NFL '07-'08 Season

[nickmeece]

This off season went by so fast...preseason starts SOON. I know Colts play Cowboys like August 9 or something...

Colts prime for a REPEAT!

[BlakeTyner]

Yeah, the offseason has gone by pretty fast. I'm always glad when I can finally watch some football.

I've been rooting for the Colts since Manning signed, and so I was happy to see them win the big game...I'd almost resigned myself to believing Manning would be the Dan Marino of his generation. Now, you have to understand that even when I'm rooting for the Colts, when they play the Cowboys my loyalty is always to Dallas. I'm no fair weather Cowboys fan - I've stuck with them through the bad times as well as the good. I was pleased when Dallas beat Indy last season.

Now that the Colts have won, I think my 2nd team to root for will be New Orleans, for the usual reasons plus one: a classmate of mine plays for them. I wouldn't be pissed if Indy repeated, though. I just hope Dallas uses this year to see if Tony Romo is all he's cracked up to be - we've just not had anybody in that position since Aikman retired. This might be another rebuilding year, with the sacrifices they made in the draft, but I'd like to see them at least get into the playoffs.

~Blake

[Zombie]

This is going to be an interesting year for the Bills. I still can't believe we got rid of McGahee but oh well, what's done is done and lets see if that's going to help them.

[Special Killa B]

I'm siked to see what my Browns do this year! Brady Quinn as our backup and who knows he might win the starting job, though I won't count out Charlie Frye just yet. And I'm interested to see how well Jamal Lewis plays with us, considering all those years he litterly ran over the Browns I'm hoping he does the same for us.

[Killa Pimp]

This is the most boring time of the year to me.
I absolutely cannot stand to watch baseball on TV.
I can watch it live, but its like watching grass grow during a drought when its televised.

The fantasy leagues are starting to crank up at work.
Pre - season is almost upon us.

All will be right with the world soon!:D

Go Raiders!!!!:lmao:
Been a fan since I was 5, I can't give them up yet.

[TheShowstoppa]

We'll be starting our fantasy league at work in august. I can't wait! Personally, with all the defensive losses, I think it's going to be hard defensively for the Colts to make a repeat. However, I want my fuckin' dynasty! It's been announced here in Indiana that Tarik Glenn will make his official retirement announcement sometime by the end of this week.

[nickmeece]

Being from Plainfield, IN., myself, I was also saddened by the loss of Tarik Glenn. But we went most of the season last year w/out him and that turned out decent, lol.

[Uncle Hoody]

Sewage floods Browns' locker room
Old pipes cause 160,000-gallon toilet tank to overflow
Posted: Wednesday July 25, 2007 6:07PM; Updated: Wednesday July 25, 2007 6:16PM
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CLEVELAND (AP) -- The Browns plan to have their locker room rebuilt and their stadium ready for Cleveland's first preseason game after a waterfall containing thousands of gallons of water and some sewage flooded the eight-year-old structure recently.

Old pipes in Cleveland's water system are largely to blame, city and stadium officials said Wednesday. Iron deposits flaked off the inside of the pipes and clogged toilet valves, causing a 160,000-gallon holding tank -- necessary for when thousands of fans go to the restrooms at halftime -- to overflow.
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"Picture a waterfall," said Carl Meyer, Browns vice president of security and logistics.

That water was combined with some sewage from the plumbing system, Meyer said. The Browns have hired a lab to take air samples to make sure the areas are safe before the stadium is reopened.

The overflow left 6 inches of water in the locker rooms and lower service level of the stadium, including food service areas.

Browns spokesman Bill Bonsiewicz, speaking over the roar of an enormous machine removing humidity from the locker room area, reiterated that the stadium will be ready for the Browns' first preseason game Aug. 11 against the Kansas City Chiefs.

Officials initially believed an 8-inch water pipe located under the team shop -- the main supply of water to the 72,000-seat stadium -- caused the problem.

To fix the problem, Cleveland director of utilities Julius Ciaccia said the city will flush the pipes, scrape out the iron deposits and line the inside of the pipes with cement, as has been done with other pipes in the city that date to before the 1950s. The city also will give the stadium a second connection into the water system.

Those repairs and improvements will cost the city about $120,000 and be done during a three-week span in late October when the Browns have an off week and play an away game.

"I'm real happy we don't have to tear up any internal parts of the stadium," Ciaccia said.

No dollar estimate was given on removing the standing water and replacing plumbing and interior fixtures. In the Browns' spacious locker room, the carpet, wood lockers and ceiling all had to be replaced. The only thing left in the barren room were televisions mounted on the walls.

Browns chief administrative officer Lew Merletti said it was too soon to determine how much would be covered by insurance.

Copyright 2007 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

[bearholic247]

At least what happen at the Browns stadium didn't happen during a football game.

I didn't know there were so many Colts fans here.

Anyways long time Chicago Bears fan here. I've been ready for this season since February and of course hoping for a different outcome this season. Although last year was great ride.

[Special Killa B]

Yeah I heard about them working on Cleveland Browns Stadium and that sucks that happened.

[The Dream Master]

Sewage floods Browns' locker room

Well, it can't be any worse than the stench that's been emanating from that stadium since the Browns have returned to the field, right?

Anyway, I hope the Panthers can return to form. Seeing as how no one will pick them after a disappointing season last year, they'll probably come out and have another good year. I might hit up training camp sometime next week (I've gone for the past four years and it's an awesome experience).

[Spade]

This off season went by so fast...preseason starts SOON. I know Colts play Cowboys like August 9 or something...

Colts prime for a REPEAT!

Hell yeah the Colts are going to repeat.

Yeah, the offseason has gone by pretty fast. I'm always glad when I can finally watch some football.

I've been rooting for the Colts since Manning signed, and so I was happy to see them win the big game...I'd almost resigned myself to believing Manning would be the Dan Marino of his generation. Now, you have to understand that even when I'm rooting for the Colts, when they play the Cowboys my loyalty is always to Dallas. I'm no fair weather Cowboys fan - I've stuck with them through the bad times as well as the good. I was pleased when Dallas beat Indy last season.


It looked as if Peyton would always be thrown into the Marino talk ( great qb but no championship ), I'm glad he finally won one.

Now it's time for # 2.

Take care and God bless.

Spade

[Special Killa B]

So Brady Quinn finally signed with my Brownies for 5 years and 20 million dollars. Hope your worth it kid!

[Killa Pimp]

So Brady Quinn finally signed with my Brownies for 5 years and 20 million dollars. Hope your worth it kid!

He will probably turn out better than "Ron Mexico"!!!!:D

[Utellme]

Whats some predictions on the 12 playoff teams

NFC
1.Dallas
2.New Orleans
3.Chicago
4.S.F 49ers
5.Washington
6.Detroit


AFC
1.New England
2.Indianapolis
3.Baltimore
4.San Diego
5.Tennessee
6.N.Y Jets

[Special Killa B]

NFC
1. Chicago
2. New Orleans
3. Dallas
4. Detroit
5. Washington
6. Giants

AFC
1. Indy
2. N.E.
3. San Diego
4. Jets
5. Cincinnati
6. Cleveland (I praying my Brownies finish 9-7 with the Wildcard Spot)

[BlakeTyner]

Hell yeah the Colts are going to repeat.



It looked as if Peyton would always be thrown into the Marino talk ( great qb but no championship ), I'm glad he finally won one.

Now it's time for # 2.

Take care and God bless.

Spade


It certainly wouldn't disappoint me if the Colts repeat.

About Marino, I really wish he'd have gotten a ring. I think I'd be willing to trade one of the Dallas Superbowl victories if it meant that Dan would get one.

~Blake

[The Dream Master]

NFC:
Dallas
Chicago
Carolina
Seattle
New Orleans
San Francisco

AFC:
New England
Indianapolis
Pittsburgh
San Diego
Denver
Tennessee

Not really any great predictions there, but those are my gut instincts right there.

[Kat]

I'd like to see Chicago take it this year but I doubt they will. I am going to take a stab in the dark and say NO vs the Jets in the Superbowl

[The Dream Master]

Aw, hell, I forgot all about the Saints. See, my Carolina pick is a homer pick because they're my favorite team. I guess I'd replace Minnesota with the Saints in my original prediction because they have a huge question at quaterback despite having an awesome ground game and some good receivers.

[Ron]

I'm so happy that football season is upon us..GO PATS!

[Zombie]

Buffalo was doing good against Atlanta, but they STILL don't know how to put teams away and WIN a game they're leading in! That's probably why I have such a hard time with Buffalo in Madden online. I usually start off great and will be leading like 14-0 then all of a sudden they can't do SHIT and I fumble, throw interceptions and never score again.

They need to learn how to keep playing even if they have the lead and it's almost over. Damn them! It's going to be a looooong season me thinks for Buffalo!

[NW77]

Aw, hell, I forgot all about the Saints. See, my Carolina pick is a homer pick because they're my favorite team. I guess I'd replace Minnesota with the Saints in my original prediction because they have a huge question at quaterback despite having an awesome ground game and some good receivers.

DM, that awesome to see another Panthers fan here beside myself. I hope they go all the way this season. You live in North Carolina too like me? :D

[Killa Pimp]

DM, that awesome to see another Panthers fan here beside myself. I hope they go all the way this season. You live in North Carolina too like me? :D


I'm from Carolina myself NW. My favorite team is the Raiders though (long story) But I still pull for the home team on the side.

[The Dream Master]

I'm from the other Carolina, but not too far from NC (about an hour away).

I'm not getting my hopes up too much about this season because the Panthers seem to find a way to let us all down when we're expecting too much. I think they should make the playoffs at least, though, seeing as how they play in the second-rate NFC.

[nickmeece]

NFL Opening Kickoff this Thursday...Saints at Colts...

Predicitions?

Colts: 31
Saints: 21

[Killa Pimp]

As long as Reggie Bush gets all three scores for the Saints, I'm happy.

He's on one of my fantasy teams!:D

[Spade]

NFL Opening Kickoff this Thursday...Saints at Colts...

Predicitions?

Colts: 31
Saints: 21

I say

Colts: 27
Saints: 24

[BlakeTyner]

Killa,

I hope you didn't have Bush as a starter!

Man, the Colts had a hellova second half, didn't they? It looked like the Saints were going to come out strong up until the half. Brees just did not have a good night at all. Those picks stung. These are two teams that I like, so it's kind of tough for me to pick a favorite. Suffice it to say that I would have been fine either way, but now that Manning has a ring I suppose I have a soft spot for the Saints. One of my high school classmates plays for them, and they had a great year last season. So, I guess when I'm not watching the Cowboys, I'll root for the Saints.

~Blake

[nickmeece]

B-L-O-W-O-U-T

Even being an Indy native, I didn't see this coming.

Colts: 41
Saints: 10

Wow. Just wow. Glad to see the defense step up in the regualr season for once.

[Spade]

B-L-O-W-O-U-T

Even being an Indy native, I didn't see this coming.

Colts: 41
Saints: 10

Wow. Just wow. Glad to see the defense step up in the regualr season for once.

Yeah I guess I gave the Saints too much credit. I in no way expected a blow out.

Being from Indy the Colts are my favorite team, but the Saints are my second. Drew Brees is a hell of a quarterback. I've been watching his career since college. Plus Reggie Bush and Colston are good. So to see the way our defense handled the Saints... man that was impressive.

[Killa Pimp]

Killa,

I hope you didn't have Bush as a starter!

~Blake

Hell yeah!

I could kick my own a$$ for doing that.
Not to worry though - My opponent had Brees.

I'm up 3-1 :meh:

Its not a money league, so I am taking risks like having T.O. & Moss as my wide outs /Brady (love that Tandem) and Alexander, Norwood and Stallworth

Go figure.

Its going to be an interesting fantasy season.

My money league should do better: I have Gore, Portis, Rudi Johnson, Moss, Andre johnson, Hines ward, Donald driver and Bulger

[nickmeece]

Yeah I guess I gave the Saints too much credit. I in no way expected a blow out.

Being from Indy the Colts are my favorite team, but the Saints are my second. Drew Brees is a hell of a quarterback. I've been watching his career since college. Plus Reggie Bush and Colston are good. So to see the way our defense handled the Saints... man that was impressive.

What part of Indy are you from?

Plainfield myself.

[Spade]

What part of Indy are you from?

Plainfield myself.

Indianapolis

[NW77]

Man, Panthers hasn't won an opener in 4 yrs. Good to see the Offense found their groove compare to last season & the preseason the other week. If they keep it & no major injuries, they will be in the Playoffs & hopefully another chance in the Superbowl.

[The Dream Master]

The Panthers looked damn good today, NW77. I thought it'd be a close game and they would have to pull it out in the end, but I was surprised that they won it going away. Hopefully Delhomme will stay consistent for the entire season and the defense keeps stopping the run like they did today. If they do those two things, I expect big things from this team.

[BlakeTyner]

Well, can I just say that I think Dallas has finally found a Quarterback?

Tony Romo - Horse Trailer Player of the Game

15/24
345 Passing Yards
4 TD's
1 INT
1 Rushing TD

He had about 23-25 average yards per pass, which is the best in a Cowboys QB since Staubach.

They didn't show his rating at the end of the game, but just before he threw that pick, it was 147, in the 4th with 7 minutes to play, so I doubt it went down very much.

Cowboys offense looked good, and the defensive line looked pretty good. I'm a little concerned about the secondary, but honestly I think this is the best Dallas has looked since the days of The Triplets. It's good to have the momentum of a win in the opener.

Note to Giants fans: I've not paid as much attention to Eli Manning as his brother, but you guys have a damn fine Quarterback. Y'all's secondary needs some work as well, and the injuries aren't helping, but if they can correct that and get a running game going now that Tiki's retired, I think they'll be a fine football team.

Excellent game.

Cowboys 45
Giants 35

~Blake

[Killa Pimp]

Looks like Eli's out for a month.
Tom Coughlin might as well call it a day now.
I know its not his fault, but they way the Giants fans are: He'll be run out of NY before the end of the season.

