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Just Jeans

07-17-2007, 01:32 PM

Barrowman drops interesting hints about series 2 of Torchwood:

From SCI FI WIRE (http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=1&id=42439):

John Barrowman, who plays Captain Jack on the BBC Two's Doctor Who spinoff Torchwood, told SCI FI Wire that the upcoming second season will reveal more about his character's complicated backstory.

"Every day I come in, or every new script I get, I learn something new about my character, which keeps it fresh," Barrowman said in an interview at the Television Critics Association summer press tour in Beverly Hills, Calif., on July 13. "And it means that when I play things, I play them differently, because I know different things about him now."

The character of Captain Jack was introduced in a two-part episode of Doctor Who and went on to appear in the final five episodes of the first season. Later, he become the leader of a secret organization at the center of the spinoff show, Torchwood. How he got from one place and time to the other is a mystery that will gradually unfold over the course of Torchwood's second season.

"You don't know the exact date when Jack returned yet," Barrowman said. "We do know he was left on Satellite Five [at the end of season one of Doctor Who]. He was brought back to life. He then came back to Earth and arrived back in another time and had to live through it to get to the point where the Doctor came back. In [season] two of Torchwood, there's some of that revealed."

In his performance, Barrowman is also now bearing in mind an intriguing new piece of information about the character, which was slipped into the end of the recent third season of Doctor Who (currently airing on the SCI FI Channel). He couldn't talk about the twist in specifics, but he did say that it came as a shock, not only to him, but also to co-star David Tennant, who plays the Doctor.

"It's always something that takes you by surprise, otherwise it wouldn't be fiction," Barrowman said. "And I love that. And that script, when it came out, David read it. We were filming at the time, and he came running to my trailer and he went, 'F--k me. Have you read this?' And I went, 'No.' And he went, 'Oh, my God. Hurry up.' I went, 'Shut up and get out of my trailer. I'm not reading it yet.' ... So then I read it, and on a lunch break I ran to his trailer and knocked on the door, and he went, 'Well?' And I went, 'F--k me!' But it's absolutely brilliant."

End of series 3 Doctor Who spoilers:
Season two of Torchwood will also further develop the character of Martha Jones, played by Freema Agyeman, who will be making a guest appearance in three episodes.

"It's a perfect progression for her character," Barrowman said. "Because she develops such a strong character by the end of [season] three. So if Jack needs help, who else is he going to call? Jack trusted her to save the world. So did the Doctor. So who are you going to call? Martha Jones."

The third season of Doctor Who is currently running on SCI FI Channel Fridays at 8 p.m. ET/PT. Torchwood's first season will begin airing on BBC America on Sept. 8 at 9 p.m. ET/PT. —Cindy White

The Dark Vampire

07-17-2007, 01:40 PM

Didn't they start dancing around the trailer after that

That could of been funny walking by then hearing them shouting F**k me to each other then see the trailer rocking:D:eek:

DrLar

07-17-2007, 09:39 PM

I wonder if Jack will also "get it on" with Martha, I love to see that

Just Jeans

07-17-2007, 09:53 PM

Well he's going to get it on with Spike, so I wouldn't be shocked if he gets it on with Martha, too. :eek:

I hope she gets it on with Ianto.

DrLar

07-17-2007, 09:54 PM

Again? LOL, just kidding...

Ianto means "cry" in spanish.. LOL

Alex DeLarge

07-17-2007, 11:42 PM

90% sure Martha will get it on with Tosh. If she gets it on with Owen, I'm going to throw a can at my computer screen. He got Gwen, Suzie, Diane, tons of other women and Tosh is mad for him. And he's a little prick! If he and Martha got together, that would just cement Torchwood's place as "most un-fair TV show ever."

And Ianto means "cry!" Why am I not surprised?:p
ADDED:
Again? LOL, just kidding...

:confused:

Huh?

Just Jeans

07-19-2007, 02:52 PM

James Marsters reveals that it was he who went knocking on the BBC's door for a chance to appear in Torchwood.

From BBC News (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/wales/6900670.stm):

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44001000/jpg/_44001118_torchwood_bbc203300.jpg
Buffy star's joy at Torchwood job

Former Buffy star James Marsters and ex-Neighbours actor Alan Dale have spoken of their excitement at starring in the BBC TV series Torchwood.

Marsters, who played Spike in Buffy the Vampire Slayer, said he was "a big fan" of the Doctor Who spin-off.

And Dale, who used to play Jim Robinson in Neighbours and has recently been in The OC and Ugly Betty in the US, said he was "thrilled" to be in the show.

Filming for the new Torchwood series is currently under way in Cardiff.

The alien-chasing series, starring John Barrowman and Eve Myles, is expected to be shown in 2008 and Marsters is set to guest star in the first episode.

The actor, who starred as a goth vampire in both the cult US series Buffy and its spin-off Angel, said he was "really excited" about his character.

"I can't say too much about him, except he is naughty and a bit of a psychopath," he said.

"I am a huge fan of Doctor Who and Torchwood so it was me who knocked on their door."

And Dale, who has also appeared in Lost and The West Wing, said he was delighted to be back in the UK.

"I am thrilled to be working on Torchwood - I am a huge fan of British television drama."

The cast will also be joined by Freema Agyeman who has been travelling in the tardis as David Tennant's assistant Martha Jones in the last series of Doctor Who.

Agyeman said it was "a huge new challenge" and she could not wait to start filming.

Created by Russell T Davies, the first series of Torchwood introduced a team of investigators based at a secret headquarters in Cardiff Bay and also featured Burn Gorman, Naoko Mori and Gareth David-Lloyd.

Just Jeans

07-23-2007, 09:14 PM

It's a big day for Torchwood. According to Outpost Gallifrey, two new bits of Torchwood merchandise are in the works: a Torchwood audio drama series (a bit like the Big Finish Doctor Who audios) and Torchwood Magazine, which will be the equivalent of Doctor Who Magazine.

From Outpost Gallifrey (http://www.gallifreyone.com):

Torchwood in Audio
The John Jarrold Literary Agency has announced that Steven Saville, editor of the recent Short Trips Anthology Destination Prague, has been signed on to write a new Torchwood audio. The title will be Hidden, and the story will be delivered in August, for an autumn recording by BBC audiobooks.

John Jarrold said: "The storyline is under wraps, however, I've read the synopsis, and it's terrific! As one of those who remembers watching the first episode of Doctor Who in November 1963 and still watches both the original and Torchwood, I can't wait to hear it!"

Torchwood Magainze
Titan Magazines has announced that they will begin publishing Torchwood Magazine beginning in 2008. This monthly release will include interviews, behind the scenes reports and original fiction. This new magazine is currently slated to coincide with the airing of series two.

Scarecrow

07-25-2007, 08:40 AM

Alex DeLarge

07-25-2007, 08:56 AM

Torchwood Magazine will NEVER be an equivalent of DWM. For one thing its by Titan, king of the cheap cashi-in magazines, often chepa and nasty and full of large pictures and text to take up the already thing page count.

One the plus side, Torchwood Series 1 looks ste to hit DVD January 18th in a season box set. Awesome.

- Scarecrow

JANUARY?! :eek:

That's like a full year after it aired! :p I guess it's to coincide with Series 2. Bring on the John Barrowman/James Marsters and Freema Agyeman/Naoko Mori slash! Woot! Kidding. Maybe. ;)

Spade

07-25-2007, 01:03 PM

JANUARY?! :eek:

That's like a full year after it aired! :p I guess it's to coincide with Series 2. Bring on the John Barrowman/James Marsters and Freema Agyeman/Naoko Mori slash! Woot! Kidding. Maybe. ;)

That's kind of the date I expected. It coincides with the start of series 2, plus they are just now showing previews for season one on BBC America. So I thought they would make people wait for the season to be over on that channel before they realeased a set.

But January sounds good to me, I'll be sure to pick it up.

Take care and God bless.

Spade

Just Jeans

07-25-2007, 10:56 PM

JANUARY?! :eek: That's like a full year after it aired!

I think Scarecrow is talking about the region 2 series 1 box set. It was released over separate volumes (http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_w_h_/203-1718762-1442336?initialSearch=1&url=search-alias%3Ddvd&field-keywords=Torchwood&Go.x=15&Go.y=14&Go=Go) already, but no box set has been made available.

I don't think there's a solid release date for a region 1 set yet. I imagine it'll come out the week after series 1 ends it's BBC America run (it might even come out while it's still airing -- Robin Hood was out on region 1 DVD by the time it started airing on BBC America).

sickboy

07-25-2007, 11:07 PM

Robin Hood was out on region 1 DVD by the time it started airing on BBC America

My god, they let that shit escape this country? Maybe it narks me cos I live just outside of Nottingham and about a 10 minute drive from Sherwood Forest and I hate seeing a legend raped like that. Or maybe it's cos the acting was dire, the storyline laughable, and i the first episode robin hurls a broadsword a fucking long way with deadly accuracy....

Anyway, onto Torchwood. The problem I have with the show is that they made it laughably grown up. It's like they decided to make a 'doctor who for adults' and felt that they had to ram that down our throats with as much lesbianism, inuendo and swearing as they could muster. Beneath the "let's say fuck cos we need people to think we're not about the kids anymore' there were a couple of decent stoylines.

Just Jeans

07-25-2007, 11:25 PM

I've only seen the first two episodes of Robin Hood, but I liked it okay. :shifty:

It's like they decided to make a 'doctor who for adults' and felt that they had to ram that down our throats with as much lesbianism, inuendo and swearing as they could muster.

Oddly enough, that's exactly what they did. The reason the first episode is so much more graphic than the rest (in terms of swearing and gore) is because RTD wanted to stuff as much adult material into the pilot as he could, hence the blood geyser from the medical bloke's neck, and the string of profanity dropped on Owen by that one woman's boyfriend.

I'm expecting series 2 to be a drastic improvement over series 1. I've been involved in a couple of conversations with Johnathan Blum about the schedule they were working on during the first series (he's been doing research about it -- not sure why) and it seems that most of the series 1 scripts were going into production with little more than a draft pass being done on them. The show was rushed into production by the BBC, and it shows.

Series 2 -- besides moving from BBC 3 to BBC 2 -- has had a lot more work done trying to hammer out the issues that they ran into during series 1. RTD has also said that series 2 will be a bit less dark. They're aiming to make it more fun than series 1.

For all it's flaws, I really like series 1. I'm expecting good things from series 2.

Oh, and Owen will be getting a boyfriend in series 2. My sister is chuffed.

Alex DeLarge

07-26-2007, 04:40 AM

Series 1 is also gets MUCH better as it goes along. Out of Time is an extremely mature and adult episode, without being adolescent. The sex and death serve actual purposes. Same with Captain Jack Harkness.

Just Jeans

07-26-2007, 05:56 AM

I agree, although Countrycide is still my favorite episode in the series. I'm one of the few who actually liked seeing Jack torture an enemy, and his little speech about his training in the ways of torture still chills me to the bone. It was also nice to see Ianto trying to play in the field.

I'm not sure series 2 will get as deep as series 1, seeing as RTD wants to make it more fun on the whole. I doubt we'll get scenes like Jack sitting in a car, holding someone's hand while that person commits suicide, but I'd like to be proven wrong. That's my favorite scene from the entire series, and it's scenes like that which make me think Torchwood could be something really special.

Just Jeans

07-29-2007, 11:22 AM

Bit of news from Doctor Who Magazine:

Martha will be appearing in episodes 6-8 of S2. Her and Owen will have a feisty relationship, there will be a bit of an attitude between her and certain members of the team. We can expect bad guys called the Pharm and something life changing will happen to one of the crew during Martha's time there. We will also be seeing the Boeshane Peninsula as well.

Just Jeans

08-04-2007, 02:31 AM

Torchwood series 1 and 2 have both been acquired by American HD cable network HDNet. They'll start airing the show on September 17th.

"We're thrilled to be airing TORCHWOOD in HD," said Mark Cuban, president and co-founder of HDNet. "This is certainly a Russell T. Davies signature show. TORCHWOOD explores adult themes and doesn't shy away from anything. Whether it's the diverse storylines or the hero's ambivalence to sexual boundaries, this is not your typical show, and I love it."

Just Jeans

08-05-2007, 01:44 PM

A bit of casting news:

Veteran actor Richard Briers revealed on BBC News24 that he will be appearing in an episode of Series Two of Torchwood.

The actor, who was being interviewed about remastered Charlie Chaplin films, said he read the script last night and it scared him.

Talking to Michael Parkinson on BBC Radio 2 he added that he will play a 90 year old man rehearsing for the end.

Briers is best known for his role of Tom Good in the classic BBC Comedy series, The Good Life.
In Doctor Who, he appeared with the 7th Doctor, Sylvester McCoy, in the 1987 story Paradise Towers, where he played The Chief Caretaker.

Scarecrow

08-05-2007, 05:19 PM

"Pex Lives!"

- Scarecrow

FinalBeyond

08-05-2007, 07:14 PM

That made me Rofflemow, Scarec. :p

I wonder if there will be any link. After all, Nurse Crane got attacked by a Haemovore, and comes back as a Plasmavore... :p

Just Jeans

08-16-2007, 07:06 PM

A new face for Torchwood, and a new look for (http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2007/08_august/15/torchwood.shtml)Martha.

I like her new look. The red pleather jacket of death appears to have gone. Hooray. :)

sickboy

08-18-2007, 10:18 PM

I really wish they'd create a spin-off of Torchwood about a swat-style team... that's what I was hoping for when Torchwood was first announced. I expected a lot more action, like Dr Who with guns...

It does seem like they've learned a few lessons since the first season so I'll be tuning in to see ho it goes.

Also approve of Martha's new look :)

Spade

08-19-2007, 09:08 AM

Just Jeans

08-20-2007, 03:12 AM

I dunno why anyone would expect that from Torchwood. The idea of Torchwood was always inspired by Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Angel, RTD just decided to base it in the Doctor Who universe and use characters/situations from Doctor Who.

In the promitonal material for Torchwood, Davies described it as, "...a British sci-fi paranoid thriller, a cop show with a sense of humour ... Dark, wild and sexy, it's The X-Files meets This Life."

