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Utellme
07-13-2007, 06:33 AM
Post any information if any on this possibility.And your ideas of what a 2nd edition box set should contain.

Nancy Thompson
07-13-2007, 10:17 AM
i would like if they ever do make another boxset that they have uncut movies from all the movies. that be good to see

Rich
07-13-2007, 05:00 PM
The only thing that will ever sell me another Friday the 13th dvd is if the film(s) are uncut. I don't need Alice Cooper music videos or commentaries (though I wouldn't no complain if I got them). All I need is uncut movies.

MaDMaNMaRz
07-14-2007, 03:52 AM
I'm with Rich. All I want are the movies uncut.

The New Blood
07-14-2007, 04:02 AM
As, I've said before, if there is atleast some uncut films in the set, I'll buy it, otherwise, I'm not interested at all.

sCabbOy
07-14-2007, 04:05 AM
I'd like uncut movies, that would never happen, so better BTS footage, better featurettes and commentary for all movies.

Wheatjedi
07-14-2007, 04:05 AM
Well.... since the original post asked for ideas on what a possible (but, imho, unlikely) DVD box set would contain, here's mine:

1. Uncut versions of all 8 films.

2. Commentaries on all eight films:
Part 1 - Sean Cummingham, Tom Savini, Betsy Palmer and Adrienne King
Part 2 - Steve Miner, Amy Steel, John Furey, Stu Charno, Steve Dash
Part 3 - Steve Miner, Dana Kimmell, Paul Kratka, Larry Zerner, Richard Brooker
Part 4 - Joe Zito, Corey Feldman, Kimberly Beck, Crispin Glover, Tom Savini
Part 5 - Danny Steinmann, John Shepherd, Melanie Kinnaman, Shavar Ross
Part 6 - Tom McLoughlin, Thom Matthews, Jennifer Cooke, CJ Graham
Part 7 - John Buechler, Kane Hodder, Lar Park Lincoln, Kevin Spirtas
Part 8 - Rob Hedden, Kane Hodder, Jensen Daggett, Scott Reeves

3. I would also like docs on each film that featured interviews with as many cast and principal crew members as possible.

4. Horror's Hallowed Grounds segments that visit all filming locations.

sCabbOy
07-14-2007, 04:22 AM
I wonder if a commentary will be done at the Friday The 13th 3 reunion?

That would be great.

Wheatjedi
07-14-2007, 04:24 AM
That would be the perfect opportunity for someone to do it. It'd be a real shame if it didn't happen.

sCabbOy
07-14-2007, 04:28 AM
I agree, because TRacie Savge, Dave Katims, KRatka, Zerner, Kimmell, Brooker and Erik mentioned asking Jeff Rogers and I think Cheri Maugans as well.

It would be great, even if it was alive commentary.

The Dream Master
07-14-2007, 07:30 AM
The only way I'll buy the cut versions again is if they're released on an HD format. Besides that, nothing's going to get me to buy these for a third time on standard DVD.

CampNewBlood
07-14-2007, 07:44 AM
I wish. I'd gladly buy another (better) boxset. I'd love all the films to be uncut and better and longer interviews for EACH film.

I won't hold my breath.

sCabbOy
07-14-2007, 07:57 PM
HD would be great... when I get a HD player... I heard combos will be 250-300 or cheaper by Xmas.

Darth Sinister
07-15-2007, 10:06 PM
I'd go with the above mentioned, but also include any behind the scenes material that was shot. Plus new interviews with any cast and crew who wishes to participate.

CampNewBlood
07-17-2007, 08:50 AM
Yea. I can't wait for Paramount to release them on Blu-Ray.

Oooooo......hurry up. =P

Lammert
07-17-2007, 01:41 PM
I think the only way we could get another boxset is to get a really big boxoffice sequel or remake.

Wheatjedi
07-17-2007, 05:01 PM
I could see us getting a 2-disc "special edition" of the first film when/if the remake/reimagining ever actually happens, but I just don't think Paramount will put out another box set. If Anchor Bay had the series, it would be another story....

sCabbOy
07-17-2007, 05:28 PM
I personally wouldn't care about an SE of Part 1- we already have that.

Rich
07-17-2007, 05:43 PM
I personally wouldn't care about an SE of Part 1- we already have that.

No we don't.

In America we have a box set that does include some Part 1 extras. Overseas we have an uncut version with a documentary. Films like A Nightmare on Elm Street, Halloween, and The Texas Chain Saw Massacre all enjoy the double disc treatment with all kinds of extras. Friday the 13th barely get anything.

kramerfan
07-17-2007, 06:28 PM
I hope a remake/reimaging happens so we can hopefully get the 8 f13the uncut.Include a cast commentary for all 8,any deleted/cut footege/All uncut,new featurettes/interviews,and anything that exists in vaults.

The Tall Man
07-17-2007, 06:33 PM
Apparently Rob Hedden still has his 2 1/2 hour workprint of Friday 8 as well as outtakes and a blooper reel that he offered to Paramount and they flat turned it all down.

ALL of that should be in a new set.

T.M.

Wheatjedi
07-17-2007, 06:42 PM
Really? Wow! I'd love to see that. The idea that Paramount turned his offer down makes me think even less of them.

sCabbOy
07-17-2007, 07:21 PM
No we don't.

In America we have a box set that does include some Part 1 extras. Overseas we have an uncut version with a documentary. Films like A Nightmare on Elm Street, Halloween, and The Texas Chain Saw Massacre all enjoy the double disc treatment with all kinds of extras. Friday the 13th barely get anything.

It's not hard to find the WB special edition Uncut DVD. It also is very easy to crack a DVD player to play it... so in essence we have it. I'd personally like an SE of PArt 2,3,4 5 or whatever since nothing more can be done on a Part 1 SE, other than commentary.

We have Part 1 uncut, with a great featurette (on the WB DVD)... then the featurettes on the box set. I doubt we will ever get much more than that.

CampNewBlood
07-18-2007, 03:03 AM
It would be cool to have a lenticular cover on a new boxset and when you moved it back and forth it would show Jason's hockey mask and then his face or something. That has nothing to do with special features I know, but it just popped into my head and i thought I would share. :D

Rich
07-18-2007, 09:33 PM
Wouldn't it be awesome if New Line actually bought the Friday movies from Paramount and made an infinifilm box set, along with a Nightmare infinifilm box set? That would be something. I know I am dreaming a wonderful dream that will never happen, but it would be cool.

CampNewBlood, that is a cool idea for a cover for one of the movies. You know what would be silly but fun? Remember in the video game Super Mario 64 when you can pull on Mario's facial features and distort him? Well, it would be funny if they made a Friday dvd one say where you can do the same with Jason's face. lol. Jason's face is messed up looking enough, let's see how much worse we can make it.

sCabbOy
07-18-2007, 11:21 PM
I think Paramount would be stupid to sell. They have to know that someday it's going to pay off when he series starts back up.

Rich
07-18-2007, 11:24 PM
They would never sell them. I was just saying how awesome it would be if they did. I know they never wood though. They would be stupid to.

Darth Sinister
07-19-2007, 02:59 AM
On the one hand, the Friday films are considered a black sheep of the Paramount archives. On the other hand, they still earn a profit off of it. I'm thinking that if they want to really earn a profit, they should invest some coin and make a kickass boxset. But they don't think logically and are being a tightass.

Utellme
09-15-2007, 08:31 AM
Blu ray would be a nice option also

Rich
09-15-2007, 02:00 PM
Blu ray would piss me off. I want a good dvd set. I don't want to have to buy a new machine yet.

Utellme
09-15-2007, 11:00 PM
I meant both Rich standard and Blu Ray im getting the ps3 in about 2 weeks so im ready to make the step up to Blu Ray.

NETRA
09-16-2007, 02:53 AM
Just having unrated cuts of all the movies would make me very happy. We know they have the cut footage for Part 7 and the director has ASKED to do an uncut version so there's certainly no excuse on that one. As for the others, it may be more difficult but surely there's a way (probably not a will though).

Some Paramount executive lady told Fangoria they might reissue the movies with the cut scenes intact "if this box set sells." That's just so silly to me. Why not do it for THIS release instead of waiting for the next? She said it's not intended to gouge the fans but I think it clearly is.

The Dream Master
09-16-2007, 05:54 AM
Paramount's an HD-DVD exclusive company now, so Friday the 13th is not coming to Blu-ray for at least a year and a half (when Parmount's deal supposedly ends).

Kane Lives
09-16-2007, 06:00 AM
I'm a sucker for commentaries. So, if they did release another set with them for Part 1, 2, 4, and 5; I admit I would probably double dip and buy it.

But, uncut versions of the films would be the thing that would make me want another set the most of course. I want to see TNB with the uncut footage restored. :cry:

The Dream Master
09-16-2007, 06:01 AM
I'd buy the theatrical cut versions in HD, but I wouldn't be absolutely thrilled about it. Still, the quality upgrade would be worth it, so I'd bite.

I don't think I have to worry about that happening anytime soon, though.

James M
09-16-2007, 06:08 PM
It'd be awesome if that Jason Takes Manhattan workprint were digitally restored and put on DVD. Even just the extra scenes as extras would be great.

Oh, and a seperate commentary on Part 2 with just Steve Dash and Warrington Gillette. ;)

sCabbOy
09-16-2007, 06:42 PM
What would Warrington say in the commentary?

"Well, how I would have done this scene if I were Jason for more than 11 seconds...."

Rich
09-16-2007, 07:32 PM
They would have to add Jerry Wallace (I think that was his name) to it too. Didn't he get credited for playing "The Prowler," which was all the POV stuff? Well, obviously when you have a POV shot the killer is played by the camera, but I am talking about when you see Jason's arm, like when he raises the branch to watch the car go by after the two guys remove the branch from the road, and all the noises that Jason makes when he's in the woods.

Utellme
09-16-2007, 07:50 PM
There was also a lady who played Jason in the opening scene in F13th part 2.

James M
09-16-2007, 08:48 PM
Steve: That was me... that was was me... this is me too...
Warrington: Steve, enough already!
Steve: Oh, this isn't me.
Warrington: See, I told you I did most of the movie!
Steve: That's Jerry Wallace.
Warrington: Well, whatever. Just wait until you see me kill Amy Steel.
Steve: :rolleyes:

Rich
09-16-2007, 09:59 PM
I have been saying this for years, but really, I think the original Friday the 13th deserves the same kind of two disc special edition treatment that A Nightmare on Elm Street, Halloween, and The Texas Chain Saw Massacre got.

I don't even care about another box set. I just want a satisfactory edition of the original film already, damnit!

sCabbOy
09-17-2007, 12:59 AM
Ellen Lutter only did the feet in the opening scene, Wallace the hands. Wallace also killed LAuren-Marie Taylor.

