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The Dark Vampire
02-02-2009, 11:08 AM
It's not that far off and the build up is alreday on

Confirmed Matches

Randy Orton vs ????? for the WWE Championship




The Wrestling Observer is reporting that there are several matches tentatively scheduled for Wrestlemania 25 right now, although plans could change at any time. At this point, it looks likely we will be seeing either an HBK vs Undertaker or HBK vs JBL match. Also, Jeff Hardy vs Matt Hardy seems to be in the works for the big event. Edge vs Triple H for the WWE title is most likely to make the card, which leaves the World Heavyweight Championship match the most unpredictable at this point. Most would think Randy Orton vs John Cena is a lock, however that leaves out Chris Jericho and at this point plans seem to have fallen through to have him wrestle Mickey Rourke. As far as the ECW title is concerned, it seems as if the company is heading toward a Jack Swagger vs Tommy Dreamer match at Wrestlemania, but considering the way creative has consistently snubbed Dreamer, I doubt the feud will make it that far.


http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/3883682/9472890

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/3883682/9525672

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/3883682/9473426

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/3883682/9556392
Money in the Bank Ladder Match

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/3883682/9566536
Extreme Rules Match

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/3883682/9592030
WWE Tag Team Champions vs. World Tag Team Champions (Unified Tag Team Championship Match)

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/3883682/9601282

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/3883682/9652330
Chris Jericho vs. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper, Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat & Jimmy "Superfly" Snuka with Ric Flair in The Legends Corner

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/3883682/9525898
25-Diva Battle Royal

HiCkMaN!
02-02-2009, 08:16 PM
i think Orton may fave Stone Cold, When Steph said "we got bigger plans for you" before Shane'O jumped Orton she could have Ment Stone Cold At Mania wud have made sense since he is going in the hall of fame would make sense for him to have 1 wrestling match

Uncle Hoody
02-03-2009, 04:09 AM
May the fire of a thousand suns infect the colon of the WWE writer that causes that abomination occur.

The Dark Vampire
02-03-2009, 04:44 PM
It seems that Mickey Rourke has dropped out of the WM match from what I have read it actually was going to happen.

I wonder if his agents or other ppl in Hollywood have had a word with him and talked him out of it.

Maybe they thought that after what is it about 20 years he's finally been taken seriously again they didn't want to blow it by having him involved as something as lowbrow as WWE and wrestling they could of pointed out he did a movie about it so knows what it's like

Maybe they thought if he did WM he could juts kiss goodbye to his Oscar

Boiler Room Brawler
02-03-2009, 11:10 PM
Man I hope that HBK/Taker happens.
Silver Anniversary of the company's biggest show of the year? Check.
"Mr. Wrestlemania" vs. the Undefeated Dead Man (16-0)? Check.
Two of the longest tenured and yet two of the best workers in the company? Check.

jasonlives13
02-04-2009, 07:17 PM
Orton Vs Austin would be cool

DedKid
02-07-2009, 07:16 PM
I've been assuming for months that Orton would wrestle Stone Cold at WM25 for two reasons: 1) What better Legend for Randy to try & kill than that of The Rattlesnake in his home state, no less? And 2) Since it's been obvious that Austin vs Hogan has never been anything more than just a fanboy's wetdream, who else on the roster is not only a main event draw, someone we haven't seen in an extensive feud with Austin before, as well as someone that wouldn't have any gripes about doing the job to him (unlike the egomaniacal Hogan).

From the majority of what I've been reading over the last two months though, Austin doesn't have that "one last match" left, so I'm thinking that unless that's just bogus, planted information, we're not going to be seeing it, and we can probably expect something more like Orton vs Vince..... :duh:

TheShowstoppa
02-11-2009, 08:56 PM
Confirmed: Unless Austin or Vince wind up having the title in arms by Wrestlemania, it's highly unlikely that they will fight Orton. He'll get his main event title shot at Wrestlemania.

pa®tci
02-15-2009, 01:43 PM
Today I saw a spoiler of if Rourke with Flair in his corner, cancels the match with Jericho at Mania, that is most likely for a match between Chris and Austin. I think they can easily put this one into a nice, making sense storyline. As for me, I think I am rooting for the celebrity one, not sure of what Austin (I prefer Rourke, OK? :p ) can do nowadays in the ring + never really been a fan of his.

The Dark Vampire
03-03-2009, 01:00 PM
Matches updated in 1st post

TheShowstoppa
03-04-2009, 03:40 AM
Yeah... I wouldn't be surprised if Edge and Big Show ISN'T the WHC match at WM. Why? Because they're not going to snub the WWE's top competitor in order to do that. John Cena will in some way be in the WHC at Wrestlemania, but how will unfold within the next 20 + days.

I'm kinda pissed that HBK is facing The Undertaker at the big dance, because I, like everyone else in this room, knows UT will defeat HBK. However, I think it's a good angle they used with him beating the Undefeated Koslov. It's not happening though. Is it true that Undertaker is retiring soon?

nottidelterrore
03-04-2009, 03:43 AM
Mark Henry is also going to be in the Money in the Bank match after he won on ECW tonight.

The Dark Vampire
03-04-2009, 07:51 AM
Yeah... I wouldn't be surprised if Edge and Big Show ISN'T the WHC match at WM. Why? Because they're not going to snub the WWE's top competitor in order to do that. John Cena will in some way be in the WHC at Wrestlemania, but how will unfold within the next 20 + days.

I'm kinda pissed that HBK is facing The Undertaker at the big dance, because I, like everyone else in this room, knows UT will defeat HBK. However, I think it's a good angle they used with him beating the Undefeated Koslov. It's not happening though. Is it true that Undertaker is retiring soon?

Undertaker has been rumoured to be retiring soon for at least 5-6 years now however HBK is rumoured to of said he will hang up the boots at WM26

But I agree we know HBK won't take the streak as there is no need or point in him doing so.

Also yeah it's obvious that Cena will either replace Big Show or get added to the match if that happns both title matches will be a Raw vs SD match but as we know only 1 title will go back to Raw once the 1st title match is over we will know who will win the 2nd (unless they do pull a swerve and still have both belts on 1 show and move a champ in the draft 2 weeks later)

DedKid
03-04-2009, 10:31 AM
I definitely smell Triple Threat for the WHC. Edge isn't going to lose the title in the next few weeks, because Cena vs Big Show is hardly a main event. Then again, neither is Edge vs Big Show. Cena vs Edge is fucking boring at this point after their year plus feud. Cena/Edge/Show still isn't all that great.

They should have thrown a curve & went with Edge vs Orton and HHH vs Cena Part 3. Both of those would be much better than what we're seemingly winding up with & it's pretty self-explanatory as to why :)

The Dark Vampire
03-04-2009, 11:38 AM
I was hoping they would go for Edge vs HHH vs Orton (maybe throw Cena in there) in a winner take all unification match

pa®tci
03-04-2009, 12:54 PM
^ No way Hose. :p Or at least this is what Vince is saying. I read it somewhere a while ago, that the creative did want it to split the two world titles, but Vince told them that there is no chance in hell to do that. :P It is because he is looking to that WCW title like his biggest trophy in the busyness, so it is no likely we see that. However, I hope we see the tag team titles to be unify, there is already something like a storyline about it, hope it ends with undisputed tag team champions at Mania (likely to happen, after nor Miz, nor Morrison did qualify for MITB).

The Dark Vampire
03-04-2009, 01:26 PM
There is rumours I read about 2 months ago that Vince has been talking about reunifying all the main titles again (WWE and WHc both tag and both women's )

I do feel it's stupid to have 2-3 World titles for 1 company so I do think they should reunify them but still have each show and a secondary title as a brand exclusive

TheShowstoppa
03-04-2009, 02:01 PM
I personally don't think they should have gotten rid of the European title if they decided to keep the US title on Smackdown. I didn't even know there was a Diva's title until Monday when I watched. If they unify the titles, it's going to kill some things: Like the prospect for the Smackdown VS. Raw title they've been using for a few years. It's like their version of Madden.

And just for the record: it's no way Jose. Hose = that fun tubular thing that hooks up to a spout outside and water comes out of it.

The Dark Vampire
03-04-2009, 02:10 PM
Your not missing much with the Divas title when the only 2 champs have been McCool and Maryse and it looks like it was designed by a 4 year old with a butterfly and Barbie obsession

OT
The SD diva division sucks the top face is Maria in fact with the Bellas rumoured heel turn she will be the only face diva on SD until Gail Kim shows up the division is so bad Victoria quit rather than be involved in it

pa®tci
03-04-2009, 02:10 PM
^ Yeah, the Diva's belt is a complete joke, and you thought that the Cena water-meter is a bad design title. :duh: I am HAPPY with Victoria leaving. She was doing nothing but a jobbing. What a shame, one of the best female wrestlers in (at least) the last decade...

... And just for the record: it's no way Jose. Hose = that fun tubular thing that hooks up to a spout outside and water comes out of it.