The show basically is Doctor Who with guns, only on a smaller budget.

Spade

08-20-2007, 10:22 AM

I didn't believe it would be all action, I expected it to have a little more action than what it has. Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy with the way it turned out. I think it ended up being better than I thought it would be anyways.

Take care and God bless.

Spade

Just Jeans

08-20-2007, 06:19 PM

You've already seen Torchwood, Spade? Without seeing series 2 of Doctor Who? :eek:

Spade

08-21-2007, 11:29 AM

No I haven't seen all of Torchwood. But, yeah I seen a few episodes of Torchwood. Someone sent me a disc with a few episodes on it. I wanted to watch series 2 of Dr. Who first, but couldn't afford the box sets and couldn't find anyone willing to trade/sell theirs.

So originally all I had to go on with Torchwood was it was a spin-off of Dr. Who, and a brief bio I read on the internet and peoples comments. So I really didn't know that much about it when I first saw it.

Take care and God bless.

Spade

Just Jeans

08-25-2007, 10:13 PM

Julie Gardner talks Torchwood with SCI-FI Wire (http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=1&id=43570)

BBC's Torchwood Has U.S. Roots

Julie Gardner, executive producer of the BBC series Torchwood and head of drama development for BBC Wales, told SCI FI Wire that the series grew out of a fascination with American science fiction TV shows, particularly those on the air in the 1990s.

Gardner and Russell T. Davies, the lead writer of both Torchwood and Doctor Who, met during a time of such shows as Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Angel, Smallville and Battlestar Galactica, Gardner said in an interview. "And Russell and I were watching all of those shows," she recalled. "And every week we would talk about those shows with so much kind of love and kind of detail. And we would talk about why we weren't doing those kinds of shows in Britain."

In that spirit, Gardner and Davies developed a script for a science fiction series called Excalibur, which centered on a team of paranormal investigators. "It was a kind of [an] urban-landscape, present-day series," Gardner said. "And the scene that Russell in his two-page pitch described was the scene where there was this sexy group of investigators in an alleyway at night, it's raining, a corpse is on the ground, and one of them brings out a glove and is able to bring the corpse back to life, which is, of course, the central first scene in Episode 1 of what became Torchwood."

The project was put on hold when Davies was tapped to oversee the new incarnation of Doctor Who, but following the success of that revival, he and Gardner returned to their idea with a new twist that tied into the Doctor Who universe.

"We had a great crew working on Doctor Who, and we thought it would be a great thing to kind of keep that team together, but stretch their creative muscles in a different direction," Gardner said. "To do something very different. And Torchwood was born out of the Excalibur idea, because we loved working with John Barrowman on the first season of Doctor Who. His character of Captain Jack had really taken hold of people's imagination. And we knew that the public was really responding to that character. So it made a huge amount of sense to take the Captain Jack figure and put him into the show that eventually became Torchwood."

Gardner added that while Doctor Who has a traditionally British feel to it, Torchwood's American influences are evident in the premise. "I guess you could describe it as more American in terms of it's slightly precinct-based," she said. "It's the story of the week every week. It's a sci-fi show that is rooted in the Earth. It's not a sci-fi show [like] Doctor Who [that] travels in galaxies and time and space. It's a kind of X-Files in some [sense], in terms of the stories of the week and how rooted that is."

Torchwood will have its premiere in the United States on Sept. 8 at 9 p.m. on BBC America. The first season will be available on DVD on Jan. 8, 2008.

DrLar

08-28-2007, 05:46 PM

Torchwood will be Shown in Mexico (officially) for the first time today, but I don't have that channel! LOL (it's on cable only).

They did a good introduction the other day in a local paper...

Just Jeans

08-29-2007, 10:47 AM

Torchwood: Series 1 box set special features:

SCI-FI WIRE has announced a list of the features to be included in the series 1 release of Torchwood which is released on January 8, 2008.

The bonus features include the featurettes Welcome to Torchwood; Torchwood on the Scene; Torchwood Out of this World; Torchwood Sex, Violence, Blood and Gore; Torchwood on the Road; The Team and Their Troubles; Torchwood: Moments in the Making; The Captain's Log; Torchwood on Time; and Torchwood Declassified. The DVD will also feature deleted scenes, audio commentary on all 13 first-season episodes and outtakes.

Also, 'Expect Relationships to Develop in Series 2':

This story contains MINOR SPOILERS for the second season of "Torchwood."

“Torchwood” may only be about to hit the screens in America, but already British fans of the show are eagerly looking forward to the second season that is set to premiere in early 2008 on BBC Two.

News on the second season of the series has already begun to leak out, with short clips of production appearing on YouTube and some snippets of details unofficially hitting the Internet. What seems to be the main angle for “Torchwood” Year 2, however, is to fix any remaining problems from the first season while also bringing some more depth to the main players of the series.

Among these major developments is the budding and very-much hinted at relationship between Capt. Jack Harkness (John Barrowman) and Ianto Jones (Gareth David-Lloyd) which will take a more prominent role in the second season. And what’s more, it may include some more "stopwatch fun."

“There’s nothing I think I’m allowed to say actually,” David-Lloyd told SyFy Portal’s Alan Stanley Blair during the recent Collectormania convention in Glasgow, Scotland. “I’ve got to be careful because they haven’t given me a list of things I’m allowed to say yet so I’ve got to be careful otherwise they will get me into trouble. The only thing I will say is that the Jack and Ianto thing develops, and from what it is it’s pretty fun so there’s that.”

The series is set to be made up of more standalone installments with no real two-part episodes. However, halfway through the season, former “Doctor Who” companion Martha Jones (Freema Agyeman) will be making a three-episode appearance before returning to the mother series.

"Doctor Who" continues to air on the SciFi Channel with its third season in the United States and will return to BBC One on Christmas Day while "Torchwood" premieres on BBC Two in early 2008. Its first season will premiere in the United States on Sept. 8 as part of BBC America’s Supernatural Saturday lineup.

Just Jeans

09-05-2007, 07:53 AM

More Marsters for series 2? Could well be, friends:

When news hit that James Marsters would be taking on a role for the BBC series “Torchwood,” it was enough to have fans buzzing with anticipation. Now however, it looks like they might have a little more of Marsters to look forward to … in more ways than one.

The former primetime face of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" and "Angel" recently told fans at Dragon*Con in Atlanta that his one-time appearance on the "Doctor Who" spinoff might not be one time after all, according to TorchwoodTV. Marsters may return for a later episode this season, but the actor is not confirming anything until such an appearance is finalized with the powers that be.

There has been a great deal of speculation over the details of Marsters' character on the series, and also how he will fit in with the mysterious past of Capt. Jack Harkness (John Barrowman). The No. 1 theory, however, is that he will be a temporal agent (like Jack) with a past and an agenda of his own.

"I cannot confirm or deny anything about my character on 'Torchwood,'” Marsters told the convention crowd. “But I thought Spike was nasty ... that was nothing. And they opened my eyes over in Wales, I gotta say. I mean at first I was all freaked out ‘cause this dude playing Jack, he’s like all sexy on the set and everything. And I didn’t really realize we’d be playing these Time Agent characters who’ll have sex with anything, like any thing with a hole! I’m serious.”

Other rumors for the series have also indicated that the character will have a bit of a fling with Jack, and Marsters' comments confirms that at least some of that speculation is accurate and that he himself initially had a hard time with the openness of the series.

”The first day I was like freaked out, ‘Oh God help me,’" Marsters said. "Then I got into my character and I got to understand my character and everything. And the lead character Jack goes -- he drives up in this beautiful red car -- and he goes, ‘I almost did the car.' And by this time I was totally comfortable with it and I knew that he was in character and I said ‘Well, that shiny metal is winking at you … I’d do her, too … where ‘d ya take her?’ and he said ‘Up the gas station.’ I mean like he didn’t really do that but I looked at the SUV and it’s like, 'James, steady there.'

”But it’s like, yeah, that’s a very English show,” he added. “Cut! Yeah I’m a little more comfortable with myself now."

But with recent reports that Jack's relationship with Gareth David-Lloyd's character of Ianto will heat up in the second season, fans should now be asking the question of how Marsters' presence on "Torchwood" will affect that budding relationship.

The first season of "Torchwood" premieres in the United States on Sept. 8 as part of BBC America’s Supernatural Saturday lineup. The second season, which is currently in production, is set to hit the United Kingdom in early 2008.

Spade

09-06-2007, 05:39 AM

I havent seen any episodes with Marsters in them yet, but I'm glad he's on the show. Spike was one of my favorite characters on Buffy.

Just Jeans

09-06-2007, 05:59 AM

Marsters is in series 2, which hasn't finished filming yet. He wasn't involved in series 1 at all, but it seems that he might be doing more than one episode, whereas the initial word was that he was only appearing in one episode toward the beginning of the second series.

Alex DeLarge

09-06-2007, 10:54 PM

From what insiders and such have gathered (Marsters himself has said a lot of this in an interview I read a view days ago), in Episode 1, he will be playing Captain John, a fellow rogue Time Agent from the 51st century, who much like Jack, will "stick it in anything with a hole," but with a much more sadistic streak, one that makes Spike look like a baby. Basically, he is to Captain Jack what the Master is to the Doctor. From his culture, former friends, all the same qualites, but a twisted, sadistic mirror. Sounds good to me.

King Dracula

09-08-2007, 03:28 PM

Looking forward to watching it tonight. Been waiting for it.

Scarecrow

09-09-2007, 02:12 PM

The second series is going to be soooo much better, even more so if jack's wittier, funnier and sexier!

- Scarecrow

King Dracula

09-10-2007, 03:53 AM

Really enjoyed the first episode. Liked the violence they showed. The Guard at the Hospital getting bitten by the Weevil and then at the end with Captain Jack getting shot in the head( Which was a great scene, so sudden) and then the girl committing suicide.

Just Jeans

09-10-2007, 09:28 AM

Too bad the episode was cut for time and the swearing was muted (well, 'fuck' got muted, anyway). The violence seemed mostly in tact though, so that's good. Still, I'd hate to be seeing it on BBC America for the first time. Glad I didn't wait. Can't wait for the DVD set in January.

Spade

09-10-2007, 10:03 AM

I taped it via dvr but didn't watch it for fear of it being cut from the original version. Well I'm glad I didn't watch it then. I'll wait till my copy of season one arrives ;).

Just Jeans

09-13-2007, 04:48 PM

Torchwood breaks ratings record on BBC America, and gets insanely good press reviews:

BBC America has said the premiere of Torchwood on the channel delivered the biggest audience of any drama premiere in the 58-million-subscriber network’s history.

The series, shown at 9pm Eastern Time on Saturday nights, attracted 496,000 total viewers, according to network officials.

In the target demographic of persons ages 25 to 54, the premier got 297,000 viewers. That’s slightly ahead of how action drama Robin Hood performed when it premiered last year, at about the same rating (0.42). Viewer numbers were higher for Torchwood than Robin Hood because BBCAmerica is in more homes now.

A second airing, at midnight ET and 9 p.m. PT Saturday, delivered a 0.19 rating (139,000 viewers) in the target demographic, or 241,000 viewers overall.

Figures cited are live viewing and same-day viewing, which adds in a day’s worth of digitally recorded watching.

Meanwhile series has received some very good reviews in the US press.

The Hollywood Reporter called the series "a crackling good, brilliantly conceived sci-fi series that targets actual grownups" while the Los Angeles Times described the show as "indescribably delicious".

TV Guide said the programme was a "a cheeky and often startlingly adult spin-off" and Variety said it has the fixings of a thinking-man's sci-fi series that doesn't take itself too seriously.

The Kansas City Star says the programme is "one of the best serial dramas to arrive on American television in 2007" and The Philadelphia Inquirer describes it as "by turns super-slick, raw, bizarre, hilarious, spooky, scary and sublimely sexy".

The Pittsburgh Post Gazette calls Torchwood "an adult sci-fi show with a sense of humor", The Seattle Post Intelligencer calls it "a thrilling spinoff" and The San Jose Mercury News says the series is "an imaginative, wickedly funny spinoff from the revived and revitalized Doctor Who".

I had a feeling it'd do better than Doctor Who and Robin Hood. It's definitely the most "American" of the three shows, which is funny considering it's Welsh.

Alex DeLarge

09-13-2007, 10:38 PM

Torchwood breaks ratings record on BBC America, and gets insanely good press reviews:

I had a feeling it'd do better than Doctor Who and Robin Hood. It's definitely the most "American" of the three shows, which is funny considering it's Welsh.

Albeit, like the article above says, based on American supernatural shows like Angel.

Just Jeans

09-14-2007, 12:42 AM

I would have liked to see what Torchwood would have been like if RTD had ultimately gone with the Excalibur idea rather than making it a spin-off.

Spade

09-14-2007, 05:56 AM

Excuse my ignorance, but what's the Excalibur idea?

Scarecrow

09-14-2007, 08:37 AM

That was a concept for a British SF thriller series that the people behind Torchwood had even before they got to do Doctor Who. Once DW was a hit the concept was re-worked into Torchwood.

- Scarecrow

Just Jeans

09-14-2007, 08:49 AM

The very first scene in episode 1x01 of Torchwood is actually based on the only scene RTD had ever envisioned for Excalibur.

Just Jeans

10-10-2007, 09:04 PM

We in the region 1 will be able to vote for which cover art we want on Torchwood: Season 1 (it's not being called "series 1" in America).

According to the TV Shows on DVD (http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Torchwood-Season-1-Release-Date-Change/8232) website, it was announced today by the BBC and Warner that the Season One (as it is labeled for its US release) DVD Box set of Torchwood will be released on Tuesday, January 22nd, rather than January 8th as originally reported.

In additional news, it is also reported that fans of the show will be able to choose the cover art for the boxset. The studio will soon launch an online poll that will allow fans to vote for their favourite cover art for the set.

More details forthcoming. Below is the product description for the boxset.

The highly anticipated spin-off from the new Doctor Who, Torchwood: The Complete First Season blazes its way to DVD. Separate from the government, outside the police, beyond the United Nations, Torchwood sets its own rules. Led by the enigmatic, ever watchful Captain Jack Harkness, the Torchwood team delves into the unknown and fights the impossible. Everyone who works for Torchwood is young. Some say that's because it's a new science. Others say it's because they die young.

