Jason X

[BlakeTyner]

Grab the BFG and cower in fear as Jason goes where no (well, maybe most) serial killers have gone before - space!

Cool points will be deducted if you didn't like UberJason. :D

~BT

[Nancy Thompson]

Sorry tell you the truth i just did not like JasonX alot. Jason in Space turn me off it.

But i did like some of the deaths in the movie.

[The Taff]

The movie was horrible, even by cheesy slasher movie standards.

[Rich]

This movie had the greatest death scene in all of horror. Frozen head smash!!

[Mutant Leprechaun]

What can I say about Jason X except that it's probably the most fun to watch Friday the 13th ever. And it's not like Slasher in space is such a new premise (Leprechaun 4: In space, Hellraiser IV: Bloodline).

It's not my favourite of the later entries but it 's a great laugh.,

[Wheatjedi]

I more or less enjoy this film, but I hate Jason's pre-Uber mask and afro. They're just messed up.

[The Dream Master]

Jason X is the sixth worst sequel of all time. (http://movies.aol.com/movie-photo/worst-movie-sequels)

Interestingly enough, Jaws 3-D made the list. I guess they never bothered to watch Jaws: The Revenge.

[The Tall Man]

DM, stupid as it is, Jaws 4 isn't boring.

Put me in the liked JX pile. I still want my own Kay-Em.

T.M.

[Jigsaw]

The movie was horrible, even by cheesy slasher movie standards.


I agree. It was a disgrace to the series IMO.

[Fan of Freddy]

I've always felt that Jason X had potential to be a good way to end the series. They just went about it all wrong. To much camp and cheesy humor when it could have been a very dark, serious movie. From what I've heard the early drafts had more of that kind of tone. That would have been the way to go if you ask me. Mix a bit more of the sci-fi element and you would have had a hell of a slasher movie

[The Dream Master]

You can thank Cunningham for how things turned out.

[Fan of Freddy]

Cunningham had way to much control over the New Line films in the series. They should have had him step aside when JGTH bombed. Granted, I enjoy that one, so it's more forgivable.

[The Dream Master]

You'd better be glad NLC stepped in when they did, though--otherwise things would have turned out even worse. They really saved JGTH, especially, but I think they couldn't quite salvage Jason X for me.

[Dead Cell]

Do tell. I'm always interested in behind the scenes shenanigans.

Jason X... well... hm. I said it on the last test forums and I'll say it here- from what I understand the script was getting rewritten on a daily basis. That tells me it wasn't that strong of a script to begin with. Taking that into consideration though, it's amazing Jason X wound up being half decent at all.

The kills were fun and the popcorn was edible.

[The Dream Master]

Well, for one thing JGTH was never going to be about Jason at all, but NLC basically told Cunningham they wouldn't release it.

Tall Man has a lot of good material along these lines, so I'll wait for him to post it. I'm sure he'll pop back in here sooner or later.

[The Tall Man]

Arg! Do I have to write that stuff out all over again? I'll come back later and do that.

Dead Cell, you're absolutely wrong. The script was fine. Cunningham would just come up with his own ideas and rape the script. No, seriously.

T.M.

[Rich]

That is a flawed list. First off, they have Superman 4 on there, when that movie was way better then Superman 3. Then they have Blair Witch 2, when that was way better then the first one. Then they have Jason X, but no Nightmare sequels.

[BlakeTyner]

That is a flawed list. First off, they have Superman 4 on there, when that movie was way better then Superman 3. Then they have Blair Witch 2, when that was way better then the first one. Then they have Jason X, but no Nightmare sequels.

You really liked Blair Witch 2 better than the first one? I actually enjoyed the sequel quite a bit, but it felt too "movie-ish" to me. The first one really captured "reality" in my mind. Did you watch the first one when it came out, and they were still promoting it as having actually happened? I watched the SciFi special a month or so before BW came out, and it just really had me psyched. The creativity of the backstory was just mindblowing to me.

~BT

[The Tall Man]

Rich, despite what you may think of them, none of the Nightmare movies are particularly poorly made from a technical standpoint. That may have been part of their criteria.

T.M.

[CampNewBlood]

I really enjoyed Jason X. Yea, of course, it could have been better. But it's isn't as bad as JGTH, IMO. The ending was left open, so there COULD be more sequels to Jason X. I'm not saying there SHOULD be a Jason X-2.....just like there most definately shouldn't be a FvsJ 2.....but there could be.

Honestly, I would rather see a Jason X-2 before I would a FvsJ 2.

[sCabbOy]

I thought JGTH was much BETTER than this. When I watch JX It's hard to find ANYTHING redeeming about it. Usually I say "the camp scene" was good...

[CampNewBlood]

That's my favorite part...the camp scene....I guess because of the trip down memory lane with the original's music playing.
And when it shows Uber Jason up close and the thunder clouds are swirling behind him, that's pretty cool too.

[Wheatjedi]

Well.... Lexa Doig is always nice to see.... :) And yeah... the camp scene is a personal favorite.

[Shoesalesman]

It's a stand-alone movie that just happens to be a F13 movie. Fairly entertaining flick; the female characters were easy on the eyes, the deaths were pretty cool, and the pace was excellent.

Favorite scene: nipples falling off and plinkin' to the floor. Classic! ;)

[Dead Cell]

Dead Cell, you're absolutely wrong. The script was fine. Cunningham would just come up with his own ideas and rape the script. No, seriously.

I know what it's like to have those sudden moments of inspiration where you think of something that's so cool, it must go into the story, but at some point you have to step back and let it go. Unless, of course, you're George Lucas. At which point you can go back to any of your 20+ year old movies and keep tinkering and tinkering and tinkering and hope that maybe one day you get it to perfection. :p

Any idea where I can find the original script before it got mutilated?

[James M]

This is the only Friday film I just plain don't like at all (Freddy Vs. Jason at least has its fight scenes going for it). In the like six years it's been out, I've seen it three times all the way through. Once in the theatre, once after that online (Hey, I bought the DVD when it came), and once on DVD. I tried to watch it on DVD another time, but couldn't get all the way through. The short Jason Voorhees documentary on the DVD is better than the movie itself.

[kramerfan]

I despise this crap sequel.I do like the kills ad the crystal lake flashback but thats it.Ive aways noticed that when hes hitting the sleeping bags against the tree the 2 girls are laughing.

[CampNewBlood]

Maybe the ship had a glitch in the system that caused the girls to laugh....seeing that the ship was about to explode...lol.

[The New Blood]

This movie really sucks. It was a totally lost opportunity. IMO, the overall premise was cool and had lots of potential, but the way it was done was terrible. Uber Jason looked like a power ranger, the odd colored flashing lights all over the space ship and the idiotic humor really killed it for me. Manfredini failed to come through with a proper score also. I can't believe the people who made this disaster are actually fans of the series.

[The Tall Man]

New Blood, it's hard to do a good job when you're being stymied by a person who's jealous of Jason.

T.M.

[The New Blood]

New Blood, it's hard to do a good job when you're being stymied by a person who's jealous of Jason.

T.M.

I don't really understand what your saying.

[The Tall Man]

Cunningham fucked up JX just like he fucked up JGTH (though not nearly as bad). Cunningham is jealous of Jason because while he created "Friday the 13th", Jason is really the work of Steve Miner, and he hates that. He thinks "Friday the 13th" is about Crystal Lake... not Jason. Jason's not his icon and it drives him nuts.

Oh, by the bye, I think Todd said like only 25% of his script made it into JX.

T.M.

[Rich]

The script was very different then the finnished product. I have read it myself.

[girlychaos]

I can't say I don't like it cause any movie with Jason in it is always welcome (IMO). But it's far from being one of my favorites and there are a lot of things that are just really wrong....do I have to say what those are? No...I didn't think so! :)

[Wheatjedi]

Bad hockey mask design and the Brillo Pad afro!! :)

[girlychaos]

You forgot to mention......space! :p :D

The afro is just sooo weird!!! What was that?? :confused:

[Wheatjedi]

I have no idea. I saw Jason X on opening day 5 years ago, and my first thought when I saw that was along the lines of, "WTF???"

[girlychaos]

I saw it on the big screen too....I didn't get it why he had that thing at all!

[Wheatjedi]

I wonder who had the bright idea of doing that to him? I would think Hodder would have spoken up about it. He certainly had an opinion as to how Jason would behave.... I would think he wouldn't have been shy about saying, "Jason doesn't have a 'fro."

[girlychaos]

Yeah...LOL

That thing was just wrong!

[Wheatjedi]

No doubt! It's like... "He can kill everyone in sight and then take care of those tough grease stains with his tough, Brillo Pad 'fro!"

[girlychaos]

Eww...

LOL

You're right though...I wonder whose idea was that now! :confused:

[SmiTheReeNs*]

By far the worst jason look...they had jason fully regenerated but not quite like he was back in Parts 3 and 4..and they decided to give him a brand new hock

[Shoesalesman]

The hock looks pretty cool, but not on Jason.

[Rich]

I like the way he looks in this movie. I thought he looked better in this then he did in Parts 8 (evil frog), 9 (Krang from Ninja Turtles), and FVJ (Frankenstein monster).

I don't care about the hair, because if you overlook it, his look is closer to the earlier looks.

[The Tall Man]

You guys make serious points about Jason's look and they're all seemingly victims of jackassery.

