Halloween III: Season of the Witch (special edition coming?) [Archive]

CampNewBlood

07-24-2007, 07:22 AM

I love this movie. It's different, yes, than the others and some will argue that it shoulda been called Season of the Witch with no Halloween attached to the title.
Others will say that it has no Michael Myers and because of that it is shitty and stupid and pointless.

The movie, IMO, is NOT stupid and pointless. It has an original story and therefore, it is just as credible as a franchise that is repetitive in it's plots, such as the Halloween franchise.

Don't get me wrong, I love the Halloween franchise as much as anyone, but I believe it is unfair to judge this movie solely on the fact that it doesn't continue the Michael Myers storyline. If anything, this movie is more closely associated to what Halloween is actually about.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, yes, but I think you should judge the movie on it's strong points just as much as it's weak points. Hell, the movie has Dick Warlock (Michael Myers in Halloween II), Jamie Lee Curtis' voice (as P.A. announcer), and John Carpenter and Debra Hill are attached to it. Not to mention a kick-ass soundtrack. Those are good things right there to give it a chance.

Ron

07-24-2007, 07:23 PM

I think that if this film was titled simply Season Of The Witch then it would have got the respect it ritefully deserves and not become the brunt of many peoples attack.

The Dream Master

07-24-2007, 10:22 PM

Romero already had a film titled Season of the Witch, so I'm guessing that's why they couldn't use it. Scorsese was going to use that title for "Mean Streets" as well.

Titan

07-24-2007, 10:50 PM

I also loved this film. I get urked when people tell me they hate it just because it's called Halloween and doesn't have Michael in it. It was an original idea and a fun movie to watch.

Ron

07-24-2007, 11:08 PM

It has a really dark feel to it. I'd take this over Ressurection any day.

MaDMaNMaRz

07-25-2007, 02:31 AM

LOVE this movie. It had the look/feel of a John Carpenter film.

It's been said alot already, but if this was released JUST as Season of the Witch, it'd be a cult classic right now.

I'd really like to see a SE of this. I think this movie deserves it.

Ron

07-25-2007, 03:09 AM

Tom Atkins is also a good actor with a lot of charisma.

Wheatjedi

07-25-2007, 04:21 AM

CampNewBlood

07-25-2007, 04:44 AM

LOL......wish I could go to all those conventions. :(

nickmeece

07-25-2007, 06:54 AM

Well I'm glad I can discuss this movie here. Whenever I try to mention it to friends I get the usual response, "Isn't that the one without Michael Myers? That one's gay." But it's not! It's actually a really good and suspensful movie with a very ballsy Terminator 3-like ending...I love it.

CampNewBlood

07-25-2007, 08:11 AM

I didn't know Halloween III was a homosexual movie.

Why don't people say, "That's straight.".....I guess because it would sound as stupid as saying something is "gay".....unless you are referring to someone's sexual orientation or lifestyle or saying they are happy.

I know this is off topic, but....

Ron

07-25-2007, 08:33 AM

Tom Atkins rocks. I met him last month, and he was so beyond cool. I almost squealed when I saw him, but I remembered I'm a guy and not a 13-year-old girl. I quickly composed myself, and all was good. :)

yeah, Tom Atkins was awesome in Maniac Cop. his character reminded me of Loomis kinda.

kramerfan

07-25-2007, 04:08 PM

This is ok for what it is.It should have been calld something else thou.

Melanie Jarvis

07-25-2007, 04:58 PM

Yeah, this movie is actually pretty good, but it's the way that they tried to make it part of the Halloween series that people hated. I mean, at least it had the Halloween setting and everything, but Michael should have popped in somewhere, just to say hi.

nickmeece

07-25-2007, 05:03 PM

Well, there was the trailer for HALLOWEEN playing in the bar...so he sort of did.

Ron

07-26-2007, 01:57 AM

Michael was still healing from his burns.

Wheatjedi

07-26-2007, 05:29 AM

I was listening to the CD for this film earlier today. I love the score!! Of course, now I have the Silver Shamrock jingle stuck in my head.

Ron

07-26-2007, 09:39 AM

I was listening to the CD for this film earlier today. I love the score!! Of course, now I have the Silver Shamrock jingle stuck in my head.

I feel your pain.. I had Stayin' Alive stuck in my head once for 3 months. I can't imagine having the Silver Shamrock song stuck for that long:X

Melanie Jarvis

07-26-2007, 03:28 PM

I think my brain would explode if I had the Silver Shamrock song in my head.

Rich

07-26-2007, 05:59 PM

It may be just me, but I love the Silver Shamrock song. I love it. I don't know why, I just think it is so cool. When I get my new cell phone, I'm going to make it my ring tone. :D

Personally I think the lack of Michael Myers is this movie's strength, not it's weakness. This was a much more interesting story then any Myers regurgitation that came out after it. SOS (same old shit)

MaDMaNMaRz

08-02-2007, 04:46 AM

I didn't mind the Silver Shamrock song. That commercial was one of the main aspects of the film.

Autobotsdie

08-02-2007, 05:29 AM

Why do people seem to have a problem with this one? It seemed pretty fine to me.

MaDMaNMaRz

08-02-2007, 05:51 AM

Why do people seem to have a problem with this one? It seemed pretty fine to me.

For some reason, ALOT of people hate it solely because Michael Myers isn't in it.......well, he has a couple of cameos( sort of) :) I've asked people when I was in high school, and sometimes if i'm in a video store and over hear people talking about movies. Anytime i've asked, most people have said that's the reason. :confused:

French Friday

08-02-2007, 05:51 PM

I do love the Silver Shamrock song. I would like to have it on my cell phone too.

I think H3 is a great Halloween because the cinematography, the score and the whole atmosphere respects the first two. And the robots are very Shape-like. It's like a side story to the main one. Cochran is just a member of the Cult of Thorn who left because of some bad words with Wynn and just decided to go on his own.

The trailer on the TV set is for the movie based on the events that happened on Haddonfield 4 years ago. Usually, every event like this finishes adapted on the screen some years after in a way or another.

