Star Trek (2009)

[CampNewBlood]

I'm looking forward to seeing this and getting news about it's further development. Just wish it was a movie based on a combination of characters that are from TNG, DS9 and Voyager.

But, all in all, I think it will be a good movie. Of course I will see it anyway when it comes out.

Thoughts?

[DrLar]

yeah I heard the rumours about it, I'm not a happy camper with it, I also wish it was a continuation of where Voyager left off.

[The Dark Vampire]

I like it but like I said they absolutely have to put in Kirk fixing The Kobayashi Maru test

[DRE]

I want Damon as Kirk and I'll be a happy camper. I really feel bad that we'll never see the grand trek that Bryan Singer has in his head. I would have at least loved to see Next Gen go out with a bang.

[CampNewBlood]

yeah I heard the rumours about it, I'm not a happy camper with it, I also wish it was a continuation of where Voyager left off.

Oh yeaaa.....I would LOVE to see more from the Voyager crew.

[The Dark Vampire]

I always wondered how a Voyager movie would work would they get sent back to the delta quadrant.

Would it be set before the final episode would crew members who left Kes but more Neelix be in it.

[CampNewBlood]

There is a new book that seems to take place right after the events on Nemesis. It's called Star Trek: TNG... RESISTANCE...coming out in September.

I miss TNG crew... :(

BTW, Paramount is re-releasing The Next Generation complete seasons set this October.....awesome packaging. You can see it here:

http://tvshowsondvd.com/newsitem.cfm?NewsID=7677

[DRE]

I also miss the TNG crew, and I hear nothing but negativity regarding them on most Trek boards I read. I mean, they are NOT Rick Berman's creation and Nemesis wasn't THAT bad of a movie. Sad.

I hope the rumors of TNG getting an HD/new effects makeover (Like TOS) is true, the first few seasons really need it.

[CampNewBlood]

I agree totally DRE. I love that crew and Nemesis is a really good movie. The only reason it didn't rake in $$$ at the box office is because Paramount were idiots (yet again) by releasing it on the same day as Lord of the Rings.

[Wheatjedi]

Other than the Shinzon character being a bit too over-the-top for me (tone it down a little, fella!), I enjoyed Nemesis. I agree that it's release date did a lot of damage to its box office. I've always enjoyed the TNG crew and wish they could have been given a proper send-off, but if we never see them again.... I'm okay with it.

[Killa Pimp]

I agree totally DRE. I love that crew and Nemesis is a really good movie. The only reason it didn't rake in $$$ at the box office is because Paramount were idiots (yet again) by releasing it on the same day as Lord of the Rings.



They should have fired the Jack@$$es that made that move.
It should have come out after Christmas by at least 2 weeks or just waited to the next spring.
I wish that I would have watched Nemesis in the theaters.
But i had that LOTR fever, baby.

Plus I think that they are headed in the wrong time line, Star Treks should move forward, not back. I feel that all the definitive kirk / Spock /TOS Were told in thew 60's and their six movies.

[Toejam]

I think that they are headed in the wrong time line, Star Treks should move forward, not back. I feel that all the definitive kirk / Spock /TOS Were told in thew 60's and their six movies.

I agree, I have always loved the Original Series and the Next Generation.

I'd be interested in seeing a film that takes place 50 - 70 after TNG and DS9.

[DRE]

http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/images/star_trek_poster.jpg

Well, there it is, Teaser #2. I like it. It harks back to days of old.

And Zach Quinto (Sylar from "Heroes") has been cast as Spock. I'm pleased with this casting as he does have a Nimoy quality about him. I'm still holding out hope that Shatner and Damon are leading us on about not being in the film so the announcement will be a surprise. Why else have we heard no word of a Kirk actor?

[The Dark Vampire]

speaking of star Treks set in the future I'm pretty sure if (when) we get a new series it will probably bet set many years after TNG-DS9-Voyager

maybe even with The Enterprise NCC 1701-G or maybe even H

[Just Jeans]

Is Zach Quinto confirmed? I thought we wouldn't be getting casting news until this weekend.

[The Dream Master]

That poster will be mine. Oh yes, it will be mine.

[DRE]

Is Zach Quinto confirmed? I thought we wouldn't be getting casting news until this weekend.

Yep, it's a done deal, along with Nimoy returning as older Spock! I just don't get it, Damon WANTS to be Kirk, so why not let him?

http://trekmovie.com/

[Just Jeans]

Originally, I thought Damon was a good choice for Kirk, but with Zach Quinto cast as Spock, I'm now thinking not so much.

With time to reflect on who I'd like to see in the film, I think I'd like to see either a bunch of unknowns or semi-unknowns (like Quinto, who only really has Heroes under his belt) to take part in the film. I'd like to keep them around for the long haul, if you catch my drift.

Stacy Dash for Uhura. :bow:

[French Friday]

I don't really know Star Trek apart from old memories of the original series, and the pleasure I have watching First Contact in theater, the only modern ST I have seen. I plan on buying the whole 5 series on DVD + the cartoon, but they are expensive, and maybe HD-DVD versions will be released one day, so for now, I'm waiting.

I have just one question : why did they never try to make a movie with the whole cast of each series reunited ? (TOS, TNG, DS9, Voyager, Enterprise) With a story based on time travel to allow the meeting of some characters.

I don't know, but if I was a ST fan, it's the only movie I would really waiting for. And if I become one after watching the DVD, I would be impatient to see that kind of storyline.

The best way to give a proper ending to the saga IMHO. At least one before the next. To give closure to a first era of the saga.

Your thoughts ?

[DRE]

To answer that question French, the exec in charge of the franchise, Rick Berman, was a total dumbass. Either way, I don't think you could do a whole film with the five casts, only a film with a number of each of them. But even then, you have to think of the new audience coming in and being able to grasp why there are so many cast members.

Frankly, the only Trek film idea I was ever dying to see was a proper TOS/TNG crossover story. They had the perfect chance in 94 (When everyone was still alive) but Berman blew it. So now, we are left with a non-ending to the 24th Century story.

[Just Jeans]

A film featuring the entire cast from all five franchises would be a cluster fuck of immense proportions. Even excluding the cast members from each show who are no longer with us, none of the characters would have time to do anything, and certain fans will be disappointed when the cast/character of their choice gets less screen time than the others.

A crossover of all five franchises would work brilliantly in print, I think, but as a film? No way. It'd be a meltdown, although I imagine crossing over two of the shows in a single film could work really well.

[Geddy Peart]

I was pretty happy with the Kirk/Picard team up in Generations myself

[Just Jeans]

There wasn't enough Kirk for me. I would have liked for him to be in the film more.

[killingvector]

I was always disappointed by Kirk's death in Generations. The man deserved to die in space.

[French Friday]

A film featuring the entire cast from all five franchises would be a cluster fuck of immense proportions. Even excluding the cast members from each show who are no longer with us, none of the characters would have time to do anything, and certain fans will be disappointed when the cast/character of their choice gets less screen time than the others.

A crossover of all five franchises would work brilliantly in print, I think, but as a film? No way. It'd be a meltdown, although I imagine crossing over two of the shows in a single film could work really well.

Just make an epic three hours movie.

Or a trilogy.

Just think big !

Like I always say, if you don't think big at first, you'll never be able to reach something big then.

The only problem would be the fact that some actors are dead now. But they just have to mention them as dead in the movie.

I know I don't know ST very well, but when I hear about a universe with 5 different TV series in different times and spaces, I can't think of anything better than the ultimate crossover with an epic cosmic story. All the aliens races, all the human characters, all the spaceships...

[CampNewBlood]

Matt Damon does NOT need to be playing anything in Star Trek.

[DRE]

Matt Damon does NOT need to be playing anything in Star Trek.

Why? The guy is a great actor who could do justice to the role and would definitely do more than a Shatner impersonation.

But thinking about it now, since JTJ mentioned it, a lesser known actor would be better. I never thought about the possibility that this film would be the jumping off point of a new series run by the Lost/Alias team, I just assumed it would be the start of a new film franchise version.

[Just Jeans]

Spock on Spock (http://www.syfyportal.com/news423995.html)

Now that a new Spock, played by Zachary Quinto (who you probably know as the insane and powerful Sylar of NBC’s “Heroes”), has been cast for the upcoming Star Trek film, everyone wants to know what Leonard Nimoy’s thoughts are about this selection.

“He is a very solid actor. To find someone who looks right is tricky enough, but to find someone who looks right and is as talented as he is I think is doubly effective,” Nimoy told the TrekMovie website in an interview.

“The danger would be to find someone who looks like me, but does not have the sense of the interior life that is necessary for the Spock character,” he said.

Nimoy will be in the new movie as Spock, but everyone is tightlipped about how much he is in the film and what role this older Spock plays.

To date, it still appears that William Shatner will not be in the new Star Trek film. There have been some rumors running around on the web that he is ‘furious.’ Not so says Nimoy.

“I told J.J. that I was with Bill in Philidelphia last weekend and that Bill was disappointed that as of now he is not in the film. I think he is appropriately disappointed, but I think he has come to a kind of understanding,” Nimoy explained.

To read the rest of the interview, you can click to it at TrekMovie (http://www.syfyportal.com/%E2%80%9Dhttp://trekmovie.com/2007/08/02/interview-with-leonard-nimoy-part-2/%E2%80%9Dtarget=%E2%80%9D_blank).

In a way, it sort of makes sense of Shatner to not appear in the film. After all, Kirk died in Generations. It would be a little odd to have him appear as an older man alongside Spock when the films previously established that his character died.

I realize this is a reboot of sorts, but I'd like it if they could respect the previous franchise enough to maintain the continuity of Kirk's death (disappointing though it was).

[Just Jeans]

A casting call sheet for Star Trek is floating around. SyFy Portal (http://www.syfyportal.com/news424001.html) has the scoop:

Over the last few weeks, bits and pieces of what J.J. Abrams is looking for in his Trek characters have surfaced on the net. But now it seems more details are now available after a casting sheet of the main bridge officers of the NCC-1701 fell into the hands of Ain't It Cool News.

With Spock already cast with Zachary Quinto of "Heroes," the search is on for James Kirk, Leonard McCoy, Uhura, Sulu and Scotty.

What does it take to be Kirk? An actor between 23 and 29 who is "handsome, cocky, self-assured and earnest," the casting sheet calls. He also needs to be in "great physical condition," because we all know how Kirk likes to lose his shirt.


McCoy will be slightly older, between 28 and 32, and be "smart, clever and a bit danger-loving." The actor also should have dark hair and blue eyes.

Uhura should be in her mid-20s, black, "brilliant, beautiful, heroic and fun." The character will be a bit tom-boyish as well, as if she "grew up in a houseful of brothers."

Sulu will be between 25 and 32, and definitely Asian (and preferably Japanese). He also is "extremely fit" as well as capable and dedicated. He's also a bit of a wildcat ... not sure if they mean with a sword or not.

Finally, Montgomery Scott will be between 28 and 32, and "a brilliant ship's engineer." Not much else is provided beyond that, except that the actor "must be able to do a flawless Scottish accent."

"Star Trek XI" filming gets under way in November with a scheduled Christmas 2008 release.

The casting sheet apparently doesn't mention Chekov. :shifty:

I knew they'd shoot slightly older for Bones.

I like the direction they're going with Uhura, but then I would. I've got a thing for tom boys.

[DRE]

Well of course Uhura grew up in a house full of brothers, duh!

Anyways, I vote Kerry Washington or Gabrielle Union or Rosario Dawson for Uhura.

Still can't see anyone but Damon & Sinise for Kirk and Bones, but hopefully they blow me away with their new choices. Sulu = Whatever and it is in line with TOS canon that Chekov not appear at the beginning since he didn't show up until season/series two (Although Khan seemed to remember him in Wrath, even though his episode was in season/series 1.)

[Just Jeans]

Gabrielle Union is too old. They're looking for an actress in her mid-20s, which is a shame. I wanted Stacey Dash, m'self. But she's in her 40s now.

With Quinto in the role of Spock, I'd rather see an unknown -- or lesser known -- actor for Kirk. I still think Sinise would be ace as Bones, but I want a newbie as Kirk.

The Wrath of Kahn retconned Chekov's history. I always assumed that Chekov must have been on the ship the whole time, but he didn't move to the bridge crew until season 2.

[DRE]

That's true, he could have been an Ensign on the lower decks somewhere.

[Rich]

Star Treck 2008? So is it a remake of the first movie? What is it?

[The Dark Vampire]

No it's set before the classic series right back to when they were at Star Fleet Academy and maybe into their first on bored ship missions

[BlakeTyner]

You know, I'm pretty excited for this flick. I really wish the Next Gen crew would have had a couple more movies. Outside of Generations I wasn't very fond of any of their big-screen efforts.

I don't think it'd make a good movie, but I've always wondered what kinds of neat stuff the Enterprise encountered under Pike's command. That's kind of why I didn't watch "Enterprise," because for my money the first commander of an Enterprise was Pike. ;)

~Blake

[DRE]

According to Rotten Tomatoes, Sydney Tamiia Poitier (Jungle Julia from Death Proof) auditioned for a role in the film (more than likely Uhura.) I say why not?

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/comic_con_2007/news/1657693/

[The Dark Vampire]

You know, I'm pretty excited for this flick. I really wish the Next Gen crew would have had a couple more movies. Outside of Generations I wasn't very fond of any of their big-screen efforts.

I don't think it'd make a good movie, but I've always wondered what kinds of neat stuff the Enterprise encountered under Pike's command. That's kind of why I didn't watch "Enterprise," because for my money the first commander of an Enterprise was Pike. ;)

~Blake

Actually before Captain Christopher Pike there was Captain Robert T April whilst yes he was only featured in single episode of the animated series but according to the official Star Trek Encyclopedia (yes I own a copy) it's cannon.

[BlakeTyner]

Actually before Captain Christopher Pike there was Captain Robert T April whilst yes he was only featured in single episode of the animated series but according to the official Star Trek Encyclopedia (yes I own a copy) it's cannon.

