So How Did He Do?

[Jus-X]

Okay, so the majority of us thought Jackie would do great in the role, a small portion of us said he wouldn't be. (See this thread (http://www.f13community.com/board/showthread.php?t=5072) for previous poll.)

Now that the majority of us have seen it and have discussed what we thought, many of us probably would have wanted to change their votes. So this is your chance...

If you thought Jackie would have been perfect for the remake and would like to take that back, now's your chance.

If you thought he would've sucked and impressed you, this is your chance to speak up.

Place your votes and discuss.

[The Dark Vampire]

I thought he would be great but he sucked however it was the scripts fault with a good script I still feel he could be great

[Jus-X]

I thought he would be great but he sucked however it was the scripts fault with a good script I still feel he could be great

I paid attention to what he brought to the table, not how he was written. I thought his movements and tone (most of the time) was very good. Aside from poorly written lines, I think he nailed it.

[The Dark Vampire]

I didn't really like anything about his Freddy his voice the way he delivered the lines he moved and everything but I still feel he knew the movie sucked so didn't even try and just gave a half assed performance

[Jus-X]

I didn't really like anything about his Freddy his voice the way he delivered the lines he moved and everything but I still feel he knew the movie sucked so didn't even try and just gave a half assed performance

Yeah I just don't see that. The voice... yeah at times it was annoying... kind of... "Bale-man-esque" quality to it. I also didn' like him saying "fuck" so much. Any more "fuck"'s in the movie it would've been brought to us by Tarantino.:X

[The Dream Master]

I think what put me off was a combination of the delivery and the lines. Some of Freddy's lines were just too long for the delivery, which made it sound drawn out and bored at times. When he was just saying shorter phrases, it was okay. I guess that all goes back to the writing.

[i am SAW]

his appearance was awful. i don't care what look they were "going for", he looked awful. he's suppose to be the new horror icon for the next generation? :X the flashbacks of him when he was alive were even worse. he looked scarier normal than he did in Freddy make-up.

his voice was awful. not even his real voice, computerized bullshit.

the glove was nothing, it was just there. then again they can't do much with the glove when the person it's attached to is as pathetic as JEH was.

the best death scenes were the ones that Freddy wasn't even in (guy cutting his own throat, girl flying around the room).

even if this wasn't a remake and this was the first Freddy i ever seen, i'd still be saying "that guy looked stupid as fuck and was a pathetic horror villain".

[Voorheeszilla]

I really liked his performance. DM touched on it a bit, so all I'll say is I wanted the writing to have been a little stronger, but overall, I think JEH delivered a good performance, & I'd be glad to have him back in sequels.

[Dead Cell]

I thought he would do great, and I was happily pleased. Yeah, the movie was crap and some of his dialogue was crap, but I still thought he put in a good turn as Freddy.

[DouglasJ]

To be honest, I thought "Well... no one should play this role except Englund. But if anyone else is gonna do it... I suppose he's the guy for the job."

Saw the movie, was utterly bored by his Freddy.

[The Tall Man]

Saw the movie, was utterly bored by his Freddy.
:duh: I totally read that as "Saw the movie, was utterly boned by his Freddy."

T.M., Esq.

[Bill 1981]

**edited**

[Rich]

I thought he would do well and he did. I went into the movie with the Elm Street Parts 1 and 2 mindset from the get go, and I was not disappointed.

[Hypnocil]

Meh, he did okay. He was kind of in a lose-lose situation. His parts as the dream-killer were fine, but it just seems like he's copying Englund. While I suppose that's not a bad thing, it just didn't excite me, because I know if Englund had been in the role, he would have come up with better, newer ideas.

Essentially this Freddy seemed like a rehash, and that doesn't impress me. I think Derek Mears did a fantastic job of capturing the essense of Jason, yet moving him forward. Haley essentially rehashed Freddy but set the stove on "low-flame".

[Voorheeszilla]

Didn't seem like he was copying Englund to me, but it did seem like they focused on giving him too many of Englund's one-liners, & not enough of his own.

[NW77]

He's no Englund, but I thought he did a fine job. Better than getting Billy Bob Thorton for the role, no doubt!! Can you imagine him saying this as Freddy? :p


"I reckon I got reason to kill somebody! Mmm."