Rich
09-17-2007, 01:03 AM
So Jason in Friday the 13th Part 2 was played by almost as many people as Michael was in Halloween.

sCabbOy
09-17-2007, 01:06 AM
Not as much haha. I think there were 5-6 in Halloween?

4 in F13 2.

The Tall Man
09-17-2007, 04:46 AM
Rich, you'd think we'd at least get the uncut version special editon the Region 2 folks got... but nope.

T.M.

Rich
09-17-2007, 04:59 AM
Hell yeah and Paramount can not claim they don't have that footage because it is in their box set. They are just too damn lazy to remaster it back into the movie.

sCabbOy
09-17-2007, 06:23 AM
i think they dont want to use the resources to track it down is more accurate.

Sketch Sanchez
09-17-2007, 11:29 AM
Didnt someone offer to do all the tracking down for them...for free? I seem to remember hearing about that, and they turned him down.

Aside from what everyone else mentioned, I would like to see all the films get their own fucking discs and DVD cases inside the box set.

sCabbOy
09-17-2007, 06:58 PM
Im sure some people would. Don May Jr is the man to do that. He's the one who found the original camera positives for Texas Chainsaw Massacre while in the NLC vaults. Thing is, since F13 was a negative pick up when Georgetown Pictures are the ones cutting the film who's to say the cut scenes weren't discarded?

These scenes may no longer exist. I'm sure spending resources looking for these phantom reels may just be unnecessary. I know that Paramount was trying to contact the directors to see if they still have footage. That's what I read, not sure how true it is. I know at one point there was an uncut Part 2. The special effects team had it, Carl Fullerton would be the one to go to for that.

The Dream Master
09-17-2007, 08:52 PM
Don May did offer to do all of that for the first box set. It's a shame Paramount didn't take him up on the offer.

Rich
09-19-2007, 12:38 PM
scab, From what I understand John Carl Buechler offered them the unct Part 7 whole movie. All they had to do was digitally remaster it and they flat out refused.

Utellme
09-19-2007, 12:48 PM
Paramount refuse what a surprise

sCabbOy
09-19-2007, 07:07 PM
scab, From what I understand John Carl Buechler offered them the unct Part 7 whole movie. All they had to do was digitally remaster it and they flat out refused.

Didn't they refuse because it would have taken 10 grand to remaster it and they were out of money for the project? I heard this as well. JCB's workprint is very bad quality and I'm sure it would be a HUGE costly task to remaster it.

Darth Sinister
09-19-2007, 10:14 PM
That's probably part of it, but simply put, they weren't going to do that for any copy of the film. Now, if something changes where sales double what they normally are, I can imagine them shelling out the money. Be it a remake or a sequel that does better than the last three films combined.

The Tall Man
09-19-2007, 11:14 PM
Didn't they refuse because it would have taken 10 grand to remaster it and they were out of money for the project? I heard this as well. JCB's workprint is very bad quality and I'm sure it would be a HUGE costly task to remaster it.
Buechler HAD to have an actual print of the uncut version (say, in cans from 1988). A VHS workprint just isn't going to cut it. You can't remaster those for DVD.

T.M.

sCabbOy
09-20-2007, 04:11 AM
Buechler HAD to have an actual print of the uncut version (say, in cans from 1988). A VHS workprint just isn't going to cut it. You can't remaster those for DVD.

T.M.

Well, technically you can remaster a VHS print, but it won't be nearly as nice as a 35mm print. Well, let's say you can "clean up" a VHS print I don;t know if that classifies as remastering, but it can be cleaned up.

I'm sure it still wouldn't be DVD worthy.

I was always under the impression that JCB only had a VHS copy, but who knows?

The Dream Master
09-20-2007, 04:14 AM
I'm pretty sure JCB himself has confirmed that he only has a VHS copy, which can't be properly "remastered" like a negative (or film print) could be (it could theoretically be cleaned up, I guess, but I don't think it'd do much good).

The O-Negs for the film are sitting in a can somewhere in Paramount's vaults.

sCabbOy
09-20-2007, 06:44 PM
I still say the positives (which is the original 35mm film that came out of the camera) were probably destroyed or discarded. When .5 seconds is clipped from a movie, I really don't see them keeping it seeing it will only be 15 frames (about a foot long) of film. That can easily be lost or thrown away.

It happens with so many movies- listen to commentaries "this scene was cut, we threw away the negatives.. blahblahblah".

I am just pessimistic when it comes to negative pick ups and the "mother" production company getting ahold of every last frame clipped from movies. When a small production company makes a movie and then are forced to clip scenes, I think their primary goal is to obtain an R rating not saved these frames for an SE when back in those days seeing cut footage was almost unprecedented.

The Dream Master
09-21-2007, 12:21 AM
Well, yeah, that's possible. I don't know for sure that the original negatives are sitting in Paramount's vaults somewhere. It's entirely possible that the cut scenes were just discarded at some point. Then again, that Halloween footage was found after all those years, so who knows?

sCabbOy
09-21-2007, 05:00 PM
Well, yeah, that's possible. I don't know for sure that the original negatives are sitting in Paramount's vaults somewhere. It's entirely possible that the cut scenes were just discarded at some point. Then again, that Halloween footage was found after all those years, so who knows?

Halloween negatives were found on accident like the TCM's negatives/ Don May was looking for the negatives for ANOES when he stumbled over an unmarked paper bag with the TCM negatives.

He also mentioned that storing negatives is very expensive because they have to be in climate controlled vaults. He said that a lot of these studios throw away or sell negatives of older movies to make room for newer ones. He mentioned finding the original film positives in a dumpster for an old Steve McQueen movie.... so, they could have been in their vaults and thrown away.

Who knows they may be in a tool shed or attic on Boston rotting away.

Rich
09-27-2007, 06:19 PM
Personally I would not mind having a lower quality print of Friday 7 as long as it is Buechler's director cut. That would be cool. It would be nice if Paramount released a two disc edition, or a double feature single disc edition, with both the theatrical version (for quality purposes) and John's director cut version (for the cut scenes in the entire movie puroses). Of course that will not happen in a million years. Then again, if they go and re-release the entire series as double features, being slready started with the first two, when it comes to parts 7 and 8, I say fuck part 8, just make it two versions of part 7. I'd be happy. :)

sCabbOy
09-28-2007, 12:51 AM
I'd rather it just leak and we DL it.

The Dream Master
09-28-2007, 12:55 AM
Come on, how would that look? The fanbase complains and complains about an uncut version of TNB for years, and, once they get it, they illegally download it? That'd be no way to support it.

sCabbOy
09-28-2007, 12:59 AM
Well, seeing that I'm more likely to sprout boobs than it would be likely that Paramount releases it, I say YES I hope it surfaces. I mean... I like workprints- I collect them like Creepshow, NOTGLD, ROTLD, H6, F13th 5, and so n. So be it.

The Dream Master
09-28-2007, 01:01 AM
Oh, you mean a workprint--I see. Yeah, that'd be different, I guess.

Deathscythe
09-28-2007, 01:04 AM
Whats the difference in the A New Beginning workprint?

sCabbOy
09-28-2007, 01:06 AM
Oh, you mean a workprint--I see. Yeah, that'd be different, I guess.

Yep, not an uncut version.

The Part 5 workprint basically has different dialog, and a scene is shot from a different angle, Tinas nude lay is longer, and small thing slike that.

Antonynz
09-28-2007, 08:48 PM
I do not own any friday the 13th film and will never buy one intill they realease it uncut..
Im not paying for a movie when half of its cut out..

The Tall Man
09-28-2007, 11:36 PM
"Half"? You're missing seconds-worth of footage at most. And a release print is a release print. You're getting 100& of the movie. On television when the movies are cut you'd be missing part of the movie. But the point is, at least you're getting 99% of the movie.

T.M.

sCabbOy
09-29-2007, 01:20 AM
Some of the F13th movies have barely anything cut out. Par 1, a accumulated 3-4 seconds? Part 2, probably the same, 3 barely anything, 4 probably 5-6 seconds, 5 5-10 seconds perhaps...

If a movie has to rely on excessive blood to be 'good' then it;s a shitty movie. The F13th movies (all of them) hold up the way they were released.

Antonynz
09-29-2007, 02:18 AM
Sorry no way. There are countless death scenes that were edited badly.
Im going too look for the cuts, take a look.

Ok heres Part 1.

The following scenes were cut in order to avoid an "X" rating from the MPAA:
Annie's death was a little bit longer. It showed more blood come out of her throat after it was slit.
Jack's death was originally longer. There was an shot of Jack from a top view. In this shot, the arrow in Jack's throat turns, causing much more blood to shoot straight at the camera, and also in his mouth.
Marcie's death was a little longer. Originally, the axe hits her in the face and she slides all of the way down to the floor.
Mrs. Voorhees' death was actually longer. It took her a little longer to fall down and blood was squirting out of her cut neck.
A scene showing Claudette's death was filmed, but then left out of the final cut. Claudette was actually knifed in the neck.


ok look, the website i get my facts from his closed so ill work on the top of my head.
Part 1 2 and 3 were giving a little cuts, not many.
4 had a little not much.
Same with 5 and 6.
They were cut just a little bit.

All of these were all cut. Mainly the best deaths.


http://www.angelfire.com/movies/jasonuncut/


Part 7 will allways remain stupid for this. I remeber watching with my brother when we were renting them out and saying " man.. all the death scenes were so edited....)
This move is one of the least violent fridays so far.
But in fact it is THE MOST VIOLENT!
When Jason was a stupid 80s icon they wanted every one too see the movie with a bloody 15M rating!!

Jason Takes Manhattan.. all the death scenes are completly gone.. all of them.

Jason goes to hell, most of the death scenes are gone.
(including one of the most violent death scenes of all time. The part when they are having sex in the tent..
CUT!

Look i like the friday the 13th series. They are fun.
But i want too see the movie they way the director wanted me too.

Rich
09-29-2007, 02:28 AM
Everything you list adds up to no more then ten seconds of footage time.

sCabbOy
09-29-2007, 02:40 AM
In part 1, I own the uncut DVD and all of the deaths have like an extra .5-1 second except maybe Mrs V's death which has like an extra 2 seconds.

But, man you don't get much. Annie's death you see her for an extra half second, Jack's you see him from another POV with a spray of blood, Marcies you see her a second longer... we're not missing much and to tell you the truth for someone who knows no different they would not even notice.

In Part 2, Im sure theres more but The Cop's death was shot from a different POV and you see he impact, Mark's death was a bit longer, you see the spear enter with the two in the bed....

Part 3 Chuck's death was longer. But if the extra scene with Abel was shot it would be worth it for that.

Part 4, longer deaths here and there, Axel's, the Hitchiker's...

Part 5 uncut would be the one I;d want to see because it suffered so much, but all in all I could care less.

The Tall Man
09-29-2007, 03:26 AM
And JGTH is actually available unrated.