Re: Jason's hock-- they COULD have used the old molds from Fridays 3-9, but the guy doing the mask wanted to make his own design mask... make his own mark on Jason... pissing on him, you could say. Thankfully, when New Line themselves did FvsJ, they had the sense to go back to the 3-9 molds.

Re: Jason's appearance... Wheat, it wouldn't be the first time Kane was stymied on Jason's look. On JGTH, KNB made Jason with his left eye as the good one when it should have been the other way around. Kane took one look at the makeup and said (direct quote) "You boys got the wrong eye in there." KNB wanted to fix it and took it to Sean for some more time. Cunningham said "Nobody cares about Jason's eye" and that was the end of it. I have never heard, but I can imagine Cunningham saying the same thing for JX: "nobody cares about Jason's hair."

See guys, Cunningham has no business making Friday movies. I'm still not unconvinced that the best stuff in Friday 1 was directed by Steve Miner...

T.M.

[Brett H.]

You guys make serious points about Jason's look and they're all seemingly victims of jackassery.

Re: Jason's hock-- they COULD have used the old molds from Fridays 3-9, but the guy doing the mask wanted to make his own design mask... make his own mark on Jason... pissing on him, you could say. Thankfully, when New Line themselves did FvsJ, they had the sense to go back to the 3-9 molds.

Re: Jason's appearance... Wheat, it wouldn't be the first time Kane was stymied on Jason's look. On JGTH, KNB made Jason with his left eye as the good one when it should have been the other way around. Kane took one look at the makeup and said (direct quote) "You boys got the wrong eye in there." KNB wanted to fix it and took it to Sean for some more time. Cunningham said "Nobody cares about Jason's eye" and that was the end of it. I have never heard, but I can imagine Cunningham saying the same thing for JX: "nobody cares about Jason's hair."

See guys, Cunningham has no business making Friday movies. I'm still not unconvinced that the best stuff in Friday 1 was directed by Steve Miner...

T.M.

Sean Cunningham, Steve Miner and Robert Hiltzik need to have brunch together. They'd all have lots to bitch about.

[Rich]

What does Sean really have to bitch about though? So what, Jason as a character was more Kurz's and Miner's then his, but who owns Jason now? Who makes a shit load of money every time a movie is made? He gets the money.

[The Tall Man]

Rich, I don't get it either.

However, the fact of the matter is, whatever it is and for whatever reasons, we lose out because of it.

T.M.

[Dave Dunwoody]

I didn't mind Jason's more-human regenerated look, nor the hock - in fact it's probably one of my favorite in the series. I dig his "prison duds" too, with that big collar and the chains.

[Rich]

I liked the look of both Jason and the Uber-Jason.

[Utellme]

Even though this one is very low on my list it had some good things going for it. A different approach even though it did'nt work for most Kane Hodder Uber jason id rather watch this one then JGTH all though thats not saying much.Also this has more kills then any other Friday film

[The New Blood]

As much as this one sucks, it still does atleast have a few cool scenes to offer and I think its really cool that Blake Washer appears in the end credits.

[Ron]

uber jason looked like lord zed(sp?) from power rangers.

[Dead Cell]

In issue 41 of Rue Morgue, page 36 Cunningham said about Jason X:

Rue: "You don't have any desire to direct anymore?"

Sean: "Well as a producer you're involved in it, but the energy is just totally different. But producing, you still end up putting in a bunch of time and you can inspire yourself to still care, and try to make it as good as you can."

Rue: "Are you pleased with how Jason X came out?"

Sean: "Well let me put it this way, I never liked anything I made. I still think there are a couple of really good movies in me, but I just haven't been able to make them. I just haven't figured out how to do it."

The bit about inspiring himself to care; at that point he'd been involved with what, 3 Friday movies? And considering there was a nice, long, 20 year break for him between part 1 and part 9, I find it hard to think he'd been burned out on the project.
But... in his defense, if I were sitting in a room with a bunch of guys talking all afternoon about how to put Jason in space, I might not care either.

ME: "So, there's this camper that got away. And now she's an astronaut. Jason's sitting in his shack in the woods watching TV."

Producer Dude: "There's no electricity in the woods!"

ME: "No, no, he's got a generator outside the shack. And he's watching TV and sees her getting on-board the shuttle. So he packs up right then and heads for the Kennedy Center!"

Writer Dude: "What?! That's in a completely different state! You know the countdown only goes for 10 seconds."

ME: "No, see, cuz Jason is fast. FAST, FAST. And he sneaks onto the shuttle-"

Some other Dude: "With a million cameras and security and everything?"

ME: "Well then he kills security! And the cameras can't pick him up, because he's all supernatural. All they get is static!"

Everyone: "Whaaa-at???? Since when?"

ME: "And the shuttle takes off with Jason still in it! So they're in space, the great equalizer! Now he's like a helpless baby floating around!"

Everyone: "WHAAAA-AAAT???"

[Ron]

the liquid nitrogen head smash is one of my favorite kills of all time.

[Shoesalesman]

I'm surprised this movie still gets the beating it does. :confused:

The idea of "freezing" Jason a la Demolition Man is an old idea that works well here for Jason. If you can't kill him, keep him under wraps and file him under V for Voorhees. It may or may not have worked (okay, in the movie it sure didn't work) but it's a new way to look at ridding the world of Jason, albeit for a short time.

[JVY2K]

I'm surprised this movie still gets the beating it does. :confused:

The idea of "freezing" Jason a la Demolition Man is an old idea that works well here for Jason. If you can't kill him, keep him under wraps and file him under V for Voorhees. It may or may not have worked (okay, in the movie it sure didn't work) but it's a new way to look at ridding the world of Jason, albeit for a short time.

The thing with JX is it was doomed from the get go. NLC never had any faith in the project and didn't back it with much of a budget. Certainly nothing close to the calibre budget FvsJ got. When Todd set out to write the script, he had an amazing story in his head. And the script itself is an amazing read. The project just never had any heart. If NLC had allowed the kinda budget FvsJ was allowed, JX would have been far better. Then we have to take into consideration the length of time it sat on the shelf and the amount of people who opted to watch bootlegged versions. That and the made for TV style it was filmed in along with NLC's lack of faith in the project is what lead to the movie we got...

For what it is, I love JX. Though I love anything with JX. The chyro freeze idea was genius. Basically an extreme version of Tommy's plan to trap Jason. I love the film for what it is, a wild ride completely different from the originals and a whole new setting for Jason. I even enjoy his appearance in the movie. And it must be said that the opening sequence is one of the best openers in any Friday. Especially the eye movement in the beginning. Great stuff right there! And the battle with Jason's quick reflexes taking out the grunts? Awesome!

[SmiTheReeNs*]

Nice avatar JV..JX is watchable but Jasons total look made wanna turn off the dvd player..im glad i didnt pay for this film.once again im like wtf wit Jasons look? he really looks human here..wait a minute..he looks like kane hodder haha..they definetly didnt do a good budget on any type of makeup!

[Autobotsdie]

To me Jason looked like a robot on steroids after he got reanimated.

[CampNewBlood]

So, is Jason still alive?.....on Earth 2?

[Rich]

We will never know CNB, because they will probably never ever re-visit this story ever again. It was a complete bomb in theaters and I can not picture them making a sequel following the same story...ever.

However, there were sequels in the form of novels. They may be out of print by now, but you can still get them from amazon from sellers. If you are that interested in the continuation of the Jason X story, look into the books, because I doubt they will ever make another movie following that story.

[CampNewBlood]

Yea I have been meaning to get those books. I see them on eBay all the time.

But if they can have a Freddy vs. Jason 2, there can be a Jason X-2, IMO. Not that there is going to be either one, but you know what I mean.

[JVY2K]

Nice avatar JV..JX is watchable but Jasons total look made wanna turn off the dvd player..im glad i didnt pay for this film.once again im like wtf wit Jasons look? he really looks human here..wait a minute..he looks like kane hodder haha..they definetly didnt do a good budget on any type of makeup!

Thanks man. I found it an an old disk of saved F-13 stuff. It was drawn by an old school poster from back in '98 or '99, Cyclonus. I've always loved it!

As for Jason's look, you've just gotta apply the regeneration factor man. Makes his look in JX make all the more sense.

To me Jason looked like a robot on steroids after he got reanimated.

Yeah, I hated his Uber look. Personally I like to think it was just a temporary incasing while his body was reparied within.

So, is Jason still alive?.....on Earth 2?

Like Rich mentions, it's slim to done that a sequel to JX will ever be made. It'd have to take a really good script for that to happen. Anythings possible in Hollywood but this door seems firmly shut forever.

I like to think though that after crashing into the lake, Jason emerges from the depths fully regenerated back into his human self, having shed to Uber gear. Only now he has a new ability. He can heal himself instantly. Kinda like the T-1000. Would make a good movie in my opinion...

[French Friday]

3 main failures in Jason X :

1) The virtual Crystal Lake scene should have been played STRAIGHT and not as a parody. Funny the first time, deadly annoying the next ones.

2) UberJason, with a) NO big "wow" when he appears on screen for the first time, just badly edited, or scripted, or shot, I don't know. Just flat first appearance. It just doesn't work. And b) UberJason kills NO ONE directly. He just walks during the whole end of the movie...

