non-acting wife's pussy for Zombieween 2, and that's where Bearderface got his beard, grungy with crabs and all.

There's won't be a Ron Zombie beard joke that tops this one, boys.

[Jus-X]

Rumor has it that Rob Zombie shaved his non-acting wife's pussy for Zombieween 2, and that's where Bearderface got his beard, grungy with crabs and all.

L... M... A... O...
:lmao:

Funniest shit of the year!!! :lol:

Fucking hilarious buddy!

[nottidelterrore]

There's won't be a Ron Zombie beard joke that tops this one, boys.

Co-signed.

[Cody]

Sounds like there may be trouble, judging by a recent Tweet from Farmer:

Dunno what to do or think any more. I'm fired because I won't do a PG13 horror or a found footage Myers. Hollywood blows.

Makes me wonder if Halloween 3 is what Adam Green was talking about being offered in this interview (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/08/26/weve-got-the-scoop-on-hatchet-3-and-a-new-found-footage-slasher-remake/):

The found footage thing is dead … It’s not going to work, trying to fool people into thinking it was a real tape … When [The Blair Witch Project] first came out I loved it, I thought it was the most innovative thing, even Paranormal Activity … I really liked the movie when I saw it. I never believed it was real but I liked the movie, I liked the experience…

Now they’re taking, and I can’t say the name of it, but a very well-known slasher franchise, and when I got the call I was like, “I would love to do this!”

Then they were like, “OK, it’s going to be a found footage movie.”

I was like, “Why?”

And they were like, “Because Paranormal Activity made a lot of money.”

[Rick]

Wow, that's shitty.
PG13 and found footage?
I don't necessarily mind found footage, except you aren't going to get anything from Myer's perspective unless he decides to pick up the camera lol.
And it's going to look a lot like H8.
PG13 though? Granted the original Halloween would be PG13 by today's standards and if done correctly can be frightening, see Insidious as proof, but Insidious was a much different type of movie then Halloween and so is Paranormal activity.
As far as Farmer getting fired though, I wonder if Lussier is off the project too or if he's still in?
It sucks for Todd, but if that's not the project he wants to do then the producers are going to find someone who wants to do it.

ADDED
Now that I re-read his tweet I wonder if the PG13 and Halloween were the same project?
From the way it's typed it now looks to me like he's off 2 projects.

[The Dream Master]

I think he's referring to 2 projects.

But wow, the Akkads/Weinsteins/whoever really need to look at what happened the last time Halloween followed that sort of trend with part 8. :X

[Rich]

This is because of the recent success of Paranormal Activity. Personally I would rather a gore filled slasher Michael Myers movie then a found footage Michael Myers movie. Halloween Resurrection was not a found footage movie, because the footage was happenin live. It was not found and documentry style.

I would not mind a PG13 Halloween film without tits and with suspense and terror, but between slasher film and found footage film, I'll take the slasher.

[Rick]

No, H8 wasn't a found footage movie, but it looked like one in a lot of parts with the grainy web cams and the shaky POV shots.

[The Dream Master]

I never said Halloween 8 was a found footage movie, but it was certainly following in the footsteps of Blair Witch and jumping in on the reality TV craze. Its plot was not germane, and it smacked of execs saying "how can we make Halloween hip and relevant?" And it sounds like that's what they're doing here.

[Rich]

Personally I have always seen Halloween Resurrection as being a smart film. It teacher the younger Youtube generation that there are dangers on the internet.

Of course on the surface it was good at what it was initially doing, being a slasher movie.

[Cody]

BD (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/26223) interviews Farmer:

BD: So is 'Halloween' in the same boat (as Hellraiser)? Do they want to go PG-13 with that as well?

TF: I know PG-13’s always discussed. To me it seems impossible to do 'Hellraiser' as a PG-13, and it seems DIFFICULT to do 'Halloween' as PG-13. What we wrote was definitely not PG-13. Probably the biggest change is that since so much time has gone by, is that I don’t think a sequel to Rob’s 'Halloween II' would still play, so I’m not sure that our original script would work. We literally started ours five minutes before Rob’s movie ended. So much time has gone by... there have been other things discussed, other ways to tell that story.

BD: And unlike Hellraiser you actually DID write a complete script for 'Halloween 3D', right?

TF: Yeah, I think it was September of 2009, we had eight days to write the script if we were going to prep it, shoot it, and wrap it before we had to go prep for 'Drive Angry', it was all supposed to be done very fast. At the end of the day there was just no time or money to pull it off.

BD: Now that 3D is seemingly not a big draw anymore, you think it might be 2D if/when it happens? Was the 3D element really important in the script?

TF: We had some “Comin at ya!” stuff written into it, but it could be done 2D. I think 'My Bloody Valentine' and 'Drive Angry' both play great in 2D perfectly well. I don’t know what THEY’RE thinking, but if I was the boss, I wouldn’t do it in 3D at this point. I think 'Final Destination' is a perfect movie to do in 3D, I don’t know if 'Halloween' is. It’s still huge overseas though, but I think people are just tired of it here in the States. James Cameron style epics will keep 3D alive, not this other stuff.

BD: But they still want SOMETHING with the 'Halloween' name, right?