If I knew that, I'd forgotten it. I have a first-edition copy of the Encyclopedia (signed by John De Lancey, on the Q page) but I haven't looked at it in a while. I didn't think the cartoon counted as canon, though. Learn something new every day. :D

~Blake

[The Dream Master]

Star Treck 2008? So is it a remake of the first movie? What is it?

No one really knows. In some ways, it feels like a reboot, but it's possible it could just be a prequel of sorts. There's not much known about this film at all, really.

[Just Jeans]

Star Treck 2008? So is it a remake of the first movie? What is it?

The feeling that I'm getting is that it's a reboot prequel. Given that the film chronicles the early adventures of the Enterprise crew (we don't know the exact point in the crew's history yet) and that Nemoy is playing Spock in the film, I'd say they're going to try and keep it within the established continuity of the previous films.

I didn't think the cartoon counted as canon, though.

It happens very rarely between animated shows and their live action counterparts, but in this case, Star Trek: TAS was intended to be an official canonical continuation of the series. However, I've been led to believe that Roddenberry removed it from the continuity when The Next Generation went into its second season.

But then later, one of the other shows (Voyager maybe, I can't remember which) came along and mentioned events that took place in The Animated Series, thus bringing them back into the canon.

It's actually a bit of a complicated mess. Here's what Wikipedia says:

At the end of the first season of Star Trek: The Next Generation, all licenses for Star Trek spin-off fiction were renegotiated and the animated series was essentially "decanonised" by Gene Roddenberry's office. Writers of the novels, comics and role-playing games were prohibited from using concepts from the animated series in their works. The Star Trek Chronology by production staffers Michael Okuda and Denise Okuda does not include the animated series, but does include certain events from "Yesteryear". The timeline in Voyages of the Imagination dates the events of the series to 2269-2270, assuming the events of the show represented the final part of Kirk's five-year mission, and using revised Alan Dean Foster stardates.

Since Roddenberry's death in 1991 and the consequent firing of Richard H. Arnold, there have been various references to the animated series into one of the live-action series. In the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine episode "Once More Unto the Breach", Kor referred to his ship, the Klothos, which was first named in the TAS episode "The Time Trap". Other DS9 episodes to reference the animated series include "Broken Link", where Elim Garak mentions Edosian orchids (Arex is an Edosian) and "Tears of the Prophets" where a Miranda class starship is called the USS ShirKahr (sic) after Shikahr, the city from "Yesteryear".

More DS9 references to the animated series include the episode "Prophet Motive" where the title of healer is resurrected from "Yesteryear" as well. Vulcan's Forge is also mentioned in "Change of Heart", where Worf wants himself and Jadzia Dax to honeymoon there.

Most recently, the Star Trek: Enterprise episodes "The Catwalk" and "The Forge" included references to "Yesteryear", the latter featuring a CGI rendition of a wild sehlat. The remastered episode Original Series episode, Amok Time featured Shikahr in the background as Spock beams up at the episode's end.

In more recent years references to the Animated Series have also cropped up in books. M'Ress and Arex, characters from the animated series, appear in the Star Trek: New Frontier novels. A race introduced in the episode "The Jihad", represented by M/3/Green, is named as the Nasat in the Starfleet Corps of Engineers e-book novellas. These stories feature a regular Nasat character, P8 Blue.

Amarillo Design Bureau, Inc. has — as part of its license for the Star Fleet Universe series of games — incorporated many aspects of the Animated Series into its works, not least being the inclusion of the Kzinti, although in a modified form. In addition FASA used elements from the animated series in its sourcebooks and modules for its Star Trek role-playing game.

On June 27, 2007, Star Trek's official site included information from the animated series into its library section of the site.
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Crazy Cruise in my Star Treks? Oh hells naw!

From SyFy Portal (http://www.syfyportal.com/news424011.html):

Can J.J. Abrams do anything without Tom Cruise? Apparently not, if the latest rumor from IGN has any legs to it.

Abrams apparently is taking the route of adding a famous name to a hyped project, and is apparently focusing in on Cruise to play Capt. Christopher Pike in the upcoming "Star Trek XI" film.

Cruise is not opposed to doing cameos in big-name movies, last doing such work in "Austin Powers in Goldmember," but it's unclear how much clout Abrams actually has with Paramount Pictures who is the studio behind the next Star Trek film, and the same studio that threw Cruise out after they blamed the actor for causing the last Abrams movie from Paramount to flop, "Mission: Impossible III."

Whether Paramount would forgive Cruise long enough to let him join the Star Trek cast, or really vice versa, is unclear and probably unlikely. But if Cruise were to join, it would certainly be a coup for Abrams and Star Trek fans alike.

Producers have tried to link big names to Star Trek in the past. Eddie Murphy was once lined up to play a character in "Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home" before the studio nixed the idea, and Tom Hanks was sought after by Rick Berman to play Zefram Cochrane in "Star Trek: First Contact."

There has been a celebrity cameo in a Star Trek movie in the past, however. Christian Slater had an uncredited role in "Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country," something he himself pushed to get.

Of course, this story is a rumor, so treat it as you would any other rumor.

Crazy Cruise as Christopher Pike? Sure. Why not.

[The Dream Master]

For some reason, I'm digging that. It may be due to the fact that I just watched Mission Impossible II a few minutes ago, but for some reason I'm not thinking it's the worst idea ever.

[Just Jeans]

So long as he doesn't play Captain Kirk, I can deal.

[The Dream Master]

That'd be pretty much unacceptable in my book as well.

[DRE]

The Cruise rumor has been debunked by his publicist.

And now, the new Pavel Chekov.....


Yelchin sets Course for 'Trek'

By Tatiana Siegel

Aug 8, 2007
J.J. Abrams is putting together his bridge crew for Paramount Pictures' 11th film in the "Star Trek" franchise. Russian-born Anton Yelchin is in negotiations to play Pavel Checkov, the Russian-born navigator of the USS Enterprise under the command of James T. Kirk.

Yelchin will join Zachary Quinto and Leonard Nimoy, who will both play the role of Mr. Spock. Casting is under way in New York and London for Kirk, Bones, Uhura, Sulu, Scotty, the film's villain and the Federation captain. Abrams, who will helm the untitled film, is expected to sign bigger-name actors for the latter two parts.

Plot details are being kept under wraps, but the story line is believed to chronicle the early days of the Enterprise crew during their time at Starfleet Academy.

Checkov was played by Walter Koenig on the original "Star Trek" TV series, and he is a key member of the Enterprise crew.

Abrams is producing the tentpole through his Paramount-based Bad Robot shingle. Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci penned the screenplay and will executive produce along with Bryan Burk and Damon Lindelof. The film is scheduled to bow on Christmas Day 2008.

Yelchin, whose recent credits include "Alpha Dog," next appears in "Charlie Bartlett" and "Finding t.A.T.u." He is repped by CAA.


Article (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/film/news/e3i4d705b8469ab9fb8943c401da6415f43)

I think Anton is a good young up and coming actor, and he is at least Russian born.

A report at Trekmovie.com (The best source for news on the film, one of the writers even posts there.) says that filming will begin on November 5th, less than 89 days from now.

I'm sure they can find a way to get Shatner back in there, hell, they can even give a small cameo to Patrick Stewart if they wanted.

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Now there is a rumor that they are pursuing Russell Crowe for the lead villain role. If it turns to be true I think it's a great thing! Now just get Jensen Ackles for Kirk and everything will be fine.

Article (http://trekmovie.com/2007/08/08/russell-crowe-as-films-villian/)

[Just Jeans]

According to SyFy Portal (http://www.syfyportal.com/news424040.html), Heroes co-star James Kyson Lee is actively seeking to play Sulu in Star Trek.

Now word is out that If he has his way, James Kyson Lee, who plays non-powered Ando (Hiro's friend), is actively seeking to follow in Takei's footsteps and wants to play a young Hikaru Sulu in the movie.

You know, I think that'd be a good choice. I hope they consider him.

[Just Jeans]

New Scotty Beams Up? (http://www.syfyportal.com/news424059.html)

t looks like once again that ever-present Star Trek movie rumor mill was right as British newspapers are naming Scottish actor James McAvoy the new Montgomery "Scotty" Scott, chief engineer of the Starship Enterprise.

McAvoy, probably best known in the United States for his role as Mr. Tumnus in the "Chronicles of Narnia," was rumored to be the next Scotty as early as last February in J.J. Abrams upcoming 11th Trek film -- a rumor that McAvoy never denied.

"I love Star Trek, but my only gripe with Star Trek was that sometimes they fell into racial stereotypes, and with Scotty more than any other, because he really was just a Scotsman and nothing else," McAvoy told the Coming Soon Web site at the time. "There was nothing else behind his character really. I hope they don't do that with him" in the new movie.

Apparently, McAvoy has been reasurred as the 28-year-old actor has in fact joined the film, according to the Scottish Sunday Mirror. The newspaper pointed out the fact that this would be the first time the character was played by a real Scot as the original actor, the late James Doohan, was Canadian.

"James was up against some famous names," a source told the newspaper. "Everyone's delighted to have him on board."

Scotty is part of the core Trek crew that has become national icons, especially through the phrase "Beam me up, Scotty" despite the fact it was never spoken in the series or movies. Doohan -- a master of accents and one of the creators of the Klingon language -- died in 2005 after appearing in most of the original series, seven movies, and a "Star Trek: The Next Generation" episode. Doohan was already a senior citizen when McAvoy was born in 1979 in Glasgow. McAvoy is no stranger to the genre, appearing in the 2003 SciFi Channel miniseries "Children of Dune" as Leto Atreidas II. British fans know him as Steve McBride in the television series "Shameless."

None of this has been confirmed by Paramount, so this should continue to be treated as any rumor would.

[Cody]

Saldana on 'Trek' with Abrams, Par (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i1c31d11ff3059c9e55f5f3989888be78)

Zoe Saldana is in final negotiations to play Uhura, who is the chief communications officer on the USS Enterprise.

IESB (http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3345&Itemid=99) is hearing that Mike Vogel, who lost a leg to Leatherface in '03, might be the new Kirk.

And the story rumor that Moriarty has heard (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33832) for this movie, and possibly the future of the franchise -

I think Leonard Nimoy is sort of the star of the movie. I think a lot of this movie is about Spock. Nimoy-aged Spock, mind you.

How?

Okay... you know the scene in BACK TO THE FUTURE 2? Where Doc Brown explains alternate timelines? Well, this is sort of... ummm... TREK TO THE FUTURE, I guess you would call it...

Picture an incident that throws a group of Romulans back in time. Picture that group of Romulans figuring out where they are in the timeline, then deciding to take advantage of the accident to kill someone’s father, to erase them from the timeline before they exist, thereby changing all of the TREK universe as a result. Who would you erase? Whose erasure would leave the biggest hole in the TREK universe is the question you should be asking.

Who else, of course, but James T. Kirk?

If Spock were in a position to change that incident back, and then in a position to guard that timeline and make sure things happen the way they’re supposed to, it creates...

... well, what does it create? Because evidently the plan is to use this second timeline as a way of rebooting without erasing or ignoring canon. These new voyages of the ENTERPRISE, they’re taking place in whatever timeline starts with this story.

... I’m not telling you that anything I said above is 100% set in stone. I don’t think Abrams is far enough along for that to be the case yet. But they are considering some really crazy reinventions

[DRE]

I'm not seeing Vogel as Captain of the Enterprise but I have been impressed with JJ's choices so far and I will keep an open mind about it. I still say Jensen Ackles for Kirk!

Also, Trekmovie.com is saying that former Stargate: Atlantis actor Paul McGillion is in the running for Scotty, and my god, if this guy isn't the resurrection of TOS era James Doohan then I am Robert Englund. Click the link to read the article and see him in action.

The Possible Scotty (http://trekmovie.com/2007/09/26/paul-mcgillion-a-contender-for-scotty/)

[hack slash]

Trek's Kirk casting Sep. 28, 2007


Source: IESB.net by: James Thoo


Well it seems like Mike Vogel (POSEIDON) must have impressed the hell out of J.J. Abrams on the set of CLOVERFIELD/1-18-08/ SOMETHING WITH MONSTERS because if the whispers are to be believed (and by whispers I mean IESB.net), then he's about to be cast in the lead role of James T. Kirk in Abrams' STAR TREK reboot. As we've heard, other casting involves Zachary Quinto from 'Heroes' playing Spock, Leonard Nimoy as the older Mr. Spock and Zoe Saldana playing Uhura. Is this good news? Sure, this guy looks the part and I haven't seen him in anything that has annoyed me yet. And as we know what does or does not annoy me is the number one criteria for casting major film roles. Good job Abrams, maybe you want to hit us with a new CLOVERFIELD trailer or something, now?

[DRE]

I'm not really feeling Mike as THE James T. Kirk, he just doesn't have that mans man quality. JJ, do the right thing, hire Stephen Dorff or Jensen Ackles, they are more Kirk than Vogel will ever be.

Damn, outside of Christian Bale as Batman, I've been shit out of luck in getting good actors cast as my favorite heroes.

Does anyone see this guy playing Denny Crane or in a film version of TJ Hooker?


ADDED:

ISEB and Trekmovie.com are reporting that Karl Urban is being offered a role that was thought to be the villain, but now seems to be of something else, possibly Dr. Bones McCoy.

LINK (http://trekmovie.com/2007/09/28/karl-urban-up-for-star-trek-role-but-not-villain-casting-plot-updates/)

[Just Jeans]

I don't know who Mike Vogel is, so it works for me. I wanted Kirk to be an actor I know nothing about, so I can judge him based exclusively on the Trek.

As for Karl Urban... I wish he'd stay the fuck out of my science fiction films. Over-all I like the guy, but every science fiction film he touches comes to dust. SyFy Portal is reporting he's been offered the part of a Romulan bad dude, but it doesn't say anything about him playing Bones (which I think is a really shit idea.)

I do like the idea of the film focusing much more on Spock than on Kirk. I think that's a nice change of pace.