There's going to be at least 10 making-of featurettes on the set, as well as outtakes and commentaries on all 13 episodes.

Spade

10-10-2007, 09:29 PM

More shows should allow you to vote for the coverart.

Shoesalesman

10-12-2007, 05:54 PM

Just watched the first episode last night and the VCR is set to tape the second one tonight. Thoughts thus far? Captain Jack is a character I enjoyed getting to know more as the end of Season 3 approached and I'm happy I have sort of a "head start" on things going into this new series.

I realize I'm basing my comments on one premier episode, but I find Davies to be a fabulous writer and so far the series seems to have sustainability. Cooper is a looker to boot. MEOW!

Are the folks who did the music for Doctor Who on board for this new show as well?

FinalBeyond

10-12-2007, 06:16 PM

Murray Gold did the theme music, I know that. Pity it's basically a little sting of music played about 2 times.

Just Jeans

10-12-2007, 08:23 PM

Murray Gold and Ben Foster co-compose the music for Torchwood. Apart from the theme, I think Ben Foster does the majority of the work on Torchwood, while Murray concentrates his efforts more toward Doctor Who.

There's actually a couple of tracks lifted directly from the Torchwood score and used in series 3 of Doctor Who during Utopia and The Sound of Drums.

I really like the theme. I've got a 1:02 version of it on the ol' PC. It's quite nice.

Shoesalesman

10-13-2007, 05:15 PM

Thanks for the information, guys.

Scarecrow

10-13-2007, 07:26 PM

I have a good feeling about Torchwood Series 2 and I think it'll develop ion its strength's and learn from previous mistakes. More fun too!

- Scarecrow

Just Jeans

10-16-2007, 01:36 AM

The poll is up (http://www.bbcamerica.com/content/262/giveaway.jsp), although only people who live in the United States can vote. Those who participate also enter to win the set. I hope I win, 'coz I'm too poor to buy it myself.

Personally, I think both covers are rubbish, but I'm voting for number 2 because it doesn't have a big, tacky white bar across the top.

Shoesalesman

10-22-2007, 02:38 PM

Episode 2 proved to be just as good, if not better, than the first one.

Alex DeLarge

10-22-2007, 05:13 PM

Really? I prefer Everything Changes to Day One. Everything Changes is one of my favorite episode. Sets up the world brilliantly. Typical genius writing from our Russell T. Davies.

Just Jeans

10-22-2007, 11:21 PM

Everything Changes is pretty much my favorite episode, too. I think it has more staying power than Rose or Invasion of the Bane as far as first episodes are concerned. I would have liked to see more episodes that were done in the same style (it was more of a murder mystery than an alien-of-the-week kind of story), but I suppose there's always hope for series 2.

Scarecrow

10-23-2007, 08:23 AM

Alex DeLarge

10-23-2007, 05:27 PM

Well, it sounds like S2 will be going back to RTD's central premise and upping the fun content and hopefully Everythin Changes will act as a template. I'm still holding out for a return shor for Bilis though....

- Scarecrow

Agreed. Bilis has GOT to return. He was SOOOOOO brilliant, I adored him. I could see him being a Big Bad for Series 2, though I can also easily see Captain John being one too. I'm almost positive he'll make a return apperance due to his site's band scheudling. From a band perspective, it'd make 0 sense why he'd be coming back to Carfiff, unless to do other Cardiff work...

Just Jeans

10-24-2007, 02:07 AM

Marsters has said he'd be returning in a later episode if his schedule allowed, so if he's set to perform in Cardiff again, I'd say his involvement in the later half of series 2 is pretty much a dead cert.

Alex DeLarge

10-24-2007, 06:11 AM

Agreed. I cannot WAIT for Captain John! A Master for Captain Jack, how brilliant is that?

Scarecrow

10-24-2007, 08:41 AM

Damn you guys and your spoilers! :p

But yeah, Bilis was clearly left without any real closure so it'd be a crime if he didn't appear again. Hopefully with a bit more discovered about who he is exactly...

- Scarecrow

Just Jeans

10-24-2007, 12:24 PM

And why in the hell he'd want to release Abaddon from the Rift. The lack of clear motivation still leaves me rubbing my head.

Alex DeLarge

10-24-2007, 04:58 PM

Ethan Rayne-style chaos worshipper? Or apostle of Abaddon? I heard a theory that he might be connected to the fairies (due to something in the episodes... but I can't remember what). Maybe if all the humans were dead, his fairies, or fairie like race, could reign. I guess it's to be discovered at a later date...

Just Jeans

10-25-2007, 01:52 AM

I think Billis refers to Abaddon as his God, but it's all so vague I have trouble remembering.

Incidentally, I've been led to believe that his appearance in Captain Jack Harkness wasn't his first run-in with the Torchwood team. Apparently, there's information on the Torchwood website that suggests Bilis once kidnapped Owen, filled him full of truth serum, questioned him, then dosed him with retcon.

It seems the old boy has had his eye on Torchwood Three for quite some time.

Shoesalesman

10-25-2007, 03:00 PM

The third episode had its moments for sure and I'm liking the chemistry between the members of the team. This is my new Friday night obsession.

Just Jeans

10-26-2007, 12:48 AM

Is episode 3 Ghost Machine? If so, that's my favorite episode after Everything Changes.

My top five favorite episodes would be Everything Changes, Ghost Machine, They Keep Killing Suzie, Countrycide and Captain Jack Harkness.

Random Shoes and Out of Time get an honorable mention. They'd be in my top five if I could have more than five in a top five list. :X

Alex DeLarge

10-26-2007, 04:27 AM

Yes, it is. I'm with Shoesalesman. It's a bit like 42, I loved it when I watch it, it just has very little rewatchability and I forget most of it as soon as it's over. My favorites are (in order) Captain Jack Harkness, Out of Time, Everything Changes, They Keep Killing Suzie and Greeks Bearing Gifts.

Shoesalesman

10-30-2007, 02:54 AM

For Cripes sake, this show keeps getting better and better. Just finished the fourth episode. Amazing musical scores. :D

Just Jeans

10-30-2007, 04:40 AM

I've been waiting desperately for a music score CD to be released. Doctor Who has got it's second disc on the way, and I'd like to get my hands on the Torchwood soundtrack (and Casanova -- come on, Silva Screen! You know it makes sense!)

Scarecrow

10-30-2007, 08:37 AM

I'm also a fan of Cyberwoman, a very under-rated episode.

- Scarecrow

Just Jeans

10-30-2007, 08:41 AM

Apart from the silly Cyber High Heels, I really enjoyed Cyberwoman.

Scarecrow

10-30-2007, 09:36 AM

Cybermen all have to be a set height, resources were low and they were being rushed into development. High heels help set the height within the suit and the bra makes sure the organic parts are held in place. :p

- Scarecrow

Just Jeans

10-30-2007, 09:42 AM

On first seeing it, I remember thinking, "High heels? Really? Okay, so the Cybermen have a sense of fashion, but surely they're impracticable for World Domination?"

They gave me a good laugh, no doubt about it. :D

Alex DeLarge

11-02-2007, 03:51 AM

Interesting possible news. Some people who attended a screenwriting class have claimed that their instructor, Andrew Cartmel, has claimed he is writing an episode for either Series 2 or 3 of Torchwood! For those who don't know, Cartmel was the script editor for the three McCoy seasons of Doctor Who. If true, I think this is fantastic news as some of my all time favorite episodes are from the McCoy era and its overall tone and approach is very similar to the news series's IMO. If true, count me satsified. :D

Just Jeans

11-02-2007, 06:27 AM

Scarecrow

11-02-2007, 08:57 AM

As long as Jack doesn't suddenly become "more than just another immortal" or some such nonsense, then that's okay news (the NAs are sometimes much too grim for my taste, and a lot of the ideas that they established were taken from Cartmel's insidious Masterplan.)

The Masterplan has always been exaggerated though, especially after the fact.

Besides, Cartmel just did EXACTLY what the new series has done, made the Doctor special. Only he didn't have the benefit of 15 years off the air. Suddenly a Time Lord sounded and could be impressive and all-powerful.

But Cartmel had Trial right behind him, people new Time Lords, they just weren't impressive. So the Doctor had to be "more than a Time Lord" to be impressive.

But, what it comes down to, is the same concept and same idea that cartmel and RTD are using of making The Doctor truly a force to be respected.

- Scarecrow

Just Jeans

11-02-2007, 09:23 AM

Suddenly a Time Lord sounded and could be impressive and all-powerful.

I think that's got something to do with the Doctor suddenly becoming the last of his kind, which is a concept I'm not certain Cartmel would have entertained in 1988.

I agree that RTD's Doctor Who has done basically the same thing, but what I didn't like about Cartmel's approach is how downright manipulative he made the Doctor (which may have been exaggerated in the NAs, but it was still the direction Carmel was intending to go, and I believe he also helped to fashion the Time's Champion concept whilst he was working on the NAs, but I'm not 100% sure about that; it could be his hand wasn't as dominant in the early NAs as I've been lead to believe.)

I don't mind RTD's Doctor being brutal from time to time (the way he handled the Racnoss and the Family of Blood spring to mind) but the Seventh Doctor went much too far down the dark path in my opinion, and Cartmel is partially responsible for that.

Anyhoo, yeah. Torchwood. I hope Cartmel's episode doesn't suck, if indeed he is doing one.

Alex DeLarge

11-07-2007, 02:26 AM

http://www.bostonnow.com/entertainment/television/2007/11/05/marsters-learns-to-leave-spike-behind

Confirms Captain John'll be using his English, "Spike" accent.

Just Jeans

11-07-2007, 02:28 AM

Boo. Hiss. Et cetera.

(Although to be honest, I'm not fussed one way or the other.)

Shoesalesman

11-07-2007, 03:38 AM

I still have to catch up on last Friday's episode.

Scarecrow

11-07-2007, 10:38 AM

Which episode was it? I know the US are getting into the really good episodes now!

- Scarecrow

Alex DeLarge

11-07-2007, 01:58 PM

It was Random Shoes. Out of Time next week, woo!

FinalBeyond

11-07-2007, 04:55 PM

Random Shoes is probably one of my favourite episodes. It succeeded in every way that Love And Monsters failed.

And it has one of my three favourite uses of music in New Who and its subsidiaries (along with Voodoo Child and I Can't Decide) with the use of Starman.

Scarecrow

11-07-2007, 06:29 PM

REeally, I thought it's main failures were where Love & Monsters succeeded. the more I watch it, the better it gets. Watched it at cl;ass in Uni, Masters students all around 20 and one guy was welling up at the end, it's a very emotional peice and fascinating study of fandom and love.

- Scarecrow

Alex DeLarge

11-07-2007, 10:45 PM

Wait... which? I adore Random Shoes, and while I enjoy L&M, it is very much an experiment, one that Random Shoes and Blink refined. Still, brilliant concepts, all of them. Can't wait to see the Doctor-lite and Torchwood-lite eps of this year...

Just Jeans

11-07-2007, 10:50 PM

I'm not entirely sure that Random Shoes was a Torchwood-lite episode, at least not in the same way that Love & Monsters or Blink were. After all, Gwen was in the episode through out, and isn't the reason for the Doctor-lite episode to do with having such a small core cast and because of the extra shooting block needed for the Christmas Special?

I think Random Shoes was a brilliant little episode, and it was Jack-lite, but I don't think it was shot that way for the same reasons that necessitate such an episode in Doctor Who.

Shoesalesman

11-08-2007, 02:53 PM

Which episode was it? I know the US are getting into the really good episodes now!

- Scarecrow

It was called Small Worlds.

Scarecrow

11-08-2007, 03:36 PM

Small Worlds is, for me, the first truly brilliant and dman scary episode of Torchwood.

- Scarecrow

Shoesalesman

11-08-2007, 06:58 PM

Small Worlds is, for me, the first truly brilliant and dman scary episode of Torchwood.

- Scarecrow

I loved the scene when those soldiers instantly died in that train tunnel flashback.

Shoesalesman

11-16-2007, 02:44 AM

Just watched Countrycide. It had a good mix of suspense and gore. I was reminded of Jason Voorhees during the running-in-the-woods scenes near the end. Haha!!!

One of my favorite episodes thus far.

Scarecrow

11-16-2007, 08:01 AM

Always good to have a random slasher-esque episode. :D

- Scarecrow

Just Jeans

11-16-2007, 08:32 AM

Countrycide is really high up on my favorites list from Torchwood. But then I'm a big fan of slasher-type stories, so I would like it. :D

Alex DeLarge

11-16-2007, 02:08 PM

I dunno why but Countrycide is one of my least favorite. I've grown out of slasher-type stories in the past two years or so, unfortunately, but still I appreciate it's quality. But it's rewatchability factor is much lower than it would be if Torchwood came out a few years ago.

Shoesalesman

11-16-2007, 03:15 PM

For some reason it reminded me a bit of the whole "torture flick" attitude of today's movies.

Just Jeans

11-21-2007, 03:05 AM

While there is still no official word on the UK premiere, series 2 will begin on January 26th here in America.

JANUARY IS TORCHWOOD MONTH WITH THE RETURN OF BBC AMERICA'S HIT SCI-FI SHOW AND DVD RELEASE

BBC AMERICA's all-time highest rated show, Torchwood, is back with a U.S. premiere second season, beginning January 26, 9:00pm ET/PT. Created by Russell T Davies, lead writer on the current Doctor Who series, Torchwood (13 x 60) is a BBC Production, distributed by BBC Worldwide.

With guest stars including James Marsters (Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Smallville), Alan Dale (Ugly Betty, The OC) and Doctor Who's Freema Agyeman, the show will air close to its UK premiere.

Richard De Croce, VP Programming, BBC AMERICA says: Torchwood has legions of loyal fans in the U.S. and we wanted to bring them the next season as soon as possible.

And fresh from its critically acclaimed airing on BBC AMERICA in September, Torchwood: The Complete First Season goes on sale January 22. The 7-disc DVD set includes over 6 hours of bonus features including outtakes and cast interviews.