Dallas would have looked better if it would have been 45 -10.
They have a lot of quality teams on their schedule and with Glenn out, I don't think they are suited for shootout's every week.

[Spade]

The Giants are going to be in trouble with Eli out for a month. I don't think their backup can carry the load.

[Jason's Storm]

Well the Vikings are off to a good start. The D is looking back in good form, with 1st round pick of last year doing a great job. Offense was alittle shaky at first, but they got going late.

~JS

[BlakeTyner]

I said I was gonna do it...

http://imgbolt.com/public/21398/09-12-07_0025.jpg

~Blake

[Spade]

Just a little youtube vid about the Pats cheating.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EU1O-hGxgg

[BlakeTyner]

Well, I'm a happy camper this week. Cowboys start 2-0 for the first time since '99, and score 35 or more points in consecutive games for the first time since the late '80s. Last week it was all about the offense, and this week the defense (minus some key players) made a stand, recording 5 takeaways.

They still need to shore up the secondary, and Henry played a little soft most of the game, but that pick he got late in the game just about made up for it. Romo just keeps impressing me, showing discipline, pocket presence, the ability to scramble or bootleg, etc. No picks. This guy is going places.

~Blake

[The Dream Master]

Well, the Panthers lost to the Texans today, and I'm not surprised. They've been pulling this shit for 4 years. Then again, it's possible that the Texans are that good.

[Spade]

Well, I'm a happy camper this week. Cowboys start 2-0 for the first time since '99, and score 35 or more points in consecutive games for the first time since the late '80s. Last week it was all about the offense, and this week the defense (minus some key players) made a stand, recording 5 takeaways.

They still need to shore up the secondary, and Henry played a little soft most of the game, but that pick he got late in the game just about made up for it. Romo just keeps impressing me, showing discipline, pocket presence, the ability to scramble or bootleg, etc. No picks. This guy is going places.

~Blake

Yeah it seems Romo is getting better. I think today they said he said his favorite qb is Favre... that's a good qb to follow if you want to be in the league long, but let's hope he doesn't try to force as many passes as Favre does. It'd be nice to see Romo have a very long career and not so many interceptions. Right now he's showing good discipline and not forcing passes. I'd like to see him stay that way.

Oh and he better stay good or T.O. will throw him under a bus like he did every other qb. Just messing with Blake :p.

[BlakeTyner]

Yeah it seems Romo is getting better. I think today they said he said his favorite qb is Favre... that's a good qb to follow if you want to be in the league long, but let's hope he doesn't try to force as many passes as Favre does. It'd be nice to see Romo have a very long career and not so many interceptions. Right now he's showing good discipline and not forcing passes. I'd like to see him stay that way.

Oh and he better stay good or T.O. will throw him under a bus like he did every other qb. Just messing with Blake :p.

Yeah, he grew up in Wisconsin and says that seeing Favre play was what made him want to play. And you're right, Favre's a great role model to have. Not a lot of flash to him, just out-and-out dedication. And what I like about both of them is that they're all smiles on the field - you can tell they just both love to play the game.

I was a little unsure about the decision to sign T.O. He's not an easy player to like, and like you say, he's often not been a very good team mate. But you can't deny his talent and athleticism, and with the injuries to Dallas's receivers, it's nice to have him as a kind of backbone to the wide outs. Combine him with Jason Witten and that side of the field is on fire.

I have to give the props to Parcells; he put this team together, and now Wade Phillips is reaping the results.

JS - if you're still reading this thread, what the crap happened to the Vikes today? They kept playing highlights during the Dallas game, and it didn't look like anybody wanted to win that one. That's got to be frustrating.

~Blake

[NW77]

Well, the Panthers lost to the Texans today, and I'm not surprised. They've been pulling this shit for 4 years. Then again, it's possible that the Texans are that good.

Yeah. I think they need to get rid of Tgro & get Del Rio back if Jax get rid of him next season or not. I think Del Rio was a better coordinator than Tgro. If they can't get Del Rio back, I hope next season they will find a good Defensive coordinator like they did with getting the Offense one in Davidson. But I ain't worry for now about the loss. They aren't perfect.

[The Dream Master]

The defense has me worried more than anything. The offense seems fine, but Schaub was shredding the secondary today, and Bulger was having some good success last week during the first half. Of course, it doesn't help if you turn the ball over a ton, too, so I guess the onus goes to the offense a bit today, too. Like you said, it's only one loss, and I never expected the team to go undefeated, so you just have to hope they regroup for next week.

[girlychaos]

Patriots: 38
Chargers: 14

I'm only getting started into this whole American football thing, and I'm a Cowboys fan (couldn't have it any other way...lol). But I gotta say wow to the Pats! Brady (:shy:), Moss, Welker...gosh...the Chargers couldn't handle it. They did try to stage a 4th quarter comeback, but it just didn't happen.

Anyone else watched the game?

[Kat]

I have always been a Bears fan but I have my 3 "backups" that I will always cheer for unless they play against Chicago.

Seahawks
Pats
Cowboys

Also, the 3 teams that I am not a big fan of

Rams
Falcons
Colts

[girlychaos]

Hey, B... it's Cowboys at Bears next Sunday...lol

Predictions? :D

[Spade]

Yeah, he grew up in Wisconsin and says that seeing Favre play was what made him want to play. And you're right, Favre's a great role model to have. Not a lot of flash to him, just out-and-out dedication. And what I like about both of them is that they're all smiles on the field - you can tell they just both love to play the game.

I was a little unsure about the decision to sign T.O. He's not an easy player to like, and like you say, he's often not been a very good team mate. But you can't deny his talent and athleticism, and with the injuries to Dallas's receivers, it's nice to have him as a kind of backbone to the wide outs. Combine him with Jason Witten and that side of the field is on fire.


IMO Jason Witten is a underrated Tight End. I'd love to have him on the Colts. He'd make a great teamate for Dallas Clark when we use twin tight end plays. Then we'd have Peyton Manning, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Joseph Addai, Dallas Clark, and Jason Witten. Man that would rule. I guess I'm just too greedy.

But yeah Witten is one of the top tight ends in the league IMO.

T.O. has a hell of a lot of talent. And the Cowboys are lucky to have him, especially with Glenn out.

Patriots: 38
Chargers: 14

I'm only getting started into this whole American football thing, and I'm a Cowboys fan (couldn't do it any other way...lol). But I gotta say wow to the Pats! Brady (:shy:), Moss, Welker...gosh...the Chargers couldn't handle it. They did try to stage a 4th quarter comeback, but it just didn't happen.

Anyone else watched the game?

I watched it. I don't know if I was more impressed with the Pats (which I was impressed) or more disappointed in the Chargers. The Pats got some talent on their team, Brady's a good qb and I've always been a fan of Moss. But man I can't help, but feel sorry for L.T.. It's too bad he doesn't have a wide receiver or a qb that good on his team.



I have always been a Bears fan but I have my 3 "backups" that I will always cheer for unless they play against Chicago.

Seahawks
Pats
Cowboys

Also, the 3 teams that I am not a big fan of

Rams
Falcons
Colts

:shame: Don't diss the Colts :D. Just kidding. Of the seven teams you names (including the Bears) I like Colts, Pats (yes I know it's weird a Colts fan liking the Pats, but I think Brady and Moss are good), Cowboys, and Rams. I don't really care either way for the Seahawks (don't dislike them, don't like them). But I am no fan of the Falcons or the Bears. I hate to say that about the Bears, but I just don't like them. I wish they would've kept Thomas Jones.

Back in the day the Bears had some players I really liked :

- Walter Payton (my 2nd favorite running back of all time, closely behind Barry Sanders)
- Mike Singletary (one of the best MLB's of all time, I preferred him over Urlacher, but Urlacher's good too)
- The Fridge (not a bad defensive player and could get you out of trouble by running the ball on 3rd and 1 or at the goal line)
- Jim McMahon (quite a character)

But now I just can't see myself liking anybody on the team that much. I don't know maybe it's all stems from my feeling that Grossman is one of the worst qbs I've seen in a while.

[girlychaos]

I watched it. I don't know if I was more impressed with the Pats (which I was impressed) or more disappointed in the Chargers. The Pats got some talent on their team, Brady's a good qb and I've always been a fan of Moss.

I totally get what you mean...that's exactly how I feel. Yes, Brady is awesome and Moss is a great WR...no doubt about that.


But I am no fan of the Falcons or the Bears. I hate to say that about the Bears, but I just don't like them.

That means we're all gonna be " Go Cowboys!" next Sunday, right? :)

[Spade]

Yep I'll be rooting for the Cowboys.

[BlakeTyner]

That means we're all gonna be " Go Cowboys!" next Sunday, right? :)

All of us except for Rama. She's got the Bears since they're playing the Boys. That's basically the way I've been about the Colts and Saints - I root for them so long as they're not playing Dallas.

The Bears are having a so-so start this year, and the Cowboys have had a great one, but it's a road game so you never can tell. Grossman's playing is rocky right now; of their 20 points yesterday, only 6 came from a passing touchdown. And, really, beating the Chiefs isn't all that big an accomplishment. If I had to predict, I'd say Cowboys by 17.

~Blake

[Killa Pimp]

If I had to predict, I'd say Cowboys by 17.

~Blake

I don't know about that.
The cowboy's let the Giants run up 30 something and the horrible Miami offense score also.

I think it'll be closer. Even if Thomas Jones is gone, that defense doesn't look like it used to under the big Tuna. And the bears defense is stout also. I think it'll be less than 7 , but the boys still win because they have just a little more offense than the bears defense can handle.

[The Dream Master]

The thing is, I'd say that both the Giants and Dolphin's offenses are better than Chicago's, if only because they don't have Rex Grossman. :X

Anyway, I'm going to say Dallas prevails by three.

Any predictions for tonight's game? I'm going to say Eagles by at least two scores. Mind you, that's not what I hope happens, but what I think will happen, unfortunately.

[BlakeTyner]

I don't know about that.
The cowboy's let the Giants run up 30 something and the horrible Miami offense score also.


True, and while I agree that the Cowboys defense needs some work (or healthy starters) I think we'll start to see some more aggressive playing by Demarcus Ware and Henry. Ware is explosive off the line, and can put pressure in Grossman's face. Grossman's just not that good, and if Dallas shows up at all, I think they can force him into some bad throws.

Plus, he threw only one TD and 2 picks this weekend, and he'll be up against a Dallas defense that recorded 5 defensive takeaways. Of my 17 points, I'm thinking at least 6 of them (and maybe 12) will be defensive scores. Of course, I am being optimistic, and can certainly see the potential for a closer game. Basically I'm making the call based on Chicago's offense and Dallas's defense this weekend, plus I don't think the homefield advantage will help the Bears much at this point in the season. If the game were in November, I'd reconsider.

Tonight's game? Well, it's 2 hated Dallas rivals, so I'm loathe to root for either of them, lol. I think if the Skins can get Portis some yards, they stand a chance - they need to do all they can to take pressure off their QB. I think McNabb is still an NFL threat, and offense to offense, I figure it'll be closely matched, with the Eagles attacking the sky and the Skins attacking the ground.

Of course, this was the week of the underdogs...

I'll take the Eagles by 6.

~Blake

[bearholic247]

It’s nice to see some NFL discussion here.

I have to stand up as a Bears fan and defend my team.

First of all, Rex Grossman aside, how can you not like Brian Urlacher and the Bears defense? There’s a reason Brian Urlacher’s jerseys are among the most popular in the NFL.

The Bears offense might be off to a slow start but the Bears defense is playing incredible. Week 1 they held last year’s league MVP LaDainian Tomlinson to 25 yards. Then yesterday they held Larry Johnson, who had the 2nd most rushing yards last year, to 55 yards. To contain 2 great runningbacks like that in consecutive weeks speaks volumes about the Bears rush defense. Week 1 the Chargers scored on a trick play and because Bears turnovers handed the Chargers great field position.

The Bears defense will give Tony Romo more of a challenge than the Giants or Dolphins defense did.

I think even with Rex Grossman at quarterback the Bears can score on the Cowboys defense. The Cowboys defense is struggling without Terrance Newman and Greg Ellis. The 0-2 Giants scored 35 points and the 0-2 Dolphins scored 20 points.

I highly doubt anybody is going to beat the Bears by 17 points in a nationally televised game in Chicago. It’s much more likely that the 1st team to score 17 points will win the game.

[The Dream Master]

I'll give the Bears their due on defense; however, with that offense (particularly Grossman), I can't go with them in a game where they're going up against what looks to be a capable offense in the Cowboys. While I do think the Bears D will give the Cowboys some fits, I think, in the end, they'll do just enough to prevail. Besides that, I'm going with the Cowboys because

http://www1.whdh.com/images/news_articles/389x205/061017_dennis_green.jpg

the Bears are who we thought they were!

[Utellme]

Whats scary is Dallas is scoring like they are without Terry Glenn.

On defense i think once they get Terrance Newman back that will help alot.

But anyway 27 Dallas Chicago 17

[girlychaos]

Okay...I'm watching the game now and I really don't care either way. I think the Eagles are gonna get this one, but I gotta say the game doesn't look that great to me. Maybe it's just me though.

Speaking of "great"...I was just wondering what a mess it will be like for the Dolphins in December (I know...I'm too far ahead...lol). Let me just put it this way:
Patriots
Home
Snow

How about that?

[The Dream Master]

You know, the Dolphins have had a history of knocking off teams late in the season, so it's not at all out of the realm of possibility. In fact, they did it to the Pats two years ago. Then again, that game was at home.

[girlychaos]

Brett, you know I'm only getting started into this American football thing, but I've been doing some "research", so to speak. :)

Pats are great this season (so far, I know)...Dolphins are okay, and yeah...I know it could change. What I'm saying is that it seems it's going to be interesting anyway, especially because we're gonna have Miami playing in New England (December btw ;)). All I know is that I want to see how that's gonna turn out. :D

[Spade]

It’s nice to see some NFL discussion here.

I have to stand up as a Bears fan and defend my team.

