Return to Sleepaway Camp

[Ron]

Now, I was gonna post this in the Recent or Never-Coming Films section, but I realized that it doesn't exist. So I've decided to start a thread for those that have any news about this film (yeah right), or to just vent your frustrations.

[sCabbOy]

Was there ever news for this movie? Or at least "official" news?

Grr

[Joshg]

I've got news about the film!

"It's Rob's little secret."

:X

[Ron]

i know there were some screenshots and minimal official news about this movie, but that's about it.

[Lance Lives]

I was thinking about this the other day. I figured it would get released eventually but it's still looking the other way. Any news on the apparent other sequels that were set to get made?

[MaDMaNMaRz]

There is going to be Sleepaway Camp: Berserk. But people on here have said it's only a script at the moment.

[Melanie Jarvis]

It's only a script for now but I definitely see it happening because it is getting way more support than RTSC.

[sCabbOy]

Berserk also has storyboards from what I have seen. It should get more publicity. RTSAC is nothing more than a mirage.

[Ron]

I'm still rallying for RTSC just because I'm so fond of the fact that Felissa Rose is Angela again.

[kramerfan]

I still hope this comes out one day

[sCabbOy]

I'm still rallying for RTSC just because I'm so fond of the fact that Felissa Rose is Angela again.

I heard Felissa was only shown at the end of the movie though, anyone know if this is true.

I was more psyched to see Isaac Hayes as the camp Chef.

[Ron]

yeah, I'm pretty sure that Felissa is only in the last scene .

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Isaac Hayes as the camp chef will definitely be awesome. :)

[Wheatjedi]

yeah, I'm pretty sure that Felissa is only in the last scene .

If that's true, then I've finally lost all interest in this film.

[Spade]

Isaac Hayes as the camp chef will definitely be awesome. :)
I completely agree.

Take care and God bless.

Spade

[Ron]

Well I've also heard that Felissa actually plays a cop so maybe she has more screen time than expected.

[sCabbOy]

Yeah, hopefully she's in the movie more than what would be a cameo.:duh:

[NETRA]

I'm confused. Was this movie made but never distributed? Or is it just on paper?

[sCabbOy]

It's been written, filmed, re-filmed, re-edited, tweaked, polished up, re-shot and...... never released. It's been done since 2003/4? Right?

The basics are pretty much secret. It's probably a legal battle or who knows. We have heard so many rumors why this movie hasn't been released yet- no money to pay actors, legal issues (Hiltzik had no legal right to make a sequel), re-shoots, CGI problems, more re-shoots and so on.

[PeterBaker]

The only news I've heard on RTSC is that nobody is happy with the CGI, and that the movie is nearly done with Post. So, I wouldn't be suprised to see it early next year.. But damn, its been a wait. In addition, im really curious about Berkserk.

[jackdeth]

It's been written, filmed, re-filmed, re-edited, tweaked, polished up, re-shot and...... never released. It's been done since 2003/4? Right?

The basics are pretty much secret. It's probably a legal battle or who knows. We have heard so many rumors why this movie hasn't been released yet- no money to pay actors, legal issues (Hiltzik had no legal right to make a sequel), re-shoots, CGI problems, more re-shoots and so on.
I'll see this when it comes out but, it's not a movie I'm anxiously awaiting anymore. I'd rather see Micheal Simpson's Berserk get made, since I enjoyed his sequels a lot.

[sCabbOy]

I'd rather see Berserk as well.

It's a slasher, how much CG can it really have? Who cares if it sucks anyways? Most well done high budget CG is awful.

[kramerfan]

I hope it has hardly any CGI.

[Dusk]

The gist...

The male cop character throughout is Felissa Rose in heavy prosthetic makeup which comes off in the climax.

The skinny...

http://sleepawaycampfilms.com/underground/sc5ending.htm

[Joshg]

Damn myself for ruining it!!!!!!

Anyways. So yeah. It pretty much pisses me off that the problem is CGI. If they never used that terrible idea, none of this would happen. Well...it would. But it would have been one less thing to worry about.

[sCabbOy]

Thanks Dusk... thanks for spoiling the entire movie for us! Oh wait, there is no movie... ;)

As for CG... slasher movies DON'T NEED IT. Slasher movies have been made since 1957 without it, and there's no need to change. Things like a head decap can easily be done with CG, but using practical SFX it will not only look better, but look more real (less cartoony).

I'd rather than bad latex head flying off of fake body than a cartoon beheading.

[Joshg]

May I ask what film (from '57) you consider a slasher please?

I always thought of '45's "And Then There Were None" a slasher.

[The Tall Man]

I think he's referring to The Bat with Vincent Price?

T.M.

[sCabbOy]

Poor White Trash (aka Bayou) 1957. It may have not been a dice 'em up slasher, but it had axe killings, girls running around in underwear, and a cabin in the woods. If you wanna disclude that because the lack of blood or "on screen deaths" then I stand corrected. PWT was more a thriller, but I guess it can go both ways.

[PeterBaker]

Well, I was suprised how much CGI the Devils Rejects had in it, and CGi in Slashers is used in Scream, to FvJ, ANOES, ect.. However, if SC director relied too much on CGi for post, and with the less-hollywood budget he had.. it may take a while for him to afford some nice CGi rendering and whatnot. :jason:

[Ron]

I thought the CGI in See No Evil destroyed the movie, but that's just me.

[sCabbOy]

I thought the CGI in See No Evil destroyed the movie, but that's just me.

Haha, I agree. The CGI was unnecessary. The building was obviously a set with a horribly fake background. The last kill was stupid... like a shitty pinball machine.

Without the CG in that movie it would've been half way decent.

[101ant101]

i thought see no evil was good. but some scenes just felt really bad

[The Tall Man]

Well, I was suprised how much CGI the Devils Rejects had in it, and CGi in Slashers is used in Scream, to FvJ, ANOES, ect..
What?! They didn't have CGI in "A Nightmare on Elm Street". Hell, Craven couldn't afford it.