Torchwood is an action-packed, adrenalin-fuelled sci-fi series following the adventures of a team of investigators, lead by Captain Jack Harkness (John Barrowman), who use alien technology to solve crime. With fearsome new aliens and compelling storylines the second season takes the close-knit Torchwood team through dare-devil action, temptation, heartache and a life changing event for one of the team.

Hollywood Reporter called it "...a crackling good, brilliantly conceived sci-fi series that targets actual grown-ups" while the Philadelphia Inquirer said it was "...super-slick, raw, bizarre, hilarious, spooky, scary and sublimely sexy."

BBC AMERICA brings audiences a new generation of award-winning television featuring razor-sharp comedies, provocative dramas, life-changing makeovers and news with a uniquely global perspective. BBC AMERICA pushes the boundaries to deliver high quality, highly addictive and eminently watchable programming to viewers who demand more. BBC AMERICA is distributed by Discovery Networks. It is available on digital cable and satellite TV. For more information about BBC AMERICA visit www.bbcamerica.com.

Scarecrow

11-21-2007, 09:48 AM

Gives us a lot of hope though as the UK release will surely be around that time, if not at the same time. Looking forward to it! :D

- Scarecrow

Just Jeans

11-21-2007, 08:45 PM

I wish Sci-Fi would do the same with Doctor Who.

Shoesalesman

11-28-2007, 03:39 AM

Just watched Greeks Bearing Gifts and They Keep Killing Suzie. Five more episodes and the season is done over here. Thus far, They Keep Killing Suzie is my favorite for its fabulous storyline and sub-plots.

Just Jeans

11-28-2007, 05:49 AM

The interesting thing about They Keep Killing Suzie is that, originally, it wasn't intended to be produced during series 1. It was an overcommission, but RTD liked it so much that he had it added to the series 1 production schedule. RTD is also the one who added the "gloves come in pairs" line to the end of the script.

Gorecki by Lamb is a great song.

King Dracula

12-02-2007, 07:12 PM

Good first season. Very happy to see yesterday that season 2 will be airing in the US in January starting the 26th. Thought they might make us wait.

Just Jeans

12-03-2007, 08:22 PM

Torchwood gets Kid Friendly (http://www.syfyportal.com/news424500.html)

Look out, kids! Here comes "Torchwood"!

BBC Two is planning to air an edited version of the "Doctor Who" spinoff's second season that will allow "younger" fans to be able to watch the show.

The specially-edited repeat will obviously be a bit shorter than the sex- and language-laden show, but it apparently will have a lot of that cut out so that the audiences typically associated with "Doctor Who" also can be associated with the new series. It will air a few days after the original episode.

"We were aware that an awful lot of our audience love Capt. Jack, but wouldn't be able to see it," said Russell T. Davies, showrunner for both "Doctor Who" and "Torchwood." "So the answer was, let's make a version for a younger audience."

The new season, which is expected to premiere in January (and a short time later on BBC America in the United States) will feature Freema Agyeman, who played Martha Jones in the third season of "Doctor Who."

"He's rung her up, he's called her in, he needs her help," show star John Barrowman said. "And who else can he trust? She's part of his old team."

It's unclear what exactly would be excised from the family-friendly versions of the show. While it's likely some of the sexual situations may be toned down, there is a good chance that the openness of sexual orientation (or really the seemingly lack thereof) will remain, since it was clear in the more family-friendly "Doctor Who" that Barrowman's character of Capt. Jack was bisexual.

There is no reports on whether BBC Two will try to do something similar with the first season, but an edited down version of the show could make it more available to American media audiences, such as SciFi Channel, which is airing the current "Doctor Who" incarnation.

They probably should have thought about the kids wanting to watch before they decided to do an adult drama surrounding Captain Jack.

Anyhoo, I think this is a bad move, and I'm wondering if they'll release two versions on DVD: one for the adults, one for the kids. After all, you can't exclude the young'uns from marketing. Although to be fair, maybe this means Character Options will release a Ianto action figure with coffee mug and stopwatch action grip.

They either need to make it family-friendly from the out, or man up and produce one version for the adults and let parents decide whether their kids should be allowed to watch.
ADDED:
BBC Press Release:

Torchwood, the award-winning drama created by Doctor Who writer Russell T Davies, bursts back on our screens in mid-January 2008, this time premiering on BBC Two.

And this time it's bigger and bolder with more fun, adventure and excitement for the alien-fighting team...

Captain Jack Harness (John Barrowman), Gwen (Eve Myles), Owen (Burn Gorman), Toshiko (Naoko Mori) and Ianto (Gareth Lloyd-Davies) return as the investigators delving into the alien underworld of modern day Cardiff.

In response to audience demand, younger fans will now have the opportunity of watching a specially edited pre-watershed repeat.

Roly Keating, Controller BBC Two, says: "We're delighted that Torchwood is joining BBC Two.

"We know from the success and popularity of Heroes that there's a growing appetite for smart, high-quality, sci-fi drama on the channel so Torchwood is a perfect fit.

"I'm also pleased to announce that, due to popular demand from families and younger viewers, we will be showing a special pre-watershed repeat so everyone can enjoy the new series."

Making a special guest appearance in the first episode is James Marsters as Captain John. He starred as Spike, the punk-goth vampire in Buffy The Vampire Slayer and Angel.

Captain John and Captain Jack go way back and have "history".

When he appears through the Rift under Cardiff looking for Captain Jack not only does he disrupt Captain Jack's homecoming but the whole team, city and world are suddenly placed in danger.

The new series promises an exhilarating mixture of adventure, heartbreak, humour and surprise and pushes the team's resolve and friendships as never before.

Firmly rooted in urban life of 21st century Cardiff, Torchwood's investigations into alien activity give the team glimpses of the 51st Century and the First World War.

They encounter alien sleeper cells; save a stranded creature from human exploitation; meet a tragic soldier from the First World War; and encounter a memory thief who exposes long-forgotten secrets among the entire team.

During the run Alan Dale (Ugly Betty, The O.C, Lost and The West Wing) makes a star appearance.

Another familiar face among the special guest stars is Doctor Who's companion Martha Jones (Freema Agyeman) who appears half way through the series.

Richard Briers, Nerys Hughes and Ruth Jones (Gavin And Stacey) also appear in various roles.

Russell T Davies says: "This series pushes the Torchwood team further than ever before. They are joined by some incredible guest stars who are really going to cause waves. It's adventurous, thrilling and packed full of surprises."

Torchwood, which was shot in HD and will also be shown on the BBC HD channel, is filmed in and around Cardiff by BBC Wales.

BBC Wales Controller Menna Richards says: "The first series of Torchwood was a huge hit with audiences. We're extremely proud that it's produced in Wales. And its success is a reflection of the huge wealth of talent and creativity that exists here. We're delighted that it's returning to our screens for another series full of action, humour and excitement."

The 13-part series is written by Chris Chibnall, Phil Ford, Peter J Hammond, Matt Jones, Joseph Lidster, James Moran, Helen Raynor, Catherine Tregenna and JC Wilsher. Created by Davies, with Chris Chibnall as co-producer and lead writer, the first series which aired on BBC Three last year achieved the channel's highest ratings in 2006, with an audience of 2.5 million for the first episode, and peaking at 2.8 million.

There will be a new exciting online reality game and exclusive behind the scenes footage on bbc.co.uk/torchwood.

Torchwood is executive produced by Russell T Davies and Julie Gardner, Head of Drama, BBC Wales. The producer is Richard Stokes.

Just Jeans

12-06-2007, 06:03 PM

A really bizarre teaser for the second series of Torchwood, featuring Peter Patrelli, from Heroes:

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Just Jeans

12-15-2007, 12:31 AM

The first episode of series 2 is titled Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang.

The second series of Torchwood, the award-winning drama created by Doctor Who writer Russell T Davies, premières on BBC Two. This time it's bigger and bolder, with more fun, adventure and excitement for the alien-fighting team.

John Barrowman as Captain Jack Harkness, Eve Myles as Gwen, Burn Gorman as Owen, Naoko Mori as Toshiko and Gareth David-Lloyd as Ianto return as the investigators delving into the alien underworld of modern-day Cardiff.

In the first episode of the series, Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang, by co-producer and lead writer Chris Chibnall, Captain Jack is reunited with the Torchwood team as they face a rogue Time Agent. The mysterious Captain John Hart, played by James Marsters (Buffy The Vampire Slayer), is determined to wreak havoc, and needs to find something hidden on Earth. But with Gwen's life in danger, and cluster bombs scattered across the city, whose side is Jack on?

During the 13-part series, Torchwood's investigations into alien activity give the team glimpses of the 51st century and the First World War. In future episodes they encounter alien sleeper cells; save a stranded creature from human exploitation; meet a tragic soldier from the First World War; and encounter a memory thief who exposes long-forgotten secrets among the entire team.

Later in the run, Alan Dale (Ugly Betty, The O.C.) makes a star appearance. Another familiar face among the special guest stars is Doctor Who's companion Martha Jones (Freema Agyeman), who appears half way through the series. Richard Briers, Nerys Hughes and Ruth Jones (Gavin And Stacey) also appear in various roles.

There is a specially edited pre-watershed repeat of Torchwood on BBC Two later in the week.

Following on from that, Torchwood Declassified goes exclusively backstage to reveal the secrets behind some of the first episode's sensational stunt sequences and talks to John Barrowman, James Marsters and Russell T Davies.

Shoesalesman

12-15-2007, 02:16 AM

Watched Random Shoes and Out Of Time last night.

Wasn't overly excited by Random Shoes, however Out Of Time was excellent. Not action-packed like other episodes; more reflective of adjustments to a new age and time. The soundtrack was spectacular, as usual, especially in Out Of Time.

That red dress? BAM!!!

Scarecrow

12-15-2007, 12:11 PM

Out of Time is one of the best episodes. Random Shoes is good but I prfer Doctor WHo's Love and Monsters that has some similarities. "Captain Jack Harkness" by thw write rof Out of Time is also a stunning episode.

- Scarecrow

Just Jeans

01-03-2008, 08:24 PM

Torchwood series 2 press release: (http://www.gallifreyone.com/cgi-bin/viewnews.cgi?id=EEAAFEZEFASeZztamD&tmpl=newsrss&style=feedstyle)

The second series of Torchwood, the award-winning drama created by Doctor Who writer Russell T Davies, premières on BBC Two. This time it's bigger and bolder, with more fun, adventure and excitement for the alien-fighting team.

John Barrowman as Captain Jack Harkness, Eve Myles as Gwen, Burn Gorman as Owen, Naoko Mori as Toshiko and Gareth David-Lloyd as Ianto return as the investigators delving into the alien underworld of modern-day Cardiff.

In the first episode of the series, Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang, by co-producer and lead writer Chris Chibnall, Captain Jack is reunited with the Torchwood team as they face a rogue Time Agent. The mysterious Captain John Hart, played by James Marsters (Buffy The Vampire Slayer), is determined to wreak havoc, and needs to find something hidden on Earth. But with Gwen's life in danger, and cluster bombs scattered across the city, whose side is Jack on?

During the 13-part series, Torchwood's investigations into alien activity give the team glimpses of the 51st century and the First World War. In future episodes they encounter alien sleeper cells; save a stranded creature from human exploitation; meet a tragic soldier from the First World War; and encounter a memory thief who exposes long-forgotten secrets among the entire team.

Later in the run, Alan Dale (Ugly Betty, The O.C.) makes a star appearance. Another familiar face among the special guest stars is Doctor Who's companion Martha Jones (Freema Agyeman), who appears half way through the series. Richard Briers, Nerys Hughes and Ruth Jones (Gavin And Stacey) also appear in various roles.

There is a specially edited pre-watershed repeat of Torchwood on BBC Two later in the week.

Following on from that, Torchwood Declassified goes exclusively backstage to reveal the secrets behind some of the first episode's sensational stunt sequences and talks to John Barrowman, James Marsters and Russell T Davies.

Scarecrow

01-04-2008, 11:19 AM

The trailer keeps getting shown and it looks awesome. :D

- Scarecrow

Just Jeans

01-13-2008, 12:11 AM

With Chris Chibnall jumping ship to ITV (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/broadcasting/a84156/torchwood-writer-to-lead-uk-law-order.html), I wonder who will end up being head writer for series 3 of Torchwood?

Just Jeans

01-14-2008, 01:01 AM

Torchwood on HDNet in the US (http://www.gallifreyone.com/cgi-bin/viewnews.cgi?id=EkppkFlZZVXsVJQUtU&tmpl=newsrss&style=feedstyle)

Series Two of Torchwood is poised to start showing on North American high-definition cable channel HDNet from Monday, February 11.

According to the channel's website, it will air at 7pm Eastern Time, although the site also carries the disclaimer that schedules are subject to change.

HDNet is available on several cable systems as well as satellite and began showing the first series last September.

(Thanks to Tony Mason.)

Scarecrow

01-14-2008, 09:08 AM

Sounds cool, good for you guys.

Saw a different Torchwood trailer yesterday, gettign excited. Also watched Ghost Machine and Cyberwoman as apr tof my lead up viewing of S1. Cyberwoman is an under-rated episode, by far.

- Scarecrow

Scarecrow

01-16-2008, 08:44 AM

Finished Combat last night. Today I'll watch the final two episode of S1 before... yes, it's here, Torchwood series 2!

Rewatching the show I don't get peoples bitching. It really flows well with some great character arcs that are subtle but are there. The second half IS superior but still, a brilliant show overall.

- Scarecrow

Scarecrow

01-17-2008, 08:57 AM

Stunning!

The S2 debut episode is the best episode of TW yet. Fantastic to see the team workjing together so well. I think S1 will be appreciated as a journey of the team bonding and working themselves through their issues... this is where they'll really begin to kick ass. Marsters was genius, a cross between Spike and Jack Sparrow... brilliant!

- Scarecrow

FinalBeyond

01-18-2008, 08:37 PM

The S2 ep wasn't just the best episode of TW yet, it was better than all of them put together. And I really enjoyed Series 1 as well. :p

If this is how it keeps up, Torchwood is going to beat the main series. If ranking my episodes in order of preference, I'd put this above just about all of Series 1 and 2 of Who.