Yeah, I know, unfortunately, the "H" is just next to the "J" on the keyboard. :p

And BDW, now I can start see this Cena/Hogan match. Other way it might be a triple threat with Edge© vs Cena vs Big Show. I don't like the second variant, though.

DedKid
03-04-2009, 04:53 PM
I still can't see a Cena vs Hogan match at all. Aside from the fact that it'd be boring as hell, who'd go over? They're arguably the two biggest faces the company has, I doubt they'd have one put down the other at Mania's silver anniversary unless the loser was going to pull a heel turn, and since Hogan sure wouldn't be sticking around.... Besides, the last thing I read, Vince and Hogan couldn't come to an agreement. Where did you read that originally anyway?

pa®tci
03-04-2009, 05:07 PM
It was a rumor from some weeks, didn't read that Vince and Hogan didn't came on an agreement. And why should someone turn heel? Like when was that snooze fest against Warrior. You have to admit it, that a match like this one would be a big draw and with the possibility of not having a big celebrity on WM 25, it could be the top draw match there (they somehow managed to fucked up the HBK vs Undertaker build :duh: ).

nottidelterrore
03-04-2009, 05:11 PM
Hogan needs to stay away from Wrestlemania & the public eye in general.

jasonlives13
03-05-2009, 03:18 PM
Hogan won't be at wrestlemania and they won't have them fighting there number 1 babyface john cena

The Dark Vampire
03-05-2009, 07:35 PM
There is talk of WWE adding a Diva's Battle Royal to the Wrestlemania card. The plan is to have 25 Diva's involved as it's the 25th anniversary of Wrestlemania. They have
contacted a number of women from the past about coming in for this.

Credit>Gerweck.net

pa®tci
03-05-2009, 08:16 PM
Wasn't this dropped some time ago? I really hope this one don't take place...

The Dark Vampire
03-05-2009, 08:32 PM
Wasn't this dropped some time ago? I really hope this one don't take place...

I wouldn't mind seeing a few real female wrestling (not divas) legends come back but I can just see it been a diva eye candy crapfest

pa®tci
03-05-2009, 08:38 PM
Now I read that it was said, that this might lead to the titles being unify. If that's true, we might see the same for the tag titles. *yupeee* And BDW, take a guess if this happens, which titles design will be the one to be kept. :duh:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/TheGame86/www_divas_championship-1.jpg

The Dark Vampire
03-05-2009, 08:43 PM
I think they will go for the classic women's as they will have to call it what is written on the title with 55 years of history with it

pa®tci
03-05-2009, 08:46 PM
Than what was the use of this Divas belt anyway?Also, remember how they want it to bury the IC title some years ago. I remember it was even out of the picture.

The Dark Vampire
03-05-2009, 08:54 PM
I read Victoria and McCool and at the time Torrie Wilson kept on asking for a SD women's championship so in the end they just did it to shut them up.

I think now they have realised it was a bad idea well not a bad idea it would of worked if they had a good women's division

if they do unify the women's and tag titles I think it will give a better chance to them unifying the world titles

Boiler Room Brawler
03-05-2009, 09:05 PM
I do think that the Women's Championships should be a sort of "cross-brand" belt.

I do wish that the belts would be consolidated but I think that it's going to be a long, long time before that happens.

pa®tci
03-05-2009, 09:14 PM
... if they do unify the women's and tag titles I think it will give a better chance to them unifying the world titles

Vince have totally rejected this idea, I even remember wrote it here somewhere. He looks to that WCW title too much like a trophy, so he is not about let go of it like this. Other way is if they bring back the Undisputed Champion topic, but I don't see it likely to happen. WWE have too many Main Eventers nowadays.

Boiler Room Brawler
03-05-2009, 09:23 PM
I remember hearing about the writers wanting to unify the belts but they were shot down by Vince.

The Dark Vampire
03-05-2009, 09:25 PM
Vince have totally rejected this idea, I even remember wrote it here somewhere. He looks to that WCW title too much like a trophy, so he is not about let go of it like this. Other way is if they bring back the Undisputed Champion topic, but I don't see it likely to happen. WWE have too many Main Eventers nowadays.

Vince can change his mind it was reported only last month (maybe late Jan) that Vince was thinking of unifying the title again as he thinks WWE should only have 1 main championship

But it also said his opinion on that changes with the wind he's always going from been dead against it to wanting it to happen

Special Killa B
03-05-2009, 10:59 PM
I'm calling it now, Trish Stratus wins the 25 Diva Battle Royal!!

TheShowstoppa
03-06-2009, 12:57 PM
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y22/TheGame86/www_divas_championship-1.jpg

:duh: What obscessed, pre-hormonal tween puked this monstrocity up? It's hideous! It seriously does look like Barbie cross polinated with a goddamn Powerpuff to create that shit! It looks HORRIBLE.

The Dark Vampire
03-06-2009, 12:59 PM
I swear they only did it to prove they could make something worse than the spinner

TheShowstoppa
03-06-2009, 01:25 PM
The Spinner's a horrible looking belt too. I MEAN HORRIBLE. I liked the two championship belts from 1996 - probably 2002. (Mainly the one that the Rock and Austin predominately held). I think Austin's Stone Cold Championship belt was awesome. They need to do that shit more often.

I will say, I also liked the old Intercontinental belt more than the new one. The new one just looks HIDEOUS!

The Dark Vampire
03-06-2009, 01:32 PM
The Spinner could of been worse Cena did an interview and said the original plan was to put a small TV in the belt but they couldn't get it to work.

I have no problems with a Champion having their own personalised version of the belt as long as it looks good Edge was going to get one but they didn't have time to make it so he ended with the the Rated R Spinner

DedKid
03-06-2009, 11:08 PM
I really thought they'd drop the spinner belt in the trash where it belongs after Cena lost it. I'm actually amazed HHH hasn't made a stink about having to wear that piece of crap. If anyone could get it changed to a normal, respectable looking belt, it'd be him.

And from the latest I read on Wrestlezone, don't count on seeing Hogan there (yay! :D), he just had back surgery. It was minor, but he's got a 6 week rehab to get through, so I think it's safe to say that aside from a non-competitive appearance, he ain't gonna be involved.

Boiler Room Brawler
03-07-2009, 03:54 AM
Complaining about Cena's belt and then praising Austin's belt (which was in fact awesome) seems a little bit like doubletalk.

I am surprised that HHH has not had a custom belt himself.

pa®tci
03-07-2009, 05:57 AM
I believe that the belt was left the same is because the little (fuckers) kiddies are buying it (literally) like a candy. Not a big surprise when you know it looks like a box of candies itself. :duh: BDW did you recognized that it doesn't spin anymore?

DedKid
03-07-2009, 06:41 AM
BDW did you recognized that it doesn't spin anymore?

Yeah, but it still looks like something that would happen if Big Show ate Michael Jackson's 1983 wardrobe & shit it out onto a belt ;)

I wish Cryme Tyme would steal that fucking thing & pawn it..... :duh:

jasonlives13
03-07-2009, 11:19 AM
There should be no spinning belt, they should just go back to the wwe title that brock lesnar and the rest had, divas belt is atrocious

The Dark Vampire
03-07-2009, 10:28 PM
- Jason Powell of Prowrestling.net is reporting that former WWE Diva Jackie Gayda has been contacted about appearing at Wrestlemania. As we previously reported there are plans to hold a 25 Diva battle royal at the event. Tammy Sytch aka Sunny is also claiming she has been contacted as well.
Credit>Gerweck.net

nottidelterrore
03-07-2009, 10:34 PM
I agree about the spinner belt needing to take a hike. It's ugly as hell & has overstayed its welcome.

They should go back to the Undisputed Title design or even the Attitude Era belt.

The diva battle royal sounds terrible. No thanks.

DedKid
03-07-2009, 11:28 PM
Big Show dropped a spoiler during his appearance on VH1 today regarding his match, it's going to be Show vs. Edge vs. Cena. That one just has pure excitement written all over it. What a thrilling idea for a top tier main event. And yes, those last two sentences are dripping with sarcasm :duh:

I can't believe that's the best they can do. Even Orton/HHH, while they've worked good programs together, we've seen them go at it plenty of times. Hell, we saw them in a Last Man Standing Match. Edge vs Orton would have been so much better. They haven't had a match in years, they're the top two heels in the company, it'd be great. As for HHH, throw him in the ring with Jericho. Hunter's relationship with Flair would have been the perfect way to bring him into that storyline. Those are another two we haven't gotten to see mix it up in a while. So far, they're not giving us anything new & the only matches I'm excited about are Taker/HBK and Money in the Bank.

