'Friday the 13th' Remake/Reboot Discussion, Part VI (SPOILERS)

[Just Jeans]

[Previous Thread (http://www.f13-community.co.uk/board/showthread.php?t=3288&page=19)]

The following was originally my most recent post in the previous thread, but I've decided to start the thing anew with an opening message to all:

I'm only going to say this once, and there will be no further warning: when this thread re-opens, it will remain civil and on topic. If it begins to spiral out of control again, I'll start temp-banning people. Depending on how nasty it gets, those bans may become permanent. Keep this in mind when you're trying to decide how best to address your fellow forum members.

There's no rule that requires you to like absolutely everyone that you interact with on the forum, but there is a rule that requires you be civil.

Thank you.

As girlychaos is the one who initially locked the thread down, I'm leaving the reopening of the new thread up to her. And when it is reopened, the staff will be keeping a close eye on things.

[girlychaos]

Jeans said it all.

Please keep it civil and avoid trouble, everyone.

[Chex]

So if Jason is still wearing his mesh looking shirt like in the photos, shouldn't the film be rated X for brief mongoloid nipple flashing?

[Jigsaw]

Hard to believe this movie's release isn't that much farther off. Time sure has flown lately. This is probably my most anticipated movie of 2009, and I'm psyched it comes out so early in the year.

[francesco]

thanks u reopened the topic.

[HeavyMetalNinja]

I was talking to a buddy of mine, he's concerned that the new Jason is going to be more intelligent, and be doing more complex things such as setting elaborate traps, and capturing / torturing people, rather than just jumping out and taking people down with simple attacks. He doesn't want Jason to be a mastermind villain, and I agree with that. However, is there any reason to think this will be the case? Stuff I've seen so far looks like he is just going to break you down or push things through your chest - which is what should be happening. Is there talk of him doing anything else?

[Darth Sinister]

Jason was never stupid in the original films. He could be tricked, but he planned out his attacks especially in the earlier films. It's only with the seventh film that Jason was more of a Terminator type than a ninja stalker. In the second film, he was smart enough to realize Ginny was under the bed and to fake leaving her cabin. Then to climb on the chair to get her when she stuck her head out. The only fuck up was the chair collapsing under his weight. He was smart enough to lure Chuck and Chili to the barn, but they didn't come near him for the kill. He was smart enough to lock himself and Chris in the barn. He was smart enough to leave a raft out in the middle of the lake which Samantha went for, then wait for Paul when he heard him coming down by the dock. He was smart enough to hide in the bathroom of the RV to get Nikki. Hell, there's a question of whether or not Jason set up the snare that Scott stepped into in the second film or if it was Paul.

In this film, Jason is more of a Rambo type. A true mountain man who has lived on his own for all these years and has not only kept himself alive, but killed a number of people.

[HeavyMetalNinja]

Yeah, I didn't mean to suggest that Jason is stupid. Those things you list I wouldn't call mastermind schemes or elaborate traps, just sensible things to do if you want to kill someone. The concern is Jason becoming more of a mastermind like Jigsaw or something, where the focus is more on the setup and the scheme, rather than reacting to a situation on a personal level at the time. But I don't know of a reason to worry about this, as what I've read and seen so far seems like Jason has the same kind of skill set as he has in the previous films

[Spook]

Where did your friend get the impression that Jason would "going to be more intelligent, and be doing more complex things such as setting elaborate traps, and capturing / torturing people, rather than just jumping out and taking people down with simple attacks"? The thought never crossed my mind. I always figured Jason would be, as Darth Sinister put it, more of a Rambo type character and I'm perfectly fine with that. It makes him scarier.

[HeavyMetalNinja]

Exactly - I think my friend's mistaken, he got this impression just from the original trailer. Maybe the style of the shooting, and perhaps because of recent gorror movies, he thinks perhaps they will have a different style of Jason this time, I don't know. I wondered if there was info on this that had been released, what kind of approach Jason has - but I'm not personally worried

[Cody]

On the Set of Friday the 13th (http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=8261)

Interview: His Name IS Jason (http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=8248)

Interview: Supernatural Star Goes to Camp Blood (http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=8255)

[francesco]

thanks cody.

i just hope they'll change their mind about the ending!

[Cody]

Dread Central (http://www.dreadcentral.com/story/exclusive-friday-13th-set-visit-report)

B-D (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/14138)

and JoBlo (http://www.joblo.com/set-friday-the-13th)

also have their set reports up. Other sites might as well, keep your eyes peeled.

[Just Jeans]

People worried about Jason torturing his victims should be assured by that set visit report.

[TheShowstoppa]

I saw the trailer today and I've been avoiding this forum or - more paticularly this thread - like the plague. Let me tell you - I'm am reassured by this trailer and the interviews I've read that this movie will be far and beyond the BEST Friday the 13th movie put forth into production thus far. I can hardly wait for February just to see this movie - the 3rd I can say I've seen in theaters since I was born. :) God love America for movies where the anti-hero is cheared for beheading victims for their wrong-doings! :) /Geek-gasm

[francesco]

i'm only scared about the finale.
platinum dunes cut the leatherface arm at the end of TCR. i don't wanna they'll make the same to jason.
he's the father of sequels.

[Cody]

A couple new pictures and a talk with Fuller & Form at MTV (http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1598153/story.jhtml).

[VoorheesGuy91]

I saw the trailer today and I've been avoiding this forum or - more paticularly this thread - like the plague. Let me tell you - I'm am reassured by this trailer and the interviews I've read that this movie will be far and beyond the BEST Friday the 13th movie put forth into production thus far. I can hardly wait for February just to see this movie - the 3rd I can say I've seen in theaters since I was born. :) God love America for movies where the anti-hero is cheared for beheading victims for their wrong-doings! :) /Geek-gasm

:funky::funky::funky:

[HeavyMetalNinja]

People worried about Jason torturing his victims should be assured by that set visit report.

It says that one of Jason's victims was chained up - that doesn't sound good to me:

"Clay and Jenna descend down into Jason’s tunnels and proceed to find one of Jason’s victims. Clay then grabs a nearby hammer and breaks the chain holding the person captive"

Captive? Why's he keeping people captive now?

[The Dark Vampire]

It says that one of Jason's victims was chained up - that doesn't sound good to me:

"Clay and Jenna descend down into Jason’s tunnels and proceed to find one of Jason’s victims. Clay then grabs a nearby hammer and breaks the chain holding the person captive"

Captive? Why's he keeping people captive now?

It could be more setting people up to find them and then kill them when they do

[HeavyMetalNinja]

Yeah that's a possibility. I love everything else in those articles!

[Just Jeans]

It says that

It also says that this film avoids the torture porn aspects of a lot of modern horror films.

Why's he keeping people captive now?

One girl is apparently held by Jason because she closely resembles his mother when she was young.

But apart from that, I imagine he might hold people captive to use as bait.

[HeavyMetalNinja]

It also says that this film avoids the torture porn aspects of a lot of modern horror films.

