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hack slash
07-26-2007, 07:04 PM
The Hulk to Face Tim Blake Nelson
Source: The Hollywood Reporter July 26, 2007
Tim Blake Nelson has joined the cast of Marvel Studios' The Incredible Hulk, says The Hollywood Reporter.
The movie, which Louis Leterrier is directing, sees Bruce Banner/Hulk on the run, trying to avoid capture long enough to cure the condition that turns him into a monster.
Nelson will play a scientist named Samuel Sterns. In Hulk lore, Sterns, aka "The Leader," is one of the Hulk's major antagonists, a menial worker in a chemical research plant who is bombarded with gamma radiation. He emerges from his accident not only green-skinned but also superintelligent, with an oversized brain.
Nelson joins a strong comic book movie cast that includes two-time Oscar nominee Edward Norton (Banner), Liv Tyler (Betty Ross), Tim Roth (villain Emil Blonsky/the Abomination) and William Hurt (General Ross, Betty's father).
Zak Penn wrote the latest big-screen adventure of the green goliath, which Universal Pictures is distributing domestically June 13, 2008.
The Dream Master
07-26-2007, 07:08 PM
Whoa, the Leader is going to be there along with the Abomination?
Or perhaps they're going to just have him in his pre-Leader form for most of this film. Either way, that's a great, great cast.
Shoesalesman
07-26-2007, 07:31 PM
Oh boy, I'm all gleeful over here. :D
I love the Hulk, and I though the movie with Bana as Banner was awsome!!!
I'm going to see this one on the big screen if I can.
Just Jeans
07-26-2007, 07:46 PM
Considering how awful I thought the first film was, the news from the Comic Con thread has got me stoked. That's no small feat. The TV show is my favorite version of the Hulk lore, and I'm glad that the new film is going to mirror it a bit. I like the idea of Bruce on the road, looking for a cure.
Killa Pimp
07-27-2007, 02:07 AM
I liked the first one. Even though it was a little to character driven for the "Hulk Smash," slug fest I was expecting. It was a decent setup movie.
Hopefully this one will redeem itself with some mindless action sequences and lots of stuff getting destroyed with a few Holy S**T moments thrown in.
The HULK is > both Fantastic Four films.
The Dream Master
07-27-2007, 02:29 AM
I liked the first Hulk alright, but it suffered from having two climaxes, essentially. I felt the battle with his father at the end was unnecessary, and the film would have been better suited had it ended without Bruce hulking out to destroy his father .
It was much better than both Fantastic Four films, that's for sure. I'm excited for the new one because Norton as Banner is just ace.
nickmeece
08-06-2007, 07:42 AM
First official image courtesy of FilmRot.com...
http://s5.photobucket.com/albums/y180/nickmeece/incredihulk.jpg
Now that's the friggin Incredible Hulk! I love the fact that they didn't just make a big green version of Ed Norton (Like they did in the first one with Bana), that's the Savage Hulk comic book design with a bit of Ferrigno thrown in.
I love it!
Just Jeans
08-06-2007, 10:34 AM
I wish it had a little more of Norton in it -- I wouldn't want it to look exactly like him, but a bit more of his facial features would be nice -- but over all I really like it.
Killa Pimp
08-06-2007, 10:36 PM
I wish it had a little more of Norton in it -- I wouldn't want it to look exactly like him, but a bit more of his facial features would be nice -- but over all I really like it.
I like it also,
as long as its not a guy painted green with a bad wig on running around beating people up, I am all for it.
The Dark Vampire
08-06-2007, 10:39 PM
I wonder if we will ever see Grey Hulk on the big screen
I know we won't in this movie but a future Hulk Movie maybe?
ADDED:
BTW When The Hulk first came out and they were talking about Hulk 2 one of the plans was to turn Betty Ross into She-Hulk (yes I'm been serious)
I am one of the three people in the world who actually enjoyed the movie Hulk. My favorite version of the character though, it not that 1980s tv show, but the Fox cartoon. I just wish it was more like that and the character actually spoke. I wanted to hear "Hulk smash!," and was disapointed that I did not.
Well apparently Hulk will talk in this film and rumor has it he will be voiced by the same man who did the 90's cartoon, live action Hulk himself Lou Ferrigno!
Say what you will about the TV Show, but it did its part in making the Incredible Hulk character a worldwide phenomenon. Go to anyone on the street and say "Incredible Hulk" and over half of them will say "That old Bill Bixby show" before they say "Marvel Comics."
El Rooto
08-06-2007, 11:05 PM
If I walked up to someone and said "Incredible Hulk" at random, they'd probably think I wasn't all there as far as sanity and mental skills go.
Violent VictiM
08-06-2007, 11:17 PM
I think the first Hulk film was awesome. I loved every minute of it. I was a sucker for the character development, the love story, and the Hulk scenes. This movie will kick ass for sure though.
How can Lou Ferrigno do the voice? Isn't he all, deaf-speech now?
He was deaf when he did the cartoon voice in the 90's, his speech was the same then as it is now. I mean, all the guy has to say is "Hulk Smash!"
hack slash
08-06-2007, 11:21 PM
I love the Hulk movie the acting was great the story, the SFX. much better than Spider-Man 3
Spade
08-07-2007, 08:58 AM
I think the cast sounds pretty good. I'll definately check this movie out.
Take care and God bless.
Spade
Deathscythe
02-07-2008, 05:17 AM
Has there been any Hulk news in months? I know most of the hype has been stolen by Batman but I feel like this movie barely exists at all. Bleh.
El Rooto
02-07-2008, 05:22 AM
Well...there's the Iron Man cameo.
Deathscythe
02-07-2008, 05:26 AM
Well...there's the Iron Man cameo.
Damn, that reminds me that theres an Iron Man film this year.:shifty:
nottidelterrore
02-07-2008, 07:23 AM
I'm not big into the Hulk but that image of him is pretty good. Perhaps I'll check this one out. I'm more stoked for Iron Man since I'm a huge Downey fan.
The Dream Master
02-12-2008, 12:45 AM
From AICN (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35566):
It was great to see the first footage of the INCREDIBLE HULK. I think the
Ang Lee movie was terrible, but I have a lot of faith in this one. What we
saw looked like the first official trailer. The scene opens with Edward
Norton meditating. We see images of a lab, experiments, Banner escaping from
the (Russian?) military (led by William Hurt and Tim Roth), running in the
streets, kissing Liv Tyler, guns, shooting, more running… The ‘trailer’ ends
with Abomination walking towards Hulk. Remember the end of Rocky III? Apollo
Creed wants to hit Rocky in their friendly duel? That’s exactly the way the
trailer ends. Abomination wants to hit Hulk. Hulk wants to hit Abomination,
but before it actually happens the trailer is over. Abomination looks like a
Hulk with the Voldemort face from the first Harry Potter movie. A really
mean motha. He sure is a great opponent.
I thought the shown footage was awesome.
That's apparently taken by someone who was at Toy Fair in Germany. Still no pictures or footage available online (to my knowledge).
Spade
02-12-2008, 07:42 AM
I can't wait to see this trailer.
Darth Sinister
02-12-2008, 09:24 PM
He was deaf when he did the cartoon voice in the 90's, his speech was the same then as it is now. I mean, all the guy has to say is "Hulk Smash!"
Lou Ferrigno lost 80% of his hearing due to an ear infection as a child. However in spite of that, he can hear some things and he can speak fairly well in spite of this. He was a regular guest star on "King Of Queens" where he played himself, as the neighbor to the Heffernans. He also did the Hulk in the mid 90's animated series, playing the Green Hulk persona. So there would be no problem with him saying "Hulk Smash" and "Puny Banner" among other things.
The Incredible Hulk Teaser to Debut Wed., March 12 (http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=6892)
The first teaser trailer for hotly anticipated summer superhero epic "The Incredible Hulk" will have its exclusive broadcast debut in a simultaneous "roadblock" on seven networks on Wednesday, March 12. This first opportunity to see material from the motion picture will be aired at approximately 9:56 p.m. EDT/6:56 p.m. PDT on MTV, MTVU, MTV2, VH1, Spike TV, Nick at Nite and CMT.