The Dark Vampire
03-07-2009, 11:48 PM
I was excited about MITB until Mark Henry was put into it what the hell where they thinking I doubt he'll even be able to get up the ladder

DedKid
03-08-2009, 01:44 AM
I was excited about MITB until Mark Henry was put into it what the hell where they thinking I doubt he'll even be able to get up the ladder

I can't see him getting his fat ass up there either :p

But with Punk, and if Miz, Morrison, Rey, & hopefully Evan Bourne get in, it should be pretty damn good :)

Darth Reaper
03-08-2009, 02:50 AM
I'm afraid to ask this question but is Kane doing anything in Wrestlemania? I was hoping that he might be involved in the Money in the Bank match. I know he could get up the ladder ( :D ), and I still want to see him get his shot at one of the big titles and be used properly with it.

I hope 'Taker beats HBK. I really do want to see him retire with his streak intact.

nottidelterrore
03-08-2009, 03:02 AM
Kane is in Money in the Bank. :)

Demon
03-08-2009, 03:54 AM
so is mark henry,watch his shelton benjamin stealth

DedKid
03-08-2009, 07:59 AM
Kane is in Money in the Bank. :)

Yeah, I guess it's too much to ask to put him in a match that he'd actually win (last year's squash against Chavo doesn't count) :mad:

pa®tci
03-08-2009, 02:45 PM
Despite being just four weeks away, plenty of tickets remain for WrestleMania in Houston, including 5th row seats ($755) and 3rd row on the riser seats ($255).

Wonder what this is supposed to mean... :geek:

The Dark Vampire
03-08-2009, 02:54 PM
Wonder what this is supposed to mean... :geek:

TBH I don't think it has anything to do with WWE been bad or unpopular at the moment but more to do with the current financial crisis ppl just can't afford that much money any more

Darth Reaper
03-08-2009, 02:56 PM
Yeah, I guess it's too much to ask to put him in a match that he'd actually win (last year's squash against Chavo doesn't count)- Dedkid

Well, I'm going to hope against hope that he wins. It's a fool's hope to be sure but what else do I have?

The Dark Vampire
03-08-2009, 03:09 PM
After what happened on SD this will be the 1st MITB match not to have any of the Hardys in it

Edit it last years didn't after Jeff was suspended thou Matt did do a run it

However I can see a Matt vs Jeff match where they do it like Bret and Owen and Undertaker and Kane where over the next few weeks Matt just keeps provoking Jeff until in the end he can't take any more

jasonlives13
03-08-2009, 05:14 PM
I was excited about MITB until Mark Henry was put into it what the hell where they thinking I doubt he'll even be able to get up the ladder

He'll probably get injured on his way to the ring :p

The Dark Vampire
03-08-2009, 05:49 PM
He'll probably get injured on his way to the ring :p

I am hoping they pull a Kofi on him and he gets attacked on way to the ring but I think he will just be there to fight Kane to maybe set up a feud

Darth Reaper
03-09-2009, 09:44 AM
I am hoping they pull a Kofi on him and he gets attacked on way to the ring but I think he will just be there to fight Kane to maybe set up a feud- The Dark Vampire

I hope not. I want Kane to move on to bigger and better things, or at least bigger and better feuds, rather than getting stuck in another feud with Mark Henry. Kane's had to job for Henry too many times as it is.

jasonlives13
03-09-2009, 04:31 PM
I would wet my pants if Y2J come out in a few weeks after humilating the legends and macho man's music hit =D, never gonna happen but that would be awesome

Kane Lives
03-09-2009, 05:05 PM
I would wet my pants if Y2J come out in a few weeks after humilating the legends and macho man's music hit =D, never gonna happen but that would be awesome

Indeed. :sniffle:

Special Killa B
03-09-2009, 06:12 PM
I would wet mine even more if it was Bret Hart!

Hart vs Jericho would be a wrestling classic!!

jasonlives13
03-09-2009, 06:48 PM
I would wet mine even more if it was Bret Hart!

Hart vs Jericho would be a wrestling classic!!

Bret can never physically wrestle anymore since he had his stroke back in 02, bret is my all time favourite, Bret said he's done with wrestling as its not as good as it once was which is true, just with the randy savage dvd coming this year, and hall of fame I would to see an appearance but he's on such bad terms with Vince it will probs never happen

The Dark Vampire
03-09-2009, 06:49 PM
Torrie Wilson confirmed on her Myspace page that she will be at Wrestlemania.
Credit>Gerweck.Net

Damn it damn it to hell though we'd got rid of that useless bint

pa®tci
03-09-2009, 07:24 PM
Come on, it's obvious she'll be there only for that Battle Royal, don't whimper about it. :D

Uncle Hoody
03-09-2009, 07:32 PM
Yeah that means bathroom break.

The Dark Vampire
03-10-2009, 01:42 AM
Dave Meltzer is reporting that there is about a 75% chance that Wendi Richter will be involved in the match.

- Molly Holly has been contacted about being in the match but there is some feeling that she may not do it. She has not had a real match since leaving WWE several years ago and some say she has moved on with her life.

- Other names who were contacted but are not confirmed for the match include Mae Young and Trish Stratus.
Credit>Gerweck.Net

Special Killa B
03-10-2009, 07:07 PM
I'm calling it again Trish Stratus with the win! :)

The Dark Vampire
03-11-2009, 08:18 AM
Matches updated in 1st post
ADDED:
- Despite internet reports, former WCW and WWE diva Debra will not be taking part in the diva battle royal at Wrestlemania 25. She will however be at Booker T's Charity event as a vendor guest for Highspots in Houston April 3rd.
Credit>Gerweck.Net

The Dark Vampire
03-12-2009, 09:21 AM
On the heels of Debra's agent confirming that she will not participate in the announced divas battle royal at Wrestlemania 25, GERWECK.NET can confirm two other former WWE divas have other plans.




- Nora Greenwald (Molly Holly) will not be competing in the diva battle royal at Wrestlemania next month. However, Greenwald will be signing autographs at WWE's Axxess. In other news about the former WWE Women's champion, Greenwald will be departing Monday for a two week trip in Afghanistan.




- Also Afghanistan (and Qatar) bound is former WWE diva Terri Runnels (Marlena). Greenwald and Runnels are taking part in the 10-day Divas of Wrestling Goodwill Military Tour. Runnnels has never been into wrestling other women. "Female matches are not my thing," Runnels commented to us. She is heading out of the country before returning home to host a WrestleMania 25 Spectacular Weekend in Taylor, Michigan.
Credit>Gerweck.net

nottidelterrore
03-12-2009, 02:06 PM
Sucks that Molly won't be in it. I've always thought she was pretty decent in the ring.

The Dark Vampire
03-12-2009, 02:19 PM
Sucks that Molly won't be in it. I've always thought she was pretty decent in the ring.

True but from what I understand it was her choice she was asked by WWE but felt as she hadn't had a match in years she wouldn't be able to be in ring ready in time

Dogmatic Insanity
03-12-2009, 02:23 PM
Got my tickets and the room reserved. Hope it's a good time!

The Dark Vampire
03-13-2009, 10:30 AM
- Mike Johnson is reporting that Lita has e-mailed fans via The Luchagor's Myspace.com account to let them know that she will not be at Wrestlemania. She will be at Booker T's Legends of Wrestling Fanfest charity event on Friday 4/3.
Credit>Gerweck.net

Darth Reaper
03-13-2009, 01:20 PM
Yeesh. One wonders if they're even going to be able to pull off this battle royal when so many ladies are bailing on them.

The Dark Vampire
03-13-2009, 01:47 PM
Yeesh. One wonders if they're even going to be able to pull off this battle royal when so many ladies are bailing on them.

Most of it will be filled by the current batch of great and trained female wrestlers (Nattie-Beth-Melina-Mickie-Katie ect) then the useless should be fired want to make me put my foot through the screen eye candy bimbos (Kelly -Maria- The Bellas-McCool-Maryse ect)

We will get a few old ones back I'm sure they will pull it off but they will have to put some pretty crap ones in they may even have to throw Lillian in there

jasonlives13
03-13-2009, 01:51 PM
Yeesh. One wonders if they're even going to be able to pull off this battle royal when so many ladies are bailing on them.

Haha I like how a few of them are going to booker T's event then WM 25, does vince think he can just click his fingers and they'll all come running?

Nancy Thompson
03-14-2009, 08:06 AM
I think the battle royal is stupid in the first place. They should just have Raw Divas vs Smackdown Divas or Champion vs Champion Melina vs Maryse and do not have it like the match was on raw last week since that total sucked

The Dark Vampire
03-14-2009, 08:16 AM
I think the battle royal is stupid in the first place. They should just have Raw Divas vs Smackdown Divas or Champion vs Champion Melina vs Maryse and do not have it like the match was on raw last week since that total sucked

I was hoping they would just have a title vs title unification match and admit The Divas Title just hasn't worked at all they have made it look crap and just given it to useless eye candy crap.