That's right, I was relieved to read that. But it still seems like something new for Jason to be doing, even if he's not using torture, and I'm not sure I like the sounds of it - obviously have to wait and see

[Just Jeans]

I'm pretty easy going about Jason, because without change the character would begin to stagnate and get boring. He's changed slightly throughout the films, so I don't really care what they have him do (as long as he's not doing outright ridiculous shit, like raping the corpses of his victims, or torturing people in a Hostel-like fashion. Anything else, for me, is fair game.)

[Jigsaw]

I'm open to a slightly different Jason than from what we've seen in the original series, so long as the reboot is true to the character and mythos. I like that the writers are focused on making him a sympathetic yet menacing figure, and making him more in-tune with raw survival skills and instincts for this film.

[VoorheesGuy91]

I'm open to a slightly different Jason than from what we've seen in the original series, so long as the reboot is true to the character and mythos. I like that the writers are focused on making him a sympathetic yet menacing figure, and making him more in-tune with raw survival skills and instincts for this film.

Your absolutley correct...

[Penhall]

Everything I've read about this movie sounds like it'll be a soft-core porn flick with Jason thrown in. I just don't think the nudity and drug use that the writers/producers talk up in EVERY SINGLE interview they give on the movie is such an important ingredient. Sure, throw some in there, but dont go overboard. Sounds like they did with this movie....and I dont think thats a good thing.

But hey, what the hell do I know? Just my two cents....

[HeavyMetalNinja]

Yeah I don't think it's a key ingredient at all. I can understand that it is interesting to see the atmosphere go from people partying and having sex, to suddenly being murdered. But you only need to set that up for it to work, you don't need to dwell on it

[Lammert]

E I just don't think the nudity and drug use that the writers/producers talk up in EVERY SINGLE interview they give on the movie is such an important ingredient. .

I also hate this... it's not the essence of F13.

Did these guys even watch Friday 1 till 4 recently???

[JP's Revenge]

Everything I've read about this movie sounds like it'll be a soft-core porn flick with Jason thrown in. I just don't think the nudity and drug use that the writers/producers talk up in EVERY SINGLE interview they give on the movie is such an important ingredient. Sure, throw some in there, but dont go overboard. Sounds like they did with this movie....and I dont think thats a good thing.

But hey, what the hell do I know? Just my two cents....

I'd take it with a grain of salt... just producers/actors saying exactly what they THINK people want to hear.

Jim Isaac also told us that Jason X was gonna be the bloodiest Jason movie ever made... yet the only gruesome thing about that movie was the dialogue. (okay, maybe the frozen-face smash was cool).

[Spook]

Yeah, I don't really think the nudity is "essential' to the franchise. I mean, I love the stuff. But if I really wanted to see a lot of it, I'd just watch porn. Look at Jason Lives. I don't believe there is any nudity in that film, and it worked. It's one of my favorites, too.

[TheShowstoppa]

Look at Jason Goes to Hell - That had probably the closest thing to softcore porn I've seen in a movie other than Basic Instinct and look how that turned out. "We need more tits and ass and more sex," they say, but really - WE DON'T! I want to see Jason hack a few people up for a few hours and that's good. I don't need the sex scenes and all that. A little storyline that DOESN'T suck is good, but aside from that... I came to see Jason.

[HeavyMetalNinja]

I came to see Jason.

I saw Jason, then I came

[The Dream Master]

Yeah, but you've got to admit it: that death scene in JGTH was fucking awesome. Plus, I can't imagine anyone blaming that film's quality on that one scene alone (in fact, I figured that would be a scene that just about everyone would like from that one, seeing as how pretty much everyone hates the film in general).

[Chex]

Friday the 13th 1-4 has several key elements:

Chase scene with final girl
Dueling violins in the score
Slow mention death kill at the end with trumpets blaring
POV shots
Body count
Tits and Ass shots
Drugs and Beer

All of those are incorporated in the films somewhat (I don't believe there was nudity in the first film though) and make up those four flicks. If this is to be along the lines of that, and if you really want something that is completely a remake of those films in all their elements, then each of those is needed.

It's not a remake of part six or eight or even ten. Leave out the elements that were in those movies since they're something else completely and they aren't the films that are being remade.

(in fact, I figured that would be a scene that just about everyone would like from that one, seeing as how pretty much everyone hates the film in general).
After seeing it again recently, I actually enjoy it. Jason had already evolved from what he was, his powers had already somewhat changed, the timeline and continuity had already been changed back and forth, the tone of the films had been moved around that I don't care anymore that the ninth entry also decides to follow suit.

The other films aren't exactly high art, they're riddled with problems in continuity let alone what actually happened to Jason, the man himself had changed appearances several times and even travelled back in time to attack someone in the clothes he just stole (ok fine, that's just bad continuity), he can teleport, generate new weapons to kill folks with that by the time I see another different looking Jason with a new power, I don't give two shits. The story actually involved Jason and not some new teen that that particular change was interesting more so than the past few others.

[SlasherFreak]

"We need more tits and ass and more sex," they say, but really - WE DON'T! I want to see Jason hack a few people up for a few hours and that's good.

Yeah, but you gotta admit its awesome to see Jason hacking up some naked slutty whores :D:p

[The Dark Vampire]

Yeah, but you gotta admit its awesome to see Jason hacking up some naked slutty whores :D:p

I honestly totally disagree there is the sex/nudity is as bad as what I've heard I'll never even bother watching it

[HeavyMetalNinja]

It's never reciprocated. I want to see naked Jason cut up a woman in a jumpsuit

[SlasherFreak]

I honestly totally disagree there is the sex/nudity is as bad as what I've heard I'll never even bother watching it

You would miss a fresh new Jason flick cause of a little bit of boobies and a bit of hiney?

I dont know what to say, but to each his own.

It's never reciprocated. I want to see naked Jason cut up a woman in a jumpsuit

:lmao::D:p

[Darth Sinister]

Yeah, but you've got to admit it: that death scene in JGTH was fucking awesome. Plus, I can't imagine anyone blaming that film's quality on that one scene alone (in fact, I figured that would be a scene that just about everyone would like from that one, seeing as how pretty much everyone hates the film in general).

In fact, that scene was put in there because test audiences wanted it in there. So, really, fans back then wanted to see teens having sex and then dying, while in the woods. The one time the "Have sex and die" mantra was not included and fans had a fit.

All of those are incorporated in the films somewhat (I don't believe there was nudity in the first film though) and make up those four flicks. If this is to be along the lines of that, and if you really want something that is completely a remake of those films in all their elements, then each of those is needed.

There was nudity in the first film. Marcie's breasts and Jack's butt. Second film had Terri's skinny dipping. Third film had Debbie's shower scene. Fourth film had the most. Two skinny dipping scenes and an old stag film. We had pot being smoked on screen in three of the four films, with the fourth film relying on alcohol consumption. Beer and wine was consumed in nearly every film. The fifth and eighth films had cocaine. Pot was smoked in 1-3, 5, 7 and FvsJ. They also featured alcohol. It was alluded to in JGTH. Only JL and JX had no booze or drugs.