TF: Absolutely. The date has been set. October of 2012. And even that can be pushed forward if the movie’s ready, like the last couple. They’re listening to ideas and pitches... I don’t know what the future holds, but I know there will be another one.

BD: Another horror director hinted last week he went in for a meeting on a slasher franchise and they want it to be found footage... tell me that’s not what they’re doing for 'Halloween'.

TF: There’s another slasher franchise that’s discussing found footage, I think that’s the one he was talking about, not 'Halloween'. But again, if they’re no longer following Rob’s movie, then what DO you do? So I know found footage was brought up as an idea, but there were a bunch of things that were mentioned. I know I’m not a fan of doing Michael Myers with found footage, but that’s just me. I like found footage when I can go in and believe that it’s possibly real, like 'Paranormal Activity' or even 'Blair Witch'. With Freddy or Michael or Jason, it seems harder to me – I know those guys aren’t real. Doesn’t mean it can’t be scary movie or even done well, if the right guy comes in with the right idea it could work.

BD: Give us a tease, what was your original 'Halloween 3D' story?

TF: Basically we opened at the end of Rob’s movie; the whole first act is the end of Rob’s movie, at the end of which Michael is killed. But instead of Scout stabbing Michael... Rob had these visions and things, so we had it so that she thinks she’s killing Michael, but it’s a vision and she’s actually been stabbing Loomis. And then Michael puts the mask on her and she stumbles outside (as we see in the theatrical version of 'Halloween II'), and then when she takes the mask off that’s when we’d switch to 3D. It would be flat until then. Anyway, Laurie survives and is taken to a mental institution, and then Michael returns, but it’s not Rob’s Michael that returns, it’s the Shape – he stalks, he gets the original white mask back, and the coveralls. So it’s still in Rob’s world, but with the Carpenter version of Michael. And of course we had a great role for Tom Atkins; he’d be playing the doctor of the hospital. And the whole time the TV in the rec room would be playing the Silver Shamrock theme, and at one point Atkins would walk by and yell (Farmer switches to a damn good Atkins impression) “Turn that shit off!” And I’d keep my pants on this time. Also, there was never anyone cast. Our intention was to bring his cast back, but it never got that far. Scout may have seen an outline, but no one was ever in negotiations, I’m certain no one was officially attached.

BD: But it was going from the theatrical ending of 'Halloween II', not the director’s cut version?

TF: Yeah, when we were hired the theatrical was all that was available. We never saw Rob’s original ending.

[Rich]

We never saw Rob’s original ending

They didn't think to go to a used video store and pick up a copy for a couple of bucks. :p

[The Dream Master]

They didn't think to go to a used video store and pick up a copy for a couple of bucks.

They wrote their script the weekend Halloween 2 was out in theaters...it was literally months before the Director's Cut was out.

[Darth Reaper]

I admit, I think a 'found footage' kind of film with Michael Myers could work if it had the right story and talent behind it. But, I'm still not entirely sure that's the kind of HALLOWEEN movie I'd want to see.

I do know that I'd rather see them do something that's not connected to Rob Zombie's movies. They just don't work for me, and trying to make the next one more "John Carpenter-ish" isn't going to make me forget what it's continuing, which would hinder the experience for me.

Whatever they do, I'd rather see them bring back the original Michael Myers.

P.S. I wonder if this other franchise that they're talking about is SCREAM.

[The Dark Vampire]

I admit, I think a 'found footage' kind of film with Michael Myers could work if it had the right story and talent behind it. But, I'm still not entirely sure that's the kind of HALLOWEEN movie I'd want to see.

I do know that I'd rather see them do something that's not connected to Rob Zombie's movies. They just don't work for me, and trying to make the next one more "John Carpenter-ish" isn't going to make me forget what it's continuing, which would hinder the experience for me.

Whatever they do, I'd rather see them bring back the original Michael Myers.

P.S. I wonder if this other franchise that they're talking about is SCREAM.

They could just continue the Carpenter movies and just have a brief mention that 2 movies were made based upon Michael Myers.

[Jus-X]

I don’t think a sequel to Rob’s 'Halloween II' would still play
The date has been set.
So wait, we're definitly getting another Halloween and there's a chance we don't get anything set in the Zombieverse?!?!?

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100328044936/callofduty/images/c/cf/Awesome.jpg

And of course we had a great role for Tom Atkins; he’d be playing the doctor of the hospital. And the whole time the TV in the rec room would be playing the Silver Shamrock theme, and at one point Atkins would walk by and yell (Farmer switches to a damn good Atkins impression) “Turn that shit off!” And I’d keep my pants on this time. Also, there was never anyone cast. Our intention was to bring his cast back, but it never got that far. Scout may have seen an outline, but no one was ever in negotiations, I’m certain no one was officially attached.

I think this would redeem the shitfest we got from Zombie if we got this in a Halloween sequel... but I'm guessing since they're looking for something PG-13ish and Farmer spoiled a lot of this script after mentioning they may go a different route now, this will never happen. :(

I admit, I think a 'found footage' kind of film with Michael Myers could work if it had the right story and talent behind it. But, I'm still not entirely sure that's the kind of HALLOWEEN movie I'd want to see.

http://www.cpsu.org.au/multiattachments/24146/Image/NO.jpg

[Sean [The Wildcard]]

If they somehow end up going with a 'found footage' route for HALLOWEEN, I am already NOT interested.