TBH I would live to see a Tri Brand Battle royal any more than a 25 diva battle royal as either way it will be full of crap like

Brie & Nikki Bella
Candice (though she is injured yet again)
Eve
Kelly
Layla
Maria
Maryse
Michelle McCool
Tiffany

They do have enough female wrestlers that they could put on a good match but they never will

Nancy Thompson
03-14-2009, 05:29 PM
- Coming out of last night's SmackDown, here's the updated card for WWE's WrestleMania 25:

WWE Title Match
Randy Orton vs. Triple H

World Title Match
Big Show vs. John Cena vs. Edge

Brother vs. Brother Match
Matt Hardy vs. Jeff Hardy

25 Divas Battle Royal
Featuring Divas of the past and present, with the winner being crowned Miss WrestleMania

The Streak On The Line
Shawn Michaels vs. The Undertaker

Money in the Bank Ladder Match
Finlay vs. MVP vs. Shelton Benjamin vs. Kane vs. CM Punk vs. Kofi Kingston vs. Mark Henry vs. Christian Cage

pa®tci
03-14-2009, 07:26 PM
Curious fact about the MITB suitcase:

Edge is the man involved, directly or indirectly, in the "cashing" of each and every "Money In The Bank" so far:

2005 - Edge wins the MITB, later to became WWE champion.
2006 - RVD wins the MITB and later wins the WWE title on "One Night Stand" with a help from Edge, who Spears John Cena trough a table at the end of the match.
2007 - Mr. Kennedy wins the MITB, but later Edge wins the suitcase, after a match on RAW and wins the WHC from the Undertaker on SmackDown!
2008 - CM Punk wins the MITB and than wins the WWE title after cashing against Еdge on RAW.

I start it to think... is it possible for Christian to win the MITB and later the same night to cash it against the eventual Triple Threat winner Edge?

The Dark Vampire
03-14-2009, 08:32 PM
Curious fact about the MITB suitcase:



I start it to think... is it possible for Christian to win the MITB and later the same night to cash it against the eventual Triple Threat winner Edge?

If they do MITB every year I think sooner or later someone will cash it in on the night and alos someone will wait a full year and cash it in at the next WM

jasonlives13
03-15-2009, 11:05 AM
If they do MITB every year I think sooner or later someone will cash it in on the night and alos someone will wait a full year and cash it in at the next WM

Yeah I think that would be cool, even if you were in the royal rumble and were eliminated you could still use it as a title shot at mania

The Dark Vampire
03-17-2009, 01:42 AM
On the Diva battle royal image what was shown on Raw Gail Kim was in the picture so i guess she will return either a WM or just before

TheShowstoppa
03-17-2009, 06:26 AM
I'm not going to lie... I look for the two best matches of the night, no matter who fights for what Championship, to be HBK vs. Undertaker and Matt Vs. Jeff. I don't care what you say, but there, RIGHT FUCKING THERE are 4 people who deliver in EVERY Wrestlemania I've EVER watched them in. I find all of them to be phenomenal and I can't wait to see those particular matches. period.

zombie extra 3
03-17-2009, 08:52 AM
I'm not going to lie... I look for the two best matches of the night, no matter who fights for what Championship, to be HBK vs. Undertaker and Matt Vs. Jeff. . Matt and Jeff Hardy wrestled each other on Vengeance 2001 in a bad match. But that was a fluke. I'm pretty sure they will have a great match at this WrestleMania.

jasonlives13
03-17-2009, 10:47 AM
I havent really been a fan of Jeff 's at all, I think Matt is the more talented out of the two

The Dark Vampire
03-17-2009, 10:51 AM
I havent really been a fan of Jeff 's at all, I think Matt is the more talented out of the two

True in fact I've read interviews and even in the Hardy Boys book Jeff even says Matt is a better wrestler than he is

jasonlives13
03-17-2009, 10:58 AM
True in fact I've read interviews and even in the Hardy Boys book Jeff even says Matt is a better wrestler than he is

I have a feeling Matt will be in line to win this time, since on Vengeance 2001, jeff won, so they might have it that matt wins the same way jeff did with the ref not seeing the foot on the ropes or something like that. Pitty theres no lita ...... :p

nottidelterrore
03-17-2009, 01:26 PM
I havent really been a fan of Jeff 's at all, I think Matt is the more talented out of the two

I used to like Jeff up until his TNA days. He's been very stale since then. I've always liked Matt & thought that he was pretty good in the ring. I hope Matt wins at Wrestlemania just because I don't like Jeff. Hahhaa.

The Dark Vampire
03-17-2009, 01:31 PM
I'm unsure who will win at WM it could go either way but I'm pretty sure Jeff will win the feud

nottidelterrore
03-17-2009, 02:15 PM
Yeah I think Jeff will take the feud too because he's more popular & sells more merchandise than Matt.

The Dark Vampire
03-17-2009, 02:46 PM
Dave Meltzer is reporting that World Tag Team champion The Miz and John Morrison will face WWE Tag Team champions Carlito and Primo Colon with both sets of tag team titles at stake at Wrestlemania 25 on 4/5.
Credit>Gerweck.Net

I saw this coming weeks ago I do hope this does lead to these and then other titles been unified

TheShowstoppa
03-17-2009, 04:13 PM
I think had they decided to unify the titles, it would have also been both WWE and WHC on the line against the other champ at WM. I haven't watched Raw for 2 weeks (moving) so I'm interested in seeing how it pans out. Also - The only way the Diva's and Women's champs can be unified would be if they were both on the line for the Battle Royale.

Nancy Thompson
03-17-2009, 11:28 PM
tell the truth i hope both Hardys get their ass kick i am starting to dislike them both

pa®tci
03-18-2009, 07:35 AM
I hope this tag team match to be a TLC one. They can not do WM 25 without one of these.

About Matt and Jeff, I am with Matt here. He is way more capable in the ring, he is having a nice math skills, good in ring psychology and actually can work a match. Jeff, on the other hand, is just a spot monkey. I just really wish both of them could work with the mic as well...

Damn... HBK vs the Undertaker gets so much intensive build this week... We are having and some sort of a heel HBK now, love it! Does someone thinks it might be the ME this year? I doubt it because of HHH vs Orton. I truly believe Randy will grab the title and in the WWE championship match Cena will turn out the winner, just to compensate the heel victory, DAMN! Still, two world title changes in one Mania, huh. :doh:
Ha, and I just remember HHH does not have victory on Mania since how long now? :eek: I really don't want to see him with the title after this one. I think it will also suck and story wise.

The Dark Vampire
03-18-2009, 08:19 AM
I hope this tag team match to be a TLC one. They can not do WM 25 without one of these.

I doubt they will do that as MITB is a ladder match and it's doubtful they will have 2 ladder matches
ADDED:
- WWE approached former Women's champion Wendi Richter about competing in the divas battle royal at Wrestlemania 25, but according to the Pro Wrestling Insider, Richter turned it down the offer. Richter's last WWF appearance was in 1985
Credit>Gerweck.Net

Uncle Hoody
03-18-2009, 08:28 AM
Yeah well considering the particulars of Richter's last match...

The Dark Vampire
03-18-2009, 08:33 AM
Yeah well considering the particulars of Richter's last match...

The original screwjob

DedKid
03-18-2009, 08:48 AM
HBK/'Taker, Hardy/Hardy, and MITB are without question, the ones I'm looking most forward to. Orton/HHH will be a good match, but we've seen them feud before. Granted, this time it's more personal, but unless they add some kind of decent stip (like making it a HIAC), then it's really nothing new. Edge/Cena/Show is just fucking dumb, it's barely a good enough main event for low-level PPV. Edge vs Orton would've been a MUCH better way to go.....

The Dark Vampire
03-18-2009, 09:00 PM
Updated in 1st post it's official both sets of tag titles will be unified at WM

PS
About The Bella Twins storyline

I've read either one of them or both will turn heel at WM and join Miz and Morrison if it's just one it will be Nikki

The Dark Vampire
03-21-2009, 07:58 AM
Matches updated in 1st post

jasonlives13
03-21-2009, 09:37 AM
Is it just me or is anyone really enthusastic about this wrestlemania? it just doesnt have the same impact as it should

The Dark Vampire
03-21-2009, 09:54 AM
Is it just me or is anyone really enthusastic about this wrestlemania? it just doesnt have the same impact as it should

It's the matches what are the main problem

1) The Divas Battle Royal
I don't have enough time energy or space to list how many problems this match has

2) Mark Henry in MITB they have done the imposable and ruined a freaking MITB Match

3) The Triple Threat
Big Show in the main event nuff said plus we have seen Cena vs Edge to many times

4) Orton vs HHH ok it will be a good match but again we have seen it to many times

Edge vs Orton and HHH vs Cena would of been better (no matter what anyone thinks Cena will and should be in the main event like it or not he's the top guy)

5) JBL vs Rey
JBL is in the match nuff said

I'm unsure how the Jericho match will go with with all due respect to the legends no matter who he takes on are many years past their prime and are out of shape

jasonlives13
03-21-2009, 11:26 AM
It's the matches what are the main problem

1) The Divas Battle Royal
I don't have enough time energy or space to list how many problems this match has

2) Mark Henry in MITB they have done the imposable and ruined a freaking MITB Match

3) The Triple Threat
Big Show in the main event nuff said plus we have seen Cena vs Edge to many times

4) Orton vs HHH ok it will be a good match but again we have seen it to many times

Edge vs Orton and HHH vs Cena would of been better (no matter what anyone thinks Cena will and should be in the main event like it or not he's the top guy)

5) JBL vs Rey
JBL is in the match nuff said

I'm unsure how the Jericho match will go with with all due respect to the legends no matter who he takes on are many years past their prime and are out of shape

Yeah I think Jericho is underused, he should of been in the main event I think. Instead of Big Show, this storyline with Vickie is ridiculous. And when i was watching the relive moment of WM13 between austin and bret hart on legends of Wrestlemania they turned the screen black and white when austin was bleedin, I was like come on, there aiming towards too many kids now.