Following the on-air premiere, the trailer will be immediately posted on MTV.com for an exclusive period. The trailer will begin showing in theaters across the country on Friday, March 14, with prints of Rogue Pictures' "Doomsday."
"The Incredible Hulk" hits theaters worldwide on June 13, 2008.
The Dream Master
03-08-2008, 06:29 PM
Cool. I'd been thinking about seeing Doomsday anyway, so this is good news.
Joshg
03-08-2008, 07:22 PM
I thought the first Hulk was one of the worst superhero movies ever. Errr,
But this one may be good. No doubt they'll improve upon it. (Sorry for bashing the other film, lol)
Apocalypto
03-09-2008, 12:08 AM
I thought it was one of the best, and among the most underrated films ever.
Pic of William Hurt as Thunderbolt Ross...
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b147/Phatmaster2k5/b_18237.jpg
killingvector
03-09-2008, 02:22 AM
Ang Lee's Hulk was 61% fresh on rottentomatoes, a slightly better than average consensus.
A complete re-do still seems quite gratuitous to me.
The Dream Master
03-09-2008, 03:05 AM
I thought the first Hulk was much better film than most people gave it credit for. The main problem was with its structure, as there were essentially two climaxes that didn't mesh well. When Hulk is going on his rampage and finally calms down, it seems like there was some resolution there. Then the film ramps right back up with the big battle, which ended up feeling tacked on. It would have been more satisfying to see Banner have control of his anger and defeat his father by just walking away from the confrontation. Thematically, that makes alot more sense. Still, it wasn't nearly as bad as the general perception is. Much better than dreck like the Fantastic Four films.
Apocalypto
03-09-2008, 03:27 AM
I think Hulk giving him what he wants and that being what kills him was a fitting ending.
killingvector
03-09-2008, 05:06 AM
The ending of the film definitely worked for me; the father consumed by his own ego destroys himself. Tied very well with the origin. Unfortunately, the film started very slow and I wasn't a fan of the computer generated hulk.
Apocalypto
03-09-2008, 06:29 AM
I was far more invested in the lives of the characters than I was with any other mainstream superhero flick, I think looked about as good as he could've.
Just Jeans
03-09-2008, 10:48 AM
I don't think the original Hulk is horrible, I just think it's dreadfully boring. I've watched it a couple of times, hoping each time that I'd warm up to it, but I just can't. I'm not interested in the characters, and I never warmed up to Banner. The whole thing just felt painfully generic.
I guess it's because I grew up on a particular version of the Hulk mythology (the TV series), and so had trouble connecting with the film's characterization of Banner.
I hope the new film is good. I really hate Ang Lee's Hulk. One of the worst superhero ever made along with X3 & Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer. I mean Hulk dogs, Bruce Banner's dad is alive (He abuse Bruce when he was a child & in a rage, Bruce shot him dead. Bruce being abusive as a child is one of the thing that made him became the Hulk along with the gamma bomb from his rage he hidden in himself until he was hit by the bomb.) & he became Absorbing Man?!? Not to mention the uncessary need to show comic strips on film. Leave that in the comics, Ang. :rolleyes:
Apocalypto
03-10-2008, 01:21 AM
I liked the visual style, the best job of bringing the comic book feel to the screen yet other than Sin City, and I prefer a deeper look into how he became Hulk and having it relate to trauma from earlier in his life.
It's probably my favorite mainstream superhero film so far actually. I'll take "too much" characterization over not enough, as one comic book franchise in particular that I've loved since childhood gave me when it hit the big screen.
King Dracula
03-10-2008, 07:38 PM
Here is the teaser for the trailer airing on MTV. Can't wait to see the trailer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_S1dOnOztg
killingvector
03-11-2008, 07:35 PM
I don't think the original Hulk is horrible, I just think it's dreadfully boring. I've watched it a couple of times, hoping each time that I'd warm up to it, but I just can't. I'm not interested in the characters, and I never warmed up to Banner. The whole thing just felt painfully generic.
I guess it's because I grew up on a particular version of the Hulk mythology (the TV series), and so had trouble connecting with the film's characterization of Banner.
There is definitely some truth there, jeans. I was engrossed in the Banner on Banner meltdown as it intensified and was satisfied by the ending, but I agree that it moved much too slowly, at least early on.
The Dream Master
03-11-2008, 09:27 PM
See, I'm the opposite of you guys. Although the film moved a bit slowly early on, I was still invested in it. By the time the Hulk comes down from his rage during the whole military sequence, I didn't care for what came after. I felt like Banner getting control of his rage was an excellent climax, and then we were treated to the big battle. Although I appreciate the irony of the father being destroyed by his creation, I think it would have been more fitting to have Bruce simply walk away from the confrontation. His father could have still got his just desserts somehow, I'm sure.
hack slash
03-12-2008, 11:49 PM
Trailer is kinda cool
http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?id=1583143&vid=215625
Sean [The Wildcard]
03-13-2008, 02:22 AM
I was watching 'Home Improvement' tonight, and when they went to commercial, the trailer played.
I was completely blown away. This movie is going to be Amazing!
King Dracula
03-13-2008, 02:42 AM
Looks good. Abom looks a little bit like the Alien hybrid in Alien resurrection or at least it's head to me.
Scarecrow
03-13-2008, 08:13 AM
I was hoping this would keep a vague continuity with the first, they don't need t reference it, just not outright ignore it. At any rate, looking awesome.
- Scarecrow
Wow this movie looks awesome! I am actually reading the Essential Incredible Hulk Vol. 1 right now (just got done with Essential Ghost Rider Vol. 1) and am definitely in an Incredible Hulk mood! :)
Director Louis Leterrier has done a text commentary on pictures from the teaser at Empire Online (http://www.empireonline.com/features/hulk/1.asp).
A couple bits from it: "You’ll see Bruce Banner transform in minute three" and the Hulk vs Abomination fight is "26 minutes long".
Scarecrow
03-14-2008, 08:04 AM
Now that sounds intense. :D
- Scarecrow
nickmeece
03-14-2008, 04:41 PM
Wow...the muscle definition on the Hulk is insane!
Apocalypto
03-15-2008, 02:54 AM
The trailer was phenominal, but I'm not sure how to feel about those comments.
It sounds like this movie will have almost no build up and I don't see how a 1 on 1 fight, great or not, can last nearly a half hour without dragging out.
The Dream Master
03-15-2008, 03:52 AM
I'm thinking the quick transformation might just lead directly into a flashback of some sorts.
And yeah, I don't see how a fight like that won't feel too long. We'll see, I guess.
Just Jeans
03-15-2008, 05:26 AM
and the Hulk vs Abomination fight is "26 minutes long".
It's The George Lucas Pod Racing Mad-On Redux.
Learn to trim, fellas!
TheShowstoppa
03-15-2008, 06:48 AM
I'm not going to lie - This looks very interesting. I still don't think Norton fits the part of Banner, so I'll continue onward with that thinking even though I love him as an actor.
As for the fight being 26 Minutes - I'm going to fall asleep with that unless they keep my interest the whole time. There's only so much you can do in a fight before you lose interest...
Violent VictiM
03-15-2008, 04:19 PM
I agree, Norton as the Hulk is really queer to me but I still thing the 2003 effort was really good so I don't see why this couldn't just be a direct sequel.
A 26 minute fight wouldn't be so bad, I'm sure there's going to be a ton of cool shit.
Apocalypto
03-15-2008, 05:39 PM
I agree, Norton as the Hulk is really queer to me but I still thing the 2003 effort was really good so I don't see why this couldn't just be a direct sequel.
To appease the many ADD viewers that didn't give a shit about human drama and wanted to see half hour fight scenes.:)
Livingdeadboy
03-15-2008, 06:44 PM
is it just me, or does Ed Norton look similar to the Bill Bixby Banner?
Just Jeans
03-15-2008, 11:38 PM
To appease the many ADD viewers that didn't give a shit about human drama and wanted to see half hour fight scenes.