[Cody]

JL ... had no booze

If you're only talking about the counselors. Martin was pretty good with the booze, and Steven & Annette were drinking.

[sCabbOy]

And let's not forget Martin the caretaker- that guy sweated booze.

[Chex]

There was nudity in the first film. Marcie's breasts and Jack's butt. Second film had Terri's skinny dipping. Third film had Debbie's shower scene. Fourth film had the most. Two skinny dipping scenes and an old stag film. We had pot being smoked on screen in three of the four films, with the fourth film relying on alcohol consumption. Beer and wine was consumed in nearly every film. The fifth and eighth films had cocaine. Pot was smoked in 1-3, 5, 7 and FvsJ. They also featured alcohol. It was alluded to in JGTH. Only JL and JX had no booze or drugs.

Like I said, anything past 4 isn't really of concern here, but I couldn't recall if we saw tits in the first film or not. I thought we saw Bacon's ass, unfortunately, but that works out as it stands then that the first four films all follow those element guidelines.

The remake should mix match some stuff. Give me some dueling violin scores while tits are flashed in slow motion or something.

[Just Jeans]

I watched Friday the 13th two nights ago.

During the scene with Jack and Marcie getting it on, I was like, "And people on the forum are complaining about some tits and ass in the new film?" It just kept lingering on them, longer and longer, until finally I was starting to wonder if they were ever going to cut away from this teenage love fest. And finally they did cut away... to a game of strip Monopoly.

The first film is literally oozing sexuality. I had to mop the disc dry when I took it out of the PC (although, admittedly, that could have had something to do with Steve and his fly 'tache and bitchin' short-shorts).

[sCabbOy]

I do differentiate between nudity, and explicit. Some nude scenes are just distasteful and generally that's the nudity that I can do without.

[Just Jeans]

I probably could have done without the 30 second extreme close-up of Marcie kneading Bacon's ass.

But I wouldn't lose Steve strutting around in his sexy short-shorts for all the money in the world. That's classy stuff, ladies and gentlemen.

[Sean [The Wildcard]]

Excerpt from INT. Platinum Dunes (http://joblo.com/arrow/index.php?id=14279):

You mention the scariness... the thing that made the first two movies so great was the score. That's what the scare was. Are you guys going for that same fear?

AF: Yeah. There would be no FRIDAY THE 13TH movie without that iconic music, so we've already licensed that music.

Great. FREDDY VS JASON went for more of a hard rock type of score... and it didn't really work.

AF: I think this movie is definitely more classic horror. Even though it's 2009, it feels classic horror.

BF: But our composer we've worked with on almost all of our films, he's well versed in this area and that was what we were looking for. He did the scores for both CHAINSAW and AMITYVILLE, it felt classic and they were referential of the original scores so we're going in that direction here.

Would you say this is like, sort of like John Ottman doing John Williams for SUPERMAN RETURNS? Do you guys take care of Manfredini’s score or...?

BF: No, it's not that specific. Certainly the theme...

AF: The theme has been licensed and of course, the Jason POV and when you hear that theme there's no doubt. We've licensed that and that is in the film. I'm sure [composer] Steve Jablonsky will draw from that. It's an iconic score, it's very strong, there's no reason not too.

[Spook]

That's good to hear. I love the music from the original films.

[The Dark Vampire]

You would miss a fresh new Jason flick cause of a little bit of boobies and a bit of hiney?

I dont know what to say, but to each his own.


Yeah I would I have mentioned it here before but I really hate sex/nudity in movies even more than bad acting-story/writing or directing

[sCabbOy]

The main thing that bit my ass about the nudity is the fact (at one time) it was said that the nudity alone would give it an NC-17 rating. To me that is TOO much when it will get an X (same as NC-17) rating. It's a horror movie first and foremost. Let's eave the softcore porn to Misty Mundae horror flicks.

[Darth Sinister]

If you're only talking about the counselors. Martin was pretty good with the booze, and Steven & Annette were drinking.

Right. I was refering to the councilers, not Martin and the others.

But I wouldn't lose Steve strutting around in his sexy short-shorts for all the money in the world. That's classy stuff, ladies and gentlemen.

Okay. :shifty:

:p

BF: But our composer we've worked with on almost all of our films, he's well versed in this area and that was what we were looking for. He did the scores for both CHAINSAW and AMITYVILLE, it felt classic and they were referential of the original scores so we're going in that direction here.

Would you say this is like, sort of like John Ottman doing John Williams for SUPERMAN RETURNS? Do you guys take care of Manfredini’s score or...?

BF: No, it's not that specific. Certainly the theme...

AF: The theme has been licensed and of course, the Jason POV and when you hear that theme there's no doubt. We've licensed that and that is in the film. I'm sure [composer] Steve Jablonsky will draw from that. It's an iconic score, it's very strong, there's no reason not too.

So in other words, we'll hear the Manfredini sound and maybe that little bit of music like in the trailer, but we won't hear a reuse of the cues from the early films.

The main thing that bit my ass about the nudity is the fact (at one time) it was said that the nudity alone would give it an NC-17 rating. To me that is TOO much when it will get an X (same as NC-17) rating. It's a horror movie first and foremost. Let's eave the softcore porn to Misty Mundae horror flicks.

I like Misty. :D

But, I think it's not so much the nudity as the amount on screen. You can get a hard R and still have a lot of nudity in it, like "Showgirls". But it depends on if there is full frontal male nudity and possibly how intense looking the sex scenes are, which would determine the rating. In the last 18 years, more R rated films come out like an NC-17 film, before edits take it to an R. And we're not just talking about horror films. We're talking mainstream films with big name actors.

[Spook]

You can get a hard R and still have a lot of nudity in it, like "Showgirls".

But Showgirls was rated NC-17.

[Darth Sinister]

There was also an R rated cut that was released, though on VHS.

[Hockey Mask]

Friday the 13th IS Jason, hockey mask, machete, drugs, booze and nudity. It's got to have them.

[sCabbOy]

eh, I guess to the mainstream that is what Friday The 13th is. For me, it's more the atmosphere 1-5 captured than Jason. Regardless if people admit it Jason was not the star of 1-5, the leading man and woman was.

[francesco]

has been the new friday rated???

[The Dark Vampire]

Friday the 13th IS Jason, hockey mask, machete, drugs, booze and nudity. It's got to have them.

I would agree with hockey mask, machete to a point but not start ff with them but I disagree with drugs, booze and nudity they are really not needed at all and I don't wish to see it

[Rick]

Drugs and nudity is part of the basic formula for the series.
Part 6 is the only one not to have nudity, and it was great (IMO) so there are exceptions to the rule.
But if they are trying to recapture the basics of the first 4 they are going to go with the basic formula.
I just hope that there is going to be an unmasking scene, that was part of the formula for the first 4 movies too, but I'm not holding my breath.