Just Jeans

01-19-2008, 06:09 AM

Great episode. James Marsters is great, and I can't wait to see him back. I like the minor adjustments they've made -- specifically with Owen -- and I look forward to next week.

Scarecrow

01-19-2008, 08:47 AM

http://www.gallifreyone.com/news.php#newsitemEkppyVVZApbCEaYsBM

Unofficial overnight figures gave Episode One of Torchwood, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, an audience of 3.7 million viewers, a 14.8% share of the total audience.

The programme was the highest rated on BBC2 for the day and the 18th most watched on all television.

These are the highest ratings that Torchwood has achieved on BBC2, although the previous series was shown on BBC3 first.

The programme was repeated on BBC3 at 2330 where it got 247,000 viewers.

The first episode of Torchwood, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang scored an Appreciation Index figure of 84. The programme was one of the most appreciated of the day.

The Appreciation Index, or AI, is a measure of how much the audience liked the programme. It is a score out of 100, based on responses from a carefully selected panel. The average score for drama on BBC1 and ITV1 is 77. A score in excess of 85 is regarded as excellent while a score below 60 is poor.

An edited version of episode One, suitable for pre watershed viewing, will be shown on BBC2 on Wednesday 23rd January at 7pm. Meanwhile the unedited version is available to UK viewers for the next few days, via the BBC iplayer.

- Scarecrow

Alex DeLarge

01-19-2008, 09:51 PM

Scarecrow

01-20-2008, 09:32 AM

Extraordinary. "Yeah, but I was a good wife!" "I bet you were." :D It was so freaking cool. It was an action-packed romp, but done cleverly and with so much enthusiasm. This is exactly what Season 1 should have been.

I dunno, I think S1 set up things perfectly and S2 feels like the natural progression to the first arc. At any rate, glad you got to see it and enjoyed it. Favourite line HAS to be about the Poodle. "It's Niiice!"

- Scarecrow

Just Jeans

01-20-2008, 01:11 PM

I really like series 1, but there was some inconsistency to the writing that I found maddening. Thankfully, some of that seems to have been ironed out (particularly with Owen; he seems to have actually matured in the wake of his relationship with Diane, and I think it's going to make him more entertaining to watch this year). I think the extra production time will have made a world of difference.

Incidentally, I like the way Ianto was written in this episode. He didn't have a whole lot to do in series 1 apart from inexplicably falling in love with the man who ordered the destruction of his cyber girlfriend, so it's nice to see him written with some real personality. I love the moment where he's keeping track of how long it'll be before the bomb on John's chest explodes. Ianto had more personality in that scene than he had in the whole of series 1.

Favourite line HAS to be about the Poodle. "It's Niiice!"

Marster's delivered that line pitch perfect. :D

Did anyone else notice that his accent in the episode seemed to wander? People were talking about this on the Doctor Who Forum, and I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed this. It seemed to fluctuate between three or four different accents, which is something that must have been intentional, because he never had that kind of trouble maintaining his accent in the last few years of Buffy/Angel.
ADDED:
For the benefit of those of us who can't access the Torchwood website because we don't live in the UK, here's Owen's report about "the wide goose chase in the Himalayas."

MISSION REPORT #2008/043

Author: Harper, O

Nobody wanted to write this one up, but it looks like I drew the short straw.

Ianto picked up a call came early one morning and called us all in at about 5am. Something funny going on in the Himalayas. I said, perfectly reasonably I thought, you got me out of bed to tell me about what’s happening in China? Ianto said the incident was actually in Pakistan, but I said it’s neither here nor there, the Himalayas are just a bit outside our usual turf and how was this our problem exactly? UNIT should get onto this. Ianto said UNIT were already there and they’d asked for us. All four of us. According to them it was connected to Abaddon.

At that point the day got slightly worse.

Our experience would be valuable, apparently – regardless of the fact that we had no clue how to stop the thing before, Jack was the one who sorted that out and (a) it nearly killed him and (b) Jack disappeared after he came around. Regardless, we were told in no uncertain terms that we had to go. Orders from the highest authority, apparently. With Jack not around to grease palms, we couldn’t get out of it. So we went.

A mere three flights and a helicopter ride later, we were there. We were briefed on the way. They reckoned that they’d found another Rift, halfway up K2, and that it was linked to ours somehow. They’d tied in our report of the Abaddon incident to some strange goings-on there, and seen similarities. If it was true, we needed to liaise and study it (so more paperwork). They gave us the location and an experienced escort party and we set out to take a look. When I saw all the climbing gear I had flashback to Touching the Void and felt a bit ill, but it was just for emergencies – we took a chopper up most of the way, then it was about a half-hour’s walk up a shallow slope.

So we hit the spot, right in the middle of an unbroken stretch of snow, and Tosh set up all the equipment. Spent a couple of hours probing the area, checking for any weird energy… nothing. Then, suddenly, the ground began to shake and we all heard a noise which I can best describe as ‘SPROING!’ And this vaguely humanoid shape popped out of the snow. It was Jack… or rather, it was a sort of doll with Jack’s face. Quite a good likeness. It had popped out of the snow on a spring.

A Jack-in-the-box. How bleeding hilarious.

Then it exploded. And that’ll be what triggered the avalanche.

Fortunately it didn’t come our way: it started higher up the mountain, and we only caught the very edge of it. But it did partly bury the chopper, and we were stuck up there for a few hours until it could be dug out. Whilst they were doing that, Tosh dug up what was left of the Jack-in-the-box and took a look at it, and she says it was activated by her probing for Rift-type activity. So it was set up by someone who knew what we’d gone out there to do. There was no Rift. The whole thing was a set-up. Gwen tried to get some answers about who’d reported the activity, but suddenly nobody seemed to know anything. So we decided to head back home, although suddenly there wasn’t an available transport, so we spent two days waiting.

On our way back, they told us Harry Saxon had won the election, then he murdered the American President, then he was shot dead by his wife. A week really is a long time in politics.

Scarecrow

01-21-2008, 08:54 AM

Is this an ACTUAL Torchwood site or that fan amd eone I keep hearing about?

- Scarecrow

Just Jeans

01-21-2008, 10:49 PM

Owen's report about the Himalayas comes from somewhere on the BBC's Official Torchwood website (http://www.bbc.co.uk/torchwood). I'm not sure which page it's on because I'm in America and can't access the thing, but it's apparently the same as the "reports" that were added to the site last year after each episode aired.

Scarecrow

01-22-2008, 08:08 AM

Cool. Amusing article at any rate.

- Scarecrow

Shoesalesman

01-23-2008, 01:39 AM

Bloody hell, I haven't had time to even watch the season ender from last year. When I have a few hours to myself I'm putting in the tape and shutting off the rest of the world.

Scarecrow

01-23-2008, 08:23 AM

Bloody hell, I haven't had time to even watch the season ender from last year. When I have a few hours to myself I'm putting in the tape and shutting off the rest of the world.

Need to catch up man!

Not to mention there's Doctor WHo Series 3 inbetween the seasons with Jack!

- Scarecrow

Shoesalesman

01-24-2008, 01:14 AM

I think I need to quit my job and just focus on Torchwood and Doctor Who. :hypno:

Just Jeans

01-24-2008, 01:20 AM

Focusing on Doctor Who and Torchwood without money to support the habit is a real drag... so just work half the time you usually do. That should cover all your bases. :D

Shoesalesman

01-24-2008, 01:35 AM

I'll get my boss to phone you, Jeans. Words like that are better coming from the source than a third-party shmuk like me. ;)

Just Jeans

01-24-2008, 06:27 PM

Sleeper overnight ratings (http://www.gallifreyone.com/cgi-bin/viewnews.cgi?id=EkpEEyAlFkZtIuvNdC&tmpl=newsrss&style=feedstyle)

Episode two of Torchwood, Sleeper, achieved an overnight rating of 3.4 million viewers, a 14% share of the television audience. The programme was the highest rated for the day on BBC Two and the 18th most watched programme across the channels.

The edited repeat of episode one, Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang, attained an audience of 1.1 million, while Torchwood Declassified gained 1.0 million viewers.

With figures available for the whole of last week, episode one finished as the highest rated programme on BBC Two for the week, beating the second placed Masterchef by 800,000 viewers.

That's only down 0.2 million viewers from last week. Not bad at all.

Alex DeLarge

01-25-2008, 01:01 AM

Loved the new episode. It was dark, shocking and brutal with a great subtext (even if BSG did it in a similar way, I like TW better... ;)). And the scene with the baby! :eek::eek::eek: James Moran, Chris Chibnall and Russell T. Davies have BALLS.

And oh no! Not the mind probe!

Just Jeans

01-25-2008, 09:19 PM

Brilliant episode, and pretty much how I imagined Torchwood based on the early descriptions (a team investigating crimes with an alien twist).

All of the characters were great. The only problem I had was with Ianto. He had all the best lines, but sometimes you can have too much of a good thing. I kept wondering if he was hyped up on speed (particularly when he sits down in the chair and pretends to be electrocuted). When Owen Harper is giving you "A little professionalism please?" type looks, maybe it's time to have a little lie down.
ADDED:
How Long Will Barrowman Stay? (http://www.gallifreyone.com/cgi-bin/viewnews.cgi?id=EkpEkuVVEpDPWCDEco&tmpl=newsrss&style=feedstyle)

In an interview with Sci Fi Wire (http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=1&id=47594) John Barrowman spoke candidly on how long he will stay as Captain Jack.

"If I was asked to do Jack for the next five or six years I would do it with a big smile on my face, because I absolutely love playing him," Barrowman said in an interview. "When the time comes for us to close the page on Torchwood and Jack Harkness, I'm also then happy to do that when that decision is made. But I think it's got a bit of a life out there. Let's hope we get [season] three, [season] four and, hopefully, [season] five."

Barrowman also talks about the direction of series two and the differences between time travel on Doctor Who and Torchwood.
ADDED:
Torchwood- Appreciation Index (http://www.gallifreyone.com/cgi-bin/viewnews.cgi?id=EkpEkyyulAAnvZbVBL&tmpl=newsrss&style=feedstyle)

Wednesday's showing of Torchwood Episode Two, Sleeper received an Appreciation Index score of 85. This puts the programme in the excellent category and was one of the highest scores on Television on Wednesday. The edited version of Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang scored 82.

Scarecrow

01-31-2008, 08:10 AM

"Beautifu". That'd be my word to sum up lats nights Torchwood. A really poigant character peice with Tosh in the spotlight. Some wonderful character moments and a well told story, it also shows the improved TW will keep the variety of the first series with character based episodes such as these. A really sad, emotional ending... I just hope Tosh gets lucky in love some time soon! Oh and THAT kiss! Go Ianto!

- Scarecrow

Just Jeans

02-01-2008, 02:16 AM

Overnight Ratings (http://www.gallifreyone.com/cgi-bin/viewnews.cgi?id=EkpEZZyVkZkmYLGwJt&tmpl=newsrss&style=feedstyle)

Unofficial overnight figures give Episode Three, To The Last Man, an audience of 3.2 million viewers, which was a 13% share of the total television audience.

The programme was the highest rated on BBC2 for the day, comfortably ahead of Masterchef which got 2.6 million viewers.

The programme is repeated in an edited version on BBC2 Thursday evening and is available to UK viewers for the next seven days via the BBC iPlayer.

The One and Only

02-03-2008, 05:02 AM

Caught Sleeper tonight on BBC America, and have to say cool episode. While one would feel for Elizabeth in in her situtation finding out that she was an alien sleeper agent ,and all. I was waiting for someone to cap her suddenly when a warm and fuzzy end to the ep was coming up. Also, sorry to see what happened to that baby.:eek: I take it that this episode is the set up for the Seaon Finale with these buggers being the Big Bad. As the one Sleeper said about the invasion, "It's already started...":evil: Although I can't help but think that the producers must've been reading the Ultimates Vol. 1 and the upcoming news on Secret Invasion when plotting this episode.

Just Jeans

02-03-2008, 05:06 AM

Sleeper agents are pretty much a Sci-Fi staple.

I wonder how edited down this was on BBC America? I'm going to watch it later to see. I can't imagine it was nearly as gory as it was on BBC Two, but I could be wrong.

The One and Only

02-03-2008, 05:24 AM

^ It was gorier over in the UK ?!? :eek: I'm rather surprised to read that little tidbit. I'm always reading over on this side of the pond that when it comes to violence , the Brits are a little bit more stringent when it comes to violence in the media. But anywho good episode.

I know the whole "They're Amongst Us.." angle has been a staple in sci-fi probaly before the term was coined. But Ultimates Vol. 1 and Secret Invasion are the more succesful examples of it being utilized. It was done to death, and half assedly on The Outer Limits as I remember. Not as cool as those two I had mentioned. Although I''m also remiss if I don't mention Robert Doherty's excellent series of sci-fi/military action novels, the Area 51 series.

Just Jeans

02-03-2008, 07:50 AM

^ It was gorier over in the UK ?!? :eek:

I'm not sure as yet, I still need to see the BBC America airing, but the BBC 2 version was extremely bloody, particularly in the last 10 or 15 minutes.

Scarecrow

02-03-2008, 08:17 AM

Gotta love the male Sleeper stabbing the guy through the chest about four or five time before we cut away and see the blood explode all over his wifes face. :D :p

- Scarecrow

Just Jeans

02-03-2008, 10:05 AM

Yeah, that's one of the moments I expected to be toned down just a bit. :o And also, when the male sleeper impales the soldier and then pulls the blade back out.

Just finished watching To The Last Man. That was a really good episode. Very emotional. Of course, I knew that the romance between Tommy and Tosh was going to go horribly wrong, and I also expect that this relationship between Ianto and Jack isn't going to last all season. It's going to end badly. It always does in these kinds of dramas.

Scarecrow

02-04-2008, 08:23 AM

I don't know, there haven't so far been any major falling outs or conflicts between the main characters that hasn't made them stronger. I don't know where the Jack / Ianto thing is going but it might not all end in tears yet.