T.M.

[Joshg]

Poor White Trash (aka Bayou) 1957. It may have not been a dice 'em up slasher, but it had axe killings, girls running around in underwear, and a cabin in the woods. If you wanna disclude that because the lack of blood or "on screen deaths" then I stand corrected. PWT was more a thriller, but I guess it can go both ways.

Hell no. If it had lack of blood and on screen deaths, it would still definately be considered a slasher. I know Poor White Trash Part II from the 70s (i think) is a slasher no doubt. So, I suppose the first could be. Never watched it though. Maybe I should. :)

[sCabbOy]

Hell no. If it had lack of blood and on screen deaths, it would still definately be considered a slasher. I know Poor White Trash Part II from the 70s (i think) is a slasher no doubt. So, I suppose the first could be. Never watched it though. Maybe I should. :)

PWT was sort of boring. It was of course black and white, but shot really well considering. Everything was offscreen, of course, but that doesn't make a movie any less slasher.

[Joshg]

Yeah, just look at...uh...Night School? I think all those deaths were offscreen, but still, it's a slasher!

And back to RtSC, with all this talk about CGI, I'm not sure I even want to see it anymore. I know it won't measure up to the first two, and probably not as fun as Part III. Hmm, grr at you Hiltzik! Grrr. (Did I spell that right?)

[sCabbOy]

Ill watch it... I will just rather the movie be leaked because I'm not going to pay to see it out of spite. I'll buy it used if anything.

[101ant101]

Ill watch it... I will just rather the movie be leaked because I'm not going to pay to see it out of spite. I'll buy it used if anything.

its taken too long. i remeber i was looking at this back in 2006. any news about the date its coming?

[sCabbOy]

its taken too long. i remeber i was looking at this back in 2006. any news about the date its coming?

in 2004 it was finished. no date yet

[Ron]

The good new about this film is that it's going to be released, the question is when? Hiltzik just want all the effects to be perfect, which they should. I would predict that we'll see this be released probablt in the fall of next year.

[nickmeece]

Big news from SCF.com...

The question "What is up with Return To Sleepaway Camp?" has brought vague answers over the years. SleepawayCampFilms recently contacted several producers from the flick and asked for the 411 on your, the fans, behalf. Thank you to all those who took part, fans may sleep a little safer after this, having a better idea what the year may hold. Joe Nicolo, executive producer, answered "All I can tell you is what I know. The film is finally done and is being shopped now." Jonathan Sachar, executive producer, elaborated "the delay on Sleep was the color correction which has been complete and the score, which we were not happy with so it took an extra 6-8 months to get the score right... tighten up the edit... (which was way too long) the film is finally in shape". And finaly, producer Tom Van Dell had the following to say, and dropped a few bombs I'm allowed to share early:

"We have been busy selling the film and have three credible big studio offers on hand and will be meeting with those peeps next week at Sundance to make our final distributor selection. The film is done and ready for release. Fans will certainly see it within this year!!!!! Kerner Optical (formerly Industrial Light and Magic, of George Lucas fame) will be debuting the trailer for the film in addition to MAKING THE ANNOUNCEMENT that they are co – producing the next and what Robert and I consider the third part of the original SC trilogy which will be shot in both 2D and 3D. Yes, Sleepaway Camp 3 in 3D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It will be stellar. We will be holding a contest soon for fans to create one of the 3D killings that will feature in the third installment. The tag line for SC 3 – 3D will be “From Sleeping Bags to Body Bags…You’ve Never Had This Much Fun Being Scared…in 3D!”"

[Ron]

Nick, you just made me as happy as a pig in shit with this news. thank you soo much for posting it:D

[nottidelterrore]

Nice! Let's hope that we'll FINALLY be seeing it this year.

[nickmeece]

Nick, you just made me as happy as a pig in shit with this news. thank you soo much for posting it:D

Glad to help.

Just remember: the bees sting bad sequels, so look out! (Sequel-Buzz reference, had to)

[sCabbOy]

Great news, but haven't we heard news like this before? For some reason I will only believe it when I see it.... but if it's true, then it's GREAT news.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I'm with scab on this one.

[The Dream Master]

You know, at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if Englund started going around giving news about it. It's reached that status.

Obviously, I'm believing it when I see it.

[The Tall Man]

they are co – producing the next and what Robert and I consider the third part of the original SC trilogy which will be shot in both 2D and 3D. Yes, Sleepaway Camp 3 in 3D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Whoa there, Hitlz... Walk before you run, pal.

You know, at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if Englund started going around giving news about it.
I actually would believe King Englund.

T.M.

[Patrick]

The poster for this needs to be a rip-off of the Jurassic Park poster:

Return To Sleepaway Camp

65 Million Years In The Making

[kramerfan]

Ill believe it also when i see it.

[i am SAW]

Fango has learned that Magnolia Pictures has picked up the long-gestating RETURN TO SLEEPAWAY CAMP, and has scheduled a current DVD release date of October 14 (details and art to come shortly). Originally lensed four years ago under original SLEEPAWAY writer/director Robert Hiltzik, the revival of the slasher series went back for gore FX reshoots in 2006 (pictured; see item here). Original actors Felissa Rose, Jonathan Tierston and Paul DeAngelo return for another round of grisly slayings, joined by THE SOPRANOS’ Vincent Pastore and Isaac (UNCLE SAM) Hayes. Look for a full feature on RETURN in Fango #277, on sale in September.

[The Dream Master]

"The Guys from Blade are attached."

[Brett H.]

I'd like to see it, but after the hell that went on with this movie, it can't be much. I'm gonna have to ask Dusk if all the actors got paid for being in the movie (I know this was an issue at one time). That'll be a key situation as to whether or not I buy the movie.