[VoorheesGuy91]

I would agree with hockey mask, machete to a point but not start ff with them but I disagree with drugs, booze and nudity they are really not needed at all and I don't wish to see it

But what you don't seem to understand is that F13 are formula films...Sex, Drugs, and a maniac with a hockey mask and a machette = Friday the 13th. You seem to be soooooooo hung up on nudity and booze, but you act as if the predeccesor's didn't contain any of the above. If you love these films, than just take it with a grain of salt and move on ;)

[The Dark Vampire]

But what you don't seem to understand is that F13 are formula films...Sex, Drugs, and a maniac with a hockey mask and a machette = Friday the 13th. You seem to be soooooooo hung up on nudity and booze, but you act as if the predeccesor's didn't contain any of the above. If you love these films, than just take it with a grain of salt and move on ;)

I wouldn't say I love them it's been at least 3 years since I last watched one (with the exception of FvsJ) I like them but I wouldn't even list any of them (again with the exception of FvsJ) in my top 100 movies.

On a side note after FvsJ my favourite is 6 which hardly has any sex/nudity in it.

I was always disliked the sex/nudity in the old ones it's one of the reasons I don't watch them that often and also one of the reasons I prefer NOES is the lack of it (I would list all NOES in my top 100 with the exception of New Nightmare)

[VoorheesGuy91]

I wouldn't say I love them it's been at least 3 years since I last watched one (with the exception of FvsJ) I like them but I wouldn't even list any of them (again with the exception of FvsJ) in my top 100 movies.

On a side note after FvsJ my favourite is 6 which hardly has any sex/nudity in it.

I was always disliked the sex/nudity in the old ones it's one of the reasons I don't watch them that often and also one of the reasons I prefer NOES is the lack of it (I would list all NOES in my top 100 with the exception of New Nightmare)

And yet you roam around on a F13 forum :confused:...I'm not trying to flame you but it is a little strange.

[Just Jeans]

And yet you roam around on a F13 forum

The sum total of the parts makes this place a lot more than just a Friday the 13th forum.

I'd say I spend less than 10% of my time on this forum in the Friday the 13th sections. I joined the original forum way back when Jason X was on the cusp of release (or, rather, on the cusp of being shelved for ages), but as time goes on I find myself more interested in the forum's other sections.

At the end of the day, one can only discuss "Does Jason poop?" or "Just what happened to Paul anyway?" for so long before it begins to grow dull or turn circular.

[The Dark Vampire]

I don't even think of this place as a F13th forum I think of it as the forum where I chat with my friends up until a few weeks ago I can't even remember making a post in the F13th section

[HeavyMetalNinja]

I like Jason more than I like the films definitely, he's the attraction, I don't really rate the films. I love his character though

[Dream Master]

For me nudity + sex are essencial in a "Friday" movie. It never bothered me, the exactly opposite. Maybe 'cause I'm from Brazil and here we are less puritans :p

And I'm a fan of "Friday the 13th" more than I'm of Jason. That's why I don't like "JGHT" and "JX", they are just Jason movies.
ADDED:
Oh, and part 6 is my least favorite. I'd watch "Jason takes Manhattan" over "JL" anyday. Actually, this is a really entertaining movie.
How can you guys watch Jason smashing the guy's face into the tree and let a "blood smile" on it? Lame.

Give me some dueling violin scores while tits are flashed in slow motion or something.

The only worry I have is the score. If it's not similar to Manfredini's, it'll never feels like a true "Friday".

[Jigsaw]

How can you guys watch Jason smashing the guy's face into the tree and let a "blood smile" on it? Lame.


Well that's all your opinion. In my opinion it's lamer to see Jason seeing his face on a big billboard or taking hits from a boxer and only retaliating at the last moment or scaring a gang of punks away instead of wasting them like the old-school Jason would have.

[SlasherFreak]

both of them had their faults, and i like JL waaayyy better than JTM...

but still....

i have to agree with DM that the smiley face in the blood thing was just laughable and unnecessary

[Jigsaw]

It never bothered me much, I think a lot of people blow that way out of proportion. The humor in JTM and JX was painful to sit through for me (although I felt JTM was okay up until the last third when they left the ship, from there it just becomes cheesy and not in a good way, IMO).

[sCabbOy]

It actually turned that scene from "reality" to cartoon" in one second for me. Hard to take a horror film seriously with shit like that.

[SlasherFreak]

It actually turned that scene from "reality" to cartoon" in one second for me. Hard to take a horror film seriously with shit like that.

Haha, you got it worse than me then. For me, reality started slipping when they played that silly score when we're first introduced to the paintballers. I rather woulda had no score during those scenes. The silly smiley face in the blood was just the poopcake under the icing the score applied :D

[Just Jeans]

How can you guys watch Jason smashing the guy's face into the tree and let a "blood smile" on it? Lame.

If I was the type who'd let one particularly corny moment ruin an entire film for me, I'd have never made it past the original. I would have tuned out the moment Steve sauntered up in his intense short-shorts and tried to lay his awkward mating moves on Alice. :X

It actually turned that scene from "reality" to cartoon" in one second for me...

Whereas a putrefied corpse getting hit by a bolt of lightening and reanimating didn't shake the walls of reality at all? :doggy:

I mean don't get me wrong, I'm no big fan of the smiley face in the tree, but I think a little perspective is in order.

[Dream Master]

If I was the type who'd let one particularly corny moment ruin an entire film for me, I'd have never made it past the original.

But, in my opinion, the whole movie feels like a joke, something that I don't see in any other "Friday" ( except for JX, that I hate ). Ok, "JTM" has it funny parts, but for me, the movie as a whole is better and take itself more seriously than "JL".

[SlasherFreak]

I dont think it ruined the movie for me. I still like JL, imo, it's the last good film of the series.

Im never one to say something can ruin a movie. especially an ending. If I like the direction of a movie, photography, dialougue, acting...but it has a shitty ending, I'll still probably end up viewing it multiple times...

I can think of one movie off hand though, a movie in which i have no shame in saying the ending totally ruined the entire movie.

....

Ready?


F7 - The New Blood.


I mean....



Come on now.

[sCabbOy]

Whereas a putrefied corpse getting hit by a bolt of lightening and reanimating didn't shake the walls of reality at all? :doggy:

I mean don't get me wrong, I'm no big fan of the smiley face in the tree, but I think a little perspective is in order.


Well, I ain't talking about reality. At least a corpse being reanimated by electricity has more horror than a bloody "Have a nice day" smiley face on a tree does. :duh:

It reminded me a lot of (well this reminded me of that) the part in Forrest Gump where he gets splashed with mud and wipes his faqce with that man's shirt.
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/5287/fg0882kz9.jpg (http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fg0882kz9.jpg)
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[Utellme]

I did not want to make a new thread for this so ill ask here if its cool. If there is to be another F13th movie after this installment.Where does it go human or zombie Jason ? Crystal Lake ? Prequel ?