Yeah, again, what you're describing is seconds' worth of footage. If the movie HAS to have that stuff in there to garner attention, it's no good to begin with.

T.M.

Rich
09-29-2007, 03:35 AM
Jason Goes to Hell is probably the only movie that having it uncut truely makes it better. You get more gore and nude stuff. It is all eye candy, no story, but it does make it more enjoyable. The rest of the movies cut out seconds. JGTH is probably the only one that has cut out close to a minute or maybe a little more.

MaDMaNMaRz
09-29-2007, 05:06 AM
I actually prefer the cut version of Jack's death. I didn't like the overhead view as much.

Rich
09-29-2007, 06:08 PM
The overhead view looked too fake.

sCabbOy
09-29-2007, 09:51 PM
It did, you could see that Kevin was sitting weird.

NETRA
09-29-2007, 11:46 PM
But the blood shooting into his mouth was so disgusting that it made me squirm a bit. I dunno way though. I guess when you are getting impaled through the neck, getting blood in your mouth would be the least of your problems. Yet it made me uneasy.

Utellme
10-16-2007, 11:17 PM
Of course Commentarys, Deleted and cut scenes we all want.

But what are some other things you would like to see on a 2nd edition box set ?

sCabbOy
10-17-2007, 12:05 AM
I'd want uncut, but that will never happen. Commentaries for all of the movies, and an SFX featurette (like 1,4,7) for all of them

Joshg
10-17-2007, 02:13 AM
I they should redo the Part V featurette. You know, where they talk about the films, with little clips accompanied. I liked them all, but Part V's. Only the beginning and the barnyard attack were really covered. What a dissapointment. I wonder how much one Friday the 13th would go for?

Take a guess peoples...how much would Paramount sell for Part VIII?
1, 000, 000?
500, 000?
100, 000?
50, 000?

By this point, I don't think I care which one gets uncut. As long as it's one of them. Like, one a year would take a while, but if I know they'll do it, then sure!

I too dislike the overview of Jack's death.

Patrick
10-27-2007, 09:45 PM
Yea it would great to have one or all of them uncut. I would be ecstatic over a 3-D version of Part 3 on DVD. That would make me VERY happy. I wonder why, besides the fact that Paramount sucks when it comes to the treatment of these films, why they can't see the potential it has. I mean, it is being shown pretty much every year SOMEWHERE in 3-D and always sells out.

sCabbOy
10-27-2007, 11:15 PM
You can get Part 3 in #D on DVD, of course it's not official but theres a place that sells a 2 DVD box of it in 3-D. One DVD is the standard (red and blue glasses) and the other is digital 3D (need the electronic FS glasses).

Part 1 is also avail uncut in other regions.

Patrick
10-28-2007, 12:56 AM
Oh I forgot to mention I have the part 1 Warner Brothers Region 3 version. I love it. the quality is excellent and great interviews.

Where can I get one of those 3-D versions you are talking about.....on eBay? I have seen some on eBay before, but wasn't sure about the validity and quality of the actual dvd. Do you have one and if so, do you like the quality of the transfer?

sCabbOy
10-28-2007, 01:15 AM
check eBay, sometimes they are up. I can't post links on here in forums or PM so that's all I can say.

Patrick
10-28-2007, 08:05 PM
Ok, cool. It's sad that we don't already have a legitimate version from Paramount. I wonder if New Line Cinema didn't WANT the rights of the original films or Paramount wouldn't sell them. Wish I knew.....and too bad NLC doesn't own the originals...they could re-release all of them themselves...and probably do a helluva job.

sCabbOy
10-28-2007, 08:20 PM
The price is probably too high for NLC to buy and still make a good profit from or Paramount simply won't sell. I am sure NLC has tried to acquire them at one time.

The Dream Master
10-29-2007, 04:37 AM
Considering that Paramount was asking way too much just for footage to be used in FvJ, I'm guessing that the entire films are well out of NLC's price range.

The Tall Man
10-29-2007, 05:10 AM
DM, for JX too.

T.M.

Deathscythe
10-29-2007, 05:11 AM
Why would they want archive footage for JX anyway?

The Tall Man
10-29-2007, 06:38 PM
Opening titles as Todd wrote them were stock footage from the previous 9 movies.

T.M.

Rich
11-06-2007, 06:31 PM
Considering that Paramount was asking way too much just for footage to be used in FvJ, I'm guessing that the entire films are well out of NLC's price range.

That is a shame because in the novel they mention Jason's shack and everything. It would have made the movie much better to have added Friday backstory.

sCabbOy
11-06-2007, 08:05 PM
When it comes to buying stock footage from the old films, you have to consider that the budget of Jason X had a part in that. It's stupid to buy stock footage that may cost millions for a movie with a 13 mil budget... it would take way too much of the budget. That doesn't mean that the price is outrageous.

Cody
02-18-2008, 04:32 PM
"Super box set" rumor (http://www.dreadcentral.com/node/26179)

The next rumored box set might just be a fanboy dream as opposed to actual reality; a real Friday the 13th box set to coincide with the February 19th, 2009 release of the remake.

According to various scoopers, this rumored set will include every single Friday film, from the original to Freddy Vs. Jason.

The reasons this is likely more dream than reality have to do with Paramount’s unwillingness to part with their original 8 films, despite the shoddy treatment they gave them with the first box set, and the fact that New Line, who own the latest three, may soon be history all together.

Of course, stranger things have happened ... though I’ll be damned if I can think of any right now. For now we’ll do some digging and see what we can find, always hoping that eventually this box set will get done, packed with features and all the uncut films, so we can check off another “must have” from our DVD list.

francesco
02-18-2008, 05:03 PM
sounds impossible but it could be cool!

nottidelterrore
02-18-2008, 05:11 PM
That would be sweet if it really happened but I doubt it will.

Utellme
02-18-2008, 07:20 PM
Even if was a box set for just the first 8 with uncut everything commentarys etc,etc.


I can deal with the extras i get on JGTH AND JX.All though i would not mind seeing a Ultimate Edition JGTH with Tv scenes,deleted scenes.Same goes for JX.

The Dream Master
02-18-2008, 10:28 PM
Well, this is just about the most unexpected news I've ever heard. I never expected us to get another box set period, much less one that includes ever film. I'm betting that if this happens, it probably has something to do with the fact that New Line and Paramount are teaming up for the new film. Still, I'll believe it when I see it.

Kane Lives
02-18-2008, 10:38 PM
That would indeed be cool if it did actually happen. However, the only thing that would probably make me to double dip for another box set would be if they gave a better treatment to some of the earlier Paramount Jason films than they did in the original one. A few more commentaries at least.

The Dream Master
02-18-2008, 10:40 PM
The only way I'm buying it will be if all the Paramount films are uncut. No amount of special features will get me to buy them for a third time.

I would, however, buy the theatrical versions again if they're in HD, and seeing as how the format war will be long over by the time this is released, a Blu-ray release won't be out of the question.

kramerfan
02-19-2008, 05:32 AM
I pray this is true.Uncut films,commentaries for 1,2,4,5.Anymore trailers,tv spots,radio spots,all new interviews with even more cast,crew,directors added to what was already done.Behind the scenes footage.

skuppy
02-19-2008, 06:12 AM
I suspect if a new boxset does arrive, it'd just be a simple repackaging of all the movies. I'm really surprised New Line hasn't put their own "Jason" boxset together.

Speck
02-19-2008, 10:26 AM
I'd like to see a documentary DVD released on the making of all the films that go into greater detail.

Jigsaw
02-19-2008, 10:49 AM
I hope this is true. I hope we get all of the films uncut and with behind-the-scenes footage for all of them.

kramerfan
02-19-2008, 09:53 PM
I hope so too Jigsaw.

Ron
02-19-2008, 11:34 PM
I suspect if a new boxset does arrive, it'd just be a simple repackaging of all the movies. I'm really surprised New Line hasn't put their own "Jason" boxset together.

I've thought the same thing..I'm sure we'll see one eventually.

MaDMaNMaRz
02-19-2008, 11:46 PM
I won't get my hopes up quite now, but I really hope this is released.

Spade
02-20-2008, 12:21 AM
I'd buy a new set in a heartbeat.

ChoKo
02-20-2008, 12:27 AM
I'd buy a new set, too. I'm a nerd; I have to have everything related to these films.

Jigsaw
02-20-2008, 12:28 AM
It'd be the coolest thing to get an F13 boxed set that's like the Alien Quadrilogy; each film gets it's own 2-disc SE, you have the option of viewing the theatrical or unrated cuts and there's 3+ hour making-of featurettes for each film with tons of behind-the-scenes footage. Also a bonus disc with several hours worth of special features covering the entire series.

MaDMaNMaRz
02-20-2008, 12:59 AM
Speaking of the Alien Quadrilogy set...i've had mine for a long time, and I still haven't watched any of the discs, lol.

Jigsaw
02-20-2008, 01:02 AM
Make sure you set aside at least three weeks for it, that's about the length it took me to go through everything on it.

nottidelterrore
02-20-2008, 01:49 AM
It'd be the coolest thing to get an F13 boxed set that's like the Alien Quadrilogy; each film gets it's own 2-disc SE, you have the option of viewing the theatrical or unrated cuts and there's 3+ hour making-of featurettes for each film with tons of behind-the-scenes footage. Also a bonus disc with several hours worth of special features covering the entire series.

That'd be an awesome idea. That would be a big freaking set though. But still, a very good idea.

MaDMaNMaRz
02-20-2008, 01:53 AM
I agree that it's a great idea, but I honestly don't see anything like that happening.

Jigsaw
02-20-2008, 07:12 AM
It might be a good idea to save up for it in advance, because you know if an Alien Quadrilogy-esque set ever got released for the entire F13 series or at least the Paramount films, you know it'd be pricey as Hell. Nearly 20 discs. It'd sure be worth it, though.

kramerfan
02-20-2008, 08:52 AM
What all do you all think they would add to this box set other than say uncut films?What else could they add?

Jigsaw
02-20-2008, 08:57 AM
Behind-the-scenes and on-set footage, make-up tests, screen tests and audition footage, retrospective documentaries and featurettes, concept art, etc.

ChoKo
02-20-2008, 08:59 AM
I'd like to see commentaries on Part 2 and TFC; which we didn't get for the first box set.

Jigsaw
02-20-2008, 09:00 AM
I'd like to have a Jason actors commentary for all of the films, with every actor who's played Jason to get together for a group track. That'd be a lot of fun to listen to.

MaDMaNMaRz
02-20-2008, 09:04 AM
As long as their uncut, it honestly wouldn't matter to me if they had any features or not.

skuppy
02-20-2008, 09:11 AM
I think some of you jump to the conclusion that uncut prints still exist. Yeah, some of the footage is there, but I doubt every film has it's uncut scenes still stored away somewhere. I also doubt we'd ever get two disc treatments for each film. I doubt there really is that much footage. These aren't modern films that had camera men recording all the behind-the-scenes stuff. They were quickly made slasher films. I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade, but lets be realistic.