First of all, Rex Grossman aside, how can you not like Brian Urlacher and the Bears defense? There’s a reason Brian Urlacher’s jerseys are among the most popular in the NFL.

The Bears offense might be off to a slow start but the Bears defense is playing incredible. Week 1 they held last year’s league MVP LaDainian Tomlinson to 25 yards. Then yesterday they held Larry Johnson, who had the 2nd most rushing yards last year, to 55 yards. To contain 2 great runningbacks like that in consecutive weeks speaks volumes about the Bears rush defense. Week 1 the Chargers scored on a trick play and because Bears turnovers handed the Chargers great field position.

The Bears defense will give Tony Romo more of a challenge than the Giants or Dolphins defense did.

The Bears defense is alright. I like 3 players on the defense :

- Urlacher (he's good, but maybe a bit overrated, people act like he's the greatest of all time)
- Tommie Harris (underrated player in my opinion)
- Lance Briggs (good player)

Other than those players I really don't care for anybody else on their defense.

They'll give Dallas some problems, but their offense is so horrid I can't see them winning.

One bright spot for the Bears that people here might be overlooking is that Devin Hester could score a TD at anytime via return. But sticking him as a WR was a stupid move.

I think even with Rex Grossman at quarterback the Bears can score on the Cowboys defense. The Cowboys defense is struggling without Terrance Newman and Greg Ellis. The 0-2 Giants scored 35 points and the 0-2 Dolphins scored 20 points.


Yeah the Giants and the Dolphins might have scored that much, but I see no way that the Bears offense can score that much. I say two offensive td's tops.

Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to diss your team. And I respect the fact that your taking up for them. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

[Jason's Storm]

Lions got lucky :side:

~JS

[The Dream Master]

Brett, you know I'm only getting started into this American football thing, but I've been doing some "research", so to speak. :)

Pats are great this season (so far, I know)...Dolphins are okay, and yeah...I know it could change. What I'm saying is that it seems it's going to be interesting anyway, especially because we're gonna have Miami playing in New England (December btw ;)). All I know is that I want to see how that's gonna turn out. :D

Well, as tonight's game is proving, the number one thing to remember with football is that you just never know. :lol:

[girlychaos]

True. :lol:

I still think the Patriots are gonna leave the Dolphins wondering though. I guess we'll just see what happens a few months from now. :D

[BlakeTyner]

Of course, this was the week of the underdogs...


And so it continued, lol.

~Blake

[NW77]

Well, as tonight's game is proving, the number one thing to remember with football is that you just never know. :lol:

Any Given Sunday. ;)

[On a Pale Horse]

Man, my Eagles are SUCKING this year. 0-2 :( Maybe they will go on a 6 game winning streak like last year.

[Utellme]

Blake that avatar is sweet

[Myers, Michael]

<-----I think that mine is sweeter.:D

[NW77]

Blake that avatar is sweet

There is nothing sweet about the Cowgirls. They're the Yankees of NFL. :p

[BlakeTyner]

Just a little news...

Dallas has signed former Chicago Bear defensive tackle Tank Johnson.

He's still suspended for the next six games, but this will give the defense some depth going down the stretch, when it's been desperately needed.

~Blake

ADDED:

In order to open a spot for Johnson, the Cowboys released CB Nate Jones, the dime cornerback during the first 2 games, which suggests that starting Corner Terence Newman could be ready to play this weekend against the Bears.

Tank must be on the roster for 24 hours before he can be moved to the Reserve/Suspended list, at which time the Cowboys could re-sign Jones or another player, as Johnson wouldn't then count toward the 53-man roster. He is not allowed to work out with the team until November 5, unless Goodell decides to reduce the suspension to 6 games.

[Spade]

I don't know if signing Tank Johnson was such a good idea. If he can stay out of trouble he will be a good addition, but your taking a risk.

For a while there were some rumors about the Colts signing him and I really didn't like that idea.

[BlakeTyner]

Yeah, I'm not crazy about "troublemakers" or anything, but listening to the Cowboys radio show today, they were talking about how he got canned with his last little bout of trouble, even though it turns out he wasn't actually guilty.

But, the upshot is that we got Tank for bargain-basement prices: he doesn't get paid until he plays, and even then Jerry's only out about $200,000. No big signing bonus or anything like that. Dallas has plenty of cap room, so it's not like this is a big risk. Really, as far as the football field is concerned, we probably got a steal of a deal.

It's kind of like how I felt when T.O. got signed. I'm not a big fan of his, but as long as he behaves himself in Dallas, I'm willing to overlook his bad behavior elsewhere. Jerry Jones isn't going to put up with any kind of shit.

It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

~Blake

[Spade]

Yeah money wise that is a real steal. And if he stays out of trouble, which in all likelihood he will, he'll be a great addition to the defense.

Yeah I don't see Jerry Jones putting up with any troublemakers. So he probably knows what he's doing.

Being a Colts fan I just know that one little mistake can cost you. The Colts avoided two huge mistakes when they drafted Peyton Manning instead of Ryan Leaf and drafted Edgerrin James instead of Ricky Williams. If they would've went the way the majority of people thought they would the decision would've ruined our teams for years.

But what would the Charges look like with Peyton? Isn't that where Leaf wound up?

Ahh football what ifs... got to love em.

[BlakeTyner]

Hehe, just to prove that I'm not a fair weather fan...

http://imgbolt.com/public/23295/dallasfan.jpg

~Blake

[On a Pale Horse]

Damn, my Eagles finally woke up.... after scoring only 1 total TD in the first 2 games, they score ** 8 ** in todays game. Damn.

[BlakeTyner]

The goddamn officials are killing Dallas tonight. There's been at least 3 horseshit calls, and one blatant fuckup at the half. 3 to 3 right now, with Dallas's defense finally stepping up and playing. Chicago's defense is playing very good football, but I think Romo can pick it apart a bit more in the second half. It doesn't look like my 17 point prediction is going to come true, but whatever happens, I'm happy with the Cowboys.

The officials on the other hand...:mad:

~Blake

[The Dream Master]

T.O. is absolutely wearing the Bears out right now.

[Spade]

Colts won today.

McNabb and the Eagles were on fire today.

Cowboys in the lead :D right now. While I agree the officials are really messing up in this game, I have to admit the Chicago defense is doing better than I expected.

[girlychaos]

OMG! The game is nerve-wracking! :nervous:

Will someone tell me what's Crayton doing there? He blew a potential TD and he did scr*w up again...okay, I get it, he's hurt, right? But still.

On the other hand, Romo is awesome! Owens is pretty great too. The Cowboys are not disappointing me at all...quite the opposite actually.

[BlakeTyner]

Ladies and gentlemen, the Dallas Cowboys are serious.


Dallas by 17


Ahem?!

~Blake

Added:

I should have said 24, but admit it...y'all thought I was crazy with that 17!

Oh Rama...where for art thou? :)

[Spade]

Cowboys are looking good. Romo and T.O. work great together. It's fun watching a QB and a WR who click. Romo/T.O., Manning/Harrison, Manning/Wayne. and Brady/Moss are all fun to watch when they're on the top of their game. Moss and Brady played good today.

[BlakeTyner]

Yeah, we've got the Pats in three weeks, and I'm not looking forward to that game. But tonight went a long way as a measuring stick.

~Blake

[Kat]

I shall post the photo as soon as I get my digi cam back. Even though I am a hardcore Bears fan, I will admit those calls were bullshit and it was a great game.

[BlakeTyner]

http://imgbolt.com/public/24845/Me%20004.jpg

That is all.

~Blake

[On a Pale Horse]

I hope the Eagles light the Boys up this year, and TO gets shut out ! :D

[Uncle Hoody]

I hope the Eagles light the Boys up this year, and TO gets shut out ! :D


What a surprise, Philly puts up 56 points and OAPH pops in to talk smack :) you know I'm playing bro.

I'm getting ready for the Saints game. Hopefully they can get some hometown energy and light up the Flaming Thumbtacks.

[BlakeTyner]

I'm getting ready for the Saints game. Hopefully they can get some hometown energy and light up the Flaming Thumbtacks.

Yeah, I'm rooting for them, too. I've been trying to pep up my Saints supporting friends (and myself, as I like them too) by repeating that Dallas went 0-2 to start the '95 season and still managed to win the Super Bowl. So there's hope. The team has a lot of talent, they just need to take advantage of it.

~Blake

[The Dream Master]

Damn, I never thought Dallas would lay into Chicago like that in their own backyard.

And I wish I would have come here earlier with my prediction that the Titans will win tonight because it's looking good right now.

[Jason's Storm]

Talking about officials, the Vikings got fucking ROBBED by the officials. On a halfback option (Moore to the TE) the official said the ball hit the ground, but he couldn't see it because the view rolled away from that official. They threw the red flag, but it wasn't overturned, even though it was clear the ball DIDN'T touch the ground. The Vikes would of won the game.

~JS

[The Dream Master]

Holy fuck, a Kerry Collins sighting.

[M.I.A.]

Looks like the Bears are gonna try and salvage the season by benching Grossman and letting Griese start. They should have done that last year.I'm not even sure if it will help much. The absence of Thomas Jones has created a huge void in that offense.

[BlakeTyner]

Yeah, I saw that on the NFL Network today. It's obvious that something has to change, but like Madden said, this solution is just a band-aid. But, the journey of a thousand miles begins with but a step.

In other NFL news, Saints runner Deuce McAllister is out for the season with a torn ACL. Not like it matters much. And Cowboys fans have officially anointed Tony Romo, and are calling for Jerry to give him a new contract, post haste.

~Blake

[Spade]

Looks like the Bears are gonna try and salvage the season by benching Grossman and letting Griese start. They should have done that last year.I'm not even sure if it will help much. The absence of Thomas Jones has created a huge void in that offense.

Yeah the loss of Jones is really hurting the Bears. They should've kept him and got rid of Benson.

In other NFL news, Saints runner Deuce McAllister is out for the season with a torn ACL. Not like it matters much. And Cowboys fans have officially anointed Tony Romo, and are calling for Jerry to give him a new contract, post haste.

~Blake

I am in no way a Deuce McAllister fan (I think he is average at best), but he took some of the pressure off of Bush and could at least run up the middle when needed. But this team needs so much more help than just Deuce so his injury really doesn't matter.

If Romo doesn't get a new multi-year/big money contract, then Jerry is an idiot.

[girlychaos]

If Romo doesn't get a new multi-year/big money contract, then Jerry is an idiot.


Exactly. But I'm pretty sure Romo is getting it, I mean...look at the guy! Jerry wouldn't risk it for the world, well...at least that's what I think (and hope for), cause it wouldn't make any sense otherwise.

[BlakeTyner]

I've not watched enough of Deuce to really know either way, but we're seeing a lot more of this 2-tailback playing in the NFL today, and it seems to be working (at least, when they're playing well.) Surfing around the Cowboys fan blogs, I've noticed a lot of people calling for the Boys to start Marion Barber instead of Julius Jones, because Barber has more yards-per-carry and touchdowns. But what I don't think they understand is that by the time Barber comes in, the offense has already tired out the defense, and Barber's able to capitalize on it by being fresh and ready off the bench. I say don't fix what ain't broke.

What irks me about the Saints is that they have an immense level of talent, but this year they don't seem inspired. Sean Payton is not calling the plays very aggressively, and last year he was really the story of the year coach. Don't get me wrong, I'm not ready to cast New Orleans away yet, but I don't think this season will be their year.

Vis a vis Romo - I don't think Jerry will let him get away. Though his contract is up after this year, if all else fails they could slap the Franchise tag on him (GC, I don't think we talked about this, but each team can make one player a "Franchise player" which keeps them on the team.) I seriously don't think it will come to that, though. We have plenty of room under the salary cap, and it's obvious that Romo is the real deal. The Cowboys have kind of played musical chairs at the position since Aikman retired, and I think now they're comfortable enough in saying that Tony Romo is the future of the Dallas Cowboys. Every week that goes by is more power in Tony's favor. I don't expect he'll get Peyton Manning money (IIRC, the Colts are paying him $14 million annually) but it wouldn't surprise me if he got Drew Brees money.

This week we've got the battered Rams @ Texas Stadium. I would say this game will be a gimme, but you really can't say that in the NFL. Even terrible teams are made up of some of the best talent from college ball. If I had to make a guess, I'd say Cowboys 30, Rams 10.

Another game to watch this week will be the Vikes and Pack. I don't think I asked JS where they're playing, but I imagine it'll be a good game. The Vikes got some terrible calls last week (seriously, I hope some of these refs get demoted to back judges) and what can I say about the Packers? Favre is on-fire this year, and besides Dallas, look to be the team to beat in the NFC. I told JS that I'd root for Minnesota, even though I really do like Favre. Not really a fan of Green Bay, but you have to appreciate a talent and dedication like his. A giant frickin' shark could maul his arms off Holy Grail style and he'd still be out on the field, throwing passes with his teeth. Prediction: Packers by 7 (sorry Hooper, I'm still rooting for the Vikes, though.)

~Blake

Added:

Brett, I haven't had a chance to watch the Panthers play, yet. How're they looking?

[Jason's Storm]

They're playing at the dome and they usually are a little worse at the Metrodome.
Packers:ballshot: :D

~JS

[The Dream Master]

Brett, I haven't had a chance to watch the Panthers play, yet. How're they looking?

Like the Panthers. :lol:

They looked awesome the first week on the road against St. Louis (offense was clicking, the defense stepped up in the second half), but came home and lost an atrocious game against the Texans; then again, they haven't won a home opener in like five years, so maybe it's some kind of hex. They did beat Atlanta on the road this week, but they actually made Joey Harrington look good. :eek: Also, the offense got the benefit of Deangelo Hall's mental breakdown (he was penalized three times for over 50 yards) on one of their scoring drives. Still, a win's a win, I guess.

That said, I'm not completely sold on this team yet; I'd like to believe they'll step up and be more consistent (especially on defense--they allowed way too many third-and-long conversions. The talent is definately there, especially on offense; so far, the defense has been the question mark, which is a strange thing to say about Carolina.

