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TheShowstoppa
01-14-2009, 09:00 AM
Ahhh... A7X as they're commonly abreviated to, it probably one of my favorite bands of the last few years. I was reading through 4 years of Blogs tonight and found this nice little ditty from 2006 when I first heard the album City of Evil. Now, I was just a month past 21 and didn't understand this music as well as I do now, but for my first FULL review of anything, I have to say I liked this a lot.

To start out, let me just say that, even though I love rock music, I'm a fan of all types of music. However, there are only so many times that you can come across a CD that will grab ahold of you and grip you so tightly through its words that you HAVE to make it acknowledged. So is the case with the CD I'm about to review.

This CD starts out with a bang with their first song titled "Beast and the Harlot" and ends on a note that makes you think with "M.I.A." While most people who have listened to AS in the last few years may argue that it's nothing like it should be, or that their older music is so much better, let me explain something: This band has evolved over the past decade. In the beginning they were mostly metal, however, the screaming that many fans loved for so many years finally caught up with lead singer M. Shadows leaving his voice badly damaged. You can hear it in certain songs too, but it does not take away from the amazing vocal performance he gives.

To give the fans a taste of what they loved in the past, "Beast..." starts out with a low grumble, but after that, it's PURE music and sheer genius. While many I have talked to disagree with me because they love "Beast..." I happen to think that it's quite frankly the worst song on the album, but that's not meaning it's not good either, because it is. However, it's not the song you would imagine after you listen to the rest of the album.

Clocking in at almost an hour and 15 minutes, this CD will leave you in a wake. The second song, "Burn it Down" is mostly compiled of excellent guitar picking and hard drum beats. Something you would definately expect from a former hard metal band. Once again, no growling or screaming. This is what makes the CD superior to their first 2 albums is that they take it in a whole new direction and write music with meaning. I'll give examples of this later on.

"Blinded in Chains" starts out on a heavy drum beat, but leaves your neck aching afterward from the awesome guitar line that follows. This song is clearly an anti-government track. It definately proclaims their stance on how they view things going right now. " And we're at it again; I turn around another fucking war, man. I don't know where to begin but I'll start with the radical leaders. Their steps we're followin'." One of the best tracks to pay attention to in light of our current government situation.

"Bat Country" was the first single from this album, however I think it was probably the worst choice for a single. However, given the circumstance that mostly every song on this CD runs anywhere in between 5 - 8 minutes, it was the best choice in that sense. The song is definately a rock song that has a steady chorus and follows a quite simple pattern, however, half way through, they throw a stop sign in front of you and slow things down. This song is what lead me to this CD, and I love it for that reason. The chorus is catchy and the words are just as catchy. If you haven't heard anything by AS, I would highly recommend this as one of the two songs you listen to before listening to anything else.

Trashed and Scattered - What more is there to say? AMAZING song. The chours is worth enough for the song. "I won't be the victim but the first to cast a stone. Sedated night to the bar room fights as metropolis takes its toll. And don't you try to stop me it's a place you'll never know. Don't try to judge or take shots at me, I'll never let you seize control. Play your game your better walk away cause your integrity don't mean shit. Crawl on me you fucking parasite, and I'm going to take you out." The guitar riff througout the first part of the chorus is enough to leave you breathless. It's again not the best song on the disc, but I believe it to be one of the better.

We've finally come to a song where all I can say is good things about. The 6th song on the disc, "Seize the Day," is probably one of the top 2 on the entire album. To me, it's a song of growing old and finding loss in the ones you love leaving you. "Seize the day or die regretting the time lost. It's empty and cold without you here, too many people to ache over. Trials in life, questions of us exsisting here, don't wanna die alone without you there, please tell me what we have is real." This song starts off slow and follows through the whole way. It's a ballad that shows just how far along this band has come since their debut release. M. Shadows' voice follows such a line throughout the song, and the occasional piano in there makes this song so perfect. This is another song I would recommend to anyone who has not heard anything from this album because it's amazing from beginning to end. If it's not the song I say it is, prove me wrong, but I will still feel you're sorely mistaken.

"Sidewinder" may start off like it's going to kick your ass, but let me tell you, it does exactly that. (Thought I would say it pusses out, didn't ya?) This is just an all around fun song. It clocks in at seven minutes because of all the instumental music we hear. Those of you who appreciate music itself will appreciate this song along with the next two for the fact of where they range in musical talent and ability. This is the beginning of a 3 song medley that is just as good from beginning as it is to end.

"The Wicked End" is a song that most AS fans are familiar with because of the nature of the lyrics. However, as many would view this as a satanic song, I would view it as quite the opposite. It's quite frankly a song to tell the direction that man is taking himself. The end of the world, typical bible stuff, just more cool sounding. I would definately say that this song is good, but then finishes off GREAT with nothing but a smooth melody at the end: Mostly instrumental. This isn't your typical guitar either. It sounds of a true rock-orchestra collaberation... which leads into the next song after a strong finish by Shadows and company.