If there is another movie i want a snow scene damn it. Thats all i ask and i would like a prequel idea also.

[Just Jeans]

It reminded me a lot of (well this reminded me of that) the part in Forrest Gump where he gets splashed with mud and wipes his faqce with that man's shirt.

I thought it was a painfully corny joke in Forest Gump, too. But I didn't let it ruin the entire film for me.

[SaturdayThe14th]

"Pot was smoked in 1-3, 5, 7 and FvsJ. They also featured alcohol. It was alluded to in JGTH."

You forgot about Ted in part 4. i'm pretty sure he was smokin' a joint while watching the old stag film. and while he was sitting on the couch with one of the twins, i forget there names and which is which.

[Darth Sinister]

Ah, yes. Teddy was smoking. Anyway, my point still stands. It happened a lot in the series.

[sCabbOy]

I thought it was a painfully corny joke in Forest Gump, too. But I didn't let it ruin the entire film for me.

True, but at the same time Forrest Gump was a very comic-esque movie that had a lot of corny jokes as such. So, it really played with the movie well.

[Lance Lives]

Okay, I've been seeing a ton of heat aimed at the face in the tree kill from Jason Lives lately and I don't understand. I always took that kill as being, there was a smiley face carved into a tree and Jason just happened to smash some poor fella's face into it. Sure, it's not funny, but it's not that big of a deal IMO. Is that what everybody else got out of the scene, or am I viewing it different?

[The Dream Master]

That's how I've always viewed it as well. It'd be different if the dude's face literally left that smiley face impression in the tree (as was the case with the scene in Forrest Gump), but I don't think that's what was intended.

[Utellme]

Okay, I've been seeing a ton of heat aimed at the face in the tree kill from Jason Lives lately and I don't understand. I always took that kill as being, there was a smiley face carved into a tree and Jason just happened to smash some poor fella's face into it. Sure, it's not funny, but it's not that big of a deal IMO. Is that what everybody else got out of the scene, or am I viewing it different?

I see it the same way you do lance.But people like to pull that one scene out of the movie and that ruined the whole movie and that it made the whole movie as a comedy hour. I don't get it the movie had no more cheese comedy than any of the other 10 installments. The movie had awesome settings and action,music im not saying everyone has to like this movie. But to beat it down for 1 scene seems overkill. And i think the same as you how do we know that face was not carved there all ready.

[Lance Lives]

Okay, it's good to know I'm not the only one who sees it that way. I was always amazed that some people actually thought it was meant that the face left that in the tree. IF that was the case, it would be absolutely ridiculous. That scene in no way ruins the film for me...what about the badass scene where Jason emerges triumphant from the R.V.? What about Jason versus Tommy in the middle of Crystal Lake? There's far more good in that installment IMO.

[SlasherFreak]

i dont think the scene ruined the whole movie, it's my fifth favorite friday. i just think the scene was out of place

[Culp]

It was no where near as cringe worthy as the dialogue exchange between the two boys hiding under the bed. *shudder*

[VoorheesGuy91]

It was no where near as cringe worthy as the dialogue exchange between the two boys hiding under the bed. *shudder*

"Dead Meat"...:lol:

[Just Jeans]

I always took that kill as being, there was a smiley face carved into a tree and Jason just happened to smash some poor fella's face into it.

I used to rationalize it the same way. Indeed, it seems logical. I've carved images into the bare flesh of a tree trunk and the bark has grown back over it.

The only problem with this justification is that the smiley appears to have been carved directly beneath the jagged remains of a branch, which doesn't make much sense.

[Jigsaw]

Looking back, I like Jason's look in this film a lot so far with the exception of two things: the hair and the clean fingernails. IMO, he looks a lot cooler with the black and pointy fingernails like he had in TFC and also can be seen with in JL and TNB.

[DRE]

There's nothing like black fingernails. And those toenails have got to look something awful as well. Can you imagine the smell in those shoes?

[Jigsaw]

Ick, not to mention the infection that must've set in :X

[Lammert]

I remember when the first pictures of Jason X were released, everybody loved the look... and now everybody seems to hate Jason's look in it.

[Jigsaw]

I hated Jason's JX look from the second I saw the first-released stills from the film.

[Just Jeans]

I remember when the first pictures of Jason X were released, everybody loved the look... and now everybody seems to hate Jason's look in it.

I still like the look -- the only hock I own is based on the Jason X mask -- but it hasn't aged well for me. And I do think the over-all look worked better in the initial still photos (particularly in this one (http://www.fridaythe13thfilms.com/multimedia/pictures/partx/jasonx1a.jpg) and this one (http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper1146/stills/3cd07d46d25cf-87-1.jpg)) than in execution.

I've always been fine with the costume, but as time wears on I grow less keen with Kane's performance in the film (and I'm not one of the Usual Suspects who hate Kane, I just don't think his performance in that film has aged well.)

[Jigsaw]

Kane's performance in JX is IMO the weakest Jason performance in the series. The opening scene with the eye movement and the anger in the frozen face smash kill aside, I found his JX performance to be bland, dull and like he was going through the motions and not putting any real effort or passion into it like he did with TNB, which IMO remains his only truly great Jason performance to date.

[Just Jeans]

I think I feel mostly the same, yeah. It does feel a bit like Kane was phoning it in; there was very little of the aggression we saw in The New Blood or Jason Goes to Hell, and what even the little moments of stoic menace he'd managed to pull off in Jason Takes Manhattan had practically evaporated by the time he did Jason X. I sometimes wonder if it's because he got too comfortable in the role, and that ease with which he wore the mask translated into a more mellow performance.

That's why I've never been especially annoyed by Kane's removal from the franchise. I mean it certainly could have been handled better, but by the time Jason Goes to Hell had come and gone, I thought it was time for a new interpretation.

[Jigsaw]

I feel largely the same way, and I think his less than stellar JX performance could've been for the reasons you've given. I felt he gave a very menacing and aggressive performance in TNB, but with JTM he got very robotic and stiff, though he did put some anger into a few of the kills. JGTH he seemed too much like a wrestler and out of character with him not just killing Steven right away, and in JX he just became too stiff for my liking. To be honest, I doubt Kane playing Jason in FVJ would've differed much from Ken Kirzinger's take and would've likely been an extension of his robotic performances in either JTM or JX.

[Just Jeans]

His approach to engaging Steven was probably my favorite thing in Jason Goes to Hell. Given the circumstances, can you blame Jason for opting to enjoy it a bit before laying down the kill?

I mean put yourself in Jason's shoes. This wormy guy has been giving you shit through the course of the entire film, helping spur on your need to hop from body to body, constantly prolonging your eventual rebirth. This dude is the annoying little thorn in your side, the proverbial itch that you just can't scratch.

Finally you achive your goal and are reborn as the genuine article, and in your moment of triumph here comes that little douche bag that's been pecking at you like a bird throughout the entire film, and goddamn it he just has to tackle you through a plate glass window. But at least now you can face him on your terms, and holy shit its gonna feel good kicking this punk's sex-having ass.