Or because Norton had a different artistic direction in mind when he rewrote Penn's script (that direction reflecting his affection for the Bixby television series).
One is just as likely as the other, I suppose.
Apocalypto
03-16-2008, 01:49 AM
Probably a combination of the two.
A 26 minute fight sounds like good times to me. It's primarily what I'll be there for.
Or because Norton had a different artistic direction in mind when he rewrote Penn's script (that direction reflecting his affection for the Bixby television series).
Glad Norton rewrote Penn's script, 'cause Penn isn't a good writer. For god's sake, he wrote the piece of shit call "X-Men: The Last Stand".
And the trailer look cool. Still hope they make Hulk & Abomination look better when they finish up the work.
Come on guys. The big fight scene will be entertaining as hell. I'm sure it will have all the story and drama that surrounds the characters of Banner, Thunderbolt, Rick Jones, Betty and co. but with the added comic book action sequences that is sure to please the viewers in all areas.
It seems to me as though the Ang Lee movie tried to be a more "adult/mature" (not in a sexual way) interpretation of the character while this film will be more geared toward the fans of the comics/lore, and I hope I'm right.
I did enjoy the 2003 movie, but I would like the origins of the story to be followed more closely to it's original source material this time around.
The Dream Master
03-17-2008, 04:20 AM
I also suspect that the Hulk/Abomination fight won't be continuous; instead, there will be other things going on that will be intercut with the fight itself. Kind of like how the Vader/Obi-Wan duel was spread out over a long amount of time but was also intercut with Palaptine/Yoda in Revenge of the Sith.
FreddyKR
03-18-2008, 04:08 AM
I'm excited about the film...one thing that kinda turned me off was the last like scene with the hulk and that big ass thing flying at each other bout to punch each other. eh hem...anyone remember the matrix revolutions? same exact thing..sorry if this has been discussed...
anyone remember the matrix revolutions
I have forgotten that horrible piece of crap of a movie until now. :(
Darth Sinister
03-18-2008, 07:55 PM
I liked that one.
El Rooto
03-18-2008, 08:45 PM
I liked it well enough.
Go ahead and have that 26-minute fight scene. If it gets slow, I'm just going to go for a drink of water.
Scarecrow
03-19-2008, 07:54 AM
Still, at least they're going for a spectacualr action so we'll have soemthing pretty to look at. Lets just hope the story is up to it.
- Scarecrow
IGN reveals the poster (http://movies.ign.com/articles/866/866368p1.html).
http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/866/866368/the-incredible-hulk-20080414010125119-000.jpg
CosmoBubba
04-15-2008, 03:13 AM
That poster really reminds me of the one for Red Dragon, which is odd when you consider that they both star Ed Norton and were distributed by Universal.
The smartest thing they've done is to model it after the TV show while keeping true to the comics. They've got quite a few tickets sold from me.
Apocalypto
04-15-2008, 04:13 AM
That's a great poster design.
Deathscythe
04-15-2008, 04:27 AM
Looks pretty good so far.
The poster remind me of a ripoff on the most popular comic book cover of another popular Marvel character. Oh.....who could that be? :D
http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/44000/43734/113021-homage-covers_400.jpg
Deathscythe
04-15-2008, 05:48 AM
Haha, I just saw someone point that out on another forum. Ang Lee no more.
TheShowstoppa
04-15-2008, 07:39 AM
I was going to say the same thing about the Spidey comic. It's completely ripped off of it! Oh well, it looks good at least.
Scarecrow
04-15-2008, 08:35 AM
To be fair its hardly an original idea...
But I like that poster, looks dman cool. :D
- Scarecrow
Behind-the-Scenes Drama (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20191802,00.html)
By Gregory Kirschling
Edward Norton isn't speaking. The star of The Incredible Hulk, the new $150 million adaptation of the Marvel comic-book series, would normally be chatting up the press this time of year, promoting his big summer movie. Instead, the 38-year-old Oscar nominee has declined repeated interview requests, following a disagreement he had with his producers over the final cut of the film. In recent months, Norton and the film's director, Louis Leterrier (The Transporter), campaigned for a longer, more detailed film. Marvel Studios wanted a faster, leaner one. Marvel won. These creative arguments happen in Hollywood a lot but usually remain a secret. This time, they didn't.
So Norton isn't talking, and others are ready to lay the blame — well, everywhere.
''It's as much Marvel's fault as it is Edward's,'' Leterrier says. ''And my fault. It's everybody's fault! Or no one's fault, in a way. I regret that [Marvel and Norton] didn't come to an agreement where we could've all worked together.''
It's amazing that Marvel wanted to make another Hulk movie in the first place. In comic-book stores, The Hulk is only slightly less popular than Spider-Man, but at movie theaters, not so much. Ang Lee's moody 2003 Hulk flopped, earning only $132 million domestically. Normally, that would mean franchise death, but in 2005, Marvel grew tired of licensing its characters (and losing profits) to studios and acquired $525 million to start funding films itself. Marvel also decided that The Hulk's popularity as an icon made the movie do-over worth the risk. ''It's Spidey and Hulk standing atop Mount Marvel,'' says Kevin Feige, the company's president of production. ''It felt silly to wait more than five years to bring The Hulk back to the screen.''
The Incredible Hulk is not another origin story: When the movie begins, Bruce Banner (Norton) is already The Hulk. He's hiding out in Brazil, trying to find a cure for the gamma-ray exposure that turns him into a monster. Before long, his whereabouts are uncovered by Gen. Thunderbolt Ross (William Hurt), and the movie turns into an extended chase, as Banner tries to cure himself while eluding Emil Blonsky (Tim Roth), a soldier who turns into the scaly fiend Abomination. The new Hulk film is said to remain truer not only to the comic book but also to the old Lou Ferrigno TV show.
It's unfortunate that Hulk has been generating negative publicity lately, because there's a lot at stake for Marvel: The company's first two films, Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk, are being released this summer. Marvel's decision to cast Norton as Banner was a gutsy choice in more ways than one. Norton is an enormously respected actor, but the Fight Club star also has a reputation for being an intense presence behind the scenes. ''When you work with Edward, you are dealing with an actor/producer/director — someone who is passionate about film and cares about every project he does,'' says Bob Yari, who produced two of Norton's movies, The Illusionist and The Painted Veil. ''You have to be prepared. You are not dealing with an actor who's not going to have an opinion.''
In 1998, Norton cut his own version of Tony Kaye's American History X after battling with the eccentric director. ''Edward is very bright, charismatic, articulate, and aggressive,'' says Steve Tisch, an exec producer of that film. Kaye was taking a long time cutting the film, to everyone's frustration, Tisch says, and Norton simply took matters into his own hands. A decade has since gone by, and Norton has made more than a dozen films without incident. More to the point, Marvel seemed eager for the actor's input. They hired him not only to act but also to rewrite sections of the script, and they let him function as an uncredited producer. Still, Leterrier was nervous. ''The stories I heard about Edward — they scared the bejesus out of me,'' he says. ''I was scared the guy would come in and say, 'All right, you're a little French director who's just done action movies, so you stick to the action and I'll do the drama.''' Did that happen? ''Not at all!'' he says warmly. ''I love the guy. He has a voice; he just wants to be heard. And he hates lip service.''
According to Leterrier, he and his star hit it off beautifully, and there were no issues with Marvel while the movie was being shot. During post-production, though, the relationship with Marvel hit a snag. The company wanted to release the most commercial film possible: lots of action and a running time under two hours. Norton and Leterrier, however, lobbied for a more meditative cut of the film that ran about two hours and 15 minutes. Tempers flared between Norton and Marvel. ''Everyone was exhausted; it was like a little burst,'' Leterrier says. '''I'm angry with you!' 'No, I'm angry with you!' And me in the center saying 'Boys, calm down.' It didn't come to blows. It was just a remark here and there.'' And it would have ended there. But, Leterrier says, ''then it became public.''