[Geddy Peart]

Karl Urban? As in Pathfinder Karl Urban? If so ugh. He's no Bones.

[hack slash]

Eric Bana Joins the cast

Bana to Play Star Trek Villain Nero
Source: Variety October 9, 2007


Eric Bana will play villain Nero in Paramount Pictures' Star Trek, to be directed by J.J. Abrams (Mission: Impossible III, "Lost," "Alias"), reports Variety.

Anton Yelchin, Zachary Quinto, Zoe Saldana and Leonard Nimoy have already boarded the USS Enterprise. Casting is under way in New York and London, and Abrams had been expected to pursue bigger-name actors for the roles of the villain and the Federation captain, the latter of which remains unfilled.

The studio still needs to cast several other major parts before the November start date, including a young James T. Kirk and Scotty.

Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci wrote the screenplay and will executive produce along with Bryan Burk and Damon Lindelof.

Star Trek hits theaters on Christmas Day 2008.

[Cody]

Another Kirk rumor (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/film/news/e3id79cf52df213eaf4096924ee9d83816a) - Chris Pine, who wallowed in the dullness of being a Lindsay Lohan love interest in Just My Luck, then was awesome as a redneck neo-Nazi hitman/psycho in Smokin' Aces.

And (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/startreknews.php?id=38287) a new cast member - Simon Pegg is Scotty.

[The Dark Vampire]

No No NNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo Simon Pegg damn it to hell I can't stand the guy I just hope he plays it serious

[Just Jeans]

And (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/startreknews.php?id=38287) a new cast member - Simon Pegg is Scotty.

http://imgbolt.com/public/29193/EPICWIN.jpg

[The Dream Master]

And (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/startreknews.php?id=38287) a new cast member - Simon Pegg is Scotty.

Fucking. Win.

[DRE]

Well, you can't win the all. I was betting on Paul McGillion from Stargate Atlantis. I think Chris Pine is a good choice if he gets it, but Simon Pegg? Oh well.


ADDED:

And now John Cho has been cast as Sulu!!!!

In my best Stifler impersonation, "What...the...fuck is going on?"

John Cho as Sulu (http://trekmovie.com/2007/10/11/john-cho-is-the-new-sulu/)

Tell me this is all a joke?

[Just Jeans]

Cho is fine for Sulu. I'm not really familiar with what he's done before, but I see no reason to count him out yet.

[DRE]

It's just the one-two punch of comedic actors that's thrown me off, but we'll see.

[The Dream Master]

John Cho is 35?! What the hell?

[Spade]

Cho is fine for Sulu. I'm not really familiar with what he's done before, but I see no reason to count him out yet.

Cho is the weirdest choice so far for me. I mean come on what has he done... a stupid stoner flick about hamburgers... said milf in a movie... and starred in a few episodes of numerous tv series... yep he's star trek material.

I can picture it now... Star Trek being a coming of age/teenage sex comedy about how the rest of his buddies at the starfleet academy try to get Kirk laid and then go to White Castle.

[Just Jeans]

He's virtually unknown -- which is fine by me.

[Spade]

I'd rather it be an unknown actor. But I've seen Cho's movies and I can't get past the part that Harold is going to be in Star Trek. I guess maybe I'm typecasting him in the idiot parts he played in the American Pie movies and in Harold and Kumar. I hope he does a good job and changes my mind though, but with another Harold and Kumar getting released before this movie I'm pretty sure this will be a minus for me for a while.

[Just Jeans]

I won't judge how Cho might do in Star Trek based on his previous work any more than I would judge how Zachary Quinto might do in Star Trek based on his previous work. Given that neither actor has been given the chance to prove themselves outside the work they're known for, it just seems unfair.

[Spade]

I won't judge how Cho might do in Star Trek based on his previous work any more than I would judge how Zachary Quinto might do in Star Trek based on his previous work. Given that neither actor has been given the chance to prove themselves outside the work they're known for, it just seems unfair.

Yeah your right. I'll give him a chance and withold any further judgments until I see it. Hopefully he'll surprise me.

About Zachary Quinto, at least with him I enjoyed some of his work.

[Scarecrow]

Simon Pegg... interesting choice! Still, gives me anoher reason to want to see this!


- Scarecrow

[Just Jeans]

About Zachary Quinto, at least with him I enjoyed some of his work.

I agree about Quinto. I really enjoy his role in Heroes (and it's a shame he's being written out so he can go work on Star Trek), but even so he might end up being completely wrong for Spock. We won't really know until we see him in action.

[Sketch Sanchez]

Y'know what, if Kumar can play a terrorist in 24 and silent Luthor henchman number 1, then I say give Harold a chance.

[Cody]

According to Smokin' Aces director Joe Carnahan's blog (http://www.smokinjoecarnahan.com), Chris Pine has pulled out of his next movie to be Kirk -

The young man playing Junior Stemmons has opted to 'boldly go where no man has gone before' and thus, had to bow out of WHITE JAZZ. I've been talking to him this past week and knew how tough the decision had to be for him. I don't envy ever being in that spot but I gave him my full support, even if it meant he didn't do JAZZ. I get it. You don't get opportunities like that often and I told him as long as he could control as much of that process as possible and not get sucked into doing lesser sequels as a result of taking this gig, then good luck and God bless.

We're sure to do something down the road. I've already slotted him in for KILLING PABLO.

Carnahan followed that up with

For the record, I never mentioned anybody by name in yesterday's post when I told everyone that the young man I had chosen to play Junior Stemmons had instead opted out for another, faster starting gig. I hate when our little blog spills over into the larger, evil blogosphere and I get quoted in connection with separate story.

Shows you how many latent traffickers we have here at 'Smokin Joe' and although we think we're alone...and it's just a handful of us minding the shop...that's really not the case.

but the talk has already been out that Pine was the one with that choice to make, so those beans are spilled. Sorry, Joe.

[hack slash]

Karl Urban as Bones????
From AICN
He's Cast, Jim!! McCoy, Leonard H (Son Of David) Will Be Played By...


Merrick here...


...KARL URBAN.




You may've seen him in THE BOURNE SUPREMACY, THE LORD OF THE RINGS (THE TWO TOWERS & RETURN OF THE KING), playing opposite The Rock in DOOM, or as the lead in PATHFINDER.

We heard RUMORS ABOUT THIS last week. Now, one of my main dudes tells us Urban-"Bones" is "pretty much a done deal".

It'll be odd seeing Mr. Dark&Hunky-Action-Man playing a laid-back, peaceful country doctor. Presuming, of course, the character is patterned after DeForest Kelley's phenominal approach.

[The Dream Master]

I'm not digging that casting choice too much, and I've liked all the other choices.
Bones should be played by Gary Sinise, as was rumored earlier. I guess he's too old, though.

[Just Jeans]

Ugh.

It's not that I dislike Urban -- he's the best thing about most of the films he's in -- but I don't think he has a whole lot of range, and I'm not feeling him as Bones. Sinise would have been a better choice, I agree.

[Deathscythe]

Damn, I read the title as Keith Urban is Bones.

[DRE]

I like this choice better than Pegg and Cho, but I guess I'll hold judgment until Christmas 08. And with Pine as Kirk I guess that concludes the casting for the crew.

[Just Jeans]

And with Pine as Kirk I guess that concludes the casting for the crew.

Have they officially announced Pine, or are we only assuming it's him because of Joe Carnahan's blog?

[DRE]

Well, all the major sites are saying he's in, but it hasn't been officially announced. Neither has Urban.

[Just Jeans]

Hasn't he? I thought AICN was reporting the announcement. That's what I get for taking anything AICN says at face value.

[DRE]

No, they are saying they are going by a source that said Urban is a done deal. I believe them, and I believe Pine is also cast. We're just waiting for the press release.

[Just Jeans]

I'm willing to believe Pine has been cast, or is about to be cast, but I refuse to believe anything posted on AICN without photographic evidence that has been signed in triplicate by an attorney at law, a justice of the peace, and the Lord God Almighty.

[The Dream Master]

'Tis official. From IMDB:

Pine To Go Where Shatner Went Before


Writer-director Joe Carnahan (Smokin' Aces) has indirectly revealed that actor Chris Pine has landed the role of Captain James Kirk in the next Star Trek movie. It had been reported earlier that Pine was weighing whether to co-star with George Clooney in Carnahan's next movie, White Jazz, or take the Kirk role. But on his blog Monday, Carnahan wrote that Pine "has opted to 'go where no man has gone before' and thus had to bow out of White Jazz. I've been talking to him this past week and knew how tough the decision had to be for him. I don't envy ever being in that spot, but I gave him my full support, even if it meant he didn't do Jazz. I get it. You don't get opportunities like that often."

[Just Jeans]

'Tis official. From IMDB:

The words "official" and "IMDB" don't go very well together. In fact, the mere thought of those words crammed into the same sentence together gives me heartburn.

[The Dream Master]

IMDB is very reliable when it comes to news, Jeans. Unlike the other sections, the news section doesn't contain user-submitted info. All the news comes from Studio Briefing.

[DRE]

Well it's official now, Star Trek.com has confirmed that Pine is Kirk and Urban is Bones. TOS has been officially recast.

[hack slash]

Confirmation: URBAN IS BONES
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/film/news/e3id8e5364152f5fc45f22c9f376098ef3b



Urban, Pine join Abrams' 'Star Trek'New Kirk opts out of Clooney-Carnahan 'Jazz' FilmBy Borys Kit

Oct 18, 2007


Karl Urban is strapping on a stethoscope to play Leonard "Bones" McCoy, the Starship's Enterprise's medical officer, in J.J. Abrams' "Star Trek" feature for Paramount.

Chris Pine, meanwhile, closed his deal to star as the young Captain Kirk. He had been in talks to play Kirk as well as a role opposite George Clooney in Joe Carnahan's "White Jazz" (HR 10/10). The two movies overlapped, and Pine was forced to choose between them, opting to make the "Trek."

Abrams has been furiously casting "Trek," with John Cho, Simon Pegg and Eric Bana joining the film last week.

Also on board are Zoe Saldana as the young Uhura, Anton Yelchin as the young Chekov and Zachary Quinto as the young Spock. Leonard Nimoy, who originated the role of Spock, also will be part of the film.

The movie is expected to shoot from November-March.


Plot details are begin kept under wraps, but it is understood that the movie chronicles the early days of the Enterprise crew.

The character of McCoy, originated by DeForest Kelley, didn't trust advanced technology and frequently sparred with Spock in debates of logic vs. emotion. Bones also was responsible for several of "Trek's" catchphases, including "He's dead, Jim" and "Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor, not a ...," ending in a profession in which he had no training.

Urban, from New Zealand, played Eomer in "The Lord of the Rings" trilogy. His feature credits include "The Bourne Supremacy" and "Pathfinder."

He is repped by Endeavor, the Firm and Colden, McKuin and Frankel.

[On a Pale Horse]

http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2007/SHOWBIZ/Movies/10/19/film.startrek.ap/art.pine.gi.jpg

I'm in, Scotty!!"


Why is Nimoy ALSO listed as Spock in the credits? Is he going to play Spock's dad or something?

[hack slash]

Why is Nimoy ALSO listed as Spock in the credits? Is he going to play Spock's dad or something?

Nimoy and Quinto are both playing Spock at different ages

[On a Pale Horse]

Nimoy and Quinto are both playing Spock at different ages

How is that going to work...... is this movie going to be told in the form of flashbacks, with Nimoy playing Spock, telling people his stories of younger days?

[The Dream Master]

OAPH, there's a spoilerized (rumored) plot synopsis in the 47th post in this thread.

Also, check out this (http://www.hollywood.com/news/Shatner_to_Appear_in_New_Star_Trek_Movie/4949771) bit of news. I spoilerized it because, if you think hard enough, it could be a major plot point.

[The Dark Vampire]

I think for the first time ever I may have to give Star Trek a miss I'm a huge Trekkie even getting beat up at school because I was such a big fan (I even started a in school fan club and walked around with Star Trek magazines and a home made commutator) but no matter what they did I was never put off watching however the news that Pegg is in this is worse than any of that.

[Just Jeans]

Shatner Says He's Not In 'Star Trek XI' ... Really (http://www.syfyportal.com/news424323.html)

Don't listen to those reports that William Shatner is involved in "Star Trek XI." In a new video posted at the actor's official Web site (http://www.williamshatner.com/), Shatner once again denied that he has anything to do with J.J. Abrams upcoming movie.

"I don't know where they are getting their information from," Shatner said. "I have not been offered, or even suggested ... the word has not come down. And a cameo? I can't imagine why I would do a cameo."

Filming is set to begin next month on "Star Trek XI," and Shatner -- who is making a name for himself in the 21st century as the Emmy award-winning star of "Boston Legal" on ABC -- says he is disappointed that Abrams and the writer couldn't find a way to work Shatner's version of Kirk into the story.

"It is a strange construction since it's open to certain people's will on how to construct the story." When his daughter Lisabeth asked if his character's death in "Star Trek Generations" maybe played a role in him not being offered a part, Shatner reminded her that anything is possible in science-fiction.

"What would inhibit them?" Shatner asked. "It's a story problem, but not in science-fiction. If you can get DNA from a dinosaur -- which we are apparently ready to do -- and resurrect that ... and they've been dead 160 million years. I've only been dead for 10."

Shatner's longtime friend Leonard Nimoy has a "substantial" role in the film, resurrecting his character of Spock and handing the baton off to a new actor to take on the role, Zachary Quinto of "Heroes." Actor Chris Pine is reportedly finalizing a deal that will make him Capt. Kirk, but he won't have the original version of his character to guide him along.

"Star Trek XI" is expected to open Dec. 25, 2008.

[The Dream Master]

Jeans, I'm convinced that they're keeping the Shat's role a secret precisely because his appearance would bring the house down. Now, some speculation on my part (this is a theory I've seen kicked around on the interwebs):

The whole story is supposedly about how Spock's going back in time to prevent Kirk from being killed. Of course, he succeeds, but when he comes back to his present, he finds Kirk alive and well, having never died from the events of Generations. That'd be a HUGE plot point, and I think that's why they're being so coy about Shatner's appearance.

