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Jus-X
12-22-2009, 10:58 PM
Above is a poll with lists of actors that came after Christopher Reeves as Superman/ Superboy (Live action, non-animated). Choose the best actor/portrayal and discuss why you chose the person.
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Personally I can't decide between Dean Cain and Tom Welling. Tom is the better actor (and portrayel) in comparrison... but Dean, while still a good actor, is fully powered and kicking ass as Superman. He is sure of himself like Reeves, and he doesn't doubt himself.

Voorheeszilla
12-22-2009, 11:11 PM
Tom Welling, hands down.

Imo, Tom Welling is the best person to have been in the role ever, though I'll always love the interpretations from Chris Reeve & Brandon Routh.

Jus-X
12-22-2009, 11:22 PM
I think once Tom Welling's incarnation grows more confidence and starts to fly that would seal it for me. But as of right now it's a draw. Nice new avatar by the way.

Voorheeszilla
12-22-2009, 11:32 PM
Thanks, and he sealed it for me a while ago. For a short amount of time it was a draw between him & Routh, but after season eight, that's what officially sealed the deal for me.

nottidelterrore
12-23-2009, 12:21 AM
I've only seen a few episodes of Smallville(I want to start picking up the seasons) but I liked Tom Welling's portrayal from what I did see.

If we had animated incarnations, I'd probably vote for Tim Daly from Superman: The Animated Series or George Newbern from Justice League/Justice League Unlimited.

Christopher Reeve is probably my favorite Superman actor of all-time though.

Spook
12-23-2009, 01:07 AM
I'd agree that if the animated incarnations count, Tim Daly would win hands down for me. However, I would have to go with Brandon Routh. Never cared for Tom Welling. Smallville is just too teeny-bopper for my tastes. I've tried watching a few episodes and they've done nothing for me. Dean Cain wasn't that bad, actually. I loved Lois & Clark growing up. It's a shame, though, that I have yet to see a fully satisfying version of Superman. S:TAS is the best incarnation of the character, hands down. I really wish they'd put some effort into it and give Supes a Batman Begins-esqu reboot. Lex Luthor is one of my all time favorite villains... but outside of TAS, none of the versions were ever good, imo.

Voorheeszilla
12-23-2009, 01:44 AM
I've only seen a few episodes of Smallville(I want to start picking up the seasons) but I liked Tom Welling's portrayal from what I did see.

If we had animated incarnations, I'd probably vote for Tim Daly from Superman: The Animated Series or George Newbern from Justice League/Justice League Unlimited.

Christopher Reeve is probably my favorite Superman actor of all-time though.

You should definitely pick up the seasons, it's a terrific show that I've been following almost since it came out. I'm a huge Superman fan in general, always have been, and for me, Tom Welling portrays Superman exactly as I want to see him in live action. I'll just be glad when he finally gets the classic suit, though I must say the black suit is pretty rad.

jasonlives13
12-23-2009, 02:57 PM
You should definitely pick up the seasons, it's a terrific show that I've been following almost since it came out. I'm a huge Superman fan in general, always have been, and for me, Tom Welling portrays Superman exactly as I want to see him in live action. I'll just be glad when he finally gets the classic suit, though I must say the black suit is pretty rad.

A superman fan are you :



It's fine if you are a Superman fan but facts are facts. This wouldn't even be a fight. The Surfer can just remove his powers permanently if he chooses to.

Him having cosmic powers isn't a cop out at all. It's part of his abilities, so I don't see how it's a cop out. And even if he doesn't use his cosmic powers to take away Superman's powers, he's still going to tear him a new hole.

I don't see Superman winning at all. At most he'll be able to keep up with the Surfer for a while until his energy begins to deplete.

I highly doubt it. The Surfer just all around operates on a higher level of power than Superman.

I just seem to find it unlikely with all of the above you've said about him?

Jus-X
12-23-2009, 03:08 PM
I'm a Superman fan JL13, and I still say if the Surfer is smart he'd lure Superman away from yellow and blue stars. Its a FACT that Supes gets his powers from the yellow sun, and on a planet with a blue sun his powers double. If you take Superman's batteries away, his powers won't regenerate. And because Surfer's powers aren't confined to suns, he has the upper hand. Doesn't make me a non-Superman fan, it means I know both characters. If you want to argue more about it, do it in the SM vs SS thread... this thread is just about the incarnations of Superman post-Chris Reeves.

