Your ideal NOES movie

[Dead Cell]

To borrow an idea here:

What would you consider to be your ideal NOES movie? So basically, if you were given the opportunity to write the next NOES, how would you do it?

[Skott]

No comedy, dark and pissed of Freddy like he appears in Freddy's Revenge.

[Ron]

No comedy, dark and pissed of Freddy like he appears in Freddy's Revenge.

agreed.....

[DavidDunn]

I third that. Although they died in the Freddy's Revenge novelization, I would like to see Jesse Walsh and Lisa Webber make an appearance in a sequel. I always thought it would be an alright idea to have like A Nightmare on Elm Street 2 20: Twenty Years Later type film, showing that Jesse and Lisa were able to escape the bus crash/explosion at the end of Freddy's Revenge and were able to finish high school and move off to college together. It would take place when they're about 40-ish and they would have teenage children of their own. Basically, Freddy would be back in hell after Jason defeated him in Fvs.J, and Freddy's soul is kind of trapped in the New Jersey area. He kind of picks up a familiar presence from there, and it reveals that Jesse and Lisa are living nearby in the New England area. Needing a passage back to the living world, Freddy left a mark on Jesse 20 years back and tries to possess him once again, but decides to go for his son instead, simply to make his life a living hell for painfully defeating him back in 1985.

Yeah, not a good idea, but I like to think that it has potential.

[Killa Pimp]

No one - liners, very dark and very bloody.
Freddy just being a full on Son of a B***h.
relentless to the end and a definitive ending.

Well, I want that for any horror film...

[Autobotsdie]

I don't know if its been done yet but how about someone playing mind games with Freddy for once and get get even with him.

[The Dream Master]

Autobot, have you read the original script for NOES 6? It ended with the revelation that Freddy was afraid of his abusive step-father or something like that. So, had that script been produced, you might have received your wish.

[Autobotsdie]

So it hasn't been done yet.

[The Dream Master]

Nope, it hasn't. And if it does, I hope they go for something better than what I described above. It didn't come off so well in the script, in my opinion.

[Ron]

I'll accept mostly anything as long as it's not a prequel.

[Dead Cell]

I was kicking an idea around for a while. Basically, I'd set it after FvJ so that hardly anyone in the town knows about Freddy. A few people here and there, but not many due to the whole lockdown on info about Krueger.

The movie would start with a group of teens that are all being haunted by nightmares of Freddy and have all already banded together, recognizing the reality of the situation. They don't know who Freddy is- don't know his name or his history, or about all the other people he's killed or any of it. They're completely in the dark.
But together they've worked out a bit of a plan. It's like in all the other Elm St. flicks when someone says, "Watch me while I sleep," except they've got a whole group instead of just 2 people. The idea would be to sneak in short naps here and there; just enough to get you through the day and maintain the appearance of normalcy.
Unlike Lori freaking out in the school halls, these guys are all about keeping a tight lid on this, because they know everyone would think they're crazy. (What they don't know is they'd probably be carted away to the sanitarium like Will and Mark if they let on what was happening).

Freddy would be more brooding and angry in this movie, because these kids keep evading him. He's gotten to the point where he's just biding his time now, knowing they can't hold out forever.

And I know it's been done to death in the novels or fanfics, but I was kicking around the idea of having one of the main characters (an outsider with a friend in this secret club) being rendered unconcious for the second half of the movie. Car wreck or some such plot device. Whatever. Not a coma. Just unconcious for a few days; more than enough time for the events of the 2nd and 3rd Acts to play out.

She'd be trapped exclusively in the boiler room for her entire, extended nightmare. And the boiler room... from the exterior now looks like a massive castle made of industrial equipment that overshadows the whole town. Freddy's completely twisted Springwood to match his tastes; grating replaces sidewalks and roads, etc. etc. (Think Silent Hill meets Elm Street for anyone that's played the 1st or 3rd games in that series).

While trapped in the boiler room she runs into Freddy's latest victim; someone that she doesn't realize is already dead. Every time this ghost appears or disappears, she just assumes it's the person falling asleep or waking up. Anyway, they try to help each other, but things go sour and such. Yeah.