[Chex]

So then that means Generations is just going to get pushed aside and retconned out?

[The Dream Master]

Well, like I said, that's just speculation that I've read, and it's in no way based upon any concrete material. If all that happens, I don't think many fans would be unhappy that Kirk's death was retconned. I personally think it'd be great if Shatner's Kirk got a better send off than dying like he did in Generations

Added: I guess if this were to happen, it really wouldn't be a ret-con at all. It'd mean there's an "alternate time-line" where the events of Generations didn't unfold the same way as in the original time-line. That way, continuity is kept.

Then again, Shatner may be telling the complete truth and he actually isn't in this at all. I'm just not buying it, though.

[Just Jeans]

Jeans, I'm convinced that they're keeping the Shat's role a secret precisely because his appearance would bring the house down.

Bah, that's all too cloak and dagger. I'm working on the assumption that future Spock is from a point after Kirk dies, so he goes back on his own to stop time being altered. Basically, there's just no need for Shatner's presence.

So then that means Generations is just going to get pushed aside and retconned out?

Based on the plot outline I've read, this film will act as the beginning of a splinter time line, one which runs parallel to the Original Series course of events. It allows them to do what they like in future sequels without being constricted by the original time line, but it also means they're not flat out destroying what came before. This is just something new/different.

I personally like the idea, but there's no guarantee that's what's actually going to happen.

[Chex]

That's very true and a good way to look at it.

[The Dream Master]

Bah, that's all too cloak and dagger. I'm working on the assumption that future Spock is from a point after Kirk dies, so he goes back on his own to stop time being altered. Basically, there's just no need for Shatner's presence.



I agree that it's only going to be Spock going back in time. If Shatner's going to be in it at all, it'll be at the very end to indicate that he's still alive in the future of the new timeline. It'd be a great way to send off Shatner's Kirk .

[Cody]

Bruce Greenwood is Christopher Pike (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34730).

Winona Ryder is Spock's mother (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117975655.html?categoryid=13&cs=1).

Rachel Nichols says (http://www.torontosun.com/Entertainment/Movies/2007/11/07/4636948-sun.html) there's a good chance she'll be in the movie.

IESB (http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3677&Itemid=99) has pics of people milling around outside the set, one of whom might be (http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3680&Itemid=99) actress Jennifer Morrison.

[Just Jeans]

I've just read about Ryder's casting on SyFy Portal. I can dig it, I suppose. I like Ryder.

[Just Jeans]

SPOILERS, SPOILERS, SPOILERS (http://www.syfyportal.com/news424421.html)

Old Spock, young Spock, and yet another reason for the folks over at Bring Back Kirk to be mad.

Those are the latest reports coming from the set of "Star Trek XI," which began filming last week, as the leaking plot dam turns into a complete flood.

In a new report from IESB, some of how the Romulans -- led by Eric Bana's Nero -- is able to travel through time is through something that should be very familiar to original "Star Trek" fans. That's right ... The Guardian of Forever, a little touch of Harlan Ellison in the latest Trek movie.

According to a new rumor story, Nero and other Romulans from around the "Star Trek: The Next Generation" time period, head back in time through the Guardian of Forever and kill Chris Pine's Kirk. Somehow, an older Spock played by Leonard Nimoy, becomes aware of this, and heads back in time himself, creating a face-to-face with his younger self, now played by "Heroes" Zachary Quinto.

Spock then tries to set everything right, but in the process, fans get a sort of rebooted story featuring the Enterprise, Capt. Christopher Pike and everyone else.

Kirk doesn't just have a bit role in this film. He does get resurrected obviously, and we find him doing something that he only talked about in "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan" -- defeating the no-win cadet test scenario of the Kobayashi Maru.

Please note that none of this has been confirmed by anyone at Paramount, so it should be treated as any rumor would.

House M.D.'s Jennifer Morrison joins TREK (http://www.syfyportal.com/news424422.html)

Just a few days ago, one of the spy pictures from the "Star Trek XI" set turned up an actress that looked an awful lot like Jennifer Morrison of the hit Fox series "House." It ends up that it's not Morrison's long lost twin sister, but Morrison herself.

TV Guide's Michael Ausiello talked to "Star Trek XI" director J.J. Abrams to get confirmation that Morrison has indeed joined the cast, and that she is not playing Yeoman Janice Rand.

This is the first actor to be officially confirmed for the film that doesn't exactly include a character they will portray, and maybe there's a reason for that. It seems that Abrams worked hard to get her on board, describing her work in the first week of filming as "most excellent."

Morrison has played Dr. Allison Cameron on "House, M.D." since the show's inception, playing one of the former fellow doctors who worked with Gregory House. the 28-year-old actress got her start in the 1994 film "Intersection" when she was not even old enough to drive, and has appeared in other works including "Touched By An Angel" and "Dawson's Creek."

"Star Trek XI" began filming last week. It's stars include Leonard Nimoy, Zachary Quinto, Eric Bana, Winona Ryder, Simon Pegg, Chris Pine and Karl Urban. It's being readied for a Dec. 25, 2008 release.

[Cody]

SPOILERS, SPOILERS, SPOILERS (http://www.syfyportal.com/news424421.html)

In a new report from IESB, some of how the Romulans -- led by Eric Bana's Nero -- is able to travel through time is through something that should be very familiar to original "Star Trek" fans. That's right ... The Guardian of Forever, a little touch of Harlan Ellison in the latest Trek movie.


Harlan Ellison has heard about that, and has something to say to the filmmakers:
City on the Edge of Harlan Ellison punching you in the fucking face (http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=news&id=12523)

[Nick Michalak]

Anyone else realize that the plot of this film is essentially a direct rip-off of "The Terminator?" Assassins from the future (Terminator/Romulans) travel back in time to kill a major, pivotol historical leader (John Connor/Jim Kirk), but a protector (Kyle Reese/Spock) goes back as well in order to preserve the timeline. Honestly, can't Star Trek exist anymore without time travel stories? Didn't we have enough of it with Enterprise?

-NJM

[The Dark Vampire]

Anyone else realize that the plot of this film is essentially a direct rip-off of "The Terminator?" Assassins from the future (Terminator/Romulans) travel back in time to kill a major, pivotol historical leader (John Connor/Jim Kirk), but a protector (Kyle Reese/Spock) goes back as well in order to preserve the timeline. Honestly, can't Star Trek exist anymore without time travel stories? Didn't we have enough of it with Enterprise?

-NJM

With Enterprise at first i honestly thought it was a joke on Scott as well as a nod to Quantum Leap but by the end of the run it was just another time travel show.

Saying that I wouldn't mind a Star Trek series dedicated to The Temporal Integrity Commission. (Surprising name really I would of thought they would of gone with a simple Time Fleet)

[Just Jeans]

Anyone else realize that the plot of this film is essentially a direct rip-off of "The Terminator?"

They probably weren't even thinking about Terminator when they came up with the idea. Chances are, they were simply hunting for a way to reboot the mythology without outright ignoring the previous films, and this was their best option.

What I find ironic is that people are comparing the plot to Terminator, and Harlan Ellison is stark raving mad over the (supposed) use of one of his creations for the series: Ellison filed a lawsuit and got an out-of-court settlement over the original Terminator.

[Cody]

Quinto Spock here (http://www.jfxonline.com/jfxonline/2007/11/12/exclusive-quinto-as-young-spock/) and here (http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3698&Itemid=99).

[Just Jeans]

He certainly has the look.

[The Dream Master]

Christ, that's eerie. From a likeness standpoint, Abrams nailed that casting decision.

Added: I haven't read any of the spoilers, but I only want to know one thing, so if one of you cats can help me out, I'd appreciate it.

Do those spoilers at all indicate that Shatner will or can return for a cameo?

[Just Jeans]

I'd say that they indicate why Shatner very likely will not be in this film.

[DRE]

Not at all. The truth of the matter is, JJ and team have a scripted cameo all lined up for Mr. Shatner if he so chooses to accept it, but Mr. Shatner said he doesn't do cameos and wants a part as significant as Mr. Nimoy's, it seems the team is unwilling or is unable to alter the screenplay as written.

[Just Jeans]

And according to Shatner, he's been offered not so much as a walk-on. Such in the nature of 'The Industry'.

In any case, based on those plot spoilers, I'd say a Shatner appearance would be absolutely useless anyway.

[The Dream Master]

Thanks guys. That's kind of disappointing to me personally because, as I've said before in this thread, a cameo at the end of the film that reunites Shatner and Nimoy on the screen one last time would be a beautiful way to say goodbye to the original series.

[Just Jeans]

The Role For Jennifer Morrison On 'Star Trek XI'? (http://www.syfyportal.com/news424433.html)

As soon as it was clear Jennifer Morrison of the hit Fox show "House, MD" was part of the cast of "Star Trek XI," speculation ran wild on who exactly the actress would portray.

Initial speculation focused that on Yeoman Rand, something that was later denied by director J.J. Abrams. But then attention was directed to a major love interest of Capt. James T. Kirk, Carol Marcus, who was revealed in "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan" to have given birth to Kirk's son.

A SyFy Portal source, however, has a different story. New reports have surfaced that Morrison will play the first officer of the USS Enterprise under Capt. Pike.

"Gene Roddenberry wanted a woman in a high-ranking role on the show, but NBC wouldn't hear of it," the source said. "Now his wish of having a female XO under Pike is finally coming to pass."

The original role of "Number One" was credited to M. Leigh Hudec, but was actually played by Majel Barrett, who would go on to voice the ship's computer, and play a couple different roles including Nurse Chapel in the original series and Lwaxana Troi in "Star Trek: The Next Generation."

"Everyone wants to speculate on what roles these actors are taken on because of their looks, but they should actually be paying more attention to what might be meatier roles," the source said. "What's nice is that Number One will actually have a name."

Christopher Pike has already been cast with Bruce Greenwood, and both characters only appeared in two "Star Trek" episodes -- the original pilot of "The Cage," and its later bottle episode, "The Menagerie."

Of course, none of this has been confirmed by Paramount, so it should be treated as any rumor would.

"Star Trek XI" is expected to be released on Dec. 25, 2008. Variety has reported that Chris Hemsworth has been cast to play the father of Capt. Kirk while Clifton Collins Jr. will play a henchman to Eric Bana's Nero.

[DRE]

I haven't been this excited about a Trek film since First Contact, I'm loving everything so far! I can even look over the fact that I'm not convinced that Pegg and Cho will fit in.

[Just Jeans]

I haven't been this excited for a Trek film since Generations -- which really let me down, by the way -- so I hope Abrams really brings his A game.

Although, even if it is awesome, I hope Abrams only does the one film. He recently optioned The Dark Tower from Stephen King, and I'd hate for Trek to prevent him acting on that option for the next six or seven years. :|

[DRE]

I think Tower will be his next film if Trek is a success, there's no way anyone would option that great work and not do anything with it.

The Kirk aspect is the only thing that brings Generations down for me, otherwise it's a beautiful film to look at. Like X-Files: FTF, they do a great job of upgrading a TV Show for the big screen.

[The Dark Vampire]

If Generations was made now I can only think of the hype online to get/see the first official photo of Kirk and Picard together.

But it was still a great mark out moment to see it on screen.

[Nick Michalak]

The main problem with the TNG films was that it tried making Picard into this solo man of action. They mostly ignored the team aspect of the crew. In the series, it was almost never one person who saved the day - it was usually a team effort. Everyone contributed something, whether major or minor. Worf was undoubtedly one the most interesting and well-fleshed out characters of the series, but all he did in the films was fire phasers and beat people up - total waste. Simply put, I got tired of the Further Space Adventures of Picard & Data.

On the flip side, no matter how good or bad any of those first six films turned out, you always had Kirk, Spock, & McCoy to count on. Those three retained the heart and soul of Star Trek, as it had been since they first shared the television screen together. With this re-boot, I don't care how great the actors are, you'll never replicate that bond between Kirk, Spock, & McCoy. You watch that Spock death scene in Wrath of Khan, and try telling me some young, fresh cast is gonna match a bond as strong as that!

-NJM

[Just Jeans]

You watch that Spock death scene in Wrath of Khan, and try telling me some young, fresh cast is gonna match a bond as strong as that!

Possibly in 20 years, when they've got some history behind them and have had time to get to know each other off-camera. That chemistry -- or bond, as you put it -- between the core cast in the original films didn't just appear over night, it's something that developed over years.

I would hope that in this new franchise, to begin with, Spock, Kirk and Bones are slightly at odds. I'd like to see them grow into their relationships, not just suddenly blip in with them.

[Just Jeans]

Spock Looks A Little ... Different (http://www.syfyportal.com/news424452.html)

Zachary Quinto seems to be all fired up about playing the world's most famous Vulcan on the silver screen ... but something just doesn't seem to be adding up.

Some more spy pictures have leaked from the filming of "Star Trek XI" (http://canadian-turtle.livejournal.com/135329.html) in California, featuring the "Heroes" star as a much younger Spock. However, it's hard to look at the pictures and not think: Is Quinto playing a Vulcan ... or a Romulan?

The latest photos shows Quinto talking with director J.J. Abrams, wearing a white turtleneck and a very gray (but elaborate) sweater. While it would be difficult to know what kind of changes Abrams is making to the new Star Trek, it would appear by some accounts that the design of Quinto's clothing could be best described as Romulan.

Some questions do come to mind. Will the younger Spock have to blend in with Romulans? We know the older Spock -- played by Leonard Nimoy -- was left on Romulus in the timeline of "Star Trek: The Next Generation," which could be how Spock learns of the Romulan plans to disrupt the timeline.

However, at the same time, it's hard not to wonder if a fast one is being pulled on fans, or if Abrams maybe is getting a little confused between the pointed-eared races.

"Star Trek XI" premieres Dec. 25, 2008.
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Starship beams up Cross (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/film/news/e3ie3ee16106869ea728c60e3e0a50d6492)

Ben Cross has joined the crew on the Starship Enterprise.