Anyway, this week's game against the Bucs is already a huge game, as both teams are resting atop a bad division (both Atlanta and N.O. are 0-3), so the winner can take a commanding lead over those two teams.

[BlakeTyner]

Like the Panthers. :lol:



I hear you, sir. I've spent the last decade waiting for this season, and it sucks to be in that position, year after year, thinking "okay, this is a rebuilding year."

~Blake

[The Dream Master]

See, the thing is, the Panthers by all means should have been in the playoffs for the past four years. There's been no major losses on either side of the ball, and the core talent has always been there. It just doesn't make sense that at team would make the Super Bowl and NFC Championship game, but fail to make the playoffs the following years in both cases. Granted, Steve Smith was out for most of the season following the Super Bowl, but I still think they were good enough to make the playoffs (and indeed, finished a game short). I'm worried that the Panthers won't take advantage of the consistent talent that's there now and will end up in that endless cycle of rebuilding that Dallas has been in since their glory days (you know, when they actually won playoff games ;)).

[BlakeTyner]

you know, when they actually won playoff games ;)).

Oh, sick burn! ;)



At least now we have the Romo rule...lol

~Blake

[The Dream Master]

I think the Cowboys' future is very bright, indeed. They're solid at pretty much every position. I really don't think there's any doubts about Romo at this point, unless he turns out to be a two-season wonder like Kurt Warner. Don't see that happening, though.

[girlychaos]

Yeah...the Cowboys look awesome this season! Romo is the best! :D

Now...Eagles at Giants tomorrow. Predictions?

[BlakeTyner]

Yeah...the Cowboys look awesome this season! Romo is the best! :D

Now...Eagles at Giants tomorrow. Predictions?

Damn straight, baby.

Predicting the Philly/NY game is tough...until last weekend I'd have taken NY easily. Now I'm not so sure. Wild ass guess: Eagles by 2 scores.

~Blake

[Spade]

Predicting the Philly/NY game is tough...until last weekend I'd have taken NY easily. Now I'm not so sure. Wild ass guess: Eagles by 2 scores.

~Blake

I totally agree, I would've picked NY before last weekend, but now I'm saying :

Eagles : 27
NY : 17

[BlakeTyner]

I'd just like to be the first on the board to congratulate Brett Favre for breaking Dan Marino's all-time TD record today. I don't think we have any Packers fans on the board (at least, nobody's been real vocal about it) and, as a Dallas fan, I simply can't get on board with Green Bay (Ice Bowl memories and whatnot) but you couldn't have it happen to a nicer guy.

Number 4, I salute you, sir.

~Blake

Added:

Ladies and gentlemen, you just witnessed the perfect execution of a 2-minute drill.

I really do think Tony Romo is hiding an S under that jersey.

[Spade]

I'd just like to be the first on the board to congratulate Brett Favre for breaking Dan Marino's all-time TD record today. I don't think we have any Packers fans on the board (at least, nobody's been real vocal about it) and, as a Dallas fan, I simply can't get on board with Green Bay (Ice Bowl memories and whatnot) but you couldn't have it happen to a nicer guy.

Number 4, I salute you, sir.

~Blake


Yeah I guess congratulating Brett is the right thing to do. Never been much of a Packer fan or a Favre fan, but it's a good accomplishment for a good qb. He can keep the record warm until Manning takes it :p.



Added:

Ladies and gentlemen, you just witnessed the perfect execution of a 2-minute drill.

I really do think Tony Romo is hiding an S under that jersey.

:eek: Is the game on? Man I don't even get to watch the Cowboys game that's some bs right there... stupid browns-ravens, lions-bears games.

[BlakeTyner]

:eek: Is the game on? Man I don't even get to watch the Cowboys game that's some bs right there... stupid browns-ravens, lions-bears games.

It's not much of a game, Spade, my friend. Dallas 35, Rams 7 as we start the 4th quarter.

~Blake

[The Dream Master]

Holy fuck, did Dallas just decide to only play for one half this week? :eek:

[BlakeTyner]

4 and 0 for the first time since '95, and I gotta say, man it feels good.

Romo:

21 of 33
339 yards
3 Touchdowns
1 Interception
3 rushes for 24 yards
1 rushing touchdown

The Cowboys ticked 504 yards today, for the first time since Aikman retired.

Looks like the Vikes just scored, cutting Green Bay's lead to 7. I think I called that one GB by 7, didn't I? We shall see.

~Blake

[girlychaos]

Baby, just wow! Romo really is something! Those numbers are unbelievable!
I just have to say...I'm so happy right now! :D

The game wasn't on here, but I heard about it and I knew it had been great. Now, it's more like...amazing!

[The Dream Master]

The Panthers are looking rather awful right now. Ugh.

[Utellme]

Blake you know what is very scary about the Dallas offense ? Is that Terry Glenn is not in the line up yet imagine him T.O , Crayton , Witten Jones ,Barber ,Romo lookout !!!

Does anyone know who has the NFL record is for most points after 4 games ?

And what has happen to the Bears defense ? They should put Kyle Orton back in at QB he did ok 2 years ago.

[BlakeTyner]

Blake you know what is very scary about the Dallas offense ? Is that Terry Glenn is not in the line up yet imagine him T.O , Crayton , Witten Jones ,Barber ,Romo lookout !!!



I know, right? I said the following in a PM to girlychaos (hey, love!):

"Patrick Crayton really repented for his sins last week, and led the team in receiving yards, taking much of the pressure off of T.O. I mean, the Cowboys are doing these things without Terry Glenn, so when he's healthy again (hopefully in time for the Patriots game) it'll just be one more weapon for this offense."


Pretty scary, really. And in another month the defense will get a boost, when Tank becomes eligible to play. In fact, I don't think this Cowboys defense is getting enough credit as it stands - they have consistently gotten better and better each week. I also want to point out the fact that the Boys have seemingly fixed their mistakes - compare the penalties last week to those this week. Every week it just getting better and better; on the Cowboys website this week, the number one answer in a poll of "what is the key to beating the Rams" was "fewer penalties".

~Blake

[The Dream Master]

The Panthers continue to be one of the most frustrating teams I've ever had the displeasure of following. Granted, we were starting David Carr; however, that offense should still be able to manage more than one garbage-time TD. Now we have to go to New Orleans next week, where the Saints will absolutely be fighting for their season, which is the type of team you never want to run into.

[Utellme]

Panthers i think need to get Smith some help so he is not allways double covered. And the Saints will be fighting for there seaon so it will be a tought place to get a win.

Is Glenn expected back for the Patriots game ? I think we will need him for that game both teams could be 5-0 going in.

And i hope for the first time in Dallas history we can shut down Moss hopefully Newman can come up big or double him the whole game if need be.

[The Dream Master]

I thought the Panthers made a mistake when they let Keyshawn Johnson go in the spring, and it's looking to prove true every week now. Don't get me wrong: Keary Colbert and Drew Carter are decent receivers, but they're not going to scare anyone and command enough respect to keep Smith from being double-teamed.

[Utellme]

I know he can be trouble but imagine if Caro would have got Moss. Him and Smith that would of been interesting

[The Dream Master]

That'd be downright scary.

[BlakeTyner]

Is Glenn expected back for the Patriots game ? I think we will need him for that game both teams could be 5-0 going in.



Right now, there's no word. They're still saying they expect him "around the middle of the season," and that's about as specific as it gets. I'd like to see him healthy for New England, but with things going the way they are, there's enough offense there right now. It's still too early to make any predictions, but I can just envision that game being a shootout.

~Blake

[Utellme]

Yeah...the Cowboys look awesome this season! Romo is the best! :D

Now...Eagles at Giants tomorrow. Predictions?
Being a Dallas fan id like to see both of these teams lose but of course that cant happen. But then again seeing how these 2 teams are playing they both look weak.

[The Dream Master]

Damn, the Giants have turned their shit around the past two weeks. Of course, I can't tell if they're actually that good or if Philly was just that bad tonight.

[girlychaos]

Being a Dallas fan id like to see both of these teams lose but of course that cant happen. But then again seeing how these 2 teams are playing they both look weak.


Dallas fan? Way to go! :D

Yeah...the game wasn't all that good anyway.
Eagles: 3
Giants: 16

[Spade]

Colts had a bad first half, but a real good second half.

4 and 0 for the first time since '95, and I gotta say, man it feels good.

Romo:

21 of 33
339 yards
3 Touchdowns
1 Interception
3 rushes for 24 yards
1 rushing touchdown

The Cowboys ticked 504 yards today, for the first time since Aikman retired.

Looks like the Vikes just scored, cutting Green Bay's lead to 7. I think I called that one GB by 7, didn't I? We shall see.

~Blake

Great #'s for Romo.

Baby, just wow! Romo really is something! Those numbers are unbelievable!
I just have to say...I'm so happy right now! :D

The game wasn't on here, but I heard about it and I knew it had been great. Now, it's more like...amazing!

Yeah the game wasn't on here either.

Blake you know what is very scary about the Dallas offense ? Is that Terry Glenn is not in the line up yet imagine him T.O , Crayton , Witten Jones ,Barber ,Romo lookout !!!

Does anyone know who has the NFL record is for most points after 4 games ?

And what has happen to the Bears defense ? They should put Kyle Orton back in at QB he did ok 2 years ago.

Glenn is a very good WR. His comeback should help the team out. But hopefully it ain't subtraction by addition. I mean the team is gelling so good right now, messing with that magic might have consequences.


Pretty scary, really. And in another month the defense will get a boost, when Tank becomes eligible to play. In fact, I don't think this Cowboys defense is getting enough credit as it stands - they have consistently gotten better and better each week. I also want to point out the fact that the Boys have seemingly fixed their mistakes - compare the penalties last week to those this week. Every week it just getting better and better; on the Cowboys website this week, the number one answer in a poll of "what is the key to beating the Rams" was "fewer penalties".

~Blake

I'm still undecided on the defense. Maybe a few more games will turn me around.

Right now, there's no word. They're still saying they expect him "around the middle of the season," and that's about as specific as it gets. I'd like to see him healthy for New England, but with things going the way they are, there's enough offense there right now. It's still too early to make any predictions, but I can just envision that game being a shootout.

~Blake

I totally agree it will be a shootout. The first time I read it I thought you said a shutout and I was like :eek:.

[girlychaos]

I'm really excited about tonight's game.

As you all know, I am a Cowboys fan. But I gotta say I have a soft spot for the Pats...and I don't need to say I'm sure they're gonna rule tonight (well, everything could happen, I'm aware of that...but I'm hoping for the best :D).

So...Patriots at Bengals. Predictions?

[BlakeTyner]

So...Patriots at Bengals. Predictions?

Well, it's tough to predict, Prettyface. I can tell you what to watch for:

If the Bengals are able to put pressure on Brady, and force him into mistakes/hurry ups early on, they stand a chance of upsetting.

If the Pats double-team Chad Johnson, look for Carson Palmer to burn the defense with throws to the one-on-one receiver, the slot man, or the TE. Having Johnson on the field makes the Bengals fairly dynamic, though I'm unconvinced they've got the depth of talent to capitalize.

This *could* be the trap game of the week. I expect fairly high scores for both teams, with the Pats edging it out by a couple of scores. Still, I'd be wary of the upset.

~Blake

[The Dream Master]

Game just started, but I'm going to say Patriots by a couple of scores. Cinci's defense hasn't proven they can stop anyone yet.

[BlakeTyner]

Edited: If anyone is interested in a fantasy league, even though it's already a few weeks into the season, let me know.

~Blake

[girlychaos]

If there are 10 more people interested, there's a league at nfl.com/fantasy called F-13 Community League, and the password is "Jason".

Draft is set for tomorrow, so join quick.

~Blake


Should be fun, Blakey.

So...
Patriots: 34
Bengals: 13

I really liked the game. Brady and Moss are awesome...yet, it's their first season together, I think (please someone correct me if I'm wrong).

[NETRA]

Yeah, it's their first together. :) Too bad for Dante Culpepper (the Raiders new QB) that Moss didn't stay with the Raiders. I'm sure Culpepper would like to get back to his glory days when he and Moss played for the Vikings. Poor Dante hasn't really shined since he and Moss split up. His victory over Miami was probably the last time he'll make highlight reels for a while.

Now it's Brady & Moss... Probably the toughest duo in the NFL. Unfortunately.

Go Falcons! :D Anyone with me? No? Oh. :(

[girlychaos]

Speaking of Vikings...I've been hearing people compare the Pats' defense to theirs (Vikings) back in '98.

Do you guys think it's a fair comparison?

[Utellme]

Maybe they mean Moss looks like the Moss from the 98 season.And mentioned above was it Giants looking that good or Philly that bad i say Philly just being a bad team.Giants are mediocer at best.I just hope Dallas gets by Buffalo Monday night and week 6 should have 2 6-0 teams squaring oss Sun 4:15 N.E AT Dallas which may see 90+ points and 1,000 yards of offense maybe even O.T.

[Utellme]

Heres my picks for this week

Houston
Jacksonville
New England
New Orleans
New York Jets
Seattle
Arizona
Detroit
Tennessee
Indianapolis
San Diego
Baltimore
Chicago
Dallas

[Speck]

Well Carolina squeaked by New Orleans by a field goal. I tell you, Carolna desperately need to get Jake Delhomme rehbailitated if they expect to go anywhere this season.

[The Dream Master]

I'm not even a Packers fan at all, but that loss was painful to watch.

Anyway, the Panthers won today, which is good and all, but we still have no offense. We need Delhomme to return soon, but even he might not provide all the answers.

[Spade]

I thought I'd post this here, since this is where I meant to post it when I accidently posted it in Blakes football thread (sorry about that Blake).

The Colts beat the Bucs 33 - 14. I know people are going to say "But the Bucs didn't have Cadilac", well the Colts didn't have :

- Marvin Harrison (#1 WR)
- Joseph Addai (Starting RB, stats better than Caddy)
- Freddy Keiaho (Starting LB)
- Bob Sanders (Starting FS, plus he's the key to the defense)
- Rob Morris (Starting LB)
- T.J. Rushing (Starting Punt Returner, the guy who replaced him did better)
- Aaron Moorehead (#4 WR)
- Ben Utecht (TE)
- Roy Hall (Rookie WR)

That's 5 starters (2 on offense and 3 on defense) out and they still put a whooping on the Bucs.