"Strength of the World" picks up exactly where "Wicked..." left off. The acoustic guitar chimes in and slows everything down... and again with the orchestra. The beginning leaves you so relaxed and soothed. Quite frankly, it's the best intro for any of the songs because it does so. Once it ends, the guitar riffs start again. While you would imagine this to be a hard song about other things (what I'm not so sure) it winds up being a song about loss and retribution and revenge. If you can't the meaning, pick up the lyrics and read along... believe me when I say you'll find the bearings. It also leaves off on a strong instrumental finish.

"Betrayed" starts off rocking and does exactly that throughout the song. "Passion in my eyes. I lived it everyday, but how could you go throw it all away? In my dreams it's me and you. It's there I saw it all come true. As time went by, faith in you grew, so one thing's left for me to do (Finish You)." I believe it to be a song about someone wronged by a role model. (Father anyone?) It definately hits a connection point with me and for that I love it.

Finally, we have reached the end of the one and a quarter hour. The final song of this disc titled "M.I.A." is exactly what you might assume it to be: A song about war. The song starts out oh so slow, but you know the direction has turned when the amazing guitar solo hits its first chord. This is a riff that sends chills through your body and makes you tear up. (Not that the song doesn't do that enough as is.) Definately an anti-war band, they shove everything in your face throughout the 8:46 the song plays. "Fight for honor, fight for your life, pray to god our son is right. Even though we won, I still may lose until I make it home to you. I see our mothers filled with tears. Grew up so fast where did those years go? Memories won't let you cry unless I don't return home tonight." Writing those words down makes even me stop and think because everything about it is so true and the song makes such an impact that by the time the final slowdown hits, you're still thinking. After hearing these words so soothingly and beautifully sang, you hang your head low and remember the real reason why we're in Iraq. It's definately not for freedom or patriotism. If you can figure it out... let me exclaim the last words of the song for you: "Walk the city lonely, memories that haunt are passing by. A Murderer walks your street tonight. Forgive me for my crimes; don't forget that I was so young fought so scared in the name of God and Country..." Nuff Said.

There are so many albums released every year, but only one comes around so often that makes you stop and go, "Whoa." Only twice have I encountered albums like that. The first was Linkin Park's debut "Hybrid Theory." As much as I proclaim them to be my favorite band, I have to say that musically and lyrically, "City of Evil" is by far surperior. I can never recall a time when I have ever tried to force something on to someone, but believe me when I say it, Avenged Sevenfold has done something spectacular with this album, and I patiently await their next release hoping it is just as superior as this album was.




Reading that makes me want to go review another one of their shining albums that was released (I believe) last year: The White Album (or Self-titled, whichever you prefer). I might do that soon.

jasonlives13
01-14-2009, 10:09 AM
Not a fan of A7X at all, I just see too many bands like this nowadays

TheShowstoppa
01-14-2009, 11:18 AM
I would like to believe they are one of the originals of their musical type since they've been around for well over a decade now.

CanadianFonzie
01-19-2009, 02:35 AM
I do love Avenged Sevenfold, though no bands sound like them now, I do somewhat think they lack originality in the sense that Matt Shadows makes it clear he had the same vocal coach as Axl Rose

but besides that, I love them, not so much the first 2 albums, but City of Evil, Avenged Sevenfold and Diamonds in the Rough are all great albums with very few disappointing songs. I always have a great time listening to them.

I saw them live a month ago, but the venue was crap and the sound quality wasn't good so unfortunatelly because of the venue I didn't enjoy the concert so much...also the fact that it was one of those venues with no chairs andI'm short also has to do with my dissapointment, though Shadows did point at me at the end of the show:D that was pretty cool lol

HiCkMaN!
01-20-2009, 12:00 AM
i like 2 songs from this band, apart from that not for me, altho i got dragged to 1 of their gigs and i must say even tho i dont like em much they put on a great live show.

CanadianFonzie
01-20-2009, 03:08 AM
you can't share what those 2 songs are hickman? lol

HiCkMaN!
01-20-2009, 01:09 PM
Critical Acclaim and Beast and the Harlot

TheShowstoppa
01-20-2009, 01:55 PM
AHHHHHH!

Sorry... I don't like "Beast..." very much. I always found it to be one of their weaker songs from City of Evil.

Sean [The Wildcard]
01-20-2009, 06:20 PM
A7X really doesn't do anything...at all...for me.

TheShowstoppa
01-20-2009, 09:05 PM
C'mon, you gotta respect, as a horror fan, a song and video about a guy getting rejected and then cutting a bitch up and then fucking the dead corpse. That's fucking Priceless. (Plus I just really enjoy the song.)