3) Spaceship way too clean. When you want to rip-off Alien, keep everything, not just the storyline. A spaceship in an horror movie needs to be dusty and dirty, when will people understand ?

Now, the stalking was not that good too (the one in JTM was way better, to compare with another F13 in a ship) but well, the kills were good to great.

Too much comedy, and contrary to JL, not enough darkness to balance it.

Best thing in Jason X : the epilogue !

Thanks to that falling star and these campers, a theory can be created to link Jason X to the future and obvious Friday the 13th remake : UberJason just flied through a wormhole while burning, and landed on our Earth 1, in the lake where Jason will drown that same night.

Either it's our Jason, and Jason X makes a full circle with the original Friday the 13th, arriving in 1957, the two campers being Claudette and her boyfriend. Either it's remake Jason, and the year and names of the campers will be defined when the remake will be out, making Jason X the perfect link between the original series and the remake series.

I'll try someday to edit a shorter version of Jason X, but the failures won't be fixed easily with editing I'm afraid.

And I read the original Todd's draft, and it wasn't that good at first. So even without Sean rewrites, Jason X has not been destined to be a masterwork since day one.

[Rich]

But if they can have a Freddy vs. Jason 2, there can be a Jason X-2

I don't know about that. To my knowledge, Freddy vs. Jason made a $30 million profit, while Jason X lost a couple million.

Uber look. Personally I like to think it was just a temporary incasing while his body was reparied within

That is how I think of it too. See, he regenerates tissue, so as he regenerates, in my mind, on Earth-2, he begins to shed pieces of the metal little by little, like a snake sheds skin, until all that is left is the face. When that sheds he continues to use that as a mask. That is my idea of a Jason X continuation anyway.

The virtual Crystal Lake scene should have been played STRAIGHT and not as a parody. Funny the first time, deadly annoying the next ones.

What's the problem? We got to see big Asian boobs. :cool: Seriously though, I know what you mean. I would have loved for the chicks to be actually scared and run from him. The thing is though, I understand why they didn't do that because that would have distracted him for too long, and the ship was going to blow up soon, and they had to move the story along faster then that. The thing I would have loved to see was Jason, watching an older version of himself (such as the version from Part 2 or Part 3) stalk and murder them, and just stand there with a head tilt. That would have been cool to see.

Spaceship way too clean. When you want to rip-off Alien, keep everything, not just the storyline. A spaceship in an horror movie needs to be dusty and dirty, when will people understand ?

I understand your point in terms of being a horror film, but with the story it wouldn't have made sense. It was a ship of students on a field trip. It wasn't the same story as Alien.

[French Friday]

Have you never travelled in a very old bus when on a school trip ? ^^

Seriously, at least with the light, just make it less clear. Or like the ship in JTM at least. Just use the clean stuff for the laboratories, but let the other corridors and rooms more dirty.

[Nancy Thompson]

uber jason looked like lord zed(sp?) from power rangers.

It's funny you said that because my Cousin said the same thing about that when she went and saw the movie in 2002 lol

[CampNewBlood]

I see your point Rich, but these days whatever the box office draw is for a movie isn't necessarily the deciding factor whether a sequel gets made or not.

Just look at Uwe Boll's films:

Alone in the Dark is getting a sequel and that movie was horrid.

BloodRayne is getting a sequel and that movie only made a little over $2 million.

And a non-Boll film....'Pulse'. I liked Pulse alot but supposedly it bombed at the box-office, BUT Dimension has ordered 2 sequels back to back, albeit DTV.

So you can't go by how much a film rakes in. That "door" you speak of is never closed on anything...especially a Friday the 13th film. I mean, there ARE 11 films so far.

[Rich]

Have you never travelled in a very old bus when on a school trip ? ^^Seriously, at least with the light, just make it less clear. Or like the ship in JTM at least. Just use the clean stuff for the laboratories, but let the other corridors and rooms more dirty

Yes, but you are thinking in terms of today. We are talking 500 years into the future. What if he create some kind of biological bacteria that eats up dirt, dust, polin, moss, grime, and other things in order to help people who have allergies or lung conditions or just for safety reasons? In 500 years, it is not unbelievable that we can do that if we can create ants that put body parts back together or if we can create bacteria for chemical warfare today. :cool:

I see your point Rich, but these days whatever the box office draw is for a movie isn't necessarily the deciding factor whether a sequel gets made or not

It probably depends on the company too though. Even if Jason X bombing will not be the factor that kills it, I'm sure Freddy vs. Jason's success will be. They will not say people don't want to see anymore Jason X, but rather people do want to see more Freddy vs. Jason.

Also, a lot of times today, people are signed under contract to do a certain number of films, so even if the original bombs, there are still legal reasons who they have to make more. I don't think James Isaac signed a three picture Jason X deal with New Line.

[French Friday]

I was thinking more about a college science teacher who wants absolutely to make a trip with his class to visit Earth 1, his dream, but the college he works in has no money for that, not believing it would be a useful trip for the students. Too much expensive, nothing to hope in terms of returns... The college just says no.

So the teacher would just rent an old spaceship by himself, set a laboratory in one of the rooms, cleaning it enough to make the various experiments, and that's all ! A "secret" journey to Earth 1 with just his favorite students.

They could also have used some kind of fugitive students, going to explore Earth 1 like teens stealing a truck to explore the world. "Just 16, out of gas, out of luck... I'm running free yeah !".

I mean, there were plenty of ideas to include a real dirty spaceship in the story. Plus, with, instead of students, fugitives, or at least, "rejected" students, I'm sure the scenes would have been more interesting.

The storyline of each character wasn't really interesting, compared to those of Part 2/3/TFC.

Apart Rowan, and maybe Kay-Em, I didn't really like any of the characters.

The Aliens-like commando was not really good, but better than the students (but also underused) and their scenes in the movie where the only ones a little more dirty than the rest. So better scenes.

I think overall that starting with the concept "Jason Goes To Space and Is Upgraded", I would have written a totally different movie.

That's where my disappointment is, I think, I was waiting for a different kind of Jason X when I first heard about the movie.

[Kane Lives]

the liquid nitrogen head smash is one of my favorite kills of all time.

That was awesome.

It was THE moment of Jason X for me.

[Rich]

I would have written a totally different movie.

But you see, that's the thing. Freddy vs. Jason suffers from this as well. It wasn't my Jason X. It wasn't your Jason X. It was someone else's Jason X. That is why, despite being hard to do some times, you have got to get your pre-notion of the story out of your head and just try to enjoy it for what it is, because I bet if you paid 100 people to write a script based on Jason goes to outerspace, in the future (a detail people always leave out by the way), and gets alter/upgraded/changed/enhanced, you would have 100 completely different scripts. Just look at how many different concepts you had for Freddy vs. Jason.

the liquid nitrogen head smash is one of my favorite kills of all time

That was my all time favorite death scene. The shining moments of this movie for me were the beginning when he killed all though people and stalked Rowan, and then when he jumped off that spike thing and cut the guy in half and you see a half of a person crawling. I also loved the video game sequence when he killed the monster thing.

[Autobotsdie]

I liked the part in the virtual reality where they shut down the game and thought Jason was apart of it and it was a glitch only to find out he was real.

[Killa Pimp]

Decent movie.

The "head smash" rules.
Didn't have many Scary moments in it though.

It was almost like it was a parody of the series itself.

I thought it was cool when I first saw it , but after it came out on DVD, I didn't like it as much. I don't even watch it on Sci-Fi when it re-airs.

[French Friday]

That is why, despite being hard to do some times, you have got to get your pre-notion of the story out of your head and just try to enjoy it for what it is,

I already know that, and I enjoy it for what it is, believe me.

But it's really the only Friday where there's more than one "failure" for me.

Each F13 has one main failure IMO, none are "Jaws-perfect", but I can get over it because it's only one. In Jason X, there are so many failures that it's the hardest.

But I succeed as I like finish my watching of the saga with Jason X.

[Ron]

I think every Friday film has atleast one thing I like about it though whether it be a particualr scene, actor or kill.

[SmiTheReeNs*]

Parts 1-7 there coulda been tweeks here and there but i could watch those films without gettin entirely upset..JTM to FvJ was where shit hit the fan IMO

[French Friday]

I think every Friday film has atleast one thing I like about it though whether it be a particualr scen, actor or kill.

It's the total opposite for me : I love 99% of each Friday the 13th, but there's always some little thing that bugs my pleasure. Usually, I get over it very easily, but sometimes, depending on my mood of the day, it makes me hate the movie, as I know that with a little rewrite/re-edit/reshoot, it would have been perfect, without really much money needed.

In Jason X, there are a lot of these little things !

[Utellme]

Parts 1-7 there coulda been tweeks here and there but i could watch those films without gettin entirely upset..JTM to FvJ was where shit hit the fan IMO
Yeah and some of that is they left Crystal Lake for a change which they had to do.Now with 10+ years away from the camp.Its time to get back there with tweeks at the camp for the final 3 films.Snow scene bring back some past survivors etc go back to the basics with it.

[Ron]

It's the total opposite for me : I love 99% of each Friday the 13th, but there's always some little thing that bugs my pleasure. Usually, I get over it very easily, but sometimes, depending on my mood of the day, it makes me hate the movie, as I know that with a little rewrite/re-edit/reshoot, it would have been perfect, without really much money needed.