- Scarecrow

Just Jeans

02-05-2008, 09:47 AM

I've read some comments on TDWF that suggests Ianto might not be entirely over the memory of Lisa. Apparently there's much talk about that in the spoiler threads. I'm not sure where it's going to go, but I'll bet it could well play a factor in a bumpy road for Jack and Ianto.
ADDED:
Look who decided to rear his ugly head in one of the new Torchwood novels:

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x124/f13thtribute/Billis.jpg

There's a part of the city that no one much goes to, a collection of rundown old houses and gloomy streets. No one stays there long, and no one can explain why - something's not quite right there. Now the Council is renovating the district, and a new company is overseeing the work. There will be street parties and events to show off the newly gentrified neighbourhood: clowns and face-painters for the kids, magicians for the adults - the street entertainers of Cardiff, out in force. None of this is Torchwood's problem. Until Toshiko recognises the sponsor of the street parties: Bilis Manger.

Now there is something for Torchwood to investigate. But Captain Jack Harkness has never been able to get into the area; it makes him physically ill to go near it. Without Jack's help, Torchwood must face the darker side of urban Cardiff alone...Featuring Captain Jack Harkness as played by John Barrowman, with Gwen Cooper, Owen Harper, Toshiko Sato and Ianto Jones as played by Eve Myles, Burn Gorman, Naoki Mori and Gareth David-Lloyd, in the hit series created by Russell T Davies for BBC Television.

I'm surprised they've opted to follow Bilis up in the novels rather than in the show.

Scarecrow

02-05-2008, 09:59 AM

Nothing to suggest they won't return to him some day though. I mean, they clearly left him alive at the end so it'd be silly not to use him ever again IMO.

- Scarecrow

Just Jeans

02-05-2008, 01:52 PM

It wouldn't be much different from Ethan Rayne over in Buffy -- he escaped with his life after his last appearance in season 4 and he didn't turn up again until the Season 8 comic book series.

But given what Bilis put them though, I half expected a big showdown between him and the team at some point. It sort of kills the drama in the team finally finding him on-screen if they've already bumped into and parted ways with him again beforehand.

I suppose it depends on the outcome of events in this novel, but if they've decided to use the character in print without first readdressing him in the show, I won't be holding my breath for another on-screen appearance (if he does turn up, I expect it won't be until at least series 3).

I feel basically the same way about the Zygons. Now that they've appeared in the New Series novels, I don't really expect them to turn up on-screen in Doctor Who any time soon.

Alex DeLarge

02-05-2008, 04:56 PM

I suppose it depends on the outcome of events in this novel, but if they've decided to use the character in print without first readdressing him in the show, I won't be holding my breath for another on-screen appearance (if he does turn up, I expect it won't be until at least series 3).

Chibnall's confirmed this much. He said Bilis won't be in Series 2 and thus, allowed him to be used in a novel. But he also said he could appear in a future Series.

Just Jeans

02-05-2008, 05:48 PM

Seeing as Chibnall is no longer the head writer/show runner of Torchwood, there's no telling how that'll turn out.

Alex DeLarge

02-05-2008, 06:07 PM

He said he COULD appear, not that he would. Even if he wasn't still the head man, RTD will still presumably oversee it all for S3 and it could be part of HIS plans.

Scarecrow

02-05-2008, 08:14 PM

And besides Ethan Rayne was imprisoned by the Intiative so if nothing else the character had an ending you could accept. he didn't just vanished he was imprisoned by the government and in terms of just the TV series that's his ultimate fate. Bilis could have easily been killed in End of Days but they clearly chose to leave him alive.

- Scarecrow

Just Jeans

02-06-2008, 06:10 AM

Suppose we'll find out sooner or later.

Scarecrow

02-06-2008, 08:11 AM

Indeed. At any rate, I think this new batch of books will have stronger links to the series and world and it's great to see Gary Russel writing one. With his links to the production team i think it'll help the book feel more intergrated.

- Scarecrow

Scarecrow

02-07-2008, 08:45 AM

Another awesome episode. Very sad ending for the Space Whale and Owen's remorse was perfectly pitched, and Tosh being there for him was a wonderful touch. Great to see Rhys getting a really, excuse the pun, meaty role this week and a nice twist not using the retcon.

- Scarecrow

Scarecrow

02-14-2008, 10:31 AM

Another excellent episode, although only watched the BBC2 one. Will go into more details later but for now, just to sya it was one of the best episodes yet again.

- Scarecrow

Dezibluenose

02-18-2008, 05:50 PM

I've really being enjoying Torchwood this year.

Last weeks episdoe was great. But right at the start I was sure I seen a shot of Jack with a Dalek gun from Daleks In Manhatten (Dr Who last year)

To double check I was right I went onto another message board for confirmation. It's true, the shot was there, but then I stumbled across a huge spoiler for this weeks episode.

Ruined this week for me. Utterly ruined it. There was no warning it was a spoiler either. Im a bit PO'd about it as when this thing happens it won't be a surprise to me.

It may be common knowledge but I won't say anything till the episode airs. No point spoiling it for other people

Just Jeans

02-19-2008, 01:45 PM

If it's the spoiler I think it is, I just stumbled across the same one, Dez. And I wasn't even in the Torchwood subsection of the forum I was on. :meh: It's pretty much put me off even visiting the Doctor Who Forum.

Seriously, why would someone talk about what happens to Owen outside the appropriate forum? :mad:

Dezibluenose

02-19-2008, 06:35 PM

Yep that's the same spolier Jeans.

We probably seen the same post/thread. After I read it I was not happy.

I don't mind reading spoilers if I actively seek them out myself, but I didn't want to see this one.

And something else has made it worse - yet another unwarned Torchwood spoiler. This time it was a picture that someone posted. Once again I won't mention it and won't even put what I seen in spolier tags but it's carrying on from the spoiler I read earlier.

I know that sounds cryptic but I don't want to spoil things. When it eventually airs I'll make a comment then.

But like yourself Jeans, for the time being Im thinking about avoiding the Doctor Who forum. The only things I'll be going to see is the merchandise thread (Im trying in vain to keep up with all the figures on sale) and hoping to see a glimpse of Davros.

Just Jeans

02-21-2008, 01:53 AM

Exclusive: 'Torchwood' Hub Means A New Martha (http://www.syfyportal.com/news424739.html)

This story contains MODERATE SPOILERS for Season 2 of "Torchwood" and the upcoming fourth season of "Doctor Who."

Her name is Martha Jones, and last year she saved the world. But at the end of her 13-episode stint as The Doctor’s companion, BBC bosses announced that Freema Agyeman would be giving up her full-time role on the series to make way for the return of Catherine Tate.

The news both disheartened and elated Martha Jones fans, because although the character will have a reduced part in the upcoming fourth season of "Doctor Who," she will have an additional three-episode run on the adult-themed spinoff for BBC Two and BBC America, "Torchwood."

This announcement caused quite a media stir within the British press as tabloids had already made a variety of outlandish claims about her future with the series. However, in an exclusive interview with SyFy Portal, Agyeman set the record straight as to why she’ll be stepping into the Hub instead of the Tardis.

"The decision was character based 100 percent," Agyeman told SyFy Portal’s Alan Stanley Blair. "In this business, no one has to do anyone any favors, and if they weren’t happy, I’d be completely away. The rumors of my departure came five weeks before the press announcement on the future of the series and it happened without any of the facts. I was hugely pleased with the decision to go to ‘Torchwood.’ And gosh, going back to ‘Who’ as well. There was no scandal, no ill feelings in any way. The tabloids put two and two together and came up with five and a half."

So, beginning with the sixth episode of “Torchwood,” the now fully qualified Dr. Martha Jones will take on the weird, the wacky and the paranormal from Cardiff Bay as part of Team Torchwood. But don’t expect to see a darker Martha, especially since the BBC believes she’ll attract a slightly younger audience.

"They are very mindful that I’ll be going between the two shows," Agyeman said. "We know Martha has a large youth following so we’ve been mindful that we’re not having sex or swearing in case some of the younger fans tune in. Even though there is a pre-watershed edit we can’t control who will tune in."

In the episode, Martha (who is now working for alien specialists UNIT that was established in the original run of "Doctor Who") receives a call from Capt. Jack Harkness (John Barrowman) following a string of unexplained deaths. As a UNIT operative, she has also been looking into the events and has more information than Torchwood does making her a valuable asset to solving the case.

"There is a really nice arc in those three episodes actually," she said. "Jack calls Martha to give them a hand in Episode 6 and because Martha is in UNIT now, she has a little bit more information that he needs. And the consequences of that ends in a great cliff-hanger leading into episode seven so it’s really like a good two-parter. By the end of Episode 8, she’s part of the team. It is a very natural progression of the character that I’m really pleased with.”

Of course, with both shows being such different entities, how much of the old “Doctor Who” dynamic crosses over with Martha? When Barrowman initially returned to “Doctor Who” for its final three episodes last season, we saw a lighter side to him than what was the norm for the Torchwood leader. And Agyeman confirmed that the same holds true for Martha.

“You take this character into a different environment and you wonder how people take to that,” she said. “These are all new experiences for an all-new character in a new environment. She’s harder, more qualified and able to do things alone without looking to The Doctor. She’s very different and she’ll be very different again when she’s about him. Because when you are with different people you behave differently. That’s how I perceived it and that’s how I tried to play it.”

And as a result, fans can only expect a few references to their history over the three-episode arc.

"It’s touched on but not discussed -- mostly in a lovely moment between the two characters,” she hinted. “It would be weird if they didn’t talk about it, but the team don’t even know where he [Jack] went when he vanished. In ‘Torchwood’ he is a much more mysterious character and the team aren’t privy to all the details of his past. They don’t know how he knows Martha. But the audience do and so can enjoy it.”

When she joined the series, Agyeman felt she had a good idea of what to expect with regards to production, writing and acting – unfortunately she wasn’t quite prepared for John “The Prankster” Barrowman who welcomed her to the series in his own special way. And he did it with a song.

“There is always something with John, but half of it is rude so I won’t go into it,” Agyeman said with a laugh. “I don’t know anyone with such a natural energy like him. For my first day he prepared a lovely song about Martha preaching about The Doctor and traveling the world. And then after a year she was doing it with a banjo. They are all just so witty on the show with a lot of laughter on the set and I feel so fortunate to be a part of it.”

Following her adventures in Cardiff, Martha will again travel in space and time with The Doctor and his new companion Donna Noble (Catherine Tate).

“In ‘Torchwood,’ Jack calls her up as they are looking into the same deaths and they join forces to work. And then in ‘Doctor Who’ Martha calls The Doctor for help using the phone he left her last year," she said.

The BBC advertising campaign for the return of the series is already well in motion with a rather epic trailer attached to almost every film currently being shown in British cinemas. The footage shows plenty of action including a naked Martha coming out of a pod covered in goo, the return of Billie Piper, and also Catherine Tate behind bars. What is it all about? Not even Agyeman knows the full story.

"I haven’t seen it [the trailer] myself but that sounds like a brilliant montage," Agyeman exclaimed with a touch of laughter. "I don’t know what it’s about … I know what my bit is about. I haven’t worked with Billie yet but I’m a huge fan of the 'Catherine Tate Show' and I wasn’t disappointed. She’s such a warm, funny and generous person and was actually the only thing different between working on Seasons 3 and 4. It was actually like she’d never gone after the Christmas episode and there is a great dynamic between the three of us and she’s doing a fabulous job.

"The two seasons aren’t hugely apart. I met a lot of people doing Season 2 and I met lots on my first stay, carving out a little niche if you like. Coming back was surprisingly easier because nothing is different apart from Catherine. It was great seeing David [Tennant] again, the crew again and the whole thing is like going back to school after the holidays. Never did it feel overwhelming and I was overjoyed to be back."

Despite confirmation from the showrunners that fan favorites The Ood will make a comeback -- as well as classic series villains The Sontarans -- there are rumors circulating via the increasingly unreliable British tabloids that all of the Doctors will be coming together for a single purpose: to fight Davros (who will apparently be played by Sir Ben Kingsley).

Nothing has been confirmed by the Beeb and all signs point toward another fabrication by the papers to grab some headlines. As for the true plot of the final episodes, Agyeman remains coy and says fans will just need to wait and see.

"I hadn’t read the script for Episode 13 until recently and I’ve been asked so many things about it. But now I’ve read it and I’m going to have to flat out lie to you – I’m going to let you wait and see.”

Agyeman was able to provide a few exclusive spoilers about what to expect from the series when she returns that you won’t find anywhere else – we might be seeing a slightly different looking Martha at some point in “Doctor Who” thanks to some interesting makeup effects.

"I get to use prosthetics and that was quite exciting,” she said. “There are two different sets on two different body parts. One is on the torso area, which was quite ticklish, and one on the face. That really made me have a high admiration for those boys who do it every day on ‘Doctor Who.’

“I love working in that family and it’s been such a great opportunity … there might be more from Martha."

“Doctor Who” is still a while away, but for now fans can catch her on BBC Three’s documentary "Bizarre ER," a show that has a "nice little Doctor link and is all about weird things that happen in the ER.” Agyeman is doing the voiceover for the series and will take a look at some of the more interesting things that have been seen in accident and emergency units. And no, Judoon invasions aren’t included.

“I’d like to leave a message for the fans and say I’m so grateful for all their support and I really hope they like the transition Martha has gone through and that they get some enjoyment out of it,” Agyeman added.

Scarecrow

02-21-2008, 09:50 AM

Torchwood gets better and better. What an ending! Some dramatic stuff this series!

- Scarecrow

Just Jeans

02-21-2008, 10:10 AM

Yes, pity that ending was ruined for me by some inconsiderate twonk over on The Doctor Who Forum. :meh:

Dezibluenose

02-22-2008, 05:49 PM

Yes, pity that ending was ruined for me by some inconsiderate twonk over on The Doctor Who Forum. :meh:

Yep, same here.

Really good episode though even if I knew what was coming.

Loved the small mentions towards Doctor Who.

So far the only fault I have with this series episodes is that Jack came back a little bit too quickly for my liking. I was hoping he wouldnt return for the first episode at least.

But that's just a small complaint. Everything else has been great.

Just Jeans

02-25-2008, 03:19 AM

I've just watched "Adam" and "Reset". By far two of the best episodes of Torchwood yet. They're my first 5/5 ratings this season. Marvelous stuff.