Voorheeszilla
12-23-2009, 03:17 PM
A superman fan are you :



I just seem to find it unlikely with all of the above you've said about him?

Okay, dude, let me tell you where you're wrong. This thread is to state who you think is the best since Chris Reeves, it has nothing to do with a debate about him fighting the Silver Surfer, so not only was it absolutely pointless for you to doubt me being a fan (which I have been for years and years now) but it was also pointless for you to even post if that was all you're going to add. Obviously there are incarnations out there that the Surfer could defeat, and some he couldn't, which I tried to make clear. Still, has nothing to do with this thread.

All in all, if all you're going to do is try to say someone's not a fan, bug off. I don't want to read it.

jasonlives13
12-23-2009, 03:37 PM
I'm a Superman fan JL13, and I still say if the Surfer is smart he'd lure Superman away from yellow and blue stars. Its a FACT that Supes gets his powers from the yellow sun, and on a planet with a blue sun his powers double. If you take Superman's batteries away, his powers won't regenerate. And because Surfer's powers aren't confined to suns, he has the upper hand. Doesn't make me a non-Superman fan, it means I know both characters. If you want to argue more about it, do it in the SM vs SS thread... this thread is just about the incarnations of Superman post-Chris Reeves.

Yeah I know and I voted Tom Welling, Voorheeszilla claims to be a superman fan, all im saying is with his past posts it doesnt look like it, I quoted what he said, I didnt say this was about the SS vs SM thread. Read up a little, maybes if in that thread he had of said im a superman fan but I'd give it to surfer then fair enough.

Okay, dude, let me tell you where you're wrong. This thread is to state who you think is the best since Chris Reeves, it has nothing to do with a debate about him fighting the Silver Surfer, so not only was it absolutely pointless for you to doubt me being a fan (which I have been for years and years now) but it was also pointless for you to even post if that was all you're going to add. Obviously there are incarnations out there that the Surfer could defeat, and some he couldn't, which I tried to make clear. Still, has nothing to do with this thread.

All in all, if all you're going to do is try to say someone's not a fan, bug off. I don't want to read it.

I won't bug off, like I said in the above quote, your stating your a superman yet you slate him in another thread, thats all I didnt go into any details.

Jus-X
12-23-2009, 03:55 PM
Guys let's try and keep it civil. I didnt' post what I did to start any fights. You're both cool posters and I'm not looking to fight with anyone, if you want to go at it, go at it in PM, please.

Monkey
12-23-2009, 04:21 PM
I wouldn't know who to vote for. Never watched Smallville or Lois & Clark. Didn't really care for Superman Returns.

For me, Christopher Reeve was Superman. Whenever I see another incarnation on-screen, I always think about the original.

If I voted, I'd go with Routh, but only because he's the only one I'm familiar with.

Jus-X
12-23-2009, 05:24 PM
Just for either nostalgia, or to remind you all who these guys are, this is John Newton:
http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/superboy/superboy-john1.jpg
http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjQ0NTUzNDkzNF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwODE4MTczMQ@@._ V1._SX255_SY400_.jpg
This is Gerard Christopher:
http://www.patfullerton.com/superman/pix/clark/clark1991.jpg
http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/superboy/superboy-gerard-stacey1.jpg

MysterioMan007
12-23-2009, 05:32 PM
I like Smallville as much as the next guy, but I can't vote for Tom Welling because his portrayal of Clark Kent and Superman are no different. Reeve played both the heroic Superman and awkward Clark Kent to a tee. I think Brandon Routh did the best with what he had to work with...

DouglasJ
12-23-2009, 07:00 PM
I voted for Routh, but equally I like Gerard Christopher. He was the better Superboy of the two, in my opinion.

Dean Cain, I like. I dislike the show, but I don't think he's the best since Reeve.

Tom Welling plays Clark Kent, not Superman. He's just Clark Kent all the time, so... nah. I like him in the show and all, but he has yet to feel like 'Superman' to me.

Christopher Reeve (no 's' at the end - thats George) was always my Superman, and I probably gravitate towards Routh because of the similarities.

Darth Sinister
12-23-2009, 09:42 PM
I'm torn between Gerard Christopher and Tom Welling. Both are similar in how they portrayed Superman and Clark Kent. Dean Cain was way too polite to be Superman and didn't have the same edge. Brandon Routh was good, but we didn't see enough of the imposing tough guy part.

And let's leave out the Superman fan arguement. This is not the time and place for it. There's a whole separate thread for it.