Michael is sleeping during that time. Laurie is now called Keri Tate in California, raising her son without his father, and drinking too much when Halloween is coming. Loomis is going crazy watching over Michael. Marion is going crazy because she's kept the secret for Laurie. Jamie Lloyd, her father and his wife, Jamie's stepmom are well alive in Haddonfield.

H3 has also one of the best ending ever made.

Joshg

08-02-2007, 05:54 PM

Two friends of mine had a marathon of Halloween flicks over a year and a half ago. (I think they missed Part 6 however)

Anyways, they said they liked them all, except Part 4 (really Part 3, they mixed them up) because "that guy wasn't even in it".

Meh, angers me.

Wheatjedi

08-02-2007, 06:56 PM

Shoesalesman

08-02-2007, 07:05 PM

I read the book in Junior High (or at least I think I did) and it was pretty good. Saw the movie a while back and it's entertaining. Had no problem with the Halloween name being attached to it.

That commercial song drove me nuts though. :duh:

Patrick

10-26-2007, 12:29 AM

For anyone interested (like me), BuySoundTrax is selling a limited edition 1,000 pieces Halloween III: Season of the Witch OST CD. The first 100 are autographed by Alan Howarth!
I got mine oredered. Quantities are said to be running low.

MaDMaNMaRz

10-26-2007, 01:15 AM

Thanks for the heads up! :) I'll definitely have to see about ordering one. I've always loved the H3 soundtrack.

Patrick

10-26-2007, 04:55 AM

Yea and the cool part is they are only like $20. There are a couple on eBay also and it is BuySoundTrax selling them.

Just Jeans

10-26-2007, 07:05 AM

Alan Howarth has released a limited edition version of the Halloween III soundtrack. Track 1-12 are considered the main score, while tracks 13-25 are listed as "bonus" tracks. It goes on sale October 29th, and can be pre-ordered here (http://buysoundtrax.stores.yahoo.net/haliiiseasof1.html). They've only produced 1,000 copies, and the first 100 have been autographed by Alan.

If I can come up with some cash, I'm going to nab one.

The original album for HALLOWEEN III was released by Varese Sarabande Records and, to this day, despite having been out of print for several years, fetches high prices in the collector’s market. AHI Records, to be distributed by BUYSOUNDTRAX Records, presents a new 25th Anniversary Collector’s Edition release of HALLOWEEN III: SEASON OF THE WITCH, which includes the contents of the original album release, newly remastered, along with thirteen tracks of previously unreleased music as bonus tracks, nearly an hour of music. The booklet contains notes written by the composer himself.

This is a limited edition release of 1000 units.

The first 100 copies will be autographed by composer Alan Howarth. This release is dedicated to the memories of Joseph Wolf, Moustapha Akkad and Debra Hill.

Edited to add: And now I see someone else has already posted this. Damn it.

Patrick

10-26-2007, 07:10 AM

LOL.......that's ok Jeans. Can't have too much info.

Chex

11-05-2007, 12:26 AM

One thing I always enjoyed about this film was how you could possibly tie it into the Halloween 1-2, 4-6 timeline even though it doesn't contain Myers.

The Dream Master

11-05-2007, 04:28 AM

Aw, shit, Chex, not another thread where Halloween continuity is going to be discussed. ;)

Anyway, I don't buy into connecting 3 to the rest of the series because it's pretty obvious that Atkins is watching the exact same movie that we call Halloween, which means Season of the Witch must be taking place in another universe. Still, there are some striking aspects (I think there's a mention of a Mrs. Blankenship, even) that could connect 3 to 6. If you take out the fact that Halloween is just a movie in this universe, then it'd certainly be possible.

Melanie Jarvis

11-05-2007, 04:37 AM

I never have been able to associate part 3 with the rest of the series, but I still consider it to be a good movie.

The Dream Master

11-05-2007, 04:38 AM

Yeah, even though I don't think it's part of the Myers continuity, it's a flippin' fantastic film. I enjoy it more than any of the other sequels, except for part two, maybe. That could go either way.

Chex

11-05-2007, 04:51 AM

Basically the cult would be the only bit that could tie it together, storyline wise. As for the movie, that's just the lifetime premier version of Laurie Strode: The Michael Myers Murders - The Night He Came Home. :p

H3 is just a fun film all around. Unique plot, interesting deaths, possible apocalyptic ending (or somewhat), and Tom the frikkin' man Atkins.

The Dream Master

11-05-2007, 04:55 AM

Yeah, I've heard the argument that the movie in Halloween 3 isn't really the Halloween, but an adaptation of the events that happened in Halloween. Like I said, I'd buy it if we didn't actually see that it's the exact same movie that we call Halloween. :)

Still, it doesn't make Halloween 3 any worse of a film for it; in fact, I could argue that it makes it better.

Chex

11-05-2007, 05:00 AM

How do you disprove my theory! I shall now type a thesis on why you're incorrect, good sir! :p

Nah, you got me on the title though. I forgot that they do actually say it at one point. Oh well.

P.S. You need to stop by chat again sometime. >_<

The Dream Master

11-05-2007, 05:03 AM

See, it's not just that they mention the title; in fact, if we only just ever saw that little advertisement, there might be room enough to consider it another movie based on the Haddonfield Murders. It's the scene where Atkins is tied up (:wiggle:) that makes it pretty obvious that it's the same movie I've seen a thousand times.

And I'll be in chat Thursday night, hopefully.

Joe Strummer

11-05-2007, 05:08 AM

I don't know about this movie anymore. I don't care that myers isn't it, but near the end, it got a bit ridiculous what with that monolith. The very end was good though...did all the kids who bought the masks die? It kinda leaves you wondering. Not a good movie, but not terrible, just a little ridiculous. Hallowwen 1 and 2 were more believable with a serial killer, but magical masks that kill? Well that takes a lot of weed to accept.

Chex

11-05-2007, 05:15 AM

Not a good movie, but not terrible, just a little ridiculous. Hallowwen 1 and 2 were more believable with a serial killer, but magical masks that kill? Well that takes a lot of weed to accept.

You mean believable in that a mental patient can all of a sudden have super human strength and lift people up with one hand or carry huge tombstones around all by himself and can also take multiple shots point blank and still get up leave all while being told that he's not "human"? :p

Everytime I watch Halloween I (and II as well), I keep wondering how people get the idea he's just a regular person. Even his credit's name implies he's not. Different interpretations, I suppose.

