Justice League (tabled)

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MAD MAX AND THE JUSTICE LEAGUE?
08.01.07
By Devin Faraci
Contributing sources: Latino Review, AICN
Latino Review is reporting that they’re hearing that George Miller, the man behind Mad Max, Babe and the huge hit Happy Feet, is being tapped to direct the Justice League movie.

All of this makes a lot of sense. Moriarty over at Aint It Cool ran a news item this weekend saying that Warner Bros execs were looking closely at the Justice League script, which had been done lickety-split. Miller just made WB a bunch of money with his CG penguin film, and they’re feeling pretty high on him. And the buzz going around is that the Man of Steel movie won’t happen but that the next Superman feature will essentially be this.

Will it be called Superman and the Justice League? Reports earlier this month has Kevin Spacey coming back as Lex Luthor in a Superman sequel… which this could possibly be considered. This would be a wise move for WB, as they get to claim they’re doing a Superman sequel while launching a new team franchise and possibly setting up a half dozen new single character franchises in one fell swoop.

What would this Justice League movie be? According to Moriarty’s scooper:

I know that Superman, Batman, The Flash, Aquaman, and Jon Stewart all appear in the script.

Maxwell Lord, OMAC, and someone named Talia (Al Ghul?) all appear. One of the OMACs is referred to as "Beta", so the story may involve the start of the OMAC project.

If Miller is being hired, expect information to start exploding soon.

[Just Jeans]

And the buzz going around is that the Man of Steel movie won’t happen but that the next Superman feature will essentially be this.

That's nonsense. They were just talking about The Man of Steel at Comic Con this past weekend. The interview they did with the DC guy on G4 made specific mention of both The Dark Knight and The Man of Steel. They said The Man of Steel was slated for a 2009 release date.

As for Justice League, if the Huntress doesn't appear (the Helena Bertinelli version) then I'm out. My favorite DC character keeps getting the shaft, and I am not pleased. :misery:

[The Taff]

My favorite DC character keeps getting the shaft, and I am not pleased. :misery:


I know that pain, James. I've been waiting for a Deadpool movie forever.

Someone just cast Ryan Reynolds in the role already!

[Just Jeans]

Didn't Ryan say he wasn't interested due to the full body makeup he would have to undergo each day? I seem to recall that he'd backed out of the project in the early stages for that reason.

[The Taff]

Last I heard he just put it on the back burner, but is still expressing interest.

[CanadianFonzie]

I always thought it would have been interesting to see a whole movie dedicated to the whole Justice League, and now 30 years later they're finally doing so, I hope this is good because I've always been a fan of the comics and the old SuperFriends tv show

[Just Jeans]

The whole Justice League... minus the Huntress, apparently.

*shuffles off to find a dead horse and beat it*

[Rich]

I agree with Jett over at BatmanonFilm.com. I think Batman should be left in his own films. This movie is going to suck and make Batman look so bad. You just wait and see.

[Darth Sinister]

The Huntress is not A-List material when it comes to the JLA. The A list consists of Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter, Aquaman, Hawkman, the Atom and Green Arrow. The Huntress is way the hell down there. You're more likely to see her in a "Birds Of Prey" film instead of a JLA film.

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You're more likely to see her in a "Birds Of Prey" film instead of a JLA film.


and we all know how great that tv show was:side:

[Just Jeans]

The Huntress is not A-List material when it comes to the JLA.

I couldn't care less about the majority of the A-listers. 90% of the A-List material is overrated. Superman, Batman and the Green Arrow are about the only ones that live up to the hype. :meh:

My point is, she's never going to get her own film -- and I don't see a Birds of Prey film happening anytime soon -- so the least they could do is dump her into the train wreck that is bound to be a Justice League film.

Elektra and Catwoman have pretty much killed the chances of seeing another antihero comic heroine adaptation.

and we all know how great that tv show was

That wasn't my Huntress anyway, it was some weird mishmash of the original Huntress (she was Bruce Wayne's daughter) and new elements that didn't work at all.

[Sketch Sanchez]

As long as we get GL and FLash, I'm cool.

No Huntress tho, blech to her!








Just messin with ya Jeans. By the by, did ya ever get your hands on any BOP trades? I remember you saying your comic shop sucks, I could send you one of mine if you want, I dont mind honestly.

[Just Jeans]

I'm tempted to take you up on that, Tyrone. I've still not come across any BOP trades. I've only got the Batman/Huntress trade, which I really enjoyed (I may dig it out and read it again) but I've not got anything more current.

My comic shop doesn't even sell single issues of BOP. They don't carry it at all. :misery:

[Darth Sinister]

Even with the A-listers, there's still plenty of others that would appear ahead of her. Booster Gold, Blue Beetle, Plastice Man, Elongated Man, Power Girl, Captian Marvel, Fire, Ice, Zauriel, Black Canary, Steel, Nightwing, Mr. Miracle, Captain Atom and Metamorpho.

[Geddy Peart]

The problem I see as a whole with a JLA movie is that there will be too many characters on screen at once. I'm worried it'll clog up the plot and hurt the film.

[The Dark Vampire]

The problem I see as a whole with a JLA movie is that there will be too many characters on screen at once. I'm worried it'll clog up the plot and hurt the film.

That will be bad enough on it’s own with out other added problems with people just not knowing who the hell half of them are that's why I think all the characters should have at least one solo movie out first so the fans are at least familiar with them so they don’t have to waste time explaining who they are and what powers they’ve got ect.

[Just Jeans]

Even with the A-listers, there's still plenty of others that would appear ahead of her.

Not to me. I'm a very slim comic book reader. As much as I like Superman, Batman and Green Arrow, I rarely read their comics. But I do read comics that focus on The Huntress, because she's my favorite.

Point is, I don't care about the others you listed -- half of them I'm not even familiar with, their names ring no bells -- and it sucks that because the one I like happens to be less mainstream, I'm likely never going to see her realized in live-action outside that abysmal Birds of Prey TV series.

The problem I see as a whole with a JLA movie is that there will be too many characters on screen at once. I'm worried it'll clog up the plot and hurt the film.

Hence my referring to it as a train wreck.

The only way a JLA film will work is if 2/3 of the cast take a backseat and act as window dressing, while the plot revolves around the rest of the cast. In that case, there's no way to please everyone. Someone's favorite super hero will either be left out completely, or will get sidelined for the big boys to rule the plot.

[Spade]

The problem I see as a whole with a JLA movie is that there will be too many characters on screen at once. I'm worried it'll clog up the plot and hurt the film.

I completely agree with you.

I just can't see how this movie can be good.

Take care and God bless.

Spade

[The Dream Master]

Whenever I think about a JLA flick, I know that it could potentially turn into another Mortal Kombat Annihilation, where new characters were popping in to say hello every few seconds. On the other hand, there's a small part of me who'd like to see someone give this a chance and get it right. I think a movie with a heavy focus on the obvious trinity (Superman, Batman, and WW) and a few well-established secondary characters (Flash, GL, and Green Arrow) could work, but it'd have to be a pretty long movie with plenty of space to breathe.

[Just Jeans]

With Flash and Wonder Woman films in various stages of preproduction, I can't see them debuting the characters in a JLA movie. To show them to an audience before doing an origin story just feels off somehow.

[The Dream Master]

Yeah, I think ideally, you'd want to have most of the characters debut in their own films first. I forgot to mention that in my first post in this thread. Unforutnately, I think that'd mean that a JLA movie would be way off in the distant future. Otherwise, you'd have new heroes popping up without being given justice in terms of their origin.

[Sketch Sanchez]

PM me an address Jeans and I'll see about sending it to you.

[Darth Sinister]

The problem with the Flash and Wonder Woman is no one can settle on how to do them. Joel Silver has pretty much given up and decided to see what happens with JLA. And there's been practically zero news about Flash since Goyer left.

Besides, a JLA film would be more like X-Men.

[Alex DeLarge]

That's nonsense. They were just talking about The Man of Steel at Comic Con this past weekend. The interview they did with the DC guy on G4 made specific mention of both The Dark Knight and The Man of Steel. They said The Man of Steel was slated for a 2009 release date.

As for Justice League, if the Huntress doesn't appear (the Helena Bertinelli version) then I'm out. My favorite DC character keeps getting the shaft, and I am not pleased. :misery:

To be fair, Huntress, as cool of a character as she is, is not a huge League member. It's not like she's a founding member. She was around during the Morrison League but I'd much prefer Huntress in a Birds of Prey film or maybe a Justice League sequel.
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Mr. Miracle

I feel about him the way Jeans feels about Huntress though. Mr. Miracle is so cool and unique (an escape artist superhero; that is so cool). I also love his "Wash/Zoe" relationship with Big Barda. Maybe a Fourth World movie... THAT would rock.

[Just Jeans]

To be fair, Huntress, as cool of a character as she is, is not a huge League member.

I know. :misery: But damn it, I want me some live-action Huntress. Under normal circumstances I wouldn't dream of asking that they put her in a JLA film, but given the poor reception that met Elektra and Catwoman, I just don't see them doing a Huntress or Birds of Prey film. Not anytime soon.

[Alex DeLarge]

I know. :misery: But damn it, I want me some live-action Huntress. Under normal circumstances I wouldn't dream of asking that they put her in a JLA film, but given the poor reception that met Elektra and Catwoman, I just don't see them doing a Huntress or Birds of Prey film. Not anytime soon.

But both of them... sucked. I think in a few years, there may be a Birds of Prey film.

[Just Jeans]

And I think that level of suck has probably put studios off trying to make female-driven antihero flicks. Never mind the fact that both films were failed by writing and direction -- studios aren't logical like that. They'll assume the movie going public isn't interested in these kinds of characters.

Perhaps it's an irrational fear, but Helena has got the deck stacked against her already in that she only has a small loyal fan base. She's not mainstream. And I think the recent failure of Elektra and Catwoman stacks the deck even higher.

[Alex DeLarge]

True, but the fact of the matter is that Huntress's involvement or non-involvement wouldn't affect my liking of JLA. My favorite, Mr. Miracle, played a MUCH bigger role in the JL's history and I won't care if he appears, or Batman or Superman or anyone. I'm going to judge the film on what it is, not the roster (especially since JLA's is always so rapidly changing and morphing).

[Just Jeans]

I don't follow any of the core members of the JLA regularly, so the idea of the film sans Huntress doesn't move me. The involvement of Batman and Superman would go a long way, but if they're not played by Bale and Routh, my interest will fall through the floor.

It's the same basic reason I've not watched either of the Fantastic Four films. I never followed the characters, and while I think the second film looks good, I'm just not interested enough to watch the first one.

I would watch a stand-alone Green Arrow film, though. I dig the Green Arrow, even though I don't follow him regularly.

[Alex DeLarge]

They're making one. It's garndering some amount of controversy in fandom as it's not a "typical good guy vs. bad guy" story (it involves Green Arrow wrongly going to jail and having to team up with obsecure or second string DCU villains) but I think some people can be damned picky. IMO it's a nice break from the typical superhero mold and welcome it with full arms.

[Just Jeans]

How come we've never had a thread about this Green Arrow film? If there was one, I must have somehow missed it, or I'm just forgetting it. :confused:

[Spade]

They're making one. It's garndering some amount of controversy in fandom as it's not a "typical good guy vs. bad guy" story (it involves Green Arrow wrongly going to jail and having to team up with obsecure or second string DCU villains) but I think some people can be damned picky. IMO it's a nice break from the typical superhero mold and welcome it with full arms.

I've heard that too. I couldn't understand why people were complaining about it. I think it's nice to do something different every once in a while.

[Darth Sinister]

If a JLA film does well enough, it could possibly lead to a "Birds Of Prey" film. The thing a film like that needs is a strong script and director.

[Alex DeLarge]

How come we've never had a thread about this Green Arrow film? If there was one, I must have somehow missed it, or I'm just forgetting it. :confused:

We did at the old forum. It's in the VERY early stages of production (being done by David Goyer and another guy) with the title being "Super Max."

[Just Jeans]

So wait, the film isn't even called Green Arrow? No wonder I missed the thread. :duh:

[Rich]

Reguarding the female super hero movies, they wouldn't suck so bad if they stuck to the stories from the comics instead of making up sh*t story lines.

If they made a movie based on the first three Catwoman appearences in the Batman comics that would have been an awesome movie, but the stupid crap they made about a lady who worked for Victoria Secret or something like that getting murdered and coming back to life and she wasn't even Selena Kyle.