In Jason X, there are a lot of these little things !

You see to me that sounds a lot like Monday morning quarterbacking!;)

[JVY2K]

3 main failures in Jason X :And I read the original Todd's draft, and it wasn't that good at first. So even without Sean rewrites, Jason X has not been destined to be a masterwork since day one.

Nah man, Todd's script was awesome! If you didn't like it then it's because it wasn't your kinda story. Not because it was a bad write. The script is far superior to the movie and had it beeb backed with a good budget and had they not re-written the script, the movie would have been so much better. Todd was and is not a shitty writer.

[Lammert]

I did see a Jason X cut before all the cgi was finished, it showed an extra scene of Lou with his head smashed into those electronics.

I liked Jason X, but it has its flaws... I agree...

[Ron]

it was definitley more Sci-Fi than anything.

[French Friday]

Nah man, Todd's script was awesome! If you didn't like it then it's because it wasn't your kinda story. Not because it was a bad write. The script is far superior to the movie and had it beeb backed with a good budget and had they not re-written the script, the movie would have been so much better. Todd was and is not a shitty writer.

I've never said it was a shitty script, I just said I didn't like it. I always make the difference.

I don't remember well how UberJason was used in Todd's script, neither the death and the suspense. Maybe I'll try a second reading some day. Can someone give me a link to that original draft ? I lost it when changing my computer.

[Rich]

I don't even know where to find Todd's script anymore. I don't remember much of it, but I do remember some things that were in it that did not get into the finnished movie.

[Deathscythe]

This movie had the greatest death scene in all of horror. Frozen head smash!!

I just rewatched that scene on youtube and that kill is too awesome.

I also like when Jason slashes that dinoasaur thingy in the virtual video game.

[Spade]

I liked Jason X, but it has its flaws... I agree...

I completely agree. I like Jason X. I know it has it's flaws, but I still enjoy it.

Take care and God bless.

Spade

[Ron]

I wasn't too crazy about the whole idea of Uber Jason.

[CrazyCamper]

OK, so I watched JX again this morning. The beginning always makes me wonder though...does anyone have any theories of HOW they "caught" Jason to begin with? :meh:

[Kane Lives]

How they captured him would have made a better storyline than most of those Jason X novels did. :X

[SmiTheReeNs*]

How they captured him would have made a better storyline than most of those Jason X novels did. :X

I liked that idea alot. How the hell did they capture Jason?:eek:

[Rich]

They did the same thing to him that they did in the beginning of Jason Goes to Hell. They changed one little detail though. Instead of life rounds, they surrounded him and used tranqs. Eventually they pumped him with enough tranq to put him out and captured him that way.

[Utellme]

Well the only problem here is at the end of JGTH Jason is pulled down to hell by Freddy.You can thank the directors of part 8,9,10 they totally ignored continuity.

[Lammert]

There was a fight between Brodski and UberJason scripted, don't know if it was ever filmed... but even with this, UberJason was just introduced to late... he didn't kill anyone.

Also, the Crystal Lake flashback was nice... but somehow felt weird.

I remember watching this at a german screening almost 14 months before it came out in the US... my first viewing then was the best, the more I watch it.. the more shitty it becomes. I remember watching it for the first time and really enjoying it becuase Jason was back!

...now if only FvsJ was half as cool as JX.

[Ron]

I just wish that the continuity didn't go to shit after JTM.

[Utellme]

I thought the continuity started to go bad with JTM

[Ron]

JGTH added way to many things. It was a really cocky thing for them to do, by saying "fuck everything else" and just do what they wanted.

[The Dream Master]

Did they really do that, though? I mean, they gave Jason a sister, but it's not like Elias couldn't have fathered a child with another woman. Sure, they added in a bunch of stuff to the mythology, but they didn't exactly throw everything out to get to that point. There had never been an explaination as to what Jason was, and JGTH provided that.

[Utellme]

Yeah i don't buy the idea well the previous movie did bad so were gonna ignore it.

[The Dream Master]

They didn't ignore JTM, as Jason's appearance was based on the fact that he took a toxic bath at the end of that film. They didn't explicity tell how Jason got back from Manhattan, but come on, he's Jason. He just knows how to get back to Crystal Lake.

[Utellme]

DM I'm just going by what they said on JGTH dvd they said that part 8 did so poorly they decided to ignore it.

[The Dream Master]

Oh, alright. I wasn't aware that they said that. Still, even if they did ignore it, they didn't contradict it at all. They didn't pull an H20 and say JTM never happened.

[Utellme]

Yeah theres a good and a bad to doing that.I guess with the way F13th franchise was hurting
by 89 they figured it couldn't hurt i guess.

[The Tall Man]

Whoa whoa WHOA... Hold on... When did they say in the commentary they ignored Part 8? I'm pretty familiar with JGTH's commentary and I recall NOTHING of that matter. You're gonna have to tell me where in the commentary they said that, Utellme, so I can check that out.

DM, dig this... in the television version of JGTH, Duke makes a reference to the end of Friday 8. "They did about every damned thing they could to him... shot him, hung him, dipped him in nucular waste" (he says "nuke-you-lar").

T.M.

[Utellme]

They mention that JGTH has nothing to do with any of the others in the ''The many lives of Jason Voorhees'' on the Jason X dvd. As far as the commentary ill have to listen to JGTH commentary i don't know if they mention it or not.

[The Tall Man]

They mention that JGTH has nothing to do with any of the others in the ''The many lives of Jason Voorhees'' on the Jason X dvd.
Ah yes... and that's said by people who had nothing to do with the film (reviewers and some such). Do not take it as gospel.

T.M.

[Utellme]

Ah yes... and that's said by people who had nothing to do with the film (reviewers and some such). Do not take it as gospel.

T.M.
No it is said by the director of JGTH Adam Marcus

[The Tall Man]

Hrm... I'll take your word for that, but irregardless, nobody anywhere ever said "We ignored Friday 8 because it did poorly."

T.M.

[The Dream Master]

Tall Man, is that scene with Duke one of the deleted/alternate scenes featured on the DVD? I only watched them one time when I first got the disc and can't remember.

Also, I never recalled anyone saying they ignored JTM in The Many Lives of Jason Voorhees doc. I've never listened to the JGTH commentary (because I don't enjoy commentaries very much in general), so I can't comment on that.

[The Tall Man]

DM, no, it is not on the DVD. There were quite a few TV scenes that weren't on the DVD. The alternate Duke interview is one (containing the classic bit, "But they cremated Jason's remains." "They could have danced a jig on his dick and fed it to goats, it wouldn't matter."). There are also alternate shots of Jason's explosion in the TV version that's not on the DVD (because you can't show Jason's head flying around).

T.M.

[The Dream Master]

I don't understand why they'd put some of the alternate scenes on the DVD, but not others. I've never bothered to watch JGTH on tv because, well, I've never seen it on tv (besides maybe Showtime or something like that, which would be the theatrical version anyway).

[Ron]

JGTH is bad enough without all the tv edits.

[Deathscythe]

JGTH is good enough without all the tv edits.

Fixed.:D

Come to think of it, I don't think I ever remember Jason Goes to Hell on TV. Same with Jason X, never knew they aired on TV.

[The Tall Man]

The TV version of JGTH used to air on BET and WGN. My copy of the TV version is from WGN (who also used to air the TV version of "Freddy's Dead"). "Jason X" airs on Sci-Fi and USA frequently... with minimum cuts (there's no TV Version of that one).

DM, I don't get it either. It's silly really not to have included everything... but then again Paramount did the same thing with Friday 4. Some TV version footage is there... but not all.

T.M.

[The Dream Master]

I've seen Freddy's Dead on BET and WGN a lot, but I never saw JGTH on there, unfortunately. I wish I would have taped FD all those times I watched it.

[Darth Sinister]

I've seen JGTH on BET and WGN quite bit around 2000 through 2002. BET because of Steven Williams and Richard Gant.

[Utellme]

Does the tv version of JGTH have any footage the dvd don't include ?

[The Dream Master]

Utellme, yes, read Tall Man's post above. He describes some scenes.

[Shoesalesman]

I just watched Jason X again a few nights ago... and I still think it's a great movie. The ending was as cheesy as ever, but some of the suspense scenes were pretty intense just the same.

[ChoKo]

I think the first 10 minutes or so of Jason X are great. The rest of it? Not so much. (Except for a few of the kills.)

[girlychaos]

I think Adrienne's death is pretty awesome.

[Rich]

I still say the frozen head smash is the greatest death scene in all of cinema history. This movie was entertaining to me.

[girlychaos]

Yeah....that's Adrienne's death....it was great!

[Deathscythe]

That kill was awesome, Jason sured showed her after she was disgusted by his face.

[Shoesalesman]

I agree, her death was very graphic and more "modern" compared to the slice and dice of earlier movies.

[TheCurse]

I think the first 10 minutes or so of Jason X are great
Yes! The opening scene was not cheesy or unintentionally funny. It just showed Jason being a badass and Rowan trying her best to handle everything that was thrown in her face, from Dr. Wimmer's intentions to Jason's escape. A very tense scene.

[girlychaos]

I can't say I hate Jason X...but I'm far from loving it.

Even though I'm pretty sure it's been said here already, I just can't get over that bushy 'fro Jason's sporting...I simply don't get it.