It's the scene where Atkins is tied up () that makes it pretty obvious that it's the same movie I've seen a thousand times.

Laurie just gave a great description of the events and the studio hired an actress that looks just like her. :p

nottidelterrore

11-05-2007, 05:23 AM

I love Halloween III. Vastly underrated & one of Tom Atkins' best roles. How the hell was he so accurate with that mask when he threw it on the security camera? That takes skill right there.

The Dream Master

11-05-2007, 05:23 AM

:lol:

But wait, if Laurie's supposed to be all paranoid about things like she is in H20, why would she go around selling her story to a TV studio? :p

Chex

11-05-2007, 05:36 AM

You have any idea how much it costs to rent a car and then wreck it all just to fake your own death while still having enough money to support you and your son.

That's why she left Jamie. She just didn't have enough money to take care of her and Lifetime didn't want to shell out the rights for Halloween II: More Lifetime made for TV movies.

;)

The Dream Master

11-05-2007, 05:37 AM

:eek:

That might be the best explanation for linking H20 with 4-6 that I've ever heard!

:lol:

Chex

11-05-2007, 05:44 AM

Well, I did write the plot twist for H8 sooo...

I'm not joking about that (well, somewhat). After watching H20 in 1998, I told my friend that I'm sure there will be some reason for Myers to come back such as we didn't see him under the mask and perhaps he traded places with a cop or something.

I swear, Akkad had that theatre bugged.

The Dream Master

11-05-2007, 05:45 AM

Chex, sorry to burst your bubble, but my cousin and I thought the same thing. We thought it was going to be that, or that there would be a revelation that it wasn't Michael at all in H20.

Chex

11-05-2007, 05:48 AM

...yeah, well...I saw it on the first day at the first showing sooo....I said it first. :p

I guess the only bad thing about linking H3 with the rest is that we know how the ending turns out. :(

Oh, there is one person that we've neglected to talk about: Nancy Loomis Keys. So we see she's dead in H2 yet she now has kids and is divorced from Tom Atkins (blasphemy!)? Sure, she may have a different name in the film, but she probably just changed it like Laurie did. ;)

The Dream Master

11-05-2007, 05:50 AM

Actually, Chex, you are right about that. You would have said it first because I didn't see it on opening night. :)

And I might have said this in chat before, but I didn't realize that was Nancy Loomis Keys in Halloween 3 until I watched it a few times.

Chex

11-05-2007, 05:54 AM

I think someone else mentioned having the same idea. I guess it was just that easy for a cop out?

I think you did say that. I say it really is Annie. I mean, any woman that divorces Tom Atkins must be dead (at least on the inside). :p

The Dream Master

11-05-2007, 05:59 AM

:lol:

So true.

Also, am I the only one who thought Nancy was way hotter in Halloween 3?

Chex

11-05-2007, 06:08 AM

I think TallMan agreed with you.

I disagree. The soccer mom look just didn't jive with me. Now give me puffed-up-almost-a-mini-'fro Annie. ;)

Deathscythe

11-05-2007, 06:28 AM

Patrick

11-05-2007, 07:27 AM

I love Halloween III. Vastly underrated & one of Tom Atkins' best roles. How the hell was he so accurate with that mask when he threw it on the security camera? That takes skill right there.

I love Halloween III also. It is more closely associated to the actual meaning of the "holiday" of Halloween, All Saint's Day, All Hallow's Eve, etc. than a movie about a serial killer. Although I do love the Michael Myers 'Halloween' films also, this one shouldn't be dismissed so easily.

ZPowers

11-05-2007, 11:49 PM

I'm really surprised they have a limited edition soundtrack out now. The only thing I remember musically is that too-damn-catchy London Bridge jingle.

361 more days til Halloween, Halloween, Halloween, 361 more days til Halloween, Sil-ver Shamrock.

Patrick

11-06-2007, 10:24 AM

I'll be glad when my CD comes in the mail. I hope I got one of the autographed ones.

MaDMaNMaRz

11-07-2007, 03:58 AM

I'm going to watch this again later tonight. I watched it last week too. I'd have to say this is THE most underrated movie.....of any genre.

If they ever release a SE of this, I hope they release the uncut version. I know a couple of the deaths were trimmed........the laser was one of them. I'd like to see that footage.

Chris - Just being Tom Atkins allowed him to do it with ease. :lol:

nottidelterrore

11-07-2007, 04:01 AM

It's just so funny how he can toss a mask like that & have it hit its mark. That's probably the part that makes me laugh the most.

MaDMaNMaRz

11-07-2007, 04:03 AM

I get a good laugh from it too. :D

For some reason, I sometimes laugh at the Cyborg Ellie too.

Challis: Why Cochran? Why?
Cochran: Do I need a reason?

I guess he just likes killing children for fun.

Scarecrow

11-07-2007, 10:37 AM

I love Halloween III also. It is more closely associated to the actual meaning of the "holiday" of Halloween, All Saint's Day, .

Although, of copurse, All Saint's Day isn't at all to do with the real meaning of Halloween. When Christianity was trying to alter all the poagan holiday's into something related to their religion, All Saint's was their attempt to change Samhain. The reason Halloween and All Saints never took off like Xmas and Easter seems mainly to be because a holiday that celebrates the dead and spirits was just too at odds with what they were trying to preach.

- Scarecrow

Patrick

11-07-2007, 08:55 PM

I find all that interesting.....where Halloween originated from and everything that went along with it.

Chex

11-07-2007, 09:54 PM

Challis: Why Cochran? Why?
Cochran: Do I need a reason?

I guess he just likes killing children for fun.

Doesn't he go into the explanation shorty after though?

I still want to know how he's got part of stonehenge and yet nobody notices it's gone. Unless it's just a slab of it that's been missing for years upon years.

French Friday

11-07-2007, 10:10 PM

:lol:

But wait, if Laurie's supposed to be all paranoid about things like she is in H20, why would she go around selling her story to a TV studio? :p

It could be anyone else from Haddonfield.

It's a movie based on an actual event. It isn't copyrighted or anything else. And maybe they changed the names of the characters in that movie, just in case.