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didn't know if I should start a whole new thread or not but here's the trailer for Justice League: New Frontier

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-Hb_d5Qnts

[Just Jeans]

Given that the Huntress is summarily ignored by the majority of DC fandom, I find it interesting that I keep seeing her drawn on the front line:

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/6/30/1227484/Pictures/CountdownDC.jpg

Wish DC would make up their minds about whether or not she's front line material. :duh:

[Alex DeLarge]

Given that the Huntress is summarily ignored by the majority of DC fandom, I find it interesting that I keep seeing her drawn on the front line:

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/6/30/1227484/Pictures/CountdownDC.jpg

Wish DC would make up their minds about whether or not she's front line material. :duh:

That's most of their major heroes though. She IS a major hero, just not a major JLA member. Alan Scott also features on the front lines in that pick and he's NEVER been in the JLA!

[Rich]

I like the Huntress character. I would rather her be in the JL movie just to that Batman does not have to be since I think that would be horrible. I want them to keep him in his own movie series. I think a Huntress movie on her own would be awesome if they follow her story as is in the comics and not make up bs like they did to Catwoman.

[Darth Sinister]

That teaser image for "Countdown" showcases the entire DCU hero membership, to date. The Huntress, however, is a spin-off character of Batman. She's only appeared in the Bat books, for short time in the JLA and currently in "Birds Of Prey". The Birds have recently gotten out of being involved in Bat crossovers.

The BS in the live action series was based on the comics from the 1970's and early 80's. Back when Helena was Helena Wayne, the daughter of the Earth-2 Batman and Catwoman. The cat powers were only added to play up the metahuman angle. It was only after the Crisis and the original Helena was killed, was the Post Crisis Huntress introduced. Helena Bertenelli (sp). It was only in "Infinite Crisis" that it was revealed that if the Multiverse hadn't been destroyed, she and Kyle Rayner would've been from Earth-8. As of "52" #52, we learn that a new version of Earth-2 exists where Helena Wayne still exists.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g92/darth-sinister/Avatars/Avatars-2/Avatars-3/Avatars-4/11.jpg


The "Catwoman" film was only a victim to the fact that they Michelle Peiffier (sp) didn't want to come back and they had dumbasses involved. Though most of the bullshit was also in "Batman Returns".

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Reynolds on Flash in Justice League Movie
Source: MTV August 20, 2007


MTV caught up with Ryan Reynolds, who has been mentioned often as a frontrunner for The Flash. In the quotes, he leaves the door open that he might be involved with the Justice League of America movie instead of a standalone flick:

I don't really know how much I'm allowed to talk about that stuff. But I'm sure they'll figure out something. It's no secret that they have a JLA script and it's a project that's in development – the contents of which, who knows. We'll see."

[TheShowstoppa]

So, uh... are they going to go ahead with this instead of a new Superman movie? I would rather have them both, especially if Routh and Bale are going to be in them.

[The Dream Master]

Nah, Singer's still got a Superman sequel in the works. It's coming out in '09. No one really knows what's going on with Justice League at this point.

[DRE]

Nah, Singer's still got a Superman sequel in the works. It's coming out in '09. No one really knows what's going on with Justice League at this point.

I'm still wishing that Warners decides to pull an "Incredible Hulk" and ignore "Returns" so they can give a new team and new actors the chance to do things right this time. Alan Horn, are you listening?!

[The Dream Master]

I rather liked Superman Returns myself. I just don't like how they've painted themselves into a corner with the super-kid angle. Supes needs to take him to the FOS and de-power his little ass now, so that it won't be much of an issue for the sequel .

[DRE]

I liked the movie as well, but felt it came up far too short in far too many areas. Casting of the two leads being the main one, and young Jason's point and purpose being number two. Those weak aspects very nearly destroy the film for me.

[Darth Sinister]

I rather liked Superman Returns myself. I just don't like how they've painted themselves into a corner with the super-kid angle. Supes needs to take him to the FOS and de-power his little ass now, so that it won't be much of an issue for the sequel .

That's not painting in a corner. He's got Chris Kent in the comics that he's adopted. So having a son doesn't change matters either.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g92/darth-sinister/Avatars/Avatars-2/Avatars-3/Avatars-4/SM_ANN_2007_CVR_SOLICIT.jpg

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from chud.com

BALE: DON'T TREAD ON MY BATMAN
08.21.07
By Devin Faraci
Contributing sources: Live blogging!
Christian Bale is much funnier and more personable face to face than he is in his films, but I wish he was a little more forthcoming. When asked at the 3:10 To Yuma junket if he had been asked to play Batman in the Justice League movie, he just shook his head*. I can’t tell you if he was saying he wasn’t going to be in the film or if he was sick of hearing about it – a little of both, I’d say.

Bale then said something that echoes what many fans have been saying (and I’m forced to paraphrase, since I’m still at the roundtables and can’t listen to the tape): he wishes they would wait to make a Justice League film until after he and Christopher Nolan finished their own trilogy.

So that’s the latest word – it’s quite possible that my information that Bale had a crossover in his contract is either wrong or he’s just bucking against it, but at any rate, he’s not going to be wildly happy should a Justice League movie hit theater before Batman Threepeats.

*Russell Crowe, who was at the roundtable with him, said that Bale was offered Green Lantern but didn’t want any roles without a cape.

[The Dream Master]

That's not painting in a corner. He's got Chris Kent in the comics that he's adopted. So having a son doesn't change matters either.



Ignoring the fact that all that happened after Superman Returns, I'll just say that this sort of storyline works better in comics than it does on film. I don't care to see a super-kid in the sequel . Don't get me wrong, I loved Superman Returns. Loved it. But I wouldn't be at all opposed to the idea of having Jason de-powered.

[The Dark Vampire]

Couldn't that kill him?

Maybe the reason he is so ill all the time is the fact he has 2 forms of DNA in him and it's kryptonian keeping him alive

[The Dream Master]

Perhaps. I'm sure they could come up with some explaination though.

[Erik]

The movie has been out for over a year. I think you can lay off the spoiler tags.

[The Dream Master]

Since we're posting this in the recent and upcoming films, I spoiler-tag things just to be safe. There's a good chance that there's someone out there who hasn't seen it. It's just a personal preference of mine.

[Darth Sinister]

See there's one problem with depowering Jason. All the Sunstones are on New Krypton and thus Clark cannot activate the molocue (sp) chamber. Besides, Jason's powers will wind up developing slowly.

[The Dream Master]

True, DS. I must say I'm pretty interested to see how they handle that situation. I like that Singer has compared the sequel to Wrath of Kahn; I think that, now that he has his first Superman film out of the way, he can dispense with the "love letter to Donner's original" aspect and make it his own. I loved all the homages to the original film, but I'm very interested to see where Singer takes it now.

[DRE]

There's no need to de-power Jason, just de-canonize him and all will be perfect in the world. I just didn't like emo-Superboy and Kate Blandsworth. Spacey was the best thing about the film, IMO.

It doesn't matter if they go Kahn with the next one, because they still retain the major problems I had with the last one. I'd rather have seen Bryan Singer tackle that big Star Trek film he has in his head.

[Darth Sinister]

Frome the Superman Homepage.

On the back of yesterday's reports regarding possible cast members for the up-coming Justice League movie, MovieHole.net has posted a report claiming that Brandon Routh and Christian Bale would not be reprising their roles as Superman and Batman in the proposed Justice League movie, even though Superman and Batman would be in the film.

A casting director for the movie will be onboard next week and it's then that they'll be going after their tighted strongmen.
Director George Miller ("Mad Max") has some ideas who he'd like to cast as Batman and Superman but naturally, they mightn't be the same faces the WB want. Either way, doesn't sound like Christian Bale or Brandon Routh will be involved in the film. I assume that's a financial thing.


Further more, IESB.net reports that Superman, Batman, the Flash, Aquaman, Wonder Woman and the Green Lantern are all said to be in the movie, with early meetings having already taken place for certain key roles with announcements expected very soon.
Routh and Bale not being in this movie does NOT mean that they won't star in future stand-alone "Superman" or "Batman" film sequels, as both have contracts to play their respective characters in future films. MovieHole.net reinforces this in their updated report...


Yes, its true that Brandon Routh and Christian Bale won't be starring as Superman and Batman, respectively, in the "Justice League" movie - but they will both still be starring in the stand-alone "Superman" and "Batman" sequels. So don't fret fans, there will only be a new Bats and Supes for the team-up movie.

Stay tuned for more updates on the Justice League movie.

[Erik]

That's fine with me, since Batman and Superman are going to be presented in a completely different light than they are in their solo movies. We're going to be getting the all powerful Superman who is a great leader and the super genius/master martial artist Batman. It's not connected to the other two franchises, so it works. I just can't wait to see who they cast in all of the roles.

[DRE]

Well, I'd consider that great news. Bale belongs in Nolan's universe and Routh, well, if I have nothing good to say I shall say nothing.

I just hope they actually get a Super MAN for the role this time.

[Darth Sinister]

Who says that JLA isn't connected to the solo films?

[DRE]

It's fine if it is connected, but Bale wants to maintain the realism he and Nolan fought to create and I agree with them. As for being connected to Superman Returns, there's nothing wrong with that either, I loved what Singer did stylistically as well as his choice to keep it in the Donner spirit. It's his Superboy I have a problem with, and thankfully JL won't have that problem.

[Erik]

Justice League to be a CGI/Motion Capture Film!?
Source: IESB.net
August 22, 2007


One of the most talked-about topics online these days is Warner Bros.' Justice League of America adaptation, which Happy Feet director George Miller is reportedly attached to.

Reports have said that the superhero team-up movie would include Batman, Superman, The Flash, Aquaman, Wonder Woman and the Green Lantern, that casting would start next week, and that Christian Bale (Batman Begins, The Dark Knight) and Brandon Routh (Superman, Superman: Man of Steel) would not be involved.

It didn't quite make sense how Warner Bros. would be able to pull it off, but perhaps now we know how they can. IESB.net says that the movie might be a CGI/performance capture project, much like The Polar Express, and the upcoming Beowulf and Avatar. Here's a bit of the scoop the site received:

However, and take this with a grain of salt, Imageworks are apparently in the running to provide services on the JLA film, competing with R&H and possibly WETA (the latter being unconfirmed).

But the real interesting thing about this is that the contract is for an all-cgi "photo-real" motion capture movie, much like the upcoming Beowulf.

If the reports hold up, expect Justice League of America to go into production early 2008.

http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=6235

If you've seen the trailer for Beowulf then you already know how cool this could be.

[Nick Michalak]

How'd George Miller go from Mad Max to dancing CGI penguins?

-NJM

[Erik]

You have to remember, before Happy Feet, he did Babe: Pig in the City. He's just a very diverse director. The fact that he's been pretty much successful no matter what genre he's in just goes to show his diversity and talent.

[NW77]

I really hope they don't use Batman & Superman if they think of getting someone else than Bale and Routh. Getting someone else for those 2 if JL get made next year will create confusion. Not to mention Batman & Superman franchise will still continue. I really don't think it's a good idea. I rather wait until WB is done with the franchises before they decide to use the 2. I think JL is going to get delayed for awhile or not get made. There likely will be problem making it with how big this film could be. Time will tell thought.

[The Dream Master]

I think CGI/Motion capturing is actually the way to go, as this type of movie deserves to relish in its source material. They could totally make it look as if the DC universe has jumped from the pages of the comics if they pull it off.

[Erik]

I think CGI/Motion capturing is actually the way to go, as this type of movie deserves to relish in its source material. They could totally make it look as if the DC universe has jumped from the pages of the comics if they pull it off.

Exactly. And with the same kid of technology behind Polar Express and Beowulf, this will be visually spectacular. And maybe sometime down the line, once both Nolan and Singer are done with their respective franchises, they can do a live action movie with the real actors.

[NW77]

Exactly. And with the same kid of technology behind Polar Express and Beowulf, this will be visually spectacular. And maybe sometime down the line, once both Nolan and Singer are done with their respective franchises, they can do a live action movie with the real actors.


I'm all for that. I think I heard Bale would like to work with Routh someday. I think the 2 meeting each others at the 2006 MTV Movie Awards where Routh gave Bale the award for Best Hero must be where Bale like & Routh & want to work with him.

[Geddy Peart]

I'm glad it's going to be CGI. If they were to do a real-action JL movie now, I think it would confuse general audiences since Bale and Routhe are still making their respective films.

[The Dream Master]

If anything, we can always assume that the events in any JLA movie would take place after the Superman and Batman films we're getting now.

[NW77]

If anything, we can always assume that the events in any JLA movie would take place after the Superman and Batman films we're getting now.

Yep. Seeing as Batman will start becoming more experienced in The Dark Knight, that I think he would need to even more experienced in TDK before he join the Justice League.

[Geddy Peart]

If anything, we can always assume that the events in any JLA movie would take place after the Superman and Batman films we're getting now.

Ahh, but is the average moviegoer going to think that?

I've had explain the stupidest stuff to some people about films just because they didn't "get it".