Alex DeLarge

02-25-2008, 05:39 AM

Adam was... incredible. Jaw-dropping. My favorite Torchwood yet as well, up there with the best of DW in general. STUNNING writing. Reset was very good, but I dunno if I'd rate it as high as Adam. It was a bit too fast-paced for me, but I still really enjoyed it, loved Martha of course and at times felt like a live action Metal Gear Solid!

Dead Man Walking was... interesting. The plot was a bit all over the place, never quite sure what it wanted to do, with Act 3 pretty much falling apart. But I did love the continuation of the mythos of Torchwood. The glove, something coming in the darkness, and possibly the Beast/Abaddon mythos, since they're very similar and it's written by Matt Jones. And Owen is absolutely marvellous now, I'm adoring what they're doing with his character. Overall, probably my least favorite this season but only by default really. This whole season's been stunning.

Just Jeans

02-25-2008, 06:34 AM

I particularly liked Martha in Reset. Her character has developed nicely since leaving the Doctor. It's good to see her established and independent and not following someone around like a love sick puppy.

I still really enjoyed it, loved Martha of course and at times felt like a live action Metal Gear Solid!

Interestingly enough, when Martha was skulking around in the dark in those obnoxiously noisy shoes, I said out loud: "You're no Solid Snake, dearheart." She really should have worn plimsolls for infiltration -- much less noisy.

Scarecrow

02-25-2008, 08:10 AM

This series just gets better and better. Seriously, I've been stunned but the constant quality of the series this year and I'm anxiously waiting each new episode.

- Scarecrow

Alex DeLarge

02-25-2008, 12:41 PM

I particularly liked Martha in Reset. Her character has developed nicely since leaving the Doctor. It's good to see her established and independent and not following someone around like a love sick puppy.

Interestingly enough, when Martha was skulking around in the dark in those obnoxiously noisy shoes, I said out loud: "You're no Solid Snake, dearheart." She really should have worn plimsolls for infiltration -- much less noisy.

Yeah, I thought the same!

Just Jeans

02-26-2008, 06:35 PM

I've just noticed that the opening montage at the beginning of Adam is re-edited with at least one scene that have never been in the show. There's a shot of the team handling the human Dalek weapons from Evolution of the Daleks, and Owen is clearly shown to be his geeky version. That was a cheeky little "rewriting" of our own perception of the team. I liked that.

I didn't notice it the first time I saw, despite the fact that Dez mentioned it. :X
ADDED:
The last few episodes of Torchwood have been named by Torchwood Magazine:

Episode 8 - A Day in the Death by Joe Lidster
Episode 9 - Something Borrowed by Phil Ford
Episode 10 - From Out of the Rain by PJ Hammond
Episode 11 - Adrift by Chris Chibnail
Episode 12 - Fragments by Chris Chibnail
Episode 13 - Exit Wounds by Chris Chibnail

Dezibluenose

02-29-2008, 04:44 PM

Another good episode. And now I can reveal the second spoiler picture I seen. Still putting it in spoilers though for those yet to see the episode

It was a picture of the glove that brings Owen back to life. For anyone that has seen the episode it's pretty obvious it didnt spoil the epsiode that much but still Id of preferred not to have seen it.

Anyway, as I said, it was a good episode. I kept thinking Owen would go back to normal after he fought Death. Next weeks episode looks good too.

I wonder if Owen is going to go rouge for the rest of the series. It would be good to see him and Jack facing off. Neither can die so who can win that battle?

Alex DeLarge

02-29-2008, 08:42 PM

Scarecrow

03-01-2008, 04:32 PM

Latest episode:

Break all his bones and he's in trouble...

- Scarecrow

Just Jeans

03-14-2008, 07:36 AM

I never thought I'd relate with Owen Harper so completely. That bit where he has a go at Toshiko -- "I am broken, Tosh!" -- is eerily identical to a meltdown that occurred between my best friend and I about four months ago, right down to the deliberately hurting of one's self to prove a point.

I know exactly how Owen feels. Only instead of feeling that way for three days, I've felt this way for nearly three years.

Scarecrow

03-14-2008, 08:08 AM

Owen was stunning in his arc and the latest episode was probably the best wedding episode ever. Plus Evil Dead reference!

- Scarecrow

FinalBeyond

04-05-2008, 05:41 AM

Right, now the series is done, I think this thread deserves a bump. Chibnall gave us a few real masterpieces to end the series. I'll refrain from posting spoilers, as I know I'm always drawn to them even when I don't want to know, but wow. Exit Wounds was amazing.

Just Jeans

04-05-2008, 05:52 AM

Does it end with a cliffhanger, like last year?

Scarecrow

04-05-2008, 08:27 AM

Exit Wounds MAJOR spoilers:

It was amazing.. but also horrible. Tosh was my favourite character and her death was so utterly heart wrenching and it really hurts to think we won't be seeing her again. Owen was great but his arc was done to an extent but I felt Tosh ahd so much more to offer (not just that cleavage)... really still upset by this. Brilliant series though.

- Scarecrow

FinalBeyond

04-05-2008, 06:09 PM

Does it end with a cliffhanger, like last year?

No Who lead-in, if that's what you mean. Which is for the best. It works well enough on its own.

Just Jeans

04-05-2008, 11:51 PM

I was actually more curious if Torchwood had taken a page out of Doctor Who's book and ended on a cliffhanger.

Scarecrow

04-06-2008, 09:08 AM

It ended perfectly, everything considered...

- Scarecrow

Dezibluenose

04-06-2008, 01:29 PM

Thought it was a brilliant last episode.

Everything was just great

Just Jeans

06-03-2008, 02:14 AM

TV Guide (http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-News-Blog/Todays-News/Torchwood-Season-3/800040744) has confirmed that John Barrowman has signed on for series three.

Also in the TV Guide article, Julie Gardner confirms that Torchwood will be shortened to five episodes for it's third series. Not only that, but all five episodes will air in the same week:

Tired of all the rumors surrounding Torchwood's future, TVGuide.com went directly to the rift, er, Cardiff, Wales, to learn if the truth was out there.

Well, 'Woodies (or Torchies, if you prefer), scripts for Season 3 are currently being developed and filming should start in the middle of August for airing on BBC1 in the spring of 2009. Best news of all, John Barrowman will return as the dashing bi-sexual adventurer. Though keeping more details close to the vest, executive producer Julie Gardner vows that fans "will be pleased with the casting." That better mean Eve Myles is returning!

Fans, however, may not be so happy with the mere five hours slated for next season. "We've decided to do a five-part mini-series, one big story that will run during one week," says Gardner, adding, "I wanted to make a really big noise about the show."

So far, the BBC has only green lit these five hours, but there could be more, we're told. When (or even whether) BBC America will run the mini-series has yet to be decided.

Looks like I was on the right track in the Doctor Who thread re: a short series for Torchwood next year. Wish I'd have been wrong, frankly. I hope the "there could be more" bit develops into "there will be more".

I wonder if the decision to do a short series in 2009 may have to do with the lack of a full series of Doctor Who in 2009? And I wonder who the head writer is going to be? It could be Moffat, I suppose.

The One and Only

06-03-2008, 04:21 AM

Any hint to what the plotline for the mini-series could be ? Personally I'm hoping to see more of the alien sleeper cells from Season Two's "Sleeper". That plotline was sort've left hanging out there to latch onto.

Just Jeans

06-03-2008, 04:34 AM

I have a feeling it'll involve Grey somehow.

Alex DeLarge

06-03-2008, 04:43 AM

God, I hope the One and Only's right and not Jeans. I really liked how the Grey story started and it didn't suck THAT much in the end; it just wasn't as great as I expected, which is heavily influenced by the fact that I HATED Grey's actor with a firey passion. It was a great finale, don't get me wrong, but the Grey stuff was definately the weakest element of it. Not to mention, we just had Grey stuff! I think following up on Sleeper would be brilliant. I just have my fingers crossed for a RTD script and a James Marsters apperance!

Just Jeans

06-03-2008, 04:46 AM

I hope I'm wrong too. I'm not a fan of Grey. The actor was rubbish for one thing.

Alex DeLarge

06-03-2008, 04:50 AM

Yeah, he really was terrible. I was genuinely shocked by how bad he was, especially considered with how good a lot of their actors are. I mean this guy's supposed to be going toe-to-toe with John Barrowman and James Marsters giving the performances of their lives, they NEEDED to get someone of their caliber.

TheShowstoppa

06-06-2008, 06:03 PM

So I only have 2 disks left in Series 1 of Torchwood and I have to say that I'm starting to lean towards this a lot more than Doctor Who. A lot more. I think Captain Jack is one of the best characters to EVER be dreamed up and brought to life and John Borrowman is AMAZING.

I can tell like Jeans warned me earlier that the first season feels kinda rushed. I would prefer Series 2 be out now, but I will add it to my Netflix or buy it when it comes out on DVD (along with Series 1).

So how many episodes did they do in the second series? And why are they only doing 1 week of episodes instead of a full shoot for series 3?

Just Jeans

06-06-2008, 06:08 PM

There's 13 episodes in series 2.

Why they're doing five episodes broadcast over a single week next year is still a mystery. I expect it's because of the budget cutbacks going on at the BBC, and possibly because of the big staff changes going on in the Doctor Who/Torchwood production teams in 2009. There's still no word on who is taking over as head writer now that Chris Chibnall has legged it over to Law & Order: London.

Just Jeans

06-15-2008, 09:42 AM

Torchwood on BBC 1 in 2009 (http://www.gallifreyone.com/news.php#newsitemEkEFVEyplAJjdbIhUH)

According to the latest issue of Torchwood Magazine, Executive Producer Julie Gardner has confirmed rumours that the show will move to BBC1 with a much shorter run.

The magazine reports that the third series will consist of five episodes forming one continuous story with at least one penned by Russell T. Davies.

"It's the longest and most ambitious story we have ever made, so be prepared for some shocks and surprises!" Gardner told the magazine. She added: "Life at Torchwood is never quiet or easy and the whole of Captain Jack's world is about to be turned upside down!"

The new series will begin filming in August for transmission in early 2009.

TheShowstoppa

06-15-2008, 10:27 AM

o_O Early 09?! WHAT THE HELL?!?!?!

It'll have a year reprieve? That horribly sucks. At least it's jumping to BBC One. Maybe we can get more episodes if this fares well.

Just Jeans

06-15-2008, 10:29 AM

It hasn't even started production yet, and in the UK they don't air these things until they're in the can. It's a shorter turn-around than between series 1 and 2. :X

Same thing with Doctor Who, normally -- each series begins just about a year exactly after the previous series began.

Scarecrow

06-15-2008, 11:34 AM

technically, not REALLy a mini-series as such thigns don't exist. I mean Silent Witness series consist of like 3 2 hour episodes over a single weekenbd. The way it's done.

This is great news in terms of BBC1 and I hope hope we get a full Series 4 after!

- Scarecrow

Just Jeans

06-15-2008, 11:39 AM

I'm not sure whether one story cut into five pieces and broadcast over a single week is a standard broadcasting technique in the UK -- the reaction I've seen from UK fans doesn't seem to suggest it is -- but over here that's pretty much the archetypal mini-series format.

Scarecrow

06-15-2008, 11:44 AM

That's how Prime Suspect, worked and a lot of other series. Not unusual at all for specific drama series.

- Scarecrow

Alex DeLarge

06-16-2008, 03:31 PM

YES. At least one of the 5 episodes of Torchwood will be written by the "T." :D

Scarecrow

06-17-2008, 08:51 AM

Good to see him back at Torchwood. Maybe he can ressurect Tosh! :p

- Scarecrow

Alex DeLarge

06-17-2008, 09:22 AM

Good to see him back at Torchwood. Maybe he can ressurect Tosh! :p

- Scarecrow

She's dead. Deal with it. :p I'd rather see him spend the time writing for Captain John. Why do I get the feeling he'd write the most delightfully bitchy Captain John ever? :shy:

TheShowstoppa

06-18-2008, 02:41 AM

I just started Series 2 tonight. I figured I could watch an episode a night or something like that and then Doctor Who will carry me through the move.

I still find this show to be superior to Who, but I will say that I know I'm in store for a lot of things in this series. :) I totally need the theme for a ringtone though!

Scarecrow

06-18-2008, 08:26 AM

The Torchwood theme IS awesome. Love it. Hope you enjoy series 2!

- Scarecrow

Just Jeans

06-20-2008, 05:06 PM

Speaking of the music, Torchwood Magazine has confirmed the soundtrack CD is on the way:

A selection of Ben Foster's rousing music for series one and two of Torchwood will be released on CD by Silva Screen Records later this year. Turn to page 20 for an interview with Ben Foster.

Murray Gold made an off-hand comment about this being lined up for an August release the last time I had the opportunity to chat with him on MySpace, so here's hoping that's still the planned release date. And I hope some of Murray's music is on this, because I'd like an extended version of the theme tune and Captain John's Theme, as well as music from Everything Changes.

Scarecrow

06-21-2008, 08:08 AM

Brilliant news, really need to start getting these! :D

- Scarecrow

FinalBeyond

06-21-2008, 08:51 PM

Oh yes. Been waiting for this since I heard Owen's Theme, which is perhaps the best bit of music in Who-related shows today. Even beats out Doomsday for me.

Just Jeans

06-22-2008, 04:30 AM

Yeah, I dig Owen's Theme as well.

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I'm glad an official release is finally coming. I've been waiting for it for ages.
ADDED:
Hey Eric -- based on the preview I've just seen for next week's episode of Doctor Who, you'll probably want to finish series 2 of Torchwood before watching series 4 of Doctor Who.
ADDED:
Series 2 Torchwood spoilers, and Series 4 Doctor Who spoilers:

You know, given that Ianto and Gwen are appearing in Doctor Who, and given that there are rumors of Martha and Mickey leaving with Jack at the end of the series 4 finale, I'm beginning to wonder if the move to BBC One, and the decision to do a five part storyline, will tie directly into the Doctor Who series 4 finale?

I wonder if the plot could have to do with Torchwood cleaning up the fallout of the Dalek invasion of Earth.