It's really bizarre.

[The Tall Man]

I don't understand this "fro" you people keep talking about. Jason has more hair than usual yes, but it's hardly a fro. Hell, Myers had more of a fro busting through Laurie Strode's door in Halloween 8 than Jason does in X.

Sam Jackson in Pulp Fiction had a small fro... Jason hardly has anything resembling a fro's fetus.

T.M.

[girlychaos]

Tall, I respect your opinion but yes, that was a 'fro! lol

And it's Jason we're talking about here...those two things just don't go together (Jason and an afro). IMO that is.

[SmiTheReeNs*]

Its considered a "fro" since we've never seen Jasons hair that long or puffy like since Part 2 when he had full length of hair.

[The Tall Man]

I remain resolute in my anti-fro status. I think you cats just like being derisive about it way too much. :)

T.M.

[NETRA]

Sam Jackson in Pulp Fiction had a small fro... Jason hardly has anything resembling a fro's fetus.

Well now I wanna see what Jason would look like with Jackson's fro!

[Nancy Thompson]

Yes! The opening scene was not cheesy or unintentionally funny. It just showed Jason being a badass and Rowan trying her best to handle everything that was thrown in her face, from Dr. Wimmer's intentions to Jason's escape. A very tense scene.

I always say the begning to Jason X is the best of the movie. too bad it went down hill after the begning of the movie

[Shoesalesman]

And it's Jason we're talking about here...those two things just don't go together (Jason and an afro). IMO that is.

Agreed. Maybe his hair curled up when they tried to kill him via electrocution or something similar, but it looked too natural and coiffed to be shocked or burnt.

And on another note... if Jason was all powerful and needed to be frozen, why did they just have one guard at the console instead of fifty commandos surrounding Jason with a nuclear rocket launcher each pointed at his head? I know, there's warfare tactics I'm obviously missing here, but one dude to watch over Jason? Come on!!!

[francesco]

The most underrated movie ever. That's one of my favorite friday chapter!
I love Uber Jason!

[Rich]

I did like Uber Jason that was badass. I don't think JX is underrated though. It is a fun and entertaining movie, not very good, but fun.

[simonthekillerewok]

The only scene I like in this movie is when KM fights Jason and shoots his head off. I would have chosen the virtual crystal lake scene but that was ruined by the self referential tone of the campers, the classic music in there was a nice touch though.

The worst scene in the movie to me is the final scene when they're looking out the shuttle window during the ship explosion and we see Sgt. Brodski catch Jason from a stupid 90 degree angle and a cheesy flying noise "sssssuuuwww" followed by horrible music and horrible dialog/acting from Lexa Doig.

Jason and Brodski burning up in the atmosphere was a good idea, but was poorly executed looking reminiscent of PS2 graphics.

[Deathscythe]

I was fine with regular Jasons look in this movie. I thought the Jason Goes to Hell attire was the worst, the mask was part of his face.

[HollyWooDSlasher]

I dont know why People Disliked Jason X, I found it a quite Entertaining movie.. Easily in my mind one of the better Friday The 13th Movies. One of the major reasons I enjoyed this movie alot because in my mind it was more realistic then some of the other fridays, was it the best friday no not in my general Opinion. But I think this movie had bar far more innovative kills, and a more sensable plotline then some other fridays as such, just killing a shit load of teenages in a house party that does'nt even have decent dialogue or even character interaction.

[Germaniac]

I dont know why People Disliked Jason X, I found it a quite Entertaining movie.. Easily in my mind one of the better Friday The 13th Movies.

I wholeheartly agree. I love Jason X. It´s on par with Jason Lives (same athmosphere) and definitly one of the "better looking" entries in the saga. How a rational being can beieve that ANB, TNB or even JTM is better than JX exceeds my imagination.
I guess people just can´t stand the "... in space" idea (and rather watch Jason in the woods fpr the 10th time) because of Leprechaun in SPace or Hellraiser 4. Well, it depends how this idea is transfered (that means: what does the movie look like). Well, Leprechaun 4 sucked because it was a crappy movie altogether .. not just because of the setting!

[Deathscythe]

Yeah, I enjoyed Jason X more than A New Beginning and Jason Takes Manhattan.

[Shoesalesman]

The worst scene in the movie to me is the final scene when they're looking out the shuttle window during the ship explosion and we see Sgt. Brodski catch Jason from a stupid 90 degree angle and a cheesy flying noise "sssssuuuwww" followed by horrible music and horrible dialog/acting from Lexa Doig.

That WAS cheese at its drippiest. :rolleyes:

[Deathscythe]

The whole dialog in this movie was cheezy imo.

[Germaniac]

Umm, we are talking about Friday the 13th here! Of course there is cheese. That was always a big part of the franchise (and the slasher movie genre in general). Some movies had a bit more, some less.
Characters like Ted, Jimbo, Chuck, Chili, David and Eddie (from TNB) are cheezy stereotypic characters! ANB is cheesy (characters like Ethel, Junuior, Damon and Anita, Pete and Vinnie, Lana and Billy and all the friggin dialog in this one), JL is cheesy (steretypes, cheezy dialog and athmosphere of the movie) JTM is beyond cheezy (because it´s alsoo crappy). If you have a problem with JX´s ending you better not watch JTM´s ending!

[Autobotsdie]

They should have switched this and Jason goes to hell around that way part 9 fits into the whole FVJ story line. The reason I say this because let Jason go to space to be turned into Uber Jason then when he gets sent to the new earth he gets reverted back to his old self and thats where Jason Goes to hell pick up where Jason is on Earth 2.

[JVY2K]

I remain resolute in my anti-fro status. I think you cats just like being derisive about it way too much. :)

T.M.

I agree. It's nothing close to looking like a fro.

[Germaniac]

They should have switched this and Jason goes to hell around that way part 9 fits into the whole FVJ story line. and how does Part 9 (JGTH) NOT fit into the FvsJ storyline? the end of JGTH: Jason gets sent to hell, freddy grabs his mask. FvsJ. Freddy and Jason are in hell, Fredy sents Jason back! Why should there be Jason X in between? Jason X is set several years after FvsJ.

[Shoesalesman]

Umm, we are talking about Friday the 13th here! Of course there is cheese. That was always a big part of the franchise (and the slasher movie genre in general). Some movies had a bit more, some less.

Agreed. I consider the cheesiness to be a good quality in these movies, not a bad quality. However, the ending of Jason X was cheese overload for me though.

[Nancy Thompson]

and how does Part 9 (JGTH) NOT fit into the FvsJ storyline? the end of JGTH: Jason gets sent to hell, freddy grabs his mask. FvsJ. Freddy and Jason are in hell, Fredy sents Jason back! Why should there be Jason X in between? Jason X is set several years after FvsJ.

See i always though that FVJ take place after Jason Goes to Hell & Freddy's Dead. And that Jason X take place a few years after FVJ.

Tell you the truth i would like if they make a movie and tell us how did the Feds end up getting hold of Jason and show us everything they try to do to stop him like the woman said in Jason X

[nottidelterrore]

I really enjoyed Jason X. Sure, it was bad but in a fun way. It's not my favourite in the series but it's still an enjoyable watch. The whole concept of Jason in space is ridiculous, which makes the movie more appealing to me. The movie doesn't seem to take itself seriously either & knows that it's a fun, bad movie. Adrienne was probably my favourite female in this one. Kristi Angus is gorgeous. Her death was pretty unique & awesome as well.

[Patrick]

I really do like it also. It's not THAT bad....especially compared to JGTH.....THAT movie was bad. Atleast the character of Jason is in it more than 5 minutes. Plus, it had some pretty cool death scenes.

[Spade]

I like this movie as well. I think it takes far to much of a beating from the fans.

[Joe Strummer]

This movie was alright until that stupid robot girl goes all matrix. I also did not like super Jason...looked cheap and stupid.

[Chucky's back]

The reasons why I think Jason X sux:

Jason's costume designs. The back of his head looks like there wasn't used any makeup or prosthetics. Just like as if they shaved Kane's head. His mask looks a bit cartoonish as well and don't even get me started on Uberjason/Robocopjason....

The CGI. SOme CGI can work when used in small doses combined with old-school effects. Shaun of the dead and Land Of The dead are good examples of that. Jason X (and Freddy VS Jason) is a good example of the opposite.

The music. Harry Manfredini who has always given us a great soundtrack for the other films, really disappointed me here. It fails at creating any creepy or intense atmosphere like his other contributions to the franchise did.

The idea itself behind the plot. Jason as cyborg in outer space. Seriously, what the F***? I mean, that sounds like something a kid or Uwe Boll would come up with. I didn't mind him going on a boat or to Manhattan, but space? That's like going from being a vegetarian to cannibalism.

And this "regeneration" bullshit Cronenberg's character mentioned that countless fans is using as an excuse for nearly every continuity error in the franchise, even in movies prior to this turkey.

[nottidelterrore]

Jason did look really dumb in this movie. Definitely one of his worst looks. Incredibly lame.

I still enjoy watching Jason X though. It's so bad...& knows it.

[El Rooto]

I think that Uber-Jason looked ridiculous. I can imagine better ways to have gone about that.

[Rich]

Jason's costume designs

I liked both looks.

The CGI

Since it was a science fiction themed movie it didn't bother me. It actually fit well with the movie giving it the cheese factor that we would excpect for fun purposes anyway.