I'm not sure I'd consider that out of character -- it's not really that different from stalking them around for ages before killing them. He's still toying with his victim, he's just being a little more proactive about it. :D

[Jigsaw]

I just can't imagine the predatory Jason of TFC, JL or TNB wasting time toying with Steven and not just killing him right away. Jason always seemed like the type of killer to quickly kill and get it over with (another reason why at times he seemed out of character in JTM, with some of his torturous kills like with Suzy and Tamara).

[Just Jeans]

I just can't imagine the predatory Jason of TFC, JL or TNB wasting time toying with Steven and not just killing him right away.

Well that's the thing -- he's not really the same Jason from any of those films, because every version of Jason has been envisioned slightly different.

I mean I couldn't envision any of the Jason's you mentioned standing on a chair with a pitchfork raised over his head waiting for Ginny to crawl out from under a bed. The Final Chapter Jason would have pinned her to the floor through the bed with the pitch fork, Jason Lives Jason would have waited outside for her and snatched her as she tried to leave, and The New Blood Jason would have ripped the mattress off the bed and then pinned her to the floor with the pitchfork.

(another reason why at times he seemed out of character in JTM, with some of his torturous kills like with Suzy and Tamara)

I think the (painfully slow) crushing of the skull against the shower wall in The Final Chapter is way more torturous than either of those deaths (the spear gun to the crotch runs a pretty close second).

He's always struck me as more nasty in The Final Chapter than in any of the other films by a long chalk.

[Jigsaw]

I think he was at his cruelest in both TFC and JTM, though I'm torn which he was the worst in. Certainly he was a barbaric and beastly bastard in TFC, but in JTM he seemed to relish the Hell out of giving most of the victims a slow and agonizing death like he did with Suzy, Tamara and McCulloch, and with the way he was letting Julius punch him over and over, it's like he was laughing off how indestructible he'd become and how nothing seemed to affect him at all. In TFC he was hands down the angriest though, and it seemed like while he was to the point with his kills there, he made sure everyone suffered terribly in the short amount of time he took to kill them.

[DRE]

I have always maintained that Hodder was stale and too comfortable and too aware of his traits (He started to force his breathing and other actions instead of letting them come naturally) by Jason X, and it was his worst performance as the character, and tied with Kirzinger for worst overall Jason, IMO.

I believe he would have returned to effort in FvsJ, simply because he would have had Robert there to play off of, but that's just me.

[Jigsaw]

We'll never know how FVJ would've turned out with Kane. Maybe he would've been better or maybe he wouldn't have, we'll never know.

[DRE]

Technically, I'm glad Kane Hodder wasn't in that abortion we got called Freddy vs. Jason, I only wish Robert had joined him in not being in it.

[Jigsaw]

At least Robert was a bright spot in the film. You can tell he had a blast reprising the role for the first time in close to a decade.

[DRE]

He is the ONLY reason I keep returning to that film, though I can totally do without a few of the lines they gave the poor guy.

[Jigsaw]

I still can't stand "Got your nose" :X I don't blame him for that line or some of Freddy's hammier moments in the film.

[DRE]

Actually, and I love that man like a father, I do blame Robert for bringing back some of that hammy Freddy's Dead shtick in the "Jason pinball" scene. It was his choice to play it sinister or over the top, Yu didn't have a leash on Englund like he did poor Ken Kirzinger.

[Jigsaw]

I have to rewatch FVJ someday along with the DVD special features to see that. Ken definitely got the short end of the stick with FVJ when it came to how he wanted to portray Jason and how Yu chose to do it.

[DRE]

That I will agree with.

[Jigsaw]

A combination of Ronny Yu and Stokely Chaffin is what interfered with Ken's performance in FVJ.

[DRE]

That combination of people is what screwed up the whole film, period.

[Jigsaw]

Indeed. But I think Stokely Chaffin was the main kiss of death for FVJ and any chance it had of being great.

[VoorheesGuy91]

My position on Kane not being involved in Freddy vs. Jason will always be this...while I was never crazy about Kane's portrayal of Jason from the start (although I did find him to be pretty menacing overall in TNB), I just felt that he had become the "face" of Jason. One actor who had stuck with the role and for the most part appreciated it. In Freddy versus Jason, I would bet my house that Robert Englund would advocate for his character if he felt that something was out of character or something that he just didn't feel was right etc. I believe that if Kane had been there, he would have been the voice (no pun intended) of Jason. An individual who cared about the role and the character's well-being. I feel like Ken Kirzinger was just doing it to get a paycheck. He didn't care how Jason was envisioned etc, he was just there to do what he had to do. I do believe in my heart of hearts that if Kane had played Jason, we would have definatley got a more intense Jason as opposed to the oversized turtle that he was. Kane would have known that the fans would be pissed with the kind of Jason that we got in FvJ, and I guarantee that he would have done his best to have changed that. But I guess that we'll never know...

[NW77]

I disagree that Ken did it just for the paycheck. He has play Jason a little before in JTM, so maybe he wanted to play him again when Kane wasn't going to return. Beside, wouldn't you say Kane did it for the paycheck too with playing the role 4 times? Again, Ken never did it for the paycheck. Where do people get that crappy idea that he did it just for that? Beside, it's a job & you get pay for that. What the problem with that? :p

And I think Ken do care about the character more than you think, VoorheesGuy91. It just Yu didn't give him the creative freedom like he gave to Englund. DRE mention many times before that Ken has his own vision of wanting to play Jason while using part of Hodder's manner. I think he would've look a lot better if Yu gave him the chance & many wouldn't trash his performance. Heck, I met Ken last month & he said almost the same thing as DRE mention.

[Just Jeans]

I believe he would have returned to effort in FvsJ...

I doubt whether Kane would have done it much differently in Freddy vs Jason. The interpretation of the character was the director's decision in that film more so than the actor's. Either Kane would have played it the way Ronny Yu wanted, or Yu would have found someone else (Kane's propensity for dictating what the character would or wouldn't do may play a part in why he was let go right at the beginning).

Where do people get that crappy idea that he did it just for that?

Slamming Ken by any means necessary seems to be a popular pastime in Friday fandom, particularly on the IMDB forum (and other forums of its ilk). I didn't really notice it at the time of release, but in the last couple of years it has become more apparent. It's a pity, because I think Ken did the best he could with what he had (and I particularly liked his look in the film, which also seems to be a controversial viewpoint). He's taking a lot of fan flack that should be aimed at the film's director.

[VoorheesGuy91]

I doubt whether Kane would have done it much differently in Freddy vs Jason. The interpretation of the character was the director's decision in that film more so than the actor's. Either Kane would have played it the way Ronny Yu wanted, or Yu would have found someone else (Kane's propensity for dictating what the character would or wouldn't do may play a part in why he was let go right at the beginning).