[sCabbOy]

Well, Dusk may know but really I doubt no matter who says what there always will be another side tothe story.

[nottidelterrore]

Wow...could it be true!?

[Titan]

If it comes out October 14th that will be a great birthday present for me.

[kramerfan]

I hope it does.

[nickmeece]

A release date?

About. Fucking. Time.

[sCabbOy]

Yeah, now watch the DVD be held back multiple times.

I'm excited to see it, but like I said I must buy it used. I'm going to go into a rage like the Hulk if this movie sucks.

[Ron]

I for one am stoked (no surprise there!) I'm not getting my hoped up, but I know I'll most likely be entertained by this film somehow even if it is shitty.

[The Dream Master]

Am I the only one not getting my hopes up not because we've been teased by its release before, but because I'd rather see Berserk instead? :X

[Brett H.]

Yeah, Berserk has more potential to be entertaining. I dunno how this one will turn out. I just think Berserk has more promise, or maybe it's just easier to expect it to be an entertaining film rather than a crap shoot that is this one.

[sCabbOy]

I agree with that 100%. I have more faith in Simpson than I do Hiltzik.

[nickmeece]

I agree with that 100%. I have more faith in Simpson than I do Hiltzik.

Amen to that.

[nottidelterrore]

I agree with that 100%. I have more faith in Simpson than I do Hiltzik.

Me too. Simpson seems like a really nice guy too. I was in the chat featuring him & Benji Wilhoite that took place last October. A really fun time!

My hopes aren't entirely up about this. It's nice to have an actual date. Let's see if they deliver.

[kramerfan]

Is Berserk being made yet?

[The Dream Master]

I'm pretty sure it hasn't begun filming. Simpson has had a script ready for a while now, I think. I guess it's all about funding at this point.

Return to Sleepaway Camp is up for pre-order at Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B001CT876C/officialsleepawa).

[kramerfan]

Ok thanks TDM.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I definitely wouldn't spend $19.99 on it. $10 is the most i'll shell out for it. I don't want to support this by spending the full amount. I won't give them the benefit of the doubt, haha.

[sCabbOy]

Give it a few days after they are on sale, here will be many up used (and new) for half the price.

[Patrick]

The end of the world must be near for this to happen.

[God of Thunder]

Eh, I'll probably pay full price for it. I've waited long enough. I can't help but notice I'm not all excited about it... if this had been 2004 and they announced this I'da had a fuckin heart attack. But, I'll still give it a watch, and also Berserk if it comes out. Hopefully it'll at least be entertaining.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I've always been more interested in Berserk. I think John/Dusk still has the storyboards he made for those up at the SC site. I was rather impressed with them.

[Patrick]

Me too. I am more interested in Berserk.

[kramerfan]

What about Sleepaway Camp Reunion?

[The Dream Master]

They're supposedly getting ready to shoot Reunion. The guys from Bla--. Oh, forget it. You know the drill.

[nickmeece]

I just pre-ordered RTSC on Amazon...like it matters.

[sCabbOy]

I'll order it when it gets closer just incase the date is changed.


I hope Reunion shoots quickly and is released quick. I think I''ll go crazy if I have to wait another 4 years.

[i am SAW]

apparently the trailer is here,

http://www.sleepawaycampmovies.com/

but it won't play for me.

[sCabbOy]

Trailer looks good!

[Jack Bauer]

It does but it needs more Angela.

[Brett H.]

I dunno what the fuck I just saw...

[Jack Bauer]

It's apparently about a bully snapping after the kids begin to start bullying him.

[The Dream Master]

The trailer won't play for me for whatever reason.

Nevermind, there it goes. And what in the fuck was that? Instead of watching Felissa Rose stare vacantly at shit for 70 minutes, we're going to see some kid get picked on a bunch? Kills looked pretty good though, and it looks like a crazy, over the top cheese-fest. I'll check it out.

[Brett H.]

It's apparently about a bully snapping after the kids begin to start bullying him.

That premise is weird for RTSC to me. It seems like it is more akin to 2/3 than the original. And, seeing as those are considered two different entities in the SC-verse, I think it's funny where the tone of this 4th one goes even though it's by the director of the first.

It's nothing I wouldn't watch, I just never expected THAT. There's gotta be a twist in there around the ending though and it's not the bully. If there wasn't, then I'd be worried.

[The Dream Master]

I was thinking the same thing about Hiltzik doing a film that looks more along the lines of Simpson's two flicks (which Hiltzik seems to dislike). And since Rose is in this, I have to guess there's going to be some type of twist.

[blink]

I...um...wow :doh:

[sam hane]

Looks like what I expect from a Sleepaway Camp movie, I can't wait to see it.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

It actually looks promising!

[CosmoBubba]

So basically "Return To Sleepaway Camp" was a codename for a horror movie version of Angus?

[sCabbOy]

It looks like it CAN be promising... who knows. It has a good look, and from what I see the feel of the original. Hopefully it won;t be a piece of shit.

[Sean [The Wildcard]]

Wow....um....wow...

Just...NO.

:confused::rolleyes::doh:

[MaDMaNMaRz]

It looks like it CAN be promising... who knows. It has a good look, and from what I see the feel of the original. Hopefully it won;t be a piece of shit.

That's exactly what I thought. It looks like it'd have the feel of the original.

But then again, we barely saw any footage, so it could still turn out to be shitty. Who knows, maybe we won't be let down, and the wait will be worth it.

[The Dream Master]

I don't know, I think it looks more like the sequels in tone, myself. There were a few shots/moments in the trailer that seemed to get back to the first film, but not on the whole. And that's not a bad thing because I love the sequels.

[hack slash]

OMG!!!!!! This looks crappier than the originals HAHAHAHAHAHAHA:side:

G1fPxZMPf2w

[sam hane]

It actually looks very similar in tone to the original (there was only one original)

[sCabbOy]

I agree Sam... ound slike they used a similar score as well.