[The Dream Master]

Well, obviously that's a hurdle. I mean, as the RZ Halloween thread shows, there are people out there who think it's a new Jason flick; or, even worse, believe that it's a new movie that's ripping of Scream.

[Darth Sinister]

It's fine if it is connected, but Bale wants to maintain the realism he and Nolan fought to create and I agree with them. As for being connected to Superman Returns, there's nothing wrong with that either, I loved what Singer did stylistically as well as his choice to keep it in the Donner spirit. It's his Superboy I have a problem with, and thankfully JL won't have that problem.

You know, the character of Clark Kent became Superman when he was 19. And was publically known as Superman since he was 24.

[DRE]

You know, the character of Clark Kent became Superman when he was 19. And was publically known as Superman since he was 24.

But was still a manly man. I'm sorry, this is not the Smallville universe where it's fine for Clark to take on Superman at this stage, it's the universe set forth by the Donner film where a man was Superman.

Routh was just too much like a model for my tastes, and as much as he tried, he just couldn't come off as a Superman to me. I wish the guy well in his career, I just would prefer it not to be in Superman.

I have a similar problem with Daniel Craig as Bond, but many others love him and Routh in these roles and that's fine. Can't win them all.

[Just Jeans]

You won with Bale as Batman surely, Dre?

Anyhoo, I like the idea of this film going for the Advent Children/The Spirits Within approach. I'm a big fan of all CGI films that shoot for photorealism. I wonder if any of the character models will be based on actors, or if there will be a character designer creating all new "humans".

[Alex DeLarge]

You won with Bale as Batman surely, Dre?

Anyhoo, I like the idea of this film going for the Advent Children/The Spirits Within approach. I'm a big fan of all CGI films that shoot for photorealism. I wonder if any of the character models will be based on actors, or if there will be a character designer creating all new "humans".

I'd personally to have all new designs so I can 100% see "Superman" not an actor as Superman. Yes, I realize I do "see" Superman in live action films, but since CGI has the option to not even deal with that, why not go full out and have the designers design Superman not an already made face?

[DRE]

Bale is God, Jeans. Of course that was a win!

[The Dream Master]

After seeing Batman Begins, I never want to imagine a life where we don't have Bale and Nolan involved in a Batman film. At least we don't have to worry about that until after 2011. :eek:

[Erik]

Eh, I still think Keaton was much more convincing in the role. He didn't have to scream and growl and grunt to be intimidating. Not that Bale was bad. He was quite good, actually. Keaton was better though.

[The Dream Master]

I always thought Keaton was a decent Batman, but he utterly fails for me when it comes to being Bruce Wayne. I feel Bale was the first actor that pulled off both roles effectively.

[DRE]

Keaton will always be number one to me, but I think Bale definitely put his mark on the role. Kilmer wasn't that bad, but not that good either. And good ol' Clooney was just being good ol' Clooney...not Batman.

[The Dream Master]

Kilmer was a decent Bruce Wayne, but a pretty terrible Batman. Clooney, well...the less said about his performance, the better (although it didn't help that the film was absolutely terrible).

[Spade]

I always thought Keaton was a decent Batman, but he utterly fails for me when it comes to being Bruce Wayne. I feel Bale was the first actor that pulled off both roles effectively.

I completely agree.

[Geddy Peart]

Keaton for me was always just a guy in a suit. Bale really captured that other-worldly persona Batman's supposed to have. He's supposed to come as more than just a man, a being if you will. And a scary one at that.

[Darth Sinister]

But was still a manly man. I'm sorry, this is not the Smallville universe where it's fine for Clark to take on Superman at this stage, it's the universe set forth by the Donner film where a man was Superman.

At 24, Brandon Routh was several years into being a man. Singer went with a younger actor so that he can age into the role.

[DRE]

I knew he was 24, and why Singer went younger. But Reeve, at or around that same age still had more of a manly man air about him than Routh did. Bryan just wanted a Abercrombie & Fitch Superman and that's what he got, but at least it isn't Nic Cage so I can deal with him. He just better step it up in the next film, and stop standing around looking pretty, using only three expressions.

[hack slash]

Singer wanted a Christopher Reeve clone and that's what he got, he remade Donner's movie with a Reeve clone

[DRE]

You see Chris Reeve in Routh? Well, IMO, that's an insult to Mr. Reeve, but if you see it then more power to you. I personally see or hear no resemblance of Christopher Reeve in Superman Returns. But Spacey does a hell of a Hackman though.

[hack slash]

You see Chris Reeve in Routh? Well, IMO, that's an insult to Mr. Reeve, but if you see it then more power to you. I personally see or hear no resemblance of Christopher Reeve in Superman Returns. But Spacey does a hell of a Hackman though.

I think Routh looks and sounds alot like Reeve(no insult intended) he's NOWHERE near as good as Reeve and I actually like Spacey better than Hackman

[DRE]

I like Spacey better too, but I think Hackman (When he wasn't acting like a buffoon) did a good job. His delivery of "No...by causing the death of innocent people" was great.

Routh does his best, and many are pleased with him so I guess it matters not what I think. But there are better actors who look and sound more like Chris Reeve than Routh, and they were up for the role as well. Henry Cavill (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Cavill) was actually very close to getting Superman, Batman and James Bond, and I think he is the closest to Reeve than any of the others and is a pretty good actor (as seen on The Tudors.)

[Just Jeans]

You see Chris Reeve in Routh? Well, IMO, that's an insult to Mr. Reeve...

Funny you should feel that way. Chris's wife met with Routh. They got on really well. She later commented on how much Mr. Routh reminded her of Mr. Reeve, in both physical appearance and character.

I know you don't like Routh in the role very much, DRE -- it took me a couple of viewings to warm to him -- but the guy really does look very similar to Chris Reeve. Even Chris's wife saw the similarities.

[The Dream Master]

The scene where he steps into the airplane looks like it could have been ripped right out of the original Superman film. Routh looks a lot like Reeve there.

[Just Jeans]

I think the scene with Routh in the airplane is a bit awkward, but I do see the similarities to Reeve there. I wish Singer would have let Routh go a little more in his own direction with the role rather than making him try and channel Chris Reeve, but for what Routh was saddled with, I think he did a competent job. I'm hoping he'll have more freedom to flex his muscle as an actor in The Man of Steel.

[DRE]

I did not know that Dana met Brandon, that's cool. But Chris himself passed the torch to Tom Welling, so I guess there is no right and wrong about it.

[Just Jeans]

The problem with Tom is that he never wanted the torch. He's not interested in Superman in the slightest, so while I appreciate that Chris approved of Welling in the role of Clark Kent, Welling invalidated himself from being a successor to the Superman mythos because he refuses to play Superman.

I really dig him as Clark Kent, and I would have liked to see him play Superman, but that just doesn't fly Welling's flag. There are rumors that Gough and Miller want to create a Justice League spin-off from Smallville after Smallville ends, and I'd bet top dollar that they have to re-cast Superman in the series. I don't think there's any way Welling will carry over from one show to the next.

[Darth Sinister]

There are a couple of rumors up. First, there was a rumor that the whole thing will be completely CGI motion capture along the lines of "Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within", "The Incredibles" and "Happy Feet". Now it's that there will be live action and the CGI motion capture for certain scenes.

Second, word has it that the film will be it's own continuity and that the other solo ventures will not be affected continuity wise. Third, ISEB reports that alledgedly Tom Welling has been approached to play Superman. Take this last one with a grain of salt.

[Just Jeans]

I don't doubt they approached Welling -- and if it is all CGI, I could see him providing the voice of Superman -- but if there are live-action elements to the film, I doubt whether he'd take it. Unless his opinion on wearing the suit has changed somewhat, in which case I'm all for it. I dig Welling.
ADDED:
SyFy Portal talks Welling (http://www.syfyportal.com/news424082.html)

To some fans, the Justice League is the pinnacle of the DC Comics franchise where the greatest comic-book legends unite in order to deliver justice wherever it is needed. But with the JLA making its way to the big screen, fans have been desperate to know if the project will have any connection to the pre-existing Batman and Superman franchises which are already hits at the box office.

It looks like there will be a few nods to those universes, but according to IESB, both Christian Bale and Brandon Routh are out of the running for the project and producers are looking towards a slightly younger team to take on the roles of Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent. And for the role of the corn-fed Kansas hero, the next big-screen Superman may be more familiar than fans expect.

“Smallville’s” own Tom Welling is said to be donning a cape and tights to finally bring his take on Superman to the big screen. And joining him will be some flashy motion capture effects for the One-Man Army Corps cyborgs.

“Yes that’s right, Tom Welling, TV’s Clark Kent, has been approached to take up the Superman role in the Justice League film,” the site said. “This has been a hope of ‘Smallville’ fans for years and all indications are that WB has finally heard the call.”

The Web site already has contacted Welling’s agent in order to confirm the information but were immediately transferring to PR department of theatrical releases who refused to comment which has the site convinced of his involvement. Al Gough, executive producer for “Smallville” has flatly denied the story.

If the reports are true, it may mean some juggling of his current schedule for “Smallville” when the movie goes into production in April. But the site has said that so far it looks as though the shows production team is willing to work around any schedule Welling requires.

[CanadianFonzie]

I'd find it funny if they got John Wesley Shipp to reprise the role as The Flash, they started playing that show on a cable station again and I saw the first episode today, man the memories, but John was a good choice for the Flash, unfortunetally he's much too old for the part now

[eXile]

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[Darth Sinister]

Yeah, I was going to post that. It's on the Superman Hompeage.

I'd find it funny if they got John Wesley Shipp to reprise the role as The Flash, they started playing that show on a cable station again and I saw the first episode today, man the memories, but John was a good choice for the Flash, unfortunetally he's much too old for the part now.

Only if he's doing Jay Garrick.

[Just Jeans]

Yeah, I was going to post that. It's on the Superman Hompeage.

I've already posted that, on the previous page. :shifty:

[CanadianFonzie]

wait...who's Jay Garrick again?

[Erik]

wait...who's Jay Garrick again?

The first Flash.

[Darth Sinister]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d6/Garrick_ross.jpg

Jay Garrick.

Anyway, ISEB still claims that they have proof that Welling is going to do this. And that they're just waiting to show it.

[CanadianFonzie]

oh I remember him, just never knew he had a real name, lol

[Darth Sinister]

It's Jason "Jay" Garrick.

[The Dark Vampire]

Don't tell Wolverinefan that as we all know The Flash is not Jay

[hack slash]

LIVE ACTION
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CASTING ALL HEROES
09.03.07
By Devin Faraci
Contributing sources: Obsessed With Film
It looks like the Justice League movie is actually moving ahead in a real way – according to Obsessed With Film, Warner Bros has hired casting agents in Vancouver, Toronto and New York to put together honest to God humans to appear in an honest to God movie.

This is just the tip of what could be major news, since Obsessed With Film didn’t get the names or descriptions of the characters being cast, or the pages that prospective actors will have to read for the casting agents. That’s where the gold is – especially if we see that WB is looking for a new Superman (this would torpedo the Tom Welling rumors that I personally hate).

If casting is happening now, I have to imagine that WB will make their first official announcements - like confirming George Miller as the director – in the days to come.

[Nick Michalak]

If this happens to be live action, and they intend to start production as soon as its been said, I can't see Christian Bale doing it. He's just about finishing one Batman film, and I don't think he's gonna jump on another director's bandwagon so quickly. He is commited to Nolan's trilogy, and wants to finish that first before doing any other Batman related films. Though, you can't have the Justice League without Batman, Superman, or Wonder Woman. So, if this happens to be live action, they'll have to re-cast Batman as well, and man is that gonna spark fan controversy. Two guys taking on Batman at the same time in two different film franchises.

-NJM

[NW77]

If this happens to be live action, and they intend to start production as soon as its been said, I can't see Christian Bale doing it. He's just about finishing one Batman film, and I don't think he's gonna jump on another director's bandwagon so quickly. He is commited to Nolan's trilogy, and wants to finish that first before doing any other Batman related films. Though, you can't have the Justice League without Batman, Superman, or Wonder Woman. So, if this happens to be live action, they'll have to re-cast Batman as well, and man is that gonna spark fan controversy. Two guys taking on Batman at the same time in two different film franchises.

-NJM

I agree. Bale didn't want to do it now. I think Bale wanted to do it after he finish with the 3rd Bat film, thought I ain't sure. Honestly, I wish WB wait & let both Bale & Routh finish their franchises film and then let them be in JL. I think JL is going to be a big mess. Not to mention WB is rushing it. Rushing a film that should be a epic movie like JL should look will be a flop.

[The Dark Vampire]

I agree. Bale didn't want to do it now. I think Bale wanted to do it after he finish with the 3rd Bat film, thought I ain't sure. Honestly, I wish WB wait & let both Bale & Routh finish their franchises film and then let them be in JL. I think JL is going to be a big mess. Not to mention WB is rushing it. Rushing a film that should be a epic movie like JL should look will be a flop.