I'm really more bothered by the different house in H5 by that "same as the original movie" movie in H3. I can't explain the different house.
ADDED:
Oh, there is one person that we've neglected to talk about: Nancy Loomis Keys. So we see she's dead in H2 yet she now has kids and is divorced from Tom Atkins (blasphemy!)? Sure, she may have a different name in the film, but she probably just changed it like Laurie did. ;)

Well, she plays a different character, that's not a problem of continuity.

Many people look the same as others in reality too.

Hey, I also try to insert The Fog in my giant horror storyline "from Bay of Blood to Jason X" !

You see, even when you're joking, I have answers. I always have answers.

Except for that damned house !

Chex

11-07-2007, 10:47 PM

French, it's obvious I was joking. I don't need you to sweep in and save the day because "you always have the answers".

Something that I brought up in chat the other night was about how Linnea Quigley's in Night of the Demons and Nightmare on Elm Street IV-The Dream Master as one of Freddy's tortured souls.

I could see an interesting fan fic explaining how she went from film to the other and could see possible ways to connect them. I don't know, I think it would be something you might enjoy. :)

The Dream Master

11-08-2007, 05:51 AM

Here's how you explain a different house in Halloween 5: it's a production fuck-up along the lines of Jason's appearance changing between movies. :p

Deathscythe

11-08-2007, 06:05 AM

I just assumed everyone was too lazy to use the real Myers house.

The Dream Master

11-08-2007, 06:10 AM

Actually, I believe it had something to do with the climax in the Myers house. The previous films set up the house in a way that rendered the ending to H5 impossible, so they changed it.

Or, you could just go with TM's explanation: Girard was a moron. :lol:

Chex

11-08-2007, 06:10 AM

Forget the Myers house in Halloween V, what about Halloween IV with Myers and the blond hair. I know the backstory about it, but still that's just no excuse.

...unless of course we say that it was Ben Tramer and he's back for revenge against Loomis after his sad fate in Halloween II. :p

skuppy

11-08-2007, 07:46 AM

Doesn't he go into the explanation shorty after though?

I still want to know how he's got part of stonehenge and yet nobody notices it's gone. Unless it's just a slab of it that's been missing for years upon years.

theres a news cast early on in the film that mentions a slab of stone henge missing.

Chex

11-08-2007, 08:02 AM

theres a news cast early on in the film that mentions a slab of stone henge missing.

Ah, that explains it. I wondered if there was or not. Thanks Skuppy! :)

MaDMaNMaRz

11-08-2007, 08:21 AM

For anyone that loves the H3 score(like me :)), you can listen to it at the OHMB. They have the soundtracks for all of the Halloween films. Just click on the Music button.

French Friday

11-08-2007, 04:38 PM

French, it's obvious I was joking. I don't need you to sweep in and save the day because "you always have the answers".

And I don't need you to make jokes about these kind of theories when it's obvious you hate them. But I let you make them.

I prefer these kinds of jokes when they come from people who LOVE these kinds of theories.

But anyway, as the professional theory-maker I am, I just have to answer to ANY possible problems of continuity H3 can give to viewers : the movie Halloween shown on TV, and why not, the same actress playing two different parts in both movies.

Some people bring the problems, I bring the answers.

That's as simple as that.
ADDED:
Here's how you explain a different house in Halloween 5: it's a production fuck-up along the lines of Jason's appearance changing between movies. :p

The difference being that Jason's appearance is easily explained by the regeneration theory and others.

The house on the other hand... :confused:

As I said, the house in H5 is surely the main problem I have with every series I made a theory on.

The Dream Master

11-09-2007, 01:13 AM

French, I was referring to his clothes, specifically how he grew gloves onto his hands between TNB and JTM.

French Friday

11-09-2007, 07:38 PM

French, I was referring to his clothes, specifically how he grew gloves onto his hands between TNB and JTM.

Well, I know it's again a big stretch (many of my theories are), but I have a kind of answer for that one too : they aren't gloves but just "waste-stuff" that have stuck around his hands underwater. They look like normal-gloves but they are "waste-gloves" in fact. I'm basing that idea on the close-shot of the hand coming on the boat just after his resurrection. On that shot you see mainly slime and waste, not really a glove (it's only on the wide underwater shot at the very beginning where it's obvious they are gloves). So again, I'm using one debatable shot to explain the others. It's a stretch, yes, but the horror franchises makers force me to stretch very often ! (I should be called Mr Fantastic Elongated Plastic Man !). As for the clothes, it's kinda the same answer.

But this is an H3 thread and we're off topic.

Let's check it up :

The movie Halloween on TV - checked
The same actress playing a different part - checked
Cochran being an ex-Thorn member and ex-friend of Wynn - checked
The robots acting like Myers, maybe a way to say the Thorn power is in Myers too - checked

Is there any other kind of stuff we could link the Myers movies ?

The Dream Master

11-11-2007, 07:25 PM

French, as I said earlier, there's a mention of a Mrs. Blankenship (which is the name of the lady in Halloween 6).

Scarecrow

11-11-2007, 07:59 PM

The way I see it, Thorn have to make a sacrifice whenever the Thorn appears in the eky. When it appears, he appears.

What if the Thorn appeared in 1982? And Myers was too badly burnt and injured to rise?

Conal Cochran could be a partner in Thorn, maybe in league with Wynn. And with Myers out of action, Cochran tries to make the biggest sacrifice ever, the entire of America. In the end the plan is stopped (only a local station still runs due to a signal from the factory). After this Myers rises.

This is what we used in my online Halloween Series, which ties up the series and expands it hugely.

- Scarecrow

French Friday

11-13-2007, 04:41 PM

French, as I said earlier, there's a mention of a Mrs. Blankenship (which is the name of the lady in Halloween 6).

I didn't remember that. Thanks. I'll see what I can do with that during my next watching.
ADDED:
The way I see it, Thorn have to make a sacrifice whenever the Thorn appears in the eky. When it appears, he appears.

What if the Thorn appeared in 1982? And Myers was too badly burnt and injured to rise?