[Ron]

I love the score to the original.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Here's the cover for RTSC. I think it actually looks pretty cool.

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3549/rtscdvdcoverni8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[nottidelterrore]

I think the cover is about average. It's nothing great but it's not too bad either.

The trailer plus a release date has restored some faith in this. I think it'll be cheesy fun.

[The Dream Master]

If it ends up being cheesy fun, then I'll be happy because that'll mean it's falling right in line with the other three.

[kramerfan]

I like it.Looks 80s looking to me.

[Cody]

Egads, the trailer has really kicked down my interest. I don't want to watch any more of that Alan kid.

[Ron]

Here's the cover for RTSC. I think it actually looks pretty cool.

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3549/rtscdvdcoverni8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I love that cover! I don't think my interest in this film can be faded for obvious reason. The original is my favorite horror film and I will force myself to like this film if need be, but I am clearly biased.

[sCabbOy]

I think the cover looks too.... photoshopped, as in using a crappy photoshop clone.

I like it though, very retro in some ways....

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Yeah, it does have a Photoshop look. But it does have that 80's vibe to it. Too bad they didn't hand draw it.

[Ron]

I like it because it brings me right back to Judy's cabin when the door is opened and we see our silhouetted killer, ready to kill.

[sCabbOy]

If I was the mastermind behind that photoshop program I would have did the filter that makes it look like it's been painted. I agree, it's hard to capture the old school vibe 100% unless the cover has been penned.

[Ron]

For some reason it has the same feel as the "Camp Slaughter" cover art to me.

[Joshg]

It's not perfect, but I think the RTSC cover (along with the MBV '09 cover) are the best ones of the new decade I've seen in a while.

[sCabbOy]

I love the new MBV cover... definitely one of the best of the year.

[Joshg]

Totally agree.

Oh, and I just watched RTSC's trailer. While I don't think it'll be spectacular, or capture what the original felt like, it seems to be somewhat promising. My dead faith in this film has been...resurrected (?), I think. Wow. I never expected that. :O

[sCabbOy]

Don't get me wrong, I am still bitter and plan on buying it used from a used or cut-out bin rather than buying it new and supporting it.

[nottidelterrore]

I actually like the MBV '09 cover too.

I want to get RTSC but I'm not going to pay top dollar for it. If I can get it for $10 or less, I'm game.

[SoulOnFire]

I read the plot description on the official page and then watched the trailer and now I'm totally confused. The trailer looks like a totally different movie than what's described in the plot. It doesn't even look like a SC sequel, just some random "Guy goes nuts" movie.

Looks good as a stand alone movie though.

[The Dream Master]

Yeah, I would have no clue that it's supposed to be a Sleepaway Camp movie from the trailer (well, besides the title, of course). I mean, it kind of looks to be over-the-top and wacky like the two sequels are, but I can think of a few slashers that are like that. That said, Felissa Rose is supposed to be in this, so who knows what's going on?

[Ron]

I believe her screen time is very limited.

[sCabbOy]

I believe her screen time is very limited.

Yep, someone mentioned that it only shows here in the "unmasking" of the killer. Rumors were she was playing a "male" cop or something, who knows.

[nottidelterrore]

Hopefully we'll see what happens when the DVD is out. I'm excited for the DVD yet still kind of iffy about it actually coming out when it's supposed to be released.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Yep, someone mentioned that it only shows here in the "unmasking" of the killer. Rumors were she was playing a "male" cop or something, who knows.

I've heard those rumors too. I wonder if they kept that aspect of the story?

[Ron]

There could have been reshoots that could have delayed the film to this point in order to make the end of this film a true shocker like the original.

[nottidelterrore]

Haha they could've shot a few more films in the time it's taken for RTSC to be released.

[sCabbOy]

Hell, given a 15-25 day shoot, 3 months pre and post production 5-6 of them could have been shot.

[Lance Lives]

The cover is decent I'd say. It does look photoshopped of course, but they were going for something cool I think. When is this SUPPOSED to be coming out now?

[Joshg]

A bit too photoshopped, I agree. But I still enjoy it.

Oh, and the date is, I believe, October 14th....tmmo, it'll be two months! :)

[VoorheesGuy91]

This movie looks like pure garbage...

[sCabbOy]

I wouldn't go as far as saying it looks ike pure garbage, it definitely looks a lot better than a lot of stuff people praise to be great like Hatchet and Slither.

[The Dream Master]

If this is half as good as Slither, it'll be a miracle. :X

[nottidelterrore]

I thought Slither was pretty damn good. My expectations for it were very low but I walked out of the theater surprised at how much I enjoyed it.

[sCabbOy]

I thought Slither dtarted great, but ended up... dumb... although it did have some good parts. I dunno, I went away from the movie thinking it was incredibly dumb in the end.

[Lance Lives]

I was pleased with Slither, but I didn't have too much expectations for it. This flick is doomed to be bashed just because of the build up.

[The Dream Master]

Hiltzik's involvement has me going in with pretty low expectations. Between that and the fact that it's been sitting on the shelf for five years, I'm not expecting anything great, but, hey, maybe it'll surprise me. Like I said before, the gore looks sick.

[sCabbOy]

In the mainstream eyes there really was no build up, just build up from the horror community. I dunno, I just didn't get it...

[Lammert]

This movie looks like pure garbage...

Agreed.
I might check it, but it looks like a waste of film.

[kramerfan]

Ill pass on this.

[Ron]

I really hope this movie doesn't disappoint me the way The Wizard of Gore remake did.:confused:

[sCabbOy]

I haven't seen the WOG remake, but I never thought the WOG remake would be as great as the original to begin with,

[Ron]

The gore in the original WOG was the centerpiece of the film like it should have, but the remake didn't do that.