On March 11, Nikki Finke's industry blog, Deadline Hollywood Daily, broke news of the scuffle between Marvel and Norton, declaring it a ''feud.'' And suddenly it was. Communication between Norton and Marvel seems to have stopped. ''The press is what kept Edward and Marvel from talking to each other,'' Leterrier says. ''[The argument] was nothing, but then it became something big.'' Norton is honest and forthright, say those who've worked with him, so why hasn't he defused the situation by speaking up? Sources say the actor is worried about being unfairly branded ''a pain in the ass'' by the press. They say he wants The Incredible Hulk to be a hit — and concedes that Marvel's cut, though not what he wanted, is more commercial than his. ''He's very Zen about it,'' says a source.
On April 14, after more than a month of negotiations about whether Norton would or would not be interviewed for this story, the actor's publicist e-mailed EW an exclusive 257-word statement, approved in advance by Marvel and Universal (read the full text below). ''Every good movie gets forged through collaboration, and different ideas among people who are all committed, and respect the validity of each other's opinions, is the heart of filmmaking,'' he wrote, in part. ''Regrettably, our healthy process, which is and should be a private matter, was misrepresented publicly as a 'dispute,' seized on by people looking for a good story, and has been distorted to such a degree that it risks distracting from the film itself, which Marvel, Universal and I refuse to let happen.'' Maybe that's for the best. The Hulk wants to be a movie star, and he doesn't take disappointment lightly. —Additional reporting by Sean Smith and Nicole Sperling
THE FULL TEXT OF EDWARD NORTON'S E-MAILED STATEMENT
"Like so many people I've loved the story of The Hulk since I was a kid, so it was thrilling when Marvel asked me to write and help produce an altogether new screen incarnation, as well as play Bruce Banner. I grew up reading Marvel Comics and always loved the mythic dimension and contemporary themes in the stories, and I’m proud of the script I wrote. In every phase of production, including the editing, working with Louis Leterrier has been wonderful...I've never had a better partner, and the collaboration with all the rest of the creative team has been terrific. Every good movie gets forged through collaboration, and different ideas among people who are all committed and respect the validity of each other's opinions is the heart of filmmaking. Regrettably, our healthy process, which is and should be a private matter, was misrepresented publicly as a 'dispute,' seized on by people looking for a good story, and has been distorted to such a degree that it risks distracting from the film itself, which Marvel, Universal and I refuse to let happen. It has always been my firm conviction that films should speak for themselves and that knowing too much about how they are made diminishes the magic of watching them. All of us believe The Incredible Hulk will excite old fans and create new ones and be a huge hit...our focus has always been to deliver the Hulk that people have been waiting for and keep the worldwide love affair with the big green guy going strong.''
The Dream Master
04-17-2008, 04:47 AM
Well, I certainly hope the same thing doesn't happen with The Dark Knight. After Ang Lee's Hulk was consisdered to be too dramatic and moody, I'm not surprised that Marvel wants a more straightforward movie. At least we'll surely see the uncut version of DVD and won't have to wait years for it like we did with the Donner Cut of Superman 2.
The One and Only
04-30-2008, 09:56 PM
New trailer for all you Hulkamaniacs out there. (http://www.joblo.com/arrow/index.php?id=12011)
El Rooto
04-30-2008, 10:02 PM
Can't wait to see this.
Apocalypto
04-30-2008, 10:18 PM
Great trailer, I'm actually more pumped for this than Dark Knight.
Hulk kicking the shit out of the military was great. I'm still worried about a near half hour long fight getting boring though.
Sean [The Wildcard]
04-30-2008, 10:55 PM
New trailer has me hooked in even more.
Hopefully, and surely, it'll tear the first one a new asshole.
:p
DouglasJ
05-01-2008, 11:03 AM
Loved it, especially the little burst of "The Lonely Man" at the end.
The One and Only
05-07-2008, 05:40 AM
Anyone here notice Brodski is the trailer chewing out General Ross for loosing control of one of his experiemnts again.
Yup. Nevermind Abomination, Brodski is the one who should go against Hulk in a 26 minute slugfest.
The One and Only
05-07-2008, 06:04 AM
^He'd take down the Green Goliath in a vicious sleeper hold.;)
Scarecrow
05-07-2008, 08:58 AM
I liked Ang Lee's film but this certainly looks to be more accessible and true to the comics.
- Scarecrow
Lammert
05-07-2008, 09:14 AM
Can't wait to see this... it's somekind of a sequel right? I'm hoping for more action and less drama.
Apocalypto
05-07-2008, 10:39 PM
Yup. Nevermind Abomination, Brodski is the one who should go against Hulk in a 26 minute slugfest.
The director said he was misquoted about the 26 minute fight, he was referring to the length of the final act.
CanadianFonzie
05-11-2008, 03:40 AM
I saw the trailer of this film today before seeing Iron Man, I know this is filmed in Toronto at U of T so it will be interesting to see how that turns out, I really can't wait because I never even bothered watching "Hulk", I could tell just by the title leaving out "The Incredible" from the title that it wouldn't be good, and there was the crumby trailer, than there was everyone I know saying the mvie was crap, but this new one looks great
As I said in the Iron Man thread (again I haven't read any previous posts so I don't know if this has been discussed, while I'm sure it has) there should be a little something after the ending credits like on Iron Man, and as I hear Robert Downey Jr. will be along side Samuel L. Jackson in inviting Bruce to the Avengers again, I'm betting that has already been idscussed so I appologize for being repetitive, but I'm ssure the same thign will happen for the Thor and Captain America movies coming out...actually I know that the same thing will happen
I'm still worried about a near half hour long fight getting boring though.
I would love that actually.
I didn't get bored at Helm's Deep, nor at the Battle of the Pelennor Fields. This won't be an issue for me.
Apocalypto
05-11-2008, 04:16 AM
The actual amount of screen time that those take up is under a half hour, and those battles had thousands of people with different segments of the battles going on all over the place...it wasn't just a 1 on 1 fight.
Okay, let me put it this way then. If you put all of Neo and Agent Smith's fights from all three Matrix films together it would be nearly an hour (Roughly), I wouldn't be bored by the end of that.
sCabbOy
05-11-2008, 05:19 AM
Is it just me or does the CG (Hulk) in this movie look absolutely ridiculous?
Just you.
I think they finally got him right.
Apocalypto
05-11-2008, 08:13 AM
I think he looks, at best, as good as he did in the Ang Lee film (which was very good).
Scarecrow
05-11-2008, 08:50 AM
Some great nods to the TV series as well, which is cool as most people remember the chartacetr from that.
- Scarecrow
As I said in the Iron Man thread (again I haven't read any previous posts so I don't know if this has been discussed, while I'm sure it has) there should be a little something after the ending credits like on Iron Man, and as I hear Robert Downey Jr. will be along side Samuel L. Jackson in inviting Bruce to the Avengers again, I'm betting that has already been idscussed so I appologize for being repetitive, but I'm ssure the same thign will happen for the Thor and Captain America movies coming out...actually I know that the same thing will happen
I've heard it a bit differently - that Tony Stark is in a restaurant scene with Thunderbolt Ross - but I look forward to it either way.
I love this Avengers build up idea, hopefully the rest of the Avengers-to-be's movies will be as good as Iron Man.
CanadianFonzie
05-12-2008, 01:46 AM
actually today someone just told me something like what you suggest, just not as specific, again either way it would be cool, and I could still see my theory coming into play
Monkey
05-14-2008, 12:29 AM
...I love this Avengers build up idea, hopefully the rest of the Avengers-to-be's movies will be as good as Iron Man.
I'm hoping for that as well. Iron Man was great, and the Incredible Hulk looks like it will be another great flick (judging by what little I've seen in the previews).
I wasn't looking forward to this movie at all, until I saw the trailers. Since it looks like Tony Stark will be in this movie and the Avengers build up is happening, I can't wait to see this movie now.
, I heard that they might try something similar with Batman, Superman, and other DC characters (justice league/superfriends).
DouglasJ
05-16-2008, 09:10 AM
Just to say, on the official site, you can now hear a lot more of the re-jigged version of The Lonely Man (sad walking away song) from the original TV Series
http://incrediblehulk.marvel.com/index_flash.html
Lammert
05-16-2008, 10:32 AM
The first HULK movie was ok... Ang Lee tried to many artistic stuff. But the action scenes were awesome!