The music

I liked the music. I just wish it was turned up a little bit.

The idea itself behind the plot

It was the same excact movie as all the rest of them, just in a different setting.

And this "regeneration" bullshit

Just to let you know, the "regeneration bullshit" has been around since Friday the 13th Part 2. Both the script and the novel have it.

Face it people, this is PART TEN of a slasher movie series. I mean, take it for what it is. It isn't going to be a good movie, but it was fun and entertaining and by part ten, what more can you ask for?

[The Tall Man]

Amen, Rich.

T.M.

[The Dream Master]

Face it people, this is PART TEN of a slasher movie series. I mean, take it for what it is. It isn't going to be a good movie, but it was fun and entertaining and by part ten, what more can you ask for?

That's simple: a good film. There's no reason why it couldn't be.

JGTH managed to be pretty good, and it was the 9th movie, so that's got nothing to do with it. Hell, Casino Royale was the 21st Bond film, and it was probably my favorite since OHMSS. I don't think it's wrong to expect a good product just because it's a sequel.

[Rich]

a good film. There's no reason why it couldn't be

I think it was a good film. Why do I think it was a good film? I think it was a good film because it did what it was meant to do. It delivered great death scenes (especially my number one favorite of all time: the frozen head smash) and the characters (some of them) were fun, unique and a little different then usual for this series. The new envornment (though hated by most people) gave the movie a little bit of a fresh feel. The action was cool. This movie was not meant to be an award winner and it wasn't. It was meant to be a fun and entertaining horror/slasher/action popcorn flick and that is excactly what it was. That is why I feel that it was a good movie...because it did excactly what it was meant to do. I mean, you don't critisize a mini van for not being able to keep up with a Jaguar on a race track...why?...because that is not what it was meant to do. That analogy holds true for movies as well. Different movies have different purposes. Jason X served it's purpose nicely, so that is why I think it was good.

[Antonynz]

The deaths were cool. It was a allright film. But the thought of the camp blood killer in space is a bit stupid.
I think its a fun non friday the 13th film.

[Rich]

To each yours own. I just try to enjoy it for what it is instead of complaining about what it isn't.

[The Dream Master]

I'm certainly not going to begrudge anyone for liking Jason X. I mean, even though it's not my cup of tea, I can at least say it's watchable. However, the idea of settling for what we got just because it's something that's a little different doesn't sit well with me. Even though I don't expect to see an Oscar-worthy film when I see a Friday the 13th, it doesn't mean I can't expect it to at least be something that doesn't feel like it's a DTV film. That's how Jason X felt to me, unfortunately--it was much too campy for my tastes.

And, for the record, it's not the space setting about Jason X that bothers me. It's the treatment of the setting that bothers me. Had Todd's original screenplay been produced (the one that was more like "Friday the 13th meets Alien"), it might have been better. The final product just didn't make me happy, even if it did entertain me to a degree.

[Rich]

It did kind of have that dtv or even made by the sci-fi channel kind of feel. I still enjoy it when I watch it though. I think Kane's performance is a big reason I do enjoy it. If Ken was in that movie, forget it, I probably would not even own it. :lol:

I guess for me, the saving graces of the movie are the kills and Kane.

[The Dream Master]

Oh yeah, the kills are fantastic. The frozen head-smash is in my top ten.

Also, I can say that I did like a couple of the characters: Waylander and Janessa particularly come to mind.

You know, I might have to give Jason X another spin this weekend. It's been awhile.

[nottidelterrore]

I enjoy this movie because I think it's a fun movie that doesn't take itself too serious. I didn't like Jason or Uber-Jason's look though but I still have a good time watching this movie.

It reminds me of one of those cheesy made-for-TV Sci-Fi Channel movies.

[Kane Lives]

The dark, gritty opening with Jason slaughtering 7 people, the head smash, and the VR sequence are what I consider the positives of Jason X.

[Chucky's back]

I liked both looks.
But you didn't bother to specify why?


Since it was a science fiction themed movie it didn't bother me. It actually fit well with the movie giving it the cheese factor that we would excpect for fun purposes anyway.
A science fiction themed movie dosen't belong in a Friday the 13th movie.


It was the same excact movie as all the rest of them, just in a different setting.

And what was the idea? The idea was to put him in a different setting, that's the idiotic idea I'm reffering to.


Just to let you know, the "regeneration bullshit" has been around since Friday the 13th Part 2. Both the script and the novel have it.

Elias Voorhees was in the novels and script to, but he was never in the movies. Same for the regenration. Whatever happen in the novels doesn't have anything to do with the movies, in that case should the next sequel follow the events of what happen in the avatar and wildstorm comics as well?


Face it people, this is PART TEN of a slasher movie series. I mean, take it for what it is. It isn't going to be a good movie, but it was fun and entertaining and by part ten, what more can you ask for?
Hmm... Jason slaughtering dumb teens at crystal lake. That's enough to make me happy. If you don't wanna see that in a Friday movie then go watch a non-Friday the 13th movie

[Darth Sinister]

But you didn't bother to specify why?

Why should he?

A science fiction themed movie dosen't belong in a Friday the 13th movie.

Why?

And what was the idea? The idea was to put him in a different setting, that's the idiotic idea I'm reffering to.

It's not the first time. 1, 2, 6 and FvsJ had the summer camp aspect. 3 and 5 were on a farm. 4 and 7 were at a house. 8 was on a ship and in NYC. 9 took place all over the town of Crystal Lake. Most of FvsJ took place in Springwood, Ohio.

Elias Voorhees was in the novels and script to, but he was never in the movies. Same for the regenration. Whatever happen in the novels doesn't have anything to do with the movies, in that case should the next sequel follow the events of what happen in the avatar and wildstorm comics as well?

Why not? Besides, the fans were speculating about the rengeration. Todd Farmer just used it because he was reading the old board.

Hmm... Jason slaughtering dumb teens at crystal lake. That's enough to make me happy. If you don't wanna see that in a Friday movie then go watch a non-Friday the 13th movie

Except not every story took place at Camp Crystal Lake, much less at the lake itself.

[Chucky's back]

Why should he?

Becuase otherwise his argument is completely pointless.

Why?

Because this is Friday the 13th, not Robocop or Alien. You wanna see people killed by a cyborg or slaughtered by a monster in space then watch those movies.

It's not the first time. 1, 2, 6 and FvsJ had the summer camp aspect. 3 and 5 were on a farm. 4 and 7 were at a house. 8 was on a ship and in NYC. 9 took place all over the town of Crystal Lake. Most of FvsJ took place in Springwood, Ohio.

Freddy Vs Jason came out after JX remember?

Why not? Besides, the fans were speculating about the rengeration. Todd Farmer just used it because he was reading the old board.

He used it so he could make Jason look like whatever he wanted without having to bother about the continuity.

Except not every story took place at Camp Crystal Lake, much less at the lake itself.

I never said anything about the Camp, I just said Crystal Lake, meaning the forest, the lake, the town or anything else in the area. Part 3, 5, 7 and 9 didn't have much to do with the camp but the film still took place at CL.

[nottidelterrore]

I don't think someone should have to specify why they like/dislike something for it to be valid. If Rich likes the designs, he likes the designs. He doesn't have to go into some giant, detailed novel as to why he likes them.

I didn't like how Jason looked. In fact, there were a lot of things I didn't like about Jason X yet I still enjoyed the movie.

[Germaniac]

A science fiction themed movie dosen't belong in a Friday the 13th movie.
Yeah, because half of the franchise is sience-fiction themed! We have an undead killer, coming back from the dead via a lightning bolt, having superhuman powers that can crush skulls. A girl using telekinetic powers. Yadda Yadda.

The idea was to put him in a different setting, that's the idiotic idea I'm reffering to.
Well, if you were in 1980 and you told the audience or the makers of the original movie: "Let´s make sequels about the son of Betsy´s character in which he comes back from the dead, fights girls with telkinetic powers and travels to New York". They would call that idiotic, too. Watch Part 1 and Jason Lives (for example) back-to-back ... totally different pieces of movies. That´s why the franchise had this longlivety: change! You can only make a movie that centers around the same stuff for a limited time, afterwards it will get boring and fail.

Jason X is one of the most entertaining installments of the franchise ... just like Jason Lives and Freddy vs Jason. With entertaining I don´t mean "scary" ... I just mean entertaining (like cheering when Jason kills someone very creative). And Jason X is full of great kills: the head-smash, the slow neckbreaker, the backbreaker, Kicker getting cut in half, the machete through Stoney, a great cut-throat-effect on Gecko etc.
"Manfredini doesn´t use his old score buhu-hu" ... well, his old music from the early installments would fit to Jason X (different atmo).
You don´t like Uber-Jason or regular-Jason´s look in the movie. Fine. Then we have to agree to disagree. I love em both.
Jason X is set in space. So what? Just because Leprechaun in space sucked doesn´t mean that all slashers in space suck! Leprechaun IV sucked because it was a crappy movie. JTM doesn´t suck because of the change in location, it sucks because it´s a crappy movie (bad acting, crappy script with crappy characters).

Bad CGI in Jason X? Where? Kickers upper torso crawling on the floor, virtual Crystal Lake, the finale in space etc looked fanastic. Sure, the beheading of Dallas and the cut-in-hlaf azrael lokked weird ... but that was intentional beacause it was a VR sequence.