CanadianFonzie
01-20-2009, 11:11 PM
I enjoy the song, but that video was far too fucked up for me

and I quite enjoy Beast And The Harlot, though my favourite song is definitelly Critical Acclaim, I couldn't determine my favourite song off City of Evil, it depends on what I really feel like listening to on that album,right now I'd have to say Blinded In Chains, but my favorutei song off Diamonds In The Rough is definitelly Dancing Dead

HiCkMaN!
01-20-2009, 11:12 PM
C'mon, you gotta respect, as a horror fan, a song and video about a guy getting rejected and then cutting a bitch up and then fucking the dead corpse. That's fucking Priceless. (Plus I just really enjoy the song.)

wich video is that??

TheShowstoppa
01-21-2009, 12:59 AM
That video would be titled "A Little Piece of Heaven." It's a great video and song.

Fonz... dude... you're at a forum that's dedicated to a murder who slams women in sleeping bags into a tree... And that video was too fucked up for you? You must not have liked Dead Alive where the dead Preist fucks the dead Nun. And to think... that guy went on to win an Acadamy Award for best director and best picture nearly 20 years later o_O

CanadianFonzie
01-21-2009, 01:49 AM
well the video was cartoon while Friday the 13th isn't, that's the main difference to your comparison, when I say fucked up, it's not the story of the video...which is fucked up, but not in a way that I mind, it's all the random cartoon shit that happens in the video that wouldn't happen in Friday the 13th

HiCkMaN!
01-24-2009, 02:26 AM
i watched the A Little Piece of Heaven video, didint care for the song much but the video was pretty cool

CanadianFonzie
01-24-2009, 02:33 AM
you really have to like the band to like the song, lol

HiCkMaN!
01-24-2009, 02:35 AM
ye i gess lol did u ever see the 5 mintue cartoon they made? its pretty funny yet a big ego trip for the band lol

CanadianFonzie
01-24-2009, 02:49 AM
yes I saw that with my friends when one of their sisters bought the enhanced cd and we were watching all the video footage...there was actually some awesome stuff on that cd, it showed the making of every song, which I enjoyed...but one thing is for sure, they did aloooot of experimenting on that album

but I found the 5 minute cartoon stupid

HiCkMaN!
01-24-2009, 02:53 AM
thats awsome dude, i love watching stuff about bands making an album or any behind the scenes stuff lol i thourght the cartoon was funny lol

CanadianFonzie
01-24-2009, 03:08 AM
my friends thought it was funny, of course they could have just been afraid to admit that their favoruite band did something stupid...but I doubt that, usually I'm alone on opinions, lol

zach82
01-24-2009, 06:25 AM
Not my favorite band in the world, but I have a couple of thier albums. What impresses me most is the drumming, the guy is good and he just fits the rest of the band perfectly.

CanadianFonzie
01-24-2009, 03:37 PM
oh yah, The Rev is fucking amazing, of all the members, he's truly the best at what he does in the band...not the best singer though, lol

Jus-X
05-05-2010, 07:36 PM
I went to High School with Sinister Gates

CanadianFonzie
05-05-2010, 11:48 PM
I completely forgot there was a thread for A7X, I'm SO looking forward to the Rockstar Uproar festival this summer! I can't wait!!!

and as for you Justyn, you sir may stop showing off now!

Special Killa B
08-19-2010, 08:27 PM
I picked up Nightmare, A7X's new CD and I was quite impressed. I can't believe I waited this long to get it. I originally had City of Evil and their self titled CD so I've never been heavy into A7X but this new CD might make me check out some of the other CD's i'm missing.

CanadianFonzie
08-20-2010, 01:32 AM
I love Nightmare SO much, can't wait to see A7X live in less than a week! City of Evil is still my favourite album by them though

my favourite song off Nightmare though is Save Me, may be their longest song ever recorded by them but it's 10 minutes of pure greatness, I also like hearing the late great Rev's voice on Fiction

God of Thunder
08-22-2010, 07:42 AM
Now, normally I don't like pissing on others' parades, but... with all due respect,

BOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CanadianFonzie
09-21-2010, 10:57 PM
I completely forgot to say how amazing the concert was, I wish they headlined though, they shared the same amount of time as Disturbed but I wish I could have heard a 2 hour A7X set

Nancy Thompson
12-12-2010, 09:24 AM
i just turn into their fan when i run across their song "Nightmare" that someone made a music video of with using the ANOES series. And after i heard the song i check their other songs out. My fav is Nightmare & Welcome to the family but i like their other songs too.

Its funny that i started to like bands like them from people using their music in fan videos on youtube lol

TheShowstoppa
12-12-2010, 10:07 AM
Nancy - I implore you to pick up their self titled (white) album and City of Evil. They surpass anything Nightmare could ever be.