The British actor has been cast as Spock's father in the J.J. Abrams-directed "Star Trek" feature for Paramount.

Cross will play the father of Zachary Quinto, who has been cast as the young Spock, and husband to the human Amanda (Winona Ryder). Leonard Nimoy, who originated the role, also will be a part of the film.

The movie, which began filming this month, revolves around the early days of the Enterprise crew.

Cross, best known for his role as the Jewish Olympic athlete Harold Abrahams in 1981's "Chariots of Fire," stars opposite Cuba Gooding Jr. in the upcoming "Hero, Wanted." Other upcoming credits include "War, Inc.," in which he stars opposite John Cusack, and "Species 4" for Sony.

[The Dark Vampire]

There's a Species 4 I haven't even watched 3 yet (probably won't the first 2 didn't interest me to much)

[Just Jeans]

It was a "SCI-FI Original", DV.

[DRE]

The original Species was a classic! Where else can you get Michael Madsen acting badass in the face of an alien, Forest Whitaker crying for the alien and Sir Ben Kingsley playing mad scientist! Classic! Not to mention, the beautiful Natasha Henstridge!

[Just Jeans]

'Star Trek XI' Being Shot 'As-Is' (http://www.syfyportal.com/news424469.html)

Typically, a writer's job doesn't end once the cameras start rolling. But in the case of "Star Trek XI," the words on the paper are the words that will end up on the screen.

The Writers Guild of America strike did not affect production of "Star Trek XI," which is now filming in California, in terms of creating a script, but it has become almost impossible to update some lines or even add new ideas since the WGA has tied the hands of director J.J. Abrams.

Screenwriter John August has been providing commentary online from the picket lines of the strike which has shut down many Hollywood productions, but even those that are continuing are struggling. And that includes Abrams along with "Trek" producer Damon Lindelof.

"Neither J.J. nor Damon are writers on the movie, but they are writers and WGA members," August said. "During a WGA strike, you're not allowed to write on movies or television shows, period. So they can't change a word of the script, nor can anyone else. The script they had at 11:59 p.m. Nov. 5 is the script they have to shoot."

While not having a director re-write lines may be a writer's dream, it's not when the director was involved in the writing process in the first place, and now can't make necessary changes discovered when producing a film.

"J.J. was describing a scene he was shooting the day before," August said. "Midway through it, he got a great idea for a new line, which he couldn't write, couldn't shoot, couldn't be in his movie. Damon described it like having one of your superpowers taken away."

"Star Trek XI" has been scheduled for a Dec. 25, 2008 premiere.

I get a really bad vibe off of this. The idea that the script is deadlocked into what they're currently filming seems a terribly risky prospect. They may not have had all the issues hammered out by November 5th. What if there are things that need to be changed? Do they halt production, or let these nasty little things through? :meh:

[The Dream Master]

That's very, very disconcerting news indeed. That has to be a frustrating situation, though.

[Esten]

So, the actors can't even improv some things? Jeebus.

[Cody]

So, the actors can't even improv some things? Jeebus.

Improv should be alright, as long as the actor isn't also a WGA member.

I don't have a link handy, but I did read a quote that said the script was in fine condition before the strike.

[Just Jeans]

If we're lucky, the meeting the WGA had with studios today will clear up the strike. I know that's hoping for a lot, but it'd let Abrams continue to develop his script, as well as possibly save this TV season from obscurity.

[Nick Michalak]

Abrams should just be like Robert Rodriguez and pull his membership. The DGA wouldn't let Rodriguez put Frank Miller's name in the title of "Sin City," and thus, terminated his membership. Shit like this, makes me view these guilds as assholes. If J.J. wants to change a line, he should have the creative freedom to do what he likes on his own goddamn film, and not worry about the regulations of some asshole Writer's Guild. If it were me, WGA member or not, I'd fucking do what I like, and screw those guild bastards. I wouldn't let this strike keep me from making the very best film I possibly could.

-NJM

[Fan of Freddy]

Abrams should just be like Robert Rodriguez and pull his membership. The DGA wouldn't let Rodriguez put Frank Miller's name in the title of "Sin City," and thus, terminated his membership. Shit like this, makes me view these guilds as assholes. If J.J. wants to change a line, he should have the creative freedom to do what he likes on his own goddamn film, and not worry about the regulations of some asshole Writer's Guild. If it were me, WGA member or not, I'd fucking do what I like, and screw those guild bastards. I wouldn't let this strike keep me from making the very best film I possibly could.

-NJM

That's damn near exactly what I was thinking when I read over that.

Plus, the script is for the most part, finalised and the film had already gone into production well before the strike. So the way I see it, I don't think the strike or the rules set by the Guild should have any bearing on this movie at this point in the process.

[Cody]

George Takei is in (http://trekweb.com/articles/2007/11/30/George-Takei-to-Appear-in-New-Star-Trek-Movie-Spoilers.shtml) for a cameo.
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OK (http://trekmovie.com/2007/11/30/rumor-control-george-takei-not-appearing-as-sulu-in-new-star-trek-movie/), maybe not.

[DRE]

Shatner fans would have stormed the battle front if Takei had made it in and not Mr. Shatner.

[Cody]

Blurry spy pics (http://www.jfxonline.com/jfxonline/2007/12/10/kirk-and-the-orion-slave-girl/) of Kirk and a slave girl.

[DRE]

"Kirk? You're still alive old friend?


Welcome to Star Trek, Chris Pine! It's gonna be great to have a young ass kicking James Kirk again, but he's just got to mimic the Shatnerisims, it won't be Kirk without them.

[simonthekillerewok]

Blurry spy pics (http://www.jfxonline.com/jfxonline/2007/12/10/kirk-and-the-orion-slave-girl/) of Kirk and a slave girl.

God I hope that isn't Kirk's uniform hat they use predominantly in the movie LOL... it looks terrible

[Just Jeans]

Those pictures are just a little too blurry for me to judge the outfit on the whole, but I agree that, at least in these photos, it's not very flattering at all.

[Just Jeans]

Kirk Cameo Killed by Continuity (http://www.syfyportal.com/news424540.html)

It seems the producers would very much like to include William Shatner and his older alter ago of Capt. Kirk in the new Star Trek film. There's just one problem: He's buried on top of a mountain in some distant solar system thanks to Capt. Jean-Luc Picard.

"From our point of view, we are still hoping to find a way" to put Shatner in the movie, said Roberto Orci, one of the producers on "Star Trek XI," to SciFi Channel's SciFi Magazine. "One of the difficulties that was brought up and discussed with Shatner, when we all met him and pitched him ideas, is that Trek fans are sticklers for their canon. Unfortunately, Shatner's Capt. Kirk was killed in 'Star Trek VII,' so the difficulty there is not just ignoring that or explaining it away in an unsatisfactory way merely to get him back in. That's the struggle: the rigors of canon and not phoning it in just to have a cameo."

As much as they would like to include Shatner, however, Orci described it as a "long shot," mirroring responses from the actor himself in recent weeks about his involvement (or lack thereof) in the film.

With all this attention being paid to canon, it still raises an eyebrow when Orci talks about a potential reboot of the franchise, something that has happened in other major universes in the film and television world in recent years.

"We all felt it was an incredible world that has existed for 40 years, and like some other great franchises -- be it Batman or James Bond -- it needed a boost by finding a new approach to the story and the world," said Bryan Burk, a producer on the new film. "It was too great to let it go away or continue on its current path."

Unlike other movie projects, the original producers attached to this incarnation brought with them a lot of ideas and previous investment into "Star Trek XI" -- and they have made it such a strong introductory movie, they don't want people calling it "Star Trek XI" anymore.

"Even if you were a fan back then or you haven't see the last few [movies], with that title you might think it's like tuning in to 'Lost' now and that you'll never catch up," Orci said. "So it's so important to get out the message that this, in a way, is 'Star Trek Zero.' It's a reintroduction. We designed it so that if you know everything about Star Trek, you will have one kind of an experience, because you will pick up on all kinds of references. If you are not a fan, those things will be an introduction, and it won't require you to know anything."

"Star Trek XI" premieres Dec. 25, 2008.

[The Dream Master]

The producers of this just need to go back to the idea I posted earlier in this thread if they really want to bring Shatner back (it wasn't my idea, but I still think it's a damn good one).

[Just Jeans]

'Trek' plot hinged on Nimoy's involvement (http://www.syfyportal.com/news424549.html)

J.J. Abram's "Star Trek" movie could not have been made without original series star Leonard Nimoy. And that's fascinating.

In a recent interview with SciFi Wire, "Star Trek XI" co-writer Roberto Orc confirmed that the story will take place before the events of the original series, and will delve into previously unexplored Trek history.

"There was lots of stuff we wanted to do, and that was a blessing," Orci said. "With the original series, there was so much that could have come before it. It felt like it has been 'The Next Generation' and 'The Next, Next Generation' for so long, it seemed like a fresh thing to go back to the source and to go back to what happened before it."

The screenplay calls for the appearance of Nimoy as the iconic Spock.

"The truth is that we took a gigantic gamble in terms of the movie we wanted to do, and it was essential that we had Nimoy." Orci explained. "We didn't have a Plan B. It was a gigantic gamble, and I can't even believe that J.J. supported that kind of a gamble, but I think he understood it was the way to do it and a way to get the blessing for Star Trek, to show there is continuity for the spirit of what it was before. So when Nimoy said yes, not only as a fan was it was a relief, if that didn't work, I don't know where we would be."

Orci, who recently co-wrote the hit movie based on the "Transformers" animated series and toys (with partner Alex Kurtzman), said that adapting Trek was even harder because of the avid fan base that is keenly aware of messing with canon.

"The dangers are that now you are opening up yourself to the fact that the fans know what you know about the characters," Orci said. "So the goal with this movie is twofold. One is to make sure that the fans--who have been the stewards of the continuity and who are some of the most savvy and intelligent fans of any franchise ever--that they be satisfied with anything that has the name 'Star Trek' on it. But, more importantly, the goal is really to introduce casual fans and people who don't know 'Star Trek' at all to this universe and to connect it to today. The goal of 'Star Trek' is that if you don't like sci-fi or know 'Star Trek,' this will bring you into the world."

"Star Trek XI" opens in theaters on Christmas Day 2008.

[DRE]

Oh Roberto, making nice with the hardcore TOS Trekkies, I see.


We know damned well if Nimoy had said no, the entire thing would be a Batman Begins style reboot, as opposed to a "Reset." I wonder, has any other series ever hit the rest button like this before?

[The Dream Master]

We know damned well if Nimoy had said no, the entire thing would be a Batman Begins style reboot, as opposed to a "Reset." I wonder, has any other series ever hit the rest button like this before?

I can't think of any film franchises, but the various Crises in the DC Universe/Multiverses are similar in that they didn't exactly throw out continuity, but created a new, splintered timeline.
ADDED:
It appears that there's yet another reason to see Cloverfield (not that I really needed one):

Trek Trailer to Debut with Cloverfield (http://trekmovie.com/2007/11/30/star-trek-teaser-coming-with-cloverfield/#more-1313)

[DRE]

Tyler Perry (Of "Madea" fame) has joined the cast of Star Trek as the head of Starfleet Academy!



UGO is reporting that actor/writer/director Tyler Perry will appear in JJ Abrams new Star Trek film and TrekMovie.com can confirm this report. According to the UGO report Perry will be portraying the head of Starfleet Academy and he has already shot his scenes. Perry is probably best known for his series of ‘Madea’ films starting with the 2005 hit Diary of a Mad Black Woman.
More below…includes spoilers.

According to the UGO report Perry’s big scene is overseeing an assembly at Starfleet Academy where Kirk is facing expulsion for cheating on the Kobayashi Maru. Apparently Chris Pine delivers a stirring Kirk-like speech and then discovers that the person who ratted him out was none other than Spock himself (Zachary Quinto). More at UGO

TrekMovie.com can confirm + more details
Back in September TrekMovie.com first reported that Kirk’s famed solution to the Kobayashi Maru ‘no win-scenario simulation’ would be seen in the new Star Trek. Just this week TrekMovie was tipped off about a role for Perry as well as the post-Kobayashi Academy scene. But UGO beat us to the punch while we awaited confirmation and more details (which is now moot). The only things to add are that this scene was shot in the Long Beach City Council chamber and that there is also some kind of student protest over Kirk not being expelled and actually being ‘promoted.’ The protest might be part of the same scene described at UGO or a different scene shot at the location. In Star Trek II Kirk noted that after being caught for cheating he got a commendation for original thinking. It is possible the source was talking about a commendation instead of a promotion, or maybe Kirk was also promoted.

This will be the first time Perry will appear in a film project that he did not write or direct. TrekMovie.com has also learned that Perry is a bit of a Trek fan and that this may have been how he got involved. It is also worth noting that, although it may not be the reason Perry was cast, having such a high profile African-American celebrity can help the new Star Trek film (which can use a bit more diversity in its cast).

About Perry
Tyler Perry is a popular, highly-successful playwright, actor and director known for his comic morality plays. His most memorable character is that of Mabel “Madea” Simmons. Ticket and DVD sales for his plays have grossed over $75 million. Film adaptations have also turned out to be hits grossing over $200 million combined in domestic box office. In addition the 38-year old native of New Orleans stars in his own hit television series called House of Payne, currently airing on TBS (it is worth noting that Perry has written and directed every episode).

Perry has won two BET Comedy Awards, a Black Movie Award and has been nominated for two MTV Movie Awards and two Image Awards. He also wrote a best-selling novel called Don’t Make a Black Woman Take Off Her Earrings: Madea’s Uninhibited Commentaries on Love and Life, which was voted the Book of the Year and Best Humor Book at the 2006 Quill Awards.


This is so far out of left field, I think it's great casting! Madea In Space!

[Just Jeans]

I like Tyler Perry, but my first thought was that he seems a bit young for the part. For some reason, I imagine the head of Star Fleet Academy being around Don Warrington (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Warrington)'s age. But I'm sure Perry can pull it off. :)

[DRE]

I'm also excited that we finally get to see Kirk take the Kobayashi Maru test, that's worth the price of addmission alone.