I'm curious about this one, I would love to see more action scenes with the Hulk fighting Thunderbolt's army...
I didn't hate Ang Lee's Hulk, but this one is gonna kill it dead. Everything about this film is infinitely better (IMHO), from the choice of actors, the look of the Hulk, the title, right to it merging the comic version and TV version. I can't wait!
El Rooto
05-16-2008, 09:58 PM
I didn't hate Ang Lee's Hulk, but this one is gonna kill it dead. Everything about this film is infinitely better (IMHO), from the choice of actors, the look of the Hulk, the title, right to it merging the comic version and TV version. I can't wait!
I was never a big fan of the TV version, so maybe that's why I don't think it looks infinitely better.
I think it's gonna blow you away MM, even if you weren't a fan of the show.
El Rooto
05-17-2008, 04:09 AM
I think it looks awesome, even if I don't think it's going to kick the shit out of Ang Lee's Hulk.
For me, it wasn't the character drama that made the first Hulk bad (I love character drama), in fact, I didn't think it was a bad film at all (Just not as good as it could have been.) I didn't like the look of the Hulk in that film, and I didn't like that he grew to Godzilla size. Other than that, Ang Lee rules.
Jack Bauer
05-17-2008, 04:38 AM
For some reason, I love Ang Lee's Hulk. I just love the whole aspect that it was in fact a comic book film. Comic panels, the Hulk getting more powerful when he got really angry. The only thing that a comic book film needs is the bubbles, and I hope that the Deadpool film has them or he talks directly at the camera.
The One and Only
06-09-2008, 05:49 AM
Spoilerific TV ad for the flick, smashing theaters this Friday. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOq0BD_Eiig&fmt=18)
The Dark Vampire
06-12-2008, 09:49 PM
Watched this today and it blows the 1st Hulk out of the freaking water it's smeging great.
Good story great fight scenes and watch out for major spoilers aheadTony Stark is at the end talking about getting a team together (Avengers maybe?-- S.H.I.E.L.D is also mentioned and a Super Soldier from WW2 is mentioned (they didn't say a name but it's obviously going to be Captain America
Going see this Saturday afternoon. I've never seen The Hulk so I'm not really knowing what to expect. I really just can't see Edward Norton as the Hulk, but we'll see.
Apocalypto
06-13-2008, 07:49 AM
Human element isn't as involving as Ang Lee's movie, but it isn't as lacking as I was worried it'd be, and General Ross was a little too much of an asshole up until the last 15 minutes, but the cast was good, the visuals are great, it's funny without being hokey and stupid like other comic book movies (Spider Man), and it's definitely a bigger adrenaline rush than Ang's movie (which I loved).
There are atleast two or three moments that had me wanting to jump out of the chair and shout at the screen "COME HULK! GET UP!" and
"HULK...SMASH!" as the entire audience bursts out cheering is what great theatrical experiences are all about.
I'm not sure if it's quite as good as Iron Man (although it was a far more satisfying finale) or the original, very underrated HULK film, but it gave me everything that I wanted without most of the flaws I was worried about.
TheShowstoppa
06-13-2008, 08:12 AM
Personally I thought this film blew Ang Lee's film out of the water. It was such a great film. Not amazing but good. Definitely not as good as Iron man though.
And I'll agree FINALLY hearing Hulk say HULK SMASH kicked my ass!!!
Scarecrow
06-13-2008, 09:17 AM
Does this in any way outright contradict Ang Lee's or does it more sort of ignore it?
- Scarecrow
TheShowstoppa
06-13-2008, 09:23 AM
Both. Explination: Banner starts off in Brazil after being "incident free" for some 150 + days. The opening sequence shows Banner going through some test that sets off his Hulk self and he goes on a rampage. It doesn't reaccount anything you don't already know from the first movie - so it's not exactly a reboot. But a lot of the information we already know from the first leaks its way into this movie...
Or at least I think it does. In any event - It's a better installment, but there's so much more to look forward to. Don't read on from here unless you want spoiled about something!!!
What's the deal with the Mr. Blue and the blood dripping on his head and him smiling? Anyone share some insight since I never read Hulk growing up?
DouglasJ
06-13-2008, 09:25 AM
Does this in any way outright contradict Ang Lee's or does it more sort of ignore it?
- Scarecrow
It contradicts it, gives a totally different version of the origin that doesn't fit with Ang Lee's Hulk at all.
Apocalypto
06-13-2008, 10:56 AM
Yeah, it seemed to me that it was totally contradicting and disregarding Ang Lee's movie.
CanadianFonzie
06-13-2008, 02:26 PM
this didn't get the best review in the paper...is it really not that good?
I enjoyed it. It pretty much is the polar opposite of Ang Lee's Hulk, or at least this Marvel cut is - Norton wanted more character stuff in there and the director says there's 70 minutes worth of deleted scenes for the DVD. It's easy, breezy and quick. And a fun watch. I would've liked more character scenes myself, but it worked alright as it is.
And given that I was roped into bringing my 4 year old nephew along, it really worked out that it was a quick popcorn flick because he was already antsy enough during the non-Hulk scenes. Taking him to something along the lines of the '03 version would've been a toasty hell.
Gringo Loco
06-14-2008, 12:48 AM
I saw it today. I liked it ALOT. I liked the tie ins to Iron Man and I believe they are setting up an Avengers? movie. I can't wait for what Marvel does next. I wish DC would do something like what Marvel is doing. I want to see Batman and Superman on the big screen.
Special Killa B
06-14-2008, 12:57 AM
Both. Explination: Banner starts off in Brazil after being "incident free" for some 150 + days. The opening sequence shows Banner going through some test that sets off his Hulk self and he goes on a rampage. It doesn't reaccount anything you don't already know from the first movie - so it's not exactly a reboot. But a lot of the information we already know from the first leaks its way into this movie...
Or at least I think it does. In any event - It's a better installment, but there's so much more to look forward to. Don't read on from here unless you want spoiled about something!!!
What's the deal with the Mr. Blue and the blood dripping on his head and him smiling? Anyone share some insight since I never read Hulk growing up?
Mr. Blue aka Dr. Samuel Sterns later becomes one of Hulk's enemies known as The Leader after his exposer to Banner's blood.
El Rooto
06-14-2008, 12:57 AM
I was a bit underwhelmed by this flick. Blonsky was underdeveloped, and his motivation for turning on Ross seemed shaky at best.
But it was still good. 7.5/10.
CanadianFonzie
06-14-2008, 01:11 AM
I saw it today. I liked it ALOT. I liked the tie ins to Iron Man and I believe they are setting up an Avengers? movie. I can't wait for what Marvel does next. I wish DC would do something like what Marvel is doing. I want to see Batman and Superman on the big screen.
yes they are making an Avengers movie and yes they are making a Justice League movie
Gringo Loco
06-14-2008, 01:12 AM
I thought the JLA movie got postponed or canceled?
CanadianFonzie
06-14-2008, 01:15 AM
I don't know the news, only that Batman is not gonna be played by Christian Bale and Superman isn't gonna be played by...that guywho plays Superman, I also know it was definitelly not cancelled
Lance Lives
06-14-2008, 04:49 AM
I find it cool that Marvel is setting up it's own movie universe. It's kinda like comics...it's also like advertising your own movies but hey, that's alright I guess. I wonder if they would be able to get Ed Norton and Downey Jr. for the Avengers movie?
Also, last I heard, that JL movie was just about dead.
The Dream Master
06-14-2008, 04:54 AM
The Justice League movie has been off and on, and I think the latest word is that it's back on.
As for this, I enjoyed the hell out of it. The Marvel films this year have been two for two in terms of delivering a good time at the movies. I was one of the people that actually liked the Lee film a few years back, but I thought this was even better than that. I can't wait to see the director's cut that restores even more character moments because I absolutely loved Norton here. I didn't dislike Bana's take on the character, but that performance just seems lacking and dull compared to what Norton gave us. Absolutely fabulous film here.