[DouglasJ]

:duh: I totally read that as "Saw the movie, was utterly boned by his Freddy."

T.M., Esq.

I have pubes. He wouldn't be interested.

[Voorheeszilla]

How do you know that? Maybe Freddy likes pubes?

[The Tall Man]

He's saying he's too old for Not-Freddy because he's hit puberty. Are you really just now reading that post?

T.M., Esq.

[sCabbOy]

I will be a minority and say I figured he could do well, and thought he did well for what he was doing. I tried to not compare him to Robert, try and look at it as a new character that I never heard of. I thought it was okay.

[Scarecrow]

None of the choices really reflect my thoughts. I thought he could be interesting and I think as an actor he performed as BEST HE COULD considering the very weak material, and even weaker directing.


- Scarecrow

[Westin]

None of the choices really reflect my thoughts. I thought he could be interesting and I think as an actor he performed as BEST HE COULD considering the very weak material, and even weaker directing.


- Scarecrow

My thoughts, exactly.

Now, to clarify my mixed feelings towards the remake:

Watching anything related to A nightmare on elm street, be it a remake, a sequel, or even an episode of freddy's nightmares brings extraordinary joy to my life. I hold a very special connection with these characters. For this reason, I will continue supporting the franchise and I will watch (and support) as many movies they decide to make. Clearly, as any fan, I would prefer watching movies that bring new ideas to the table, and the remake did not do this for me. I, however, think that Haley is a good actor, and think he has the required potential to deliver a good performance if the material he is given is worthy of him as an actor.

[Matt326]

He was alright i liked him

[Ron]

He sucked. Bad.

[Utellme]

I dont get to pick in this one cause my option is not up there.

[Jus-X]

I dont get to pick in this one cause my option is not up there.

Well what is it then U?

Welcome back by the way.

[Utellme]

Well what is it then U?

Welcome back by the way.

Anything that equals sleep ,boredom,watching spit dry,grass grass grow.

And thanks its good to be back from a little internet vacation.

[Just Jeans]

Considering the material he was given to work with -- ie: almost none -- I thought he did a good job. He's not Robert Englund, no one could really ever fill Englund's boots, but this really wasn't Englund's Freddy. Haley made it his own, and for the most part I think it works.

Robert is better at it, of course, but the character was his in the first place so that only stands to reason.

[The Dark Vampire]

I don't think even Englund could of made that Freddy work with the script and everything else it would still of sucked after seeing I was happy that he didn't get the part

[Jus-X]

I don't think even Englund could of made that Freddy work with the script and everything else it would still of sucked after seeing I was happy that he didn't get the part

Dems some fighten words!

[The Tall Man]

Fighten words... or truthy words?

Englund would have been fun... but the script was still shit from the get-go.

T.M., Esq.

[Jus-X]

Yeah but Englund has pulled awesomeness out of his ass in any role he's played. For example for the teacher in Urban Legend, poorly written lines and a pseudo character in the film. Englund made the character believable and awesome. I'm sure no matter how bad the lines and backstory in 2010, Englund would've kicked ass, even in the ending when Freddy makes himself look human again before being pulled out by Nancy.
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And he probably wouldn't have sounded like Batman when he said "Look at me!!!" The line would've been given with ultimate Freddy-esque delivery.

[The Tall Man]

I totally don't remember Not-Freddy changing back to Jackie like that...

(not that I'm questioning it, mind you)

Frankly, though, I don't remember Englund's presence much at all in "Urban Legends" other than a really cool shot where he was apparently hiding the whole time some student was rifling about his office? It was my favorite shot in the movie.

T.M., Esq.

[Oxley]

I think Haley was pretty much the only positive thing the remake had (despite a very small amount of decent scenes.) However, he was very limited with the horrid script and terrible direction. I'd love to see him try the role again, but with better people working the film behind the scenes.

[Jus-X]

I totally don't remember Not-Freddy changing back to Jackie like that...