Slamming Ken by any means necessary seems to be a popular pastime in Friday fandom, particularly on the IMDB forum (and other forums of its ilk). I didn't really notice it at the time of release, but in the last couple of years it has become more apparent. It's a pity, because I think Ken did the best he could with what he had (and I particularly liked his look in the film, which also seems to be a controversial viewpoint). He's taking a lot of fan flack that should be aimed at the film's director.

I often wonder as to whether that was a possibility as well. Maybe New Line was aware that Yu had a specific vision in mind for Jason and Kane's return to the role could have caused some "unnecessary" (In New Line's eye's ofcourse) issues.

When it comes to Ken's look in FvJ, I am one of the rare fanboy's who digg it. I don't know why but I really like that specific look.

As for Ken taking the heat for Yu, I guess that I agree to an extent. Yu was the ringleader who had the final say as to what Jason was going to be like in the film. So I guess that we should all turn our guns on Yu :funky:.

[DRE]

I disagree that Ken did it just for the paycheck. He has play Jason a little before in JTM, so maybe he wanted to play him again when Kane wasn't going to return. Beside, wouldn't you say Kane did it for the paycheck too with playing the role 4 times? Again, Ken never did it for the paycheck. Where do people get that crappy idea that he did it just for that? Beside, it's a job & you get pay for that. What the problem with that? :p

And I think Ken do care about the character more than you think, VoorheesGuy91. It just Yu didn't give him the creative freedom like he gave to Englund. DRE mention many times before that Ken has his own vision of wanting to play Jason while using part of Hodder's manner. I think he would've look a lot better if Yu gave him the chance & many wouldn't trash his performance. Heck, I met Ken last month & he said almost the same thing as DRE mention.

I agree with this NW, I never once believed that Ken took the role just for the paycheck, and I do believe he cared for the character and tried to do the best he could with what Ronny Yu allowed him to do. Any problems I had with that version of Jason in FvsJ (Outside of body structure) were not Ken Kirzinger's fault, I have always maintained that he was personally a great guy from what I've seen. He was definitely more humble and good natured than Hodder was at the time.



I doubt whether Kane would have done it much differently in Freddy vs Jason. The interpretation of the character was the director's decision in that film more so than the actor's. Either Kane would have played it the way Ronny Yu wanted, or Yu would have found someone else (Kane's propensity for dictating what the character would or wouldn't do may play a part in why he was let go right at the beginning).

Then I don't see the problem anyone has with him in Jason X, because he and "Ronny Yu Jason" suffered from the same problem, stiff, stale, slow, boring.


Slamming Ken by any means necessary seems to be a popular pastime in Friday fandom, particularly on the IMDB forum (and other forums of its ilk). I didn't really notice it at the time of release, but in the last couple of years it has become more apparent.

I would argue that it's actually the other way around, and the bashing and flaming have only now become more even between Ken and Kane, which is even more ridiculous today considering both men have set sail for the Grey Havens (Retired, in Jason terms.)


It's a pity, because I think Ken did the best he could with what he had (and I particularly liked his look in the film, which also seems to be a controversial viewpoint). He's taking a lot of fan flack that should be aimed at the film's director.

I agree with that James (Minus the "look" portion, I'm no fan of it.)

[Jigsaw]

I agree with everything Dre has said and he's hit the nail on the head with everything.

[WestinHillsDays]

I have just seen the trailer out of curiosity... the truth is that I care less about this remake or any other Friday the 13th movie or sequel; I find Jason one of the least appealing horror villains in movie history. However, I think it is insulting that Marcus Nispel is being regarded as the director of "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre." For God's sake. The only thing Nispel directed was a bad spin-off (call it a remake if you wish to do so) inspired by the actual movie by Tobe Hooper. I wish the producers had given a better title to the Texas Chainsaw Massacre movie that came out in 2003, thereby allowing the public to make a distinction between the original movie and the 2003 spin-off. For me, movies are intellectual products and, as such, they deserve to be treated with the same language that is applied to books and publications. Nispel? Director of "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre"? Give me a break.

[VoorheesGuy91]

I have just seen the trailer out of curiosity... the truth is that I care less about this remake or any other Friday the 13th movie or sequel; I find Jason one of the least appealing horror villains in movie history. However, I think it is insulting that Marcus Nispel is being regarded as the director of "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre." For God's sake. The only thing Nispel directed was a bad spin-off (call it a remake if you wish to do so) inspired by the actual movie by Tobe Hooper. I wish the producers had given a better title to the Texas Chainsaw Massacre movie that came out in 2003, thereby allowing the public to make a distinction between the original movie and the 2003 spin-off. For me, movies are intellectual products and, as such, they deserve to be treated with the same language that is applied to books and publications. Nispel? Director of "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre"? Give me a break.

Wrong on both counts. How you could consider Jason Voorhees one of the least appealing horror villans of all time is beyond me. Considering the fact that there have been 12 installments in the franchise to date, I am assuming that he must be somewhat appealing to movie goers...but call me crazy if you will. As for The Texas Chainsaw Massacre being a bad remake...have you ever seen the Black X-Mas remake? Now that's a bad remake my friend. Nispel's TCM remake however, was one of the best horror remake's to date IMO. But hey, that's just me.

[NW77]

Wrong on both counts. How you could consider Jason Voorhees one of the least appealing horror villans of all time is beyond me. Considering the fact that there have been 12 installments in the franchise to date, I am assuming that he must be somewhat appealing to movie goers...but call me crazy if you will. As for The Texas Chainsaw Massacre being a bad remake...have you ever seen the Black X-Mas remake? Now that's a bad remake my friend. Nispel's TCM remake however, was one of the best horror remake's to date IMO. But hey, that's just me.

Word. I like how Nispel's take on F13th is looking so far. At least he didn't go in the direction of Rob Zombie's Halloween

[SlasherFreak]

TCM remake >>>> TCM original

[Michellemabelle]

I'm wondering if we'll get any visuals of Young Jason or Pamela in the finished film...

[DRE]

I would think so. They probably just kept them out of the test screening.

[Michellemabelle]

I would think so. They probably just kept them out of the test screening.

Probably. I'm kind of wondering if Jason will have the same stringy blonde hair as a child.

[DRE]

I wouldn't doubt it, but I'm hoping to see him totally bald at that point.

[NW77]

I would think so. They probably just kept them out of the test screening.

I hope so. Seeing young Jason & his mom is a must be in this film. What if it contain some important element in the story?

[Jigsaw]

Full Theatrical Trailer To Debut Online Tomorrow And Also Friday With Prints Of Punisher: War Zone (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/14534)

[DRE]

Wow, that was out of the blue.

[The New Blood]

That's awesome! I can't wait to see the trailer when I get home from work tomorrow. :D

[Jigsaw]

Can't wait to see the full trailer. Hard to believe the movie is only two months away now, time sure flies.

I also just pre-ordered the upcoming Jason figure from this movie, I should be getting him by February :D

[DRE]

It sure does. I think that now is the greatest time in the new millennium for being a Friday the 13th fan (Even more so than the FvsJ period) with all that we are getting in relation to the series, as well as the anticipation of the new film. It's a happy time.