Jigsaw
02-20-2008, 09:18 AM
I'm well-aware that the chances of uncut prints and BTS footage for every film existing isn't high, but it doesn't hurt to hope and cling to the possibility that at least some of the films may have such materials existing. Anything and everything that can be uncovered pertaining to the films is appreciated and wanted.

DRE
02-20-2008, 09:33 AM
I think some of you jump to the conclusion that uncut prints still exist. Yeah, some of the footage is there, but I doubt every film has it's uncut scenes still stored away somewhere.


I said this in the New Blood thread and I will repeat it here now.


I will not believe any of that until someone officially goes into that huge Paramount vault and search for everything related to the Friday the 13th series (as Don May Jr of Synapse Films freely offered to do, but Martin Blythe of Paramount Home Entertainment declined.)

I know there's material from the films in that vault, possibly mislabeled, as is the case with much of the unearthed "lost" footage people are finding these days.

Jigsaw
02-20-2008, 09:37 AM
Exactly, Dre. Those are my same sentiments. Maybe BTS footage doesn't exist for every film in the series, nor may uncut prints of all of them exist, but at the very least, we may find something that's of use in the vaults, and all Paramount has to do is look through them before jumping to the conclusion that they have nothing.

Lance Lives
02-20-2008, 09:44 PM
I'd say there is stuff available to make a great Behind the Scenes disc, but I highly doubt there's enough for a Quadrilogy-Esque 2 Disc edition of every film. Like somebody said, there probably wasn't anybody running around filming stuff behind the scenes, I know Savini is into that, but I couldn't say if there was on any other film. Nobody was thinking about that stuff back then I doubt, and if any does exist it's just personal stuff that would be next to impossible to track down.

Jigsaw
02-21-2008, 12:56 AM
If any BTS or on-set footage shot by some of the crew members exists, Paramount executives would probably have to get in contact with said crew members to copy the footage and send the copy to them to add to the disc as a supplement.

Cody
08-07-2008, 09:46 PM
Paramount Planning NEW Friday the 13th Box Set! (http://www.dreadcentral.com/story/exclusive-paramount-planning-new-friday-13th-box-set)

Our man Andrew Kasch just called in with some very good news for you Friday the 13th freaks out there...

There has been speculation since the Friday the 13th remake came to life again that perhaps Paramount would go back and give us a decent F13 box set. Well, an inside source confirmed for us today that that’s exactly what’s going down! Paramount is working on a brand new, revamped Friday the 13th box set that will hopefully put their first attempt to shame.

No word on any of the features yet, but we do know that there is a lot being planned. Of course the goal is to have it done in time for the remake’s release on February 13th, 2009, but only time will tell if that mark is hit.

The Dream Master
08-07-2008, 09:50 PM
Cool news, but I have no idea what to expect here. I mean, I'm pretty sure the uncut films are out of the question unless they've uncovered them recently (if they even exist at all, which is doubtful). I don't think there's enough time to start looking for them now and send them through the remastering process. Then again, I have a feeling we'll be seeing this release around the time of the new film's DVD release instead of its theatrical release, so who knows?

You know what would be really doep for me? If they gave us the original video art for 5-8. As far as special features go, I have no idea what more would satisfy me. More stuff for the lesser-covered entries on the last set would be nice, I guess.

Just Jeans
08-07-2008, 09:58 PM
Oh for fecks sake, I just got the original set six months ago! :banghead:

Oh well. If there's a better transfer of the third film on the set and 5.1 audio on all the films, I'll be happy.

The Dream Master
08-07-2008, 10:01 PM
5.1 tracks for the first five films would just be a glorified mono track anyway. It's a bit like trying to squeeze blood from a stone.

Remastered audio/video would be nice because that might mean a Blu-ray release. :eek:

Just Jeans
08-07-2008, 10:06 PM
The 5.1 track for The Good, the Bad and the Ugly certainly wasn't a glorified mono track. I don't know why it would have to be that way for these either.

The Dream Master
08-07-2008, 10:11 PM
If I'm not mistaken, that 5.1 track had a lot of alterations made to it to fill out the surround landscape.

Plus, that movie kind of lends itself well to a surround track. I can't really see what could be done with the early Friday the 13th films besides displacing some music and sound effects (like thunder) into the rears because these films don't have the most dynamic sound design in the world. Even then, it'd probably sound gimmicky, like the Nightmare surround remix did. I don't care if they remix them in 5.1, but I hope the mono is retained.

Just Jeans
08-07-2008, 10:19 PM
I lost my taste for mono tracks when I got my surround sound. They don't sound good on my system. I have to force it into stereo, otherwise all the sound comes through my center channel, and that speaker really doesn't like having everything forced through it at once.

The Dream Master
08-07-2008, 10:22 PM
I prefer 2.0 mono tracks myself. They sound a bit more full; usually, 1.0 mono tracks require you to turn up your receiver a bit more. Even they can sound good through a really good system though.

DRE
08-07-2008, 10:29 PM
I hope they give us something that stands up to the Matrix Collection or the Superman Ultimate set, hell I'll go one better, the Alien Quadrilogy! Just give us something comprehensive and cool.

The 5th Golden Girl
08-07-2008, 10:30 PM
Is it possible since Paramount and New Line joined forces for the remake, they will join forces for this box set and release a complete box set from 1 to FvJ?

Or am I completely wrong about Paramount and New Line joining forces?

Jigsaw
08-07-2008, 10:31 PM
Awesome news. Hopefully this time Paramount will go all-out and give each of the first eight films the SE treatment and give us an Alien Quadrilogy-esque set. It's been long overdue.

Besides having a movie ticket for February 13th, I know what else I'm saving up for :cool:

The Dream Master
08-07-2008, 10:33 PM
5th, they did join forces on the new movie, and there were rumblings that they might cooperate on a comprehensive box set. We'll see, I guess.

Added:

Cody posted this earlier in this thread:

The next rumored box set might just be a fanboy dream as opposed to actual reality; a real Friday the 13th box set to coincide with the February 19th, 2009 release of the remake.

According to various scoopers, this rumored set will include every single Friday film, from the original to Freddy Vs. Jason.

The reasons this is likely more dream than reality have to do with Paramount’s unwillingness to part with their original 8 films, despite the shoddy treatment they gave them with the first box set, and the fact that New Line, who own the latest three, may soon be history all together.

Of course, stranger things have happened ... though I’ll be damned if I can think of any right now. For now we’ll do some digging and see what we can find, always hoping that eventually this box set will get done, packed with features and all the uncut films, so we can check off another “must have” from our DVD list.

Sean [The Wildcard]
08-07-2008, 10:50 PM
Is it sad, that even though I have the Bare bones DVDs as well as the first Box Set...that I would definitely pick this up too?


Yeah...that IS pretty sad.

:duh:

Jigsaw
08-07-2008, 10:53 PM
If the new boxed set ports over all of the special features from the old one, I'll pawn the old one off and use some of the money from it towards the new set.

Chex
08-07-2008, 10:55 PM
Oh for fecks sake, I just got the original set six months ago!

I was planning on finally purchasing it next month. What'll happen is that this new set will have bonus features such as commentaries, etc that the old set doesn't which means I'll break down and have to get both. :(

This is why I applaud Robbie E for his sales approach: One type of set is the standard. Sure, he may sell them out of his car, but you know he's not going to make a new "version" or anything. If you're lucky you may even get an autographed tire iron from the trunk as well.

Sean [The Wildcard]
08-07-2008, 11:00 PM
I might as well end up selling the first box set if the second one is better than the first.

That's only if they take all the special features from the first set and put them onto the second set, including new features.

If not...I guess I'm going to have to deal with having SO many copies of these films.

Just Jeans
08-07-2008, 11:03 PM
Is Robbie E the one flogging (no sick pun intended, I assure you) the hawt Atkins porn? :X

Jigsaw
08-07-2008, 11:04 PM
It'd be stupid not to port over the old special features and include them alongside the brand new batch. That's the reason I've held onto all of my Saw DVDs, since the SEs never ported over the features on the initial releases (as well as made some annoying changes in the usually superior unrated cuts).

Just Jeans
08-07-2008, 11:05 PM
It'd be stupid not to port over the old special features and include them alongside the brand new batch.

Actually, it's quite smart. That's how the studio assures we hardcore type fork out the cash for more than one version.

Very smart indeed.

Jigsaw
08-07-2008, 11:09 PM
It's stupid because the consumer, who are the people who plump money into the studio in the first place, has to shell over more cash to get a different DVD edition of the same movie that doesn't even port anything over in addition to the new material.

Chex
08-07-2008, 11:19 PM
Actually, it's quite smart. That's how the studio assures we hardcore type fork out the cash for more than one version.

Very smart indeed.

Bingo. Not porting them means the old box sets could still sell somewhat. If the new box sets contain everything the old ones have, well, sales would drastically plummet further than what they could.

Is Robbie E the one flogging (no sick pun intended, I assure you) the hawt Atkins porn?

Why would Englund have some porno of Atkins? That's just sick.
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It's stupid because the consumer, who are the people who plump money into the studio in the first place, has to shell over more cash to get a different DVD edition of the same movie that doesn't even port anything over in addition to the new material.

Stupid from a consumer's view. From a studio, marketing, and sale's view is the smart path.

Sean [The Wildcard]
08-07-2008, 11:21 PM
Why would Englund have some porno of Atkins? That's just sick.



Why Not?

;)

Just Jeans
08-07-2008, 11:21 PM
Why would Englund have some porno of Atkins? That's just sick.

Dude tried flogging Taken bootlegs to a Canadian interviewer -- his car boot is absolutely teeming with wackyness.

Esten
08-07-2008, 11:22 PM
Why would Englund have some porno of Atkins? That's just sick.

Where do you think "Name's Buck, and I'm here to fuck." came from? yeah.

Sean [The Wildcard]
08-07-2008, 11:28 PM
Where do you think "Name's Buck, and I'm here to fuck." came from? yeah.

The man makes a VERY good point.

:p

The Dream Master
08-07-2008, 11:31 PM
After witnessing his pal Englund's frustrated, unfulfilled quest for anal sex, Atkins lent him a tape that allowed him to learn from the master of seduction. Rumor has it that it's just a bootleg copy of Halloween III.

Chex
08-07-2008, 11:42 PM
I think talking about Atkins and Englund are funny seeing as how Atkins is signed up to play the big baddie in the upcoming remake.

The Dream Master
08-07-2008, 11:45 PM
I hear he's going to seduce kids into his truck with Miller High Life flavored ice cream.