And no once can really blame cena for being in the main event, he sells the most tickets and merchandise, whether it be kids or not and there the main buyers now, so vince has toned everything down to appease his main audience (children) where as 10 years ago it was 18-35 year olds

DedKid
03-21-2009, 11:33 PM
DV, I'm glad someone agrees with me about Edge/Orton - - The two biggest heels in the company (aside from Jericho), which one will sink lower to take the gold? Hands down, it could've been the best match on the card, right after HBK/'Taker ;)

Mark fucking Henry doesn't even belong at WM. They knew Evan Bourne was coming back in time, they should've saved that spot in MITB for him. If Punk doesn't take it again, I think MVP will. I'd like to see Christian win it, but Vince needed his arm twisted before he was even allowed in the match, so I'm not keeping my hopes up for him being victorious :shifty:

Hardy vs Hardy in an extreme rules match will be good. HHH/Orton will be decent. The whole thing with Jericho can go either way at this point. 'Taker/HBK is the best thing they've got going. There's not a single match on there aside from that I'm honestly psyched up for, which is a shame, because they're not gonna have this kind of chance again for another 25 years.

pa®tci
03-22-2009, 06:34 AM
... They knew Evan Bourne was coming back in time, they should've saved that spot in MITB for him...

I guess he'll fight Swagger for the ECW title. ;)

The Dark Vampire
03-23-2009, 10:35 AM
- Gail Kim's picture was removed from the Wrestlemania Divas Battle Royal graphic during the Raw replay yesterday on Universal HD.
Credit>Gerweck.net
ADDED:
- Chris Jericho vs Jimmy Snuka, Ricky Steamboat and Roddy Piper in a 3 on 1 match has been removed from the Wrestlemania website. According to Dave Meltzer there has been a change of heart again from Vince concerning this match and we should know more come tonight's edition of Raw.
Credit>Gerweck.net

It does make me wonder just where they are going with this it obvious Jericho will get a match but against just who

DedKid
03-26-2009, 04:54 AM
I guess he'll fight Swagger for the ECW title. ;)

Cool as that would be, I'd much rather see Dreamer fight, and beat Swagger for the ECW title. That guy deserves it more than anyone else on the roster.

pa®tci
03-28-2009, 01:59 PM
So, JBL is going to make history at WM... So what you think? Does this rumors of him retiring with the IC title soon will be the big news? And is it possible for him to retire and the IC title itself (yeah, I know that there is a DVD going out right now).

pa®tci
03-29-2009, 04:40 PM
In what isn't a good sign, WWE is discounting tickets for Wrestlemania. You can now buy four tickets in the $155 price range at $399, which is $225 off the listed price.

Well, with just one match to sell tickets (HBK vs Undertaker), I don't find this to be very odd.

The Dark Vampire
03-29-2009, 11:56 PM
HBK's promo on SD got me thinking both HBK and Undertaker have been in WWE/F for about 20 Years (HBK 21-Undertaker 19) but it is amazing just how few matches they have had in all that time I think it only about 3 maybe 5 televised one on one matches

TheShowstoppa
03-30-2009, 03:09 PM
... I can think of at least 2 right off the top of my head: Royal Rumble 98 Where it was a casket match and HBK got his back fucked up indirectly because of Taker. (I always found it fitting he never once blamed Taker for it. That's class, but that's also the business... you get fucked up sometimes.) and then the (now) famous First ever Hell in a Cell Match. Those two alone were phenomenal matches in and of themselves. I'm sure, more than sure, there are more that I'm thinking of but forgetting...

And I think Taker's been in the business longer than HBK. Well, at least I think he had his WM debut before HBK anyway.

sooners4life98
03-30-2009, 03:34 PM
... I can think of at least 2 right off the top of my head: Royal Rumble 98 Where it was a casket match and HBK got his back fucked up indirectly because of Taker. (I always found it fitting he never once blamed Taker for it. That's class, but that's also the business... you get fucked up sometimes.) and then the (now) famous First ever Hell in a Cell Match. Those two alone were phenomenal matches in and of themselves. I'm sure, more than sure, there are more that I'm thinking of but forgetting...

And I think Taker's been in the business longer than HBK. Well, at least I think he had his WM debut before HBK anyway.


Do you mean as HBK or part of the tag team as The Rockers? I think Shawn actually came before taker

pa®tci
03-30-2009, 03:53 PM
^ Two years before Taker or so. One of these days I was watching and their matches statistic, but can't find it now and am getting really pissed about it. :dead: They were like 5 or 6 and Taker never get a victory (not that Shawn's were clear ones, but still).

The Dark Vampire
03-30-2009, 04:54 PM
^ Two years before Taker or so. One of these days I was watching and their matches statistic, but can't find it now and am getting really pissed about it. :dead: They were like 5 or 6 and Taker never get a victory (not that Shawn's were clear ones, but still).
I think some of those were tag or house shows but even if not only 6 matches in 19 years is still very low

TheShowstoppa
03-30-2009, 07:25 PM
Here's the thing: By the time the two started pairing off in their own matches, they were the icons we've known them to be. Honestly, I don't think you can have them fighting all the time like these shows do now. I honestly get sick of watching (I haven't watched Raw in about 3 weeks now) and seeing the same card week end and week out. There are only so many times I can watch Marlina fight Beth Pheonix before I want to shoot myself in the face. Same with John Cena and HBK or JBL. Please, for the love of god... kill me. ;)

The Dark Vampire
03-31-2009, 02:35 AM
Here's the thing: By the time the two started pairing off in their own matches, they were the icons we've known them to be. Honestly, I don't think you can have them fighting all the time like these shows do now. I honestly get sick of watching (I haven't watched Raw in about 3 weeks now) and seeing the same card week end and week out. There are only so many times I can watch Marlina fight Beth Pheonix before I want to shoot myself in the face. Same with John Cena and HBK or JBL. Please, for the love of god... kill me. ;)

I agree and that's why I think it is special on the very rare occasions they do meet so I don't want to see the normal WM rematch at Backlash (if you notice in the past the Backlash card is at least half full of WM rematches)
ADDED:
Just to let you know I'll do the Wrestlemaina Predictions Contest tomorrow I usually wait until after Smackdown but I doubt any major changers will be made now and if they are I'll update the contest.

pa®tci
03-31-2009, 07:00 PM
I think we might see Rhodes & DiBiasе vs Shane'O & Vince. ;)

Plus, Tazz contract has just expired and he won't be at Mania! This could mean one thing - JBL retires and gets back at the commentary table.

The diva's rumble won't be for unification. :(

sooners4life98
03-31-2009, 07:07 PM
I think we might see Rhodes & DiBiasе vs Shane'O & Vince. ;)

Plus, Tazz contract has just expired and he won't be at Mania! This could mean one thing - JBL retires and gets back at the commentary table.

The diva's rumble won't be for unification. :(

Damn! They really need to get back to wrestling instead of eye candy.

pa®tci
03-31-2009, 07:11 PM
You just call Santino "eye candy"? :D

The Dark Vampire
03-31-2009, 07:14 PM
Damn! They really need to get back to wrestling instead of eye candy.

http://www.g-pop.net/AngleBook.jpg

I swear to god if I were in charge the following would be fired

Brie & Nikki Bella
Candice
Eve
Kelly
Layla
Maria
Maryse
Michelle McCool

I'll give more detailed reasons in the unpopular wrestling thread

pa®tci
03-31-2009, 07:23 PM
^ I'll make HHH and Orton jobbers.

sooners4life98
03-31-2009, 07:29 PM
You just call Santino "eye candy"? :D


You got me!:)

The Dark Vampire
03-31-2009, 10:14 PM
Click here for the WWE Wrestlemaina 25 Predictions Contest (http://www.sickboy.f13-community.co.uk/board/showthread.php?p=320184#post320184)
ADDED:

- From Amy-Elizabeth: At the Wrestlemania press conference in new york this afternoon Eve and Kelly unveiled four of the former divas who will be apart of the Divas Battle Royal this Sunday. They are Sunny, Torrie Wilson, Victoria and Molly Holly. There's still three slots left to be filled.
Credit>Gerweck.Net

The Dream Master
03-31-2009, 10:28 PM
:o

Man, Sunny was my favorite Diva back in the day.

nottidelterrore
03-31-2009, 10:29 PM
Last time Sunny was on Raw(15th anniversary show methinks), she was looking good. For awhile, she was looking really bad. I attribute that to the death of the late great Chris Candido.