I agree I remember Bale saying he would be willing to do a team up movie (either Batman vs Superman or JL) after his 3 movies were done I seem to remember Routh saying something similar.

[hack slash]

Routh probably would like to do the JL movie now because he really needs a job:D

[DRE]

I pray to the high hells that we get a new Batman and definitely a new Superman (I believe I've explained why in this thread already no need to do so again.)

How cool would it be to have alternates to what we have now? It would be beautiful, especially if they cast correctly. I absolutely adore Christian Bale in the role, he is my second favorite Bat/Bruce of all time, but I don't want to see his version anywhere outside the Nolan-verse.

Please George Miller, do us fans of Superman (That aren't feeling Singer/Routh) justice by casting the right man this time around.

Now, can somebody give us an alternate Bond series so we can fix that casting problem as well?

[NW77]

Routh probably would like to do the JL movie now because he really needs a job:D

Ummm....he doing few new movies right now, so I'm sure he still have a job. :p

And again, casting Batman & Superman will confuse the hell out of the audience & it's not a smart move. That why again I'm against the recast. I thought both Bale & Routh did a fine job with their roles. Believe me, I think JL is going to suck.

[The Dream Master]

Yeah, Routh is prepping to star in a sequel to that little Superman movie that came out last year, so no job shortage there.

[DRE]

At least Chris Reeve did "Somewhere In Time" between the release of Supes I & II.

I think Routh has the potential to be a romantic film lead actor if he picked the right role. He has about three films done now and they may be hits, just because I wrote him off as a sucky Superman doesn't mean I believe the guy doesn't have a future in this biz.

[Darth Sinister]

Contrary to what you think, Routh has done work since "Returns". First, he did some voice work last season for "The Batman", playing the Everywhere Man. After that he's got two films in post production, "Life Is Hot In Cracktown" and "Lie To Me". In pre-production now is "The Informers".

Reeve did "Somewhere In Time" during the hiatus between I and II, as the two films had been shooting back to back when production on II was suspended. During the downtime, Reeve went and did that film, since he had some time in which to work it out. After finishing that film, he returned to finish II under Lester.

[El Diablo]

I can see this working without the stars of the current Batman and Superman franchises. You could see it as an alternate universe kind of thing. Plus, it would be interesting to see who would play these new roles (so long as they don't get Travolta to play Superman like Wolfgang Peterson wanted for his World's Finest movie).

[Sketch Sanchez]

As long as GL and Flash are in it and good, then fuck everybody else.

[hack slash]

now just imagine her in the outfit
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Jessica Biel in Talks for Justice League!
Source: Variety September 25, 2007


Jessica Biel is in talks to play Wonder Woman in Warner Bros.' all-star superhero film Justice League of America, reports Variety.

The potential deal marks the first piece of casting to emerge from the DC Comics-based ensemble project, which is expected to feature Superman, Batman, the Flash and Aquaman in addition to Wonder Woman.

George Miller (Happy Feet) will direct the big screen adaptation. Kieran and Michele Mulroney wrote the script.

Biel is filming the indie drama Powder Blue, which wraps in October, opposite Forest Whitaker. She will then segue to A Woman of No Importance, based on the play by Oscar Wilde. That leaves room on the actress' schedule for "Justice League," which Warner is fast-tracking as a project before any potential strikes. However, the film's likelihood hinges on the studio's ability to assemble a cast of superheroes in a small window of time.

The trade says the studio declined comment, saying that it prefers to announce an entire cast rather than piecemeal deals.

[NW77]

I hope the Biel rumor is false. Biel just isn't right for Wonder Woman, not to mention I don't think she is that good of an actress & is just a pretty face instead. Beside, another candidate has came out on auditing for Wonder Woman. Found it at Batman on Film, where other sites are saying the same thing:


"Audition took place this past week for the 'Justice League' project....

Shooting is slated to begin mid-February in Sydney, Australia and the shoot will run for approximately three to four months under the helm of the confirmed George Miller.
The production is currently based out of Seattle, and they are searching 'for the 8-9 leads for this action feature film. We are looking for Male actors 18-35 years old; Caucasian and Black. The primary focus should be to find Caucasian actors. There is 1 role for the Black Actor. We are looking for Female actors 20-32 years old; any ethnicity.'


7:39 AM TEXAS TIME: Here's the first Wonder Woman casting rumor I've heard. MOVIEHOLE.NET says that Aussie actress Victoria Hill has tested for the part of the Amazon princess. True or not, she certainly looks the part."

http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news_img/6425/6425.jpg



She does indeed look like WW. I hope she is a good actress, 'cause she would be great if she can act. Not to mention she is 5' 8" & should look taller with the boots. Perfect height for WW.

[Just Jeans]

Jessica Biel in Talks for Justice League!

My reasons to watch this film just went up by one, if indeed she gets the part. I can't imagine her as Wonder Woman, but fuck it -- I'm not getting the League members I want (no Huntress, no Green Arrow) so I may as well approach the film from a "fuck it" perspective.

Here's an article from SyFy Portal:

'Justice League' Getting Closer To The Big Screen
The "Justice League" live-action feature film is one giant step closer to becoming a reality.

According to Variety, Warner Bros. has announced that George Miller ("Happy Feet," "Mad Max") will direct the movie based on the DC Comics' superhero ensemble.

The studio, which plans to release the movie in theaters in the Summer 2009, is working fast to have the film locked down before the possible strike of Hollywood writers. The film will include Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, the Flash, Aquaman and Green Lantern.

Because some of those characters have their own films in the works, development of "Justice League" is proving to be difficult, but the studio is so sold on the script by Kieran and Michele Mulroney, it has put the next "Superman" movie and other projects on the back burner, reportedly.
Click here to find out more!

So who will play the famed DC superheroes? Christian Bale, who plays Batman in "Batman Begins" and the upcoming "Dark Knight," will not appear in "Justice League." In an August interview, Bale said that he will only play Batman for Christopher Nolan.

"We've done something very good with our Batman, and so I would not do anything that wasn't in keeping with what we were doing," Bale said. When told that "Justice League" would be directed by George Miller, Bale added: "No, that'd be a whole different world. And if it wasn't part of [our] world, then it wouldn't work."

Christopher Nolan, who directed the current "Batman" movies, would prefer that Warners delay "Justice League" until after he finishes the "Batman" movies he is working on.

Brandon Routh, who played Superman in the recent solo film "Superman Returns," does not appear to be in line for the "Justice League" film, either. While "Man of Steel," the sequel to "Superman Returns," has been put on hold presumably to allow Routh to continue the role in "Justice League," and Routh has expressed interest in working on the project, the producers seem to be looking elsewhere to fill the blue tights.

One rumor that has been fueled by a report from IESB is that Tom Welling, who plays the ascending young man of steel in "Smallville," may be donning the big red cape for the big screen spectacle. While the "Smallville" production team has either kept quiet about or denied the rumors, IESB asserts that its sources are extremely reliable.

Other casting rumors include the possibility of Ryan Reynolds playing the role of the Flash. He had previously been in line to play the Flash in the shelved David Goyer-penned movie about the red-clad speedster. While he has been campaigning to get the role, his part in the cast is not certain.

he studio originally considered making "Justice League" as an animated film, but has decided to make it a live-action, effects-driven film even with the potential casting difficulties. One unnamed source told Variety, "They're working very hard to get it to happen, but there are so many characters, it's complicated."

If Reynolds is cast as the Flash, I'll be seeing this movie regardless of my feelings toward certain character omissions (Green Arrow, The Martian Manhunter, The Huntress).

[Cody]

The plot leaks (http://movieblog.ugo.com/index.php/movieblog/more/bhc_exclusive_spoiler_details_on_the_jla_movies_st oryline/)

Here’s what I’ve been told about the JLA movie:

-- The characters of Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, The Flash and Martian Manhunter comprise the League. One name that I did not hear mentioned was that of Aquaman. Where’d the fish guy go? Good question.

-- Story elements from the screenplay have been adapted directly from DC’s JLA comic book series.

-- The man wearing the Green Lantern ring in the JLA film is John Stewart and not Hal Jordan (Earth’s first Green Lantern) or Kyle Rayner (who followed after Stewart’s run in the comic book continuity.) It should be noted that in the Justice League cartoon series John Stewart is the same character serving as Earth’s Green Lantern.

-- The Flash is the youngest member of the JLA. He has a crush on Wonder Woman.

-- Wonder Woman is portrayed as the member that acts as defacto humanitarian and face for the League. Our source told us that the best way to describe how she is written in the script is to “think of Angelina Jolie and her relations with foreign countries.”

-- Unbeknownst to the League Batman has a piece of technology that he developed called the “Redeye”, a cool piece of hardware that he can use to spy unbeknownst on the other League members. Want to know what the secret identity of Superman is? Not a problem. Want to find out what can cripple or kill each League member, their Achilles heel? It’s a snap with the Redeye. Batman files away the knowledge in case the day might ever come when he will need to use it to take down a member of the JLA that goes rogue or becomes a villain.

-- The Redeye is a fulcrum to the events that transpire in the movie. A villain—and I’m not at liberty to say which specific one or ones—will gain control of the Redeye. Instead of serving as a means of protecting the planet’s populace from the threat of a superhuman out of control, this creation of Batman’s will come back to haunt him, threaten the lives of the League and the safety of everyone on the entire planet.

-- During the course of the movie the day that Batman feared would come happens: a member of the League will, and we directly quote our source here, “go bad.”

It should also be said at this point that there is at least one major twist in the story that I’m not going to blow because I deem it an Empire spoiler. For those out there that don’t get my reference, imagine it’s 1979, the internet exists and you’re reading rumors about the new Star Wars sequel called The Empire Strikes Back. There’s some new guy called Lando, there’s a big battle on a snow planet, Luke meets up with another Jedi and Darth Vader says something to Luke near the end of the picture. Sure, those are all spoilers but if I came out and said what Vader told Luke? That’s an “Empire”.

[Just Jeans]

SyFy Portal says Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, the Flash, Aquaman and Green Lantern.

Movieblog says Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, The Flash and Martian Manhunter.

Either way, Green Arrow is still MIA. :meh:

[Spade]

I'd like to see Green Arrow in this too James. But I kind of understand why they left him out. You can add him in as long as you don't take anyone out, the rest are more important members of JLA (not better members though). Plus the fact that he is just human and they probably feel that Batman has the non-superpowered superhero thing covered.

[Biosynthnut v.2]

SyFy Portal says Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, the Flash, Aquaman and Green Lantern.

Movieblog says Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, The Flash and Martian Manhunter.

Either way, Green Arrow is still MIA. :meh:


I'd go with the Movieblog one... and even eventually add in Hawkgirl, and Green Arrow.

[Geddy Peart]

So this is live action then? I thought they were going for CGI.

Any word on who will play Bats and Big Blue?

[Just Jeans]

They considered doing it as a CGI film, but then decided to really bring out the big guns and go for a full-blown live-action film.

Some sources are still insisting on Tom Welling as Superman. I wouldn't complain if it happened, but I think it's highly unlikely. I don't think there has been any word on who might be playing Batman.

[Darth Sinister]

Ryan Gosling was tossed out by someone for Batman.

ISEB at last check, says Welling is Supes, but I doubt their facts are as accurate as they'd love to believe. Anyway, I think that based on something else I read, that there is a possibility of a twist ala TESB. I'm thinking that based on the rumors, J'onn J'onzz is the traitor to tie into the White Martian story which is supposedly being used.

[DRE]

If that is the storyline they are going with then I am pleased, it's great to shake things up like that. I'm a big JLA fan (Comic moreso than the toon but love that also) and have great faith in George Miller.

I've had my Superman Ultimate Collection since the reissue in May, and a couple nights ago I watched Superman Returns for the first time since I saw it opening weekend in June 06 and I will say that I've warmed up a bit to Brandon Routh (Especially after watching the "making of" docs, the guy did his best to honor the role so I respect him for that) but I'm still not praising him as the second coming like other fans have, Chris Reeve will always be the number one Superman for me (Keaton for Batman as well.)

With that said, I really wish either Routh or Welling gets the role in Justice League, they are the current Supermen of this generation so they may as well keep it in the family. Be smart WB!

[Darth Sinister]

Welling will say no and they should go with Routh, but since Bale is out, I think he's out too.

[Nick Michalak]

Well, if they're going to start production in January or February, it can't be Welling because he'll still be shooting this new season of Smallville. Not that I put any weight into that weak rumor.

-NJM

[DRE]

Well, they could always shift focus to Kara for some episodes to give Tom time to play Superman. I don't get why Welling would turn it down or why Gough and Millar wouldn't want him to play it, it could only benefit the series.

