Before the Mask: The Return of Leslie Vernon

[nickmeece]

So what's everyone's thoughts on a possible Return of Leslie Vernon...?

[Ron]

meh..i don't see why not. to tell you the truth i can't even remember the end of that movie for the life of me?

[Sketch Sanchez]

I'm up for it, I loved the final shot.

[kramerfan]

Is the first one too comical?

[Toejam]

No, Maybe?
If you are looking for a straight horror film, then yes.

I loved the first one, so I would be interested to see where they take Leslie in the sequel.

[Melanie Jarvis]

I would love another one. That movie was awesome.

[nickmeece]

Has anyone else seen the DVD Easter Egg on how he pulled off the ending? Quite genius...

Apparently the apple cider machine is NOT lethal, and he has stashed a nut cracker under the machine...so when he says, "I knew you were the one," he grabs it and crushes the nut as she gives the final blow.

[Toejam]

Where is the easter egg at?

[nickmeece]

Go to the screenplay section of the dvd, then hit your right arrow until a red spot lights up in the middle of the screen and hit enter...

[Toejam]

I found it now , thanks.

[Ron]

http://fangoria.com/home/news/9-film-news/2473-leslie-vernon-to-return-in-behind-the-mask-sequel.html

“Scott and I are painfully aware of the sequel trap, of treading the same ground again with nothing more than a bigger budget,” David J. Stieve, co-scripter with director Scott Glosserman, tells the site. “That’s not what’s going to happen. Things didn’t go the way Leslie wanted them to, particularly in the reaction of the residents of Glen Echo. I can’t give any more details than that, but suffice to say, we find Leslie a little perplexed that he ‘did everything right, everything went exactly according to plan!’ and yet the aftermath of his rampage is a right-turn derailment of what he was expecting. So he, being Leslie, regroups and plays the hand he’s been dealt. How Taylor and the boys get involved is part of the unfolding of his efforts in that regard.”

Taylor is the filmmaker played by Angela Goethals in the original, who winds up getting closer than she’d like to her subject. Stieve adds, “I can tell you that there is a way we’re blending the documentary and cinematic lenses again. And there is also a manner in which Taylor and Leslie are forced to cooperate with one another, although not necessarily on the best of terms. There’s definitely a perverse love story that must be honored…[and] a sort of bigger, badder influence that’s threatening everything Leslie’s worked to accomplish, and Taylor may have her own agenda for ‘helping’ him. Or does she?”

I'm looking forward to this. It seems like things could get very interesting.

[TheShowstoppa]

Fucking A... I'm there. I thought this film was innovative, extremely smart and downright gritty. I loved everything about the original and hope the sequel improves on a modern twist on the old fashioned slasher genre that needs a new love and new beast instead of remakes and reboots. This will be great.

[Kane Lives]

I was a big fan of the first one too. Definitely one of the better Horror films in the last couple years for my money. Been waiting to hear if they were going to a Sequel, so this is good news to me.

[Cody]

Leslie talks (http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/31778/exclusive-nathan-baelsel-talks-behind-mask-sequel)

From actor Nathan Baesel himself, word is -- "We've been talking for about a year, and Scott [Glosserman] and David [Stieve] have fleshed out a pretty workable frame. Scott called about a month ago cracking himself up while relating the newest machinations he and Stieve had come up with. I have to say it feels like it's going in a direction that appeals to a lot of what I was wanting to do with Leslie and satisfies a lot of the conceptual elements that turn Scotty on while addressing Stieve's desires to have a story light enough for entertaining popcorn fare while hitting genre fans where it counts. Scott feels the DVD sales have been strong enough to entice backers to a production that's more expansive, expensive, and satisfying than BTM. We'll see..."

[sCabbOy]

I reckon I am in the minority really disliking the first. Hopefully this will be a bit better... hopefully

[Ron]

I thought that the first film had it's corny elements and that the character of Leslie Vernon could border on annoying at times, but I still loved the movie for some reason. I found it to be a lot fresher than Hatchet..

[Natman]

I thought the first one was absolutely brilliant. I am sooo freaking excited for this.

[sCabbOy]

I would not call it brilliant-- it was way too comical and annoying to be taken as a serious movie.

[Cody]

It wasn't a serious movie, so why try to take it as one? :confused:

In general I would be wary of a sequel, afraid it would stray off into being too much of a straightforward slasher. But with the original team returning and with what sounds like an interesting angle, I'm up for it.

[Joshg]

I'd see it, but I thought the original lost a little something thirty minutes in.

[Ron]

I didn't really like the look of Leslie Vernon's mask. I wonder what the chances of him getting a new one are.

[Cody]

Glosserman Talks (http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/44477/weekend-horrors-2011-scott-glosserman-talks-behind-mask-sequel)

According to director/creator Scott Glosserman, they want to do a sequel, but it is far from a certainty.

The script for it picks up right at the end of the first film. Same tone, same aesthetics. Together with Behind the Mask co-writer David J. Stieve, Glosserman has found a way to continue the story of Leslie (Nathan Baesel) and Taylor (Angela Goethals) that makes sense. They've already spoken with Robert Englund to reprise his Ahab role of Doc Halloran. The filmmakers even have locations waiting, and most of the cast is in place and nailed down, but there no financiers as of yet.