I think JJ has a real winner here. All that would make me go crazy for this film (As everyone goes crazy for The Dark Knight) would be a cameo by Patrick Stewart, but since that seems unlikely I will still enjoy the film, I'm sure.

[DRE]

I present to you...The Enterprise! (http://trekmovie.com/wp-content/uploads/star-trek-uss-enterprise-b.gif)




And her crew!

http://www.iesb.net/images/stories/premierepics/1IMG_0993.JPG

Spock & Kirk


http://www.iesb.net/images/stories/premierepics/3guys-1584.jpg

Sulu, Chekov and McCoy


http://trekmovie.com/images/cloverstcast/15303171anthonypascale117200820835PM.jpg

Uhura


Those were taken at the Cloverfield premiere. Simon Pegg (Scotty) couldn't make it. But I think JJ casted spot on, and I can't wait till Christmas!

[The Dream Master]

I caught the teaser for this in front of Cloverfield tonight, and it was just that: a big tease.

I loved it, even though I figured we'd get the "Space, the final frontier..." bit, and it was good to hear Nimoy deliver it. Consider me pumped.

[Jack Bauer]

If people on YouTube start giving out the hidden messages and clues from Star Trek teaser trailer, I shall laugh.

[Scarecrow]

This movie is really beginning to interest me...

Star Trek just hasn't been as good since DS9 ended but this is looking pretty damn awesome so far.


- Scarecrow

[Cody]

A nice story (http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35328) about JJ Abrams contacting a professor/Star Trek fan who's been diagnosed with terminal cancer and giving him a cameo and line in the film.

[Sketch Sanchez]

the teaser was really cool. It didnt even have a title either, it just showed the starfleet logo and then the words "under construction"

[Just Jeans]

J.J. Abrams: You're Dead, Jim (http://www.syfyportal.com/news424644.html)

William Shatner still doesn't know why he's not in the upcoming "Star Trek" film, but director J.J. Abrams does.

"I think they're coming to the end [of shooting, so] they've got another three weeks to hire me," Shatner told USA Today while promoting "Star Trek: The Tour." "No, I don't think you''ll be seeing me, unfortunately, and I don't know the reason why."

But Abrams, who found success over the weekend with the biggest January premiere ever in "Cloverfield," said the reason is simple.

"The only reason Mr. Shatner is not in the movie and Mr. [Leonard] Nimoy is, is that this character died on screen," Abrams said. "It was very difficult, and now impossible with the writers strike. It is very difficult to find a way to put him in that didn't feel like we were putting him in just because we were huge fans of his."

That has led Shatner to express some regret in allowing Kirk to die in "Star Trek: Generations" back in 1994.

"The mistake I made was thinking I could make it a spectacular death with what they had written," Shatner said.

The actor, who has won two Emmys as Denny Crane in the ABC lawyer comedy "Boston Legal," has been pushing for Abrams to include him in the upcoming movie despite the fate of his character 14 years ago.

"Star Trek" is continuing filming in California, and will debut Dec. 25.

At least Shatner realizes what a pitiful swan song Generations was.

[The One and Only]

The teaser in hi-def glory. (http://www.paramount.com/startrek/)

Well if you didn't like Generations check out the Shatner penned novels. Starting with The Return, and up to my favorite, The Mirror Universe Trilogy, with Kirk back and kicking butt. Anywho, saw the trailer last night before Cloverfield ,and all I can say is that I'm definitly abuzz for this flick. Especially after that whole Matt Damon as Kirk rumor turned out to be untrue. So is this a total reboot ala Ultimate Trek,or more of a Year One approach ?

[Just Jeans]

Well if you didn't like Generations check out the Shatner penned novels.

I've done some reading up on his novels. I'm not enamored with the concept. I might get around to reading them one day, but they're not high on my priority list. I just think it's a shame that Generations has managed to shoot a Shatner return in the foot.

[DRE]

Both Shatner and Christopher Lambert shot themselves in the foot by not demanding better exits before they signed on and took the check.

[The Dream Master]

Shatner has aged. A lot. To bring him back at that age and pretend he was from prior to Kirk's death didn't sit well with anyone. Even Shatner is now saying "I wish I hadn't let them kill me." A bad plot device to "pass the torch" from one captain to the next is what created this issue, not a lack of creativity on the part of the current production team.

I'm sure they'd have thought of something -- they may even have an idea -- but they can't do anything with it.

See, the idea I read to get around the age issue involved Spock arriving back to his own time at the end of the film (assuming he's successful, you know), only to find Kirk alive. Spock of course knows Kirk is supposed to be dead, but it would seem that something occurred when he went back in time that prevented Kirk's death in Generations .

Mind you, it's not the greatest explanation and involves a bit of retconning, but I think it'd be a beautiful way to allow Shatner to have a swan song, too.

[Just Jeans]

Abrams wasn't looking to wedge Shatner in for a cameo. I think the idea was that Shatner and Nimoy both play integral roles in the film's plot, but the end of Generations prevents that. I think the idea you suggested is a good one to get Shatner in by any means necessary, but I don't think they'd gotten to that point by the time the strike started, I think they were still trying to work out a way to allow Shatner to contribute more than a cameo.

[The Dream Master]

Well, the strike has all but assured us that it's probably not going to happen.

However, I'll hold out hope that the strike gets resolved in time for a quick pick-up that allows Shatner to at least have a cameo--it'd be better than nothing, after all. And hopefully, all the Trekkies (and Shatner himself) will realize that it's not meant to slight Shatner at all by relegating him to a cameo. After all, this is absolutely the last chance he'll ever have to play Kirk again.

[DRE]

Shatner himself has ruled out a cameo. He said if it is not meaningful to the overall plot, he won't do it.

[The Dream Master]

It's a shame he has that mindset, too. I mean, I can kind of see where he's coming from, but you'd think he of all people would like to have a second chance to send Kirk off in a proper fashion.

[Just Jeans]

I don't see how a quick cameo would be a proper send off. Even the idea you suggested would, in the end, feel like just so much fan pleasing retconning rather than like it adds anything substantial to the mythology.

PS: I haven't said it yet, but damn -- the new Uhura is fine.

[The Dream Master]

Kirk being alive and well (instead of dying a pitiful death like he did in Generations) seems pretty substantial, and it would be a more fitting end to the character.

And of course it would be fan-pleasing retconning. Wouldn't it be nice if that kind of thing happened more often? :)

[Just Jeans]

Kirk being alive and well (instead of dying a pitiful death like he did in Generations) seems pretty substantial, and it would be a more fitting end to the character.

Thing is, as pitiful as Kirk's death was, it's over and done with. Not every story has to have a happy ending, and I actually rather like the idea that Kirk died defending the universe from chaos. Even if it was executed badly.

In the end, I see no point in undoing what Generations did if they're not going to follow up on it somehow. And since the books have already created a splinter continuity in which Kirk keeps going, there's no reason to create a third.

[DRE]

I agree with that Jeans.

Data and TNG didn't have the best of endings either, that's just the way the cookie crumbles.

[Scarecrow]

Saw the teaser trailer, very evocative. Perhaps this will be what Enterprise SHOULD have been...


- Scarecrow

[Patrick]

I agree with that Jeans.

Data and TNG didn't have the best of endings either, that's just the way the cookie crumbles.

That still pisses me off to this day. I loved Data and for him to get blown to bits and leave B4 behind was kinda crappy. Yes, B4 has Data's memories, but still...

[Biosynthnut v.2]

That still pisses me off to this day. I loved Data and for him to get blown to bits and leave B4 behind was kinda crappy. Yes, B4 has Data's memories, but still...

Well as far as books go....B4 is shut down, Riker is gone, and the BORG are back:eek:

[hack slash]

Abrams wasn't looking to wedge Shatner in for a cameo. I think the idea was that Shatner and Nimoy both play integral roles in the film's plot, but the end of Generations prevents that.

Jeans, if time travel is part of the plot couldn't they explain Kirk is able to be in the new movie that way?

[Just Jeans]

No, because Shatner and Nimoy are so much older now than they were when Generations was released. Nimoy's Spock is obviously from much later in the future than circa Kirk's disappearance.

[Nick Michalak]

Shatner knows how much the character means to him and to fans. He's not gonna show up for five seconds in a cheap plot twist just so people can go crazy for Kirk again. Bill doesn't need the paycheck. So, if he's ever to return to the role, it's going to be something significant and worthwhile. Nimoy obviously has a pertinent and central role in the film's plot, and so, there's nothing cheap about his return as Spock. Though, he's always had the same mentality. He didn't want to come back as Spock, ever, unless it was really worthwhile and poignant. That was the reason for Spock's death in Wrath of Khan. So, both men know the legacy of their characters, and by no means, wish to cheapen it. So, even if it means that Kirk's curtain call remains the lackluster and disappointing Generations, Shatner would rather leave it at that than further diminish the character with meaningless 'back-from-the-grave' cameos.

-NJM

[Cody]

'Star Trek' pushed back (http://www.variety.com/VR1117980912.html)

Paramount is pushing back the release of J.J. Abrams' "Star Trek" from Dec. 25 to May 8, 2009, saying the pic's gross potential is greater as a summer tentpole.

"Star Trek" has no competition in its new slot -- at least not so far, although it opens one week after 20th Century Fox bows "X-Men Origins: Wolverine" and one week before Sony is slated to bow sequel "Angels and Demons."

[The Dream Master]

Hrm. This makes this year's slate of flicks a little less enticing, but it'll probably be worth the wait. Besides, I really wasn't looking forward to going to the movies Christmas night anyway.

I wonder if the strike had anything to do with it, too?

[DRE]

Not cool. They're gonna kill the film just like they did with Nemesis.

[The Dream Master]

You think so, DRE? I've kind of balked at Star Trek being a holiday release since it was announced. I think it's more suited to be a summer film.

[DRE]

I mean, I know this is a new kind of Star Trek but, can it really stand up to other summer films?

[The Dream Master]

I'm not really sure. You're a bigger Trek fan than I, so you would probably know more about the subject. I'm not sure what next year's slate looks like yet, but I think Star Trek could do well as a summer release. If it looks good, people will go see it, I think.

[DRE]

Yeah, I'm not sure what it's going up against either, so it may have a fighting chance.

[The Dream Master]

I think a summer release date is more likely to rope in general audiences than a Christmas Day release would have done. I can't imagine too many people (besides the hardcore fans) rushing out to see it during that time of the year.

[DRE]

And it gives them time to get a Shatner and Patrick Stewart cameo. Wishful thinking.

[The Dream Master]

I was thinking the same thing about the Shatner cameo (which probably won't happen). I'm not sure how they'd fit Patrick Stewart in, but I'd be all for it if they could figure it out.

[Fan of Freddy]

Well, thinking about a Stewart cameo, the film starts off in the TNG era, if I remember. And someone has to take Spock to that time portal thing from City On The Edge of Forever (If that is still being used as the time travel device). Perhaps he can hitch a ride on the Enterprise E?

Though, I highly doubt they'd put in Stewart if they aren't putting in Shatner. If they did the Shatner fans would go ape shit on JJ.

[DRE]

I believe The Shat is in it, but they are trying to maintain the surprise. But then again, his ego would not accept a mere cameo.

[Patrick]

Knowing Paramount, they'll do something to fuck it up.

[DRE]

Here's a look at the new teaser poster that features Kirk, Spock, Uhura and Eric Bana as Nero (The main baddie):


http://img.trekmovie.com/images/hiresposter2a.jpg


They are also available as desktops here:

http://www.startrekmovie.com/

I think they picked spot on with these four and most of the others.

[kiss_armyman1]

Any New Star Trek will this camper very happy!

[TheShowstoppa]

o_O It's completely amazing how much like their former counterparts they look like - ESPECIALLY Zach Quinto! Like... WHOA.

This just hyped that movie up for me 10 fold. I can't wait now.

[Cody]

Kevin Smith (Sort of) Reviews Star Trek (http://trekmovie.com/2008/08/22/kevin-smith-sort-of-reviews-star-trek/)

Host: So thumbs up on The Watchmen, what else you got?

Smith: I saw a movie last night that I cannot talk about.

Host: Was it good?

Smith: It was phenomenal.

Host: Any stars, any break out stars, and do they trek?

Smith: The stars absolutely trek in this film. It is fantastic. Anybody who was worried doesn’t need to be worried–about this film I cannot talk about…It was in very capable hands. The director did a phenomenal job–the director and his crew. Top notch cast and the guy that plays the lead is an instant star. That dude is going to be so famous. He is so wonderful. He picked up a role that I would say is pretty challenging for someone to step into the shoes of, because it is a role that has been played before many times by the same guy.

Host: How do you out Shatner, Shatner?

Smith: I don’t know what you are talking about.

Host: I was just saying that as an expression.

Smith: Yes, absolutely, in a world of expressions, I would agree with that…I am so not good with this game, you are going to bury me man.

[Sean [The Wildcard]]

Quite a few pics have made their way online today:

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http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc216/homeofhorror3/homeofhorror4/stpp6.jpg

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http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc216/homeofhorror3/homeofhorror4/stpp.jpg

Sources:
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/38753
http://trekmovie.com/2008/10/15/more-star-trek-images-enterprise-crew-nero/

[The Dream Master]

Trailer to play before Quantum of Solace (http://www.imdb.com/news/ns0000003/#ni0584533)

Paramount may be doing rival MGM a favor by showing the first full-length trailer for the new Star Trek movie when the James Bond movie, Quantum of Solace, opens on November 14, the website TrekMovie.com suggested today (Wednesday). Disclosing Paramount's decision to link the trailer with the movie, the website observed, "Our current poll states that 45 percent of Trek fans will see 'any movie' or 'almost any movie' just to catch a glimpse of the trailer." Meanwhile, Star Trek director J.J. Abrams has responded to a YouTube video posted by William Shatner in which Shatner denies Abrams' claim that he "tried desperately" to put him in the movie and insists that Abrams never contacted him or anyone connected with him. In an interview with MTV News, Abrams said, "I think what happened was, I said we made many efforts or something to get him in the movie. I think he or his people interpreted that as we reached out and tried to get him in. I meant internally. ... I didn't wanna present him with something we didn't believe in. So we were trying to make this thing work, and it didn't happen."