Voorheeszilla
12-24-2009, 12:32 AM
Yeah I know and I voted Tom Welling, Voorheeszilla claims to be a superman fan, all im saying is with his past posts it doesnt look like it, I quoted what he said, I didnt say this was about the SS vs SM thread. Read up a little, maybes if in that thread he had of said im a superman fan but I'd give it to surfer then fair enough.

Since when do I have to state in everything I'm a fan? It's a debate thread, I don't have to come in all of them saying I'm a big fan of whoever the thread is about, that makes no sense at all.


I won't bug off, like I said in the above quote, your stating your a superman yet you slate him in another thread, thats all I didnt go into any details.

Why does it even matter if I'm a fan or not to you? I stated I am, and you're trying to say I'm now, which I guess means all the years of reading comics, watching TV shows, and collecting movies means nothing, even though I have every Superman movie there is.

Please be aware you're the only one pestering me about something that occured in another thread that hasn't got a bit of relevance to this thread. I'm done even discussing this, because it's pointless.

jasonlives13
12-24-2009, 10:52 AM
Since when do I have to state in everything I'm a fan? It's a debate thread, I don't have to come in all of them saying I'm a big fan of whoever the thread is about, that makes no sense at all.




Why does it even matter if I'm a fan or not to you? I stated I am, and you're trying to say I'm now, which I guess means all the years of reading comics, watching TV shows, and collecting movies means nothing, even though I have every Superman movie there is.

Please be aware you're the only one pestering me about something that occured in another thread that hasn't got a bit of relevance to this thread. I'm done even discussing this, because it's pointless.

To be fair I didnt mention it again after Justyn talked to me about it, and I havent mentioned it after these recent posts.

Jus-X
12-24-2009, 04:35 PM
Actually Vzilla hadn't posted since your last post, so I think that was in response. But now that's it's out of your systems, let's move along.

One thing I gotta agree with is what Darth Sinister said about Dean Cain being a nice Superman. I mean that's what the show called for so it doesn't really piss me off, but the fact I think of is this... With Dean's Clark and Superman, the only difference was tights and glasses. No character differences. They were the exact same person. Clark has always been the nerd. A bumbling idiot and a clutz. He hunched, and he was unsure of himself. His voice was different and it was hard to tell the new apart based on character attributes. In LAC on the otherhand, Deans portrayel of both showed no differences. I actually like this because it proves that no matter how smart we are, man will always really on sight to get them through the day.

One thing though. And I laugh thinking about this all the time. No one ever noticed that Superman and Clark get haircuts at the exact same time? Lol.

MysterioMan007
12-24-2009, 04:56 PM
One thing though. And I laugh thinking about this all the time. No one ever noticed that Superman and Clark get haircuts at the exact same time? Lol.
I wonder how they cut his hair. It seems like the scissors/razor would break or something.

Jus-X
12-24-2009, 05:04 PM
I'm one episode of LAC we see Clark shave by using his heat vision reflecting off a mirror. Maybe that? Or maybe his mom had scissors made of kryptonite?

Darth Sinister
12-24-2009, 09:24 PM
1. Clark and Superman being different personalities goes back and forth based on the version DC and other media use. The 50's series had Clark and Superman being practically the same, without different personality traits. Likewise, the Reeve and Routh films along with the Superboy series made distinct differences between public Clark and Superman/Superboy. Joyn Byrne made physical differences, but personality-wise, they were the same. Geoff Johns is using a variation of the film version.

2. Clark can only shave his face using metal from the ship that brought him to Earth. The metal can withstand his heat vision, as does the lenses in his glasses in certain versions. The only time Earth glass was used to shave his face was in an episode of "Superboy" and "Lois & Clark". And once in the comics in 1995. Earth metal can be used, but it melts too quickly. When it comes to the hair on his head, it stops growing by the time he was eighteen and only grew out when he was dead. He didn't get to cut it until he had lost his powers just before getting married to Lois. Red Kryptonite can cause the hair to grow, but that's very rare as it causes different effects each time he is exposed to a piece. Red sunlight can be used to take his powers away long enough to cut his hair or a weapon made of magic. Or Kryptonian weaponary. Otherwise, the scissors will break. When Clark's hair grew out following his resurrection, Supergirl/Matrix used her shape shifting abilities to pose as Clark alongside Superman, while Jimmy Olsen took a picture of both. Clark Kent was said to have been buried alive for a month and thus his hair had grown out.