[nottidelterrore]

From sleepawaycampmovies.com

Magnolia Pictures will be releasing the RETURN TO SLEEPAWAY CAMP DVD on November 4th to coincide with the 25th anniversary of the original movie. Bonus features will include the Jeff Hayes documentary: BEHIND THE SCENES: Making RETURN TO SLEEPAWAY CAMP. Felissa Rose co-hosts the documentary which features exclusive on-set footage, photographs, interviews, and puts you behind the scenes of the gruesome new Sleepaway Camp. Also, keep your eye out for the Halloween issue of FANGORIA (on sale end of October) which features an exclusive set visit feature article and photographs from the eagerly awaited movie.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Hopefully it was worth the wait!

[Jigsaw]

I didn't care for the first three Sleepaway Camp movies, but this one sounds kind of promising.

[sCabbOy]

This may be nothing, but the listing on amazon has "this item has been discontinued by the manufacturer"


eep.

[The Dream Master]

It might have something to do with the fact that the release date was pushed back, but who knows? I won't believe this exists until it's at my doorstep.

[Cody]

Reviewed by AICN's Vern. (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/38559)

Positive, with spoilers. Camper moments and kills, no big surprise spoilage.

[nottidelterrore]

Pretty good review. I still can't believe it's finally coming out.

I won't buy it right away but I will get me a copy.

[Ron]

I really hope that November 4th is the actual day that I will finally get my pot of gold at the end of this endless rainbow of disappointment. :fingers crossed:

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Judging by that review, it sounds like it could be pretty decent. Now if only they'd release when they say they will.......

[Brett H.]

How many of you have actually seen the Michael J. Fox summer camp TV movie referenced in that review? One thing can be sure, me and Esten have.

[Esten]

dat flik r0ol Bert.

[Ron]

I'm glad to see that Ricky's potty mouth lives on through the campers in this film:D

[Jason_Legend]

That review sounds cool. A retro movie that isn't even trying to be retro, but is in some kind of timewarp. I'm looking forward to this, more and more.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

We could all witness this, if they'd just release the damn thing already!

I just checked, and it shows that it's still coming out November 4th, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.

[Ron]

I'm pretty confident about Novemeber 4th, but my reasoning may be faulty/obvious.;)

[Cody]

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Chock full of running girls and stalker boots!

[Joshg]

Some of those girls are straight out of the 80s fashion scene!

[Ron]

My hopes are getting pretty high...

[The Dream Master]

Now that actually looks like a Sleepaway Camp movie, I guess.

[sCabbOy]

Very old school, indeed... the movie looks a bit generic though that does not bother me at all. The acting also looks bad, which again is my cup of tea.

[nottidelterrore]

Looks like it'll be fun as hell to watch.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

RTSC looks like it's going to be very 80's, which has me excited. It looks like it'll be a really fun movie. I really hope that Nov. 4th is the final date. They've jerked our chains waaaay too long.

[Ron]

I can't take another push back. I'm thinking positivley though because this date feels like the real deal.

[The Dream Master]

I hope November 4th is the real date because that's Election Day, which I have off. I'll go pick it up that day and watch it (after I vote, of course).

[nottidelterrore]

I'm sold on this just by seeing Adam Wylie tied up in a chair(I assume he's tied up anyway) as well as Ronnie's muscle shirt. I wonder if he has a permit for those guns?

[Ron]

I think Ricky looks stupid with bleached blonde hair.

[nottidelterrore]

Yeah he does.

I'm actually very excited for this. There was a time when I didn't give a shit about this movie because of all the nonsense delays. After seeing the trailers, I'm amped as hell. I just really hope they release it on the fourth with no more delays. Don't let us down!

[sCabbOy]

Ricky has had that hair for a while though... well Jonathan Tiersten. It does look douchy though.

[SlasherFreak]

It looks like it's getting released on the 4th after all...it already leaked online.

[sCabbOy]

I contemplated DLing it... I sure as shit ain't buying it new- I will grab it used.

[Ron]

Ricky has had that hair for a while though... well Jonathan Tiersten. It does look douchy though.

Yeah I know, he should have atleast pulled an 'Eminem in 8 Mile deal' where he dyes the hair or goes back to his original color for filming.

[SlasherFreak]

I contemplated DLing it... I sure as shit ain't buying it new- I will grab it used.

Im thinking about downloading it too. I've waited awhile for this movie, but I would of course be buying it when it comes out.

I think I should be allowed to download movies legally cause im a special features nut and buy all the movies i download anyways :D

[sCabbOy]

I got it, it didn't have an audio track so I deleted it. Oh well... I did watch a lot of it, and visually it is great. The opening credit sequence is very 80's and has the feel of the original. The gore that I saw was done pretty well, the scenery was much like the original. It looked GREAT

[nottidelterrore]

I watched it earlier today & loved every second of it. It was one of those "so bad that it's great movies." The acting is terrible but it works....especially the character of Alan. He's so terrible & overacts that I see him shining like some gold. RTSC felt like a throwback to 80s slashers & reminded me of the sequels. At least those are the vibes I felt.

It had some pretty rad death scenes, my favourites being the deaths of Bella & TC.

Ricky is only there for two scenes but his foul mouth returns.

The cop being Angela is predictable as hell. Reminds me of Screech with a beard. :lol:

One of my favourite parts was when Frank the camp owner was screaming at Alan for "corrupting his bird."

I am definitely going to add this gem to my collection.

[Joshg]

Just watched this.

Pleasantly surprised. I can't wait to buy it and watch it in good quality again.
It's hilarious! Creative! Bloody! And it delivers a nice twist ending. I didn't notice much CGI either.

It feels like a 1998 horror movie. Haha. The editing is weird, Alan sucks at acting, and it's really hokey. But I loved it. However, I mildly prefer Parts 1 and 2 to it. Maybe even 3.