[Just Jeans]

Tom wouldn't be the first actor to moonlight on a film whilst working on a TV series (Michael J Fox did it when he shot Back to the Future.)

[Darth Sinister]

Well, they could always shift focus to Kara for some episodes to give Tom time to play Superman. I don't get why Welling would turn it down or why Gough and Millar wouldn't want him to play it, it could only benefit the series.

He doesn't want to wear the suit. That's why he has a clause that says no to the suit. He willing to play Clark Kent and that's why he signed on to the show, once he was told that he won't have to wear the suit. He's not interested in playing Superman. And the show will go one, maybe two seasons.

[The Dark Vampire]

I doubt they would do it for that but if they offed him a huge amout of money (I'm talking so he'd join the 15-20 million dollar per movie club) he's put the suit on.

For that amount I'd do it in fact I'd play Supergirl hell I'd walk around on my hands and knees and play Krypto

[Just Jeans]

He doesn't want to wear the suit. That's why he has a clause that says no to the suit.

Yeah, and Gough/Miller didn't want to let Clark fly. And they didn't want to do more than six seasons (seven at the top-end, and they've already contracted key cast members for series 8).

Sometimes, people change their mind. And I'm sure a hefty pay check would sway Tom's "No Tights" rule.

[Darth Sinister]

Well, Clark didn't fly. Kal-El did. I think the reason they might do eight has to do with the continued good ratings. Anyway, from the sounds of things, Miller wants his own cast. Otherwise we'd hear Routh being approached and not Welling.

[Just Jeans]

Well, Clark didn't fly. Kal-El did.

Semantics. Either way, it's Tom Welling on a matted backdrop shooting through the air faster than a speeding bullet. And rumor has it that Kara will be teaching Clark how to fly this season.

[Darth Sinister]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=37763

Biel passes on JLA.

[NW77]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=37763

Biel passes on JLA.

Thanks Jesus!!

Biel is quite cute & all, but she don't have the acting chops to pull off a role like WW. I hope maybe Victoria Hill get pick. It seem like the role would suit her based on some clips of her on YouTube beside her look. Plus, maybe she can change the tone of her accent & make it sound more Amazonian. :)

[Just Jeans]

Shame. My reasons for seeing this film just plummeted. Unless Ryan Reynolds is on-board, in which case I'm back on-board.

[hack slash]

WETA is creating the suits and visual effects for the Justice League??!!
http://www.obsessedwithfilm.com/movie-news/exclusive-wolverine-and-justice-league-updates.php
Meanwhile, over on George Miller’s Justice League, we can report that the bulk of filming will take place at Fox Studios in Sydney and will involve extensive green screen work.

As for crew members, Miller has added another Oscar winner to his team in the form of director of photography Dean Semler. Art direction comes from Hugh Bateup and Damien Drew, both veterans of The Matrix franchise and Superman Returns.

P.J. Voeten, who has worked with Miller on Happy Feet and Babe will join the production as first assistant director when he finishes work on The Mummy 3 in Canada.

Now for something that’s sure to get fanboys salivating - WETA will be creating the costumes for the Justice League heroes! They may even be handling visual effects as well, though that news isn’t confirmed yet.

It’s worth noting that films on this scale will often take on several effects houses to manage the workload, so WETA are likely to be involved in some form.

Posted by Will Reynolds in Movie News, Exclusive on Sat 13 Oct 2007



this could be very bad ass

[NW77]

WETA kick some butt. I like hearing the news on them doing JL. It should be good.

[Just Jeans]

WETA will be creating the costumes for the Justice League heroes! They may even be handling visual effects as well, though that news isn’t confirmed yet.

http://imgbolt.com/public/30588/1178709752524.jpg

[DRE]

Very cool indeed! Now bring on the cast!

And since Tip "T.I." Harris has been arrested and facing a possible prison term, he is out of the running for John Stewart/Green Lantern.

[NW77]

And since Tip "T.I." Harris has been arrested and facing a possible prison term, he is out of the running for John Stewart/Green Lantern.



Good to hear. I don't want any rapper type of actor near this kind of role. I prefer a typical good actor, not a rapper who try to be an actor. That like having Busta Rhymes playing GL. :p

[hack slash]

Who's Audtioning for the Justice League? Lots of Younger Semi known celebs including, Mary Elizabeth Winstead:shy:

The Vine: Young actors seek 'Justice'By Borys Kit

Oct 15, 2007

This weekend, Young Hollywood stepped into the superhero hall of justice to see who will get the parts in the big-budgeted Warner Bros. tentpole movie "Justice League of America."

Director George Miller flew in Saturday from his native Australia for a marathon casting session that started Sunday and continues Monday, seeing 35-40 actors test for roles in the comic book movie.

Miller is seeing about four or five actors for the parts of Superman, Wonder Woman, Batman, Flash, Aquaman, Green Lantern and the Martian Manhunter, with a few overlaps. A few nonhero parts might be testing as well.

On the roll call are Adam Brody (Fox's "The O.C."), Joseph Cross ("Running With Scissors"), D.J. Cotrona ("Windfall"), Mary Elizabeth Winstead ("Grindhouse"), Michael Angarano ("Sky High"), Teresa Palmer ("Wolf Creek"), Max Thieriot ("Jumper") and rapper Common.

The cast of NBC's "Friday Night Lights" is well-represented as well, with Minka Kelly, Adrianne Palicki and Scott Porter also among those testing for parts. No costumes are involved in the tests, which are being taped as actors read script pages.


If the names feel young, it's because Miller is looking for actors to grow into their roles over the course of several movies. Sources say Miller, known to be a methodical director, is testing not only for the roles themselves but how the actors interact with one another while keeping an eye on the look of the whole group. The director is due to present his findings to the studio midweek.

[CosmoBubba]

I think it's funny that that press release insinuates that people would recognize Teresa Palmer from Wolf Creek, when, if I remember correctly, she was a glorified extra in the party scene at the beginning of the movie.

[Nick Michalak]

Is this the Justice League of America or the Teen Titans they're trying to cast? Whatever happened to mature, adult actors playing mature, adult roles? Some 20 year old 'hip, cool' actor isn't gonna turn into the larger than life ICONS that SuperMAN, BatMAN, & Wonder WOMAN are. The only character I would allow a 20-something actor to play is Wally West as The Flash, but nobody else should be cast under the age of 30. John Stewart is a former soldier, a man with a serious military background, and should be a man who has a lot of authority. Seriously, that goes for practically anyone in the classic JLA. I want to see the JLA as true heroes, true leaders, and I want to damn well believe it! If Miller goes with this 20-something cast for everyone, I think I might just stick with the Justice League & JLU animated series.

Honestly, these superhero ensemble films always seem to turn out badly. I have, at least, a thousand gripes with how all three X-Men films were handled, and the characters used therein. Fantastic Four and its sequel were nothing but an embarassing joke. Either the casting goes to shit (Fantastic Four), or the characters are handled with such ineptitude that they barely resemble their source material (X-Men). Bryan Singer already churned out a flat, dumb, uninspiring Superman film, and I can't stomach the Spider-Man films any longer (let alone Sam Raimi). Honestly, I don't have much hope for any comic book film franchise beyond Christopher Nolan's Batman. Iron Man looks cool, but I'm not gonna get myself all hyped up for it. Point being is that most every filmmaker finds a way to ruin a potentially perfectly awesome comic-to-film adaptation. As much as I've advocated a live-action JLA film, I can already see the seeds of failure here. If you don't cast the film's superheroes just right, the entire film faulters.

-NJM

[Darth Sinister]

Interview with Gregory Noveck, a liason between DC and Warner Brothers.

VOICES FROM KRYPTON: I’ve read some of those earlier versions of the Superman script – Tim Burton as director? Nicolas Cage as Superman? What were they thinking? Even earlier today, there was the Hollywood Reporter story where they’re saying that 19 and 20 years olds are auditioning for Justice League. Does that kind of thing concern you guys at all?

GREGORY NOVECK: Don’t believe everything you read. Some of it may be true, some of it may not be. But I can tell you they’re not casting a 19-year-old as Superman. Most of the actors they’re looking at are in their late ‘20s.

http://www.voicesfromkrypton.com/2007/10/exclusive-grego.html

Besides, in the comics, half the team was in their mid 20's when they made their debuts. The others in their late 20's/early 30's. J'onn was the oldest.

[Nick Michalak]

Yeah, but the Justice League of America wasn't formed until a few years after they all made their debuts (talking in-continuity time). And considering Hal Jordan was the original Green Lantern of the JLA, John Stewart oughtta be closer to his mid-to-late 30s by the time he joined. All in all, by the time the JLA originally formed, they were well-experienced superheroes in their 30s.

-NJM

[DRE]

All I can say is pity the new Supes and Bats, because they will have the wrath of Nolan fans, Routh fans and Welling fans to suffer.

I hope they cast someone who would blow everyone out of the water, but choosing from that ilk, I highly doubt that will be the case.

Stephen Dorff could make a good Batman, but they'd rather go the "OC" route.

[Just Jeans]

All I can say is pity the new Supes and Bats, because they will have the wrath of Nolan fans, Routh fans and Welling fans to suffer.

I'm a fan of all three, and I'm perfectly happy with a new Supes and a new Bats in this film.

Life got a lot less complicated when I learned how to stop being a miserable fan boy and just be a regular ol' fan boy.

...but they'd rather go the "OC" route.

That's gossip. There's nothing substantial to back it up, as yet.

[DRE]

Sometimes people just don't want change and complications, and having a third guy in the same basic role is just that, a complicated change.

Me? I don't care. I've learned to just take it all in stride because in some way or another I know I won't like some of the directions my favorite characters and series will take, so I just roll with it.

And if the Hollywood Reporter says they tested those particular actors then that's more than just gossip.

[Just Jeans]

Sometimes people just don't want change and complications, and having a third guy in the same basic role is just that, a complicated change.

I don't see the complication. :confused: It's not exactly rocket surgery.

And if the Hollywood Reporter says they tested those particular actors then that's more than just gossip.

So does that make Gregory Noveck just a liar, then? Not that I think we should believe him out of hand, but it's obvious that he thinks that what the Hollywood Reporter is reporting is just gossip.

[Alex DeLarge]

I know it's Marvel, but Avi Arad stated Galactus would NOT be a giant cloud in the finished film of FF2...

[DRE]

I don't see the complication. :confused: It's not exactly rocket surgery.

Stick with what works. You have two guys perfectly capable of playing the role, who are in fact already playing the role, why not stay within comfortable parameters? Why chance a new guy who may do an injustice to the role and ruin the film?



So does that make Gregory Noveck just a liar, then? Not that I think we should believe him out of hand, but it's obvious that he thinks that what the Hollywood Reporter is reporting is just gossip.

Trust no one, Mr. Mulder.

Miles Millar, Avi Arad, Rob Zombie etc, have said so many things that have turned out to be the exact opposite of what they originally say, I find it hard to believe. Hollywood Reporter is not known for gossip, but I will say that most of the people on that list are in their late twenties but that really makes no difference when you're allowing freaking Mary Elizabeth Winstead to read for Wonder Woman. It shows the type of actors they are going for.

We'll see.

[Nick Michalak]

It's funny how all these filmmakers say they are looking for actors to grow into the roles over the course of a series of films, but then, the film hits, it sucks, and there's no franchise. Don't cast for the future, cast for who's right for the roles right now.

-NJM

[Just Jeans]

You have two guys perfectly capable of playing the role, who are in fact already playing the role, why not stay within comfortable parameters?

Bale isn't interested in the first place. If they're going to have to re-cast Batman regardless, I don't see the issue with re-casting Clark (and honestly, I think the notion of casting Welling as Superman -- as much as I like the idea -- is more confusing than casting someone new. It creates a splinter continuity with Welling playing two completely different incarnations of the same character.)

Question -- will they be recasting Lois Lane in this, or are we working on the principal that Lois Lane will be excluded from the film? I'm not sure how involved she is in the Justice League comic, although a friend of mine has told me that she's slept with many of the male League members. I thought he was joking, but he seemed pretty serious. I'm still not sure if he was having me on or what.

Trust no one, Mr. Mulder.

Great reference out of nowhere. I approve.

It shows the type of actors they are going for.

Yes. Young.

The idea seems to be they want a cast that can stick around for a handful of films without getting too old too fast. The same logic was used while casting Bond for the new franchise -- I hear Clive Owen was knocked out of the running because they thought he was too old and wanted someone younger (although I can't tell by looking at Daniel that he's "young". Dude looks middle-aged to me.)

I'd prefer they cast a couple of late 20's (closer to early 30s) actor to play Superman and Batman, but from a business standpoint I can understand why they'd want to cast younger (I think the guy they cast to play Reed Richards in the Fantastic 4 films is way too young-looking, but that's not nearly as offensive as his wooden acting.)