The Dark Vampire
04-01-2009, 08:57 AM
- From Arun Alagarajah: during the Wrestlemania press conference on Tuesday, Kelly Kelly anounced that Jackie Gayda-Haas will be in the battle royal.

Credit>Gerweck.Net
ADDED:

- The match with Chris Jericho versus the WWE Legends, 'Superfly' Jimmy Snuka, Ricky 'The Dragon' Steamboat and Rowdy Roddy Piper will now be an
elimination match as Jericho has to pin or submit each of his opponents to win the contest. Ric Flair will be in the corner of the Legends while Mickey Rourke, who will be sitting at ringside, will no doubt have some kind of
involvement.
Credit>Gerweck.Net

DedKid
04-02-2009, 06:51 PM
I was really hoping it would turn out to be Y2J vs The King, but hey, I loved Steamboat back in the day, I'll be happy to see him in the ring again :)

The Dark Vampire
04-02-2009, 07:46 PM
Random thought I guess but can anyone else seeing The Undertaker kick out of The Superkick i turn could HBK kick out of The Tombstone

Boiler Room Brawler
04-02-2009, 10:07 PM
I remember first thinking of HBK/Taker at the '06 Rumble and how well, do this day, they can still work with each other.


Something that I did just think of that could make Jericho/Legends rather epic: what if Rourke, the King, and Flair all partake in run-ins?

Well, okay, Flair wouldn't exactly be a run-in since he'll be at ringside, but I can just imagine Jericho getting the first two eliminated, and then the third one is getting beaten down and so the aforementioned three progressively run in for the save.

The Dark Vampire
04-03-2009, 10:32 PM
When we contacted Nora Greenwald (Molly Holly) today about competing in the diva battle royal at Wrestlemania, she seemed caught off guard by the announcement at the Wrestlemania press conference of her participation. "Guess I better start stretching," Greenwald said.

- Pro Wrestling Insider reports that former WWE diva Nidia is expected to be in the diva battle royal at Wrestlemania.
Credit> Gerweck.net (both stories)
ADDED:
I'll put this here as it does ahve something to do with WM


Booker T on his website posted an open letter to wrestling fans over several talents pulling out of his fanfest. For some reason he blames WWE rather than the talent who verbally committed to his event and then did a 180 when they were offered a Wrestlemania payday. He wrote in the
letter that WWE "unlawfully interceded and deceptively worked to pull these talents from our event." He said he has "contacted legal representation about this deceitful tactic" and was weighing his options. He added: "I want to believe that the WWE, as large and as powerful as it is, would be beyond examples of such pettiness. This event, as well as the PWA, are supporting the Fights for Kids foundation so it consumes me with remorse to see the WWE act in this fashion. Make no mistake however, I have been an underdog my entire life, so I have no problem in taking on yet another Goliath.
Credit>Gerweck.Net

Full Letter
AN OPEN LETTER TO ALL PRO-WRESTLING FANS:

I want to take this opportunity to let the entire wrestling world understand both my frustration and anger, at what should be a momentous time for myself and those close to me. It was nearly two years ago when I made one of the toughest decisions in my life and decided not to re-sign a contract with the WWE. Several factors came into this decision, but at the end of the day I wanted to be able to prove to myself and to anyone with any doubts, that I was indeed a “self-made” man. I had achieved so much in this business that I love before the WWE, and I felt that with the help of my wife and beloved family and friends, that I could achieve so much more.

Many of you are aware of the labor of love to me that is the PWA (Pro-Wrestling Alliance). PWA has honestly been the culmination of hard-work, sacrifice and undying determination by several people. This organization continues to be a driving force in helping me to entertain and improve the community that I came from. The PWA is also the catalyst for my ultimate calling in life which is the Booker T. Fights For Kids Foundation. I, along with my wife have had several sleepless nights, as we’ve fought to build an organization that we can be proud of. We face the same challenges that many independent promoters around the world face, in bringing fans an alternative to experiencing professional wrestling.

Just as many fans are aware of the PWA, even more fans were excited to hear about the upcoming Booker T “Legends of Wrestling” Fanfest taking place this Friday (4/3/09) here in my hometown of Houston, Texas. The Fanfest is totally independent of TNA Wrestling, and is being produced solely by my wife, myself and the PWA staff. The Legends of Wrestling Fanfest will be the biggest and best ever event where fans can come face-to-face with some of the biggest stars (past and present) that this business has ever known. This event has been well- planned over the last year, with many of my peers (friends and foes alike) offering to donate their time and prized possessions in an effort to make this event a success for the benefit of the Fights for Kids Foundation.

We suffered a setback recently when the WWE unexpectedly pulled eight of the invited participants from our Fanfest. Each of these participants had already either gotten clearance from WWE or were not previously contacted to appear in any Wrestlemania weekend activitie s this year. It was only after we published the list of participants, that the WWE unlawfully interceded and deceptively worked to pull these talents from our event. As a side note, I have contacted legal representation about this deceitful tactics and will weigh my options. I do want to sincerely thank each of the pulled participants for their interest in helping to make this Fanfest the best ever, and I hold no malice towards them. It was instilled into me a very long time ago that the show must go on, so I want to formally announce that “The Hardcore Legend” Mick Foley is yet another recent addition to an already sensational Legends of Wrestling Fanfest Lineup!

I want to believe that the WWE, as large and as powerful as it is, would be beyond examples of such pettiness. This event, as well as the PWA, are supporting the Fights for Kids foundation so it consumes me with remorse to see the WWE act in this fashion. Make no mistake however, I have been an underdog my entire life, so I have no problem in taking on yet another Goliath. And we all know what happened to Goliath, and I know you can dig that...

Booker T.
Credit>http://bookertlow.com/letter.shtml

I can see both sides here I can understand why Booker is pissed but lets be honest he only booked it for that day as he knew WM was the next day and in the same town so he tried to piggyback on WM coattails

Plus if he wants to be pissed at anyone be pissed at the ppl who pulled out I doubt Vince and WWE held a gun to their heads

sooners4life98
04-04-2009, 12:15 AM
Credit> Gerweck.net (both stories)
ADDED:
I'll put this here as it does ahve something to do with WM


Credit>Gerweck.Net

Full Letter

Credit>http://bookertlow.com/letter.shtml

I can see both sides here I can understand why Booker is pissed but lets be honest he only booked it for that day as he knew WM was the next day and in the same town so he tried to piggyback on WM coattails

Plus if he wants to be pissed at anyone be pissed at the ppl who pulled out I doubt Vince and WWE held a gun to their heads

Not guns but more money!:D

The Dark Vampire
04-04-2009, 12:51 AM
Not guns but more money!:D

True very true but end of the day the performers who decided to go with WWE's offer did so themselves they didn't have to take up the offer.

Like I said Booker is stupid if he thinks he can sue Vince over it as Vince has done nothing illegal it maybe underhanded sneaky and maybe even unethical but not illegal none of the performers had legally binding contracts just a verbal commitment.

Also even if it did get to court I would bet the judge would say he is suing the wrong person as it is the performers in question who went back on their word so if anybody should be sued it's them.

sooners4life98
04-04-2009, 12:57 AM
True very true but end of the day the performers who decided to go with WWE's offer did so themselves they didn't have to take up the offer.

Like I said Booker is stupid if he thinks he can sue Vince over it as Vince has done nothing illegal it maybe underhanded sneaky and maybe even unethical but not illegal none of the performers had legally binding contracts just a verbal commitment.

Also even if it did get to court I would bet the judge would say he is suing the wrong person as it is the performers in question who went back on their word so if anybody should be sued it's them.

I agree with you 100%. That is Booker's fault trying to have an event WM weekend. IMO, he should have had it a different week.

The Dark Vampire
04-04-2009, 01:08 AM
I agree with you 100%. That is Booker's fault trying to have an event WM weekend. IMO, he should have had it a different week.