"Elias Voorhees was in the novels and script to, but he was never in the movies. Same for the regenration. " Elais was mentioned in JGTH ... and Jason´s regerative powers can be seen on screen in JL (he is a dry corpse in the coffin in the beginning and gets fleshy during the movie/book).

[Spade]

Nice post Germaniac.

[Violent VictiM]

JTM doesn´t suck because of the change in location, it sucks because it´s a crappy movie (bad acting, crappy script with crappy characters).



A-fuckin'-Men!

I enjoy Jason X thoroughly and the change of pace was nice IMO. The acting wasn't as bad as the aforementioned and the kills were so fucking ill. Everyone I know hates this flick but I can't get enough of it.

[Antonynz]

Yeah, because half of the franchise is sience-fiction themed! We have an undead killer, coming back from the dead via a lightning bolt, having superhuman powers that can crush skulls. A girl using telekinetic powers. Yadda Yadda.


Good post there man. But keep in mind most ppl would agree that Friday the 13th a new blood sucked. And the way Jason came back to life was a bit stupid..

[Deathscythe]

JTM doesn´t suck because of the change in location, it sucks because it´s a crappy movie (bad acting, crappy script with crappy characters).
Smartest thing I read in a long time.

[Darth Sinister]

Becuase otherwise his argument is completely pointless.

Why is it pointless?

Because this is Friday the 13th, not Robocop or Alien. You wanna see people killed by a cyborg or slaughtered by a monster in space then watch those movies.

Jason's not a cyborg until the last 20 minutes.

Freddy Vs Jason came out after JX remember?

Yeah, I remember. So? FvsJ was supposed to have been made first, but was taking too damn long, so Cunningham had Farmer and Issacs come up with a film while the crossover was still being written. JX comes after FvsJ.

He used it so he could make Jason look like whatever he wanted without having to bother about the continuity.

No, because Farmer was told that this film would have to take place after FvsJ and since they didn't know what he was going to look like, they came up with the look for that film.

I never said anything about the Camp, I just said Crystal Lake, meaning the forest, the lake, the town or anything else in the area. Part 3, 5, 7 and 9 didn't have much to do with the camp but the film still took place at CL.

Uh, ANB did not take place in the town of CL. It took place at Pinehurst, which given what was indicated in the film, was in a separate county from Wessex. I believe it took place in Unger county.

[Rich]

But you didn't bother to specify why?
Why should he?
Becuase otherwise his argument is completely pointless.

Well I did not really think I was argueing. I was just stating my opinion that I like the looks of Jason in Jason X.

Chuck seems to think that I should answer to him, so if he needs a reason then so be it. I like the classic looks because I think the gloves, ripped clothes, and torn straight jacket with what look like spikes on the sholders make him look completely bad ass and of course Kane's performance made it work. I think the uber look was very intimidating and he just looked like something that you couldn't touch. I loved the metalic body parts with the red eyes. Again, only Kane could have made that version of the character work and he did.

A science fiction themed movie dosen't belong in a Friday the 13th movie
Yeah, because half of the franchise is sience-fiction themed! We have an undead killer, coming back from the dead via a lightning bolt, having superhuman powers that can crush skulls. A girl using telekinetic powers. Yadda Yadda

Thank you, Germaniac. The movies were science fiction since the very first one when a dead kid popped out of the lake, not to mention lightening bolt revivals and telekenisis and everything else.

in that case should the next sequel follow the events of what happen in the avatar and wildstorm comics as well

I think you are twisting my words a little bit. I mentioned the shooting scripts and the novels based on the shooting scripts. Despite that I generally only take what is in the films as complete canon, I still think that the scripts for the movies have more canon validity then the Wildstorm comics. I don't even think you can compair the two.

Jason slaughtering dumb teens at crystal lake. That's enough to make me happy.

That is enough to make me happy as well. But you know what, if Jason slaughters dumb teens on a space ship for one movie, that makes me happy too. In the end it is Jason slaughtering dumb teens either way.

If you don't wanna see that in a Friday movie then go watch a non-Friday the 13th movie

Or I can go watch Jason X or Jason Takes Manhattan.

Because this is Friday the 13th, not Robocop or Alien. You wanna see people killed by a cyborg or slaughtered by a monster in space then watch those movies.

Nobody says it is Robocop or Alien. Jason X is one movie. If you don't like it then you still have ten more movies to choose from. :)

[El Rooto]

I enjoyed Jason X. It was idiotic, but it was fun.

[Scarecrow]

I enjoyed Jason X for what it was, but I also think elements had much more potential. I still wish we'd got a truly industrial Clive Barker-esque UberJason, spewing oil and smoke and looking like he's peiced together by rusted metal and flesh.

- Scarecrow

[El Rooto]

I love that idea. They should have asked you. Or me. Or us.

[Rich]

I don't think the oil thing would have made sense in context of the way Uber Jason was created. They would have had to change the story a bit and instead of Jason being put together by the ants, have Tseneron (who already made Kay-Em) create a robot Jason to fight the real Jason as an only chance for their survival.

[Scarecrow]

It depends, the machines damaged and the ants are meant to be rebuilding him with whatever is lying around... that could be all sort sof junk and part sof the ship they could find and bolt together.


- Scarecrow

[The Tall Man]

Eh, not really... that nanotechnolegy is used to repair huamn tissue as good as new... for them to remake Jason not slick and smooth would be counterproductive to their programming.

T.M.

[Scarecrow]

Eh, not really... that nanotechnolegy is used to repair huamn tissue as good as new... for them to remake Jason not slick and smooth would be counterproductive to their programming.

T.M.

Do we see that though?

They heal an arm but he has both halfs, and they rejoin it. They don't build a new arm from scratch. Jason's in peicies and his brains a mess. besides, if they simply rebuild why does he get a shint metal head and all the very asethetic bling.

I think what we get it just as crazy if you get really logical. I doubt any one would question it any more if he looked a lot nastier and less Power Rangers.


- Scarecrow

[Fowlees]

"It's gonna take more than a poke in the ribs to put this 'ol dog down.......Yeah! That oughtta do it!" LOL

[nottidelterrore]

"It's gonna take more than a poke in the ribs to put this 'ol dog down.......Yeah! That oughtta do it!" LOL

Brodski was great. Probably favourite character in the film. I enjoyed Peter Mensah's performance. I'd like to see him in bigger roles & in more movies.

[Fowlees]

Brodskis aforementioned line is one of the best quotes in the whole franchise IMO.

Sadly, this film was an utter disappointment and along with J.G.T.H. the worst in the franchise so far, again IMO.

[Joe Strummer]

The movie was fine till Robo Jason showed up, then it just turned stupid-mostly because of how he looked which was like some fucker in a cheap halloween costume.

The movie was enjoyable up until that garbage. I enjoyed the change in scenery and some of the kills were great like the drill spinner and frozen head smash. But man, they just had to fuck it up and make Jason Terminator: model failure.

[Germaniac]

Where is that Robo-Jason in JX everyone talks about? If you are referring to Uber-Jason: he is not a robot, he is not even a cyborg! That´s good ol´Jason who got his missing bodyparts replaced with alternate tissue that was in the lab (metal, plastic etc). There is nothing electric, robotic about Uber-Jason (mabye synthetic). Therefore: Not a cyborg! Not to mention: He doesn´t even move like a robot (although you could claim that Hodder´s Jason was always a bit robotic).

[Joe Strummer]

Yeah, he's not a robot, but he sure as hell looks like a Terminator.

[Germaniac]

Yeah, he's not a robot, but he sure as hell looks like a Terminator.

Huh? Where do you see similarities between the two?
http://www.follow-me-now.de/assets/images/Terminator-3.jpg
http://www.clubdesmonstres.com/uberjason02.jpg

Wow, they both have red eyes! So what!?

UberJason is clearly orientated from a Splatterhouse 3 boss (the flying head thingie) ...
which is a nice reference since the SPlaterhouse hero is based on JAson (not to mention that a part 2 Jason was the boss in the first game).
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/452/splatterhouse3uc001py4.png

[ChoKo]

I enjoyed Peter Mensah's performance. I'd like to see him in bigger roles & in more movies.

He gets PWNED by King Leonidas in 300. :lol:

[The Dream Master]

Holy crap, I didn't even realize that was him in 300.

[Scarecrow]

That´s good ol´Jason who got his missing bodyparts replaced with alternate tissue that was in the lab (metal, plastic etc). There is nothing electric, robotic about Uber-Jason (mabye synthetic).


Ummm... that's what a Cyborg is. A cyborg at its most basic is a creation that exists as a collision of the organic and the technological. Organic Technology seen in many films and shows is the ultimet form of the cyborg where flesh and tech become one and the same. A cyborg can also be less obvious with a organic body beign altered and changed through the application of science.

UberJaosn is as Cyborg as you could get.

- Scarecrow

[Rich]

I'd love to play that splatter house game! That looks awesome! Can you play as the Jason?

[The Dream Master]

Rich, you play as Rick Taylor in Splatterhouse, and he just happens to be wearing a mask that resembles Jason's.

[Scarecrow]

Splatterhouse used to terrify me asa kid. :p

- Scarecrow

[nottidelterrore]

Splatterhouse sure brings back some fond childhood memories.