[Ron]

Sounds great to me! I can't wait to get my copy when it's released.:)

[nottidelterrore]

I'd place it as my least favourite entry but I still love it.

I didn't notice a lot of CGI at all. Perhaps in Weed's death but that's really it so they didn't overdue it at all. Not a bad thing at all. :)

My favourite line of the entire movie is when Alan & Randy, the dickhead camp counselor have an altercation when Alan uses a lighter & hairspray after he & some boys light their farts. Alan's lit fart is inferior to the farts of the other boys. Randy asks him something like "Are you really that stupid?"

Alan's reply:

"Not as stupid as you, you big penis!"

:lmao:

[Lance Lives]

That trailer kicked ass. It'll be great to see Big Pussy and Issac Hayes. Did the guy from CKY's cameo make it to the final product? Wasn't he married to Felissa Rose?

[nottidelterrore]

Deron Miller(guitar/lead vocals) from CKY is Felissa's husband.

The guys from CKY are in it in cameo roles as camp counselors. A blink & you'll miss it type deal where they take over an air hockey table in the recreation cabin.

Vincent Pastore has this talking bird named Matilda that he adores. It's pretty funny...especially when he starts screaming at Alan for corrupting his bird by teaching it to say "your ass stinks," which is something Alan says a lot to the campers.

Isaac Hayes is only in a few scenes or so but it's good to see him. I'm glad he doesn't die.

I'm using spoiler wraps out the ass just so I don't ruin anything for anyone. :)

[Joshg]

I'm pretty sure it's my least favorite too, but I still really enjoyed it.
Some CGI I noticed:
-Weed's death with flaming head and bits of him flying about from the exploision. Poor weed. :(
-The rats in Vincent's stomach. Eeew, nice touch Hiltzik.
-Uuummmm...that may be it. Wow. How the hell did that take 5-6 years? LOL.

For anyone wondering, here's the body count...SPOILSSS!!! GALORE!!!:
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1: Mickey - Boiled to death in cooking oil
2: Weed - Fed gasoline; forced to smoke joint, resulting in being PWNED!!!
3: Frank - Fed to hungry rats and torn apart
4: Randy - Tied to a tree; penis ripped off
5: Linda - Head squeezed with barbed wire
6: T.C. - Impaled in the head with a spike
7: Bella - Crushed with falling top of bunk bed; impaled with nails
8: Michael - Skinned alive!!!
9: Cop - Head crushed by car

Woohoo! :)

[nottidelterrore]

Ah yeah the rats in Frank's stomach did look pretty crappy. Now wonder. Haha. Maybe the lit farts were CGI too.

Bella cracks me up, especially when she calls Alan "penis lips" after he confronts her after she shoots spitballs at him.

[Joshg]

Bella was my favorite character. She was......awesome! All I can say. Hilarious too. Great lines. "You puss bag!"

[Ron]

It's killing me not to read the spoilers!

[Joe Strummer]

I saw this a few days ago and I don't know what to think. The acting was horrible and one of the stars annoyed the holy fuck out of me. Some kills were pretty creative tho. What bothered me is the "twist" was incredibly obvious from the very begininng due to AWFUL make up and the ending was embarassing. However, I saw the screener, so it could be like Halloween with a different ending.

It's definitely the worst Sleepaway film, but somewhat enjoyable. Like I said, some kills were great.

[Ron]

Bad acting and creative death sequences = cinematic gold

[nottidelterrore]

On Sleepawaycampmovies.com, it has a banner on the index page saying that RTSC will be available at Target. If so, I'm there on the 4th. I really hope it's not $20 though.

[sCabbOy]

I saw this a few days ago and I don't know what to think. The acting was horrible and one of the stars annoyed the holy fuck out of me. Some kills were pretty creative tho. What bothered me is the "twist" was incredibly obvious from the very begininng due to AWFUL make up and the ending was embarassing. However, I saw the screener, so it could be like Halloween with a different ending.

It's definitely the worst Sleepaway film, but somewhat enjoyable. Like I said, some kills were great.

I think it will easily be the worst because 1-3 were so great in my opinion. I heard that the twist was really bad from pretty much everyone who has seen it... and when I was flipping through it I tried not spoiling it so I did not see the awful make up haha.

[Nightstalker]

I've been anxiously awaiting this for awhile.I like parts 2 and 3 but I'm kinda glad they're ignoring them with the new movie.Only a few more weeks until its out on DVD.I can't wait :D

[Ron]

On Sleepawaycampmovies.com, it has a banner on the index page saying that RTSC will be available at Target. If so, I'm there on the 4th. I really hope it's not $20 though.

That's good to know...I'll be at Target November 4th regardless of the price.

[Spook]

Oh snap! I loved this movie! I think it's a very worthy sequel in the Sleepaway Camp franchise. It was craptacular fun! I've seen a lot of people complain that they were disappointed because of some shoddy CGI and bad acting/annoying characters. Isn't that the point of the films? I always thought these movies were supposed to be intentionally bad. This one is a winner in my book. Ridiculous fun.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

It's cool that Target is going to be carrying this. I'll probably end up caving and paying full price, even though i've said I wouldn't for quite awhile. I'll make that exception because i'm actually really looking forward to seeing this again.

[Ron]

At this point I am happy. November 4th IS the release date. No more pushbacks, no more bullshit. People have seen the movie and a good portion have praised it. Bad acting and dialogue? It's all camp my friend. That's what I what and intend on seeing!

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Bad acting and dialogue? It's all camp my friend. That's what I what and intend on seeing!

That's what I was hoping to see! :D

[nottidelterrore]

Bad acting & bad dialogue galore. The character of Bella will crack you up.

[simonthekillerewok]

I managed to see this movie recently, I won't say how as it's against the forum rules..