Man I feel bad for Matt Leinart. His season is over due to injury.

Take care and God bless.

Spade

[Speck]

Well Delhomme is out for the season because he has to have surgery :(

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-panthers-delhommeout&prov=ap&type=lgns

[Spade]

Yeah that sucks for Panther fans.

[Violent VictiM]

Damn...the Jets is fuckin' up.

[The Dream Master]

Damn, what a wild score just now by the Bills.

(Sorry, Blake. :()

[BlakeTyner]

You have to hand it to the Bills, they're playing an extraordinary game of football tonight. I had a gut feeling that this game wouldn't be the blowout everyone was predicting it to be. But, for all that, it's a 7 point game at the half, with Dallas getting the ball to start the 3rd quarter.

Couple of things...

1) You do not pull Tony Romo out of this game. He's had a rough start, and throwing 4 picks in a half is not the sign of a QB that's doing well right now, but the decision has to be made that he is the Quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys. Troy Aikman threw 4 picks in a game; every player has bad days.

2) The Cowboys' offensive line are losing at the line of scrimmage, and that's unacceptable.

3) Where are the corners? While the 'Boys defense has done a pretty good job tonight, I'm seeing the corners lining up deep, and this Bills QB has already proven that he's fully capable of making plays. As an adjustment, if I'm the Dallas coach at halftime, I'm going to start calling for a little more bump and run to try and throw off the Bills timing. The safeties need to be a little more aggressive - what the defense needs to do is force turnovers. Another adjustment I'd make is to show blitz much more often, even when I fully intend to drop everyone back into coverage. Get the rookie QB flustered and, again, force some turnovers.

4) I could have said this within the first two minutes of the game: Dallas has to establish a running game. So far both defenses have been extra stingy against the rush, but to get anywhere you have to have a threat at the tailback position. I figure that going into the 2nd half, the Bills defense, which is already pretty well decimated by injury, will start to tucker out, and Dallas needs to bring in the fresh RB when that happens - whether it's Jones or Barber.

Final note: tonight's Dallas Cowboys can not beat the New England Patriots next week.

~Blake

[girlychaos]

True, Blakey.

I'm quite impressed with the Bills, I honestly didn't see this coming. But...even though Romo is having a tough time tonight, it doesn't mean it can't change and we all know the Cowboys are known for their "second half comebacks", so...everything can happen.

I gotta say two more things:
- I really think Jason Witten *is* the best TE of the NFC
- I'm glad to see Newman play...it's the perfect time to have him back

[BlakeTyner]

FIVE AND OH! FIVE AND OH!

OH MY GOD!!!!

[girlychaos]

Nick Folk is my hero!!

Gosh! :D

That game just showed me my heart is fine! lol
What a game!

[The Dream Master]

[Ron Simmons]

Damn.

[/Ron Simmons]

Unbelievable game. I think Dallas is the real deal now after dealing with that kind of adversity. Do I think they'll beat New England next week? Not exactly, but I do think they'll hang with them. I do think that Dallas is the class of the NFC, though.

[BlakeTyner]

It all really goes back to point 1 above...you take a guy with what, 15 starts in the NFL, who has basically been the darling of the league all year, who opens the game with 2 throws for 2 interceptions, then goes on to tie a franchise record (Troy Aikman) for picks, and fumbles the ball away.....


....

...

...

to go on that last two-minute drill, score the high-pressure TD, then put the team in position for the game winning field goal.

Tony had a bad day today, but I assure you guys, he's the real deal.

~Blake

Added:

My final point above still stands - tonight's Dallas Cowboys can not beat the New England Patriots next week. Will they be able to hang? I think so. Practice this week at Valley Ranch will be intense, and I feel confident that the 'Boys will be prepared for next week. Whether they're able to pull it out is anyone's guess.

I think that was the best football game I've ever watched. Who'd have thunk lowly little Buffalo, right? Dunno if we have any Bills fans on the board, but if so - your team played a hell of a game tonight.

[FreddyKR]

Anybody see this game tonight? I think the Bills won. Trent Edwards is from my hometown and went to the same highschool I go to now. In fact, I had his mom as a teacher, and his sister teaches at my school. Cool huh? :D

[Zombie]

God damn mother fuckin un-fuckin-believable!!! How in the hell does a team with 6 fuckin turn overs vs 1!!! win the fuckin game still???? Tonights loss hurts so bad I wanna cry lol

I could not believe it... It was our one INT of the game that fucked it up... Then not getting the onside kick.. AND NOT GUARDING THE SIDELINES!!!!! FUCKIN A!!! they should have let them have an open middle cause I'm sure they could have stopped them and caused the clock to go down... We shouldn't have lost that game or even put ourselves in that position to lose it.. Son of a fuckin bitch! Hell, I would have rather got to OT and tried from there, or CAUGHT THE ONSIDE KICK!!! or even better NOT THROW THE INT late in the game... FUCK! SHould have just ran it and settled for a FG cause we would ahve still won.. Awesome D but offense couldn't do SHIT! Then the mistakes we're HUUUGEE mistakes..

I can't believe it and feel like my heart and gut was just ripped out of me. This was ours to win. They handed us the win but we didn't want it and gave it back to them. I say fuck the season and lets get the #1 pick next year... Fuckin a

This loss was worse then being slaughterd.. I would have rather been killed out there then losing like this..

Time to go break some things!!!:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

[Kat]

Jumping Fuck! I caught some of the game in between Raw and driving between two different family members houses for Canadian Thanksgiving and I must say that was an incredible game, no matter what team you like, that was just a good football game.

[BlakeTyner]

Zombs,

Calm down, bro. It's just a game. I was really getting prepared for the loss, and I had to keep telling myself that: it's just a bunch of really rich guys running around after a piece of leather, nothing to get in a fuss about. Like I said above, the Bills played a hell of a game...best game I've ever watched. I know a loss like that hurts, and I'm with you - I don't get how a team that turned the ball over that many times still won, but there it is.

I didn't know anything about Buffalo until tonight, but with the system they're setting up now, I really do think they'll be in contention soon. Probably not this season, but soon. The national audience got a taste of your stellar rookie QB, and that'll help out some. I know it sucks, but there's always next week (and, if that doesn't work out, the next...and next season.)

~Blake

[Zombie]

IT was our offense that lost the game for us. We got the ball on O but couldn't do anything. We got one FG to show for our O. I think Edwards is a way better QB then Losman and would actually rather have him in it then Losman. I think it would have definitely been a for sure loss had Losman been in there. I would see more sacks and more fumbles if he was in it, possibly even more INT's.

The offense is what hurt the D. They'd go 3 an out and then bring the D back on and Dallas just wore em out, so when they got that onside kick they were in control and just needed those little plays. I really hope Juaron see's what Edwards has and thinks twice about Losman. He's already had 2 games that were much better then what Losman has had in the 3 games he was in (well 2 and a quarter).

Same thing happened against Denver. We had the game in our hands but couldn't FINISH/CLOSE the game. Always kept letting them have a chance. We can't win like that. It's the same thing as last year. Great first half then just dismantle the second half and give the other team back the game. They have like a mind set of they're already winning at the half and that's good enough for them. The biggest trouble area is our QB and O-line. They don't protect for shit, and it's been like that since Bledsoe was there. Granted he wouldn't run out of the pocket much but still, the line wouldn't protect. Although I think they're doing better now but still needs major improvement and we need a good QB that can take over the game and make things happen. I think Edwards has a chance of doing that, we'll see what happens come next year.

We have a bye next week and then Baltimore, NY jets (again), Bengals, and Dolphins. We CAN win all those games. I don't think Baltimore is doing that good that we can take that one away and we've beaten the Jets already, same with the Bengals haven't been doing good. The Bengals weakest part is their D. Our worst is our O so might end up even out but still have a chance. Then Miami which is probably the worst team in the NFL right now so we better win that. Then we have after that run, Pats, Jax, Skins, Fins (again), Browns, NY-G, and Eagles. So I already know we aint making the playoffs.

But had we won tonight we could have gotten 6 straight wins and been 6-3 when we met the Pats. We could still be 5-4 but after tonight I think that's going to go against them and really a big blow to the team.

It's a brutal year for us, with our already tough schedule, all the freak injuries that has happened, I just don't see anything anymore and let's just practice, and look for the #1 draft pick. Even #2.

While our D was just top notch tonight, I think Dallas was beating themselves as well. Like alot of people were saying, they were probably looking towards next weeks game against the Pats and probably underestimated Buffalo and they came from nowhere on them, but like I said about playing Madden. Doesn't matter how much your down at the Half, you/they can ALWAYS come back just have to play smarter and that's what Dallas did tonight. Their D stopped our O and their O wore out our D for when it matter'd the most.. Along with ALOT of luck, which was the INT we threw and that onside kick.. The FG range though I already knew it was going in. Had it been 55-56 yrd FG then we would have had a better chance of them missing it but, 52/53 was easy for them. To think about it a guy kicking a ball half the distance of a field is just amazinly sick lol Also we had that 57 yrd FG but went to much to the right, so that was another chance we had to secure this game.

So depressed...

[Utellme]

Heres my picks for this week

Houston
Jacksonville
New England
New Orleans
New York Jets
Seattle
Arizona
Detroit
Tennessee
Indianapolis
San Diego
Baltimore
Chicago
Dallas
10-4 this week not to bad

[BlakeTyner]

Excellent analysis, Zombs. I really like Edwards, and I agree that he's probably your starter. I wouldn't be so quick to write off the Bills and Pats, though. It's one of those Any Given Sunday situations. I don't have a lot of faith of the 'Boys pulling it out against them next week, but one never knows.

~Blake

[Utellme]

Blake got some Dallas questions for you.


1.After the game Romo had tonight maybe thats a good thing for him for next week right ?

2.A win in the fashion in which Dallas did it tonight can only propel them even higher for N.E right ?

3. Dallas Defense gets a A+ tonight would you agree ?

4.Terrance Newman i thought he was fast or is his foot still bothering him ? I thought he should of been gone for a TD on the INT ?

5. If this is Newman's top speed how will he keep up with Randy Moss ?

[BlakeTyner]

Blake got some Dallas questions for you.


1.After the game Romo had tonight maybe thats a good thing for him for next week right ?



I think it is, actually. The poise and confidence he was able to display after a terrible, terrible opening half can only help. Had he cracked under the pressure, it would have been bad. The thing I really like about Romo is what the announcers were saying, that he says if the worst thing that ever happens to him is in a game, he's doing fine. He's got a good head on his shoulders, that's for sure.



2.A win in the fashion in which Dallas did it tonight can only propel them even higher for N.E right ?

Well, it will certainly make for some good feelings at the Ranch this week, though I expect the practices to be very serious. One thing we haven't mentioned is how Dallas has cleaned up their penalties. Did we even hear Flozell's name tonight? On the road, with that crowd, that's saying a lot right there. On the other hand, they have to clean up the offense. The O-line lost quite a few battles in the first half tonight, and we just never could get a running game going. Look to Green Bay to see how that goes; a great QB and receivers can't make up for a stalled rush.



3. Dallas Defense gets a A+ tonight would you agree ?

I wouldn't say an A+...I'd say maybe a B+ or A-. They were able to prevent, but not really force any turnovers, except the one INT where it really counted (which I'm not discounting at all, but there needs to be more.) They need to put about twice as much pressure on Tom Brady as they did tonight, and I *still* think we need to be faking blitzes more often. But yes, they had a great night overall.



4.Terrance Newman i thought he was fast or is his foot still bothering him ? I thought he should of been gone for a TD on the INT ?

I want to say that Newman has some bursitis right now. It *could* be Ellis or Glenn with bursitis, but I'm relatively sure it's Newman. The foot, I think, is doing pretty well. I'd look for quite a bit of Cover Two against the Patriots. And, to be frank, if I was the defensive coordinator I'd even think about putting T.O. out against Moss every once in a while.


5. If this is Newman's top speed how will he keep up with Randy Moss ?Maybe bump and run, maybe they'll pull a safety underneath. There's always the chance that Newman will be 100% next week, too. As I said above, I'd look for Tampa Two for about 50-60% of the plays. That's just purely my own speculation, and what I'd be doing.

~Blake

Added:

Good job on the picks this week, btw.

[Utellme]

With a cover 2 that leaves the middle open.

T.O on Moss interesting.

As for the Dallas defense Buffalo did not have a offensive TD for the game right ?

Buffalos 3 TD'S was from 2 INTS and a Kick Return right ? And they gave up a FG which came from 1 of Romos Ints

As for my picks Thank you

[Spade]

- I really think Jason Witten *is* the best TE of the NFC


I completely agree.


FIVE AND OH! FIVE AND OH!

OH MY GOD!!!!

That game was great.

[Ron Simmons]

Damn.

[/Ron Simmons]


:lmao:

It all really goes back to point 1 above...you take a guy with what, 15 starts in the NFL, who has basically been the darling of the league all year, who opens the game with 2 throws for 2 interceptions, then goes on to tie a franchise record (Troy Aikman) for picks, and fumbles the ball away.....


....

...

...

to go on that last two-minute drill, score the high-pressure TD, then put the team in position for the game winning field goal.

Tony had a bad day today, but I assure you guys, he's the real deal.


Leave it to a homer to see a game like that and take it as a positive :p.

And, to be frank, if I was the defensive coordinator I'd even think about putting T.O. out against Moss every once in a while.

T.O. is a great wr, but he would get lost trying to guard Moss. Great WR doesn't mean great CB or even good CB and that is what he would need to be to handle Moss. Just my opinion.