Darth Sinister
06-14-2008, 04:18 PM
No, the JLA movie has been tabled. Meaning it's not going to happen for a while. Green Lantern and Green Arrow films are moving forward. GL is being written by Michael ("Heroes" & "Superman"/Batman") Green and Marc ("Eli Stone" & "Amazing Spider-Man") Guggenheim, while "Green Arrow: Super Max" is being written by David ("Blade" Trilogy, "Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight") Goyer.
CosmoBubba
06-14-2008, 08:19 PM
I find it cool that Marvel is setting up it's own movie universe. It's kinda like comics...it's also like advertising your own movies but hey, that's alright I guess. I wonder if they would be able to get Ed Norton and Downey Jr. for the Avengers movie?
Also, last I heard, that JL movie was just about dead.
I'm sure they could get Robert Downey Jr. back, because he's done interviews saying how much he enjoyed playing Tony Stark. He said he'd do fifteen Iron Man sequels if they asked him to, so I'm sure he wouldn't say no to an Avengers movie. Don't know about Ed Norton, though.
And I think it'd be for the best if the Justice League movie died for now. I hadn't heard a single good piece of news coming out of the movie, especially in the wake of the writers' strike. I still say if they're serious about a JL movie, Warner Brothers and DC should put together something like Marvel Studios, where they could get one core group of people working to put these things together. Besides, if they created DC Studios, we might actually get to see more than two or three DC movies a decade. :p
Apocalypto
06-14-2008, 11:40 PM
The Justice League movie has been off and on, and I think the latest word is that it's back on.
As for this, I enjoyed the hell out of it. The Marvel films this year have been two for two in terms of delivering a good time at the movies. I was one of the people that actually liked the Lee film a few years back, but I thought this was even better than that. I can't wait to see the director's cut that restores even more character moments because I absolutely loved Norton here. I didn't dislike Bana's take on the character, but that performance just seems lacking and dull compared to what Norton gave us. Absolutely fabulous film here.
I know that quite a bit of footage was deleted, but do we actually know there's going to be a director's cut?
The Dream Master
06-15-2008, 08:07 AM
Well, it's been ambiguous, really. The director has indicated that there's 70 minutes of footage that's going to show up on the home video release, but it's not indicated if any of it will actually be re-inserted.
I would guess that we'll get the cut that the director and Norton wanted when it comes to DVD, but I doubt that includes all 70 minutes of material. Last I heard, Norton was pushing for a 130+ minute runtime, but the studio wanted something less than 2 hours (which is what we got).
CosmoBubba
06-15-2008, 03:53 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if a director's cut of the movie were released. It'd probably get sent out to DVD a year after the theatrical version comes out, since it seems like that's usually how it goes with these things.
Besides, if Daredevil, Elektra, Fantastic Four, Spider-Man 2, and The Punisher can get extended editions, why not The Incredible Hulk?
I thought it was great. That's been my consensus on a lot of films lately, but it really was fantastic. I loved the HULK SMASH! part and also the part at the end with Tony Stark talking to the General about recruiting Bruce to the Avengers Initiative. The only thing that bugged me was the fact that Elizabeth kept saying "Bruce?" like she was freaking Katie Holmes in Batman Begins. Other than that, I liked it.
Geddy Peart
06-17-2008, 07:28 PM
I saw it yesterday and loved it! Definitely one of my favorite superhero films. And loved how they referrenced the old tv show by working "The Lonely Man" into the score as well as having Bruce's gamma accident resembling what happened on the show. By the way did anyone else notice that in the beginning when Bruce is channel surfing he comes across an old t.v. that's starring Bill Bixby? I thought it was cool that they slipped that in there. Also did any other MMA fans notice that Bruce's martial arts instructor in Brazil was Rickson Gracie? Thought that was awesome to.
But what I really loved was that it had a really great story and characterization to go along with the action. Call me a softy but I really liked the Bruce/Betty love story. Also looking forward to how they bring Iron Man, The Hulk and Captain America together for The Avengers.
The Dark Vampire
06-23-2008, 12:28 PM
If they are working on an Avengers movie have the different movie company's agreed to work together?
As Universal owns Iron Man and Paramount own the Hulk (or is it the other way around?
But for Iron Man/Tony Stark to even make the cameo in Hulk they must be some kind of a deal been made
Anyway saw it for the and time and thought it was great I took Jake the 2nd time and he loved it especially the smashing things up bits
DouglasJ
06-23-2008, 05:00 PM
If they are working on an Avengers movie have the different movie company's agreed to work together?
As Universal owns Iron Man and Paramount own the Hulk (or is it the other way around?
But for Iron Man/Tony Stark to even make the cameo in Hulk they must be some kind of a deal been made
Anyway saw it for the and time and thought it was great I took Jake the 2nd time and he loved it especially the smashing things up bits
Marvel Studios own the movie rights to both Iron Man & The Incredible Hulk.
Paramount released Iron Man and Universal released The Incredible Hulk, but it was simply distribution deals, not ownership.
In fact Marvel has an exclusive distribution deal with Paramount Pictures. The deal for The Incredible Hulk was made before that, but now Marvel are free to let Paramount distribute any future Hulk films.
The Dream Master
06-23-2008, 07:04 PM
Yeah, Marvel Studios owns all the rights to the characters they're planning to use in the Avengers film: Hulk, Iron Man, Thor, and Captain America. I guess Ant Man might be included in there too, but I'm not sure if he's going to be in the film.
You won't be seeing any crossovers between say, Spider-Man and the X-Men because Sony and Fox still own each property.
Darth Sinister
06-23-2008, 08:56 PM
It's possible that Ant-Man will be in the Avengers film. No real reason that he wouldn't be that I can think of.
The Dark Vampire
06-23-2008, 09:12 PM
I wonder if She Hulk or Grey Hulk will be in Hulk 2 (if there is one) or Avengers.
I also wonder if they will make Solo movies for at least Captain America (I hear there is one planned) and Thor before Avengers? and if Iron Man and Hulk will still get do make more solo movies as well as Avengers?
PS
The original plan for Hulk 2 (when they were making it as a sequel to the first version) was that Betty Ross would become She Hulk frm what I read it would of been even worse then the 1st one the only good thing was Grey Hulk was planned
Darth Sinister
06-24-2008, 02:37 AM
Captain America will have a film which is supposed to come out a month before the Avengers film. I never heard that one about Hulk 2. Just that the Gray Hulk was planned.
The Dream Master
06-24-2008, 04:38 AM
It's possible that Ant-Man will be in the Avengers film. No real reason that he wouldn't be that I can think of.
It seems like they left him out when they were talking about building towards the Avengers film a couple of months back, but I could be mistaken. And I get the feeling that they hadn't announced a second Hulk film because they weren't sure how well the most recent one did. I have a feeling that we'll see another one before the Avengers film hits the screen. In fact, if they set up the Avengers as a means of stopping the Hulk, I think it'd be wise for them to do another Hulk film first.
The Dark Vampire
06-24-2008, 04:40 AM
If that is the case they we MUST see Iron Man's Hulk Busting Suit
All I've got to say about the new movie The Incredible Hulk is that it was damn awesome! Hulk Smash!!!!!!!!!
hack slash
06-24-2008, 04:44 PM
The Movie Stop near my house is already taking pre-orders for the DVD even though there is no release date
Darth Sinister
06-25-2008, 02:54 AM
It seems like they left him out when they were talking about building towards the Avengers film a couple of months back, but I could be mistaken. And I get the feeling that they hadn't announced a second Hulk film because they weren't sure how well the most recent one did. I have a feeling that we'll see another one before the Avengers film hits the screen. In fact, if they set up the Avengers as a means of stopping the Hulk, I think it'd be wise for them to do another Hulk film first.