True like I said he has it in the same town as WM 1 day before the event all he wanted was to try and make some money off all the fans who would be in town over that weekend

In many ways you can't blame Vince for doing some stuff after all fans only have so much money to spend so more they would spend at Bookers show would mean less to spend on WWE show

jasonlives13
04-04-2009, 10:43 AM
True like I said he has it in the same town as WM 1 day before the event all he wanted was to try and make some money off all the fans who would be in town over that weekend

In many ways you can't blame Vince for doing some stuff after all fans only have so much money to spend so more they would spend at Bookers show would mean less to spend on WWE show

Vince is a dick for doing it, but he didnt force them, they could of turned down the money but, money talks, so Booker should take it up with the guys who've decided to do the wrestlemania gig

The Dark Vampire
04-04-2009, 08:44 PM
We got off lucky Cean's match could of been worse much much worse

- Former WWE champion Hulk Hogan has an interview with PopEater.com where he talks about a variety of subjects including tomorrow's WrestleMania. When asked if he was going to be in Houston for the show, Hogan said that he was supposed to wrestle John Cena for the title but back surgery screwed up the whole plan. "Vince and I were talking about how much involvement I wanted to have in WrestleMania, and if I wanted to keep wrestling, and out of nowhere my back just got really crazy. I went in for an MRI and I had to have some
emergency surgery that threw me out of the game. I was kind of flipped out about it, I thought I'd be the main event this year," Hogan said. Around the No Way Out pay-per-view it was revealed that Hogan and McMahon talked about the possibility for that match and the plan was to go ahead with it which is why Cena was thrown into the three-way since the Hogan match went up in smoke.

Credit>Gerweck.Net

As much as I think the triple threat sucks I'd take that over Hogan vs Cena anyday i have to wonder who would of been booked to win though as I could see it going either way

Special Killa B
04-04-2009, 09:47 PM
I found it quite humorous that Hogan assumed he was fighting for the title just because he might have fought Cena. If it would have been a title match Hogan would have demanded he win the title and refused to job to Cena I could see that happening. And WWE would be better off putting the title on Hornswoggle before that spotlight hogging ass!!

The Dark Vampire
04-04-2009, 09:59 PM
I found it quite humorous that Hogan assumed he was fighting for the title just because he might have fought Cena. If it would have been a title match Hogan would have demanded he win the title and refused to job to Cena I could see that happening. And WWE would be better off putting the title on Hornswoggle before that spotlight hogging ass!!

Wouldn't surprise me especially as Hogan has never held The WHC don't forget that title history started when Eric Bischoff gave the title to HHH and the history of that title started right there

I can see it diving Hogan mad that there is a major World Title he hasn't held

The Dark Vampire
04-05-2009, 11:07 PM
Note this is NOT my predictions that is done in the predictions thread this is more my thoughts

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/3883682/9472890

This hasn't had a bad build up maybe the best build up along side the Undertaker vs HBK match

I think it will be a good match not great but pretty good
1st off I wouldn't be shocked to hear a No DQ rule been announced just before the match however HHH will still be banned for using the Sledgehammer

It will got about 20-25 mins have various run ins from both The McMahons and Simply Priceless

at the end HHH will be just about to win when Steph will somehow turn on him and give the win to Orton

Star Rating ***1/2-maybe ****



http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/3883682/9525672

OK the build up to this sucks the storyline behind it sucks God knows why Big Show is there only reason IMO is to get him on the WM card and to take the fall so Edge and Cena aren't pinned at WM
Oh Edge will take this one

Star Rating * maybe just maybe **

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/3883682/9473426

Match of the night quite possibly match of the year

Build up had been freaking great


Both HBK and Undertaker always bring their A game to WM and tonight will be no different

It will be a back and forth struggle I can see UT kicking out of a super kick.

In the end see a ref bump another super kick this time UT is out but the ref is still out by the time he comes around or a 2nd ref comes down UT has recovered HBK will be either trying to wake the ref or waiting for the 2nd one to come down he will turn around and bam into a Tombstone or Gogoplata/Hell gate/Devils Triangle/Whatever they call it this week

Star Rating *****


http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/3883682/9556392
Money in the Bank Ladder Match

I'm unsure who will win this one as I just can't see any of them holding world gold

Mark Henry should never of been allowed near this match he takes stars of it just be been there

Lets go down the contestants 1 by 1

C.M Punk a great wrestler but he won't win it twice in a row

Chrisitan again a great wrestler but vince doesn't think much to him

Kofi way to green to be given this if he gets it I can see fans turning on him

Finley as much as I think the guy is great he's to old and his time has long past for a world title push

Kane deserves it but we know WWE will never push it that far

Shelton could be but I have heard he doesn't want to be world champ he's happy at US level

Mark Henry er it's Mark Henry nuff said

MVP was on a losing steak but now is US champ so maybe

still unsure but I think MVP will just take it but I don't think he will take the title

side note I@m hoping all this Vince hates Chrisitan is Keyfabe and he will take it and then the belt

Star rating ***1/2


http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/3883682/9566536
Extreme Rules Match

Not a bad build up here I think it will be a decent match a few big spots I see Matt taking it just because if it's a ingoing feud Matt as the heel will get the 1st win

Str Ratin ***


http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/3883682/9592030
WWE Tag Team Champions vs. World Tag Team Champions (Unified Tag Team Championship Match)

The build up has been Ok I guess but I'm fed up of seeing this match week after week for the past 2 moths

I guess Miz and Morrison will win as WWE are higher on them as a team

Star rating ** maybe ***


http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/3883682/9601282
Build up what build up

I can't see this been that good JBL sucks and lets be honest Rey is not what he was he's still good but not OMG Great like he used to be

JBL will win then announce his retirement with Tazz gone I could even see him doing the SD announcing for the night

star rating **
http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/3883682/9652330



Chris Jericho vs. "Rowdy" Roddy Piper, Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat & Jimmy "Superfly" Snuka with Ric Flair in The Legends Corner
Build up has been Ok I guess

Without trying to sound disrespectful and I much as I do respect The Legends truth is their best days past them by over 15 years ago

It will be on OK maybe even good match but not great

I see Jericho getting the 1st 2 falls which will be Snuka and Piper then Flai and Rourke will get involved I see Rourke hitting Jericho leading to Steamboat getting the win (as he was put into the HOF last night)

Star rating ***1/2

http://www.wwe.com/content/media/images/3883682/9525898
25-Diva Battle Royal

Er it will suck and Trish will win

Star Rating -** at least

Rich
04-06-2009, 03:00 AM
Steamboat stole the show! He literally took Y2J to pro-wrestling school 101. The Undertaker's Wrestlemania winning streak is intact 17-0. I saw all I needed to see.

nottidelterrore
04-06-2009, 05:38 AM
After reading the results, I'm glad I didn't even bother wasting my time with Wrestlemania this year.

I'm happy to hear that Matt beat Jeff & that Punk won Money in the Bank.

Kat
04-06-2009, 05:46 AM
I am going to say it, Wrestle-Mania fucking sucked IMHO. The Diva's thing was a bigger joke, than it originally was, no introductions or anything... JBL vs Rey was incredibly stupid, HBK vs 'Taker was pretty damn good, Orton vs HHH could have been better, Money in the Bank was OK but I can't see ANY of those guys holding the world title deserving or not, the rest of Mania wasn't that great either. Edge/Show/Cena was a dumb choice for a match in the first place and incredibly stupid to begin with. Worst Mania Ever.

DedKid
04-06-2009, 06:06 AM
Rich - - couldn't agree more about Steamboat! Of all the old timers that still pop up in the ring, man, he's in better shape & hits the classic spots better than any of them! :D

All in all, it wasn't a total letdown, and it wasn't as predictable as I had thought it might be. I was shocked there weren't any major twists.

Blow for blow....

1) MITB - It had all the token high spots & a couple real cool "holy shit" moments. Kudos for letting Kofi shine several times throughout. I'm satisfied with Punk getting the win, but surprised because I was expecting MVP to take it. Christian would've been my preference, but whatever. Punk made history as the first two-time winner, so that was pretty cool. Grade: A -

2) Diva Battle Royal - What a waste of time. Santino was funny. Grade: D

3) JBL vs Rey Mysterio - Bradshaw made history alright! Would've been nice if it were an actual match, but hey, Rey snagging the title in 21 seconds was pretty sweet. Grade: B+, for novelty merit.

4) Y2J vs Legends - Solid match that didn't play out the way I was expecting. The Dragon, as I already said, was more than impressive! Jericho actually winning it though was a huge letdown in what should have been a feel-good tribute to the Hall of Famers. The whole thing with Mickey Rourke was just pointless. A bit of posing, sparring, then one punch & that was the payoff to all the build this one had? Bullshit. A run-in by Austin should've been mandatory. Y'know, something like, "You've still got one more Hall of Famer to put down". At least just a "boom, stomped, stunned, beer bash". Anyway, I doubt this story's finished yet, but hopefully Rourke, on the other hand, is. Grade: B, it loses points for Y2J winning & the lip service it paid to Rourke.

5) Taker vs HBK - Yup, they stole the show alright! That was a given. Going at it for almost 40 minutes, man, it seemed shorter. 'Taker should've had a more elaborate entrance, at least the Druids, but whatever, this was more wrestling match than show, as it should be. RIP HBK, The Streak's still alive! Grade: A+

6) Hardy vs Hardy - It was good, but could've been more extreme, and it seemed to lack some intensity. Matt should not have gone over, but this story probably won't wrap up for a while. Grade: B

7) Cena vs Edge vs Big Show - I didn't pay much attention, but when I did, it wasn't such a stinker after all. Cena almost FU'ing the two of them at once was pretty sweet. And c'mon, is anyone really surprised he got the title back? Grade: B

8) Triple H vs Orton - One of the best damn matches those two have put on. I was hoping for some controversy & a nice swerve (and an Orton victory), but it was pretty damn intense anyway. That RKO right out of the gate was awesome. The beatdown at the end was handled nicely. This shouldn't have been the match to end the show though, but whatever, it was still a good one. Grade: A

And WTF happened to the tag title match?! They make that a dark match, but wasted 20 minutes with Kid Rock & the fucking Divas? Ugh.

I was impressed & surprised by the lack of elaborate flash and backstage vignettes, instead placing more emphasis on the actual matches, they get major points for taking a classy approach over the flashy one. Overall, I'll give the whole event a solid B+.

The Dark Vampire
04-06-2009, 09:16 AM
Well it was er odd I guess whilst I don't think it was the worse WM in history (WM9 and 17 were worse )


But with the exception of the Undertaker vs HBK match witch was a ***** classic nothing else felt like it was WM more just some normal B PPV

The MITB was a lot better than I thought it was going to be as Mark Henry didn't really do much I'm happy Punk won but I can see him losing the match when he cashes it in.

The Divas Battle Royal sucked blew then sucked again I was very annoyed by some aspects of it most of all one of the greatest female wrestlers ever Molly Holly was there and nothing was said only after she got eliminated it was just "Oh Molly was here" BTW I didn't even see Sunny at all
Also why have Santino win ok it could of been worse one of the eye candy bimbos could of won bu why not give it to either a legend (Molly or Victoria) or one of the current female wrestlers

The JBL vs Rey match wasn't good at all but at lest Rey won

The Legends Match I admit man Steamboat still has it I honestly consider Jericho to be one of the best that ever lived not just in WWE but anywhere in the world and Steamboat is right up there with him
I was happy with a Y2J win but thought Steamboat would get it

Undertaker vs HBk again match of the year right there one of the best WM matches ever hell one of the best WWE matches ever that there alone was worth the money

Hardys
I'm happy Matt won as he is by far the better wrestler not a great match but it was good

Cena vs Edge vs Big Show
Was OK I guess nothing really good about it and whilst I think Cena is better than ppl give him credit for and I admit I'm a fan he should not of won that one last night should of been Edge

Orton vs HHH
A good match but not a WM match it would of been a Ok if it was a B PPV match but for the WM main event it kinda sucked nothing special at all happened I didn't even feel that they "hated"each other I didn't even feel they were annoyed by each other it was just like any other random match after all that build up as well we didn't even get Steph appear at all
I wonder if to many ppl worked it out that she was turn

Also Orton should of won this one after all that it makes no sense for HHH to win

Just to add I'm very annoyed that the tag match got bumped down to a dark match especially as they wasted all that time on freaking Kid Rock

Kane Lives
04-06-2009, 09:37 AM
I didn't do too well in my predictions this WM, but oh well. I'm glad Punk got MITB again, and that Rey won the IC Title. I hope JBL really does quit. HBK/Taker sounded like it was really good.

I'm also very glad to hear that Ricky Steamboat can still deliver. If Flair ever does wrestle again, Vince should let him have his match with Steamboat that he wanted a few years back.

Special Killa B
04-06-2009, 05:57 PM
Wait a minute........That was Rey Mysterio that fought JBL? :D:p

Rich
04-06-2009, 06:12 PM
I am hoping for one more Flair vs. Steamboat classic. Steamboat really showed something last night man. He was going off the top rope, flying out of the ring, doing classic mat wrestling and going circles around Jericho. He was putting on a class last night.

The Dark Vampire
04-06-2009, 06:40 PM
- Trish Stratus did not work last night's diva battle royal at Wrestlemania 25. Why? WWE sources are saying because Stratus insisted on winning. Hmmm.
Credit>Gerweck.Net

If that's the case I'm happy she wasn't there I always thought she was very overrated anyway

Special Killa B
04-06-2009, 09:58 PM
They could have at least still had a woman win the battle royal! Santino cross dressing just to be in it was lame and that should look great on his career resume, 2 Time I-C Champion and Miss Wrestlemania

The Dark Vampire
04-06-2009, 10:05 PM
They could have at least still had a woman win the battle royal! Santino cross dressing just to be in it was lame and that should look great on his career resume, 2 Time I-C Champion and Miss Wrestlemania

I agree if it was a legend I'd go with Molly current any of the ones who are trained but I admit I'd love to see Katie Lea get a push

PS
I'll be honest and say as much as I hated Santina winning (looks a lot like her brother ) but I'd take that over one of the useless eye candy bimbos winning it

Furious Styles
04-07-2009, 11:47 AM
I'm surprised The Undertaker didn't die from that botched dive over the top rope...Wow!

The Dark Vampire
04-07-2009, 11:56 AM
I'm surprised The Undertaker didn't die from that botched dive over the top rope...Wow!

I thought he was hurt then

I thought Undertaker may lose but by accident more with one of the close calls he would mistime the kick out.

But overall words can't describe how good that match was I'd of happily paid for WM just for that it was worth the money on it's own.

This match proves that both Undertaker and HBK are 2 of the very best

Boiler Room Brawler
04-07-2009, 09:57 PM
1. I think that this had the best MITB yet, but I think that it still should recede to 6 workers instead of 8.

2. Kid Rock was lipsynching.

3. The Diva Battle Royal was about what I expected - blah. Except that I am a Santino Marella mark. :D

4. JBL/Mysterio was funny, but not nearly as funny as Chavo/Kane last year.
It seems all but announced that JBL will replace Tazz and I'm cool with that since I like him on the mic.

5. Jeff/Matt was decent but I could not help but not care.

6. Jericho/Piper, Snuka, and Steamboat w/Flair and Rourke was entertaining but most especially to watch Steamboat go!
There we were, my friends and I, chaning for Steamboat, "You still got it!" *Clap, clap, clap-clap-clap*

7. Taker/HBK was just as epic as I imagined it would be. Maybe a little more.

8. Cena/Edge/Show was pretty good, could have been longer, and should have been the closer.

9. HHH/Orton was decent except for the finish. I would argue that the general events of Raw the next night should have happened for the match finish.
Ref bump, Orton gets the advantage on HHH, the McMahons run in and help HHH, Priceless runs in and helps Orton stomp the McMahons and HHH, Batista comes in, pauses to look at HHH and Orton, two of his former Evolution teammates and two men whom he has past beef with, and sides with HHH and destroys Priceless, leaving HHH to finish Orton off.

But I would have Orton win the match for a couple of reasons:

1) He would have finally gone over HHH in a singles match and which HHH would not have wrestled previously that night.

2) This would recycle the WM 2000 formula: push the heel until the fans hate them (too bad Orton gets face pops), then have them go over at the main event of the biggest show of the year to increase buys for Backlash for the blowoff.

But that's my opinion.


Overall, I give this Wrestlemania a 8.0/10.
It was decent, but not mindblowing except for MITB and Taker/HBK.

The Dark Vampire
04-07-2009, 10:07 PM
4. JBL/Mysterio was funny, but not nearly as funny as Chavo/Kane last year.
It seems all but announced that JBL will replace Tazz and I'm cool with that since I like him on the mic.


JBL has announced he is not doing it and he is retired from any on camera work

Boiler Room Brawler
04-07-2009, 10:13 PM
Dangblastit!

Oh well, hopefully this will all lead to elevation of the IC title again.

pa®tci
04-09-2009, 09:32 AM
Wrestle Mania from one match, haha! Damn, I wish Shawn to have had won this one, but whatever. Great match. I see Meltzer has given it ****3/4 (or ****99999/100000 or whatever). I say he stick it up his ass. :D
And something else: the guys that were saying HBK can't throw chops, go say it to Taker's chest after this one. http://www.destruction.de/phpBB2/images/smiles/new_vampv.gif


+ Nipple Squasher - the biggest DICK the wrestling world has ever seen.

The Dark Vampire
04-09-2009, 09:37 AM
Wrestle Mania from one match, haha! Damn, I wish Shawn to have had won this one, but whatever..

TBH it makes no sense for HBK to take the streak as he is retiring next year plus he doesn't need it.

I don't really want to see it ever ended but if it is it should be to a young up and comer who could use it for years and who needs that one last thing to put them to the top

pa®tci
04-09-2009, 09:41 AM
I am just an HBK mark, come on. :p I say, it would've be even funnier if Undertaker's career ended without victory over the Heartbreak Kid. :D

The Dark Vampire
04-09-2009, 10:00 AM
I am just an HBK mark, come on. :p I say, it would've be even funnier if Undertaker's career ended without victory over the Heartbreak Kid. :D

I like HBK myself in fact Undertaker is only one of a very few PPL I like more (the other inc Jericho and CM Punk)