[Geddy Peart]

Honestly, I don't care how this movie turns out.

I got the onscreen Superman and Batman I wanted in Christopher Reeve and Christian Bale so I'm happy.

[hack slash]

I don't see the complication. :confused: It's not exactly rocket surgery.

Rocket Surgery Jeans???:D:lmao:

[Just Jeans]

Rocket Surgery Jeans???:D:lmao:

I lifted it from an old Ego Waffle commercial. It's always just kind of stuck with me. :D

[NW77]

Stephen Dorff could make a good Batman, but they'd rather go the "OC" route.



The problem with Dorff is his height. He has to be shorter than Keaton. Isn't Dorff like 5' 8" & Keaton around 5' 10"? I prefer the actor to be around 6' 2" or maybe taller as Batman. But Dorff isn't bad. If he was taller & is clean shaving (he always seem to never shave the 5 o'clock shadow :p) with a nice haircut, he would be pretty good. :)

[The Dream Master]

With all the camera trickery that goes on these days, I don't think it matters how tall anyone is anymore.

[The Dark Vampire]

With all the camera trickery that goes on these days, I don't think it matters how tall anyone is anymore.True it's a well known smark fact that The Great Khali is actually 4'2 ;):D

[hack slash]

True it's a well known smark fact that The Great Khali is actually 4'2 ;):D

and Rey Misterio is actually 1 foot taller than the Big Show:D:p

[Nick Michalak]

The one perfect thing about Christian Bale's physical traits in being Batman is that he is 6'2" and approximately 220 lbs - exactly the specified physical stats of Batman in DC Comics. I really don't want some someone who's too skinny or too short or too young playing Batman in this JLA film, but I really get the feeling this cast is gonna come together as weirdly as JJ Abrams' Star Trek.

-NJM

[Darth Sinister]

Yeah, but the Justice League of America wasn't formed until a few years after they all made their debuts (talking in-continuity time). And considering Hal Jordan was the original Green Lantern of the JLA, John Stewart oughtta be closer to his mid-to-late 30s by the time he joined. All in all, by the time the JLA originally formed, they were well-experienced superheroes in their 30s.

-NJM


Not true. Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash/Barry Allen, Green Lantern/Hal Jordan, Martian Manhunter and Aquaman had all just debuted publically mere months earlier, when they formed the JLA. Superman was 24, Batman was 25 and Wonder Woman was in her 20's. Hal, Barry and Arthur were older. J'onn was the oldest having been on Earth since the 50's and was alive longer than that. Pre-Crisis never established how long the Earth-1 versions were active, before they teamed up the first time. Post "Crisis On Infinite Earths" and Post "Infinite Crisis", it was during the first year following Superman's public debut.

-Superman lands an experimental shuttle in downtown Metropolis and rescues Lois Lane from a helicopter that nearly crashes.

-Batman goes after the crooked cops, the mayor and crime boss Carmine Falcone.

-Wonder Woman arrives in the US.

-Hal Jordan has been recruited to replace Abin Sur, who dies.

-Barry Allen has been doused by chemicals and decides to become the Flash.

-Superman encounters J'onn J'onzz in Colorado. Encourages him to be more active publically.

-Aquaman makes himself known on the surface.

-Each one fights their rogues gallery a few times.

-The Appelaxians arrive on Earth and begin various attacks which cause the seven heroes along with Black Canary to fight back. First they do so individually, but then they start to team together until the group defeats the Appelaxians. Afterwards in the Batcave Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman meet to discuss forming a League. Green Lantern, Flash, Aquaman, Black Canary and Martian Manhunter had already decided that they should work together. The League is formed.


Question -- will they be recasting Lois Lane in this, or are we working on the principal that Lois Lane will be excluded from the film? I'm not sure how involved she is in the Justice League comic, although a friend of mine has told me that she's slept with many of the male League members. I thought he was joking, but he seemed pretty serious. I'm still not sure if he was having me on or what.

That's a bullshit statement. Lois never slept with anyone in the League, except for Clark and that's because they're married. The supporting casts of the solo books rarely play a part, because they are just that. Supporting players in the individual books. From time to time characters like Lois Lane and Alfred Pennyworth appear, but usually it's for some story purpose. Lois and Alfred recently appeared in the JLA Wedding Special and the Green Arrow/Black Canary Wedding Special, as the writers wanted them there. Lois and Alfred will appear again, along with the other wives and girlfriends of the JLA, in a JLA Classified story. Otherwise, they seldomly appear in the JLA books and if they do, their parts are small. Often it's the JLA who will appear in a particular book.

[hack slash]

wanted them there. Lois and Alfred will appear again, along with the other wives and girlfriends of the JLA


Alfred's a girlfriend...:D:lmao::side:

sorry dude I had to do it

[The Dark Vampire]

Alfred's a girlfriend...:D:lmao::side:

sorry dude I had to do it

So what it gets lonely in the Batcave (For gods sake don't let Wolverine Fan see this)

[Darth Sinister]

Alfred's a girlfriend...:D:lmao::side:

sorry dude I had to do it

No problem.

*slams your head into the door.*

:p

[Darth Sinister]

Word now is that the casting for young actors will only apply to Wonder Woman and the Flash.

Also, more from Noveck on JLA.


VOICES FROM KRYPTON: Earlier you mentioned how strong the Justice League script was, which I’m glad to hear, because, again, the Internet is alive with people screaming that given the speed at which it’s coming together, there’s no way it can be good.

GREGORY NOVECK: No, we’re rushing it because the script came in so good. There was no mandate that we had to go and make this movie. What created the mandate was you had a strong script with all of these characters and there’s a window, so you go and do it.

VOICES FROM KRYPTON: I was just surprised because these writers seemed to come out of nowhere.

GREGORY NOVECK: To the greater populatce the Mulroneys seemed to come out of nowhere, but they were fairly accomplished within Hollywood and they were responsible for a lot of great stuff in Mr. and Mrs. Smith. What’s great about Kiernan and Michele is that they came in – Kiernan was a comic reader as a kid, but hadn’t followed it for a long time – and approached it with an understanding that the characters are characters that deserve some reverence. They are very much character writers. All of the conflict and everything else has to come from a place of character, and the action is second. The movie is action-packed, there’s a ton of stuff, but it’s not like the typical Hollywood blockbuster where it’s, like, “Oh, big action sequence. And why do we care?” I think part of the reason that so many responded so strongly to the script is because you just have these wonderful interactions between the characters. And this apart from the plot, which is strong and makes sense and tracks and people, when they see the movie, will be able to say, “Okay, I totally understand how all this can happen within this world.” I think part of the reason you go is that you want to see Superman and Batman have a conversation. And what is that conversation? You want to see how all of these men react when Wonder Woman first walks on screen. If you’re a normal, red-blooded male or even a Martian-blooded mail, what does it mean to be confronted by this goddess?

VOICES FROM KRYPTON It’s like Ursula Andress coming out of the water in Dr. No.

GREGORY NOVECK: Exactly. And the Mulroneys really understood that each one of these characters automatically changes the dynamic of the room as soon as they walk in, because they all have such different powers and back stories. They approached each one of these characters as an individual and as a unique character that influences everything else around them.

[Cody]

The rumor bouncing around, originating from DarkHorizons (http://www.darkhorizons.com/news07/071024a.php), is that Superman has been cast - Rupert Evans, the 30 year old actor who played Agent Myers in Hellboy.

If you're into spoilers, UGO (http://movieblog.ugo.com/index.php/movieblog/more/more_exclusive_story_info_about_the_justice_league _of_america_movie/) has more script details.

[Nick Michalak]

Just what we need, a short Superman. Rupert Evans stands all of 5'10". I'd bring up the fact that he's a British actor, but so is Christian Bale. Simply put, he just doesn't have the physical stature to play SUPERMAN! He's a larger than life iconic symbol of freedom, justice, and power! You think Superman would look as impressive in comics if he was four inches shorter than most of the superheroes? He'd look like the sidekick all the time. Also, don't talk to me about camera angle trickery - did Michael Keaton look any taller as Batman than he normally does? No, and he's also 5'10".

-NJM

[NW77]

I doubt Evans is Supes. I take it as just a silly rumor or a hoax. I know he will not be Supes, despite some Internet claiming it. :p

[DRE]

More WB casting misinformation. But I do believe the story details are true this time, as opposed to the last leak.

[Just Jeans]

Even if they do cast the guy, they can pad him up to about 6'2".

[Cody]

IESB has debunked the Evans as Supes rumor.

Moviehole.net has a new one, that Teresa Palmer has landed Wonder Woman.

I'd provide direct links, but I'm on a Mac laptop and feeling too lazy to go through the motions.

[Nick Michalak]

Save you the energy, Cody....

IESB "Evans Not Superman" Link: http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3578&Itemid=99

Moviehole.net "Wonder Woman" Link: http://www.moviehole.net/news/20071026_theresa_palmer_the_new_wonder.html

-NJM

[Just Jeans]

'JLA' Is Not An Origins Story (http://www.syfyportal.com/news424350.html)

Since the development of the "Justice League of America" movie was originally announced, fans have been mainly wondering two things: Will it be an origins movie? And will the cast tie-in to the existing comic book movies?

Well, according IESB, the answer to both of these questions is "No."

Most comic book movies these days are going down the origins route by showing how each character developed their superhuman abilities and then how those attributes changed their life. JLA, however, will not deal with the formation of the unit, but will instead take on the more controversial story as the group begins to fall apart.

As the site explains, the plot has been directly lifted from the “Tower of Babel” storyline in the comics, and will see Batman spying on his fellow Leaguers to ensure none of them go over the edge and become a threat to the world. The story may also feature the death of Bart Allen (otherwise known as The Flash) and a brutal attack on John Jones (The Martian Manhunter) when a mysterious exploding package is delivered him.

Maxwell Lord and Ra's al Ghul are currently expected to be the major villains of the movie, with a third baddie to be revealed in a major twist during the course of the film. Making up the Justice League will be Superman, Batman, Aquaman, Wonder Woman, The Flash, Green Lantern and the Martian Manhunter.

There is little to no word on casting as of yet, however recent rumors that “Smallville’s” Tom Welling have been quashed. The latest news indicates that Rupert Evans will don a cape to become the man of steel however no details have yet to be confirmed.

[Darth Sinister]

Actually that report from IESB should say it combines "Tower Of Babel" and "The OMAC Project". And it's Barry Allen, not Bart Allen as the Flash.

[hack slash]

FROM AICN...so take it as you will fact or fiction????:p
I put tags on all the answers


Which Supervillains Must Contend With The JUSTICE LEAGUE??


I am – Hercules!!


A reputable (if technically untested) source says he’s read the new “Justice League” script and lived to tell of it. This info below is teeming with major spoilers (especially if you haven’t read any DC Comics in a few years), so we have cloaked our source's answers in the miracle that is invisotext.

Keep in mind that this is a script that was maybe written before George Miller came aboard the project as director a few weeks ago. Since Miller typically writes or co-writes the movies he directs, things could change by the time “League” makes the leap to cinemas.



Justice League FAQ

Does the Justice League exist at the start of the film?
It does not.

Has Batman met all the superheroes he has under surveillance?
Yes.

Are the heroes surprised Batman knows all their
secret identities?
No.

Does Lois or Luthor appear in the movie?
Lois is mentioned; no Lex.

With which supervillains must the League contend?
Maxwell Lord, Talia al Ghul (daughter of “Batman Begins’” Ra’s al Ghul) and the Omacs.

Does Superman have a big part?
Superman has a huge part as well as a huge fight with Wonder Woman and Batman.

Do Wonder Woman and Batman team up against Superman?
Diana does team up with Batman against Superman.

Does Aquaman have a big part?
Not so much.

Do we get to see Atlantis or Themyscira?
We see Atlantis briefly, no Paradise Island.

Do we get to see Green Lantern's Guardians or other members of the GL Corps?
Not at all.

Do Hawkman, The Atom, Green Arrow, Zatanna, Hal Jordan
or Black Canary appear and/or exist in this universe??
No.

A living, breathing Barry Allen appears in the script. Is Wally West in the movie as well?
Both Wally and Barry are heavily featured in the film, and are the best written characters in the script.

Are Aquaman, Wonder Woman, The Flash(es), Batman,
Superman, John Stewart and J'onn J'onzz the only DC
superheroes in the movie?
Yes.

What’s the best thing about the script?
Best thing about the script besides all the Flashes stuff is the fight with Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman.

Is that Barry Allen’s funeral at the start of the script?
Yes.

[TheShowstoppa]

I'm glad Rupert Evans wasn't cast as Supes. He just doesn't fit the role. I don't know why, but for some STRANGE reason, I saw Zachary Quinto as supes the other day, then it struck me that he wouldn't work well with the part.