Jason's Storm
08-07-2008, 11:55 PM
I hope they digitally remaster them, but that would probably take a while for them to do that. Putting them on Blu-Ray, would be a bonus too.

~JS

The Dream Master
08-07-2008, 11:59 PM
It's possible these got new transfers. I mean, the old ones are several years old, and if Paramount decided they were going ahead with this release a few months ago, I would think that leaves plenty of time for new transfers. If it's going to get a BD release, I'm willing to bet that they'll need new transfers; I doubt the original DVDs are from a high def master.

Chex
08-08-2008, 12:00 AM
I hope they digitally remaster them, but that would probably take a while for them to do that. Putting them on Blu-Ray, would be a bonus too.

Stop being off topic. This is about Atkins.

After witnessing his pal Englund's frustrated, unfulfilled quest for anal sex, Atkins lent him a tape that allowed him to learn from the master of seduction. Rumor has it that it's just a bootleg copy of Halloween III.

This is today's greatest post right here, folks. :)

I hear he's going to seduce kids into his truck with Miller High Life flavored ice cream.

That's what I heard. Eventually the parents decide to take justice in their own hands as an ex air force father shoots him while flying in a helicopter right before the cops are able to arrest him.

What I think's interesting is that Bloody-Disgusting managed to get the scoop for this film sometime back. Everyone thought the name "Kreddy" was a typo, but it obviously wasn't. I mean, the K and F aren't even close to each other. Somehow, they knew that A Nightmare On Elm Street remake would star Tom Atkins as Kreddy, the miller drinking, pants off seducing ice cream vendor.

Duke Nukeum
08-08-2008, 12:07 AM
Is it sad, that even though I have the Bare bones DVDs as well as the first Box Set...that I would definitely pick this up too?


Yeah...that IS pretty sad.

:duh:

That makes two of us.:doh: I'll probly end up doing the same thing as well. I have both the bare bones and boxset as well. I can here my Dad now talking about how I spend too much money and I am wasteing it again by getting something I already have.:mad: But oh well. It never seases to amaze me though how many times boxsets are rerelased. Kinda reminds me of the first 3 Rambo's they had the bare bones set from 99 and then they released a set back in 03 or whever that was and then again about two years ago. When does it end. Lol. Oh well it is worth it in the long run if you are a huge fan of a series especially in our case being hard core Friday fans and all. Lets just hope we are lucky enough to have it loaded with tons of bonus features and it has the old extras on it as well as dozens more extras that weren't on the last set and uncut Friday's. It would be really nice to see an uncut part 7 for sure and I would love to see and uncut part 8 with the boxers original death of the darts through the eyes that is pictured constantly and would like to see part 4 uncut since there is that mention of that scene where the mother rises out of the tub as a zombie in Trish's nightmare when she is in the hospital at the end and Jeff and Sandra's full death scene with the overhead shot of the spear going in. But I guess with our luck pigs will fly before that happens:cry: But I guess all we can do is wait and see. Let's just hope there idea of new features isn't just one feature or two as opposed to dozens like in the Alien set or the Terminator 2 Ultimate DVD. And like it was mentioned it would be nice to have the old covers back for 5 on up. Even though alot of people would disagree but I really liked part 5's VHS cover. Even though the mask was way off I thought that was cool the eyes glowing red looking real evil.

"It's Locked. And I'm An Ass Kicker Not A Safe Cracker!" Duke Nukeum:cool:

Jigsaw
08-08-2008, 01:04 AM
It'd be nice if for this new set, they use the theatrical poster art for the DVD covers. They did with the first four but dropped it with Parts 5-8.

The Dream Master
08-08-2008, 01:24 AM
If they go back to the original art, it'll be interesting to see what they do with part 5 because the video art wasn't the theatrical poster like the other films. For nostalgia's sake, I hope they go with the video art.

Jigsaw
08-08-2008, 01:27 AM
I'd be fine with either ANB cover or poster being used as the new cover art.

The Dream Master
08-08-2008, 01:29 AM
Knowing Paramount, we'll get a picture of Jason from part 2 with Roy's mask photoshopped in place of the sack. :X

Jigsaw
08-08-2008, 01:35 AM
Wouldn't surprise me :X

Brett H.
08-08-2008, 01:40 AM
I remember the last time a box set was announced, the pictures Wes and I made went something like this. No, it went exactly like this:

http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/5551/f13setsi3.jpghttp://img361.imageshack.us/img361/7691/brentwoodjq0.jpg

The problem? Today Brentwood makes amazing DVDs. Boy, how time changes things!

o mang de nostaljia dere

The Dream Master
08-08-2008, 01:41 AM
I'm guesing those Brentwood releases would have had all ten flicks on two discs? :X

nottidelterrore
08-08-2008, 01:57 AM
I'll definitely pick this up. I had each individual DVD but gave them all to my girlfriend but I still have the box set.

Brett H.
08-08-2008, 02:04 AM
I'm guesing those Brentwood releases would have had all ten flicks on two discs? :X

Actually, Brentwood was classy. Unlike Mill Creek and Platinum, Brentwood released their movies on double sided discs, one movie on each side. There are double sided 5 discs in their 10 movie sets and they came in hard keepcases that still broke. Well 2/3 of mine did anyways. The ones I got in the mail always did.

Jason's Storm
08-08-2008, 02:21 AM
Stop being off topic. This is about Atkins
Quit jerking off to Tom Atkins>:-o. And distributing his naked pics.

~JS;)

MaDMaNMaRz
08-08-2008, 03:20 AM
I hear he's going to seduce kids into his truck with Miller High Life flavored ice cream.

LMAO! :lol:

It's Miller Time!

WesReviews
08-08-2008, 03:29 AM
Oh man...those pics bring back some memories, boo. :sniffle:

Here's another treat on this wave of nostalgia... the original Uncut Friday Part 7 petition started by Ricky F over at the Home Theater Forum! We managed to get 2900+ signatures. Not bad for an online petition. :o

http://www.petitiononline.com/UncutDVD/petition.html

I remember we targeted part 7 because it was the one that had allegedly been cut the most by Paramount and the MPAA and if released on its own uncut, would've likely sparked enough sales to convince Paramount to release the rest uncut. Oh man. it's all coming back now. hehe.

I wish I could find my old "Jason Vs. Paramount" banner that we used to promote the petition at online sites, but alas, I believe it has gone the way of the Dodo Bird. Lost to the sands of internet time. :(

Jason's Storm
08-08-2008, 03:30 AM
I hear he's going to seduce kids into his truck with Miller High Life flavored ice cream. Actually, Mike's Hard Lemonade flavored ice cream, is the choice for pedo pervs everywhere.

~JS

VoorheesGuy91
08-08-2008, 04:24 AM
All that I want are the movies Uncut...plain and simple.

sCabbOy
08-08-2008, 05:17 AM
Wel all know it will be the same shit, and no uncut movies.

Patrick
08-08-2008, 07:25 AM
This is great news! Until I hear otherwise, I am going to assume Paramount is finally going to give us fans something worthwile. And what would be the point of releasing the same boxset again? Nobody would buy it considering fans want uncut versions. The first boxset has been out for 4 years. Why would they re-release something like that that anyone who IS a fan already had?

Hopefully they will be on Blu-ray. And I would shit bricks if Part 3 is gonna be in 3-D.

kramerfan
08-08-2008, 08:05 AM
I just want uncut films and tons of new features.Give some attention to the films not covered in the first box set.

The Dream Master
08-08-2008, 08:09 AM
I've already braced myself for not getting the films uncut. Unless someone at Paramount just pulls them out of their asshole, I just don't see it happening. Don't get me wrong--I hope it does. I just don't expect it to.

Just Jeans
08-08-2008, 08:34 AM
If they go back to the original art, it'll be interesting to see what they do with part 5 because the video art wasn't the theatrical poster like the other films. For nostalgia's sake, I hope they go with the video art.

I want this as the cover:

http://www.hysteria-lives.co.uk/hysterialives/graphicsj/friday5cover.jpg

I dunno if that's the original poster, but it's the art I've always liked the best. It's my favorite image associated with the series.

The Dream Master
08-08-2008, 08:36 AM
I can't remember if that was an American poster or not, but it was a poster somewhere, I think. This is the poster I have for part 5:

http://pittsburghexpertpainting.com/MMDOTCOM/MOVIES/FridayThe13thV.jpg

And, for good measure, the video art:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/71ANXDNCTML._SL500_AA280_.gif

Esten
08-08-2008, 08:44 AM
The video art really is like a Brentwood set. :X

Just Jeans
08-08-2008, 08:55 AM
It's a shame that the "Tommy standing against the mask" poster wasn't used in America. I think it's the best poster in the series. It's definitely better than the frankly dreadful video art.

The Dream Master
08-08-2008, 08:56 AM
Guys, I don't know what you're seeing, but that video art rocks my socks. :X

Just Jeans
08-08-2008, 08:58 AM
Best fan made DVD sleeve ever:

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x124/f13thtribute/o_Friday_The_13th_Part_5_Custom.jpg

WOLF
08-08-2008, 05:48 PM
If all they did was create new transfers in Blu Ray, it would be worth it to me. I'm not expecting much from paramount at this point.

sCabbOy
08-08-2008, 06:31 PM
To get the prints, restore them, accumulate extras, restore them, and then build the DVDs would be a huge undertaking and not to mention expensive. Every re-release thus far from paramount have been the same thing, this will be as well.

I'd love different covers, but we all know we won't get them.

The Dream Master
08-08-2008, 08:18 PM
Well, to be fair, we have no idea how long they've been working on this. For all we know, the restorations and new transfers are in the can and ready to go. Am I absolutely expecting it? No, but I have a feeling that this release is going to at least offer something new. If the additions are substantial enough, I'll buy them; if not, the stand alone releases and the previous set will be enough for me. I have a feeling I won't buy this unless the movies are uncut (not going to happen), or if they release it on Blu-ray (slight possibility, as franchise collections are becoming more and more common on BD).

WOLF
08-08-2008, 08:36 PM
Paramount did do a fine job with the early transfers. They were barebones, but they did tend to get good reviews in the picture catagory. I recently read about the new Halloween set, and I won't be buying that. It seemed like an odd collection with a dumb mask, one blu ray disc, and a bunch of things that were already available.

The Dream Master
08-08-2008, 09:14 PM
Paramount did a great job with the old transfers; yeah, the print for part 3 has a lot of scratches and blemishes, but the actual transfer itself was fine. Those movies had no business looking as good as they did, and I can only imagine that new transfers (if we get them) will look even better.

sCabbOy
08-08-2008, 09:32 PM
I think we would have heard something... there are very vocal people out there like Don may Jr (famous film restorer) and Michael Felsher (famous "extras" producer) who would have certainly known about it and mentioned it. Both of them are very open to projects they are working on, or know IS being worked on.