I don't know about this film. I was refering to the last one, regarding it getting a sequel. I think they might sequeeze another film in. If Norton will go for it, based on the whole ordeal regarding credit and the running time. But the Avengers fighting the Hulk is similar to the early issues of said book, though he was a member first before they threw down. Which then lead to the issue of Spider-Man, where in order to join, he had to confront him. Which was their second encounter. Since that story won't happen, I'm guessing most everything else and some of "Ultimates" will be used as a template.
hack slash
06-28-2008, 07:55 PM
took my son to see it last night and it kicked ass, very well done. I'd say it's every bit as good as Iron Man maybe even a little better
Joshg
06-30-2008, 05:46 AM
6/10
Just watched this. Enjoyable, and sooooo much better than the 2003 Hulk movie. Then again, there wasn't much chance for it being worse. :D
Action-packed, though a bit cheesy, I found it great for a one night watch. Not amazing, but worth every penny at the theater. Rent it!
DrLar
07-04-2008, 02:19 PM
I don't know man... the CGI looks very cheesy, almost as cheesy as the first flick... couldn't they do a Hellboy type effect? they should learn from the masters...
The CGI is stopping me to go see this movie...
The Dream Master
07-04-2008, 06:36 PM
The CGI in this film looked no more "cheesy" than what I've seen from the Hellboy trailers. There's no other way to realize the Hulk, and I think they did a great job with it.
Darth Sinister
07-04-2008, 07:14 PM
The only way to realize the Hulk like Hellboy, is to have an actor wear green grease paint and a wig. CGI is required to make the Hulk look like he does in the comics.
http://www.comicbookdb.com/graphics/comic_graphics/1/64/18942_20060424130927_large.jpg
DrLar
07-04-2008, 08:55 PM
When they do a more realistic Hulk, where the actor is the actual Hulk, is not far from now to do that, camera effects can mostly make the actor look way bigger and costume effects helps with muscles.
To this day I'm still wondering why Hulk isn't naked... spandex? LOL
Geddy Peart
07-10-2008, 01:19 PM
Latest "Hulk" may not spawn a sequel
http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/va/20080709/121559147200.html
Wednesday July 9 1:17 AM ET
It's a tale of two movies, with an oddly similar ending.
Five years ago, "Hulk," the first movie based on Marvel's hulking green comic book character, rang up $245 million in worldwide box office but was widely dismissed as a commercial failure.
The second attempt, "The Incredible Hulk," amped up the fun factor and dialed down the brooding of director Ang Lee's original but is unlikely to gross significantly higher than its predecessor and might not spawn a sequel. And it's been dubbed a success.
What gives?
"We're happy with the financial results, even if they (only) reach the first film's levels," a Marvel insider insisted. "Having a sequel is not the definition of success."
That's fortunate, as even outpacing the first film's worldwide haul by 10% looks optimistic at this point, and that's not likely to stoke enthusiasm for a franchise follow-up anytime soon.
After four weekends, the Louis Leterrier-directed "The Incredible Hulk" has earned $125 million, the same as what "Hulk" had pulled in at the same time in its run. "Hulk" finished with $132 million, and its successor is unlikely to do much better.
Its foreign rollout is still in progress, with comics-friendly Japan among the territories the remake has yet to bow, but it appears likely that the Edward Norton starrer will struggle to reach $130 million internationally. The first film tallied $113.2 million overseas.
Action films tend to outperform internationally, though comic book adaptations can be a different matter if the fan base skews American. Marvel touts the Hulk comic franchise as its second most popular worldwide, after Spider-Man.
"All we can say as a studio is that we are very pleased with the result," Universal domestic distribution president Nikki Rocco said.
Despite the similarity of the Hulk films' theatrical runs, industryites suggest the lighter tone of the second film makes it more the vehicle to generate sequels, and some suggest the remake will prove a more lucrative DVD title than the Eric Bana-starring original. On the other hand, production costs and marketing expenses were steeper the second time around, totaling more than $200 million. The first film cost about $150 million to make.
Still, the dark original so turned off the Hulk character's fanboy base as to require a complete reworking of its big-screen rendering before a film franchise could be christened.
But Marvel has yet to greenlight a Hulk sequel. So other observers suggest the films' most important distinction lies simply in how well market expectations were managed in advance of their respective bows.
"Hollywood is always about perception," said David Davis, managing partner and entertainment analyst at Arpeggio Partners in Los Angeles. "The first Hulk (movie) had such high expectations after the NBC-Universal merger and was supposed to be critical-favorite Ang Lee's breakout commercial blockbuster.
"Then with the new Hulk film, Marvel was able to underplay the importance of the success after the great success of 'Iron Man' this summer," Davis said. "So the new one overdelivered, relative to its underpromise."
The Marvel-produced, Paramount-distributed "Iron Man" has fetched more than $563 million at the worldwide box office.
Reuters/Hollywood Reporter
If this is true, maybe Marvel will save Hulk's next appearance for The Avengers.
I would like there to be a sequel to The Incredible Hulk. That movie kicked way too much ass to have no sequel until The Avengers.
Hulk Smash!!!
i am SAW
08-04-2008, 04:18 PM
i didn't like this. the story was uninteresting and the CGI sucked. watching cartoon monsters fight in a live movie doesn't do anything for me. that's what ruined I Am Legend for me too, the overly goofy CGI monsters. what was with the Hulk's pants? there's no way any pair he wore would still be on his body at all after he grew 100x his size. the only thing i liked was William Hurt's performance.
Have you ever taken a look at an Incredible Hulk comic book? It is called science fiction. This movie was an absolute perfect representation of the character of the literature. The special effects were spectacular. Computer imagery is the only way to do an acurate representation of the character and this time, they did it right.
i am SAW
08-04-2008, 06:21 PM
Have you ever taken a look at an Incredible Hulk comic book?
no.
It is called science fiction.
they had the scene with her buying him a new pair of pants and they mentioned the fact that they'd stretch. he still grew way too big for ANY of those pants to still be on him after he grew. if they're going to make it a point to point out that fact, at least buy him a hot air balloon sized pair that actually would fit after he grew. don't try to have it make sense, only to once again make it senseless.
The special effects were spectacular. Computer imagery is the only way to do an acurate representation of the character and this time, they did it right.
some people don't like CGI blood in horror movies, i don't like CGI monsters in action movies.
This movie was an absolute perfect representation of the character of the literature.
it probably is, i just didn't like it.
El Rooto
08-04-2008, 08:00 PM
Oh, so you would have preferred it if you saw the Hulk's naked green ass while he was smashing things? I guess the filmmakers thought that if you could suspend disbelief to the point where you can watch a man who gets pissed off and turns into a raging monster without raising flags, than you could handle the Hulk's shorts not ripping in half.
CGI is a necessity for many(not all) superhero movies. The Hulk and The Incredible Hulk are two films that require CGI.
Darth Sinister
08-04-2008, 08:25 PM
Have you ever taken a look at an Incredible Hulk comic book?
no.
Well, there you go. There's your problem. You've never read a Hulk comic. Otherwise, you'd know this about the character.
http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o170/darth-ermac/AVENGCL003.jpg
The man has always been big and has always had pants that stay on when logic says otherwise. As pointed out, no one wants to see Hulk's wang.
As to sequels, Kevin Fiege confirmed that there will be a sequel during comic con.
i am SAW
08-04-2008, 10:15 PM
The man has always been big and has always had pants that stay on when logic says otherwise.
then they should have left it that way, just "magic stretching pants". instead they actually made it a point to dedicate a whole scene to the subject. making it seem as though he'd be able to find a pair that had the ability to stretch to his size. i didn't like the rest of the movie either, so it really doesn't matter. i was just saying that scene stuck out as the dumbest scene, IMO.
FilmSchoolRejects (http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/found-captain-america-in-the-incredible-hulk.php) have found the deleted cameo by frozen Captain America('s snow-covered shield).
Gringo Loco
10-12-2008, 02:24 AM
I can't see shit!
The Dark Vampire
10-12-2008, 08:43 AM
I can't see shit!
I saw it but only because I copied the pic to my PC and enlarged it an and even then the only reason I could tell what it was is because I knew already
DouglasJ
10-15-2008, 04:40 PM
Picked up the Bluray on Monday, just sat down and watched it today. I still like the flick, it works well. I hope Norton and Marvel can come to some agreement concerning a sequel/The Avengers. In a recent interview he did seem open to the idea. Apparently the "feud" between the actor and studio is greatly exaggerated.