[Chex]

All I can remember (besides the obvious Jason links) is that the games were hard.

[Rich]

I remember back in 2001 there were rumors of a Jason X video game. That obviously never happened but I would have loved that. I think it is long overdue for a new Jason video game. We haven't had once since the NES game.

[Spade]

I would've loved a Jason X video game.

[Ron]

A Freddy vs Jason game could have been fun too.

[Chucky's back]

Yeah, because half of the franchise is sience-fiction themed! We have an undead killer, coming back from the dead via a lightning bolt, having superhuman powers that can crush skulls. A girl using telekinetic powers. Yadda Yadda.

You don't seem to know difference between Science-fiction and horror. Those things are supernatural, not scientific.

[The Dream Master]

I still think his point remains pretty much the same, though. The franchise had already been taken in so many unexpected directions that a space setting really isn't that hard to swallow.

[Shoesalesman]

Yeah, space wasn't a far reach for the F13 flicks.

[Rich]

You don't seem to know difference between Science-fiction and horror. Those things are supernatural, not scientific.

Actually, Jason being brought back to life by lightening by electro galvanism (Frankenstein style lightening) is very much scientific. Read Mary Shelley's novel. The same goes for telekenisis.

[Utellme]

I know its to late now and that some of us like Jason X but for other ideas they had was Jason in a snow storm which i would think people would have accepted a little more.I know i definetly would and then you would not have to hear me keep posting about a winter scene.

And yeah a Jason game is way past due theres a Evil Dead game for playstation

[Ron]

I remember I had the Evil Dead game before I had even seen the films.

[Utellme]

Jason X was on sci fi last night and i could swear i noticed extra scenes added in for TV.

[Ron]

Really?? I never knew of any extra scenes.

[Rich]

There were extra scenes. Legend has it that there was a fight scene between Brodski and "metallic" Jason at the end when the Srgt. closed the door on him. On the dvd they just walk toward eachother and the ship blows up, but supposedly there was an actual struggle or fight of some sort filmed befor the ship blows up, but it was taken out of the movie theater version of the movie. Well I read that on the old board so who knows? I wish the dvd gave us deleted scenes, but over all, the Jason X dvd is still probably the best single edition Friday the 13th dvd on the market.

[Autobotsdie]

Jason X was on sci fi last night and i could swear i noticed extra scenes added in for TV.

There is always the tv version and the theatricle version of movies.

[The Dream Master]

There is always the tv version and the theatricle version of movies.

Not always. I can think of plenty of movies that don't have scenes added to them when they play on television.

As for Jason X, I've never heard of any deleted scenes myself. In fact, I've always heard that the only thing cut from the flick is about 5 seconds of gore.

[Ron]

This movie gets a lot of negative feedback, but it actually has one of my favorite kills...the frozen head smash.

[Utellme]

There is always the tv version and the theatricle version of movies.
Not allways alot of these films i hope tuning in for to see theese different scenes only to see the Theatrical and cut. Im still waiting to see TV Version for Jason Lives The final Chapter etc etc.

[girlychaos]

This movie gets a lot of negative feedback, but it actually has one of my favorite kills...the frozen head smash.

That is one of my favorite death scenes as well, but Jason X is far from being one of my favorite F13th movies and that's not only due to the space and Uber-Jason stuff. I don't like the cast at all and the whole atmosphere is kinda "shallow" if you know what I mean. I don't hate it, but I don't love it either.

[The Tall Man]

Utellme, you're gonna have to track those down from collectors because chances are those prints will no longer be shown on television now that new tv edits have been created from the remastered DVDs.

"Jason X" runs exactly the same on Sci-Fi/USA except for profanity and nudity. Now I didn't watch it LAST night, but I have seen it on Sci-Fi before and there were no "new" scenes.

Rich, are you sure you're not thinking of the cut fight between Brodski and classic Jason? I've never heard anything about an extra Brodski/Uber-Jason battle, but Todd's told me about and I have stills from the former battle I mentioned.

T.M.

[Chex]

I happened to catch this last night and never noticed that Jason still had the ability to just...warp back at the research facility.

[Utellme]

Utellme, you're gonna have to track those down from collectors because chances are those prints will no longer be shown on television now that new tv edits have been created from the remastered DVDs.


The scene im thinking was added is when the chick takes Jason's mask the show his face i don't remember this on the dvd ?

[The Dream Master]

You mean when Adrienne (the blonde headed gal) is examining his body? If so, yes, that's always been in the film. :)

[Scarecrow]

I think "Jason X" is a lot of fun and works well as a B-Movie classic, a self-knowing slice of cheese. I can enjoy it as such. What's a shame is that it COULD have been a really hard, rough, violent horror film. And I STILL wish we could have got a steampunk-style Uber-Jason, all oily and industrial.


- Scarecrow

[SlasherFreak]

I caught this movie last night on the sci fi channel, after years of viewing. To my suprise...I kind of liked it after all this time. It's just not typical Jason...but it was a kind of fun film to me. 6 out of 10 id give it

[Natman]

You know what... It's actually okay. I've got to completely agree with Scarecrow on this one. That's the way I've always viewed this film.

[Spade]

I actually like this movie and think it's very underrated.

[Ron]

This movie, too me, is like Leprechaun in Space...pure, ridiculous fun.

[The Tall Man]

Gosh, "Jason X" actually has some production value. Lep 4 looks like it was shot in somebody's garage by 9th graders.

T.M.

[Shoesalesman]

I actually like this movie and think it's very underrated.

Agreed. Not the best in the series, but not the worst.

[Scarecrow]

For me Leprauchaun in Space is pure ridiculous shit. Seriously, veyr few films I actually hate but I NEVER want to see that film again. Ever.


- Scarecrow

[Spade]

For me Leprauchaun in Space is pure ridiculous shit. Seriously, veyr few films I actually hate but I NEVER want to see that film again. Ever.


- Scarecrow

I completely agree, Leprechaun in Space was garbage.

[Rich]

The biggest difference between Jason X and Lep in Space is that Jason X makes sense as it shows how Jason actually got on the ship. With Lep 4, he just is in space with no explanation and then back on Earth in the next two movies.

I think Jason X is a way better movie then Lep 4 though. Lets face it, besides the setting, there is not really a difference between Jason X and any other Friday the 13th movie.

[jackdeth]

Lets face it, besides the setting, there is not really a difference between Jason X and any other Friday the 13th movie.
I agree 100%. It was still A Friday movie, just different setting.

[Utellme]

For my 2nd F13th marathon im gonna watch parts 4,5,8,9 and Jason X and watch the 17 min Jason special on the dvd.

[James M]

Lets face it, besides the setting, there is not really a difference between Jason X and any other Friday the 13th movie.

There is a difference in how some films are certainly better than others.

[Autobotsdie]

Well look at the last 4 Jason movies. One took plece in Manhatten, the next took place where Jason made his way back to Crystal Lake form the mourge, the next one took place in space and the last one took place in Springwood. Every time Jason moves to a new area he seems out of character for him not to be at crystal lake.

[Rich]

There is a difference in how some films are certainly better than others

I agree with that, especially when you are talking about the first three or four movies, but still they are all very similar as well.

[CrazyChris187]

this is a good movie for the franchise i think thbey shouldnt have made after JGTH they should have made freddy vs jason first and than thought well where does he go from here but all in al its a great movie but no wy close to a 10 id say /to for this movie

[Autobotsdie]

Thats what a alot of people have said before. They fucked up where the should have made FvJ first then Jason X.

[Ron]

Jason X was kind of a pot boiler.

[Autobotsdie]

I just wish in Jason X they showed how they captured Jason like they showed how they blew him up in JGTH.

[Help Yourself Fucker]

I thought it was good fun. I really liked the kills in this movie and to me it wasn't that bad. Didn't really seem like a Jason movie but I still liked it a lot.

[Autobotsdie]

Over all it was good. But to me it seemed a little like a knock off of Alien with Jason stalking everyone one on the ship.

[Shoesalesman]

I put this flick on last night. I still really like it.

[Scarecrow]

Over all it was good. But to me it seemed a little like a knock off of Alien with Jason stalking everyone one on the ship.

Shame it wasn't MORE like Alien in the atmosphere and style...


- Scarecrow

[Dave Dunwoody]

It's a fun movie, and as time passes I think it'll gain a greater appreciation in that sense.

[Rich]

Shame it wasn't MORE like Alien in the atmosphere and style...

It was actually supposed to me. Todd Farmer had that in mind when he wrote it and I read the script myself. It was James Isaac and the Cunninghams that took alot of the darkness out of it and added funny one liners and such.

It's a fun movie, and as time passes I think it'll gain a greater appreciation in that sense

I think that will happen too. I seems to be happening already.

Didn't really seem like a Jason movie but I still liked it a lot.

It seemed like a Jason movie to me...just in a different place.

[Violent VictiM]

This installment is really low as far as the order in which I enjoy the movies. But that doesn't really mean a lot because I like every single one except Part VIII. I think it was a pretty good script, a whack idea, but a solid movie built around it so that it didn't suck that bad.

I hate the gothic hockey mask though.

[Rich]

It had a gothic hockey mask?

[Spade]

It's a fun movie, and as time passes I think it'll gain a greater appreciation in that sense.

I hope so, I enjoy the movie and I think it's way underrated.