But, yeah, who knows? I'd like to see pristine HD transfers, just to put these movies on BD is costly, and hopefully Paramount will someday invest in it or catalog the films to someone like Anchor Bay so they can do it.

The Dream Master
08-08-2008, 09:37 PM
Well, like I said yesterday, this isn't the first time we've heard about this. Cody made this post (http://www.f13-community.co.uk/board/showpost.php?p=117673&postcount=95) way back in February, so that would indicate that they have been working on this for some time now. If they have, I think that's an awful lot of planning just to basically give us the same exact thing. I'm still not expecing this to be an "ultimate" set, but I do think there will be something new.

And of course it's costly to put these on Blu-ray, but that hasn't stopped Paramount from releasing other movies on the format; besides, I'm sure it was pretty expensive to put them on DVD back in '99, yet, there they were. I wouldn't be surprised to at least see the first one on BD next year, but maybe we'll get the whole set as well. There aren't too many major releases this day that aren't getting simultaneous BD releases.

WOLF
08-08-2008, 09:46 PM
Arrow in the Head is reporting today:

Word on the street is that a lot is being planned. We’ll see!

sCabbOy
08-08-2008, 10:38 PM
Perhaps they are pulling a TCM and re-releasing an SE as "Ultimate" and adding ONE additional interview. Yes, there is another 2 disc TCM SE coming out... the only difference between it and the Dark Sky reelease is an additional interview with a producer.

VoorheesGuy91
08-09-2008, 12:52 AM
I have high hopes for this second edition box set (although some say that I shouldn't)! I would love to have a box set which features Part 1-Freddy vs. Jason. Not to mention 3-D glasses for Part 3!!!!

SlasherFreak
08-09-2008, 01:16 AM
To get the prints, restore them, accumulate extras, restore them, and then build the DVDs would be a huge undertaking and not to mention expensive. Every re-release thus far from paramount have been the same thing, this will be as well.

I'd love different covers, but we all know we won't get them.

I have to absolutely agree, 100% with you.

If Paramount has any little thing that was special in the friday series, they woulda cashed out on Freddy VS Jason hype...


...we're gonna get the same shit :(

Jigsaw
08-09-2008, 02:18 AM
If we can't get uncut prints, the least that can be done is for the studio to include whatever deleted footage they can find and include them as special features.

The Dream Master
08-09-2008, 02:29 AM
I have to absolutely agree, 100% with you.

If Paramount has any little thing that was special in the friday series, they woulda cashed out on Freddy VS Jason hype...


...we're gonna get the same shit :(

Actually, what's strange about the first set is that the FvJ hype was long gone. Paramount waited until a year after its theatrical release, yet they still half-assed it for the most part (I don't really think the original set is as bad as people make it out to be). There was absolutely no reason for them to rush it out because it's not like its release was coinciding with anything else; instead, here we are 4 years later with word of another set that will probably include things that could have been on the old one had Paramount taken their time with it.

Like I was saying earlier, I have no idea how long they've been working on it (it seems like it's been at least since around February), but I'd rather them just release this next year when the new film comes out on DVD. I suspect they will, because what would a comprehensive Paramount set be without the new film? I do think there will be enough substantial new material here that will make a lot of fans bite. For me personally, it's going to take a heck of a lot, simply because I don't know what kind of special features will justify me dropping another load of cash on these movies. I pretty much paid $45 for two special features discs the last time out (including the "Jason Forever" disc) because I already had the stand-alone releases.

Penhall
08-09-2008, 09:05 AM
I just cant get excited for this unless they are gonna be unrated. Or at least some of them unrated or partially unrated.

The deleted gore scenes on the last set from Jason Lives looked to be in great shape. And we all know Part 1 is available over-seas uncut. And you mean to tell me they have NOTHING at all from the other films? At least from maybe the later ones? I just dont buy it.

But hey, even if its just the same old heavily cut versions, I'll still be buying the damned thing!

Jigsaw
08-09-2008, 09:11 AM
Even if we don't get the uncut versions, more special features will make me buy the set. I'm hoping if making uncut prints is too much of a task for Paramount, at the very least they'll include whatever footage they can find and include them as special features.

DRE
08-09-2008, 09:13 AM
We also have to remember that Paramount has a hand in the new film, which is why I believe there is a better chance for something special than with the last box cashing in on Freddy vs. Jason.

Jigsaw
08-09-2008, 09:14 AM
I'm thinking that as well, Dre. Hopefully Paramount this time is on the same page as the fans.

VoorheesGuy91
08-09-2008, 02:41 PM
We also have to remember that Paramount has a hand in the new film, which is why I believe there is a better chance for something special than with the last box cashing in on Freddy vs. Jason.

My thoughts exactly :)

Chex
08-09-2008, 07:09 PM
I don't quite understand Paramount having a hand in this new film having any meaning for this new box set. The box set is simply to cash in on the buzz surrounding the name and the series. Why is this instance any different because Paramount has money involved in the remake?

Honestly, we've seen how Paramount treats the series as of the better past decade. Bare bones dvd's. Eventually it got to the point where a trailer was too much of an extra. Changing the cover art. They finally cashed in on a box set due to a recent new film and the buzz surrounding it. However, the box set was far from great. Some films gained extras, some didn't.

Expecting something as the "ultimate" box set is a dream that the odds are against given their track record. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if this box set's extras are simply for the films that the last one didn't receive.

Like I said, there's that very slim chance which will spark the dream of getting any and everything you can wish for. It's just realitie's odds are against it.

Now back to Tom Atkins...

Penhall
08-09-2008, 08:34 PM
The messed up thing is that even though I know we arent gonna get a single unrated film on this new set, I've still got my hopes up. :meh:

The 5th Golden Girl
08-09-2008, 09:00 PM
I've never been one to be all "I need the films unrated" and "I need all the cut scenes" or anything like that nor do I really pay attention to audio/visual transfers or whatever. As long as there is something different about this new box set, I'll probably get it.

I'd like some better documentaries on each film, and I'd love to see every film has audio commentary of some sorts. Maybe they'll do their own little "every death" video which just shows every death in the series in order.

DRE
08-09-2008, 09:42 PM
Martin Blythe is no longer at Paramount Home Video, and to be honest, it was more the constant hounding he received at the Home Theater Forum that made the boxset happen, FvsJ was just the validation PHV needed to go forward. That first boxset was put out there to shut people up and turn a few bucks their way from the new interest in Jason.

Now, four years later and with a new regime at the now Paramount Home Entertainment, a new film connected to the studio is coming and yes they will cash in, but if you've noticed in recent years they've put a bit more work into their releases (The new Indy discs, and the forthcoming new Godfather set), what's to say they won't go all out with this new Friday set?

It's easy to be cynical about what they will or won't do, because they've burned us in the past, but there is really no reason to believe they won't get it right this time.

sCabbOy
08-09-2008, 09:46 PM
The one reason why I doubt we will get the movies unrated is because Beuchler said he owns the ONLY uncut version and it's on VHS and horrible condition. Steinmann said everything cut from V was discarded and Miner said the same about Part 2 (don't know about 3). I highly doubt they will invest precious rescources on Part VII to clean it up when it probably won't sell enough copies to validate it.

We will probably get Part 1 uncut, more special features and commentaries and that's about it. Sorry, but I trust Steinmann, Beuchler and Miner when they say fiitage was tossed. You have to remember that paramount was not making those movies so they really had no say in what was tossed on the cutting room floor.

DRE
08-09-2008, 10:15 PM
I don't expect them to be uncut, but I can't exactly say I trust anyone when they say "There's nothing left." How many thought to be lost cuts of films older than Friday have just appeared from nowhere recently? Alternate endings of Halloween that no one knew existed and Carpenter "forgot" about. If these films were screened for the Paramount executives (More than likely before the MPAA cuts), how do we know that a copy of those prints didn't end up in the vaults mis-marked and lost somewhere?

Until Geraldo Rivera (Or at least Don May Jr) raids the Paramount vault and finds it as empty as Al Capone's, I will always believe there's a chance that some uncut versions of the films do exist.

johnboy3434
08-09-2008, 10:30 PM
I will only get this new set if:

1.) Any of the films receive the uncut treatment.
2.) Any new deleted scenes are presented.

Anything else I can live without.

Chex
08-09-2008, 10:46 PM
what's to say they won't go all out with this new Friday set?

It's easy to be cynical about what they will or won't do, because they've burned us in the past, but there is really no reason to believe they won't get it right this time.

On the contrary, there's nothing to say they will get it right until an announcement is made while we have past experiences with them showing that they've burned people in the past which creates the notion that this will be nothing different.

I'm not saying stop hoping for something great, but in my personal opinion, I don't see any reason why I should even believe that this will be the end all be all of a box set. Past showings and experiences are what we have to go by and with no announcement of what will happen, I don't see any reason to believe this set will be a different experience.
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Also, I still see no reason why Paramount having something to do with the upcoming remake affects this new set. Is the thinking process that because they're invested in the remake means they'll bother to invest in the new set? I've seen nothing that even indicates that thought.

If anything, they're simply following a smart marketing plan. There's going to be buzz about the series once more so it's time to cash in. Make this set have something the older one didn't and even the hardcore fans will buy it. To make sure the old set still sells, make sure it's extras are different than the newer ones as that way, the hardcore fans will still pick it up.

Being invested in the remake means jack so far.

Brett H.
08-09-2008, 11:33 PM
I've given out way too many get out of jail free cards to Paramount to expect we're going to get uncut footage put back into the movies.

As for special features, I don't even care anymore about them. I watched my cousin's bonus disc of the original set and it wasn't all that exciting, other than uncut footage. Only so much can be said about Friday the 13th. I think it basically was all said in the Jason X documentary.

With that said, new footage is found every day and always seems to go back on what directors have said to have been "trashed", so I wouldn't turn down the notion that it could still exist. But that is a pretty broad notion. Noah's Ark could be anywhere, man. ANYWHERE.

DRE
08-09-2008, 11:35 PM
On the contrary, there's nothing to say they will get it right until an announcement is made while we have past experiences with them showing that they've burned people in the past which creates the notion that this will be nothing different.

I'm not saying stop hoping for something great, but in my personal opinion, I don't see any reason why I should even believe that this will be the end all be all of a box set. Past showings and experiences are what we have to go by and with no announcement of what will happen, I don't see any reason to believe this set will be a different experience.

Nor do I believe it will be the end all be all, I do happen to believe more effort will be made on this one than the last.


Also, I still see no reason why Paramount having something to do with the upcoming remake affects this new set. Is the thinking process that because they're invested in the remake means they'll bother to invest in the new set? I've seen nothing that even indicates that thought.

Nor have you seen anything to indicate the opposite. So right now all we have is conjecture on both our parts sir, none more informed than the other.