Anyway, that's about it. There's like a million more details. I'd copy and paste them if anyone's interested. But yeah! Before I finish up though, must post one of the better kills I came up with for this thing:

Freddy stalks towards his would-be victim. Scared kid concentrates on manipulating the dream-world and causes a huge eruption of fire from a boiler that engulfs Freddy. Short moment of victory! Freddy emerges from the fire, melting, skin bubbling and bursting in disgusting puddles of fiery flesh. His shirt is completely gone; only oozing, swirling, melting flesh. He points towards the kid; goopy, glopping flesh obscuring all but the most basic details of his metal blades and...... graps hold of the kid! He screams in agony as the searing hot liquid puddles of flesh begin oozing over his head and all down his body. There's nothing left except a charred carcass. :D

[Fan of Freddy]

I just have post in this thread. I have had a lot of ideas for an NOES movie. It's hard to pick my ideal film. I did have this idea set a few years in the future, similar to See no Evil, where a bunch of kids from a juvie detention center are picked to do clean up work on Elm Street. The area itself would be a mess; all run down, houses boared up, etc... People would live there but it would be crazy. It would basically have become ghetto enviroment. It could be mentioned that after the events of Freddy vs Jason, the people of Ohio finally stepped up and deemed Springwood a hazard zone and anyone wanting to be there do so at there own risk.

Anyway, these kids are part of a larger program that wants to return Springwood to a more hospitable place. Their supervisor would be the grown up son of Alice, from the end of Dream Child. He would know the dangers but doesn't worry, thinking his mother took care of Freddy years ago. He would know nothing about the events of Freddy's Dead or F vs J since Alice would have moved out of the town and raised him elsewhere.

This group get sent to the worst of the houses first; you guessed it, 1428 Elm. A few of the kids begin spreading rumors amongst the group that referance the history of Elm Street, and little by little strange things begin happening. Eventually we get to the dream world, where even the boiler room is in it's worst shape, and Freddy is done being funny. He's serious and ready to get back in business.

I'm not sure about the rest, other than that it would be very dark, and Freddy would be in the shadows a lot, making more use of his powers of dream manipulation. And Alice's son would end up coming face to face with Freddy just like his mother before him, having all her powers passed on to him.

~F.o.F

[FreddyKR]

I like the Freddy in FvJ but, I want him to be darker and scarier...along with sick humour. I just liked the look of him in FvJ.

[Darth Sinister]

I'd keep the demon look in FvsJ from when we see him in the beginning and during the part when he realizes that Lori was interfering with his revenge on Jason. I'd keep the one-liners, but make them dark and disgusting. The effects moments can be done so that they're more disturbing than funny. Like the snake head in the third film. Bring back in greater effect the scrapping of his blades. Also have the nightmares be more absurd looking. By that I mean like real nightmares or dreams that don't make much sense.

[Matt Mosley]

I'd make The Springwood Slasher prequel!
I wrote 70% of the story 3-years ago and then deleted it.
I'd love to write it now,Freddy goes against profiling you see.

[GrimReaper]

Fuck it they have this for F13 why not NOES?.

What would you consider to be your ideal NOES movie? So basically, if you were given the opportunity to write the next NOES, how would you do it?

[sCabbOy]

Watch the first and apply.

[The Dream Master]

A sequel that gives Freddy a better send-off before he moves on to remake land. Sadly, that's not going to happen. :misery:

[Kane Lives]

I used to be picky about what direction the NOES series should take, but right now I'd take anything over this remake.

[sCabbOy]

I don't know... I'd rather eat a pile of horse dung then be insulted with shit like "Freddy's Dead". Compared to that a remake looks good.

[Utellme]

Continue from the end of New Nightmare a sequel instead of a remake but the sequel days are gone.

[The Tall Man]

Freddy's Dead > Scab's soul.

Nightmare 3 all the way. Watch. Rinse. Repeat. Joke it up some.

T.M.

[The Dream Master]

I'd love something that has the tone/ambition of the first hour of Freddy's Dead, but with a more epic ending. Meaning Freddy doesn't get bitched out right after announcing his plans for world domination.

[El Rooto]

I'd have Freddy take over the world but all along, getting all that power would've been part of his secret plot to bring happiness and joy to everyone.

Or I'd give Freddy a send-off that doesn't involve him just getting blown up with a bomb. Something truly grand.

[Deathscythe]

Nightmare 3 all the way.

Yup, no more needs to be said.

[Geddy Peart]

Nightmare 2 only without the bad acting and homoerotic undertones. I always felt the 2nd film had the creepiest score, atmosphere, imagery and Freddy.