Conal Cochran could be a partner in Thorn, maybe in league with Wynn. And with Myers out of action, Cochran tries to make the biggest sacrifice ever, the entire of America. In the end the plan is stopped (only a local station still runs due to a signal from the factory). After this Myers rises.

This is what we used in my online Halloween Series, which ties up the series and expands it hugely.

- Scarecrow

GREAT ! I should have thought about it !

Patrick

11-18-2007, 09:04 AM

I got my Halloween III soundtrack in today and I got one of the autographed ones. YAY! I got the CD that came inside a jewel case and all artwork and inserts included PLUS an extra cover art insert that Alan Howarth autographed. :)

TheCurse

12-17-2007, 02:56 AM

After all these years of refusing to see Halloween III since I hated the fact it didn't star Michael Myers, I realized that just because it's a Halloween movie without Myers doesn't mean it's a shitty movie, so I finally decided to watch it today. I really enjoyed it. It's a shame I didn't see it earlier.

Some high points:

badass cover art
Tom Atkins, of course
opening scene where the guy pulls the chain attached to the block and the car crushes the robot
final scene where the kid keeps switching channels, with Atkins shouting into the phone
the deaths
the "misfire"
the mechanical people, especially the old woman knitting

I also liked the comedy, like the bike on the RV flying off and almost hitting Atkins, and in the same scene, the lady's car almost hitting him, and later, the car's horn going off when Ellie walks in front of it.

I also liked the bum:

"Pretty wild shit going on in there"
"I'm gonna get me about a case and a half of Molotov cocktails...burn that sonofabitch right down"

Atkins had his groove on in the "intimate" scenes. My favorite is right after the Silver Shamrock chip misfires:

*sound of woman getting blasted by the Silver Shamrock chip*
Ellie: "What's that?"
Atkins, while rubbing his face in Ellie's chest: "Who cares" :)

Chex

12-17-2007, 04:41 AM

Glad to hear you liked it TheCurse. :)

After all these years of refusing to see Halloween III since I hated the fact it didn't star Michael Myers, I realized that just because it's a Halloween movie without Myers doesn't mean it's a shitty movie, so I finally decided to watch it today.

I remember knowing two people that hadn't seen it at the time and one of them mentioned the usual "It doesn't have Myers so it's probably crap" idea. The other friend replied with ".....some of the films WITH Myers in them are crap. I'm taking it as a sign that this might be decent". ;)

Scarecrow

12-17-2007, 08:54 AM

It's a very sharp satire as well, thanks to Nigel Kneals influence. it's a shame he took his name off as, even though they injected a lot more gore anrt typical horror stuff, his wit and razor sharp critism shines through. It's a film about the commericlisation of Halloween and send sits message across wonderfully.

- Scarecrow

Ron

12-17-2007, 10:38 PM

I think it's lame that people don't give this film the credit it deserves. It doesn't have Michael Myers...so what? It's still a good film worth watching.

nottidelterrore

12-18-2007, 12:49 AM

Glad you enjoyed it. I wish more people would give this movie a chance...although I've noticed that quite a few people are enjoying it nowadays.

Patrick

12-18-2007, 10:13 AM

I love it. Just like F13th:ANB...people just freak over every little thing sometimes. I mean, I am nit-picky with alot of things, but this movie is NOT bad.

Chex

12-18-2007, 09:04 PM

I mean, I am nit-picky with alot of things, but this movie is NOT bad.

I'll be honest, I'm sad when I watch this film in a marathon and it's almost over as I know that while H4 is decent, H5, H6, H8, are sub-par at best with H20 being somewhat ok in areas.

So to me, Halloween 3 is the last big "hurrah" when watching the entire series.

The Dream Master

12-19-2007, 07:18 AM

For me, the "last hurrah" comes with Halloween 6, which was also the last movie Pleasance was in. Coincidence? I think not.

Deathscythe

12-19-2007, 07:21 AM

I like H1, H2, & H4 and consider that to be my own personal Halloween trilogy. To be honest I actually found H3 to be pretty boring.

The Dream Master

12-19-2007, 07:22 AM

I don't know that I've ever watched Halloween 3 with the rest of the series. I always watch it on its own. I do agree that 1, 2, and 4 make a pretty good trilogy.

Chex

12-19-2007, 07:24 AM

For me, the "last hurrah" comes with Halloween 6, which was also the last movie Pleasance was in. Coincidence? I think not.

I'll be honest,Halloween VI has been more entertaining each time I've seen it as of late. Maybe it's because though it's used to follow the soul raping that is known as Halloween V.

The Dream Master

12-19-2007, 07:27 AM

I'll be honest,Halloween VI has been more entertaining each time I've seen it as of late. Maybe it's because though it's used to follow the soul raping that is known as Halloween V.

:lol:

I should note that I don't really think Halloween 6 is better than part 3 because that's not the case. Honestly, I think I'm getting close to the point where I can safely proclaim part 3 to be my favorite Halloween sequel. It's a tough call between it and part 2, though. Hell, even part 4 can be part of that conversation at times.

Deathscythe

12-19-2007, 07:28 AM

I like H6 all the way the way until Michael chases Kara down the street. After that Michael was just here and there and I hated the MIB/Thorn stuff.

Ron

12-20-2007, 11:41 PM

The MIB was so dumb.

Patrick

12-21-2007, 09:12 AM

Yes it was. Totally unecessary and actually made no sense at all.

Chex

03-02-2008, 07:53 PM

Patrick

03-31-2008, 09:17 AM

I noticed that Jamie Lee Curtis is credited on her IMDB page as the voice of the phone operator when Atkins tries to call out of the town. Popping in Halloween III, you can tell it's her.

I guess it's not that shocking seeing as how Adrienne Barbeau was the voice of the chess computer game in The Thing.

I knew that about Jamie Lee Curtis being the P.A. announcer. But i didn't know that about Adrienne Barbeau. I will have to check that out.