If anything, they're simply following a smart marketing plan. There's going to be buzz about the series once more so it's time to cash in. Make this set have something the older one didn't and even the hardcore fans will buy it. To make sure the old set still sells, make sure it's extras are different than the newer ones as that way, the hardcore fans will still pick it up.

That could very be the case, it could very well not.

Being invested in the remake means jack so far.

From a certain point of view.

The Dream Master
08-09-2008, 11:37 PM
Yeah, I'm of the mind that, between the old set, Crystal Lake Memories, and some of the fine members of this forum, I know so much about the series already anyway. I'm not exactly sure what special features they could put on a new set that would make me excited enough to buy these on regular DVD yet again. I know some people are going to want commentaries for the four that didn't get them the first time around, but I'm not a commentary guy, so that won't make or break the new set for me. Then again, I think everyone around here knows I'm a tool and will re-buy shit, so I'm not going to definitely say I won't buy the new set.

Utellme
08-09-2008, 11:45 PM
When is this new set planned for ? And where was this info found ?

The Dream Master
08-09-2008, 11:46 PM
Dread Central first posted it earlier this week, but we first heard rumors of this all the way back in February. And most places are indicating that Paramount wants this out to coincide with the release of the new film this coming February.

Utellme
08-10-2008, 12:06 AM
Thanks

Id like to see them give us everything they have even if cut footage has poor picture quality give it to us we are die hard fans we will accept it. And if film don't exist of cut footage give us photo stills commentaries for all the films and give part 1 some respect with commentarys and uncut.

Chex
08-10-2008, 12:28 AM
So basically DRE, it comes down to nothing other than personal hope that Paramount will "wow" people this time with no sort of evidence to indicate this?

I can respect that completely.

I just (personally speaking) don't see any reason, despite everything having been said in this topic, to believe that Paramount will do anything different than the past.

As for what else could be said on the films, like Boo and DM have said, what else is there that hasn't been said in books, commentaries, featurettes, and the upcoming documentary? I would think they wouldn't want to just repeat interviews that'll show up in it, but then again, it wouldn't surprise me in the least.

Perhaps we'll get a featurette of Kane Hodder playing against CJ Graham in the Friday the 13th game for the Commodore64 and seeing who can achieve the higher score with running commentary from Corey Feldman. I'd watch it just to listen to Feldman's thoughts on how the game used free domain music such as Teddy Bear's Picnic while you hunt down Jason disguised as a camp visitor.

Penhall
08-10-2008, 12:41 AM
I don't know, I just highly doubt that the cut footage is lost forever.

I mean, they recently unearthed the pre-censored version of "Psycho", and that movie was released in 1960!

And even if they could only find SOME of the footage. Like with "Texas Chainsaw Massacre III". That movie was partially unrated, and I was happy with that. Even if it was just one death scene here and there, a few frames longer. I just want SOMETHING.

There's a version of "A New Beginning" floating around out there with a scene where Jason/Roy is actually hit in the arm TWICE with Pam's chainsaw, instead of once that we got in the final version. Not a big deal, but its still something.

Now do I actually believe Paramount is gonna do anything new with the films (besides possibly new transfers)? No, probably not. But if they actually attempted to find some of this footage or do something, I think we could get a decent set worthy of an upgrade.

And like I said, I've got my hopes up....again.

DRE
08-10-2008, 01:03 AM
So basically DRE, it comes down to nothing other than personal hope that Paramount will "wow" people this time with no sort of evidence to indicate this?

I can respect that completely.

But there is no evidence to indicate that they *won't*, other than past boo-hoos. It goes both ways Chex, it's just as likely that they WILL do something spectacular than not, wouldn't you agree?

I just (personally speaking) don't see any reason, despite everything having been said in this topic, to believe that Paramount will do anything different than the past.

And it's human nature to doubt something that has been disappointing for years, I understand that. I'm willing to believe that there's something better to be had, they can't strike out at every turn.


As for what else could be said on the films, like Boo and DM have said, what else is there that hasn't been said in books, commentaries, featurettes, and the upcoming documentary? I would think they wouldn't want to just repeat interviews that'll show up in it, but then again, it wouldn't surprise me in the least.


I would be content with just the upcoming documentary, but if there's something else out there to be given, I'll give them the chance to "wow" me.

Jigsaw
08-10-2008, 01:07 AM
One feature we still have yet to get from the Paramount-era F13s is behind-the-scenes footage. We only have some BTS footage, but no actual footage. Some BTS footage may exist for some of the movies, and any that can be obtained and include on the set would be appreciated.

Brett H.
08-10-2008, 01:14 AM
I would be content with just the upcoming documentary, but if there's something else out there to be given, I'll give them the chance to "wow" me.

As long as you're content with nothing more than an upcoming documentary. Most likely anyone else is just a human bowling pin, setting themselves up just to be knocked down. I hope the people who hope are right and we do get something special, but I don't have faith in Paramount to exude confidence that they will.

I don't mind people being excited, but Paramount is triple dipping at this point and what we want is something massive for them, yet every day life for AB back in the day...

Chex
08-10-2008, 01:39 AM
But there is no evidence to indicate that they *won't*, other than past boo-hoos. It goes both ways Chex, it's just as likely that they WILL do something spectacular than not, wouldn't you agree?

Which means there's past experiences that haven't even been average compared to how many positive showings? Yes, to me, that speaks something. It's not enough to completely determine that this will be a complete let down though, but it still something none the less.

Like I've been saying, past showings mean something to me. When hearing about the high hopes a few have, I expected something other than simply having faith. That's even why I asked what Paramount's involvement in the remake has to do with this set even being worth the money they're asking.

As I've already said numerous times, I can respect someone just wishing for the best. I simply don't share that positive attitude due to past examples and with nothing to indicate otherwise. At this juncture, the best course of action to make my view to change is for them to announce what the set will contain. If it's loaded with goodies, then great. Next time they go into a new set, I'll be more optomistic. If this set is nothing but a terrible rehash or just doesn't measure up to much, then the next set I'll go into it with the same view I've got now.

And it's human nature to doubt something that has been disappointing for years, I understand that. I'm willing to believe that there's something better to be had, they can't strike out at every turn.

Yeah, I pretty much get that.

I would be content with just the upcoming documentary, but if there's something else out there to be given, I'll give them the chance to "wow" me.

I don't think there's anyone in this topic who's said "forget them! I won't even see what they're putting out!" as it's not going to cost them anything.

DRE
08-10-2008, 01:55 AM
Which means there's past experiences that haven't even been average compared to how many positive showings? Yes, to me, that speaks something. It's not enough to completely determine that this will be a complete let down though, but it still something none the less.

Like I've been saying, past showings mean something to me. When hearing about the high hopes a few have, I expected something other than simply having faith. That's even why I asked what Paramount's involvement in the remake has to do with this set even being worth the money they're asking.

As I've already said numerous times, I can respect someone just wishing for the best. I simply don't share that positive attitude due to past examples and with nothing to indicate otherwise. At this juncture, the best course of action to make my view to change is for them to announce what the set will contain. If it's loaded with goodies, then great. Next time they go into a new set, I'll be more optomistic. If this set is nothing but a terrible rehash or just doesn't measure up to much, then the next set I'll go into it with the same view I've got now.

For people who are hard to please, that would be the case. I myself don't expect them to shit gold and lace the discs with it, the first DVDs were a leap ahead of the VHS versions, the boxset was a step above the initial releases and I expect this set to be a step or more above that, nothing more nor less.


Yeah, I pretty much get that.

I appreciate that you do.


I don't think there's anyone in this topic who's said "forget them! I won't even see what they're putting out!" as it's not going to cost them anything.

Neither do I, nor do I remember insinuating such.

But hey, I understand and respect those who feel scorned, really. I would never expect uncut releases, but I'd be damned happy if they looked and found the footage. If not, I'll still rise the next day.

sCabbOy
08-10-2008, 03:25 AM
I'd love BTS footage, I doubt any of that exists unless a crew member shot it. Savini loved shooting his own BTS, and I know for sure he has video of BTS of Part IV. You can see some of the video on the Scream Greats movie with Ted White with half make up on smiling, talking and showing it off.

as for the uncut, I personally would give one of my nuts (and please don't call me out on that quote again) to see it but I can do with out it. ALL of the movies- even the bad ones- hold up to their highest potential the way they are. I would love commentaries for all, BTS for all, tour of the shooting locations, interviews with more obscure stars from the series, re-union footage, and things like that. I care more about things like that then uncut movies.

kramerfan
08-10-2008, 05:45 AM
I agree with DRE and have a big feeling were gonna get something special here.I pray we do.Id even take the cut footage and deleted scenes as bonus feetures.I wonder if there are tv spots and radio spots for the films out there?

Chex
08-10-2008, 06:13 AM
For people who are hard to please, that would be the case. I myself don't expect them to shit gold and lace the discs with it, the first DVDs were a leap ahead of the VHS versions, the boxset was a step above the initial releases and I expect this set to be a step or more above that, nothing more nor less.

So what exactly do you expect? If you barely expect anything above, then I don't quite understand why the majority of your posts have been about how this box set will give something "special". It seems your definition and expectation of what "special" is differs greatly from some of the others. I'm not trying to sound demeaning, but just curious as to what that is exactly because otherwise, our views are rather similar in what we expect to happen yet we're calling it something different.

Neither do I, nor do I remember insinuating such.

But hey, I understand and respect those who feel scorned, really. I would never expect uncut releases, but I'd be damned happy if they looked and found the footage. If not, I'll still rise the next day.

Seeing the specs seems to be a given for just about everyone here. Seeing what they are just appeared to be a redundant comment to me is all.

Anyway, is there anything else to really add between our discussion? I mean, we both know each other's opinions and views. You've answered my question somewhat as to why Paramount's involvement in the remake and why supposedly this new set will be special to the best of your abilities. Yet everything is exactly where we started: An optimistic outlook based on hope and a pessimistic outlook based on past experiences.

I think we accomplished a lot here. Actually, I don't think that's true, but it's better than saying these posts were mainly just us hearing our own voices (so to speak).

I'll simply say that I hope for the best with some new content whatever it may be. If uncut footage is placed in, well, that's far greater than I would have ever expected, but if not I wouldn't feel sad about it.

DRE
08-10-2008, 07:52 AM
So what exactly do you expect? If you barely expect anything above, then I don't quite understand why the majority of your posts have been about how this box set will give something "special".

It seems your definition and expectation of what "special" is differs greatly from some of the others. I'm not trying to sound demeaning, but just curious as to what that is exactly because otherwise, our views are rather similar in what we expect to happen yet we're calling it something different.


I expect more than the last boxset (Which would be commentary for all the films, more convention footage and interviews, more make-up secrets, possibly BTS & music videos if available.) Something "special" would be more effort than the last time sir (Since most complain about how lackluster it is.) If that "Special" differs from anyone else's, then so be it.