IF it wasn't such a major motion picture, and I didn't have so much ethnicity in me, I could DEFINITELY play Batman. I'm tall, Broad shouldered and I can build up a little, or just tone - depends on my work-out routine. Plus the fact that I have Extremely black hair and dark brown eyes helps. God I wish I had started a career in the movie industry.

However, I have NO idea who could play these parts. By the way - The chick they showed who might be playing wonder woman SUCKS! Why are they choosing such shitty actors? She doesn't even look the part - even in black hair! Plus - SHE'S UGLY AS SIN! Seriously - Wonder Woman is a woman any man would want to have for a night - assuming she doesn't kill him in the process.

[Nick Michalak]

Okay, if this is meant to be the League in its latter years, then the cast should DEFINITELY be into their 30s! If they were doing the JLA as they were just forming, the younger ages would make sense, but if they've been around for a number of years - enough to make Batman super-paranoid - then they shouldn't be casting the age ranges they are. Also, I haven't heard one decent name rumored to be attached to this cast. It sounds like they're just grabbing whoever they can under 30, and running with it. They are rushing this sucker waaaay too much, and that's gonna cause disaster. Remember X3? Remember how underwhelming that turned out because Fox rushed production & pre-production? Remember that the X-Men franchise is now shit-canned because of such missteps? I'd rather they take six months to do a thorough casting process, and get the most stellar cast possible instead of settling for subpar talent. I'm not going to go see the film just 'cause it's JLA or because there's great effects. Basically, I don't want JLA to turn out like Fantastic Four.

-NJM

[Darth Sinister]

The heroes have been established for a while in this film, but they're not following the linear formula of the comics and very little of the Superman and Batman films. Clark, Bruce and Diana were all in their 20's when the first suited up. Hal, Arthur and Barry were in their 30's. J'onn's older than that. John Stweart is a bit younger than Hal was. Wally West, when he replaced Barry Allen, was in his early 20's. Wally is the same age or close to it, as Dick Grayson. They're using actors in their late 20's, so they don't look too old.

[The Dream Master]

Wait, what...the GL representative is John Stewart?! Why not Hal Jordan?!

[NW77]

Wait, what...the GL representative is John Stewart?! Why not Hal Jordan?!

They're probably following the JL cartoon. Not to mention there aren't any black members, so they want to use Stewart like the JL cartoon did.

[The Dream Master]

Well, I suppose it's not that big a deal as long as Hal ends up starring in a GL solo movie (provided they ever make one).

[hack slash]

SHE'S UGLY AS SIN!

WOW if she's ugly as SIN I'd love to see the girls you think of as pretty or HOT

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b61/Django_Scott/vlcsnap-118588.png

[TheShowstoppa]

WOW if she's ugly as SIN I'd love to see the girls you think of as pretty or HOT

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b61/Django_Scott/vlcsnap-118588.png

Okay... IN the above picture - Hot. In the below picture - She looks fugly. I'm more into girls I can actually LOOK at without make-up on.

http://www.moviehole.net/img/theresapalmer.jpg

Just thought I would clarify

[Rich]

Just what we need, a short Superman. Rupert Evans stands all of 5'10". I'd bring up the fact that he's a British actor, but so is Christian Bale. Simply put, he just doesn't have the physical stature to play SUPERMAN!

Like the skinny little punk who played Sup in Returns had the physical stature to play the character. :lol: That is one of the reasons I hated that movie so much.

[Darth Sinister]

Skinny? Maybe when he's not in shape for "Superman Returns", but he's hardly skinny in the film.

http://www.ludovicotechnique.com/images/719_BrandonShoulder.jpg

The suit is what covered up his muscle definition.

[NW77]

Like the skinny little punk who played Sup in Returns had the physical stature to play the character. :lol: That is one of the reasons I hated that movie so much.

Skinny? You think Reeve was fine, when he wasn't big himself? Routh is fine. If you think he was too skinny, you apparently haven't seen him around Dec. 2001. He was skinny as hell with no muscles & bodyfat. The way how he was in SR, he was a hell lot bigger than he was in Dec. 2001. In fact, look at the pic here (http://www.brandonrouth.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=51&pos=2) to show what I mean. And now look at the pic below while he was doing Superman. See the difference? He wasn't skinny anymore like he once was. He is more bigger.


http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/6329/follow000bb3.jpg

Even when relaxed, his arms sure as hell isn't skinny looking there. And since when does someone's physique make or break a movie for you? Superman isn't suppose to be big like a fucking bodybuilder. They draw him like that in the comic book to make him look more heroic. Real life don't need to use that look. And Routh is a hell lot bigger than Evans in term of height & muscles. Or at least when he was Supes. Right now, he probably isn't big. Some people get big or small depend on what kind of roles they are playing in future work.

[Chex]

http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2007/12/04/adam-brody-justice-league-of-america/

27-year-old Adam Brody is going from the Land of Women to the Hall of Justice, as the former television star has closed negotiations to play The Flash in George Miller’s “Justice League of America” movie, the “LA Times” reports. The version of the Flash seen in “JLA” will be Wally West, nephew to original Flash Barry Allen, whose death is rumored to open the upcoming flick.

Considering all the talk between Ryan Reynold's either going for this role or Deadpool, I suppose the question about which he may get is answered slightly more.

Reynold's for Deapool!

[Darth Sinister]

That doesn't mean that Ryan Reynolds won't play him in a solo film. Christan Bale will not be in this film and has one more Batman film to go. And we've been hearing that once the strike is settled and work on "The Man Of Steel" resumes, Brandon Routh will continue.

[Just Jeans]

Reynold's for Deapool!

Reynolds opted out of Deadpool because he wasn't keen on the idea of full body makeup/prosthetics. I'd still like to see Reynolds play the Flash in a solo film.

[Just Jeans]

'Mediocre' Justice League Could Be Down For Count (http://www.syfyportal.com/news424603.html)

What seems like a disaster in the making may not be in the making anymore.

Sources are telling IESB that Warner Bros.' proposed "Justice League of America" film project could be dead in the water despite all the pre-production work that has already taken place at Fox Studios in Australia in preparation for filming to start early this year.

"'Justice League is indeed in danger of not starting production on time, and maybe even getting scrapped altogether," a source told the site last week. "The concerns are that the script is not ready to go in front of cameras, and also that the budget is getting a bit out of control."

On top of that, the Writers Guild of America strike hasn't helped much either with script issues being impossible to resolve since no writers are available to resolve them.

Script issues aren't the only things affecting the project. Studio executives apparently are not happy with the actors brought in to play the superheroes, calling them "mediocre" at best. On top of that, the directors of Warner Bros.' other superhero hits -- Superman and Batman -- haven't been too enthusiastic about a "Justice League" film. Bryan Singer, who directed "Superman Returns" last year, has asked the studio to delay such a project while "The Dark Knight" director Christopher Nolan has expressed complaints about the film since the beginning.

IESB said their latest sources are telling them that production for "Justice League" has now been pushed back to at least April, if it's ever going to get off the ground at all.

[NW77]

I wouldn't be surprise if this happend. They been so slow recently with the casting call (wasn't it suppose to be finish in Nov.?). Not to mention supposely it will be the most expensive superhero movie from what some say. I think WB might be nervous losing too much money on this if JL turn out to be a failure.

[Chex]

Pretty much the same stuff, but:

Justice League of America will not start shooting as originally planned.


I get the emails daily from our readers asking what is going on with JLA, yes there has been an incredible amounts of delays and there wasn’t much of answer coming from our sources, until today.

There hadn’t been much of a slowdown as preparations were still underway over at Australia's Fox Studios as artists, set designers and other crew were busy prepping the film before the Holiday break but why hasn’t the cast been officially announced?

“Justice League is indeed in danger of not starting production on time and maybe even getting scrapped altogether” is what a studio source told the IESB last week. "The concerns are that the script is not ready to go in front of cameras, and also that the budget is getting a bit out of control, the WGA strike has proven to be Kryptonite to Superman and friends."

So while the cast is apparently locked, the studio has had to go back to the actors and extend their holds. IESB was told that at least two high level studio execs headed to Australia right before Christmas to try to resolve these issues and get the film get back on schedule.

“George Miller really wants this movie to be way big but the cast is 100% unknowns,” our source continues.

Another problem we are hearing is that some upper level execs including the new big boss Jeff Robinov is not too sure if the timing is right for JLA. Most of it has to do with the Nolan camp not being happy with the decision of moving forward with the JLA film considering the positive buzz surrounding The Dark Knight.

So what is going to happen? “The cast for Justice League is mediocre, the execs know it's mediocre, it's going to go down to wire on this one, this movie cold be huge but right now it's plagued with a couple of big issues and the WGA strike isn’t making things easier,” our source tell us.

So what's the final verdict on Justice League? I was having dinner this evening when I got a call from one of our moles over at Warner Bros. who told us, "Justice League has been pushed back to at least April or May and possibly a start date as late as June or July…that is of course if the movie doesn't get scrapped altogether."


link (http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4059&Itemid=99)

[Cody]

Countdown to Cancellation (http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=news&id=13262)

It's come down to the wire for the Justice League movie. According to Entertainment Weekly, Wednesday is the day Warner Bros will either let it move ahead... or pull the plug. If you asked me, I'd say that plug is getting pulled; I've heard from more than one source that nobody is happy with the script as it stands, and the word in the last week or so is that Warner Bros is just as unhappy with the (still officially unannounced) Laguna Beach-level cast that director George Miller has assembled. And of course there's other internal dissension, most famously from Christopher Nolan (the guy who has made the only legitimately profitable superhero film from a DC property lately), who wishes this film - and its divergent (but still tied in, based on the story details I have gathered) version of Batman might reflect poorly on his planned trilogy of Bat picture. This movie has disaster written all over it, and unless the strike ends ASAP, the best thing Warners can do is wash their hands of the whole mess.

Of course things could be getting so desperate for 2009/2010 tentpole material that the studio may just let the thing go and hope that their marketing team can sell the picture to an unsuspecting public. The reality, though, is that this movie is going to cost so much that you'd hope the studio had at least some faith in it. Either way, we should know the fate of the Justice League in a couple of days.

[Nick Michalak]

For once, studio execs being business-minded people could do us good here. They'll weigh the risk vs. reward, and most likely determine that this film would cost them more than they can afford. They would spend sooooo much money on it, and it'll be lucky to do the numbers Superman Returns did.

-NJM

[NW77]

I wouldn't be surprise if JLA get the plug. With how it could be the most expensive superhero movie ever made along with unknown actors who are probably mediocre & script supposely being terrible, I would bet it get canned.

[Just Jeans]

I wouldn't be surprised if it goes ahead. After all, if this strike keeps on keeping on, they're going to need the films.

[Spade]

I'd watch it if it gets made, but I won't be sad if it doesn't.

[The Dream Master]

Spade, that's exactly how I feel. I love comic book films as much as anyone, but this one just hasn't grabbed me like it should. I guess it's because I could see it deteriorating into something mundane when it should be epic.

You know, if we ever get any kind of JLA film, I'd like to see someone try to adapt Kingdom Come. It'll never happen, but it'd be awesome.

And on that note, I'll also continue to indulge my fantasy that Bale and Nolan will come back to the Batman franchise 15 years after the completion of their trilogy of films and adapt The Dark Knight Returns as well, but that probably won't happen either.

[Just Jeans]

I remain indifferent to a JLA film as long as the Huntress remains a non-factor. Of course she's never going to be involved in this franchise, so there's little chance that it'll ever be a must-have film for me.

[Darth Sinister]

"Kingdom Come" is too big and ambitious a project to be effectively done.

[Geddy Peart]

And on that note, I'll also continue to indulge my fantasy that Bale and Nolan will come back to the Batman franchise 15 years after the completion of their trilogy of films and adapt The Dark Knight Returns as well, but that probably won't happen either.

I'd like to see a DKR film now with Michael Ironside as Bats.

[The Dream Master]

"Kingdom Come" is too big and ambitious a project to be effectively done.

I know. That's why I said it's never going to happen.

I don't think it's impossible, but it would take a lot of streamlining, and it would probably take more than one movie to pull it off.

[Chex]

"Kingdom Come" is too big and ambitious a project to be effectively done.

The same was said for V for Vendetta, the upcoming Watchmen film, the multitude of other comic adaptations...each one has had somebody saying it's too big of a project to undertake. Opinions vary though on the results, but to some it was pulled off rather well.

[Just Jeans]

Another good example of "it's too big and ambitious" is The Death of Superman. Warner Bros. just can't seem to bring themselves to adapt that arc in live-action.

[The Dream Master]

Yeah, I'd like to see that too. It practically lends itself to a trilogy of epic films.

[Chex]

WB can't even make a decent Superman film as of late according to most viewers. Them adapting a big name story seems out of their grasp.