[BlakeTyner]

Re: Cover Two - Yes, with the safeties covering the outside deep, the middle of the field is left vulnerable, particularly to the tight end. And, frankly, the Dallas linebacker squad isn't that great in coverage. But, at the end of the day, it's something that you almost have to do at least part of the time against a team like New England. If the Dallas defensive line can win the battle at scrimmage, and put pressure on Brady - which I think they can, particularly Ware - then he wouldn't have time to stay in the pocket and read the safety's commitment. But, even if he's got all the time in the world, dumping it off to the middle of the field for a short gain is preferable to hitting Moss on the sideline for a big play. Bend, but don't break.

Re: Defensive T.O. - I certainly wouldn't try to implement him both ways, but I might consider putting him on Moss once or twice during the game, just as a little trick. Even if Moss gets the ball, there'd be deep help available, and T.O. is the one man on the Cowboys team that I know, without a doubt, could catch Moss from behind. (Plus, T.O. seems to be playing corner anyway - preventing *himself* from making catches, lol)

I'd like to see a little more movement from Owens in the offense. Garrett had him lined up in the backfield against Chicago, going in motion, leaving the defense to read his direction last minute, and it worked well. And at some point, you're going to have to actually *give* it to him on the end-around or reverse, otherwise the teams will adjust to him being only a decoy (which, I think, happened to some degree last night.)

(And c'mon, Spade...if you'd thrown 5 picks and fumbled the ball away, would you have been able to lead that 2-minute drill? Lord knows I wouldn't have been able to, brah. It's the difference in being a talented player under adversity versus just being a choke artist. Had it been me, I fear I'd have <Chappelle as Morgan Freeman> buckled under the goddamn pressure. </Chappelle as Morgan Freeman>)

~Blake

[Spade]

Re: Defensive T.O. - I certainly wouldn't try to implement him both ways, but I might consider putting him on Moss once or twice during the game, just as a little trick. Even if Moss gets the ball, there'd be deep help available, and T.O. is the one man on the Cowboys team that I know, without a doubt, could catch Moss from behind. (Plus, T.O. seems to be playing corner anyway - preventing *himself* from making catches, lol)

I'd like to see a little more movement from Owens in the offense. Garrett had him lined up in the backfield against Chicago, going in motion, leaving the defense to read his direction last minute, and it worked well. And at some point, you're going to have to actually *give* it to him on the end-around or reverse, otherwise the teams will adjust to him being only a decoy (which, I think, happened to some degree last night.)

(And c'mon, Spade...if you'd thrown 5 picks and fumbled the ball away, would you have been able to lead that 2-minute drill? Lord knows I wouldn't have been able to, brah. It's the difference in being a talented player under adversity versus just being a choke artist. Had it been me, I fear I'd have <Chappelle as Morgan Freeman> buckled under the goddamn pressure. </Chappelle as Morgan Freeman>)

~Blake

I suppose putting T.O. on Moss a couple plays couldn't hurt, he does match him in size and athleticism pretty well (there speed is close though I actually thought T.O. is a little slower, but I'll have to wait to see them in the same game to tell who is faster)

Using Owens on the end-around or reverse is a great idea. That's what I always thought the Pats should try with Moss. I never wanted the Colts to try it with either Harrison or Wayne, but they tried it last game and it went nowhere.

I know it took some heart to lead that last 2 minute drill up the field like that. I was just teasing you since you are a homer. Hell I was watching the game with people who were saying "See we told you Romo was overrated, he's done. The first half of the season was a fluke." And there were a few comparrisons to Grossman. I tried to tell them that I think he'll bounce back from this, but hey you can't change everyone's mind.

The Cowboys need to all go and hug that rookie kicker :p.

Take care and God bless.

Spade

[The Dream Master]

Re: the cover two.

Sounds like a good idea, but I'll go one further and say the Cowboys should also line up in a strong nickel package and drop a linebacker into coverage right in the middle of the field on some plays. Of course, that's one less LB that'll be rushing, but if you line up as if you're going to blitz all the LBs, it's a nice little package to induce an interception in the middle of the field.

For the most part, though, the Cowboys are going to have to put major pressure on Brady because he'd pick apart the '85 Bears if they gave him enough time in the pocket. I also see the Cowboys employing a lot of bump and run along with some double-teams on Moss; they're going to make someone else beat them in a crucial situation.

As for offense, Dallas had better establish a decent rushing attack early because NE is a great pass defense team. They might have one of the most athletic defenses per position in the NFL, but, as is the case with every defense, if they're off-balance, they're beatable. I also think it's pretty clear that the Cowboys are going to have to protect Romo (even though he's good at being mobile in the pocket) so he has time to accurately read the defense. I'm guessing at least a couple of those INTs last night were a result of him mis-reading the defense because two of them were thrown as if he didn't even see a defender dropping back or coming over in coverage.

Anyway, my early prediction for the game is a New England victory by a slim margin. I don't think they'll roll over Dallas like they have everyone else, but I think they're a team on a mission, and, with all their personell, that's a scary, scary team right now.

[Zombie]

Even though Dallas stopped most of Buffalo's offensive run's, got to remember that Buffalo's offense isn't really that good. We're averging like 14-17 pts a game so it's not like we're the Bengals or any other top noth offense. We're probably in the last 5 in O. Our D is also pretty low, I think there was just alot of mistakes on Dallas end, although we have had a pretty solid D the past year's but we've lost alot of our key defensive players so that has hurt us alot.

I think Dallas went in thinking they were gonna run over the Bills like nothing, and the Bills came to play with nothing to lose but all the energy we had just went away after the half as well as Dallas playing alot smarter and wasn't taking Buffalo for granted.

That's what I was worried about. Dallas can go in and make plays and SCORE. Buffalo on the other hand cannot make key plays or really get in the end zone. Along with being able to FINISH a game or put a team away. All our games this year have been real close at the last second plays to end up losing the game. The defense can only score so much, the offense needs to do their part also.

I really believe if Dallas had practice and took Buffalo as Buffalo and not looking past them towards NE then they would have KILLED Buffalo early and probably would have been pretty much decided at Halftime.

But I'll take it, at least it showed America the Buffalo Bills, we don't get much national tv exposure so hopefully this might help a little. But I know we also need to win games also to get on tv some more. Just sucks living in New Mexico because it's always Dallas, Denver games and then they'll show the Colts because they're the champs which they did the same for the Steelers and such, and or we'll get like Pats games, Chicago's, and Oaklands mostly down over here. I'm sure if I lived up on the east coast I'd be able to see alot more Bills games.

[Speck]

Carolina Panthers signed up Vinny Testaverde on for a year. Man, he's got to be the oldest player in the NFL. Anyway, I hope he can strenghten the offense. I guess that's the best they can do given the situation with Jake Delhomme and David Carr.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8032b708&template=with-video&confirm=true

[Uncle Hoody]

Carolina Panthers signed up Vinny Testaverde on for a year. Man, he's got to be the oldest player in the NFL. Anyway, I hope he can strenghten the offense. I guess that's the best they can do given the situation with Jake Delhomme and David Carr.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8032b708&template=with-video&confirm=true

Morten Anderson says hello.

[Speck]

Morten Anderson says hello.

Forgive my ignorance :cry:

[Utellme]

Ok heres my picks for week 6.Lets see some other peoples picks ? Im 54-22 on the season so far.

Cinn
Hou
Clev
Wash
Balt
Chic
Phil
Tenn
Ariz
N.E
SD
N.O
NYG

Heres my record week to week
W 1 13-3
W 2 11-5
W 3 11-5
W 4 9-5
W 5 10-4 Ok lets see your records for the year
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54-22

[BlakeTyner]

I just wanted to pop in and let y'all know that I'm working crazy hours every weekend this month, so I won't be quite as active as usual. I'll still be rooting for my 'Boys (though I predict a N.E. win tomorrow) but, just wanted to let y'all know I'm not dead.

Face will be in contact with me quite a bit, so she might post some of my thoughts if need be.

~Blake

[Spade]

So is anyone watching the Pats-Cowboys game?

[girlychaos]

Unfortunately it's not on here. :(

But I'm checking it and it seems the 'Boys are doing a nice job so far. How do you like the game, Spade (and anyone else who might be watching it)?

[Spade]

I think it's a good game. I find myself rooting for both teams when they're on offence :lol:. Tom Brady is kicking butt. Dallas had a good second quarter.

[Utellme]

Dallas might have just lost the game with that holding call after Barber got the first down.Dallas is commiting way to many penaltys

[Spade]

Dallas might have just lost the game with that holding call after Barber got the first down.Dallas is commiting way to many penaltys

Yeah and this time it's not the officials fault like some of the other games.

Patriots just scored again now they lead by 14. That's 17 straight points for the Pats.

[Linderman]

Man, I love the Pats, I just don't want them to blow out Blake's team. Brady is freakin amazin, I guess that deal he made with the devil is working out for him.

Man, Tyson Thompson almost broke that one.

[Spade]

Yep Brady is awesome. I hope he keeps it up the rest of the season, but slows down a tiny bit. He's set to break Peyton Manning's single season TD record and being from Indy I'm a bigger Colts fan than an Pats fan. Hell being from Indy, I'm not even supposed to be a Pats fan.

[Speck]

The Panthers/Cardinals game wasn't on TV down here, but from what I've seen in the recaps Vinny Testaverde did a pretty good job today. No interceptions, 20 out of 33 complete passes, and 206 yards total. Certainly nothing to sneeze at! Go Panthers!

[Spade]

Now that was a great second half for the Pats.

The Panthers/Cardinals game wasn't on TV down here, but from what I've seen in the recaps Vinny Testaverde did a pretty good job today. No interceptions, 20 out of 33 complete passes, and 206 yards total. Certainly nothing to sneeze at! Go Panthers!

I missed that game as well. I glad to hear that Testaverde did good. When they signed him I thought it was a stupid move, but I guess he proved me wrong. Hopefully he keeps it up and the Panthers fans have something to cheer about.

[Utellme]

Well Dallas sees now what they need to fix to get to the next level.

1st quarter-- get off to a quicker start and stop letting teams get the lead on them today against a great team it finally haunted them

Defense-- Make Roy williams a LB or something cause he cant cover for nothing the whole defense as a whole still needs to get better.

Penaltys--Way to many penaltys i think the penaltys beat the Cowboys not the patriots

Offense-- Open it even more go deep to T.O they never do unless there waiting for a speedy T Glenn for that.Establish the running game a little more

All and all though i cant complain there 5-1 alot of season left to go

[girlychaos]

So, the game is over. I have a couple of things to say though.

Face will be in contact with me quite a bit, so she might post some of my thoughts if need be.

For those of you who don't know yet, I'm Face (or Prettyface)...that's what Blakey calls me. I express my feelings and his by this: :(

Yeah...our Cowboys lost. I can't really say much about the game cause it wasn't on here. I've only been able to check (update) through the internet, but from what I saw, it seems the game was nice, and I think Spade is right about the penalties; again...I haven't seen the highlights or anything yet. I do want to say that Nick Folk still is my hero. And the Cowboys have been great this season...there's still a lot to come btw.



Man, I love the Pats, I just don't want them to blow out Blake's team. Brady is freakin amazin, I guess that deal he made with the devil is working out for him.

N.E. is my second team, which doesn't change the fact that I was rooting for the Cowboys. Still...you're right. Brady is great and the team looks amazing.

ps. Doog...they're my team too, you know? :p :)

[NW77]

The Panthers/Cardinals game wasn't on TV down here, but from what I've seen in the recaps Vinny Testaverde did a pretty good job today. No interceptions, 20 out of 33 complete passes, and 206 yards total. Certainly nothing to sneeze at! Go Panthers!

I watch the game & it seem Pep has awaken from his long sleep. He got 2 sacks, both resulting in fumble. First was on Warner which Pep recover the ball, but also Warner bent his arm on that one & is likely out for the season. Ouch! And Pep got another sack on Rattay, thought Rattay recover it. And Smitty & D.Williams made the play today along with Vinny. Both of the 2 made over 100 yards & both got a TD. It great we're 4-2 now & will be taking a rest next week before we take on the Colts. We need it badly. And I think Vinny should play instead of Carr. Vinny just has more experience & can throw better than Carr. After all, Vinny threw a beautiful 44 or 65 yrd. to Smitty, thus Smitty score a TD. I forgot how many yards Vinny threw before Smitty got it, but I know Smitty ran for a 65 yards TD. :)

[Jason's Storm]

How about the Vikings Peterson. He set a Viking record as a rookie runningback. Also how about that last second field goal. A Longwell record.

~JS

[Speck]

I watch the game & it seem Pep has awaken from his long sleep. He got 2 sacks, both resulting in fumble. First was on Warner which Pep recover the ball, but also Warner bent his arm on that one & is likely out for the season. Ouch! And Pep got another sack on Rattay, thought Rattay recover it. And Smitty & D.Williams made the play today along with Vinny. Both of the 2 made over 100 yards & both got a TD. It great we're 4-2 now & will be taking a rest next week before we take on the Colts. We need it badly. And I think Vinny should play instead of Carr. Vinny just has more experience & can throw better than Carr. After all, Vinny threw a beautiful 44 or 65 yrd. to Smitty, thus Smitty score a TD. I forgot how many yards Vinny threw before Smitty got it, but I know Smitty ran for a 65 yards TD. :)

Yeah we're definetely going to need to rest up for the Colts. Julius Peppers is from Bailey, NC which isn't too far from my hometown. What part of NC are you from again, NW? I'm from Greenville, NC.

In other news, the Saints are playing pretty good tonight against the Seahawks. Looks like they could very well capture their first win.

[NETRA]

How about the Vikings Peterson. He set a Viking record as a rookie runningback. Also how about that last second field goal. A Longwell record.

The Vikings are my second favorite team. But I don't have a dish so I find myself keeping track of them on the net... watching little purple lines on a tiny field graphic. Still, I nearly had a heart attack in those last 5 or 6 minutes...

I thought the Vikings had it locked up when they were 14 points ahead. But the Bears came back! Argh. It sure came down to the wire. Those last second field goals seem cheap and irritating... except when they happen to the team you're cheering for! :)

Those are the games that are scary while you're watching them but once it's over you realize how much fun it was. Hope it goes as well when my Falcons take on the Giants tomorrow night. (I can hope can't I?)