Seeing the specs seems to be a given for just about everyone here. Seeing what they are just appeared to be a redundant comment to me is all.

Not sure I follow here, but I'll take your word for it. :D

Anyway, is there anything else to really add between our discussion? I mean, we both know each other's opinions and views.

Indeed.

You've answered my question somewhat as to why Paramount's involvement in the remake and why supposedly this new set will be special to the best of your abilities.

I love your use of a backhanded comment, very original and something I've never seen on any message board before. *Applause*

Let me see if I can get a little Spock-like for you then good sir. "Is it not logical to conclude that Paramount could *possibly* put a bit more effort into a product that would help to push the new product that they now have a stake in again, as opposed to the first boxset which was made to just cash in on someone else's film?"

I'm only saying that the potential is greater for this boxset than the last, because of what they have at stake in the new film. If you don't agree or what have you, fine with me sir, I can live with it. ;)


Yet everything is exactly where we started: An optimistic outlook based on hope and a pessimistic outlook based on past experiences.

And yet, neither one of us is anymore right than the other. I care not if you wish to be negative about it, my mission in life is not to convince anyone otherwise. More power to those who wish to do so. We'll simply have to wait and see.

I think we accomplished a lot here. Actually, I don't think that's true, but it's better than saying these posts were mainly just us hearing our own voices (so to speak).

Agreed.

I'll simply say that I hope for the best with some new content whatever it may be. If uncut footage is placed in, well, that's far greater than I would have ever expected, but if not I wouldn't feel sad about it.

We all hope for the best, and I think that's where we meet in agreement, oh wait....;)

Seriously Chex, we shouldn't be combative about this, we all want the same thing, we just have differing views of the situation, right or wrong.

Chex
08-10-2008, 09:35 AM
Let me see if I can get a little Spock-like for you then good sir. "Is it not logical to conclude that Paramount could *possibly* put a bit more effort into a product that would help to push the new product that they now have a stake in again, as opposed to the first boxset which was made to just cash in on someone else's film?"

I've already answered that multiple times actually. Read any of my previous posts and you should see how I say it's a possibility.

I'm only saying that the potential is greater for this boxset than the last, because of what they have at stake in the new film. If you don't agree or what have you, fine with me sir, I can live with it.

Once again, previous posts from the get go as I've said I have no disrespect for those that believe it's possible.

And yet, neither one of us is anymore right than the other. I care not if you wish to be negative about it, my mission in life is not to convince anyone otherwise. More power to those who wish to do so. We'll simply have to wait and see.

In all honesty, I don't see why this conversation continued on as I asked for evidence as to why Paramount's stake in the remake would affect this new set to which you answered. When I commented on how it's basically just a belief and there's not evidence, we've gone back and forth to which, yes, it does appear like you're trying to convert me or something, but I figured it's just how the conversation looks and wasn't on purpose.

Seriously Chex, we shouldn't be combative about this, we all want the same thing, we just have differing views of the situation, right or wrong.

Who's being combative? I don't believe you are and I'm not trying to persuade anyone to think differently (once again, every previous post). It just continues on like a broken record though. ;)

DRE
08-10-2008, 10:13 AM
In all honesty, I don't see why this conversation continued on as I asked for evidence as to why Paramount's stake in the remake would affect this new set to which you answered.

Ah, you said I "somewhat" answered, so I made sure you had a clear and concise one.


When I commented on how it's basically just a belief and there's not evidence, we've gone back and forth to which, yes, it does appear like you're trying to convert me or something, but I figured it's just how the conversation looks and wasn't on purpose.

You figure correctly. I get no prize nor ticket to paradise for converting your thought to my own.


Who's being combative? I don't believe you are and I'm not trying to persuade anyone to think differently (once again, every previous post). It just continues on like a broken record though. ;)

I take combative as consistently attempting to claim I have no basis for expecting more from this boxset, when I clearly felt I WAS given more with the last boxset over the original DVDs. I have no reason to believe I won't be given more with this one. You felt you were justified in your belief that "past showings" meant something more than "High Hopes." As you mentioned, we were both saying similar things, but as I mentioned, we were coming from different places with it (Me being satisfied with what I had before and expecting better, you not being satisfied with what you had before and expecting not much better.)

A simple failed communication of ideals, that's all. Water under the bridge.

Andiac
08-10-2008, 12:33 PM
Settle down. Seriously. No one wants to hear you guys bicker in this thread. Take it up in PMs. People want to read news on a new boxset here. Don't waste space fighting. E-mail or PM if you want to continue.

Speaking of the boxset: It's just a RUMOUR. Paramount have not announced anything. So don't get too excited yet folks. Remember all the rumours behind the last boxset? I would know. I was the Boxset king on the last forum, I compiled all the news in those threads and kept it up to date. We were told about multiple commentaries, cut seens, Alice Cooper music video...

Then we got crappy mono, original movies, VHS or worse quality cut scenes and only a few commentaries. We got some decent doco footage. But for a series of 8 films? It was like the Nightmare on Elm St boxset, which came out in 1999 - when DVDs didn't really have special features. The Friday boxset was a nice idea, but failed for the fans.

If anything, this will be a re-package. I do hope otherwise though. But until Paramount actually say "Yep, new set, with a lot more extras," please don't get your hopes up.

DRE
08-10-2008, 12:53 PM
No one's hopes are up, either it happens or it doesn't, no sleep will be lost. That last boxset was still better than anything we'd gotten before it, and the chance is always there for something better in the future, at least I believe so.

There's no fight going on here, just healthy debate, it's already taken care of.

kramerfan
08-10-2008, 06:18 PM
Anyone know if theres tv spots and radio spots for the films?

Hockey Mask
08-10-2008, 08:27 PM
I fully expect Paramount to use the old extras from the previous box set and just add to it. There is no reason they would do different ones only when they could be used for free and the old set won't be on the market. Then the only thing they can really add are more commentaries and a detailed series documentary.

Most likely they will be repackaging the old one and selling it as if it were all new.

VoorheesGuy91
08-10-2008, 08:53 PM
Let us all try to remain Optimistic...

Chex
08-10-2008, 09:03 PM
Settle down. Seriously. No one wants to hear you guys bicker in this thread. Take it up in PMs. People want to read news on a new boxset here. Don't waste space fighting. E-mail or PM if you want to continue.

Er, nobody was hostile and he and I had already came to an understanding. I don't see how this conversation is any different than the 1000 posts arguing about a jacket or a shade of white for the hockey mask considering it's been far more civil the entire time. :-/
ADDED:
There's no fight going on here, just healthy debate, it's already taken care of.

Pretty much. Well, a healthy debate of two people who's idea of what to expect isn't that far off with a different definition. :p Before Andi's post, I was going to say how dare we end a civil conversation like gentlemen as this is the internet and every discussion shall end with some obscenity. :p

sCabbOy
08-10-2008, 10:39 PM
I am remaining optimistic, or at least trying to by thinking we will get more commentary and more BTS. Uncut IMO is out of the question. What I did want to point out is the AMAZING SE that Paramount put out for The Warriors, so Paramount has surprised me.

nottidelterrore
08-11-2008, 01:11 AM
What I did want to point out is the AMAZING SE that Paramount put out for The Warriors, so Paramount has surprised me.

That's a very good SE. I love it.

Paramount is more than capable of giving us something good. Let's hope they do so with this set.

The Dream Master
08-11-2008, 06:40 AM
Paramount also did a good box set as far as specials go for The Godfather, and, as someone mentioned earlier, they're coming out with another one that not only addresses the major problem with the first set (the video quality), but also adds a lot of new extras. So, Paramount does have it in them. Still, the only thing that would truly excite me (uncut movies) isn't going to happen, but I am holding out faint hope for a Blu-ray release at least.

Rich
08-11-2008, 06:42 AM
We don't even know if there is going to be a new set yet. Will Paramount release the new movie on dvd or will it be a Warner Bros. release?

The Dream Master
08-11-2008, 06:43 AM
Paramount is handling the home video release for the new film.

kramerfan
08-11-2008, 07:25 AM
Can anyone answer my above question please?Also wonder if theres more trailers and wonder if well get the Alice Cooper video and what about the making of the trailers we didnt get first time?

Rich
08-11-2008, 07:27 AM
I don't know if there are any existing tv spots. I don't know if there were ever any radio spots (being that Paramount did not do much to publicise the movies). As far as the Alice Cooper music video for Jason Lives, I think the legal rights to that are in limbo. I was under the impression that that was the reason why it was not included in the box set we have.

The Dream Master
08-11-2008, 07:27 AM
There were TV spots, for sure. I can vaguely remember seeing spots for The New Blood and Jason Takes Manhattan, but I was too young to remember the ones before that. As for radio spots, I have no idea, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were.

As for whatever else we might get, I wouldn't get your hopes up about anything until it's officially announced.

Rich
08-11-2008, 07:29 AM
Personally I can care less about spots. I want uncut footage and more documentaries and more interviews.

The Dream Master
08-11-2008, 07:32 AM
Yeah, I get a kick out of watching trailers every now and then, especially the ones for the early movies (I miss early-80s style trailers), but it's never really been a make or break special feature for me. Then again, like I said, when it comes to this series, even more documentaries and interviews better have some kind of buried information in them for me to get interested. I mean, what more can we learn? That Gillette played Jason for only 4 seconds? That the MPAA cut Part 7 even more than previously thought? I'm sure Buechler would be happy to remind us of that. ;)

skuppy
08-11-2008, 07:35 AM
There are definitely TV spots as I have some on DVD-R (of part 5 anyway).
While I doubt it'd happen, I'd like to see Paramount release some of these alternate versions (even if they are VHS transfers) included with the theatrical cuts. As a bootleg collector, I've come across several alternate cuts. I think it'd be great if Paramount would release some of those versions. However, I highly doubt they will and this new set will probably be a repackaging of the current set.

Esten
08-11-2008, 07:56 PM
TV spots shouldn't be too hard to secure. Anyone know if they had Electronic Press Kits for any of the Paramount-era films?


That the MPAA cut Part 7 even more than previously thought? I'm sure Buechler would be happy to remind us of that. ;)

THEY CUT MY MOVIE

sCabbOy
08-11-2008, 09:22 PM
There were no electronic press kits back then, it was all print.

Natman
08-11-2008, 09:41 PM
I'll be shunned for this, so I'll only say it once. I'm happy with the set I have now.

Esten
08-11-2008, 10:07 PM
There were no electronic press kits back then, it was all print.

I've seen EPKs from films dating back to 84.

sCabbOy
08-11-2008, 10:52 PM
I've seen EPKs from films dating back to 84.

Okay, my bad. I change my statement.

My image of a EPK was a folder with a computer disc/DVD with the trailer and info, etc. But, as far as ones for F13 I have never seen them, and I had all of the PK for the movies at one time when I collected F13 memorabilia.