Deathscythe

04-01-2008, 03:01 AM

So I rewatched Lethal Weapon 2 a while ago and I never realized until now that Tom Atkins was in that film. -_-

CanadianFonzie

06-20-2008, 05:19 PM

I just finished watching this movie for the first time in about 20 years, and I still say that this is a great film, I personally would have liked a different Halloween oriented film like what Carpenter intended, I mean Halloween 4 and 5 were great, but really, anyone could have lived without anything after the 5th

Patrick

06-20-2008, 09:10 PM

I mean Halloween 4 and 5 were great, but really, anyone could have lived without anything after the 5th

That's the damn truth. Although I do like H20. Halloween: Curse of Michael Myers was shitty.

nottidelterrore

06-21-2008, 01:22 AM

I like all of the Halloween movies in different ways. One through Four are easily the best, in that order. Five & Six are decent. Seven is ok as well. Resurrection is shit but I enjoy it.

Halloween III is such an underrated gem & I'm glad that more & more people like it nowadays.

Well....actually I don't like Rob Zombie's Halloween. That's no secret though.

Patrick

06-21-2008, 02:14 AM

Yes Halloween III is a gem. It is a very good movie. I understand what some people mean when they say it should have been called something else instead of Halloween. But, I consider it part of the franchise because it is part of the franchise.

The Dream Master

06-21-2008, 02:21 AM

If it didn't have Halloween in the title, it would be more appreciated, but that's horseshit. Carpenter meant for the series to be anthology-style, but a lot of people just don't know that so they use the lack of Myers as an excuse to hate this one.

Patrick

06-21-2008, 02:35 AM

Exactly. I keep forgetting that as well about Carpenter wanting it to be a trilogy of sorts. The movie is good. It's just, as you said, because it doesn't have Michael Myers in it, people won't let themselves like it. The same for Friday the 13th part V.

nottidelterrore

06-21-2008, 03:35 AM

Monkey

06-21-2008, 03:42 AM

The whole No Myers complaint is nothing but an overused, tired excuse. :D
That was why I didn't care for it when it came out. Spent the whole time wondering where Michael was.

Several years later, I appreciate this flick. The town is creepy (as is the music)... They kill a kid (creatively & brutally)... which is something you hardly ever see. Great ending. Good movie.

nottidelterrore

06-21-2008, 03:44 AM

Same here, Monkey. When I first saw this when I was a kid, I hated it. I was looking for Michael too.

About ten years ago, I grew to apprecite it. I like it more & more with each viewing.

I love the setting in Santa Mira. You're right about it being creepy. The score for Halloween III is one of my all-time favourites.

Patrick

06-21-2008, 05:07 AM

I have that Silver Shamrock jingle from the soundtrack on my phone as one of my ringtones...lol.

Scarecrow

06-21-2008, 08:02 AM

First time I watched this as a kid for some reason I thought those were Michael's ashes she was sifting through...

- Scarecrow

CanadianFonzie

06-21-2008, 12:49 PM

They kill a kid (creatively & brutally)... .

that was something I didn't quite go for...I mean in the movie we only saw it happen to one kid but you know for how the movie happened it happened to a whoooole lot more kids, which was the only thing I can complain about...well that and the corniest love scene in movie history, lol "where do you want to sleep" "that's a dumb question" I just died of laughter toward the corniness
ADDED:
I have that Silver Shamrock jingle from the soundtrack on my phone as one of my ringtones...lol.

man did I get tired of that song, lol

MaDMaNMaRz

06-23-2008, 11:40 PM

The score for Halloween III is one of my all-time favourites.

Mine too Chris.

Although i'd say I probably like The Fog's score just a little more.

nottidelterrore

06-24-2008, 04:40 AM

Mine too Chris.

Although i'd say I probably like The Fog's score just a little more.

The Fog's score is pretty great too.

The Dream Master

06-24-2008, 07:01 AM

MaDMaNMaRz

06-25-2008, 01:21 AM

I love Halloween 3's score, especially the main theme that plays over the opening credits. It's the perfect mood-setter for that flick. Gotta love it when Carp gets on the synth, especially when he's collaborating with Howarth.

That's my favorite track too, Brett. I also like the music in the scene where Challis and Ellie are driving to Santa Mira.

nottidelterrore

06-25-2008, 01:23 AM

Patrick

06-25-2008, 02:33 AM

Halloween III's score is one of the best in the whole series.

cropsy

06-25-2008, 03:01 AM

Halloween III all together just kicks @ss. The music, story, actors and everythign were just incredible. It just suffers from people crying about something that shouldn't matter like Myers not being in it.

Scarecrow

06-25-2008, 08:16 AM

I think Halloween 3 may have been judged even better had the script not been tampered with. After all, Neale was a genius of his time. The film still has a lot of his satirical touches.

- Scarecrow

zombie extra 3

05-17-2009, 11:25 AM

I like this film. I think it's underrated. I just don't get why when you put the mask on and watch the commercial instead of the stonehenge computer chip just zapping you dead, it also makes bugs and snakes come out of your mouth. But it's a cool effect so I'll go with it.

Rich

05-17-2009, 08:16 PM

I love the commercial song. I should have purchased the soundtrack when it was re-released.

Ron

05-17-2009, 08:47 PM

You have to be joking Rich.

Rich

05-17-2009, 08:54 PM

I love the Silver Shamrock song!!!

Ron

05-17-2009, 11:22 PM

I am oficially sick to my stomach!:p

Bill 1981

05-18-2009, 02:26 AM

I am oficially sick to my stomach!:p

Pussy. :p

Sure, it's a catchy jingle, but the novelty does wear thin sometimes.

nottidelterrore

05-18-2009, 02:28 AM

The Halloween III score in general is awesome. It's one of my favorites.

The Dream Master

05-18-2009, 02:29 AM

I love the music over the opening credits. Bonafide badass. Carp and Howarth at their best dere.

nottidelterrore

05-18-2009, 02:33 AM

Alan Howarth has the 25th Anniversary Edition of the score for sale on his site. $25 & signed by Howarth. I may eventually grab a copy.

http://alanhowarth.com/pgcart.pga?product=HalloweenIII

Rich

06-11-2009, 08:10 PM

I actually own the soundtrack to Halloween 4. So there is no need for me to get it. I wish I could get my hands on a soundtrack to Part 3. The Halloween soundtracks I own are 1, 2, 4, 6, and Resurrection. I really need to get my hands on the Part 3 soundtrack.

nottidelterrore

06-11-2009, 08:22 PM

The soundtrack to Halloween 3 is on that page for purchase. That's what I was talking about.