[The Dream Master]

Some people might say that New England's win was the most impressive of the day.

They'd be wrong.

Winning a game with a starting QB who is almost 44 years old is beyond impressive. You know, I might have given up on the season too quickly. Who knows--Testaverde might play out of his mind and lead the Panthers on some unbelievable run. I guess we'll know a little more in a couple of weeks when they face Indy, but, for now, I'm happy that the Panthers are 4-2, which is more than what most teams in the NFC can say.

[Kat]

My two teams have always been the Pats and the Bears :D I thought NE was going to win but not by that large of a margin. Cowboys are still cool though (probably my 3rd - 4th favorite team, out of the 5 NFL teams I cheer for). I am sad for Romo right now with his dad having cancer and all.

[The Dream Master]

The Patriots basically came in and punched Dallas right in the face. There's no doubt that New England was, and is, the superior team there.

If you're Dallas, there is good news, however: you play in the NFC and have a good chance to make it to the Super Bowl. Maybe you get the Pats again and they have a bad game, and you beat them. I don't see that happening though because I think Dallas has way too many flaws in their secondary. Right now, I'd say it's a toss-up among the best teams in the NFC as to who will go to the Super Bowl. No matter what, however, I can't see the best NFC team hanging with the best three AFC teams (Pats, Colts, Steelers).

[NW77]

What part of NC are you from again, NW? I'm from Greenville, NC.



I was born in Charlotte. Right now, I live in Morganton. That's between Hickory & Asheville.

[Speck]

Cool. I'll be going through there next week on the way to Bryson City where me and my family will be vacationing for a couple of days.

[Utellme]

Ok heres my picks for week 6.Lets see some other peoples picks ? Im 54-22 on the season so far.

Cinn
Hou
Clev
Wash
Balt
Chic
Phil
Tenn
Ariz
N.E
SD
N.O
NYG

Heres my record week to week
W 1 13-3
W 2 11-5
W 3 11-5
W 4 9-5
W 5 10-4 Ok lets see your records for the year
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54-22
7-6 this week making me 61-28 on the year so far.

[girlychaos]

Congrats, Utellme! :)

Hey, I'm gonna check it soon, but does anybody know how the Bucs are doing so far? I guess they won their last game (was it the Saints they played btw?). Any info will be appreciated. :D

[Speck]

The Bucs are #1 in the NFC South. They're 4-2. They won against the Titans last Sunday. Saints won agains the Seahawks.

[Utellme]

Thanks Chaos The Bucs just picked up RB Bennett from KC Chiefs.And don't be surprised if the saints get there stuff together and finish 11-5 or 10-6

[girlychaos]

The Bucs are #1 in the NFC South. They're 4-2. They won against the Titans last Sunday. Saints won agains the Seahawks.

Thank you so much, Speck. I actually didn't know they were doing so nice! And yeah...I thought I heard they played the Saints, but seeing as how we got no football coverage here this week, I know I just got confused, lol. :D


Thanks Chaos The Bucs just picked up RB Bennett from KC Chiefs.And don't be surprised if the saints get there stuff together and finish 11-5 or 10-6

Yeah...and thanks for the info as well, Utellme. I know what you mean about the Saints, and I actually don't really "doubt" that, so...let's wait and see. :)

[NW77]

The Bucs are #1 in the NFC South. They're 4-2. They won against the Titans last Sunday. Saints won agains the Seahawks.

I thought the Bucs & Panthers are tied up right now? They're both 4-2 right now.

[Speck]

I thought the Bucs & Panthers are tied up right now? They're both 4-2 right now.

Yeah, you're right. My bad.

I'm hoping the Panthers can take the Bucs next time around.

[The Dream Master]

The Bucs are technically in first though because they beat the Panthers in their head-to-head matchup.

[Utellme]

Picks for week 7

Balt
N.O
Wash
NYG
N.E
Tenn
Det
KC
Cinn
Sea
Chic
Dallas
Pitt
Ind

[NETRA]

The Bucs are technically in first though because they beat the Panthers in their head-to-head matchup.

According to the NFL standings listed at http://www.nfl.com/teams/carolinapanthers/schedule?team=CAR the panthers are #1 and the Bucs are #2. But either way it sucks for me because the Falcons are at the bottom (even below the Saints, who we play tomorrow... the battle to see who's the worst in the NFC South).

[Utellme]

According to the NFL standings listed at http://www.nfl.com/teams/carolinapanthers/schedule?team=CAR the panthers are #1 and the Bucs are #2. But either way it sucks for me because the Falcons are at the bottom (even below the Saints, who we play tomorrow... the battle to see who's the worst in the NFC South).
Thats cause of alphabetical order Caro comes before Tampa.Tampa is in first cause they won the head to head meeting with Caro.Regardless either way its to early to matter yet.Netra i have a bad feeling your Falcons are in for a rough day with the Saints for your sake i hope im wrong but the Saints i think are ready to roll now and maybe win this division.Whats your picks this week Netra ?

[NETRA]

Whats your picks this week Netra ?

Nobody has ever asked me that before. I suddenly feel like somebody. :D Well, I mostly follow the NFC South and NFC North so I'll stick with those . . .

- Bucs over Lions.
- Cowboys over Vikings (though I'm cheering for the Vikings. Sorry.)
- Bears over Eagles
- And of course the Falcons will rip the Saints a new one. But that might just be my heart talking.

Panthers and Packers both have bye weeks. Rest easy fellas... Next week, your asses will be grasses.

[bearholic247]

Just checking in. My roommates and I are in the process of switching internet providers so I haven't been online much the past few weeks. It just figures that the Bears have totally flipped. Granted they have alot of injuries but clearly the defense is struggling. Anyways I'm hoping they can pull it together against the Eagles. Fortunately the NFC isn't very strong and if the Bears can regroup I think they can still be factor in the playoff race.

[girlychaos]

I'm cheering for the Vikings. Sorry.
- And of course the Falcons will rip the Saints a new one.

Not this time...sorry. :)


Utellme...I have to say those picks were amazing. Even if you're wrong about the two games left (which I don't really think you are), that was great. Congrats!

[Utellme]

Yeah 11-1 the 1 i missed was the Buffalo win.It would be sweet to pull off a 13-1 week but even a 11-3 is fine we will see.Jax will give Indy a game i think

[girlychaos]

Yeah 11-1 the 1 i missed was the Buffalo win.It would be sweet to pull off a 13-1 week but even a 11-3 is fine we will see.Jax will give Indy a game i think

Yeah, I do think the Jaguars will put up a fight. You know what's funny though? I agreed with almost all of your picks for this week when you posted it, but three. What I would have said differently was Bills (and that happened), Bucs (I was wrong here) and Cardinals (also wrong, but hey...that was a pretty close call, huh?). Other than that, I did agree with everything.

[Spade]

Yeah, I do think the Jaguars will put up a fight. You know what's funny though? I agreed with almost all of your picks for this week when you posted it, but three. What I would have said differently was Bills (and that happened), Bucs (I was wrong here) and Cardinals (also wrong, but hey...that was a pretty close call, huh?). Other than that, I did agree with everything.

While I'm sure Indy will beat the Jaguars, the Jags always put up a good fight against the Colts. They are probably our biggiest rival behind the Patriots. I can't think of another team that always has their best game against the Colts. Each game ends up being close and decided by either a td or a field goal. Hell last year they rushed for 375 yrds on us. Although I don't see them getting anywhere near that, I think the game will be close.

[Utellme]

Yeah, I do think the Jaguars will put up a fight. You know what's funny though? I agreed with almost all of your picks for this week when you posted it, but three. What I would have said differently was Bills (and that happened), Bucs (I was wrong here) and Cardinals (also wrong, but hey...that was a pretty close call, huh?). Other than that, I did agree with everything.
This is why you should start posting your picks its only for fun i cant believe more of you don't ? Its just for fun even if a seperate thread is needed for it ?

[NETRA]

Not this time...sorry.

Yeah, that's going to be on my headstone.

[The Dream Master]

I've been meaning to post my predictions for each week, but I keep forgetting.

I guess I'll start with tomorrow's game. I want to take the Jags at home because they play the Colts very well. They're a physical team, which usually spells trouble for Indy. However, Manning has had two weeks to prepare for the Jags, which is the X-factor. Therefore, I think the Colts will win a very close game by a field goal.

[BlakeTyner]

I've been working like crazy this weekend, but got to watch the game - first half at home, second half on my little portable TV at work - and so I'm happy my 'Boys won. It's nice going into the bye at 6-1, and Romo can let that hamstring heal...not to mention the other starters that are injured. We get Tank for the Giants game, too (his suspension will be up...he *has* been practicing with the team due to a waiver) so that should help down the stretch.

Since Indy's already won a Super Bowl, I'm rather meh on them. I've rooted for them (against all but Dallas) since '98 or '99, so now I feel like I need to pick a new backup team. Maybe the Saints.

As happy as I am about Dallas this year, the big elephant in the room is still New England. Right now there's not a team in the NFL that is as good, and there's not a QB as good as Brady. And, don't get me wrong, I basically hate them, but you have to call 'em like you see 'em. Sure, his QB rating will go down once the weather turns and there's some wind, but that team is just loaded with weapons. If (big if, here) the Super Bowl ends up being Dallas - New England, *can* the Cowboys beat them? I say yes, but only because of that whole "Any Given Sunday" thing...but the odds would be about a thousand to one.

I just don't want to become the Buffalo of the new decade.

~Blake

[Spade]

Since Indy's already won a Super Bowl, I'm rather meh on them. I've rooted for them (against all but Dallas) since '98 or '99, so now I feel like I need to pick a new backup team. Maybe the Saints.

As happy as I am about Dallas this year, the big elephant in the room is still New England. Right now there's not a team in the NFL that is as good, and there's not a QB as good as Brady. And, don't get me wrong, I basically hate them, but you have to call 'em like you see 'em. Sure, his QB rating will go down once the weather turns and there's some wind, but that team is just loaded with weapons. If (big if, here) the Super Bowl ends up being Dallas - New England, *can* the Cowboys beat them? I say yes, but only because of that whole "Any Given Sunday" thing...but the odds would be about a thousand to one.

I just don't want to become the Buffalo of the new decade.

~Blake


Buffalo of the new decade... :lmao: man that would suck.

Aw come on man you have to root for the Colts and the Pats. We need more Colts/Pats fans on here. Don't get me wrong I'm a big Cowboys fan, but my favorite team is the Colts followed closely by the Pats or the Boys.

I like the Saints. I root for them all the time. I'm hoping Brees turns his bad start around and gets back to being a great qb.

[girlychaos]

Aw come on man you have to root for the Colts and the Pats. We need more Colts/Pats fans on here. Don't get me wrong I'm a big Cowboys fan, but my favorite team is the Colts followed closely by the Pats or the Boys.

I've been trying to ask Blakey not to hate the Pats...join me, I need all the help I can get! LOL

I'm a Cowboys fan...but everybody knows I like the Pats a lot...and even though I still haven't seen the Colts play that much, I root for them if they're not playing Dallas or N.E. :D

This is totally out of the blue, but...I kinda like the Bucs, but not anywhere near as much as I like the teams I mentioned.

[Spade]

I've been trying to ask Blakey not to hate the Pats...join me, I need all the help I can get! LOL

I'm a Cowboys fan...but everybody knows I like the Pats a lot...and even though I still haven't seen the Colts play that much, I root for them if they're not playing Dallas or N.E. :D

This is totally out of the blue, but...I kinda like the Bucs, but not anywhere near as much as I like the teams I mentioned.

The Pats are a hated team, I'm one of the only few Colts fans I know that like the Pats.

About the Colts, this season isn't there best season as far as being fun to watch. That goes to a couple seasons back when they were playing like the Pats are now. Manning to Harrison left and right (much like Brady to Moss). They were breaking records for most TD's for a QB WR combo in history. Then Manning set the single season TD record (which it looks like Brady might break this year). That was the funnest regular season to watch, but they were eliminated in the playoffs. And last year we won, so that was fun.

The Bucs aren't bad, I liked Cadilac Williams in college and in his first year as a pro, but he got hurt this year.

[NETRA]

[I]The Pats are a hated team, I'm one of the only few Colts fans I know that like the Pats.

I can't help but admire their talent (that goes for the Patriots and Colts). The Brady/Moss machine is indestructible. And I think Manning is adorable. But I would still very much enjoy seeing them lose!

I'm a Cowboys fan...but everybody knows I like the Pats a lot...and even though I still haven't seen the Colts play that much, I root for them if they're not playing Dallas or N.E..

Good grief... Cowboys, Patriots and Colts? I assume you're also a fan of the '85 Bears? :p I wish I could say the same but....

I was born into Falcon country and have remained with them through thick and thin (mostly thin). I also spent 4 years in Viking country and learned to love them too. So I guess my teams chose me.

Every fall and winter it's the same thing... And the last few years have not gone too well. For me, football means having a pit in my stomach and a knot in my neck. But when one of my teams has a good year (and it will come) the satisfaction will be all the greater. :)

[Spade]

I can't help but admire their talent (that goes for the Patriots and Colts). The Brady/Moss machine is indestructible. And I think Manning is adorable. But I would still very much enjoy seeing them lose!

I feel that way about some teams too.

Good grief... Cowboys, Patriots and Colts? I assume you're also a fan of the '85 Bears? :p I wish I could say the same but....

I was born into Falcon country and have remained with them through thick and thin (mostly thin). I also spent 4 years in Viking country and learned to love them too. So I guess my teams chose me.

I know that wasn't directed at me, but that first part made me laugh so much.

I undertand about sticking with a team through thick and thin. The Colts have had numerous crappy seasons in the past. And in the NBA side of things, the Pacers have been bad more than I wish to remember. Nothing good ever happens with them (with the exception of Miller).

I guess I've grown to like the Pats because they always play the Colts hard. I grew to admire the way the play. They eliminated us year after year in the playoffs, you'd think I'd hate that team, but I grew to like watching them.