[Jigsaw]

It's great that this movie also harkens back to the old-school F13s, making this an even more exciting time. I think this movie will be great and I think it'll be my most favorite since either JL or TNB.

[Sean [The Wildcard]]

Hopefully B-D isn't pulling a fast one on us.

I can sense a story come Friday afternoon "Sorry for the delay you guys. Our sources claimed we'd be receiving the trailer yesterday, and it has not yet arrived. Anticipate to see it this weekend!" :lmao:

[Patrick]

Can't wait to see the new trailer. The teaser was very good. Maybe this one will be even more so.

BTW, any word on a soundtrack release for the new Friday the 13th?

[Jigsaw]

No idea on the soundtrack, hopefully it's a good one. I hope we get both the original score and a soundtrack, and the score is what's used in the film.

[Patrick]

Yea I meant score.

[Jigsaw]

Maybe we'll get an announcement about the score in due time.

[Patrick]

I'm kinda surprised there hasn't been any mention of it by now.

[Jigsaw]

I am too, but hopefully we'll get some news about it soon.

[DRE]

I'm not sure if Jablonsky's other PD scores were ever released.

[Patrick]

Well I hope this one is. That would suck if not.

[Jack Bauer]

Jablonsky only did the Horror remake and TCM '03 scores, right?

[francesco]

from www.bloddy-disgusting.com

alternative ending is coming!


You saw some reviews hit the web regarding Marcus Nispel's Friday the 13th, now it looks as if we'll be seeing something completely different when the film hits theaters February 13, 2009. Some pretty sweet news comes in this afternoon as sources tell us that Platinum Dunes shot additional scenes for New Line Cinema's remake, which follows a group of young adults that find themselves going toe-to-toe with the infamous Jason Voorhees (Derek Mears) at a cabin near Camp Crystal Lake. What exactly was shot is unknown, but we can confirm a new (or possibly variant) ending was in fact filmed. That would be pretty awesome to see on the DVD!

[makaveddie81]

Since it has long been confirmed that the film is being condensed to 90 minutes from 2 and a half hours of footage, I don't know why the existence of additional scenes is news to BD... then again it is BD so...

[Just Jeans]

Bloody Disgusting seems to think they've shot entirely new sequences, not re-inserted stuff from the original 2 and a half hours of footage. It's hard to know one way or the other, but if the Dunes is shooting new stuff, I reckon it's of the perfectly normal re-shoot variety. Since the film seems to be getting trimmed to 90 minutes, they may need to shoot some short stuff that bridges big gaps left but the removal of more substantial scenes.

[Sean [The Wildcard]]

So, I wonder what time we'll be seeing that trailer online today...

[Patrick]

I know...I was wondering the same thing. And I am about to have to go to work....yuck. So i'll have to wait until tonight to see it.

[Penhall]

Check out the final official one-sheet. Looks awesome!

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/14545

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/gallery/images/701//poster.jpg

[Cody]

Trailer update (http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=8719)

the full-length trailer is set to go live at Yahoo! Movies today at 5pm Pacific. Sources tell us that the trailer is a throwback to the original film's preview and features a "body count."

[VoorheesGuy91]

I think that the Official One Sheet looks absolutley bada**!!!

[HiCkMaN!]

Trailer update (http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=8719)

by Bodycount do they mean like the original trailer for the original film were it counted all the deaths in the movie?


also that new poster is the sex!

[Spook]

I like the new poster a lot. I hope they make a wallpaper on the official site soon.

[Rick]

The new poster is pretty sweet.

[makaveddie81]

Thats a long ass machete... reminds me of the FVJ katana... errr...machete :shudders:

[sCabbOy]

This may not make sense, but he would seem a lot more menacing without that machete, I mean Samurai sword. LOL
ADDED:
Thats a long ass machete... reminds me of the FVJ katana... errr...machete :shudders:

Haha, I did not read this until after I posted.

I said almost the exact thing.

[DRE]

Yeah, the dreadful FvsJ look has now replaced the classic green & tan as the image of Jason.

But I love the poster, very cool.

[Jason_Legend]

I like it, but does look too a tad too Freddy vs. Jason

[makaveddie81]

Yeah, the dreadful FvsJ look has now replaced the classic green & tan as the image of Jason.

But I love the poster, very cool.

Its a shame really... I cannot, for the life of me, figure out why they couldn't have used the classic attire and make it look worn and torn up just like they did for the mask.

[sCabbOy]

Its a shame really... I cannot, for the life of me, figure out why they couldn't have used the classic attire and make it look worn and torn up just like they did for the mask.

I was hoping for that myself, and I am quite sure it was because of the success of FvJ- they didn't want to leave the well perhaps? It's so simple to keep him classic, and the look works. Leatherface and Myers both stayed the same for their remakes, but Jason didn't? BLAH

[makaveddie81]

Also, why cant they even get the damn machete right? ever since FVJ the machete has been butchered (pun intended) to look like a damn samurai sword.

[sCabbOy]

I think they want to try and make a machete look menacing, when they don't. The only way it to make it longer, bigger and look like a damn sword! Machetes are notoriously dull so it's really hard to make one look menacing... that's why I love Jason with an axe in hand much more. That's jsut me, though

[The Dream Master]

Like the teaser poster, the new one sheet is rather generic and predictable, but it's alright, I guess. I'm not sure what else they could have done to rope in audiences because Jason's got to be at the front and center of this thing.

[makaveddie81]

Ax or pitchfork get the job done as far as I'm concerned
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Like the teaser poster, the new one sheet is rather generic and predictable, but it's alright, I guess. I'm not sure what else they could have done to rope in audiences because Jason's got to be at the front and center of this thing.

To me, the poster and one sheet don't have the old-school feel that the film is supposedly aiming for. Nor does Jason's look for that matter.

The trailer is supposed to have the classic body count sequence yet the aforementioned elements are new age takes.
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They even abandoned the old school font as well...

[jah jah jason]

lLOVE LOVE LOVE the new poster. I am so excited for the new trailer. 3 hours and counting .

[Penhall]

Yeah, I do agree that they should've kept the classic font. But overall I think the poster is pretty cool. I've never been crazy over Jason's new look, but I'm glad they at least kept the mask the same, instead of using the dreadful Jason X version.

[sCabbOy]

I don't mind the poster either, I mean you really can't see Jason's clothes so that doesn't bother me.

[NW77]

The new poster is pretty badass. I really like background of the dark woods with the moonlight. Kinda of a nostalgia(sp?) feeling there. And I can't wait for the new trailer today. It interesting a new one come out 2 months after the very first one came out with SAW V. I assumed the new trailer would be in Jan. instead. That a month before F13th open.

[Jigsaw]

I'm digging the new poster, although I must say I'm in the same camp of those who miss the classic green workshirt and tan docker pants attire he had in Parts 3-6.