As for the pictures, I still don't know about Pine as Kirk, but I'll wait to see some action shots first.

[Just Jeans]

As far as his look goes, I just don't think Pine is right as Kirk. But it's the performance that'll seal the deal, so I'll wait to see that.

Loving Simon Pegg lingering in the background there. God bless 'em.

[Monkey]

As far as his look goes, I just don't think Pine is right as Kirk. But it's the performance that'll seal the deal, so I'll wait to see that....

I thought they miscast Heath Ledger as the Joker... until I saw the Dark Knight.

Time will tell.

I'm looking forward to this movie. I had no interest in "Deep Space Nine", "Voyager", or "Enterprise". I only followed Star Trek, and TNG. Since the TNG movies fizzled out, and the original crew is too old (or too deceased) to make another flick, this was the only way I'd go back to the theaters to see another Star Trek movie. Unfortunately, we know the main cast of characters are going to make it through alive, so much of the suspense is removed (much like Star Wars Episodes 1-3). This may have already been pointed out...

[Jack Bauer]

Amazing pics. I think I may have to see this...when I get a chance.

[Just Jeans]

I thought they miscast Heath Ledger as the Joker...

I don't think they miscast Pine, per se, I just don't think he looks the role as well as some of his fellows.

[DRE]

I think with Kirk, Abrams purposefully separated him from Shatner. Pine has said he will not be doing a Shatner impersonation, which is just fine by me. I think he'll do great.

[jasonlives13]

I must say its look like

[TheShowstoppa]

Anyone finding it odd that the tightest sealed movie since the internet appeared has released some pretty amazing photos short of 8 months before it comes out? Either way, the sets and cast looks pretty amazing. I can't wait to see this.

[Just Jeans]

Looking at the photos again, I've just realized that the Enterprise set looks busy. Way busy.

[jasonlives13]

Looking at the photos again, I've just realized that the Enterprise set looks busy. Way busy.

perhaps the enterpirse is gong into battle, and I wonder why spock is strangling kirk???

[Nick Michalak]

I'm surprised at how much Karl Urban looks the part of McCoy. I think the hair really does the trick. Simon Pegg is too out of focus to judge, but there's not much of a lookalike cast here. The actors portraying Chekov & Sulu definitely look nothing like Walter Koenig or George Takei. Since when did Chekov have curly hair anyway? Beyond that, he didn't even join the cast until the second season. So, I don't see why he's even included in a prequel. At the time this is set, he'd probably still be in Stafleet Academy.

-NJM

[The Dark Vampire]

The best I can think of is he may of joined the crew in season 2 but that doesn't mean he didn't go to the academy with them other than that he could of been part of the crew before but got transferred for a while

[Just Jeans]

Well apart from the fact that this film is the spawn of an alternate time line, DV makes a good point. I don't think it was ever stated on the show that he didn't serve with the crew on the Enterprise prior to season 2.

Didn't Kahn know who Chekov was in The Warth of Kahn despite Chekov not having been on the ship during Kirk and Co's first encounter with the guy? I seem to recall a fan theory spun around the notion that Chekov was on the ship, he was just in a different position and didn't work on the bridge.

perhaps the enterpirse is gong into battle...

I was thinking more in terms of set design than the number of people on the bridge. The original sets were a little more spartan -- even in the feature films -- but in this they seem to have really dressed the hell out of the set.

I wonder why spock is strangling kirk???

Something to do with Kal-if-fee maybe? :X Don't get between a male Vulcan and his honey, yo.

[Nick Michalak]

Kirk entered Starfleet Academy a whole 13 years earlier than Chekov. I don't see how they could be in the academy at the same time. The Enterprise was his first assignment out of the academy, and so, anytime prior to the start of the original series, Chekov is still in Starfleet Academy.

-NJM

[Just Jeans]

Not so much in this alternate time line, apparently.

And let's be fair, that's just the production team's way of avoiding the dreaded "reboot" label, which is basically what this is. If they do a ton of sequels following up this film, they're not going to follow the same narrative path as the TV series or theatrical films.

[Just Jeans]

New Star Trek Movie Is Intentionally Cheesy (http://io9.com/5064844/new-star-trek-movie-is-intentionally-cheesy)

As long as we only saw glimpses of the new Star Trek, we could convince ourselves it was going to be cool and sexy. But as soon as the first proper images from J.J. Abrams' movie turned up the other day, the truth came out: it's going to be dorky, retro, cheesy and a little embarrassing. In other words, it's going to be exactly what you'd expect a semi-faithful remake of the 1960s cheesefest, written by the Transformers scribes, to be like.

Abrams is the master of misdirection, so it makes sense that he kept us guessing so long. Just like with Cloverfield, where we only glimpsed the monster but saw tons of splodey footage and crying hipsters until the movie finally came out. Or Lost, where tons of hand waving obscures a premise that will probably turn out to be a bit silly when it's finally explained.

But this time, he may have miscalculated: if Trek was coming out in December as originally planned, the images of miniskirts and way-too-shiny sets would just have time to percolate through our consciousness, priming us to greet the movie eagerly in a couple of months. But as it is, we're going to be pretty saturated with retro-schlock images by the time the film actually bows.

The biggest problem with a new Trek is one we fingered months ago: nostalgia. And the 1960s original series is the most overloaded of them all — it's like some sixties band that played Woodstock, which has two of its original members left and goes around doing the classic songs. People will throw beer bottles if the band doesn't do the song from the truck commercial, the one everyone knows the words to. Trek is like that — Star Trek is Country Joe and the Fish.

So you're kind of screwed either way in remaking the original series — you either stick too close, and it's retro and silly. Or you change stuff around, and it's just sort of generic. Because Trek influenced everything, the less faithful your imitation of Trek, the more it'll look like every other science fiction franchise.

So inevitably, you pick and choose: which embarrassing elements do you keep, and which do you discard? And judging from the pictures, J.J. Abrams made diametrically the wrong choice: he tossed out the clunky Enterprise bridge, and kept the miniskirts and go-go boots.

Why would I have done the opposite, if my name was suddenly J.J. Anders? Let's start with the cocktail waitress uniforms. Even in the 60s, I have a feeling they were a bit hard to take seriously. But today, the idea that a paramillitary research organization would outsource its women's uniforms to Forever 21? It feels a bit odd. You lose a bit of credibility as a space navy by putting your womenfolk in those outfits.

And then there's the "Apple Store" bridge, which J.J. insists is actually cooler than the Apple Store. I can believe that, because I've never found the Apple Store especially cool. It's the place I used to go every few weeks when my old ibook's faulty logic board died for the umpteenth time, so a "Genius" could stare blankly at me. To me, the look of the Apple Store says 2002, so the new Enterprise bridge looks instantly dated.

Here's what I would have done: first of all, duplicate Captain Pike's bridge, which looks sort of the way you could really imagine a first-generation starship might look. Complete with those weird lamp things coming out of the captain's chair and consoles. That version of the bridge is accurate to the time period where this movie is set, but it also looks as though the ship could blow up at any moment, because it's an early model. I kind of like that slightly grungy submarine-esque aesthetic. And you'll also notice that in the original pilot, "The Cage," the women have pants. Or at least, Number One does. So you could be canonical and slightly less ridiculous.

(I should be clear, though: I don't really care about canon. The moment there were more than two episodes of Star Trek, the show started contradicting itself. And this movie isn't aimed at the die-hard fans. So Abrams could have ditched the bridge and the miniskirts, and I wouldn't have complained.)

Anyway, that leads me to the bigger problem with these images: everything is so shiny. I know that it's airbrushed to hell for Entertainment Weekly's readers, but still. Everything has a sort of plasticky action figure like sheen. The images remind me of nothing so much as the Bill Paxton live action Thunderbirds movie.

The other thing that really hits me after looking at these images is the thing many people have commented on: these stars look hella young. Especially Kirk and Spock, but some of the others as well. It's another thing, similar to the miniskirts, that makes me not really take Starfleet seriously as a space navy: this group of young whippersnappers apparently meet up as cadets and end up forming a little clique, which then takes over the flagship of the fleet. They don't all advance separately through the ranks, in the whole wide fleet, and then meet up as crewmates later.

But at least Kirk and Spock are still homoerotic, as you can see from the Entertainment Weekly cover where their nipples are grazing.

So, to sum up: it's ridiculously retro, it's unthinkingly homoerotic, it's a cheesefest worthy of Michael Bay, and it's a gift to fanboys, who will probably hate it anyway. And yet, I predict Star Trek will be the biggest money-maker of the summer of 2009 anyway. To the point where I'll be writing articles with headlines like "Can Any Other Space-Cowboy Movies Measure Up To Star Trek?"

Because the way things are going, we're going to need some brain-candy. In the throes of an economic shitstorm the likes of which our grandparents only dimly remember, we're not just going to need massive escapism and fluffy fun, we're going to need a massive dose of nostalgia. The only way the United States gets to be a major space power — or a superpower, period, the way things are heading — is by looking in the rear view mirror.

And despite all of the multi-culturalism and the token African, Russian and Japanese crewmembers, Trek was always about America. It was about an America that was big enough to absorb people from different cultures, or even different species, and strong enough to explore the four corners of the universe. (If the universe had corners.) It's the happy, here-to-help version of American imperialism, and we probably need to wallow in it a fair bit right now.

If I think of this as a generic B-movie space adventure, then I actually feel sort of excited and intrigued. It's only when I realize how retro and self-indulgent this Trek rehash will be that I feel a bit more meh.

[Nick Michalak]

I think this guy is really going off the deep end from a few stills. Also, the Enterprise didn't become the flagship of Starfleet until the Enterprise-D in The Next Generation. The in the Original Series, I believe it was the U.S.S. Yorktown.

-NJM

[Alex DeLarge]

My hope with this film is that it's number one goal is the same of that as the new series of Doctor Who: do not forsake new viewers for the sake of fanboys. That show has shown you can placate old fans while at the same time, making new ones. My biggest fear with this film is there won't be any new Star Trek fans coming out of it. That a regular guy who might BECOME a Star Trek fanboy will either not see or (worse) see it and dislike it because it tries too hard to worship the past than embrace the future (*COUGH*Superman Returns*COUGH*). Star Trek should boldly go where no man has gone before, and if it's nothing but a love letter to the 1960s show, then they're going where man has already been...:p But I think J.J. Abrams is a great director so I have faith.

Yay! Just read a bit from the new Entertainment Weekly. "We weren't making a movie for fans of Star Trek," he (Abrams) said. "We were making a movie for fans of movies." :D! Woot, woot!

[Sean [The Wildcard]]

Good 8 page Article HERE from EW. (http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20233502,00.html?cnn=yes)

as well as some more new pics: (http://www.ew.com/ew/gallery/0,,20233788,00.html?iid=top25-20081018-%27Star+Trek%27%3A+11+new+photos!)

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[Nick Michalak]

Honestly, I don't think Paramount would've gone forward with this film if they didn't have full confidence of its potential. Trek has been dried up and worn out for a horribly long time. It got stale a good 10-12 years ago. It hardly seemed that anyone's heart was in it anymore, or at least, nobody involved had enough talent to back it up. If Paramount wasn't confident that J.J. Abrams could produce a fresh re-launch of the franchise, they'd still be looking for someone else. Granted, studios aren't always right, but they know, if this fails - Star Trek is certifiably dead. They won't be able to do another successful movie or TV show for another decade, at least. This is putting it all on the table, and letting it roll one last time. It'll either be their biggest jackpot in who knows how many years, or it'll be snake eyes and they'll be busted. There's simply no middle ground. This film has to do BIG blockbuster numbers, and stand prominently alongside its fellow summer blockbusters to keep the franchise going. Simply said, they can't afford another "Star Trek: Nemesis." That was an awful film.

-NJM

[Scarecrow]

That picture of the Enterprise looks like a flying saucer with a giant eye coming out the middle!


- Scarecrow

[Alex DeLarge]

That picture of the Enterprise looks like a flying saucer with a giant eye coming out the middle!


- Scarecrow

Look at the picture again. It says "USS Kelvin" in huge letters. Enterprise it is not.:p

[jasonlives13]

That picture of the Enterprise looks like a flying saucer with a giant eye coming out the middle!


- Scarecrow

Its actually the USS Kelvin, I only know that cos thats what it says on the registration part of the saucer section

[Just Jeans]

That picture of the Enterprise...

That's not the Enterprise.

Easy mistake to make -- I thought the same thing when I first looked at it, but then I read the registration on the saucer. :p

[Scarecrow]

Not so much mistake as not caring. :p That picture of the ship was what I went to type but then figured Enterprise would be clearer... ah well.


- Scarecrow

[Sean [The Wildcard]]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_n3eH1jI8AZ8/SRooVAcW-QI/AAAAAAAAMF8/SJ6A3ygUNy4/s1600/enterprise.jpg

Details of Star Trek Sneak Peeks Revealed (http://spoilertv-movies.blogspot.com/2008/11/details-of-star-trek-sneak-peeks.html)

*SPPPOOOILLLLERRRSSS*
JJ Abrams revealed four new sneak peek clips for Star Trek at a London press conference and here are the full details of the clips.

First Scene: Our introduction to James T Kirk; a swaggering braggart who's hitting on Uhura one moment and punching cadets in the gob another.

It's a scene that thumps from the screen from the opening shot - Uhura half walking / half dancing to bass-heavy dance music as she takes her place next to a glass-hugging alien (who looks like he's been barred from his local Cantina) who's all lips and scales and frowns.

Ordering from a weird menu covered in spinning 3D glowing options, Urhura is interrupted by our farm boy hero, full of confidence and twinkle-eyed charm.

Kirk bullies her into giving up her name by saying "If you don't tell me, I'll just make one up" when she replies, he responds "That's funny, that's the name I would have given you."