[girlychaos]

Good grief... Cowboys, Patriots and Colts? I assume you're also a fan of the '85 Bears?

I also said I like the Bucs, remember? :)
The thing is...I didn't know anything about football till a couple of months ago. I was never really into sports and we basically don't have American football where I live. So...the reason why I am a Cowboys fan is because the person who told me everything I know about football is also a fan...and I would love them even if they were the worst NFC team.

Now the Pats...I honestly loved them from the start. I think it was actually the first game I got to watch. And I had absolutely no idea they were that great at all. The Colts...well, I think I've only watched one game, but I hear all kinds of great things about them...not about winning, just about them.

I guess the word you used a couple of weeks back applies to me...lucky it is. Yeah, you might say I'm lucky to like the teams I do. But I most certainly didn't "choose" them because they're doing great this season.

[BlakeTyner]

I think I've got everyone beat when it comes to longevity...look somewhere upthread and you'll find a pic of a, what, 11 month old Blake with a Cowboys shirt on. :-)

And Girly has to be a Cowboys fan because she learned the game with them as the example, plus I don't know that I could be with her if she rooted for someone like...Philly...lol.

~Blake
ADDED:
because the person who told me everything I know about football is also a fan...


"the person who told me everything...?"

Sick burn on teh Blake.

[girlychaos]

"the person who told me everything...?"

Sick burn on teh Blake.


Whoa...let's take it easy there, you know it's you. ;)

But yeah...you've been so patient teaching me all about football. I'm so glad you're a Cowboys fan...I wish you wouldn't hate the Pats though, you know? LOL

[BlakeTyner]

Whoa...let's take it easy there, you know it's you. ;)

But yeah...you've been so patient teaching me all about football. I'm so glad you're a Cowboys fan...I wish you wouldn't hate the Pats though, you know? LOL


Well...if they wouldn't make it so easy...lol

It's cool tho, Face. Like I say, a Pats fan beats an Eagles fan any day. ;)

~Blake

[The Dream Master]

Well, I predicted a Colts victory, but I didn't think they'd make it this easy. They absolutely dismantled J-Ville tonight.

[girlychaos]

I was expecting a much more exciting game.

I did predict the Colts would win too but I honestly thought the game would be more interesting.

[Spade]

Well, I predicted a Colts victory, but I didn't think they'd make it this easy. They absolutely dismantled J-Ville tonight.

Yeah it surprised me too.

I was expecting a much more exciting game.

I did predict the Colts would win too but I honestly thought the game would be more interesting.

I'm with you on that one. The game wasn't exciting. But the games with the Jags are usually not that exciting just hard games. Plus for the most part this season the Colts aren't as exciting as they have been.

I wish you would've gotten into football a couple years back, when the Colts were as exciting (if not more) than the Pats are now.

One thing about the Colts that is slowly beginning to annoy me is that they hardly throw the ball to Marvin Harrison anymore. This makes no sense. You have a player who is going to go down being the #2 WR of all time (stat wise) and you don't use him that much. Hopefully they start to throw the ball to him more often, so far he's on pace to have his first season without 1000 yrds in a very very long time -1998.

[Utellme]

Heres the week 7 schedule with my picks lets see your picks.

Ind at Caro -- Ind
Det at Chic -- Chic
Pitt at Cinn -- Cinn
NYG at Mia -- NYG
Phil at Minn -- Minn
Clev at Stl -- Clev
Oak at Tenn -- Tenn
Buff at NYJ -- Buff
Hou at SD -- SD
Jax at TB -- TB
Wash at N.E -- N.E
N.O at SF -- N.O
GB at Den -- Den

Last week i was 12-2 one of my best weeks of the year so far after having one of my worse weeks at 7-6 ,putting my record at 73-30 on the year.Ok now lets see your picks

[Spade]

Heres the week 7 schedule with my picks lets see your picks.

Ind at Caro -- Ind
Det at Chic -- Chic
Pitt at Cinn -- Cinn
NYG at Mia -- NYG
Phil at Minn -- Minn
Clev at Stl -- Clev
Oak at Tenn -- Tenn
Buff at NYJ -- Buff
Hou at SD -- SD
Jax at TB -- TB
Wash at N.E -- N.E
N.O at SF -- N.O
GB at Den -- Den

Last week i was 12-2 one of my best weeks of the year so far after having one of my worse weeks at 7-6 ,putting my record at 73-30 on the year.Ok now lets see your picks


I don't usually do picks, but I'll give it a shot :

Colts
Bears
Steelers
Giants
Vikings
Browns
Titans
Bills
Chargers
Jaguars (unless Garrard is out then TB)
Patriots
Saints
Packers

It's pretty much like yours with a few exceptions.

[girlychaos]

I wish you would've gotten into football a couple years back, when the Colts were as exciting (if not more) than the Pats are now.

Well, I liked the game. I just thought the Jaguars would be better somehow, you know? The Colts did great...I have to say Manning is pretty nice (then again, you already know that :) ).


Heres the week 7 schedule with my picks lets see your picks.

Well, okay...let's do this. Here are my picks:

Colts
Lions
Steelers
Giants
Vikings
Browns
Titans
Bills
Texans
Bucs
Pats
Saints
Packers

[bearholic247]

It's interesting reading about which teams people like and why. I was born in Illinois and consider myself fortunate to have become a Bears fan at a young age. I remember when I was in 1st grade the Arizona Cardinals were still in St. Louis and it was actually a 50/50 split between Bears and Cardinals fans. For me it's always been the just the Bears. I wouldn't even try to have a 2nd favorite team. I actually enjoy rooting against certain teams. I can respect players like Brett Favre and what he's done but I still root against the Packers every week. I figure every Packers loss can help the Bears in their division.

I'm horrible at picking games, but I'll give it a shot

Week 8 picks
Bears over Lions
Colts over Panthers
Patriots over Redskins
Steelers over Bengals
Giants over Dolphins
Browns over Rams
Eagles over Vikings
Titans over Raiders
Jets over Bills
Chargers over Texans
Buccaneers over Jaguars
Saints over 49ers
Broncos over Packers

[BlakeTyner]

I know what you mean, 'holic. I always respected Brett Favre, even in the mid-90's when I had to root against him in those conference championships. That said, I generally root for the Pack when they're not going up against my team.

However, the way you feel about Favre is the way I feel right now about Brady. I respect the man's ability (he is, IMHO, the best QB in the game) but gosh I want them to lose! (Sorry, Face!)

~Blake

[The Dream Master]

The year I decided to become a Panthers fan (after just watching the NFL in general for years), they went 1-15, but I stuck with them. That's dedication, fans.

[Spade]

I actually enjoy rooting against certain teams. I can respect players like Brett Favre and what he's done but I still root against the Packers every week. I figure every Packers loss can help the Bears in their division.


I'm that way about the Packers and Favre as well. Sadly I began to be that way about the Bears also (mainly cause of Grossman). Now that he's not starting I'm beginning to not dislike them as much.

[Speck]

The Panthers are starting Vinny T ahead of David Carr this Sunday. All I can say is....THANK GOD!!!!

[NW77]

The Panthers are starting Vinny T ahead of David Carr this Sunday. All I can say is....THANK GOD!!!!

Ditto. He just prove he is better than Carr.

[Killa Pimp]

Ditto. He just prove he is better than Carr.

The Panthers are starting Vinny T ahead of David Carr this Sunday. All I can say is....THANK GOD!!!!

Jeez, if it weren't for the Dolphins and Rams, I would imagine hearing this next week:

"Carolina Panthers, YOU are now on the clock!"

I was going to go to to the Panthers/Colts... But now???? I don't know.
I'll probably go to a college game in the area and catch this @$$ kicking on TV Sunday instead of driving to it for 2 hours and then having to come back home.

[The Dream Master]

Come on dude, the Panthers are in the NFC South, where it might only take 8 or 9 wins to go to the playoffs. :)

[NETRA]

The year I decided to become a Panthers fan (after just watching the NFL in general for years), they went 1-15, but I stuck with them. That's dedication, fans.

That could very well happen with my Falcons this year. (1-6 so far) They're on our way! You know things are dire when I'm HAPPY about a bye week because at least I know they won't get beat. Whoo-hoo!

the way you feel about Favre is the way I feel right now about Brady. I respect the man's ability . . . but gosh I want them to lose!

I second that. Speaking as someone with an affection for the Vikings, Favre and the Packers are annoying to me (bitter rivals). Besides, I'm sick to death of the commentators telling me how happy I should be every time he throws a touchdown pass. Um, we aren't ALL cheering for them ya know! Why does every broadcaster think we're all Packers fans?!

[The Dream Master]

Look at it this way, Net: the Falcons should be getting a pretty decent draft pick next year. :p

[Utellme]

As of right now im 8-4 with my picks going into the Monday Night game.

And don't look now but the Saints that i said about 2 weeks ago are only 1 game out of 1st place.

Well heres the records before the Monday night game and there team they picked in the MNF.

Spade --9-3 --- GB
Girl -- 9-3 --- GB
Bear -- 9-3 --- Den
Utell -- 8-4 --- Den

[Spade]

I should be 9-3 because I picked the Jags if Garrard played, but the Bucs if he didn't. He didn't play and the Jags still won. So I lost that one.

[girlychaos]

I should be 9-3 because I picked the Jags if Garrard played, but the Bucs if he didn't. He didn't play and the Jags still won. So I lost that one.

I haven't watched that game. But 24-23...c'mon! LOL

[NETRA]

Forgot to make picks for this week but that's okay because I'm not very good at it anyway. I always let my heart guide me instead of my brain (and I expect upsets in every game).

And don't look now but the Saints that i said about 2 weeks ago are only 1 game out of 1st place.

Yeah, the commentators are saying the Saints are "back on track" after three victories in a row. But lets keep in mind that two of those were against the Falcons and the 49ers! I'm not impressed yet. (Stupid Saints!)

Look at it this way, Net: the Falcons should be getting a pretty decent draft pick next year. :p

I'm afraid we need about 6 or 7 decent draft picks to get this team out of the hole.

[The Dream Master]

Well, it's not as if all hope is lost for the Falcons. They are playing in the NFC South after all, where a 3-game winning streak could potentially put you at the top of the division. :lol:

[Utellme]

Originally Posted by Utellme View Post
And don't look now but the Saints that i said about 2 weeks ago are only 1 game out of 1st place.

Yeah, the commentators are saying the Saints are "back on track" after three victories in a row. But lets keep in mind that two of those were against the Falcons and the 49ers! I'm not impressed yet. (Stupid Saints!)

Ok but lets not forget you can't pick your opponents and you have to play who you play.You have to beat the teams you should which is never a given any given team can win from week to week.You might not be impressed yet and i can't say i blame you but when the Saints finish 10-6 or 11-5 and probably winning the division you might be then.

Well, it's not as if all hope is lost for the Falcons. They are playing in the NFC South after all, where a 3-game winning streak could potentially put you at the top of the division.

Problem with Atlanta is that they never have added any good WR'S to that team.There defense is just ok at best

[girlychaos]

I'm that way about the Packers and Favre as well. Sadly I began to be that way about the Bears also (mainly cause of Grossman). Now that he's not starting I'm beginning to not dislike them as much.

I wasn't really "rooting" for the Packers, but I really liked the game.


And sure...I get it that you guys might feel this way about Favre (and Brady, right, baby? ;) ), but you need to respect the man, I mean...there's a reason he got to be where he is now, you know? And he showed it again tonight.

Now, as far as Grossman is concerned...I don't really like him, but I feel bad for him. I honestly do.

[The Dream Master]

That was an unbelievable pass to end the game. It was absolutely beautiful.

[girlychaos]

Exactly!

It was mind blowing.

[Zombie]

Can the Bronco's win a game without a last second FG? I swear they're pathetic and cheap. I know it's a W and that's all that counts but tonight proved they can't just rely on FG's.

I don't know what's worse, Denver just getting by on a FG at the last sec every game or coaches calling TO's right at the snap so they have to re-do the kick.

[Spade]

I wasn't really "rooting" for the Packers, but I really liked the game.


And sure...I get it that you guys might feel this way about Favre (and Brady, right, baby? ;) ), but you need to respect the man, I mean...there's a reason he got to be where he is now, you know? And he showed it again tonight.

Now, as far as Grossman is concerned...I don't really like him, but I feel bad for him. I honestly do.

I respect Favre. I just think he is highly overrated. They make a huge deal out of the fact that he has(or will have) the records for passing yards and passing td's, but they always forget to mention that he holds the record for interceptions as well. And if they do mention the interceptions he throws they always make excuses like "He doesn't have a good WR so he has to take chances". Bull, a good qb will either throw the ball away or throw it short. You don't always have to throw the long bomb into triple coverage.

Exactly!

It was mind blowing.

I didn't watch it.

[Utellme]

Well this weeks record for picks was

Spade 10-3
Girl 10-3
Bear 9-4
Utell 8-5

Good job everyone on your picks

[girlychaos]

I respect Favre. I just think he is highly overrated. They make a huge deal out of the fact that he has(or will have) the records for passing yards and passing td's, but they always forget to mention that he holds the record for interceptions as well. And if they do mention the interceptions he throws they always make excuses like "He doesn't have a good WR so he has to take chances". Bull, a good qb will either throw the ball away or throw it short. You don't always have to throw the long bomb into triple coverage.

Yeah...well, I don't really know that much about him...I'm still doing my research, but well...I know the ideal situation would be him not holding the record for interceptions but it is part of the job, you know what I mean? I'm not saying he's the best QB ever at all...far from it. But he deserves to be respected...that's pretty much all I'm saying.


I didn't watch it.

It was pretty neat. And it seems we get first place this week, huh? ;) :)

[Spade]

Yeah...well, I don't really know that much about him...I'm still doing my research, but well...I know the ideal situation would be him not holding the record for interceptions but it is part of the job, you know what I mean? I'm not saying he's the best QB ever at all...far from it. But he deserves to be respected...that's pretty much all I'm saying.

And your completely right.

It was pretty neat. And it seems we get first place this week, huh? ;) :)

Yeah, but next week your going down :D.