Steve
10-16-2008, 12:27 AM
I thought this wasn't to be released until October 21. Who did you find that broke street date? :p
DouglasJ
10-16-2008, 08:59 AM
I thought this wasn't to be released until October 21. Who did you find that broke street date? :p
It came out a couple of days ago here in the UK. We're not getting Iron Man for another week and a half though.
The Dark Vampire
10-16-2008, 09:06 AM
I'm getting both online to get the steel case
While we got Hulk first in the US there is a 3 disc edition whereas the UK only gets the 2 and that's not available everywhere so far I've only found 2 shops to have it and they are a even dearer than the special steel case edition
DouglasJ
10-16-2008, 09:18 AM
The third disc in the US release, sadly, is just a digital copy of the movie.
I's rather pay extra for a 3-disc edition and only get a digital copy of the movie on the 3rd disc than get cheated out of my special features with the 1-disc version, since they don't have a 2-disc available.
Nightstalker
10-17-2008, 12:10 AM
I ordered the 3 disk.Its only 2 or 3 dollars more then the single disk and I want to check out all the extras.
The Dark Vampire
10-17-2008, 12:17 AM
Yeah it's the same over here there is hardily any price difference between the 1 or 2 disc editions and in fact the "Special Steel Case 2 Disc Edition" is £2 cheaper than the sanded 2 disc edition
The Terminator
10-26-2008, 07:01 AM
Bought the 3 disc version at Target yesterday. Good stuff! The extras on the second disc definately make forking over the extra cash worth it.
jasonlives13
10-26-2008, 07:44 AM
Does anyone know if the extras on the second disc, have like a history of the hulk in the comics documentry, daredevil had one that lasted for nearly an hour, spiderman had a 25 minute one etc, though the eric bana one didnt, but I do know that iron man has, and im just a sucker for that shit
The Terminator
10-26-2008, 08:10 AM
Does anyone know if the extras on the second disc, have like a history of the hulk in the comics documentry, daredevil had one that lasted for nearly an hour, spiderman had a 25 minute one etc, though the eric bana one didnt, but I do know that iron man has, and im just a sucker for that shit
Yeah, theres a documentary on the second disc that goes over the history of the Hulk. From the comics, to the Ferrigno/Bixby series, to Ang Lee's HULK, and finally The Incredible Hulk.
But heres the catch:
It's only about 13 minutes. :sniffle:
jasonlives13
10-26-2008, 08:26 AM
Yeah, theres a documentary on the second disc that goes over the history of the Hulk. From the comics, to the Ferrigno/Bixby series, to Ang Lee's HULK, and finally The Incredible Hulk.
But heres the catch:
It's only about 13 minutes. :sniffle:
That is fuckin pathetic :mad:, sorry bout the language but that does my head in, it should of at least been 40 minutes, yet they'll shove shit in like special effects documentry, and other garbage to fill the dvd, when it could of been thought out and give people a proper documentry
The Terminator
10-26-2008, 09:21 AM
That is fuckin pathetic :mad:, sorry bout the language but that does my head in, it should of at least been 40 minutes, yet they'll shove shit in like special effects documentry, and other garbage to fill the dvd, when it could of been thought out and give people a proper documentry
Yeah, I know where you are coming from. If it was anything like the documentary found on the Daredevil DVD, or some of those documentaries found on the Batman 1989 SE, I would be very pleased.
I'm actually surprised that the Ang Lee film was even acknowledged to be perfectly honest. But they only talk about it for maybe a minute.
jasonlives13
10-26-2008, 09:46 AM
Yeah, I know where you are coming from. If it was anything like the documentary found on the Daredevil DVD, or some of those documentaries found on the Batman 1989 SE, I would be very pleased.
I'm actually surprised that the Ang Lee film was even acknowledged to be perfectly honest. But they only talk about it for maybe a minute.
Yeah but unfourtunetly not, heck thats the reason why i buy two disc comic book movie dvds, I like seeing stuff from the old comics and people who worked on the comic talkin about it, and batman begins didnt have one either, and I doubt the dark knight will :cry:
The Terminator
10-26-2008, 09:55 AM
Well there is another documentary on TIH disc 2 going over Loeb & McGuiness' current HULK comics, but it's pretty short as well.
jasonlives13
10-26-2008, 10:42 AM
Well there is another documentary on TIH disc 2 going over Loeb & McGuiness' current HULK comics, but it's pretty short as well.
Still short though they could of combined the both of them and added more
The Terminator
10-26-2008, 11:25 AM
Still short though they could of combined the both of them and added more
I dont even know why they even bothered with that one.
Seriously ... like 95% of fans constantly bitch and moan about the new HULk series. And to have a featurette where Loeb & McGuiness gush on about how great it is just makes me think why was it necessary?
Hell, that time and effort could have gone into the Stan Lee, and Jack Kirby days. Or even the time Busema was a regular artist (and a long time artist as well thru the 1970's) on the Hulk.
*sigh*
When it comes to Batman, Daredevil, Superman Spider-Man, and even the Fantastic Four ... we get some pretty good featurettes and documentaries. When it comes to the Hulk, completely different story. :shifty:
Voorheeszilla
04-21-2010, 07:52 AM
Thought I'd bump this thread because this is one of my favorite films of all time, and I think it's much better than the '03 film, which I felt had too much baggage. TIH gets right down to what it's all about, and without tacking on bullshit along the way. I also felt the design for the Hulk was much better, and the inclusion of the Abomination, whom got a badass redesign, was brilliant, especially since his alter ego was portrayed by Tim Roth.
If there's any justice in the world at all this film will get a sequel soon.
Darth Sinister
04-21-2010, 09:22 PM
The 03 film wasn't entirely bad. Just wasn't paced correctly. But yeah, that Hulk CGI design isn't as good as the 08 film.
Voorheeszilla
04-21-2010, 10:37 PM
It's not a completely bad film, true, but the pacing is so bad that everytime I attempt to watch it, I literally fall asleep. With the '08 film, the film was better paced, and was more along the lines of what a Hulk film should be. Plus, I had grown up on the TV series, and watched it every chance I got, so I loved the fact that certain aspects of the show were incorporated into the film.
Matt326
05-16-2010, 02:22 AM
http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/BringBackEdNorton
go here and sign it!!!!
Michellemabelle
05-16-2010, 03:22 AM
Saw it on another board. And signed it.
The Taff
05-16-2010, 05:44 AM
I signed it. Not that it will matter. Internet petitions don't sway shit.
jasonlives13
05-16-2010, 09:21 AM
I signed it. Not that it will matter. Internet petitions don't sway shit.
This is the truth right here
The Dream Master
05-16-2010, 07:42 PM
I was unaware that there's another Hulk movie in production, much less one without Norton as the title character, so I'm not quite sure what the deal is.
nottidelterrore
05-16-2010, 07:58 PM
http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/43000/Hulk-Hogan--43321.jpg
The Dark Vampire
05-16-2010, 09:21 PM
I was unaware that there's another Hulk movie in production, much less one without Norton as the title character, so I'm not quite sure what the deal is.
Even if there isn't going to be another Hulk Movie it's likely Hulk will play a part in The Avengers Movie
DouglasJ
05-16-2010, 10:46 PM
Most of the concern is about Marvel, right? As far as I understand it Norton has said he is more than willing to come back, but we're unsure about Marvels stance after the unpleasantries?
Voorheeszilla
05-17-2010, 12:55 AM
There has been nothing to state Ed Norton wouldn't appear in another Hulk film. In fact, recently he was quoted as saying "if the fans want me to come back, I'll definitely come back" so I think that if a sequel happens he'll be back in the role more likely than not.
Penhall
05-31-2010, 01:40 AM
I really loved this flick. I enjoyed the '03 version as well, but this one was far superior. I wish it had made more money because I'd love to see a sequel. But as long as we get to see the Hulk again in "The Avengers" (played by Ed Norton) I'll be happy.
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