About Kingdom Come, my problem with it being attempted is that the majority of those characters aren't even present in other films yet. It's not just about Superman or Batman, but a huge cast list and the events that changed them and the world. So far, we barely have a glimpse of Superman and Batman. Until a good basis is established for the rest of DC, nobody should be touching the story in order to try for a film adaptation.

[The Dream Master]

Chex, I think that's why I'm not particularly excited about a Justice League film just yet. I'd rather see Green Lantern and The Flash get a movie before they get some token screen time in another movie.

[Chex]

I agree. I'd rather have individual films as those characters each have their own stories, their own settings, their own trials and trouble, backdrops, and world. Tossing them in a secondary background character with a 10 minute behind the scenes explanation is cheap.

[Just Jeans]

I'd rather see a solo Huntress film than a JLA film, but it'll never happen. Le sigh.

[Chex]

I'd rather see a solo Huntress film than a JLA film, but it'll never happen. Le sigh.

There's actually a rather decent chance for it. Well, as decent as most other comic films.

[Just Jeans]

There's actually a rather decent chance for it. Well, as decent as most other comic films.

Huntress isn't exactly considered top-tier material by the majority of... well, anyone. She's got a nice strong cult following, but if a Huntress teaser trailer went up in cinemas tomorrow, the general audience would just say "Who?"

I'd like to believe she has the kind of appeal needed to make it big on the silver screen, but after Elektra (mediocre) and Catwoman (rancid), I'm timid to see how Hollywood would handle the property. I wouldn't be shocked if the character ends up like the version used in the live-action Birds of Prey series (a bizarre meta-human character).

[Cody]

Warner pulls plug on 'Justice League' (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117979189.html?categoryid=13&cs=1&p=0)

"Justice League" is no longer moving faster than a speeding bullet.
Warner Bros. let the options lapse on the young cast that director George Miller chose to play DC superhero staples. The studio, which had set Tuesday as its greenlight deadline for the pic, confirmed Wednesday the project is on indefinite hold.

Project now most likely won't get under way until late summer or fall at the earliest.

Cast members were informed late Tuesday their options would not be exercised, but they were also assured the studio is determined to make the film with them in it. But before that can happen, there are several problems to be resolved.

The studio's reasons included not getting the official response it needed on tax breaks from shooting in Australia. And while WB execs like the script they got from Kieran and Michele Mulroney, it would benefit from a little more work, something that isn't possible because of the writers' strike.

Some were surprised the studio didn't exercise cast options anyway. The deals gave WB the flexibility to exercise the deals immediately, or in July, and the actors will be making salaries in the low six-figure range. While Adam Brody, cast as the Flash, has a track record, most of the cast comprises such newcomers as Armie Hammer Jr., who plays Batman, and Megan Gale, who will play Wonder Woman.

The studio risks losing them to other film jobs. But it is likely most if not all the cast will make sure to be available starting late summer and fall, just in case. That's because of the starmaking potential of "Justice League."

Studio had set this week as the deadline to greenlight the superhero tentpole, which it was racing to get into production for 2009 release. That was always considered a dicey proposition, particularly when the writers went on strike, and because the film needs to be completed before the SAG deal expires in June.

With "Justice League" on indefinite hold, the studio has a superhero gap on its 2009 slate; status of the next "Superman" pic is also uncertain.

[francesco]

damn, this strike is making huge disasters.

[Darth Sinister]

Actually, it's good. It confirms what we've feared, this is a pile of shit on two legs.

As to the Death and Return of Sueprman, I don't think we need that. We just skated by with it in "Superman Returns". It'd feel redundent.

[Spade]

Maybe they can come back to this movie in a few years after a few more sequels to the current Superman and Batman franchises and a few superhero movies from other JLA members.

[CosmoBubba]

Huntress isn't exactly considered top-tier material by the majority of... well, anyone. She's got a nice strong cult following, but if a Huntress teaser trailer went up in cinemas tomorrow, the general audience would just say "Who?"

That didn't stop them from making movies based on Blade, Steel, Howard the Duck, Man-Thing, Spawn, or Tank Girl.

[Nick Michalak]

Huntress isn't exactly considered top-tier material by the majority of... well, anyone. She's got a nice strong cult following, but if a Huntress teaser trailer went up in cinemas tomorrow, the general audience would just say "Who?"

I'd like to believe she has the kind of appeal needed to make it big on the silver screen, but after Elektra (mediocre) and Catwoman (rancid), I'm timid to see how Hollywood would handle the property. I wouldn't be shocked if the character ends up like the version used in the live-action Birds of Prey series (a bizarre meta-human character).
Well, practically NOBODY knew who the fuck Blade was until Wesley Snipes appeared on screen slaying vampires. So, if there's a chance for a nearly forgotten 70s vampire slaying comic title to get a series of films, Huntress has a chance.

-NJM

[Deathscythe]

I actually remembered Blade from that one Spider-man TAS episode. Oh well.

[nottidelterrore]

I'd be down for a Huntress movie as long as it isn't anything like the Catwoman movie ie. being terrible.

[Rich]

This is good news to me. With Batman and Superman having their own successful film franchises, Justice League would have only screwed things up or confused the hell out of the general public.

[DoomDS]

Superman Homepage is saying it's not canceled


January 18, 2008: Further Details Regarding JLA Movie Postponement


Further to yesterday's news that Warner Bros. has officially postponed the "Justice League of America" film for the forseeable future, a number of news websites have gathered further details that fans might find interesting...
E! Online:


Having already exercised options to extend their pacts once during script development, the studio would have had to honor a pay-or-play agreement effective Tuesday. The actors would have been due six-figure salaries at that point even if Justice failed to materialize.
Instead, Warners has opted to release the actors, allowing them to work on other projects in the meantime. The studio believes that because the film is so high profile, that the largely low-profile cast will remain attached to their superfriendly roles.


ABC.net.au:

Adding to the studio's woes are questions of tax incentive qualifications in Australia.
The project's costs have been escalating, and the script needs a serious overhaul if the movie does not qualify for discounts.


Reuters:

"Justice's" delay is considered good news for Christopher Nolan's camp. The director is in post-production on "The Dark Knight," the sequel to "Batman Begins," and is said to have been unhappy with the "Justice League" movie because its version of Batman clashed with his one, starring Christian Bale. Nolan has been resisting directing a third "Batman" movie, though the studio would relish the possibility and could begin heavy courting.

Interestingly, the various news reports can't seem to decide whether Scott Porter or D.J. Cotrona was cast as Superman in the JLA movie. I've noticed different reports about this story listing one actor or the other in the Clark Kent/Superman role.
In Australia it is standard practice to give employees at least one week's notice before releasing them from their employment. My own personal contacts inside the JLA crew tell me that they're indeed being asked to continue finishing off the projects they were working on for the remainder of the week. Indicating that Warner Bros. is serious about picking up this movie when the writer's strike and tax break issues are resolved.

[The Dream Master]

Wait, that says Nolan is resisting a third Batman film? That can't be right--he's gone on record as saying he's doing a trilogy. In fact, he pitched Batman Begins as the beginning of a trilogy. Unless that article means he's threatening not to go ahead with it if they make a JL movie, I question its validity.

[Darth Sinister]

Actually, Nolan has said that he doesn't know for certain if he'll do a third film. He didn't indicate whether it had to do with JLA or not.

Speaking of “finishing,” is this film the last for you on the Batman franchise? It’s been a big part of your life for the last half decade.

NOLAN: [Laughs] That’s right! It’s really tough for me to ever talk about future projects. Films particularly of this scale are such mammoth propositions. I never thought that I would do a second “Batman” film. Let me put it that way. I had no thought of doing a second one when I was doing the first one, but obviously you never say, “Never.” Every film I’m working on, however, to me is generally the last film I’m ever going to make. That’s my approach to making film. It’s one of the reasons actually that I’m not comfortable putting footage out or early trailers because I’m engaged in making one thing at a time. I’m very single-minded and very focused on the task at hand and I do focus on just this movie. I really don’t have anything in my head about what’s next or doing another one or whatever.

http://www.wizarduniverse.com/magazine/wizard/006862392.cfm

[killingvector]

Wait, that says Nolan is resisting a third Batman film? That can't be right--he's gone on record as saying he's doing a trilogy. In fact, he pitched Batman Begins as the beginning of a trilogy. Unless that article means he's threatening not to go ahead with it if they make a JL movie, I question its validity.


Fantastic. :cry: If we have to endure news of a third Batman origin film from a third different director, I will petition the Guild to declare Adam West as the only actor who can ever play this character again.

[Kat]

Well, practically NOBODY knew who the fuck Blade was until Wesley Snipes appeared on screen slaying vampires. So, if there's a chance for a nearly forgotten 70s vampire slaying comic title to get a series of films, Huntress has a chance.

-NJM

:bow::bow::bow::bow::bow:

This sums up my feelings.

[Darth Sinister]

Even if Nolan doesn't come back, that doesn't mean that they'll restart the story again.

[The Dream Master]

Yeah, but there's a hell of a good chance that it won't be nearly as good as Batman Begins or what I expect The Dark Knight to be.

I thought Nolan and company had already said they have plans for a third film? At any rate, I think he's just being coy. I'm sure he'll be back for the third one.

[Darth Sinister]

More than likely that's the case.

[DRE]

There are many other filmmakers who could do just as good a job as Nolan did with Batman. I'm willing to bet that Guillermo Del Toro would make a Batfilm that would kill Begins. I think Nolan is great, but I think it would be best to look past just him for this second run of the Batman franchise.

[Jack Bauer]

I think if Guillermo had his way with a Batman film, it would be the first rated R "mainstream" comic film.

[DRE]

He would do a true Frank Miller Batman, and I wouldn't have it any other way. I like my Batman non kid friendly, which is why I love Batman Returns so much, and hopefully Dark Knight follows suit.

[The Dream Master]

Someone else can come in and do something with the franchise as soon as Nolan gets his third film in. I've always had the idea (for whatever reason) that Nolan had a very clear direction he wanted to take these films. For the sake of continuity and cohesiveness, I want Nolan to at least get to finish what he's started. I think Del Toro could do great things with the Batman franchise, but I want Nolan to finish things first.

[Just Jeans]

I think Nolan is great, but I think it would be best to look past just him for this second run of the Batman franchise.

Let Nolan have his trilogy and then bring in some new blood. That's pretty much what they're doing with Spider-Man as well, it appears. Although I reckon when Nolan leaves, that'll be Bale done with the franchise, too.

[Jack Bauer]

To DRE: I am waiting for the day someone does a faithful adaption for TAS and see how that would be done on the big screen. Because that's the Batman I loved as a kid.

And The Dark Knight looks to have the same dark atmosphere from Begins, but it also promised escalation at the of Begins. So I guess that would be a hint to what's in store in TDK.

[Just Jeans]

I've always had the idea (for whatever reason) that Nolan had a very clear direction he wanted to take these films.

Whereas Nolan says he's not even sure he'll do a third. Looks like Nolan needs to get on the same page as you, Brett. :D

[DRE]

I always believed he wanted to do three as well. But that may not be the case it seems, unless it's a negotiating ploy, if so, give the man all the money he wants (He has earned that and more.)

I just don't want history to repeat itself and we get a lesser "Bat" director for the third and fourth films. PT Anderson following Nolan would equal Schumacher following Burton.

[The Dream Master]

Whereas Nolan says he's not even sure he'll do a third. Looks like Nolan needs to get on the same page as you, Brett. :D

See, that's my point, Jeansie. I swear I've seen Nolan talk about a third film already, so that interview that Sinister posted has me all kinds of distraught. :cry:

[Just Jeans]

I reckon he's just playing Devil's Advocate. Contracts for the third film probably haven't been signed, and unless Bale goes off and dedicates all his time to the Terminator franchise, I expect they'll be doing a third Batman.

[killingvector]

Even if Nolan doesn't come back, that doesn't mean that they'll restart the story again.

Many probably thought the same after Ang Lee and Eric Bana tackled the Hulk. I doubt Nolan bails, no pun intended, but never underestimate the lure of a powerhouse director with a new 'vision.'

[DouglasJ]

See, that's my point, Jeansie. I swear I've seen Nolan talk about a third film already, so that interview that Sinister posted has me all kinds of distraught. :cry:

He has talked about a third film, I remember it clear as day. When Begins was still in the works, there were interviews where he and Goyer stated clearly they had worked out a trilogy. They said that the second would end with the Joker being caught and the third be about Joker scarring Harvey in court, and then Two Face being the main bad guy obviously some elements of this have changed, with Harvey as Two Face being confirmed as appearing in The Dark Knight but there is at least something out there that points to it being a trilogy.

Infact isn't The Dark Knight based on the original concepts Nolan and Goyer put together during writing Batman Begins?