Even if it's not attributed to the Zombieverse. Seriously, this series is beyond saving right now.

[skuppy]

LOL, I liked the idea of Tom Atkins being back in Halloween 3 (farmer's version). Sounds like it would have been fun.

Being the Weinsteins, I'm sure they'll fuck this up as usual. I really wish some other studio would get the rights to the Halloween franchise. Does Malek Akkad have no say in this or is he in agreement with the Weinsteins?

[Rick]

I'm not sure found footage will work, but as long as Rob Zombie isn't attached they have a ticket sale from me.

[Darth Reaper]

They could just continue the Carpenter movies and just have a brief mention that 2 movies were made based upon Michael Myers.- The Dark Vampire

Or better yet, they could not acknowledge Zombie's movies at all.

Seriously, this series is beyond saving right now.- Sean [The Wildcard]

I think you're giving up on the series a touch too quickly.

[The Dream Master]

The series has been in the shitter for twenty years; if someone has stuck with it for that long and is just now giving up hope, I dunno, that seems reasonable.

(I'll always see new movies regardless, but still.)

[Rich]

LOL, I liked the idea of Tom Atkins being back in Halloween 3 (farmer's version). Sounds like it would have been fun.

Being the Weinsteins, I'm sure they'll fuck this up as usual. I really wish some other studio would get the rights to the Halloween franchise. Does Malek Akkad have no say in this or is he in agreement with the Weinsteins?

Malek is not his father. It is starting to seem to me that Bob and Harvey write him a check, pat him on the head, and tell him to go sit in the corner like a good little boy while we make our next trendy product.

I think creatively the worst thing that ever happened to Halloween was Dimension. The series was much better off as an independant series. Of course I'm sure Donald had a lot to do with what made the old ones so good.

I am not crazy about a found footage Halloween film myself, but it isn't like it can't work. It would just take a good director to make it work. I would rather not see the series do that though.

I do not feel Halloween can not be saved. That is stupid talk. All it takes is a good script and good directer. I had faith in the Farmer Lussier team, and now that they seem to be off the project, my expectations for the next movie went down big time.

[Natman]

I don't get why they don't just film the script they already have. What, they'd rather go a completely new route than recast Laurie?

And yet I completely see why they're thinking of going the found footage route. It's not that Paranormal Activity made a lot of money. Not just that anyway, it's that it was made on the cheap. Found footage movies don't cost a lot to make and just those words are like crack for the Weinsteins.

[Rich]

I think it is a trend thing. Paranormal Activity is an extremely successful franchise. Battle Los Angeles was a documentry style film on a large budget. Found footage and doc type movies seem to be the thing now.

[Rick]

Like they said Paranormal Activity made a lot of money.
But I don't think the style is right for Halloween.

[Rich]

I wonder what Dean Cundey would say about this.

[William Bludworth]

I didn't HATE Rob Zombies Halloween movies. The first one wasn't bad. The backstory was cool as hell and Myers was awesome. I also liked Dr Loomis. BUT the 2nd half of the movie seemed kinda rushed. I really liked the music in this movie and it had a lot of cool elements in it that I did like. HOWEVER Halloween 2... ASIDE FROM THE CORPSE FUCKING The opening of the movie was really fucking awesome all the way up to the point of Laurie waking up from her dream. Micheal was brutal he looked badass and the first kills were great. After that... well the movie was kinda... Not a Halloween film. It was cool that Zombie tried something different, the acting was pretty good and the characters were good. I liked a lot of things about the movie but there was a lot more that I didn't like. I don't hate the movie but as a Halloween film it really failed. Brad Dourif was my favorite character in this. The death scenes were really good though... I'll give a 3rd one a chance no matter who makes it though.

[Cody]

Farmer's latest (http://www.horror-movies.ca/2011/09/hellraiser-remake-halloween-3d/)

Will we ever see a Farmer/Lussier Halloween?

TF: It’s possible. Since the franchise will likely no longer be following ZH2 that means the script we wrote is out. Shame. Really liked that script. But the company has been hearing ideas. We’ve been talking with Malek (Producer) and have a take prepared. Patrick and I even fine tuned some ideas this morning and will talk to Malek this week.

[Rick]

I like that.
Absolutely nothing concrete and they'd have to get the approval of the Weinstein Bros.
"Meeting with Malek" is pretty far off from anything even remotely resembling solid news, but I like it anyway.
Especially the part that says "Since the franchise will likely no longer be following ZH2".

Although if they were off the project originally because they didn't want to do a found-footage film what chance do they have now, unless Todd has recanted and is willing to try and write a film in that style?
I'm hoping the producers involved have seen the folly of a found footage film and have decided to go back to basics.

[Cody]

From Farmer's comments since his "fired" tweet, it sounds like the "other slasher" was more seriously considering found footage, while Halloween is currently wide open to ideas, found footage and otherwise.

[Jus-X]

The only "found footage " I would like to see in a Halloween film is seeing Michael interact with his parents and sister, and maybe some non- Zombie tampered tapes of Michael and Dr. Loomis interviews from the first six years of Michaels incarceration.