Timberwolf Entertainment

08-10-2009, 05:21 PM

Halloween III is about to come on HBOZONE. Halloween II is on right now, but I got to see that a few months ago..

However I haven't seen Halloween III in at least 20 years. Like most fans in the 80s, I saw it but was put off by no Myers and never saw it again other then bits and pieces on TV over the years. I did buy the soundtrack CD years ago cause I love that creepy ass theme song.

Anyway, I've been really wanting to watch it again lately to just watch it as its own stand alone film.

(HBO Zone West for those with mulitple HBOs)
ADDED:
So I DVRed it and watched it last night and it was a pretty neat little 80s horror film. I can see why fans have now excepted it years later. When I was young I remember this dislike for it, and while I didn't hate it really back then, because Myer's wasn't in it I just didn't care overall. Of coarse this is the kid that went to see Part 8 ten times in the theater just to see Jason do his thing.

It was a little cheesy, but I guess it's just the times. Still it played rather well a good pace and had a decent story. I really like the ending too, but I remember always liking and remembering that from away back when. Great way to end a horror film.

I'm curious how it would be viewed today if it was simply called DeathMasks or Hallows Eve Massacre or whatever. Would it be forgotten or would it have done better? While it hurt at the time, I think now the Halloween name helps it for new fans that just stumble across it because of that. I stil lthink to make it more connected they should have had a 4th mask and have the 4th mask be a Myers mask..lol

Anyway, I don't think I'll run out and buy the DVD, but I enjoyed watching it, and in retrospect it's certainly a better movie than Halloween 5 and 6. Looking back I would have much prefered the different Halloween themed horror every year. They still could have gone back to Michael every couple of films, but spacing his return out might have helped them from running the character into the ground so fast (look how good 4 was after the 7 year gap after 2.. then again there was a 6 year gap from 5 to 6, so nevermind :p ). But seriously I know money wise it is a bad idea.. Myers and only Myers for $$$. But creatively it would have played better.

The Dude

11-03-2009, 07:47 AM

I'll admit i never really gave this movie a chance. When I heard Michael wasn't even in it I just automatically assumed it sucked. I was wrong. After watching part 3 really for the first time ever yesterday i was impressed. I enjoyed the change of pace to the series and thought the movie really had a good 80's style creepy vibe to it and a classic Carpenter style ending. I loved the little nods to the original Halloween it has thrown in there. Good horror movie all around. Certainly better than some of the other entries in the series. I'd rank it above part 5, H20, Ressurection and Rob Zombie's Halloween and Halloween II.

Bill 1981

03-04-2010, 04:40 PM

WATCH THE MAGIC PUMPKIN!
hIHUv2ooG38

Sean [The Wildcard]

03-04-2010, 04:55 PM

No, Bill...I will NOT watch the Magic Pumpkin. That Damn Pumpkin, along with that Damn Jingle can kiss my ass!

*Jingle automatically get stuck in head*

STOP IT!

Bill 1981

03-04-2010, 05:25 PM

:lol:

Sorry, pal.

Rich

03-06-2010, 09:47 PM

The magic pumpkin is awesome!

In some ways I feel that Halloween III is a better film then Halloween II. :X

Bill 1981

03-22-2010, 04:41 PM

Just browsing Hulu and found Stacy Nelkin in Yellowbeard (http://www.hulu.com/watch/32457/yellowbeard). ENJOY! :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/bill1981/yellowbeard.jpg

The Tall Man

03-23-2010, 12:22 AM

"Yellowbeard"? The Graham Chapman pirate movie?

T.M., Esq.

Bill 1981

03-23-2010, 06:33 AM

"Yellowbeard"? The Graham Chapman pirate movie?

T.M., Esq.

One in the same...With awesome hilarity from Eric Idle, Cheech & Chong and Madeline Kahn.

The Tall Man

03-23-2010, 11:45 PM

One in the same...With awesome hilarity from Eric Idle, Cheech & Chong and Madeline Kahn.
And you leave out John Cleese? For shame.

T.M., Esq.

Bill 1981

03-24-2010, 12:10 AM

And you leave out John Cleese? For shame.

T.M., Esq.

Augh! Damn my soul for missing that! :cry:

Rich

04-23-2010, 08:14 AM

She looked great in Yellowbeard too. She was just a damn pretty girl.

MadGoalie

05-20-2010, 03:00 AM

old thread, but michael is in it if i remember correctly, i think it was a security guard in a booth or something watching a horror movie, and it was halloween 1, michael is coming down some stairs, lol

edit: its when the dr is having a drink in the bar

The Tall Man

05-20-2010, 03:50 AM

That's not really being in the movie, sir.

T.M., Esq.

Rich

05-20-2010, 05:55 AM

I'm with the Tall Man on that one. Michael Myers is not in Halloween III. Him being on TV doesn't count as his character being in the plot. Though, Dick Warlock actually played one of the robots.

Voorheeszilla

05-20-2010, 07:49 AM

If being on a TV means actually appearing in a movie, then many characters, including Michael, have been in dozens & dozens of films. While we're add it, why not say the mere mention of a character means that they were an integral part of the movie? In that case, Michael Myers was a key element to Scream, since he's not only mentioned, but shown on a TV various times.

Hooray for counting a character in a movie because of a TV!!!

MadGoalie

05-21-2010, 03:14 AM

obviously i should have used a sarcastic smiley, sorry folks

The One and Only

10-26-2010, 05:26 PM

Neat-o fan-trailer I came across today for HIII:SEASON OF THE WITCH. (http://www.joblo.com/arrow/index.php?id=24767)

Also on the subject of Yellowbeard, it should be mentioned that it was the last film starring the late great Marty England before his rather untimely death.:(

The Tall Man

10-27-2010, 12:11 AM

Er, you mean Marty Feldman?

T.M., Esq.

nottidelterrore

10-31-2011, 12:40 PM

It has really been over a year since the last post in this thread!?

Anyway, this is one of my absolute favorite movies to watch on Halloween. I feel it captures the vibe and spirit of Halloween quite well. And the soundtrack is dark and full of synth.

Don't forget to watch the big giveaway.