TheShowstoppa

06-22-2008, 06:23 AM

Yeah - I decided I would watch all of Torchwood before I saw Who series 4. That and the fact that I just couldn't wait to see the rest of it!

Just Jeans

06-22-2008, 06:29 AM

I'm going to make a prediction -- you're really going to dislike the series 2 finale. :X

Scarecrow

06-22-2008, 08:21 AM

(Doctor Who S4 spoilers as well as TW S2) I do wonder if they weren't given the blessing to be killed so it'd be easier to feature elss characters in the DW finale. The enxt time trailer shows Gwen and Ianto but not sure if Owen would have fit so well and it's already going to be packed as it is!

- Scarecrow

TheShowstoppa

06-23-2008, 05:37 AM

I'm going to make a prediction -- you're really going to dislike the series 2 finale. :X

I might have to disagree. I love things that are unexpected. However, due to your little smiley up there, I'm going to assume this isn't as story-book as the series one finale. :confused:

I just watched the episode with the guy from 1918. I think Tosh is a good character! She's extremely good looking too! :)

So - I think I've got one of those straight "man-crushes" on John Borrowman because I just love every second he's on screen. I just really wish him and Gwen would GET IT ON already, because frankly, Aianto is a little boy who can't make up his mind - Cyberwoman or Jack. Dude, seriously?!

I also can't wait for James Marsters to come back! His characters are always witty and amazing! I loved him as Brainiac, but I tell you - this is growning on me too. :)

Just Jeans

06-23-2008, 06:23 AM

However, due to your little smiley up there, I'm going to assume this isn't as story-book as the series one finale. :confused:

The season two finale is called Exit Wounds. You can draw your own conclusions. :X

Scarecrow

06-23-2008, 08:34 AM

"To the Last Man" was a brilliant, very emotional episode. Seeing Tosh in those outfits wasn't too shabby either. :D Series 2, IMO, is consistently better than the first... and I loved the first too.

- Scarecrow

TheShowstoppa

06-23-2008, 06:08 PM

I just watched the episode "Adam." It was the last one I watched last night. It was good, but it wasn't great. It was also nice to see Tosh and Owen switch roles so to speak. I also agree about "To the Last Man." Brilliant episode, but I hear there are better this season. "Meat" was good also.

Just Jeans

06-23-2008, 11:11 PM

Meat has Barrowman's worst line delivery to date. It's as close as I've ever come to cringing.

TheShowstoppa

06-24-2008, 05:59 AM

The one about "Welcome to Earth" or what?

Adam had a line that I thought was intreguing and I'm glad the it FINALLY came out. Er... 2 actually.

Just Jeans

06-24-2008, 07:10 AM

Scarecrow

06-24-2008, 08:25 AM

I loved Meat, one of my favourite epsidoes. Itr was really harsh, I found and had no problem with any lines.

- Scarecrow

sam hane

06-24-2008, 10:49 AM

"Welcome to planet Earth" didn't bother me at all. It was something along the lines of "What have they done to you my poor friend?" that made me grit my teeth.

He didn't even deliver a line that badly in Shark Attack 3.

Oh I completely agree with you Jeans. That line seemed so weird to me. I was like since when is Captain Jack the Dr Dolittle of the universe?

Just Jeans

06-24-2008, 11:59 AM

I really enjoyed Meat, but that one line is easily the worst delivery I've ever seen Barrowman give (granted, I've not seen his entire back catalog, but of what I have seen... that's easily a low point).

TheShowstoppa

06-24-2008, 03:27 PM

He was in Shark Attack 3? Oh... My... God...

Just Jeans

06-25-2008, 02:37 AM

He was the main character in Shark Attack 3.

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x124/f13thtribute/SharkAttack3.jpg

We all got to start somewhere. That love scene was pretty funny, though. :X

Another interesting fact -- John Barrowman auditioned to play Will in Will & Grace, but the producers told him he was "too straight". :shifty:

TheShowstoppa

06-25-2008, 08:07 AM

Another interesting fact -- John Barrowman auditioned to play Will in Will & Grace, but the producers told him he was "too straight". :shifty:

:X... HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Now that's freakin' classic.

Scarecrow

06-25-2008, 08:12 AM

Barrowman is pretty much the reason I need to see Shark Attack 3. :p

- Scarecrow

TheShowstoppa

06-26-2008, 09:38 AM

Finished the Series. Couldn't stop watching... Damn show. Jeans... you were partially right. I could handle one death, but 2?! WHAT THE HELL!?!?! Especially the hottest character! (Tosh, incase you're wondering.)

And about what Series 3 is about - I'll have to agree with Jeans - It's probably got a lot to do with Grey than anything else. Though - The sleeper storyline would be great too!

Just Jeans

06-26-2008, 10:30 PM

The closer we get to the end of Doctor Who this year, the less I think series 3 of Torchwood will have to do with Grey. I think series 3 will be directly linked to the finale of Doctor Who, which is why we've been told nothing about series 3 thus far (apart from the format change).

My reasons for this line of thinking, spoiler tagged as it relates to what will/could happen in the series 4 Doctor Who finale -- given that the Earth is about to be devastated by a Dalek invasion, and given the rumors that Martha and Mickey will be leaving with Captain Jack, Gwen and Ianto at the end of Doctor Who this year, I think the third series of Torchwood will revolve around the team cleaning up the aftermath of the Dalek invasion.

Basically, I think a direct link to Doctor Who may play a role in the show being moved to BBC One in 2009 (it'll also work as a stop-gap for Doctor Who being mostly off the air that year) and why it'll be one long 5 hour storyline as opposed to 13 stand-alone episodes.

Scarecrow

06-27-2008, 08:29 AM

Probably helps it'll give them a chancxe to gyet a new producer and head writer before both shows come back in force in 2010!

- Scarecrow

DouglasJ

07-07-2008, 12:08 PM

Slowly working my way through series 2 on DVD. Missed most of it due to work etc. I did however see the last Episode. Since it, much like this years Who finale, had me filling up, I'm not looking forward to seeing that again.

Scarecrow

07-08-2008, 08:49 AM

I so hope that after the Doctor Who finale we'll get Mickey and Martha in Torchwood!

- Scarecrow

Alex DeLarge

07-08-2008, 09:06 AM

I so hope that after the Doctor Who finale we'll get Mickey and Martha in Torchwood!

- Scarecrow

How could we NOT? :p

Alex DeLarge

07-14-2008, 01:08 PM

Big news! New issue of Torchwood Magazine's revealed the writers/director of the 5 eps! (I don't know if who's writing counts as spoilers or not, but I'll put them in brackets just in case.)

1. Russell T. Davies
2. John Fay
3. James Moran
4. John Fay
5. John Fay

With all 5 episodes directed by Euros Lyn. So it seems the new Chris Chibnall is this John Fay guy. Apparently, he's done some great, TW-esque crime thrillers so I'm intrigued.

Just Jeans

07-21-2008, 03:04 PM

Silva Screen has officially announced the Torchwood soundtrack CD, and you can pre-pre-order it here (http://www.silvascreenmusic.com/ishop/299/torchwood.aspx):

Silva Screen will be releasing the music from the Doctor Who spin-off series Torchwood on September 22nd. This long awaited soundtrack features a wide selection of cues written by Ben Foster and Murray Gold from the series. See the Silva Screen website to register your interest for more information and purchase details for delivery on day of release.

No news on tracks yet. Here's hoping for something soon!
ADDED:
You know, I'm not sure that Martha will be in Torchwood during series 3 -- Chibnall has snagged Freema to star in Law & Order: London. :o

Scarecrow

07-21-2008, 06:50 PM

Sure she could find time to film both, it's not like series 3 is going to be that long!

- Scarecrow

Alex DeLarge

07-21-2008, 11:13 PM

I read somewhere Freema was just going to be making an apperance (the client or whoever) in the first episode of Law and Order, but I don't know how true that is.

Just Jeans

07-22-2008, 06:24 AM

According to this article (http://www.people.co.uk/showbiz/showbiz/tm_method=full%26objectID=20641437%26siteID=93463-name_page.html), Freema is playing the lead prosecutor on the show, which would put her in every episode (the equivalent of Diane Neal's character in SVU, I guess). Dunno how true it is, but if she and Chibnall got on well, I wouldn't be surprised if he cast her as a lead.

Alex DeLarge

07-22-2008, 04:53 PM

Hmmm, if that's the case, well glad she's getting more starring roles! But surely they wouldn't have ended JE in that way with Jack specifically saying, "Maybe there's something else you could be doing..." if not for her on Torchwood? Unless he was referring to that something else as being a lawyer.:p

Just Jeans

07-23-2008, 04:12 AM

Presumably, that scene was written (and possibly filmed) well in advance of Chibnall swanning in and snagging her.

On the WHO forum, there's rumors going that Mickey and Martha are mentioned in the first episode of series 3, but don't appear. So who knows.

Scarecrow

07-23-2008, 02:30 PM

We can but wait and see really! I still miss Tosh :(

- Scarecrow

Alex DeLarge

07-23-2008, 07:03 PM

Except for those rumors, I just don't see why he would have ended that way, personally, if he hadn't had Freema snagged. RTD is a very smart and resourceful guy. I just doubt he'd write such an obvious ending if he "assumed" Martha was going to be in it and then she went to L&O. If he wasn't 100% sure, with blood contracts, that Martha'd appear, I'd doubt he'd do it like that. Mickey, I will admit, is more vague. But Jack specifically says "Maybe there's something else you could be doing!" I really don't think RTD would take that big of a risk to assume he'd get Freema and then Chibnall snatch her before he finished planning what he had planned.

Just Jeans

07-24-2008, 12:08 AM

Well Chibnall certainly slipped out from underneath them with very little warning, and I can't imagine Freema would turn down a staring role over on Law & Order to play a supporting role in Torchwood. On a professional level, it makes sense for her to go where she's getting more screen time.

Speaking of RTD, apart from writing the first episode, what is his association with series 3? I'm not sure. I'm guessing he's not head writer (I reckon John Fay is the new head writer based on the number of episodes he's doing, but that's just speculation) but is he the Executive Producer this time around?

Scarecrow

07-24-2008, 03:23 PM

As Executive Producer before he wasn't as involved as he was in Doctor WHo, so I cna imagine he'd maintain the title, at leats for the mini-series, as it shanded over to the new Producer and new showrunner.

- Scarecrow

Alex DeLarge

07-24-2008, 07:12 PM

Well Chibnall certainly slipped out from underneath them with very little warning, and I can't imagine Freema would turn down a staring role over on Law & Order to play a supporting role in Torchwood. On a professional level, it makes sense for her to go where she's getting more screen time.

Oh, I understand that, I just think RTD wouldn't have written that scene that way if she wasn't 110% secured, in blood contracts, for Series 3. That'd be too risky of him.

Scarecrow

07-25-2008, 08:35 AM

Sorry Alex, the BBC stopped using blood in their contracts when Michael Grade left.

- Scarecrow

Just Jeans

07-26-2008, 04:39 AM

TORCHWOOD ORIGINAL TV SOUNDTRACK

Track List:

1. Everything Changes
2. The Chase
3. Ghosts
4. Sleepers Awake
5. Toshiko & Tommy
6. Into the Hub
7. The Mission
8. Gray's Theme
9. Jack's Love Theme
10. Another Day, Another Death
11. Look Right then Leave
12. Welcome to Planet Earth
13. The Plot
14. Out of Time
15. The Death of Owen Harper
16. King of the Weevils
17. Owen Fights Death
18. The Woman on the Roof
19. Owen's Theme
20. Pearl & the Ghostmaker
21. (I can't read it well, but it looks like "Play Molm Island")
22. A Boy called Jonah
23. Toshiko Sato - Betrayal and Redemption
24. Gwen & Rhys
25. Jack joins Torchwood
26. Captain Jack's Theme
27. I Believe in Him
28. Memories of Gray
29. Goodbyes
30. Death of Toshiko
31. The End is where We Start From
32. Torchwood Theme

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Alex DeLarge

07-26-2008, 05:37 AM

Hope one from them is the Captain John guitar theme!

Just Jeans

07-26-2008, 07:32 AM

I don't think it will be. None of the titles suggest music from Kiss Kiss Bang Bang is on the disc. Apart from Everything Changes and Torchwood Theme, I think most of the rest is written by Ben Foster. Some of the stuff from the finale of series two might be written by Murray though, as he collaborated with Ben on that episode (as well as the series 2 premiere).
ADDED:
According to The Sun (http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/article1467855.ece), Freema did indeed bail on Torchwood late in the day for a starring role in Law & Order.

FUMING Torchwood bosses have been forced to tear up scripts for the show after star Freema Agyeman defected to ITV.

Scriptwriters spent months writing gripping storylines for Freema, 29 — who was a central character in the spin-off show.

But now the former Doctor Who star has been ditched from the five-part BBC mini-series — after agreeing to do ITV’s new British version of US crime series Law and Order.

The move is believed to have annoyed Torchwood creator and executive producer Russell T Davies.

It was him who gave Freema her big break in Doctor Who, playing scientist Martha Jones.

An insider said: “This has really mucked things about. We’ve had to go back and re-edit loads of scripts because she’s not going to be in it.”

The source added that the fact she signed for ITV added insult to injury.

They added: “They’re the Beeb’s bitter rival, so the fact she’s going over there to star in a big new project has not gone down well at all.”

The BBC said in an official statement: “As with any drama in the early stages of production, scripts evolve and change on a daily basis before being finalised.”

Freema — who was plucked from obscurity to be Doctor Who’s assistant in series three — is expected to play a prosecutor in Law and Order: London.

ITV bosses have high hopes for the adaptation of the Five hit — breaking with tradition to order a long run of about a dozen episodes.

They will start filming the show in the autumn with an “enormous cast”.

I'm cautious to swallow this hook, line and sinker -- it is The Sun after all -- but I reckon there's at least a seed of truth in there. Has anyone seen the official BBC statement that the article quotes?

Someone else on TDWF also made a good point -- RTD was supposed to be at Comic Con this year, but at the last minute he had to pull out. The given reason was that he was back in Cardiff "slaving away on Torchwood season 3 scripts." Could be he was working Martha out of the plot.