[nottidelterrore]

If they continued with Ron's stories, I wouldn't mind some found footage of Myers digging around in dumpsters, collecting cans, washing peoples' windows with spit-covered newspapers, and asking people for spare change.

[Rick]

Wasn't there some garbage can action in part 2? The deleted scenes?

[SlasherFreak]

If they continued with Ron's stories, I wouldn't mind some found footage of Myers digging around in dumpsters, collecting cans, washing peoples' windows with spit-covered newspapers, and asking people for spare change.

Zombies shit might have worked as fount footage shit. a security camera finding a long beared ginger looking for food in the dumpster.

It could have been classic.

[nottidelterrore]

Zombies shit might have worked as fount footage shit. a security camera finding a long beared ginger looking for food in the dumpster.

It could have been classic.

"Will skullfuck for food."

[William Bludworth]

Well I can't wait for part 3. I hope its decent...

[The Dream Master]

Todd says: (http://twitter.com/#!/todd_farmer/status/115841047573168128)

Halloween 3 take prepped and ready to go. So odd. Feels like we've already been through this process. Must just be Deja Vu.

[Rick]

I still have faith that if they get the job Farmer and Lussier will do the series justice.
They intended to take Myers back to more Carpenter style, so now that it probably isn't following Zombie's movies that'll give them more freedom to do so.
Having said that I don't expect them to try and recreate Carpenter's original, but they always wanted to take Myers back to his origins and that is definitely a good thing.

[Darth Reaper]

If it's true that they're not going to continue Rob Zombie's series than my hopes for this go up a bit. Lussier and Farmer can make this a stand-alone film and I'll still check it out. Just let the Zombie series end.

[Rich]

So T&F were fired, and now they are back in the project or at least talking to the producer. I really hope those guys get to do the next Halloween film. I absolutely loved what they did for My Bloody Valentine and I realy hope they are allowed to do the same for Halloween.

[Voorheeszilla]

I'd like to see their take on the Halloween mythology, but I'd also like to see Rob Zombie come back to direct a third film. I guess I'd be equally fine with either, as long as the film turns out to be as good as possible, & I know L&F or Zombie could definitely make good on that.

[Jus-X]

No more Zombie. But it's good to see you again Zilla.

[SlasherFreak]

They pretty much guaranteed a ticket sale from me by not following the Zombieween poop parties.

[nottidelterrore]

They pretty much guaranteed a ticket sale from me by not following the Zombieween poop parties.

Same here. I'll definitely go see it in theaters now. For sure!

[Cody]

Malek Akkad recently called in for an 11 minute interview with Rabbit in Red Radio (http://michael-myers.net/exclusive-halloween-3-will-not-be-found-footage/) (starting at about 22:30 of that episode).

He confirmed that H3 is still set for release on October 26, 2012. The main H3 talk:

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Farmer on the 25th (a few days after the Akkad interview):

2 years ago today, Lussier and I handed in our first and only draft of H3D. Interesting considering today we hand in a brand new take. :)

He also said that there's been no talk of 3D yet this time.

[The Dream Master]

This might actually be the most intriguing horror movie next year (well, this and TCM 3D), if only because it's going to show us where we are with franchises post-remake. I've long thought that we're basically going to see these characters having random, one-off entries (Bond-style) from here on out, so it'll be interesting if that's the case.

(Yes, I know, TCM 3D "follows the original." We'll see.)

[Jus-X]

"There was talk of... 'found footage', that was another franchise, it wasn't Halloween."
Ok. So what has been talked about before of found footage amongst all of us here in F13C, is that the found footage was for another horror movie, not for Halloween. Now the above quote substantiates our suspicions, Malek didn't say it was for another horror movie, he said it's for another "franchise." He may not have meant for it to come out that way, but the way I heard it is that...

"Out of all the franchises we know right now, Halloween is no the one we were talking about 'found footage.' "

So to me this means that they're talking about a 'found footage' for a horror series that we all know about and love. Should we start a thread titled "Mystery Found Footage Film?" to guess and discuss what the hell our new suspicions are? Because if it's not related to the Halloween/ Zombieween franchise, then of course this isnt the thread to discuss or guess in, am I right? Does anyone else feel that way?

[Natman]

That's from awhile ago, it wasn't a mystery, it turned out to be Friday the 13th and that's what led to that discussion in the thread for the next Friday the 13th movie.

[Jus-X]

I thought the F13 as found footage was only speculation by us. Anything mentioned in this forum and the upcoming f13 film forum has all been specualtion and this quote only substanitated that. Unless I missed a post or something in the F13 thread?

[Natman]

Yeah, there were headlines, it wouldn't make it into the thread title if it was just speculation by us on the boards.

[Jus-X]

Alright dude, I trust you. I didn't read any headlines but then again I don't always go back to the very first post and read that, unless its a new thread of course.

[Rick]

That's from awhile ago, it wasn't a mystery, it turned out to be Friday the 13th and that's what led to that discussion in the thread for the next Friday the 13th movie.
I thought the F13 as found footage was only speculation by us. Anything mentioned in this forum and the upcoming f13 film forum has all been specualtion and this quote only substanitated that. Unless I missed a post or something in the F13 thread?


O did I. Where this was confirmed that it was Friday the 13th.
From what I read when it was shot down that it was Halloween everyone assumed that it was Friday the 13th and that somehow became fact in every one's mind.