PS

fFENgb2zOn4

WesReviews

10-31-2011, 08:37 PM

Q: What did the lazer beam say to the mouth?

A: ZZZZZZZAP!!!

nottidelterrore

10-31-2011, 10:59 PM

ZZZZZZZAP!!!

T1b6ko1I00A

Chex

11-01-2011, 05:37 AM

I still get a chuckle out of Atkins' response:

Bartender: Don't you have any Halloween spirit?

Atkins: No! (Said in a gruff voice)

Chex

11-17-2011, 06:15 PM

Awsome Silver Shamrock site:

http://www.wix.com/dsiciliano66/silvershamrock

Chex

12-16-2011, 07:11 AM

See if you can spot Stacey Nelkin in this Bette Midler video for Beast of Burdon co-starring Mick Jagger:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4R9FiKE0Tk

She's there, but I'm not saying where.

The Dream Master

12-16-2011, 07:34 AM

Guys, check out this rejected art for Halloween 3, courtesy of Dread Central:

http://www.dreadcentral.com/img/news/dec11/unseenh3.jpg

The look on the pumpkin's face seems to indicate dismay at not being as cool as Tom Atkins.

Oh and check out Chex's video up there, I didn't meant to steal the show.
ADDED:
Okay I couldn't find Nelkin in that video.

Chex

12-16-2011, 03:42 PM

Then you'll have to watch it again until you do. Suffer the power of Midler!

Or look for the girl around the 2 minute mark that comes onto Jagger, but gets rejected because he has his attention on Bette...for whatever reason.

SlasherFreak

12-17-2011, 02:46 AM

I've decided Im revisiting this on Christmas eve

Anyone with me?

Rich

12-17-2011, 06:16 PM

I'll watch Halloween III: Season of the Witch on Christmas Eve. Then on Christmas day I will watch Batman Returns, A Christmas Carol (staring Aliser Sim) and A Christmas Carol (staring Jim Carey).
ADDED:
Guys, check out this rejected art for Halloween 3, courtesy of Dread Central:

http://www.dreadcentral.com/img/news/dec11/unseenh3.jpg

The look on the pumpkin's face seems to indicate dismay at not being as cool as Tom Atkins.

Oh and check out Chex's video up there, I didn't meant to steal the show.
ADDED:
Okay I couldn't find Nelkin in that video.

This poster is awesome!

Jason_Legend

03-27-2012, 01:02 AM

When I watch this now, I only have one problem with it: Challis outsmarts the bad guys way too easily. It's like something out of Austin Powers.

nottidelterrore

03-28-2012, 03:58 PM

Tom Atkins can outsmart us all with his wily charm, smooth moves, and epic mustache.

WesReviews

03-28-2012, 04:02 PM

Bill 1981

03-28-2012, 04:33 PM

Tom Atkins can outsmart us all with his wily charm, smooth moves, and epic mustache.

And don't forget the awesome catchphrase "It's Miller Time!"...oh, wait...wrong movie. My bad. :shyface:

The Dream Master

04-19-2012, 07:12 PM

There are rumblings that Universal has licensed this out for a features-laden Blu-ray special edition. Fingers crossed.
ADDED:
Looking like the third party will be Shout Factory.

Ron

04-19-2012, 08:48 PM

Hmmm....this may possibly be one of the upcoming 8 releases that they were hinting at the other day:thinking:

The One and Only

04-20-2012, 02:59 AM

^Now if Shout Factory would get to releasing the complete INHUMANOIDS I'd be one happy camper. Any rumor on H2 getting the royal treatment as well ?

The Dream Master

04-21-2012, 03:52 AM

I doubt Halloween 2 will get it since it was just released on Blu-ray last year, but stranger things have happened.

MaDMaNMaRz

04-21-2012, 04:25 AM

I'm glad Shout Factory got ahold of this. I've been dying for a SE of H3 for years.

nottidelterrore

04-22-2012, 03:40 AM

The SE Blu will be mine.

The Halloween II Blu-ray was the most awful Blu-ray release ever. Fuck them for including Terror in the Aisles as a special feature. NOT ENOUGH.

MaDMaNMaRz

04-22-2012, 04:52 AM

I hope there's a featurette on Atkins' mustache.

Rich

04-22-2012, 05:55 AM

The SE Blu will be mine.

The Halloween II Blu-ray was the most awful Blu-ray release ever. Fuck them for including Terror in the Aisles as a special feature. NOT ENOUGH.

I never bought the Halloween II Blu-ray either. I still watch my good old Goodtimes DVD. :D I am sure the Blu-ray qualiy blows my copy out of the water, but I still enjoy the copy I own and have not been given a proper reason to upgrade yet. Terror in the Isles as not enough for me either. It barely even pertains to the film itself.

If the upcoming Halloween III has good extras on it, then I will buy it.

I do not rebuy everything on Blu-ray that I already own on DVD. Economically it makes no sense when (realizing Blu will be better quality) I am happy with what I have.

SlasherFreak

04-22-2012, 02:08 PM

I think Notti was being sarcastic Rich :D

Anyways...this is great news, can't wait to hear what they have lined up for special features.

nottidelterrore

04-22-2012, 03:42 PM

I hope there's a featurette on Atkins' mustache.

That and Dr. Challis' tips on how to get younger vag.

I think Notti was being sarcastic Rich :D

D, I'm always serious. Always. And forever.

Rich

04-22-2012, 06:06 PM

I was not. :) I am not going to rebuy a copy of a film I already own just to get a 30 year old doc that doesn't even have anything to do with the film it's on the disc for. I just felt is was a poor excuse for a 30th Anniversary of a film. If we got a couple docs featuring actors and BTS people from Halloween II along with maybe the Rosenthal cut and TV scenes I would be down. I am not going to rebuy the same film just for Terror in the Aisles.

I love the quality of Blu-rays, don't get me wong, but I do have a PS3 and an HDMi cable. Those two things make even standard DVDs look very good. I am just not the kind of person who is obsessed with having the absolute BEST version of a film. I am happy with what I have, because lets face it, you never really have the BEST version of a film, you only have the best FOR NOW. :)

I might just buy Halloween III as long as they offer some respectable extras. These days Halloween III has actually become my favorite Halloween film besides the original.