But generally speaking, something along the lines of the first 3 films.

[Lance Lives]

I love 3 and 4 so something along those lines would be ace. I agree that him being blown up is a terrible send-up.

[Rich]

Something along the lines of the first two.

[Scarecrow]

No taking over the world, no trying to make it overtly epic or big.

No trying to return, no trying to ge pwoer back.

Just Freddy, in a small town, doing what he does best with great style and decent characters and plot. Think NOES3 basically.


- Scarecrow

[The Dream Master]

No taking over the world, no trying to make it overtly epic or big.

No trying to return, no trying to ge pwoer back.

Just Freddy, in a small town, doing what he does best with great style and decent characters and plot. Think NOES3 basically.




I'd absolutely agree with this if we're talking about any normal sequel, but I think a final film (which isn't what the thread was about, but it was what I was talking about), it should be a bit more epic than a normal entry. I personally love the idea of taking Freddy beyond Springwood; hell, he's already conquered that town once, so to keep placing him there would be re-treading old ground. But would I watch it in place of a remake? Yep.

So, basically my idea Nightmare film would be what Kane Lives said earlier: anything besides a remake. :)

[Deathscythe]

So, basically my idea Nightmare film would be what Kane Lives said earlier: anything besides a remake. :)

and a prequel.:)

[The Dream Master]

Hell, I'd take a prequel before a remake. At least it'd have Englund. Shit, I'd settle for Hooper to basically come in and remake "No More Mr. Nice Guy" before I'd watch a remake.

[Scarecrow]

For a last film I'd go even MORE personal. I think Freddy trying to take over the world in any way is a bit too out there, a bit too SF, not quite right for the character IMO. A last film perhaps would see Freddy discover there is another Elm Street child, a last one that DID escape him he never knew about, far from Springwood.

And since he's free of the town after Freddy's Dead, he sets out to get his final vengance, perhaps with someone from his past (Alice?) appearing for an epic confrontation. But keep it personal I guess, make it about his victims, all the suffering he's caused. Go into detail about the horrors he commited as a MAN.

Hell, an ending that comes to me, fully exploring the notion of pulling him into the real world... have that occur again somehow but this time instead of killing him they use a form of Hypnocil, altered to suppress dreaming and as a weapon against Freddy... and end the film with the government giving him a labomy and lockign him up in the real world, trapped, mindless, powerless. It'd be majorly different, yeah, but you'd certainly have an ending!


- Scarecrow

[The Dream Master]

Very interesting ideas there, Scare. I could see that working too as a final film. I especially like the idea of Alice coming back, but we all know it's about 15 years too late for that. :(

[Joshg]

The concept of Part 1, and the atmosphere, creepiness and style of part 2.

[nottidelterrore]

Watch the first and apply.

My thoughts exactly.

[Scarecrow]

Very interesting ideas there, Scare. I could see that working too as a final film. I especially like the idea of Alice coming back, but we all know it's about 15 years too late for that. :(

Probably have the recast. :p But I was thinking in more a Dr Loomis / Van Helsing role for a hypothetical final Nightmare, an older character with maturity and widom to deal with Freddy. Have to be done well to introduce them to a new audie nce mind. On the other hand, it could just as well be a new character with a history with Freddy.


- Scarecrow

[The Dream Master]

Jacob could be used that way. Just explain that he's the son of someone who had a history with Freddy. Casual viewers will be satisfied, and hardcore fans will eat that shit up. He won't exactly be a really old character, but he'd be old enough at this point.

[Kane Lives]

On the other hand, it could just as well be a new character with a history with Freddy.


- Scarecrow


That's kind of the way I look at bringing back old characters. The studios don't tend to agree, but I don't perceive the involvement of a past character to be a major problem. IMO a few of the new characters in FVJ, had just as much backstory and baggage as someone like Alice would bring to a new film.

[Deathscythe]

Hell, I'd take a prequel before a remake. At least it'd have Englund. Shit, I'd settle for Hooper to basically come in and remake "No More Mr. Nice Guy" before I'd watch a remake.

Yeah, I wouldn't want both but I'd rather have a prequel myself.

[Scarecrow]

Perhaps a prequel / final sequel, simialr I suppose to freddy's Dead but done far more serious. In fact, I'd find it interetsing to contrast the really violent, nasty realism of the human Freddy's child murders with the hysterical, drema-killer who loves everything he does and kills with a joke.


- Scarecrow