Lets not forget Todd actually tweeted that he was fired because he wouldn't do a found footage Myers flick.

Shocktilyoudrop says they "did some digging", but that is the only source that I have seen that claims it was actually Friday the 13th.
They don't say anything else or back it up.
I'm not so sure everyone isn't just taking the speculation and using it to back up their own speculation.

[Natman]

I was talking about Shock til You Drop and others, which had at least confirmed the idea had been discussed, if nothing more. At this time, there's still not an actual Friday the 13th film being anything close to greenlit, so it's not a lot to get worked up over. I said there were headlines, not that they had anything to back them up. Much of what we read about Halloween 3 was bullshit too, save for the very little we received from Farmer himself... information that is now useless as they have handed in a completely new take.

[Chex]

Some big, and funny, news:


Steve Miner Returns For HALLOWEEN 3D?

Recently it was announced that HALLOWEEN 3 is happening and it’s going to be in 3D. I still hated Rob Zombie‘s Halloween II and as of this very moment, I still won’t see the third installment even if it’s got 3D accessories added to it. Bloody Disgusting heard a peculiar rumor. Since Zombie won’t return to the franchise anymore because he wants to remake THE BLOB, the job for HALLOWEEN 3D might go to someone familiar, a blast from the past.

Steve Miner is the director Halloween:H20, as well as Friday the 13th parts II and III and for the past decade has been directing TV gigs and straight-to-DVD crapola like Major Movie Star starring Jessica Simpsons.
If they had to continue Michael Myers’ reign of terror, might as well do it with someone like Miner who’s dealt with the monster before but we don’t have to worry about HALLOWEEN 3D being an awful movie just yet because the website thinks this whole Miner thing is just a rumor and it also doubts that Dimension Films wants to even go through with this project, seeing that Halloween II only earned $17 Million in its opening weekend. Yikes! Michael Myers should be buried for good.

Source (http://www.ramascreen.com/steve-miner-returns-for-halloween-3d)


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Ok, so this time at least I went with something sorta legit.

I can already see the jokes about how Miner needs to timewarp that series and what not.

[Rick]

Lol, I thought something was strange when it mentioned The Blob remake, then I noticed the article was from 2009.
Then again maybe that article was a retcon it self!
Aside from that, if anyone could retcon Zombie's Halloweens out of existence it's Miner.
If that's case I say let him make sequels to all of Zombie's movies.

[WesReviews]

Miner? Ugh.

Hope this isn't true.

To be fair, I love Friday 2 and 3, but he's not the same man he was back in '81 and '82.

[Natman]

On the grounds that he directed what's probably become my favorite Halloween sequel, I can't say I'm not open to it.

[WesReviews]

On the grounds that he directed what's probably become my favorite Halloween sequel, I can't say I'm not open to it.

I loved H20 when I first saw it, but watching it for the first time in a number of years the other day, it just doesn't hold up. Worst Myers actor ever, worst musical score ever (Myers + generic, overscored orchestral garbage = ughhhhh), CGI mask... so much about H20 bugs me now.

Best part of the movie is the opening.

[Natman]

The CGI mask is on screen for less than a whole second. People really need to stop it with that thing.

[Rich]

I watched H20 on Blu-ray rather recently and enjoyed the hell out of it. I used to hate that film.
ADDED:
The CGI mask is on screen for less than a whole second. People really need to stop it with that thing.

Come now. We are internet fans. It is part of the job description to hate, bitch and moan about the dinkiest little things and hold things against people for the rest of their lives, and then do a complete turn around and kiss their ass after they have passed away.

[Chex]

I watched H20 on Blu-ray rather recently and enjoyed the hell out of it. I used to hate that film.
ADDED:


Come now. We are internet fans. It is part of the job description to hate, bitch and moan about the dinkiest little things and hold things against people for the rest of their lives, and then do a complete turn around and kiss their ass after they have passed away.

...Moustapha Akkad?

[WesReviews]

Come now. We are internet fans. It is part of the job description to hate, bitch and moan about the dinkiest little things and hold things against people for the rest of their lives, and then do a complete turn around and kiss their ass after they have passed away.

The CGI mask is on screen for less than a whole second. People really need to stop it with that thing.

Just my opinions. You guys have yours, which I respect.

[nottidelterrore]

Steve Miner > Rob Zombie.

[WesReviews]

Steve Miner > Rob Zombie.

Very true. I'd even take Uwe Boll over Ron Zombie.

I'd like to see Mark Lester take a crack at a Halloween flick, too.

[nottidelterrore]

Vernon Wells as the Chainmail-clad Shape.

[WesReviews]

Vernon Wells as the Chainmail-clad Shape.

He did wield a mean knife in Commando.

[nottidelterrore]

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b25/extwig/Halloween.jpg

[The Dream Master]

Dudes, the Steve Miner "news" is like 2 years old. There's absolutely nothing going on with Halloween 3 right now. Dead in the water.

Moustapha Akkad?

Exactly. Very few people liked this guy ten to fifteen years ago because he was a "cocksmut" ruining the Halloween franchise. Now people boycott a pretty good (and cheap!) Blu-ray release because Universal used an old print that didn't have his name before the title. lololol, fanboys

[WesReviews]

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b25/extwig/Halloween.jpg

:lmao::lmao::lmao:

Commando jokes will NEVER get old. Ever.

[Chex]

Dudes, the Steve Miner "news" is like 2 years old. There's absolutely nothing going on with Halloween 3 right now. Dead in the water.

What? Are you saying I would post old news just for the laughs of who it pertained to? Just remember, whatever your answer may be, Miner will retcon it into something else.

Exactly. Very few people liked this guy ten to fifteen years ago because he was a "cocksmut" ruining the Halloween franchise. Now people boycott a pretty good (and cheap!) Blu-ray release because Universal used an old print that didn't have his name before the title. lololol, fanboys
Pretty much what I was thinking of. He was described in the past as using a "spiked dildo of death" to "rape and fuck the series" into a terrible direction. Now, it's all different although maybe it's because (at least for me it is) because information is now more known about what his ideas and moves were.

I wouldn't boycott the BD though although that was stupid on Universal's part.
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Oh, and I'd take Zombie over Miner although that's not saying too much.

[nottidelterrore]

I didn't boycott the Halloween II Blu-ray because I thought it was a pretty good release. Deleted scenes plus an alternate ending plus Terror in the Aisles? Yes please.

Fans bitching about the Halloween II Blu-ray special features should pick up Halloween: 25 Years of Terror if they want interviews and behind the scenes info about Halloween II

[Cody]

Very few people liked this guy ten to fifteen years ago because he was a "cocksmut" ruining the Halloween franchise.

How dare you? It was Cocksnot.

[The Dream Master]

It was somewhat casually announced (albeit unofficially) that this won't be coming out this year. STYD says (http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/165311-halloween-the-complete-authorized-history-is-in-the-works):

As for Halloween 3D, Dimension Films had pegged it for release this year, however, that doesn't appear to be the case any longer.

But even that could be dubious considering how Dimension operates. Could be a long, long time before we see this.

[nottidelterrore]

Yeah I didn't think we'd get it this year either. Dead in the water for now, it looks like.

And I thought Zombie revived the series with his amazing new "visions!" I thought we'd get tons and tons of sequels, renewed interest in the series, and new fans! What gives!? That's what I thought. Haha.

[The Dark Vampire]

It was somewhat casually announced (albeit unofficially) that this won't be coming out this year. STYD says (http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/165311-halloween-the-complete-authorized-history-is-in-the-works):



But even that could be dubious considering how Dimension operates. Could be a long, long time before we see this.

I think it will be so long when they do get around to it they will just reboot again and as this guy used to say

http://i546.photobucket.com/albums/hh424/Grazuntor/Funny/ddp_awesomeface.jpg



That's not a bad thing that's a good thing

[Ron]

Fans bitching about the Halloween II Blu-ray special features should pick up Halloween: 25 Years of Terror if they want interviews and behind the scenes info about Halloween II

Exactamundo, notti. People have been shitting on a pretty stellar release.

[Jus-X]

Via one of Todd Farmer's tweets...

Of the Buhzillion unproduced scripts I've written, #1 "It didn't get made" regret is H3D. Sex-on-a-cracker, I loved that script!

The way he typed it out leads me to believe that it isnt going to happen.

[Ron]

His script? No. Another one? You bet your ass.

[SlasherFreak]

more and more chances of this being a standalone...i am loving this!

[Rick]

I hope Todd will talk about his unused script in the same way he talked about his ideas for follow ups to Jason X.
I wasn't a fan of Jason X, but I always like hearing what Todd has to say when it comes to what he wanted to do.

Also, I agree with SlasherFreak. Better chance of it being stand alone!
Although I liked that Todd and Lussier intended to take Myers back to a more Carpenter-style Shape, I just hope that whomever gets the job of bringing the next Halloween movie to the big screen decides to stay far away from Zombie's version of the character and style.

[Sean [The Wildcard]]

From Facebook:

Todd Farmer: Not doing the screenplay from '09. Still talking to them about the project.

(Someone asks if it's still up for an Oct. 2012 release)

Todd Farmer: It is indeed. Never a dull moment in this nutty town. :)

[Jus-X]

Good to know it's still in the works. Just looks like it's the old script that isn't going in to play. I liked how he descirbed that script anyway.

[The Dark Vampire]

I doubt it will be out ready for October this year if it were they should at least have a script ready and some cast signed

[Jus-X]

Yeah I'm not expecting to see it anytime this year... I want a decent movie, doesn't need to be great but also doesn't need to be rushed.

[Rick]

Being rushed won't necessarily make it bad, taking a long time doesn't guarantee quality either.
They need a solid script and a solid team, but I agree it's unlikely that we'll see this by Halloween if they don't even have a script at this point.

[Sean [The Wildcard]]

When asked about giving any details in regards to what his original screenplay entailed:

Todd Farmer: I will eventually. Have been holding off to see what happens. I'm sickeningly glass-half-full in that part of me thinks the moment I post details they'd come back saying they decided to use the script or elements within.

[WesReviews]

They should bring Rudd's character back from part 6.

[Sean [The Wildcard]]

They should bring Rudd's character back from part 6.