(not that I'm questioning it, mind you)


It was an extended ending. I know you'll hate it:

DRiLDneWUqs
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Lol, just watching this scene again, Freddy has a Batman Voorhees moment. "Look at me! Look what you DID TO ME!"

lolz

[Voorheeszilla]

I don't think even Englund could of made that Freddy work with the script and everything else it would still of sucked after seeing I was happy that he didn't get the part

Considering how inferior Freddy's Dead is to the other NOES films, & the fact that with a shitty director in the chair Englund still made the character work, I think he could've done the same with the remake.

And I pretty much agree with Oxley. Let Jackie get back into the role & actually work with talented people this time around so his talents aren't squandered.

[NancyThompsonOfElmSt]

I thought Jackie was going to be ok...and he was...ok.

I felt like he didn't understand Krueger fully. His movements were stiff, his voice was monotone, and his face barely ever changed. He has a voice and face for a reason...it's important to utilize those aspects. But, he did ok. I was entertained. One of the better parts of the film.

Robert is untouchable.

[Dead Cell]

It was an extended ending. I know you'll hate it:

DRiLDneWUqs
ADDED:
Lol, just watching this scene again, Freddy has a Batman Voorhees moment. "Look at me! Look what you DID TO ME!"

lolz
The moment I saw Dark Knight, I just knew the PD guys were going to run in there and rewrite the script to try and make Freddy a Joker mimic.

[Deathscythe]

Didn't like it, but I mainly fault that to the lame script he had to put up with.

[God of Thunder]

Saw it today OnDemand.

Eh, it was an alright movie I guess... I'm more pissed off that Nightmare was remade than anything (I mean, that essentially KILLS the earlier movies, if you think about it).

Honestly, dude just didn't have the voice. Nobody has the voice except Robert. This Freddy didn't sound meanacing, didn't sound humorous, didn't really sound inhuman.... sounds more calm than anything.

'Comic Freddy' aside, let's look at the 'serious' Freddy in the original: "I'm gonna split you in two." Listen to how Robert says that. Not really trying for laughs, just sounds like a fiend. Nothing like that with this Freddy.

Still, liked him better than I did the rest of the cast. The 'Hollywood teens' of my generation are a throughly enraging bunch.

[Rich]

I'm more pissed off that Nightmare was remade than anything

I think it was bound to happen.

that essentially KILLS the earlier movies

No it doesn't. My box set is perfectly fine. :) Plus they are releasing them on Blu-Ray now so if anything, it gave the series new life.

dude just didn't have the voice. Nobody has the voice except Robert

I'm sure people said the same thing when Christopher Lee played Dracula for the first time. "Man, he's no Bela Lugosi." They probably said the same thing about Lon Chaney Jr. and John Caradine. :X

[The Tall Man]

Ugh. Again with the goddamned Dracula comparisons.

And Lon Chaney Jr wasn't a very good Dracula. From what I've uncovered and read, people didn't really badmouth Lee when "Horror of Dracula" came out.

T.M., Esq.

[Deathscythe]

I'm sure people said the same thing when Christopher Lee played Dracula for the first time. "Man, he's no Bela Lugosi." They probably said the same thing about Lon Chaney Jr. and John Caradine. :X

I actually prefer Max Schreck over Bela Lugosi as Dracula. I also like Gary Oldman in the role, I just didn't like the Dracula film that Oldman starred in.

Um, back on topic, didn't care for Jackie as Freddy or the film. Oh well, the original still exists, and that is good enough for me.

[Nancy Thompson]

I though he would do awful and I was right!

Sorry hated the remake he just didn't work for me as Freddy

[Culp]

I have to say, saw this in theatres when it came out and have no interest in seeing it again. It's like they missed the mark with all the characters. This casting director should be blacklisted, or at least go work for Rob Zombie for the next Halloween film he plans to massacre.

Freddy was a fail. Nancy was a fail. Whoever the other people were I can't even recall so clearly they were a fail too.

[Scarecrow]

Haley himself was fine. He did what he could with the material. Thing is, his Freddy's bad because the dialogue, the directing, script and make-up are all awful. Haley does better than the dross around deserves, to be honest.


- Scarecrow

[Jus-X]

I agree with Scarecrow on the subject.