There's a few things that were great about it and a few things that are just plain bad:

The main character Alan, the big fat kid was funny in the first 15 minutes, but when he kept over-acting like a whiny- unbelievably retarded fat kid for the whole movie it just got boring. The fact that he was bullied in EVERY SCENE by EVERYONE wasn't entertaining, it was far- fetched and reminded me of a movie worried 12 year olds would see. There were no singular antagonist bullies like in the original film (which was more believable), all of them did pretty much the same thing as one another. They were cardboard and not even in a fun way like in Friday the 13th.

Another HUGE indefensible problem with the movie is the pacing. Every scene is not only a duplicate of the one before, but there is no place for us to take a breath, so that the next scene will be more entertaining due to contrast. A dramatic scene is more entertaining after a quiet scene, with this film it's just drama mixed with comedy in every scene until the end of the third act.

The dialogue was also piss poor(even for Sleepaway Camp standards) as the jokes that the bullies were saying were as old as Hiltzik himself that they sound out of date by at least 40 years.

I can't believe that Hiltzik completely ignored Sleepaway Camp 2 and 3 because he hates them for being stupid or something, when clearly Return is equally as stupid, poorly written (if not worse) and not even half as funny as those movies when it tries so hard to be.

Another thing you'll learn is that nothing new is added to Angela's character, At least part 2 and 3 did something refreshing.

The things I did like about it, was the camera/cinematography they used because fuck other recent attempts at looking vintage (Grindhouse, Devil's Rejects, Cabin Fever) this film visually LOOKS like it is a lost 80s movie! Even the characters sound like they are from the 80s! This was something I didn't think was achievable. And I give Hiltzik a lot of credit for something that even Tarantino failed to do. It's this atmosphere which makes the movie worth watching.

The second good thing was the final scene (not the road scene), and even though it was disappointing to some extent, it was a good enough pay off.

I rate it a 6/10

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I'm really tempted to read your post, Simon. But i'd rather wait until it comes out. A 6/10 isn't a bad rating. So far i've heard alot of people think it's pretty good, so that's a good sign.

[Ron]

I can't wait. I've heard many people say that the death scenes are really well done and they are pretty gory.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I've heard that as well, Peter. I'm glad, because it seems as if the extremely long wait was actually worth it after all.

[simonthekillerewok]

I've heard that as well, Peter. I'm glad, because it seems as if the extremely long wait was actually worth it after all.

The deaths scenes are pretty good, however the film isn't that gory as one might have hoped -neither were the other Sleepaway Camps!

[The Dream Master]

That's actually one of my problems with Sleepaway Camp 3 especially. That movie has some of the most batshit crazy kills, but there's hardly any gore to go with them. I guess they blew all the gore budget on part 2.

[sCabbOy]

The gore was cut, which I dont feel hurt the movie since to me it was more comedy than a gore movie. I wish they would put the cut scenes back into the movie. I mean we have them in the cut footage of the DVD.

[The Dream Master]

Yeah, that's right. I'd forgotten all about the deleted scenes on the DVD. I'm surprised they weren't just put back into the movie properly. Oh well.

[Brett H.]

They couldn't put the cut scenes back in because there was only location sound for them.

[nottidelterrore]

I love Kim Wall's flagpole death from Sleepaway Camp III. :D

[Dave Dunwoody]

the first half of this film was hilarious. I almost wish it hadn't become a slasher.

[Ron]

I can't wait until Tuesday!

[Speck]

I pre-ordered this from Amazon. I got an e-mail saying it shipped today. Finally!

[The New Blood]

I've never seen any of these movies, but that trailer sure looked weird.

[Huggyface]

So how did it end and was their more than one killer? I've waited for this so long I don't care about being spoiled anymore.

[Ron]

You can't just wait until tommorow, lol?

[Lammert]

I saw the film, to many plotholes and the ending just sucked... I was like what just happened these last 20 seconds?

Silly film, nothing compaired to the original.

[The Dream Master]

Not surprisingly, nobody around here had this in stock today, so I just ordered it from Amazon. I guess I won't be seeing it for a week or so.

[sCabbOy]

As always, I got mine from Amazon. I just get tired of store hopping checking on titles like this.

[The Dream Master]

Well, the website for Best Buy said my local stores had it in stock; when I got there, they claimed it was there, but the guy couldn't find any in the store or the warehouse. I didn't feel like checking out Target, so I just put in the Amazon order.

[Esten]

Well, the website for Best Buy said my local stores had it in stock; when I got there, they claimed it was there, but the guy couldn't find any in the store or the warehouse.

Hiltzik told me it's movie magic.

huh

[Ron]

I called Target today while I was at work and they said that they had plenty in stock, but I had a little family emergency so I'll have to pick it up tommorow..no sweat though.

[Apocalypto]

I saw this at work this morning (as odd as that sounds), it's actually so entertainingly awful that I was oddly drawn to it somehow.
I always felt that if you're going to make a bad movie, go all the way with it, which they definitely did.

I saw it right up until Angela took the ridiculous looking get up off and revealed herself, then had to turn it off. Could someone give me a little description of what happened after that?

[God of Thunder]

I love Kim Wall's flagpole death from Sleepaway Camp III. :D

My personal favorite is Bobby getting his arms ripped off. If you watch the delted scene of it (and evidently this is in the TV version) you hear him go "Hey wait, where you goin? If you need a condom I got one right here!!" LOL. What a dumbass.

[Lammert]

The main charachter is a fat kid who gets really annoying, no wonder they picked on him.

About the ending:
It was easy to find out that the deputy cop was Angela, 'he' moved and looked like a woman... but the end was so fast, she revealed herself, the surviving people look scared and then its over, why not explain a little more?

A big let down...

[Germaniac]

Lamy, you have to wait AFTER the end credits because there is a little sequence afterwards which shows how Angela got the Uniform .