Yes...and the funny thing is, he would probably be all for it. :)

[nottidelterrore]

I'd be down for seeing The Rudd return as Tommy Doyle.

[Sean [The Wildcard]]

The Rudd is actually one of the very few people who actually looks back on his Halloween experience as a positive one. To this day, he is still a little bummed out that he has yet to be invited to any of the conventions or things of the sort, and he takes great pride in being in part of the films legacy.

So, I am sure if they were to ever approach him to be involved in anything Halloween related, he would be all for it in any capacity.

[Jus-X]

The Rudd shouldn't have to wait for invitation... The Rudd should just go to the conventions knowing he would not be turned away. No one turns away The Rudd.

[nottidelterrore]

;488939']The Rudd is actually one of the very few people who actually looks back on his Halloween experience as a positive one. To this day, he is still a little bummed out that he has yet to be invited to any of the conventions or things of the sort, and he takes great pride in being in part of the films legacy.

So, I am sure if they were to ever approach him to be involved in anything Halloween related, he would be all for it in any capacity.

And that right there makes me like and respect The Rudd even more!

:sniffle:

[Rich]

I wish they would get going on this film already. I mean, Christ! It's a Halloween film. It isn't like it needs to be written like Citizen Kane or something.

[Rick]

As fans we love these movies, but the current trend is found footage movies.
To be relevant to current audiences I'm sure they want to try and find a way to combine what's popular with the Halloween franchise (any franchise) and that's not easy to do.
Without it the studio has to wonder how well a regular slasher film will do.
Despite Friday the 13th reboot making a butt-load of cash for it's opening weekend the top 3 horror villans from the 80's haven't been well received in their most recent outings.
I'd love a new movie in all of the franchises, but the studios don't think like the rest of us.

[Rich]

I definitely DO NOT want any Halloween film to be a found footage film.

[Rick]

Neither do I, but that's what the average audience is responding to at the moment.
I'd rather they wait if they are contemplating that.

[Darth Reaper]

Just because people are responding to found footage films doesn't mean that they won't respond to anything else. It doesn't have to be "found footage Halloween" or nothing. All they have to do is make a good HALLOWEEN film, any kind of good HALLOWEEN film, market it properly, and people will check it out.

[Rick]

Didn't say they were only responding to found footage films, but that's the most popular trend out there. Obviously it's not an all or nothing situation.
You also have to take into account that the top 3 horror icons from the 80s weren't received very well either in their last ventures.
That's gotta make them think of ways to try and up their potential box office by figuring if they can merge it with the most popular trend at the moment and if they can't, they have to have some sort of good idea to make a good film.
Given the last hand-full or more of Halloween films, making a good one is easier said then done.

[WesReviews]

Halloween already tried a "found footage" type thing. Wasn't exactly a success.

But the redhead had nice knockers.

[The Dream Master]

I think they're all a bit of damaged goods (probably a harsh term, but stick with me) at this point since they've used up their remake/reboot card. Attaching that gimmick to them at least drew interest, now there's sort of nowhere to go except to make normal movies, so I wouldn't be surprised to see them tagging gimmicks to them again. Interestingly enough, I think Freddy would be in the best shape if they were to make a moderately budgeted sequel with Englund back--I think people would at least respond to that as a sort of "event" (not that I think the movie would do HUGE numbers or anything, but it'd certainly do better than a sequel to the remake).

That said, there's no reason you can't have moderately successful Halloween and Friday the 13th movies. Keep the budgets modest, find a good date to release them, make a tidy little profit. These studios need to realize that these franchises aren't going to be HOME RUNS every time out--just aim to make some money back on them (easier said than done, I'm sure--there's a reason I'm not working in Hollywood, I guess).

Halloween already tried a "found footage" type thing. Wasn't exactly a success.

I know you're probably speaking more to the quality (and I'm right there with you on that--it's not a very good movie), but financially speaking, H:R did exactly what I'm getting at: it made a pretty healthy $30 million on like a $13 million budget, which isn't exactly a bomb. And I still wonder what it could have done if it were actually released in October.

[Deathscythe]

I remember thinking H:R wasn't that bad. Then again, I can usually find some enjoyment in all the sequels.

[Rich]

Turning 13 mil. into 30 definitelty is not a bomb. They doubled their money, I agree that a stand along Elm Street with Englund back probably could make a little more then a Haile sequel. Though I do support Jackie's film. I think it was smart and I like his performance. I also enjoyed Halloween Resurrection. That wasn't a found footage movie, really. That was more of a live internet thing. I think Halloween 3D just needs a decent script with great 3D special effects and a nice body count with great suspense and Carpenter like music.

[Fran Fine]

Halloween already tried a "found footage" type thing. Wasn't exactly a success.

It wasn't necessary that in H:R, we were just looking at things from a camera point-of-view. I still think the original opening intro of the Myers family barbecuing in the backyard should have been featured at the start of the movie.

[Rick]

H8 had lots of problems, the portrayal of Myers wasn't one of them at least.
The first 10 minutes of the movie having absolutely nothing to do with the rest of the movie was one of them.
Busta Rhymes being a giant ham was another.

[Fran Fine]

The first 10 minutes of the movie having absolutely nothing to do with the rest of the movie was one of them.

I don't see why this is a problem. That was the main purpose of the movie after killing off Laurie seeing Josh Hartnett didn't want to return as John. There was however scenes filmed that bridged the intro to the rest of the movie that were removed from the final cut after reshoots. It was just Michael returning home after killing Laurie where he steals the Firebird car and parks it in front of the house.

Busta Rhymes being a giant ham was another.

I didn't like him at all. I wish he wasn't in the movie if he was going to put off such an exaggerated performance.

[Rick]

The first 10 minutes had absolutely nothing to do with the rest of the movie though, it didn't even warrant a mention later on.
If it was removed and the movie started with Sara it wouldn't have had any effect on the flick as a whole.
They might as well have started off with Myers doing his laundry or getting a slurpee. As far as being part of the movie, it would have had the same over all effect, pointless to the final product.

I know that Jamie Leigh Curtis wanted it that way and she was contracted to appear in the movie, but given the importance of the event to the Halloween mythology (regardless of what continuity you prefer) it deserved more then 10 minutes of a movie it never ends up being connected to.
And even if the scene with him stealing the car and going home was left in, again that doesn't really change that it is ultimately ignored by the movie it appears in.
Three movies over 20 years deal with Michael specifically pursuing her to kill her. Continuity was re-written, essentially eliminating 3 movies and creating 2 separate continuities so this idea could be the central theme and when it finally happens it is discarded by the movie immediately after it happens.

[Jus-X]

I'm glad the scene where Myers returns home in the Firebird was cut. Michael used the keychain remote to set the car alarm... wtf?

[Rich]

Michael couldn't be having his ride jacked!

[Jus-X]

When I saw the deleted scene I was happy to know it was deleted.

Also I didn't mind the jump from Laurie's demise to Haddonfield. The way I see it is that Michael returned to Haddonfield to do one of two things,

1) hang up his knife because his first intended victim was finally dead, or
2) he wanted to search out Haddonfield to see if Laurie left any family behind...

either way when he came home he found intruders. If you think about it Michael was actually in the right in this movie. If I had intruders in my home I'd be in the right to defend my home.

:lol: So in HR, Michael was actually the victim!

[Darth Reaper]

1) hang up his knife because his first intended victim was finally dead, or
2) he wanted to search out Haddonfield to see if Laurie left any family behind...-Jus-X

Or, he was going home to think about what to do next. If his next move was to track down John, Michael would need to take some time to think about how to go about finding him. If he decides to let John go for awhile, Michael will have to think about what to do until the time is right to go after him.

[Natman]

The whole point of H:R was to do away with the family aspect and get back to the style and feel of the original film, where you weren't sure why Michael was after people. Which would have been respectable, if not for the fact that it was followed by "also, kids love rap music and the internet. So it's about that too. Mostly that."

[Fran Fine]

I'm glad the scene where Myers returns home in the Firebird was cut. Michael used the keychain remote to set the car alarm... wtf?

I don't see what's wrong with that. I can admit the scene where he steals it being a bit awkward especially when the rap music in the car is playing.

Or, he was going home to think about what to do next. If his next move was to track down John, Michael would need to take some time to think about how to go about finding him. If he decides to let John go for awhile, Michael will have to think about what to do until the time is right to go after him.

Well for Michael to go after John, John would have had to come after Michael. With the death of Laurie that should have given John enough reason to come after Michael with his first stop being Haddonfield of course.

The whole point of H:R was to do away with the family aspect and get back to the style and feel of the original film, where you weren't sure why Michael was after people. Which would have been respectable, if not for the fact that it was followed by "also, kids love rap music and the internet. So it's about that too. Mostly that."

We did get a throwback to the unconscious mind/darkness inside oneself theory from Halloween II that Professor Mixter teaches to his students where we meet Sara Moyer.

[Jus-X]

Well for Michael to go after John, John would have had to come after Michael. With the death of Laurie that should have given John enough reason to come after Michael with his first stop being Haddonfield of course.


I hope you're reading my story... it's all I'm going to say about this post. I think you'll enjoy it.

[The Dream Master]

To the surprise of no one, this has been bumped (http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/166077-halloween-3d-officially-bumped-from-2012?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter):

'Tis true, boys and girls. If you thought Dimension Films was really going to have Halloween 3D in theaters October 26th, as the company stated last year, you have another thing coming.

The 3D Michael Myers outing - as we suspected a few weeks ago - has been pushed back. The film has adopted the dreaded "release date to be determined" status.

At one time, Dimension's Bob Weinstein was working with Patrick Lussier and Todd Farmer to bring Halloween 3D to fruition. The duo behind Drive Angry 3D penned a script, but it was ultimately put on the back burner.

Insiders tell us Halloween 3D is a priority at the company and they're still fielding pitches.

This year is a strange one for Dimension. As this article states, it presently has no official 2012 releases (Piranha 3DD still doesn't have a date), but the brothers Weinstein are in development on a number of projects.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

This project just makes me laugh.

[nottidelterrore]

This project just makes me laugh.

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[MaDMaNMaRz]

http://www.cultureblues.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/tourn-matrix-ice-cream.jpg

CHENNY!!!!!

[Rich]

I can't believe they would put Michael Myers on the back burner for a movie about friggen fish. Okay fans I think it's time to sharpen those axes and pitchforks.