I'm going to the January 30th concert in Evansville, IN. Why? BECAUSE I'M REVIEWING THE SHOW!!!!!!!! BOOOOOOO YAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And, oh yeah - I'm getting in touch with their publicists to see about an interview before the show. *coughs* I RULE *coughs*

Nancy Thompson
12-12-2010, 08:23 PM
okay gotta see if i can find it :)

Jus-X
07-22-2011, 06:18 AM
I went to High School with Sinister Gates

Finally found my yearbook. I was going through my parents' garage today looking for something else, and finally I found my senior yearbook... so I thought I'd post a pic of Synyster Gates before he was a rock star...

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p239/justyn_25/2011-07-21215836-1.jpg

Hell, I didn't even know he was a musician in high school. I remember thus guy being more of a Jock type.

CanadianFonzie
07-22-2011, 04:06 PM
HAHA NO WAY! he looks COMPLETELY different now, that's hysterical!

Jus-X
07-22-2011, 04:58 PM
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p239/justyn_25/Synyster-Gates-avenged-sevenfold-23371490-467-700.jpg

His face looks the same if you get rid of the makeup and piercings.

CanadianFonzie
07-22-2011, 11:07 PM
he looks so much more awesome now though, wonder if he had those tattoos under the suit he was wearing haha

Jus-X
07-23-2011, 01:33 AM
Good question. I don't know.

CanadianFonzie
07-23-2011, 04:52 PM
what good are you Jus! :p :)

I'm seeing them again September 14th, that show is sure to be LEGENDARY, them, Three Days Grace, Bullet For My Valentine, Black Tide, Art of Dying...then 3 other bands that are whatever lol, sure to kick last years Uproar Festival's ass!

Jus-X
07-23-2011, 05:47 PM
what good are you Jus! :p :)


Well tats aren't common in High School. Most people their senior years are 17 going on 18 and in California you have to be 18 and older to get a tat, let alone entire sleeves of tats.

Three Days Grace, now there's an awesome band. Art of Dying, I've heard some of their stuff and they're good too. The other bands you mentioned I haven't heard of. There's a chance I've heard them on the radio and not known who they were...

But dude, if you like Three Days Grace and Art of Dying, I think you'll like this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbO1PBjRw20) band.

CanadianFonzie
07-24-2011, 03:54 AM
what makes you think I don't know Skillet :p I saw them live last June, WHAT A SHOW!

as for the other bands, um BFMV are fairly popular as are Seether (who I didn't mention by name cause I'm not a fan but they will be there), Black Tide are sort of popular in Canada cause they had a song on NHL 09...I think it was 09, saw them open for BFMV but was stuck in a mosh pit so I couldn't enjoy their show so much

but Jus, you are an A7X fan I hope lol

Jus-X
07-26-2011, 12:47 AM
what makes you think I don't know Skillet :p I saw them live last June, WHAT A SHOW!
Well not too many people know them b/c they started out as a Christian Band and most people don't like Christian music, so they don't give their albums from the last decade a chance, and there's where they rocked (http://www.f13community.com/board/showthread.php?t=6091) the most. It's a shame that Ben Kessinga left, I hope anything new they produce is up to par with his licks.

but Jus, you are an A7X fan I hope lol

I wouldn't say "fan." They have good stuff and they have bad stuff. The bands I would say that I am truely a fan of are one's that very seldom record a bad song.

CanadianFonzie
07-26-2011, 04:25 AM
Skillet are still a Christian rock band lol, the concert I went to was so religious I was scared haha

Jus-X
07-26-2011, 06:37 PM
They are Christian artists but I wouldn't consider them a Christian band. There first 3 albums they sung about and to Jesus and God, you don't hear that in their last few albums from Collide to Awake.

Now that doesn't mean they don't play at Christian concerts... personally I'm going to go see them with Linkin Park and Slipknot in October.

CanadianFonzie
07-26-2011, 10:38 PM
hah yah they actually played with Avenged Sevenfold and bands like that before

when I saw them, after the show, 3 of the friends I went with decided to sneak backstage to the buses, the rest of us didn't follow cause we didn't want to get kicked out of the park...so those uf us who stayed behind were walking to our car and got a text from my buddy, it was a picture of my buddy and John Cooper :| they met the whole band except for Korey cause she was having menstral pains I think, and they chilled with the guitarist for a bit and met other bands like Thousand Foot Krutch...I'm still pissed

Jus-X
07-27-2011, 03:59 PM
Here's (http://www.f13community.com/board/showthread.php?t=6091) the Skillet thread that no one ever goes into, maybe we can continue the Skillet discussion there since this is the A7X thread

CanadianFonzie
07-28-2011, 01:30 AM
OR we can talk about Skillet here and Avenged Sevenfold there

Jus-X
07-28-2011, 03:47 PM
OR we can talk about Skillet here and Avenged Sevenfold there

lol The Fonz