In Before the Mask: The Return of Leslie Vernon, we find Leslie disappointed and depressed that his fame did not catch on. He wants to get back to work.

"We're trying to get all the elements together," says Glosserman. "We're even trying to crowd fund in part. We might enlist the Hatchet Army. We've talked to the Alamo Drafthouse, and we're talking to people like Dread Central. The idea is to maybe pre-sell DVDs on the website to raise money to be able to go see distributors and get a co-financier or pre-sell some territories."

[Sutter Cane]

Shit. This needs to happen.

[The Tall Man]

Englund was in fact talking about being amped to do this at the convention I saw him at last month. Me? Eh, not so much.

T.M., Esq.

[Cody]

DVD and posters are available for pre-order on Facebook: Support B4TM (http://www.facebook.com/BeforeTheMask?sk=wall#!/BeforeTheMask?sk=app_129044847175105)

Welcome Vernonites and Independent Horror Film Fans! Please join us as we embark on this grassroots endeavor to move B4TM into production. Express your support by pre-ordering merchandise for our long awaited prequel-sequel-remake to Behind The Mask: The Rise of Leslie Vernon.

Pre-ordering will strictly RESERVE your product and you WILL NOT be charged unless we actually green-light the film; in which case we're saying we'll be delivering your merchandise!

[Natman]

There. Done my part. I'm doing whatever I can to help this movie get made, and I'm glad everyone's still involved and ready to get it under way.

[Deathscythe]

Wow, a movie title has BEFORE and RETURN in it.

[Boiler Room Brawler]

I liked BTM, though it did seem to lose sight of its own punchline with the third act. Either way, I'm all for a sequel if it's goood, and it sounds like the film makers have something interesting cooking up.

[Rick]

This title points to a prequel or a sequel.
I wonder what direction they'll take.
I guess it could go either way.
I'd prefer a sequel. I hate prequels. I think expanding on what came before can change or ruin the simplicity of most stories. Although Leslie Mancuso could have a lot more to explore then most other killers in established, long running series.
I think a sequel is completely plausible.
Not sure if I really need spoilers here, but I'll use them.
Leslie set up every other weapon in the tool shed to not do much (if any) damage to him and he alluded that the apple press would play a role in that night's events. I say it's not out of the realm of possibility that he rigged the press so it wouldn't hurt him either.
He was also wearing make-up with fire retardant jell in it.
I think he probably escaped the apple barn before she set it on fire.
He wanted to create a legend for himself and follow in the footsteps of Jason, Freddy and Michael, killers who appear to be killed by their final victims yet return time and time again.
He must have had an escape plan. He took every other eventuality into account, including a bullet proof vest, and the killer returning after having been thought dead is standard.

[Cody]

Fundraising (http://www.facebook.com/BeforeTheMask) deadline: June 1st


Vernon Faithful:

We launched this Facebook page and campaign to crowd fund B4TM in June and it's taken us a fair amount of time (8 months) to figure out what the heck we're doing and how -- we're filmmakers after all, not tech wizards and marketing gurus. I don't even have a Facebook page. But, we did manage to get the help of some tech wizards and marketing gurus who also happen to have personal and emotional commitments to seeing the movie get made and for that I (and our cast/crew) am eternally grateful.

And now we are ready to get serious. Without a fundraising goal and a fundraising deadline, our effort languishes because our message is unclear. So, here it is:

We want to be shooting B4TM this fall. September, earliest, November, latest, to be exact. Therefore, we need to be in preproduction in August. Location scouting in July. Or before.

Our fundraising deadline for the crowd funding portion of B4TM is June 1st. If we achieve our goal by June 1st, we'll have enough time to close the other co-financing deals that are contingent upon securing our crowd funding.

As I am in the Directors Guild and our actors and writer, cinematographer, composer, et al, are in their respective guilds, this will be a union movie paying union scale wages and fringes. We will happily reveal the budget -- in fact, we are in discussions with a horror channel about doing a docu-reality series on the making of B4TM so that we can reveal what's involved in this production endeavor, every step of the way.

We shot our first movie for $232 thousand dollars (not including cast and post production/delivery). This movie will cost significantly more since we're all union now, and since we're deconstructing the conventions of horror sequels, prequels, and remakes, and you know how much...crazier...they tend to get.

Our crowd fundraising goal is $500 thousand dollars.

We have an investor(s) who is matching, dollar-for-dollar, up to that amount, so if/when we crowd fund $500K we'll actually have raised $1 million for B4TM. That will be enough to make our movie.

$500K by June 1st may seem like a daunting proposition, but spread out among the community we've already built, it's not crazy. And, we will continue to grow our community. But, we won't stop there.

We've got something really great to announce next week. I think it's going to jumpstart our challenge in a huge way and get everyone really excited.

So, please stay tuned. Stay committed. Many of you have already gone out of your way to help us by giving us your time and your creativity. We can't wait to reciprocate.

On behalf of the entire BTM/B4TM team, thank you. And get ready.

Scott Glosserman

[Natman]

There's apparently some big news coming tomorrow as well.

[Ron]

I made what has been deemed a "generous donation" to this film's production and will supposedly receive and on screen death in the upcoming installment.