But Kirk's patter is quickly paused by a Starfleet cadet keen to defend Uhura's honour with threats and insults.

Kirk kicks off and takes on four cadets, taking three of them out with three punches, only to be pinned down by the biggest, and handed a bloody nose.

James T is rescued by Captain Christopher Pike who sits him down for a paternal chat. Pike challenges Kirk to join Starfleet before leaving him to his thoughts.

Cut to: The Star Wars shot - hopeful youth dwarved by his expansive lush surroundings - a speeder dot flying across a landscape he hopes to escape.

Cut to: The Star Trek shot; Kirk, sat on his speeder bike, gazing up at a half built Enterprise. Massive, majestic, goosebumps.


Second scene: Kirk's been banned from the Enterprise launch, but Bones has got him on through a loophole that lets medical officers bring a patient onboard - and has injected him with some weird serum to fake an illness.

Unfortunately, the serum causes Kirk's hands to swell up like something out of the Klumps and his tongue to to turn numb. Not the best circumstances to be in when you need to race to the deck of the Enterprise to warn the crew of a trap you've just overheard on the com system.

Fusing slapstick comedy with drama and gravitas, packed with nods and winks to the fans - this scene was our first real look at how JJ's going to pull this flick off.

It's packed with references - a "Damn it, Jim" here a Chekov lost in translation scene there - but they never exclude newbies.

You don't need to know Chekov swaps his Vs for his Ws to guffaw at the bit where he has to repeat his oral password, you don't need to have met Bones before to get his character; he's a fiery friend to Kirk from the first moment we see him.

Ending on the most exciting Warp we've seen (straight into the action); we're dealing with pure Trek here. And make no mistake - whoever the casting director is, invent a Best Casting Oscar and hand it to them.

Karl Urban is channelling DeForest Kelley, whilst Pine's charisma is present even when he's selling a scene in which he's got hands the size and shape of the Elephant man's face.

Third scene: Leonard Nimoy's Spock and Christopher Pine's Kirk, meeting Simon Pegg's Scotty for the first time.

This Scotty seems to have come from the barrowlands of Glasgow, not the Highlands of Scotland - at one point he tells his Jawa mate to "Get tee..." (fill in the blank youself, Scottish readers); surrounded by half finished space-ships and warp drives, buried in a forgotten workshop somewhere in Starfleet.

In the space of about five minutes, Spock tells him how to invent a transporter, so they can send Kirk back to the Enterprise. Despite the context of the scene, it's remarkably free from technobabble, and full of emotion.

We nearly welled up at the bit where Pine's Kirk says to Nimoy's Spock: "Travelling back in time, changing things, isn't that breaking the rules?" and Spock replies: "It's a lesson I learnt from an old friend." before bringing out a bit of the old "Live long and prosper." This is the Star Trek flick geeks have prayed for.

Fourth Scene: The best of the bunch - a free-falling action scene mesmerising in its scope and scale - encompassing the coolest redshirt death scene we've ever laughed at, a Sulu sword fight, and the best use of the transporter device we’ve encountered. Fanboys will weep with joy.

[The Dream Master]

Must...resist...spoilers...

[Sean [The Wildcard]]

The only BIG one which you may want to avoid is the Third Scene. The others are just simple scenes that I put in spoiler tags just in case.

[Spook]

You know, I've never really been a big Star Trek guy. I love the original series, and Wrath of Khan is a fantastic movie. Otherwise, I've never really followed anything after that. I think WOK was the only Trek film I've seen. With that said, I think this new film looks very promising, and will hopefully convert me to a bigger fan. I still think Karl Urban has been the best casting. I find it uncanny how much he looks like a younger McCoy, and that's just from the stills.

[Sean [The Wildcard]]

I don't know how long this will still be online, but the new trailer has been leaked:

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[DRE]

I love it! A lot!

[Just Jeans]

I'll be waiting for the HD download version (bound to be on Dave's Trailer Page).

[jasonlives13]

Looks sweet can't wait

[Penhall]

I'm a HUGE Trek fan, particularly of the Original Series, and I just cant seem to get into this. The pics have done nothing, and the trailer does even less.

I'm just not a fan of remaking TOS. And lets face it people, thats what this movie is. Sure, they threw Nimoy in there to please the die-hards, but the movie is a re-boot of TOS.

I dont wanna see that. I dont wanna see someone other than Shatner in the role of Kirk. I dont care how "amazing" Chris Pine is. Shatner is Kirk, and thats that.

Why couldnt they just start out with a new Enterprise crew set centuries after TNG?

I wanna be excited for this movie, and I'll of course see it. But why remake TOS??? I love TOS. I LOVE it. And I just dont wanna see it remade with new people.

But like I said, I'm sure I'll still be there opening weekend......

[jasonlives13]

I'm a HUGE Trek fan, particularly of the Original Series, and I just cant seem to get into this. The pics have done nothing, and the trailer does even less.

I'm just not a fan of remaking TOS. And lets face it people, thats what this movie is. Sure, they threw Nimoy in there to please the die-hards, but the movie is a re-boot of TOS.

I dont wanna see that. I dont wanna see someone other than Shatner in the role of Kirk. I dont care how "amazing" Chris Pine is. Shatner is Kirk, and thats that.

Why couldnt they just start out with a new Enterprise crew set centuries after TNG?

I wanna be excited for this movie, and I'll of course see it. But why remake TOS??? I love TOS. I LOVE it. And I just dont wanna see it remade with new people.

But like I said, I'm sure I'll still be there opening weekend......


I can fully understand, it would be the same if they changed the role of picard and had someone else playing him, Im lookin foward to this flick but until I see it I can't say I'll hate it, or like it

[TheShowstoppa]

I dont wanna see that. I dont wanna see someone other than Shatner in the role of Kirk. I dont care how "amazing" Chris Pine is. Shatner is Kirk, and thats that.



Ya know, they said the same thing about a movie and a villian that came out this summer. I still hear the distant former cries of the naysayers, Jack will always be Joker. Ledger will have nothing on him.

The naysayers can be wrong. I grew up with TNG, so them remaking the OS doesn't hurt my feelings at all. It brings up a whole new aspect for me to watch and a new series to fall for. With that said - after this summer - there is no one actor that can define a character. Period. Ledger proved that beyond anything.

They made that trailer to look like an Epic war film, but all of the points up in the previous posts lead us to know that it's going to be cheesy. wtf?

[The Dark Vampire]

Why couldnt they just start out with a new Enterprise crew set centuries after TNG?

I wonder if they will ever do this it would be good to see a new series but set after TNG I wouldn't say set it centuries after TNG-TNG was set 70 years after the OS so no more than 100 years after should be great with the Starship Enterprise NCC1701-G

[Penhall]

Ya know, they said the same thing about a movie and a villian that came out this summer. I still hear the distant former cries of the naysayers, Jack will always be Joker. Ledger will have nothing on him.

The naysayers can be wrong. I grew up with TNG, so them remaking the OS doesn't hurt my feelings at all. It brings up a whole new aspect for me to watch and a new series to fall for. With that said - after this summer - there is no one actor that can define a character. Period. Ledger proved that beyond anything.

They made that trailer to look like an Epic war film, but all of the points up in the previous posts lead us to know that it's going to be cheesy. wtf?

I understand what you're saying about Ledger and The Joker, but I think it was a different situation.

Sure, some people said that Nicholson could never be replaced, but he only did one movie.

The TOS crew have been around, playing these roles for 40+ years. To have someone new come in and take over these roles when they've been played by the same people all this time is different, IMO.

[jasonlives13]

True Jack Nicholson did only play the joker once, its part of the reason why people prefer chris reeves as superman because people grew up with watching him and he is superman to alot of people, when someone else steps in, its like this guy can't pull it off, but even still TOS have been playing there characters for many years and I would of prefered a new series set after TNG, but we'll have to wait and see

[HiCkMaN!]

I'll be honest i hate star trek but after watching the leaked trailer i kinda wanna see it looks awsome.

[Spook]

Better quality version of trailer:

http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/startrek/

[Biosynthnut v.2]

I'm geeked for it. :D

[The Dream Master]

I've watched the trailer a few times now, and to be honest, the only part that really bugs me is the beginning with little Kirk; I don't know, but something about that just seems cheesy and unecessary. However, the rest of the trailer looks fine. I hear a lot of Trek fanboys are upset about the Enterprise apparently being constructed in Iowa and Spock looking pissed, and I guess I can see their point; however, I'm not a huge Trek fanboy--I love the original series, The Next Generation, and the films so I guess changing things a bit doesn't bother me too much (plus, there might be a good reason for these changes). Also, I'm still not sold on Pine as Kirk, but the rest of the cast looks fantastic, especially Pegg.

[Just Jeans]

Based on the trailer, I think they've chosen to focus much heavier on Spock's lineage, so they're going to infuse him with a little more of the emotion that comes hand in hand with being half human. Personally, I don't see the issue with that.

Anyhoo, I really liked it. It looks totally awesome. I'm gonna try to go opening night. I particularly like the direction (that swooping shot across the bridge of the Enterprise was awesome).

[jasonlives13]

yeah ill probs go on open night, does anyone know if the release date is the same for around the world

[Scarecrow]

This will certainly e interesting. Can Star Trek be saved from geekdom and made mainstream again?


- Scarecrow

[Penhall]

I'm starting to warm to this a bit more. Look, I'm a picky bastard when it comes to Trek, especially TOS. So I have many reservations about the movie. From some of the casting, to the set/ship designs and story stuff. But it does look like it might be pretty good. I just wish Shatner was in it too. To see him and Nimoy together again in a Trek movie would be awesome for a fanboy like me.

And Kirk is my favorite Trek character of all time, so to have Shatner there to pass the torch to Pine would really help me get into it. But I guess I have to accept the fact that he's not. It'll be great seeing Nimoy again, though.

I'll give the movie a chance. I hope its good, because this really is Trek's last chance to come back. If this one tanks like Star Trek Nemesis (which i really liked BTW) then the franchise is really done.

[jasonlives13]

one of the problems I have is the ship (inside) looks too white and "alien" like, there should be netural and darker tones, not saying the interior should be black cos thats stupid but you know what I mean

[Rich]

I just saw the trailer, and I was very impressed. The modern special effects look amazing for a Star Treck story. If only we had the technology we have now back in the 70s (I think) when the first Star Treck film was made. Now, that would have been one hell of a film. i'll be beaming myself to my nearest theater this may "fo' shizzle."

[Spook]

I found the first film to be really boring. Even if today's special effects were available back then, it still would have been a boring movie. Now, The Wrath of Khan is a different matter...that's what got me into Star Trek. I am really looking forward to this film.

[Penhall]

I found the first film to be really boring. Even if today's special effects were available back then, it still would have been a boring movie. Now, The Wrath of Khan is a different matter...that's what got me into Star Trek. I am really looking forward to this film.

Not to get too far off topic, but have you seen the Director's Edition of the first Trek movie? Its been re-edited with some updated effects and its a much better film.

The first Trek movie never was an action film or anything, but the Director's Edition tweaks it just enough to make it much stronger. Still flawed, but a good film.

[Spook]

I've never seen the director's edition. I'll have to check that out. I'd consider myself a Trek fan, it's just that the first film seemed more focused on creating some breathtaking effects rather than having a driven story.

[Just Jeans]

The first film's plot is painfully dull. All the big time special effects in the world wouldn't rectify that particular shortcoming.

[Darth Sinister]

Well, the thing with the first film is that it is essentially the pilot for the aborted relaunch of the television series. It sticks out because of this and it was even mentioned that the film did rely more on the effects than the story. The film does have its moments, but it lacks the full charm that was there in the sequels.

[Just Jeans]

New internet-only trailer.

HD 480P (http://downloads.paramount.com/mp/startrek/Trlr2_internet_480p.mov) (52.5Mb)
HD 720P (http://downloads.paramount.com/mp/startrek/Trlr2_internet_720p.mov) (110Mb)

It's practically identical to the theatrical trailer, except Nimoy turns up at the end. :eek:

[jasonlives13]

Intriguing

[Cody]

The first issue of the four part comic book prequel came out yesterday. The story's set-up begins 8 years after Nemesis.

[TheShowstoppa]

Wait... Why would they start the story 8 years after Neme... OH! I forgot that there are evil guys who come from the Future to kill Kirk.

Dammit... All the good comics are coming out after I'm out of comics... and have no money for them.

[jasonlives13]

Wait... Why would they start the story 8 years after Neme... OH! I forgot that there are evil guys who come from the Future to kill Kirk.

Dammit... All the good comics are coming out after I'm out of comics... and have no money for them.

Don't worry you'll find some way mate

[Darth Sinister]

Yeah, the mini-series shows how Spock winds up going back in time and features Picard. It will probably also address why the Enterprise E doesn't go back to stop them, since that's the kind of thing that they normally do.

[The One and Only]

Hellacool trailer (http://www.newsarama.com/common/media/video/player.php?aid=26468) that puts the "Hella":evil: in hellacool.

Anywho, has anyone here read the prequel comic ,Countdown, written by Abrams' co-writers, Alex Kurtzman and Robert Orchi which tells the origin the flick's villian, Nero. At the end of the first issue in the future Nero and Spock encounter the Enterprise and it's captain, Data. Who is still functioning apparently.

[TheShowstoppa]

See... I'm starting to think the rumors about the film being campy are all false. All of these trailers that have been coming out have been EPIC. That last one was amazing, and quite frankly, I can't fucking wait to go see now more than ever. Amazing that we're only 2 months away now.

[The Dream Master]

I caught the newest trailer in front of Watchmen, and it was indeed fucking epic. Sent chills up my spine, even.

[jasonlives13]

:DI caught the newest trailer in front of Watchmen, and it was indeed fucking epic. Sent chills up my spine, even.

I was pissed off when I went to see watchmen, since they played the old star trek trailer I was like WTF!!!! ah well at least my pals on here have found it online, it looks cool but I don't know the music at the start sounded like the dark knight, and there was just some parts that were "random"