I loved RTC. Sure, the original is more creepy, but RTSC was a lot of fun and had some nice nods to the original. Sure, the ending was predicitble since it was way too obvious that something is wrong with the cop ... I mean, the make-up was way too obvious It´s definitly 1000 times better than those 2 suckquels (they look like cheap homemovies compared to Hiltzik´s SC´s).

[Apocalypto]

I loved the first sequel, SCIII was pretty much SCII but with worse death scenes and one-liners though.

[Spook]

Hey, I loved SCII and SCIII. I thought they were great, ridiculous fun. I also very much enjoyed RTSC. Predictable ending, but it was still great.

[The Dream Master]

My order shipped today, so it's possible I'll have this by Saturday. I hope that's the case, anyway.

[Ron]

I ended up getting mine from Best Buy. I agree that it was pretty obvious that Angela/Peter was disguised as the cop, but I enjoyed it nonetheless. It was refreshing to see that Paul D'Angelo is still a wonderfully horrible actor!

[Lance Lives]

I got this on Netflix yesterday. I had it in my queue but it said "Short Wait" so I wasn't actually expecting it yet, so that was a pleasant surprise.

I really dug it. It was hilarious in my opinion. Apparently the ending was ruined for a lot of people a while back, but I had no idea what was going on with that, but still was able to figure it out. I simply thought, "geez, it's pretty stupid make a main character have a voice box thing for no other reason than because he was giving a speech about cancer....wait a minute...".

[Speck]

I just got finished watching it. It was hilariously cheezy, but in a good way. I liked the references to the original Sleepaway Camp I thought the ending was good, but predictable. I purposefully avoided looking at threads on other forums that gave away the ending. I wanted to see it for myself.

[Demon]

I rented this from dvd play for a 1.00,everyone that picks on alan gets what they deserve,mikes death would have been cooler if you saw more,

[Ron]

I was disappointed that the car crushing the head scene was not in the movie. That is until I watched after the credits. Man or not, Angela is hot!

[Lance Lives]

So, was much of the leaked version of the movie different than the official release? I know the ending wasn't changed which has some people complaining.

I personally thought it was hilarious and worthy of the series.

[The Dream Master]

Well, this finally came in the mail today, but I'm in no shape to watch it. I'll probably wait until Friday night so I can give the flick a fair chance.

[Ron]

There is a "twist" if you will..

[Cody]

So, was much of the leaked version of the movie different than the official release? I know the ending wasn't changed which has some people complaining.

The only difference I know of does concern the ending, but just scene/credit order. The cop head crush was before the end credits on the leaked version.

[Lance Lives]

Cody, was that scene originally at the head of the film? Because if so, that would've really given away the "twist".

[Cody]

No, it was the last scene.

[Ron]

I'm confused then..where was that scene placed?

[Cody]

The twist was revealed - sudden flashback - roll credits.

[Ron]

Ahhh....I see said the blind man, as he picked up his hammer and Saw...

[nottidelterrore]

It was refreshing to see that Paul D'Angelo is still a wonderfully horrible actor!

Did you see his neckbones sticking out when he was accusing Petey of being Angela? Haha. Intense!

[Ron]

He brought that level of camp to the role that was so sorely needed.

[Lammert]

To bad the fat kid didn't die... he killed the movie for me.

[Ron]

There were some good red herrings sprinkled throughout the movie...too bad everyone knew Angela was the killer.

[The Dream Master]

Finally watched this last night, and I found it oddly entertaining. I mean, it wasn't really a "good" movie, but it accomplished what it set out to do, I guess. The ending was quite predictable (I picked out that something was up with the cop the minute he showed up and figured it had to be Angela in disguise). Overall, I still say this felt more like the two Simpson sequels than the original, which is odd (but good because I prefer the sequels). Plus, what's up with Hiltzik naming a character T.C.? There's only one T.C., and he has a marvelous, flowing mullet. I guess I'd place it 4th in the series just after the original. I don't regret buying it.

[Ron]

The second time I watched it I laughed my ass off and I don't usually laugh during horror movies.

[Rich]

Okay, after years of waiting for this film, it is finally out. I think I may have to pick up a copy for myself. I own the first three Sleepaway Camp films. I was never big on the original, but I enjoyed the sequels very much. I'll have to at least rent or check out the new one soon enough. I am not willing to drop $25 on it, but maybe I'll give it a rent or wait until Blockbuster has it pre-rented for like $10 or something.

[nottidelterrore]

The second time I watched it I laughed my ass off and I don't usually laugh during horror movies.

I pretty much laughed the entire time throughout my first & second viewings. RTSC is a hilarious turd of a movie.

[Rich]

This movie just plain sucked. The story was okay, but how did Angella break out of the institution? The ending was too abrupt. She stands there and laughs, and what do the other characters do? Do they just run or do they tackle Angella or what? Also, it would have been nice to have more Angella in the film. The hidden police officer angle was a good one. That one kind of threw me off. Over all, it was a huge disappointment. We have waited years for this to finally be released after it was made. Now, I can see why. They did not want to release it because it was so bad, but we kept demanding it so we got it. I guess some films are better off staying unreleased.

[nottidelterrore]

I heard that in the "Behind the Scenes" feature, Felissa Rose reveals that the real Angela survived the boat crash so it's possible that the killer in RTSC was the real Angela while Peter(with his peter) was locked up in a mental institution.

Who knows? Hopefully Reunion gets made & touches upon this.

[Ron]

I really hope that Angela did not survive the boat accident. I like Peter as the killer.

[Rich]

After that horrid abomination of a movie you guys seriously want another one? I will definitely be skipping any future installments of this series. I'll stick to the first three.

[Ron]

I actually liked RTSC, but even if I didn't, I still think that a film series with the type of credibility that the Sleepaway Camp franchise has deserves another shot.

[The Dream Master]

After that horrid abomination of a movie you guys seriously want another one?

Funny, that's probably the same thing people were asking about the Friday the 13th series around 1985, if not sooner. :shyface: