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Wheatjedi
07-15-2007, 07:45 AM
I'm starting this thread to remind everyone to go see Hatchet on September 7.
Now someone go start one for Trick 'r Treat.... :)
Gringo Loco
07-15-2007, 08:13 AM
I hope I get a chance to see this. It sounds promising.
On topic of Trick 'r Treat, I heard today that it got pushed back to 2008? Have you heard about that?
Wheatjedi
07-15-2007, 08:18 AM
I thought Trick 'r Treat had been pushed back by only two weeks. If that's true about the 2008 thing.... that just sucks.
Joshg
07-16-2007, 03:47 AM
I saw the article in Rue Morgue about this. (Man, I'm really getting into horror..I'm an addict! :() Tribute to 80s slashers. I hope to god so. If they exclude CGI, I will be even more thrilled. But like that'll happen. Top Horrors I'm interested in seeing from July-Dec 2007:
-I know Who Killed Me
-All the Boys Love Mandy Lane
-Halloween 2007
-Hatchet
-Saw IV
More into Mandy Lane and Hatchet, but crossing fingers for them all being good! :) I wonder what others I'm missing.
hack slash
07-16-2007, 04:22 AM
I thought Trick 'r Treat had been pushed back by only two weeks. If that's true about the 2008 thing.... that just sucks.
http://shocktillyoudrop.com/films.php?id=565
Trick 'r Treat
Release Date: TBA 2008
Studio: Warner Bros.
Director: Michael Dougherty
Screenwriter: Michael Dougherty
Starring: Quinn Lord, Brian Cox, Leslie Bibb, Dylan Baker, Rochelle Aytes, Anna Paquin, Moneca Delain, Lauren Lee Smith,
Genre: Horror
MPAA Rating: Not Available
Official Website: MySpace Page
Review: Not Available
DVD Review: Not Available
DVD: Not Available
Movie Poster: Not Available
Production Stills: Not Available
Plot Summary: It is said that Halloween is the night when the dead rise to walk among us and other unspeakable things roam free. The rituals of All Hallows Eve were devised to protect us from their evil mischief, and one small town is about to be taught a terrifying lesson that some traditions are best not forgotten. Nothing is what it seems when a suburban couple learns the dangers of blowing out a Jack-o-Lantern before midnight; four women cross paths with a costumed stalker at a local festival; a group of pranksters goes too far and discovers the horrifying truth buried in a local legend; and a cantankerous old hermit is visited by a strange trick-or-treater with a few bones to pick. Costumes and candy, ghouls and goblins, monsters and mayhem... the tricks and treats of Halloween turn deadly as strange creatures of every variety—human and otherwise—try to survive the scariest night of the year.
Wheatjedi
07-16-2007, 05:41 AM
Dang it all!!! I did some poking around, and Trick 'r Treat really has been pushed back to 2008. I wonder why....
I'm really excited about this movie. Hopefully it doesn't disappoint.
Wheatjedi
07-16-2007, 09:40 AM
From what I've already seen of the film, it won't disappoint.
Gringo Loco
07-16-2007, 01:43 PM
Hey Hack Slash, I'm gonna copy your post so I can make a new thread about Trick r Treat, if you don't mind.
hack slash
07-16-2007, 03:21 PM
Hey Hack Slash, I'm gonna copy your post so I can make a new thread about Trick r Treat, if you don't mind.
that's fine. I was going to but I took the kids to Walmart and forgot
girlychaos
07-18-2007, 05:46 AM
I'm really looking forward to seeing this one! It should be great!
kramerfan
07-18-2007, 01:28 PM
I so cant wait for this one.
The teaser trailer on Behind The Mask got me pumped up for this flick.
Gringo Loco
07-19-2007, 10:48 PM
The teaser trailer on Behind The Mask got me pumped up for this flick.
I agree. My only gripe was it was a strict teaser and not a full trailer. But still got me going.
jasonisking
08-01-2007, 01:11 AM
im surprised with it opening in september we havent got a full trailer yet.but yeah i think this will be the best of the year of corse rz halloween will make alot more cash but i think hatchet will be scarier.
hack slash
08-03-2007, 05:19 PM
for all you fans in th U.K.
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U.K. Hatchet Event Announcement
Source: Ryan RottenAugust 3, 2007
Our friends across the pond at The Works have a special Hatchet announcement for all of you U.K. ShockTillYouDrop.com readers. Read on...
Do you live in the U.K.? Are you a rabid Victor Crowley fan? Well how about this...
On Tuesday August 28th, THE WORKS is going to hold a private theatrical screening of HATCHET for an intimate group of the most die-hard horror fans in London's West End. Writer/Director Adam Green will be hosting both the screening and the after party as a special treat for this elite group of people who have what it takes to gain admittance.
So how do you get on the list?
Well, this event is going to be very intimate so only a few of you will actually be able to get picked. After years of touring the major world festivals, sold out theaters, and conventions...Adam has asked to keep this one ultra private so he can spend personal one-on-one time with the fans, take them out for drinks, and make this night truly special.
But YOU can get on his list!
All you have to do is send a letter to info@ariescope.com explaining why YOU deserve to be there more than anyone else. BE CREATIVE! Send pictures that show your love for Victor Crowley and old school horror, write a song, decorate your flat, wear your Hatchet Army shirt somewhere crazy and get a photo of it...show how much you love horror! LESS THAN 20 FANS WILL BE PERSONALLY HAND PICKED BY ADAM GREEN - so make your submission stand out! Make it unforgettable!
Now here are the rules....
1. Do not submit anything here. All submissions must be made electronically through info@ariescope.com. Submissions here will be deleted.
2. DO NOT DO ANYTHING ILLEGAL OR ANYTHING THAT MAY CAUSE YOU OR ANYONE ELSE HARM. (For instance, don't mangle your little sister's face with a belt sander to show how crazy you are.) Pain, real gore, self mutilation...these are all ways to get instantly disqualified. Make Adam WANT to meet you- not want to run away from you!
3. Do NOT pester Adam personally through his fan mail or MySpace. It won't help your chances. If you're someone who is a regular corresponder with Adam or an actual U.K. friend...it's not going to help your chances. This is all going to be based on the passion and creativity in your letters.
4. Admittance can NOT be bought. Don't even try it.
5. Each fan admitted will be awarded 2 TICKETS into the screening and after party. The exact locations of which will only be revealed to the winners.
6. Your submissions will NOT be publicized without us asking for your permission first. So do not fear. They are going straight into an account for Adam to see and read through.
7. YOU MUST BE 18 YEARS OLD OR OLDER TO APPLY AND IF SELECTED, YOU MUST BE OF LEGAL AGE TO GET INTO THE AFTER PARTY.
8. Provide a link to your MySpace page as we will be checking to see that you have HATCHET listed in your TOP FRIENDS. If it isn't...well you're really not THAT big of a fan, are you?
Now, what are you waiting for?? Time is of the essence! Do you want to have your own private HATCHET party and see the film a MONTH before it opens or not? Stop reading this blog and get to work! Once the theater is full...the contest is over.
- TEAM HATCHET & THE WORKS
There you have it. Good luck to those who enter and for all of you U.S. slasher fiends eager to see Hatchet will not have to wait much longer, the film hits theaters on September 7th!
so this is actually getting a theatrical release?
sCabbOy
08-11-2007, 11:16 PM
so this is actually getting a theatrical release?
Yep!
Hopefully it isn't too limited as I hear it is going to have about the same run as Haute Tension did.
hack slash
08-11-2007, 11:50 PM
theaters near me have shown no trailers the only posters I have seen are on the internet.
they shoulda just put it out on DVD so it would make money. I think a limited theatrical run is pointless, I mean if this movie is actually as good as I've heard then they should go nationwide with it
sCabbOy
08-12-2007, 03:44 PM
It is pointless since it costs a lot of money to advertise and make prints for the theater. A limited theater run will only delay the DVD release.
What if the limited run does well? They will open it up nationwide in more theaters. Grrr...
CosmoBubba
08-12-2007, 06:07 PM
I'm just afraid that a limited theatrical run for Hatchet would probably end up being like the theatrical run that Behind The Mask got. It'll play in a dozen theaters in New York City and Los Angeles for three weeks with little to no promotion at all, make maybe 500,000 bucks if they're lucky, and everyone who wants to see it will have to wait another six months for the DVD release.
Wheatjedi
08-12-2007, 06:33 PM
^^^ That scenario would, indeed, suck. I really hope that isn't what happens.
mjollner
08-15-2007, 11:41 AM
New trailer is... up.
http://www.hatchetmovie.com/trailer.htm
Click the one named trailer 2. Don't know when that came into being. Looks awesome though.
I'm getting pretty stoked to see this movie. I don't think I've heard one bad thing about it, plus it has Tony Todd, Robert Englund, and Kane Hodder.
eXile
08-15-2007, 11:52 PM
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I think it's only getting a limited release anyway. It should, however, fare well once it's released on dvd.
Gringo Loco
08-16-2007, 01:16 AM
Anchor Bay is distributing this right? OMG... It will be on blu-ray omg....
yep good old anchor bay...er..starz? whatever they're calling themselves nowadays. They are a true asset to new and old horror flicks.
I just hope it's playing relatively close to me.
eXile
08-16-2007, 11:47 PM
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I really dig how they're trying to keep Victor Crowley's face hidden. It's soo old-school.
mjollner
08-17-2007, 12:51 AM
I don't think that's the way it'll be in the movie though.
I heard Adam saying you get a good look at him the first time he's on screen.
Even though the quality of that trailer was low. It still looks awesome. Can't wait much longer. Not gonna have to either. =)
I hope they keep his face hidden for a little bit of the film as an homage to some of the great slashers of the 80's.
Joshg
08-18-2007, 07:09 PM
That's be awesome Peter!
They better do that! Or I'll cry. :(
Old school is what it's meant to be. So, let's have more elements! :)
El Rooto
08-18-2007, 11:28 PM
Well, considering you can see his noggin in the trailer...
Vlgsiix43KU
But you really don't get a good look at his face in that trailer.
mjollner
08-20-2007, 03:11 PM
I'm with you peter. I'm hoping they keep him cloaked in shadows and motion blur until the end.
Spade
08-22-2007, 12:09 PM
I can't wait to see this movie.
kramerfan
08-22-2007, 04:30 PM
Me also.This will be the best slasher in years!!!
mjollner
08-22-2007, 09:16 PM
It bothers me that the 'Halloween remake thread' is so busy compared to this one. I know he's remaking "The Slasher" but I still hate the fact that his sucky remake generates more buzz than this one does.
Remake or something new? I'm with Adam Green. I'll go for something new anyday. Unless 'something new' is made by Rob Zombie, ofcourse. :p
hack slash
08-22-2007, 10:24 PM
But you really don't get a good look at his face in that trailer.
I think you see his face just fine in the trailer and he looks like the guys from Wrong Turn
El Rooto
08-22-2007, 11:59 PM
It's still hard to believe that young Victor Crowley is played by a woman.
I think you see his face just fine in the trailer and he looks like the guys from Wrong Turn
Funny, I was thinking of that too. He does look like one of them.
And like Spade, I can't wait to see this film too. I don't think it will be successful with lack of promotion lately. If they do sequels, it might be on DVD instead of theater. But who know?
In the movie you do get a few good looks at him - but overall its pretty dark. I'm sure if they showed a picture of him in the daylight, there'd be a huge difference!
Jere
hack slash
08-23-2007, 04:20 PM
In the movie you do get a few good looks at him - but overall its pretty dark. I'm sure if they showed a picture of him in the daylight, there'd be a huge difference!
Jere
he probably looks like the bastard offspring of the Hill people/The imbred Hillbillies and Jason without the mask oh wait they all look pretty much the same don't they:p
sCabbOy
08-25-2007, 12:31 AM
DeadPit.com quoted the head of Anchor Bay stating this movie will only have 20 theatrical prints. Doesn't sound like a big release. :(
I always knew the wrong company got this film. Damn you Lionsgate, this was your type of film to release. I guess See No Evil's underwhelming box office killed any chance of them picking this up.
Damn. I hope it plays in Philly.
MaDMaNMaRz
08-25-2007, 04:06 AM
DeadPit.com quoted the head of Anchor Bay stating this movie will only have 20 theatrical prints. Doesn't sound like a big release. :(
I imagine they'd show it in the big cities......Chicago, NYC, LA, etc. I'm REALLY close to Chicago, so hopefully they show it there.
Joshg
08-25-2007, 03:09 PM
America doesn't help me. There has to be some in Canada. :( There has to be! And by Canada, I mean east coast preferably. :P Gaaah! Halifax!!!
CosmoBubba
08-25-2007, 05:11 PM
Geez, if the theatrical release is going to be THAT limited, why not just say to hell with it and release it direct to video? As sad as it is, those shitty After Dark movies got bigger releases than what Hatchet is getting.
sCabbOy
08-25-2007, 07:46 PM
I believe 20 prints = 1 or 2 markets. NYC, LA and maybe somewhere else like Chicago.
Maybe they will rotate the prints and maybe it's a false rumor. But, 20 prints... that's like Buffalo NY since we have like 12 theaters in the Western, NY area. Who knows, maybe it was misquoted and it's 200 prints. That's still really small.
I still fault all of the producers behind Hatchet. It's not bad to want the most money for your product, but it seemed like they just held out until the best possible deal came and now a lot of people are disinterested.
If this hits theaters on a micro market, then we will have to wait even longer for a DVD release.
ADDED:
Here's the official theater list:
Closest one to me is 400 miles away.
Austin
Alamo Drafthouse South Lamar
AMC Barton Creek 14
Baltimore
Muvico Egyptian 24
AMC White Marsh 16
AMC Owings Mills 17
Boston
AMC Boston Commons 19
National Amusements Showcase Revere 20
CFC Entertainment Cinemas Fresh Pond 10
Chicago
AMC Crestwood 18
AMC River East 21
AMC Ford City 14
AMC Barrington 30
AMC Streets of Woodfield 20
AMC Cantara 30
AMC Country Club 16
Marcus Gurnee 20
Marcus Addison 20
Detroit
AMC Fairlane 21
AMC Southfield 24
AMC Great Lakes 25
AMC Forum 30 with IMAX
El Paso
Carmike El Paso 16
Harlingen/Brownsville
Carmike 20 EdinburgTX
Houston
AMC Gulf Pointe 30
AMC Studio Houston 30
AMC Deerbrook 24
AMC Willowbrook 24
Las Vegas
Brenden Palms Casino
Memphis
Malco Majestic 20
Malco Towne 16
Muvico Peabody
New Orleans
AMC Palace 20
AMC Palace 16
New York
AMC Empire 25
Norfolk/Newport News
AMC Lynnhaven 18
AMC Hampton Towne Center 24
Phoenix
AMC Mesa Grande 24
AMC Deer Valley 30
AMC Westgate 20
AMC Ahwatukee 24
Harkin Arizona Mills 24
Providence
National Amusements Providence Place 16
National Amusements Showcase Warwick Mall
National Amusements Showcase Seekonk
CFC Cinema World Lincoln Mall 16
Sacramento / Stockton / Modesto
Brenden Modesto 18
San Antonio
AMC Hueber Oaks 24
Santikos Palladium 18 and IMAX
Santikos Mayan Palace
Santikos Silverado 16
San Diego
AMC Palm Promenade 24
AMC Mission Valley 20
El Rooto
08-25-2007, 07:55 PM
Aw, shit! I should have known! Nowhere to be found around this neck of the woods!
I have to drive like two and a half hours to go to New York to see it. I might just wait for the DVD at this point.
CosmoBubba
08-25-2007, 08:52 PM
I have to drive like two and a half hours to go to New York to see it. I might just wait for the DVD at this point.
I know what you mean. Being from Kentucky, my only choices are to wait for the DVD or drive to Chicago or Memphis. And I'm not driving an eight-hour round trip to see a movie, no matter what it is.
eXile
08-25-2007, 08:53 PM
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El Rooto
08-25-2007, 08:58 PM
I wasn't expecting it to be playing at every theater around, but this is absurd.
Maybe it'll do well enough to expand later.
Or am I kidding myself?
sCabbOy
08-25-2007, 09:13 PM
It said more theaters may be added later. I'm pretty sure that's after a week or two run. But it hinted that they'll probably be on the west coast (LA).
I was hoping a TRUE theatrical run for this film. Otherwise it may have just been released to artsy and idie theaters. Without a lot of advertising the movie's not going to do that well. I don't see a short run like this getting a lot of press.
I always knew the wrong company got this film. Damn you Lionsgate, this was your type of film to release. I guess See No Evil's underwhelming box office killed any chance of them picking this up.
I thought Anchor Bay is the company heading Hatchet, not Lionsgate. :p
And I think they may release more of 'em in theater later on after Sept 7th. Perhaps they want to see how movie goer react to it in limited release first before releasing more of it in almost all states. I know some do that.
MaDMaNMaRz
08-25-2007, 11:42 PM
scab - Thanks for posting that list. :)
Looks like i'm in luck! The AMC Cantara 30 is actually pretty close to me....it's only about a 25 minute drive. :)
El Rooto
08-26-2007, 03:21 AM
I thought Anchor Bay is the company heading Hatchet, not Lionsgate. :p
No, no, he was cursing them for not picking it up. He even said in his post they should have picked it up.
AMC Deerbrook 24 Houston
Right down the street from my house, I'm in!
If they were going to get this limited of a theatrical run, they might as well have left it as NC-17 and not bothered cutting everything out.
mjollner
09-02-2007, 05:12 AM
ONE week left people. Will you be there?
There are some new clips and kills(spoilers) over at hatchetarmy.com. All you have to do is enlist.
Scarecrow
09-02-2007, 08:18 AM
Unless this does really well I doubt the UK will ever see it... :(
- Scarecrow
ONE week left people. Will you be there?
Absolutely... If they add a theatre anywhere near me...
I made it to the limited releases of Feast, The Tripper, Behind the Mask, I better be able to see Hatchet. :meh:
DRE, can you give the link to what states & towns the movie will be held at? I need to see where the closest one to me is at.
CosmoBubba
09-02-2007, 06:33 PM
Will you be there?
No. I'm waiting for the DVD release.
I'd see it if it were playing anywhere close to me, sure. But I feel a little burned that they hyped the shit out of it, then took forever to settle on a distribution deal that really fucks over anybody that doesn't live within a respectable driving distance of a major metropolitan area.
El Diablo
09-03-2007, 08:46 AM
Of all the horror films that have been released over the last few months I'd say this one deserved the biggest promotional push from any studio. I saw it last year and I thought it was a hell of a good time, especially if you're a fan of EVIL DEAD and FRIDAY THE 13th, which is exactly the type of marriage that bests describe this movie (it may sound odd but you'll get it when you see it).
Sketch Sanchez
09-03-2007, 10:38 AM
Hey, maybe with the sucess of Halloween the suits will expand the screens in order to cash in.
Pipe dream?
mjollner
09-03-2007, 11:35 PM
I had a bad dream last night with Victor Crowley starring as the foe(Fucker wouldn't stop chasing me either). Odd considering I haven't seen the movie but then again I never get nightmares from movies. So maybe Crowley's a little scarier in my head than in "real life".
Joshg
09-04-2007, 04:20 AM
As sad as it is, those shitty After Dark movies got bigger releases than what Hatchet is getting.
:( I liked those shitty After Dark movies.
...well, I've only seen Dark Ride, so I guess I can't base the whole series. :D
mjollner
09-04-2007, 10:22 PM
This pissed me off when I first found it but being so cloise to the premiere I feel alitle more comfortable sharing it.
Spoiler (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzSkfOf70Mw)
I know people steal stufflike this all the time but it just annoyed me more knowing how hard Green worked to make this movie happen.
PeterBaker
09-05-2007, 12:11 AM
Aye! Its playing at the theater I used to go to in New Orleans. Shit, im in KY now.. Memphis is the closest damn place.. and im not driving that far!
mjollner
09-05-2007, 01:53 PM
Check your local theatres. Hatchet.com says theatres not on that list has added it since.
Call Your Local Theaters! We're getting word that there are theaters playing HATCHET that aren't on our list yet. Check with your local theaters! Just because it's not on our list- it doesn't mean it's not playing near you!
sCabbOy
09-05-2007, 06:12 PM
I called 3 local places here and none of them even heard of it :(
hack slash
09-05-2007, 08:10 PM
the trailer should say "Coming soon to a theater nowhere near you!!!":D:p:cry:
So, I saw this this weekend. It was good. I really liked it, but unless it's playing near you, don't bother going out of you're way to see it. It's fun, but it's not something that's good enough to drive three hours to see.
CosmoBubba
09-10-2007, 07:33 AM
I had to resort to downloading a bootleg of the movie (one that was DVD quality, no less), and I liked it a lot. It's most certainly an entertaining flick. Nothing I'd drive across state lines to see or anything, but overall, I thought it was pretty entertaining.
simonthekillerewok
09-10-2007, 04:56 PM
It's a shame this film has only taken in an estimated $150, 000 opening weekend which is ok for an independent film but bad for a film that wants to prove a point to Hollywood that the horror audience will support original films. As a result of this box office it's unlikely they will give it a wider release now, which is a f*ckin shame. Ever since I saw this film last year, I've stuck by it loyally because I thought it was not just great but the best slasher film of the decade and it really makes me sad that Anchor Bay didn't distribute it further and into the right places. I hope the box office increases dramatically in the coming weeks via word of mouth because this is the sort of film that needs to be seen in the theater because you can hear people cheer and laugh- it was amazing. Looks like it's main success will be on DVD though.
Anyway here's the list of theaters it's showing in to those who are wondering where it's playing:
Arizona
Esplanade 14 Phoenix, AZ
Metrocenter 12 Theatre Phoenix AZ
Southwest 8 Theatre Phoenix AZ
Harkins Centerpoint 11 in Tempe, AZ
Austin
Alamo Drafthouse South Lamar 6
AMC Barton Creek 14
Baltimore
Muvico Egyptian 24
AMC White Marsh 16
AMC Owings Mills 17
Boston
AMC Boston Commons 19
National Amusements Showcase Revere 20
CFC Entertainment Cinemas Fresh Pond 10
Chicago
AMC Crestwood 18
AMC River East 21
AMC Ford City 14
AMC Barrington 30
AMC Streets of Woodfield 20
AMC Cantara 30
AMC Country Club 16
Marcus Gurnee 20
Marcus Addison 20
Detroit
AMC Fairlane 21
AMC Southfield 20
AMC Great Lakes 25
AMC Forum 30 with IMAX
MJR Southgate 20
MJR Marketplace 20
MJR Ford Wyoming Drive-In Complex
El Paso
Carmike El Paso 16
Harlingen/Brownsville
Carmike 20 EdinburgTX
Cinemark 16
Cinemark Tinseltown, Mission TX
Cinemark 16, Brownsville, TX
Cinemark Hollywood, McAllen TX
Houston
AMC Gulf Pointe 30
AMC Studio Houston 30
AMC Deerbrook 24
AMC Willowbrook 24
Las Vegas
Brenden Palms Casino
Los Angeles
Arclight Hollywood -and on 12:01am midnight screening for Thursday night
Massachusetts
Showcase Cinemas Lowell Lowell MA
Showcase Cinemas Seekonk Seekonk MA
Memphis
Malco Majestic 20
Malco Paradiso Cinema
Malco Towne 16
Muvico Peabody Place 22
Malco Desoto 16 Southaven
Brand Hollywood 20
New Orleans
AMC Elmwood Palace 20
AMC Westbank Palace 16
New York
AMC Empire 25
Norfolk/Newport News
AMC Lynnhaven 18
AMC Hampton Towne Center 24
Phoenix
AMC Ahwatukee 24
AMC Mesa Grande 24
AMC Deer Valley 30
AMC Westgate 20
Harkins Arizona Mills 24
Harkins Gateway Pavilions 18
Harkins Superstition Springs Luxury 25
Providence
National Amusements Providence Place 16
National Amusements Showcase Warwick Mall
National Amusements Showcase Seekonk
CFC Cinema World Lincoln Mall 16
Sacramento / Stockton / Modesto
Brenden Modesto 18
San Antonio
AMC Hueber Oaks 24
Santikos Embassy 14
Santikos Mayan Palace
Santikos Palladium 18 and IMAX
Santikos Silverado 16
San Diego
AMC Mission Valley 20
AMC Palm Promenade 24
Fashion Valley 18
CANADIAN THEATERS
Toronto
Canada Square
Coliseum Scarboro
Colossus
SC Brampton
Square One
Calgary
Spectrum
Country Hills
Vancouver
Granville
SC Qoquitlam
SC Riverport
Colossus Langley
Guilford
Why the hell North Carolina don't have one? I was expecting Charlotte (the largest city in NC, mind you :p) & they don't have one. That is really unfair Charlotte & no other cities don't have one. Now I know why some use bootleg, thought I would never support that. *sigh* :(
sCabbOy
09-10-2007, 07:14 PM
The only point that is being made with this is that an indie director can have his movie bought and out on the big screen. I knew it wouldn't do well. However, I am sure by the time DVD release happens it will do much better.
CosmoBubba
09-10-2007, 08:50 PM
Had Hatchet been given a broader release, maybe 900 to 1000 theaters, it might have had more of an impact at the box office. As it stands right now, I'm not sure if anyone outside of the most diehard horror fans even know the movie exists. And that's a true bummer because it's a really entertaining movie.
And I'm going to agree with what the guys on Deadpit Radio have said: If Lions Gate can release all the random direct-to-video crap they put out, why couldn't they have picked up Hatchet and given it a decent run?
simonthekillerewok
09-11-2007, 03:33 AM
I just heard some great news.... Hatchet is playing in the same theaters NEXT WEEK too because it was successful in certain theaters in New York and Austin and some others. This is very lucky for an independent film. If it is a success next week in those theaters listed then it will get a wider release. It's been given a second chance! I guess it deserves it judging by the positive reactions it has got from everyone.
sCabbOy
09-11-2007, 05:28 PM
Since the closest Hatchet theatrical showing is literally HOURS from me- I had a friend copy me the dvd of the rough cut (so it's called).
I will say the movie is brilliant, but the movie keeps losing it's backwoods feel everything they throw in some cheesy dialog which happened a lot. The movie tried to have a funny 80's cheese factor at times which sort of stole the atmosphere from the movie.
Kane was great as Victor, but his acting as Victor's father was lack luster- sorry. He's still not an amazing dialog actor..
And finally, the kills... some were jsut absolutely NUTS. Like the scene where Victor cuts the person in half by repeated whacks with a hatchet and then proceeds to grab the other person by each side of his mouth and literally tear his head in half..
Well done kills.
Overall... the feel was there and then leaves in some scenes, the gore was great and it's a solid slasher that makes RZ's Halloween look like Blood Cult. The movie wasn't perfect, but damn close.
8.5/10
101ant101
09-11-2007, 05:32 PM
by the way i dunno if this has been said but it comes out in the uk the 5th of october
Hey Scab, if Kane played human Jason in a future film as he did Victor would you agree with it? Just curious.
I haven't seen it by the way, going to see the film this afternoon.
sCabbOy
09-12-2007, 01:44 AM
Yes and no. I liked the Jasons of 2 and 3.... but Victor was fast, and vicious. That was great... but it was a lot like Jason 7.
Back to Hatchet.. I am sure the version I saw was different than the theatrical, but the ending was one of the stupidest endings ever. Im hoping it was cut off.
CosmoBubba
09-12-2007, 02:32 AM
I am sure the version I saw was different than the theatrical, but the ending was one of the stupidest endings ever. Im hoping it was cut off.
Was the ending you saw have Victor use the guy's disembodied arm to yank the girl out of the river, followed by him growling and her screaming, then cut to black/roll credits? That's what I saw, and that's the only part that didn't sit well with me. The fake-out with the arm was neat, but it just seemed trunicated.
I liked the ending. I liked the abruptness.
sCabbOy
09-12-2007, 03:03 AM
Was the ending you saw have Victor use the guy's disembodied arm to yank the girl out of the river, followed by him growling and her screaming, then cut to black/roll credits? That's what I saw, and that's the only part that didn't sit well with me. The fake-out with the arm was neat, but it just seemed trunicated.
I agree. It was not an ending for me... it would have been better if he was dead, and it shows the girl die.
it jsut seemed incomplete.
It didn't really need to show it, I don't think. You know what's going to happen whether they show all the gory details or not, so what's the point?
sCabbOy
09-12-2007, 04:25 AM
you're right, but it's jsut the way it left it off. The movie exploited gore throughout to the point that it was cheesy... why stop? haha.
Well, I saw it. I can see why Lionsgate or any other major picked it up, it was far too DTV feeling for the big screen. I loved Victor Crowley as played by Hodder, and the gore was top notch but I hated the cheap music and it sometimes poked a bit too much fun.
I feel that Hatchet is a film that would have been better served if it had the backing of a major studio or major indie from the beginning, the concept is there but it just didn't hit as high as I hoped.
hack slash
09-12-2007, 05:15 PM
Watched Hatchet last night, it was OK, better than some of the stuff that's come out lately, I agree with DRE it just felt very DTV, some of the gore was WAY over done, Kane Hodder still can't act, he was cool as Crowley but all he had to do was run around and rip people apart, exept when he was Victor's father and his facial expressions were non existant he had the same facial expression on his face when he was feeding Victor as he did when he whacked him in the face with the hatchet
but it was a fun movie to watch McNabb's boobs are nice :D
I'd give it about a 6.5 or 7/10
sCabbOy
09-12-2007, 05:48 PM
I remember Adam Green marveling over Kane's acting in the crying scene. I was waiting for the acting, although I thought Kane did so well int he movie, but nothing better than he has always done.
I watched this again with friends last night, and the blood in some parts was badly done. It sprayed like an aerosol out of the next... like a mist. .
The second time around I rate this movie a little lowe, but it was still fun.
hack slash
09-12-2007, 06:01 PM
I watched this again with friends last night, and the blood in some parts was badly done. It sprayed like an aerosol out of the next... like a mist. .
kinda like it was coming out of a busted air hose in parts like when the old lady got her head ripped in half or when the fake Bayou Bunnies guy got his head turned around
simonthekillerewok
09-12-2007, 06:04 PM
who cares about it hosing out, it's more fun that way. This film is not meant to be incredibly realistic and that's what makes it better then Hostel or Saw
hack slash
09-12-2007, 06:45 PM
who cares about it hosing out, it's more fun that way. This film is not meant to be incredibly realistic and that's what makes it better then Hostel or Saw
I didn't say anybody cares it was just a little to over the top on EVERY kill except for the belt sander and IMO Saw is a better movie than Hatchet
sCabbOy
09-12-2007, 07:15 PM
who cares about it hosing out, it's more fun that way. This film is not meant to be incredibly realistic and that's what makes it better then Hostel or Saw
It's more of a mist that evaporates... looks like someone squirting windex.
The movie wasnt close to realistic and yes it was fun. I do think it would have been more powerful if done realistic.
simonthekillerewok
09-12-2007, 11:53 PM
I didn't say anybody cares it was just a little to over the top on EVERY kill except for the belt sander and IMO Saw is a better movie than Hatchet
In your opinion
mjollner
09-13-2007, 06:43 PM
I'm sorry Hack. It's nothing personal but you liking the new Halloween movie completely invalidates your opinion in my eyes.
That fact completely eradicates any thought of you and I having a common taste in movies. Pity...
And why would you evern compare the original saw to this? The two have very little in common. The saw-sequels and Hostel are both torture films while this is not. Completely different genres imo. If you walk into a comedy and expect a drama then you're likely to be disappointed. Very much like if you walk into a movie titled "Halloween" expecting a remake of said movie and instead get Zombie's "Reinvention" which is another kind of movie alltogether.
On a lighter note. I'm seeing this tonight! :)
I've been following this since before it even began shooting. I don't expect I'll be blown away. I do however expect to see the best slasher movie ever made(But that's not saying alot).
hack slash
09-13-2007, 07:22 PM
The only reason I mentioned SAW
who cares about it hosing out, it's more fun that way. This film is not meant to be incredibly realistic and that's what makes it better then Hostel or Saw
I don't care if you agree with my opinion or not on Halloween I thought it was good and different from the original.
and Hatchet is an OK slasher film, but it's not the great film that people like Harry Knowles and such want to think it is(IMO) I'm glad I didn't see this in theaters because I would have been disappointed
and that's my opinion if you don't like it I don't really care
simonthekillerewok
09-14-2007, 04:12 PM
I completely disagree, I thought the film had a lot of theatricality to it because I saw it in the theater last year in a film festival and the audience reacts like crazy to it -laughing at the intentional jokes, cheering at the inventive kills and screaming at the jumps and this is why it is good that it's not straight to DVD. Also Hatchet does successfully build up tension, suspense and scares unlike Rob Zombie's Halloween which in my opinion should have gone straight to video -I heard reports of people walking out of the theater. And sure Rob's Halloween is different, but it's too different to the extent that it's sticking Michael Myers into and exploitation kind of film which doesn't work because Michael is more phantom like, not a gritty killer like Leatherface. It's like he wants us to accept for example that Dracula sucks urine instead of blood and turns green when he's angry. He screwed too much with the Michael character to the extent that it was a mess that failed to scare anyone.- this is my opinion.
Nothing will change my mind in thinking that Victor Crowley is a much scarier and a more interesting killer then Rob Zombie's version of Michael.
By the way the reason I brought RZ's Halloween into this conversation is because you were trashing the vulnerable Hatchet so much- a great independent film that is struggling at the moment because of lack of advertising and lack of wide release so I think it deserves fan support rather then Rob Zombie's Halloween that unjustly made 44 million over name recognition.
hack slash
09-14-2007, 04:47 PM
By the way the reason I brought RZ's Halloween into this conversation is because you were trashing the vulnerable Hatchet so much- a great independent film that is struggling at the moment because of lack of advertising and lack of wide release so I think it deserves fan support rather then Rob Zombie's Halloween that unjustly made 44 million over name recognition.
How was I bashing it? I stated my opinion, I thought it was OK, and a little to over the top. That's bashing? OK:side:. IMO Halloween is much better than Hatchet, and Michael is ALOT scarier than Crowley(who looked just like the people from Hills have Eyes and Wrong Turn) and if you have a problem with that...I'm so sorry
sCabbOy
09-14-2007, 05:16 PM
Regardless who cares if anyone bashes any movie? Some of the best movies of all time get bashed... that's why God gave us our own independent brain- to think for ourselves.
I thought Hatchet was better, but Hatchet should have been DTV it had a very generic feel to it, which I liked.
simonthekillerewok
09-14-2007, 05:51 PM
Regardless who cares if anyone bashes any movie? Some of the best movies of all time get bashed... that's why God gave us our own independent brain- to think for ourselves.
I thought Hatchet was better, but Hatchet should have been DTV it had a very generic feel to it, which I liked.
I wasn't saying that he wasn't entitled to his opinion, it's just that I was saying that I disagreed with his
I just watched it and thought it was great fun.
It was pretty over the top in most respects but it fit well with the feel of the movie.
Buckets of blood. It literally looked like someone was tossing blood from a bucket in some scenes. The kills were brutal.
Victor Crowley would have fit in well during the 80s, a lot like Jason. Kane does his thing well as the monster but I agree with everyone who says the guy still can't act.
Where was this amazing crying scene?
Mercedes McNab has nice boobs.
sCabbOy
09-16-2007, 12:26 AM
Victor Crowley reminded me of Madman in the sense that he looked so damn stupid (make up wise) that it worked... it was so corny when it first showed him.
Joshg
09-16-2007, 02:52 AM
He reminded me of the two killers in Hell Night.
Hatchet (2007)
Well, it wasn't amazing, but certainly better than most horror films of today, including the dreadful Hostel, Halloween remake (among the many others), and so forth. Some shots were superb! Others were no different than by today's standards. The kills were brutal, and fun, and although there were some annoying characters, I felt a likeability for quite a few. The background story was done great! And I think the most nostalgiac parts of the film were:
a. The Halloween Night scene, with the clown, skeleton, and pig.
b. The close-up of the raised hatchet.
c. The cruel ending.
Best slasher film in 20 years? Probably not! At all! But does it compete for top 50 of the past 20 years? Somehow, I believe so. Music pissed me off, as did the cell reference. The video camera I didn't mind. When it looks through the POV of the film, it reminded me of Jason Takes Manhattan. I'm glad that they didn't look through the camera for a death or anything, like they have previously. Anyways, I'd rank Hatchet along with the other good horror/tribute films of today, such as House of Wax '05, Dark Ride, and Grindhouse.
7.5/10
101ant101
09-16-2007, 08:21 AM
I didn't say anybody cares it was just a little to over the top on EVERY kill except for the belt sander and IMO Saw is a better movie than Hatchet
saw was more over the top than any movie. look at the kills in saw. soem very unbeliveable.
hatchet was a good film. good gore,good acting,and a nice killer. but i doubt this will bring back the slasher wave like scream did in the 90's
CosmoBubba
09-16-2007, 07:37 PM
saw was more over the top than any movie. look at the kills in saw. soem very unbeliveable.
Yeah, but didn't Hatchet have Victor Crowley grabbing someone's upper and lower jaws and ripping their head in half? That's pretty unbelievable. And wasn't one of the traps in the first Saw set up to do the exact same thing to Shawnee Smith?
I don't get why people are making the Saw to Hatchet comparison.
They are both the same genre but Saw was supposed to be taken seriously and Hatchet was supposed to be a fun popcorn movie.
Jigsaw
09-17-2007, 06:38 AM
And wasn't one of the traps in the first Saw set up to do the exact same thing to Shawnee Smith?
Yes, but she unlocked it and got it off in time before it could kill her.
This movie isn't playing in any Las Vegas theaters it seems :( I'll just have to wait for it to hit DVD or cable when it eventually does.
mjollner
09-17-2007, 08:16 AM
I thought Adam did a good job for a first feature. Sadly, I got the feeling that Adam was wrong. Maybe slashers are dead because, well, they just aren't that much fun anymore. Maybe the world outgrew them. That was atleast the feeling I got while watching this. It was too slow and too predictable. I wasn't afraid of Victor and I only found myself mildly entertained by the gore(Altough I would much rather have this kind of gore than realism).
If Slashers are to come back, I think they need a way to up the ante quite a bit. I want to fear the killer.
The music in this movie ruined it whenever it was present.
Slashers are dumb, they need to be smarter if they're ever going to be a hit again.
Thumbs up for the effort though.
101ant101
09-17-2007, 05:11 PM
Yeah, but didn't Hatchet have Victor Crowley grabbing someone's upper and lower jaws and ripping their head in half? That's pretty unbelievable. And wasn't one of the traps in the first Saw set up to do the exact same thing to Shawnee Smith?
how was that over the top that was very believable IMO saw is onlt good for blood splatterIMO
sCabbOy
09-17-2007, 06:54 PM
I dunno.
I thought Hatchet was fun, but it definitely did not have that 80's feeling. IMO not many movies these days I think Malevolence captured it well as did House Of Wax remake. Hatchet was jsut too.... unserious. I went in expecting a serious slasher movie, with a bit of humor and cheese and it was he opposite.
Definitely not a serious horror film but damn entertaining.
I wouldn't mind seeing a sequel with a bigger budget and wider release. I think it could be a decent little trilogy.
I think it would definitely have made it's money back and then some in theaters and certainly on video.
101ant101
09-17-2007, 08:56 PM
does anyone no if there was sequel fully announced i liked the way it ended.
sCabbOy
09-17-2007, 09:53 PM
With all respect to Adam, I hope there isn't a sequel.
simonthekillerewok
09-17-2007, 09:59 PM
With all respect to Adam, I hope there isn't a sequel.
I heard that a sequel has been planned and that Adam Green really wants to direct it. I think he may have already written one. But he has said that there's a possibility (as with every sequel) that a different director could be chosen. I think it would be a shame if it was handed to a crap director.
101ant101
09-18-2007, 03:43 PM
I heard that a sequel has been planned and that Adam Green really wants to direct it. I think he may have already written one. But he has said that there's a possibility (as with every sequel) that a different director could be chosen. I think it would be a shame if it was handed to a crap director.
same here hes a good directer. i hope there is another one.:p
sCabbOy
09-18-2007, 05:33 PM
I just think the movie was too goofy to have another one haha. The movie was directed nicely and shot nicely.
It's like a sequel to Don't Go In The Woods... Alone! (which 2 are planned), it will be hard to continue on with the story with how the movie was written and shot.
I see it continuing much like the original Fridays, a group of people accidentally stumble into Crowly's territory.
Short and simple.
Why not? It wouldn't be a bad little DTV series at the very least.
Nothing in this movie was terribly original so I don't think any continuation needs to be too convoluted.
sCabbOy
09-18-2007, 09:43 PM
It's nothing more than a DTV movie. I can't believe Adam held this movie so long thinking it was amazing. I thought it was just a good DTV movie, even though it was a theatrical movie.
It's nothing more than a DTV movie. I can't believe Adam held this movie so long thinking it was amazing. I thought it was just a good DTV movie, even though it was a theatrical movie.
It's not a theatrical movie to me, since it didn't came out at all in my state. :p
simonthekillerewok
09-18-2007, 11:23 PM
It's nothing more than a DTV movie. I can't believe Adam held this movie so long thinking it was amazing. I thought it was just a good DTV movie, even though it was a theatrical movie.
Compared to the utter crap that's come out in the theaters for the past 10 years I don't understand why you think it isn't good enough to be in theaters when it's clearly a better film then the other stuff.
hack slash
09-19-2007, 01:24 AM
If Blair Witch and Jeepers Creepers got a wide release in theaters, then I guess this should have also. It is better than some of the crap over the past 10 yrs or so, such as BW, JC, JC2, Hostel, Seed of Chucky, Boogeyman, Hills 2 besides all those dumbass ghost movies and that's pretty much all I can think of at the moment, but it would be OK as a DTV series
sCabbOy
09-19-2007, 01:32 AM
If it was worthy of the theaters it would have had a bigger release. The movie looked and felt generic (I had no problems with that, loving indie horror). I think ALL movies are worthy of a theater run whether it be Under Tow, Red Skulls, BWP, Jeepers Creepers, Bloody Murder or what have you. It takes time to make and yes, it's a worthwhile labor.
But, I am speaking of a bigger picture. When the average horror movie watcher (15-25) will think the movie is shitty, and it will reflect in the money it makes- it will be an embarrassment. I think Hatchet was fun, but look at the humbers not many people think so.
I think the movie was WAY over hyped and wasn't worth the wait... sue me. I wouldnt compare it to the shit in theaters because that's unfair.
I'm inclined to agree with Scabboy on this one (On the same side of a debate? Unreal ;) )
I just think the film would have benefited with more of a serious tone, a non generic score and no Deon Richmond (That guy can kill a film faster than the credit "A Uwe Boll Film")
Joshg
09-19-2007, 01:46 AM
I agree Scab. I was left dissapointed after all the hype. Man! It was good, like I said, 7.5/10. But for everything that it was supposed to be, it really fell short. Kills were nice, and had some nice shots, but the whole "old school horror is back" thing kind of...didn't lie, but was deceiving.
101ant101
09-19-2007, 08:09 PM
If it was worthy of the theaters it would have had a bigger release. The movie looked and felt generic (I had no problems with that, loving indie horror). I think ALL movies are worthy of a theater run whether it be Under Tow, Red Skulls, BWP, Jeepers Creepers, Bloody Murder or what have you. It takes time to make and yes, it's a worthwhile labor.
But, I am speaking of a bigger picture. When the average horror movie watcher (15-25) will think the movie is shitty, and it will reflect in the money it makes- it will be an embarrassment. I think Hatchet was fun, but look at the humbers not many people think so.
I think the movie was WAY over hyped and wasn't worth the wait... sue me. I wouldnt compare it to the shit in theaters because that's unfair.
i respect your opinoin on that scab. for me it was worth it, but i can see why people say that. and i think it will make good money if it already hasn't.
sCabbOy
09-19-2007, 08:38 PM
i respect your opinoin on that scab. for me it was worth it, but i can see why people say that. and i think it will make good money if it already hasn't.
It really hasnt made a lot of money, im sure it will on DVD.
I just think nowadays movie makers have to be really choosy what they put in theaters. I'm pretty sure a lot of money will be lost with this theater run. It costs a lot of money to make prints, posters and advertising costs. They'd have to make 4-5 million just to start paying back production costs of the movie.
simonthekillerewok
09-19-2007, 09:25 PM
If it was worthy of the theaters it would have had a bigger release. The movie looked and felt generic (I had no problems with that, loving indie horror). I think ALL movies are worthy of a theater run whether it be Under Tow, Red Skulls, BWP, Jeepers Creepers, Bloody Murder or what have you. It takes time to make and yes, it's a worthwhile labor.
But, I am speaking of a bigger picture. When the average horror movie watcher (15-25) will think the movie is shitty, and it will reflect in the money it makes- it will be an embarrassment. I think Hatchet was fun, but look at the humbers not many people think so.
I think the movie was WAY over hyped and wasn't worth the wait... sue me. I wouldnt compare it to the shit in theaters because that's unfair.
Just because the film has not made that much money does not mean it wasn't a good movie and that the average horror fan didn't like it. Most people who I know who have seen it saw it in theaters and thought it was brilliant. I found that the people that downloaded it didn't like it as much this is because it's obviously not going to be as good as an experience as seeing it on a big screen with an audience that reacts well.
Anyway the 2 main reasons why it hasn't made much money is because of the lack of advertising -no TV spots etc. and a lack of wide release in theaters. If a person has not heard of a film, they will not see it. Furthermore if a person has heard of the film through the internet but can't travel to a theater because it's too far away (like the folks at Deadpit radio), they also can't pay to see it. This is obviously Anchor Bay's fault that this has happened, not Adam Green's. And the reason he waited so long for theatrical distribution is because all the other distribution companies were only offering him DTV release but thought that the modern audience only wants to see remakes and sequels in the theater. So this is our fault for paying to see remakes.
By the way if fans DIDN'T hype this movie it would never have had the chance to be in theaters in the first place because Anchor Bay was the only distributor who understood the fan support and were willing to give it a chance in theaters. So I don't see hype as a bad thing especially when it's for a good independent film. I also believe that Hatchet's lack of success was because the horror community (particularly the younger fans) were extremely distracted by the Halloween remake and guess what, they HYPED that film much more. And also the public after seeing one sh*tty horror film probably thought Hatchet was just as bad.
hack slash
09-19-2007, 09:41 PM
sorry but putting it on only 70 screens is hardly giving it a chance in theaters, other companies only offering DTV deals realized that it would only make money that way, because the movie looks and feels DTV. I know people that have seen Halloween in theaters 2 or 3 times and only watched Hatchet once because like they said it was OK, nothing special
sCabbOy
09-19-2007, 10:02 PM
But the numbers PER screen (that's how you gauge the success of a movie) isn't very good. GRanted yes it would have done much better if released on 1,200 screens but costs would have also been higher. That's my beef with movies like this. Go all out theatrically, or just show it in small indie theaters where the costs will be very minimal.
It's only going to make the movie look like a failure to people reading numbers. I still think the DVD release for this will kick ass.
simonthekillerewok
09-19-2007, 11:37 PM
But the numbers PER screen (that's how you gauge the success of a movie) isn't very good. GRanted yes it would have done much better if released on 1,200 screens but costs would have also been higher. That's my beef with movies like this. Go all out theatrically, or just show it in small indie theaters where the costs will be very minimal.
It's only going to make the movie look like a failure to people reading numbers. I still think the DVD release for this will kick ass.
Like I said if Anchor Bay spent money on TV spots on the local TV stations the film was playing in, the per screen average would have been much higher. I honestly think that you can never really judge if people like a movie by it's opening weekend.
And the people that did see it have tried to spread it by word of mouth, the problem is that our culture increasingly only listens to something if it's shown in their face by advertising- because it seems 'legit' this is what I found when I was telling people about the movie. They're not interested by what a fan has to say until it comes on their TV.
101ant101
09-20-2007, 05:32 PM
sorry but putting it on only 70 screens is hardly giving it a chance in theaters, other companies only offering DTV deals realized that it would only make money that way, because the movie looks and feels DTV. I know people that have seen Halloween in theaters 2 or 3 times and only watched Hatchet once because like they said it was OK, nothing special
you should put IMO. 'cos it dont agree with you
hack slash
09-20-2007, 05:47 PM
IMO...my bad
I'm sorry Hack. It's nothing personal but you liking the new Halloween movie completely invalidates your opinion in my eyes.
That fact completely eradicates any thought of you and I having a common taste in movies. Pity...
I love it when people make jackass comments like this. "I'm sorry, so-and-so, but your taste in such-and-such makes you have lousy taste in everything."
Don't be a dick, pal. Opinions are like assholes, and apparently, chief, yours stinks.
sCabbOy
09-20-2007, 06:32 PM
Even if someone has similar tastes in movies, gees, you won't have the same taste for every freaking movie.
I thought Halloween 07 was shitty and I can understand where people are coming from when they say they like it. People have different tastes you have to respect that because it's just silly when you don't.
101ant101
09-20-2007, 07:02 PM
IMO...my bad
lol. much better:p
ADDED:
Even if someone has similar tastes in movies, gees, you won't have the same taste for every freaking movie.
I thought Halloween 07 was shitty and I can understand where people are coming from when they say they like it. People have different tastes you have to respect that because it's just silly when you don't.
thats right people are different.;) lol.
mjollner
09-21-2007, 09:56 AM
ADDED:
thats right people are different.;) lol.
... but are created equal... :p
Even though I formulated myself clumsily, him liking Halloween made it overly apparant to me that we would not share opinions on Hatchet. But in the end... we sorta did. I want you to cherish that, Hack. :p
hack slash
09-21-2007, 01:11 PM
Even though I formulated myself clumsily, him liking Halloween made it overly apparant to me that we would not share opinions on Hatchet. But in the end... we sorta did. I want you to cherish that, Hack. :p
see it wasn't that good was it:D It was 1000000x better than Highlander:The Source:mad: though
sCabbOy
09-21-2007, 04:47 PM
Did anyone see JCB's props on eBay? They had masks from Victor, dummy's from the old couple's deaths, the leg, and so on. I believe Jason's boots are up as well.
101ant101
09-21-2007, 07:21 PM
Did anyone see JCB's props on eBay? They had masks from Victor, dummy's from the old couple's deaths, the leg, and so on. I believe Jason's boots are up as well.
coooool;):D
HollyWooDSlasher
09-26-2007, 02:44 AM
I thought Hatchet was a decent movie overall, The Dialogue sucked, and made The Dialogue in halloween Resurrection look Great. but Hodder played a kickass Character..and did a great job. i think Hatchet was trying to be somthing it will not be..A Friday The 13th Movie.... But All in All The kills are pretty kickass the allstar horror cast, Kane Hodder meeting Robert Englund... basicly what should have been (Freddy Vs Jason, Untill Kane got booted from the project) Still a damn shame.. But still a good movie worth seeing
I didn't think Kane really had all that intricate a part, it was cool to have a name actor from the genre but to say he and Robert's meeting was what FvsJ should have been is way overstating. You didn't really even see the kill on screen and they never "faced off". England was on screen for 5 minutes tops and then he screamed. Blood was tossed around and then you saw a shot of him and his guts FX.
As for Kane's acting, basically he had a couple scenes where he had to look concerned as Crowly's dad, but his expression never really changed.
As Victor he basically jumped out of no where and yelled.
Anyone could have played the part.
He did more as Jason and all he did with that was breath heavy and turn his head before he turned his shoulders.
I'm not trying to knock the guy, but his stuff in this movie was nothing amazing, certainly nothing more than he has done in anything else.
He was Victor only to appeal to the hardcore fans.
I agree that the movie seemed like it was trying to be a Friday the 13th and didn't quite measure up, but it was still a really fun movie and i would watch a sequel.
Sketch Sanchez
09-27-2007, 08:25 AM
I agree with everyone who said this movie has a DTV feel to it.
But the kills, good lord the kills! I was not prepared for that gore assault at all, I felt like a little girl screaming my head off when Victor did something particulary fucked up.
Holy shit. Thats all I can even say. Just: Holy shit.
HollyWooDSlasher
09-28-2007, 11:12 PM
I meant what freddy and jason should have been in actors... Kane got the boot and the 6'5 1/2 Canadian got the role as Jason.. thats all i was trying to say in that sense.
Kane Lives
09-28-2007, 11:44 PM
This film played nowhere even close to me sadly. But, it sounds like it was at least a fun film.
It'll definately be on my list of DVDs to buy.
hack slash
09-29-2007, 12:03 AM
Kane got the boot and the 6'5 1/2 Canadian got the role as Jason.. thats all i was trying to say in that sense.
what's being Canadian got to do with it IMO Kirzinger was pretty good in FvJ and Jason takes Manhattan
what's being Canadian got to do with it IMO Kirzinger was pretty good in FvJ and Jason takes Manhattan
Good question.
Why are people bashing Ken because of his nationality?
I don't think he was using "Canadian" in a derogatory manner, and as far as I saw there was no Ken "Bashing" involved.
I don't think I've seen anyone ever bash Ken because of his nationality, that would be foolish to do anyways because with the two countries being so close there is no difference between us (Except for better health care and generally nicer people in Canada.)
I have seen people bash him because they didn't like his body structure or that he just wasn't good in the role, and IMO, I can't argue with them.
Complaining that he got the role over Kane and throwing in that he is Canadian seems like a dig at the guy to me. Why is his nationality included in many of the negative posts about the guy if it's not to be another negative comment? He's a stuntman who works all over North America in the movie industry.
I also remember several posts from the old board where individuals complained about Ken and threw in the fact that he's Canadian and it really came off sounding like it was intended to be another put down.
sCabbOy
09-29-2007, 02:42 AM
I guess calling Kane a "selfish American" would be the inequivalent and it would tick a lot of people off.
But, calling him a Canadian may just be used as a loose adjective not a derogatory adjective.
Hmm, maybe we're not reading the same things because the only thing I ever remember anyone on the old boards saying was that Ken only got the role because of logistics, because he is from Canada it was cheaper to cast him, but if you take that as derogatory then, I don't know. I certainly have never read anyone say anything about it here.
I'm not trying to be confrontational Rick, I just don't think anyone is being Anti-Canadian in regards to Kirzinger. And I don't personally have anything against the guy, he seems like a genuinely cool guy and very good natured, I just don't think he was effective in the role (I know a lot of that was Ronny Yu's fault, but still, his body type is way off, IMO.) And yes, I myself have said I don't wish for anymore Fridays to be filmed in Canada, and thankfully The Dunes will keep it here in the states, but that has nothing to do with Anti-Canadian and more to do with a less "X-Files-like" look and feel.
I don't know about anyone else but I love Canada, it's given me many great productions, over twenty-five years of Degrassi and some of my favorite actors and actresses. Nothing but love.
Seeing as Hatchet wasn't opening in my state, I try to find a way to see it & I did. The gore are pretty much over the top. Wasn't expecting to be like that. Some kills are interesting & some are just cheesy. I also find it amusing how Kane run or walk or whatever as Victor. Is that why he refuse to run as Jason? :p
sCabbOy
09-29-2007, 05:43 AM
That's easy "Jason never runs"
DVD (http://www.horroryearbook.com/542177/hatchet-on-dvd-in-time-for-christmas) for Christmas
Director Adam Green had this to say on the official Hatchet Message Board:
“So get your Xmas stockings ready for what will be the best present a horror fan can get this Christmas.Oh- and to speak about HATCHET’s theatrical run in the U.S.- we had a great run. Ultimately however, Anchor Bay was faced with a choice. Either they continue to tour prints around the country- or they pull the film from theaters in order to have the official 90 days needed between theatrical and DVD release. Had it been a 3,000 screen release raking in millions- it may have been worth it to not have the DVD out in time for the holidays- but for a movie this small, I agree that the sooner we can make it available for everyone the better. So that means…Victor Crowley will be coming home in time for Christmas- unrated and fucking LOADED with special features. An official announcement, street date, and details of what you’ll get on the DVD is all coming in just a matter of days. So stay tuned to the various horror sites and the official HATCHET website for details. And remember, nothing says “Merry Christmas” like a hot chick getting her mouth sanded out in your stocking.
So get your Xmas stockings ready for what will be the best present a horror fan can get this Christmas.”
101ant101
10-02-2007, 09:15 PM
YES! another Christmas DVD for me.:D
MaDMaNMaRz
10-03-2007, 12:27 AM
I'm definitely picking this up. I didn't get the chance to see it in theaters. I'm glad to see they decided to just release it on DVD instead of continuing showing it in the theater.
sCabbOy
10-03-2007, 03:22 AM
Yeah I was worried they'd do another (smaller) theater run. I mean they may as well to at least earn more money to cover all of the prints they made- recycle them.
Some DVDetails (http://www.fangoria.com/news_article.php?id=5089)
Anchor Bay Entertainment gave Fango the first word on the DVD specs for HATCHET, writer/director Adam Green’s gruesome slasher film, which streets December 18.
Trimmed for an R rating for its theatrical release, the movie will appear in all its uncut, unrated glory on the disc in a 16x9-enhanced 1.78:1 widescreen transfer, with 90 minutes of bonus features:
• Audio commentary by Green, cinematographer Will Barratt and actors Tamara Feldman, Joel David Moore and Deon Richmond
• The Making of HATCHET featurette
• Meeting Victor Crowley featurette about the creation of the film’s villain
• Guts & Gore featurette, behind the scenes of the makeup and prosthetic FX
• Anatomy of a Kill featurette on the birth, design and execution of the “jaw-breaking” scene
• A Twisted Tale featurette in which Green recounts his decades-long friendship with “Twisted Sister” frontman and FANGORIA Radio host Dee Snider
• Gag reel
• Theatrical trailer
Oh yeah, there will also be an R-rated theatrical-cut disc, which will include the Meeting Victor Crowley featurette and theatrical trailer.
MaDMaNMaRz
10-03-2007, 07:01 AM
Alright, the special features sound like they'll be good. I can't wait.
Jigsaw
10-03-2007, 07:12 AM
I'll definitely check out the unrated DVD, it sounds great.
Sketch Sanchez
10-04-2007, 09:01 AM
Unrated? So that means the gore is even more extreme?
Holy crap in two hats.
sCabbOy
10-04-2007, 03:58 PM
I think the video for DL is the unrated one... and that's the one I saw. I thought there was too much blood in that. I'm curious to see the R rated version.
CosmoBubba
10-05-2007, 04:39 AM
I'm still flummoxed by the fact that they even released an R-rated version to begin with. Since it played in maybe ten cities, there really wasn't anything to stop them from releasing the NC-17 cut. I think it's just so they can slap a big "Unrated! The Version They Didn't Want You To See!" label on the DVD and make a little extra money.
Kane Lives
10-05-2007, 04:41 AM
The DVD sounds great. I'm buying.
Definitely picking this up.
sCabbOy
10-06-2007, 12:30 AM
I'm still flummoxed by the fact that they even released an R-rated version to begin with. Since it played in maybe ten cities, there really wasn't anything to stop them from releasing the NC-17 cut. I think it's just so they can slap a big "Unrated! The Version They Didn't Want You To See!" label on the DVD and make a little extra money.
They would have lost a lot of money. In those cities I am sure with an R rating younger teens could watch. With an Unrated or NC-17 it may as well been porno because only adults could see it.
Jack Bauer
10-06-2007, 12:38 AM
The DVD sounds like another Christmas present for me.
HollyWooDSlasher
10-06-2007, 04:48 AM
I was'nt actually insulting Ken, I just forgot his name at that very moment, and just used Canadian instead.. I'm Actually from Canada... lol.. I wasnt knocking Ken or anything, but i did'nt think he was a good Jason at All.. I mean he did'nt even play Jason 100% in the movie he shared time with another Stuntman. But Still Ken Is a improvement over some Jason's... But I did not think it was correctly to throw out kane hodder, because of a issue of size, he is 6'2 alot taller then Rob who is 5'10... well alright not alot but still a bit taller and bigger built. But yeah I was'nt knocking Ken... just the producers in a sense that they signed Kane on to do this movie and then bam he got the boot just before production.. and Ken got the role..
My mistake then, just always seeing Ken's nationality thrown in when people continually bash the guy's performance really gets on my nerves. Anyway, moving on.
I don't think Kane was ever signed to do the movie. He promoted the hell out of it when he was at signings and conventions but he never signed a contract. He met with Ronnie Yu when New Line settled on a director, but then never got a call back about it.
The two actors was Ronnie's idea I believe, he always wanted two units running to get filming done faster. With the fire walk he might not have wanted to risk his primary Jason performer part way through the shoot (even though Kerzinger was more qualified to do that stunt then Glen Ennis was), Robert Englund had a stunt double too.
hack slash
10-06-2007, 03:58 PM
I mean he didn't even play Jason 100% in the movie he shared time with another Stuntman.
Hodder was the same, he didn't play Jason 100% of the time either, in JTM Kirzinger also played Jason quite a bit I believe
The Dream Master
10-06-2007, 04:42 PM
I think Ken only played Jason in a couple of scenes in JTM (one instance was the subway scene--the other escapes me).
sCabbOy
10-06-2007, 09:27 PM
I think Ken only played Jason in a couple of scenes in JTM (one instance was the subway scene--the other escapes me).
I believe the subway and being hit by the car? or did he jump out of the way?
Ken also played himself when Jason threw him like an old dirty towel.
Kane Lives
10-06-2007, 10:00 PM
I believe the subway and being hit by the car?
Yeah in the FVJ Magazine, Ken said those were the two scenes he did.
HollyWooDSlasher
10-07-2007, 01:32 AM
yeah thats my bad then... we all jump to conclusions without getting the full information lol. But Yeah Robert's Stunt Double believe it or not was multiple people one of which was Rey Mysterio yes the wrestler, rey was in the flashback scene where Jason Drowns...Jumping out of the water and such. But Yeah... For the most part I just did'nt like Ken's preformance as Jason, in Freddy Vs Jason... I just really did'nt..
girlychaos
10-19-2007, 06:09 AM
Has anyone actually watched this movie? I'm looking forward to knowing what you guys thought about it.
hack slash
10-19-2007, 06:40 AM
Has anyone actually watched this movie? I'm looking forward to knowing what you guys thought about it.
I've seen it. It's OK and that's about it, it looks and feels very DTV, the blood looks like it's being sprayed through an airhose, the acting is very DTV, some of the kills are cool, until the blood starts misting...I mean flowing:side:
Sketch Sanchez
10-19-2007, 11:40 AM
Yea its pretty terrible except for the kills, they're over the top but thats better than nothing. Cuz then you'd just have a tame dtv slasher, and thats just lame.
IMO the whole movie is over the top in all aspects.
It was definitely fun though.
sCabbOy
10-19-2007, 05:54 PM
If a movie relies on over the top/graphic kills to entertain, well then the movie is a piece of shit. I don't think this movie would be good at all w/o the blood and gore. Sad to say that but it's true.
CosmoBubba
10-19-2007, 08:05 PM
Has anyone actually watched this movie? I'm looking forward to knowing what you guys thought about it.
I'll agree with what's been said, in noting that it's a movie with a very direct-to-video feel. And there's no way that Hatchet can be considered a serious horror movie, because there's just too much intentional comedy. It's almost like a parody of an '80s slasher movie.
It's almost like a parody of an '80s slasher movie.
That's what i thought it was supposed to be when i originally saw it.
sCabbOy
10-19-2007, 11:46 PM
I wouldn't say a parody of an 80's movie, to me it didn't have any feel of an 80's movie. It felt like a parody of Wrong Turn or Pumpkinhead 2 or something.
Apocalypto
10-20-2007, 12:39 AM
If a movie relies on over the top/graphic kills to entertain, well then the movie is a piece of shit. I don't think this movie would be good at all w/o the blood and gore. Sad to say that but it's true.
It's a piece of shit if you don't enjoy over the top horror films, just as if you don't enjoy a film that relies on humor than a comedy is a piece of shit or if you don't enjoy a film that relies upono sappy-ness than a drama is a piece of shit.
I think there's a place for gore in cinema just as there is for drama, action, humor, suspense etc...
I loved the gore, it was the only thing that kept me interested. I'd just like to see less of the over the top blood spraying of Hatchet and Freddy vs. Jason and more classic 80's Savini-like grue. That's the one good thing I can say about TCM: TB and one of many I can say about the HHE remake, the gore was real and plentiful.
With that said, I think thehead rip in Hatchet is the best kill of the year so far, we'll see if Saw IV can answer it.
Apocalypto
10-20-2007, 12:49 AM
I haven't seen the film yet, but movies like Hatchet don't really have the same intentions with the violence as films like TCM: TB or HHE.
Those movies are trying to disturb and unnerve the audience, to present violence and violent people as vile and repugnant.
Movies like Hatchet are just fun splatterfests made for a "whoa, cool" reaction, hence the gore isn't meant to look nearly as believeable.
sCabbOy
10-20-2007, 01:18 AM
It's a piece of shit if you don't enjoy over the top horror films, just as if you don't enjoy a film that relies on humor than a comedy is a piece of shit or if you don't enjoy a film that relies upono sappy-ness than a drama is a piece of shit.
I think there's a place for gore in cinema just as there is for drama, action, humor, suspense etc...
Well, without the blood and gore it would not be over the top. It's be sort of lame and boring.
Apocalypto
10-20-2007, 01:33 AM
Then I guess this just isn't your type of horror.
Do you think stuff like Dead Alive, Shaun of the Dead, Evil Dead...is lame and boring too?
I haven't seen this film yet (because of it's measley 70 theatre release, I really want to though), but it seems to be in the same vain as those.
sCabbOy
10-20-2007, 01:50 AM
I like those movies aside from Shaun (hated it), but hard to compare them. I still stand behind my opinion that if Hatchet had NO over the top blood and gore it would have been unwatchable for me. I never said it was unwatchable now. Dead-Alive was funny, it would have been funny w/o blood. Evil Dead really didn;t need blood and didn't have a lot really.
Hatchet had a good story, but the whole "tour boat" thing was silly and sorta stupid. The movie from that point on was nothing but them runnign around and then getting killed horribly. Take those bloody kills out then what do you have left? A PG-13 DTV snoozefest.
It's only my opinion.
Apocalypto
10-20-2007, 01:53 AM
I think the same applies to the films I mentioned, I enjoy them (Dead Alive and Shaun anyway), but they needed the gore because it's essential to these types of pardody type horror comedy romps.
hack slash
10-20-2007, 02:25 AM
alot of the comedy in Hatchet was unintentional
I felt the blood in F v J was more realistic DRE:D
sCabbOy
10-20-2007, 03:01 AM
See, I agree with that- that the gore is essential. Without the gore it won't be half the film that it was. Dead-Alive had more comedy going than the excessive gore, depending how you look at it.
As for the movie being unintentionally funny, I'd like to hear Green's opinion on that. I just went in thinking it was all intentional. Some of it was just... over the top (in fear of using this term too much). The shovel, jaw break, hatchet to the shoulder decap, the leg severing were all just so excessive that it was funny. I am sure Adam Green knows that when kills are done like that it will be funny and not scary. Sorta like the sleeping bag kill in The New Blood, the spear gun to the groin in The Final Chapter and so on.
Apocalypto
10-20-2007, 03:02 AM
alot of the comedy in Hatchet was unintentional
I felt the blood in F v J was more realistic DRE:D
I don't see how that's possible, I hated the CGI cartoon blood splashing around in that movie.
In Dead Alive the excessive gore was a part of the comedy, they went hand-in-hand together.
I don't see how that's possible, I hated the CGI cartoon blood splashing around in that movie.
Ditto. Too much air pump blood spraying as well.
But I love the bed kill.
sCabbOy
10-20-2007, 04:47 AM
Way too much air, it was almost a mist. It's hard to pump fake blood through tubes anyways, it has to be watered down...prolly too much water as well. One scene was it me, or could you hear the air? You'd think that every sound during that scene would have been overdubbed.
Was it at the rave? Because I heard it there and when Freddy was getting slashed on the docks.
With that said, I think thehead rip in Hatchet is the best kill of the year so far, we'll see if Saw IV can answer it.
Really? I thought that one was a little too over the top, that it was bad. I think I like the hand sander to the poor gal's face . Pretty creative & nasty. :eek:
Apocalypto
10-20-2007, 07:22 PM
Anyone know if this has a dvd release date yet?
CosmoBubba
10-21-2007, 12:05 AM
Anyone know if this has a dvd release date yet?
It'll be released on December 18th as separate rated and unrated DVDs.
Joe Strummer
10-28-2007, 03:31 AM
I loved this movie-it was not a serious movie like I expected it to be-the revival of slasher films, but I had a lot of fun watching it. that black guy was hilarious! "oh no he's going to break me in half!!"
The Dream Master
12-19-2007, 11:17 PM
Anyone pick this up yesterday? I got it at Best Buy (it came with an exclusive keychain). I'll be giving it a look in the next couple of days probably.
El Rooto
12-19-2007, 11:21 PM
I rented it yesterday--it was just a coincidence that I saw it, I didn't even remember the release date.
It was pretty good.
Jigsaw
12-19-2007, 11:34 PM
I'll see if the Hollywood Video near me has this for rent.
Kane Lives
12-20-2007, 07:07 AM
I picked it up yesterday. I liked it a lot. It felt pretty much like a Jason movie with the tone of Behind the Mask. Or maybe the tone of it just reminded me of Behind the Mask because I've seen that movie recently. I also felt a grain of Pumpkinhead in the backstory, where the Father has lost his Son.
I enjoyed Robert Englund and Tony Todd in their quick cameos. I felt Beuchler also had a funny cameo. I thought the majority of the cast was watchable and even found a few of the characters to be likeable. But, one I didn't really care for at all was the camera guy who worked for "Bayou Beavers" and kept filming the girls getting topless. The payoff for his character after he dies was kind of funny, but as a character, I felt he didn't add much. And I did finally get annoyed with the two girls, especially the Blond. I felt they had a few too many jokes further into the movie; although on the second viewing, they didn't bother me as much. IMO, Kane did a good job as Crowley. He gave a very crazed and animated performance; the same reason I was always a fan of his Jason. The pacing of the film was pretty good too. An hour and eighteen minutes is pretty tight for a Horror film, but it worked here IMO.
There were a couple of small things that I didn't really care for. Some of the music early on, especially the music used when they first start off on the bus, was something that bothered me a little. The Director gave his reasons for it, but I still feel like it was a little out of place.
Most of the gore was really good I thought. I didn't see it theatrically, so I don't know how much they cut from that version. However, I didn't really like the random shots of blood flying and splashing against leaves. I found that to be a little corny. Also, when the blood would spray like mist, just didn't work for me.
And I really disliked the ending of the film. It just ends right in the middle of a scene with no conclusion. But, they talked about a Hatchet Sequel on the commentary, and already knowing the story for it; so I guess that explains that away.
I hadn't read too many spoilers on it, and the trailer had suggested something that would be a little more serious. But, this may have been the right approach for all I know. I did really like it a lot, so I guess there isn't much to complain about overall.
hack slash
12-20-2007, 01:13 PM
9.99 at Wal-Mart, wow I figured this junk would go straight to the 5 dollar bin
i think this film was really overrated.
It wasn't what I expected but it was fun. I still haven't picked it up yet. I'll have to wait till after the new year.
I just felt that there was a huge chunk of the film with no action.
True, but when the violence kicked in it was fast and brutal and just kept going.
I think that made up for the slow scenes.
thats where i felt the problem arose...trying to rush the action in at the end:confused:
sCabbOy
12-21-2007, 05:31 PM
i think this film was really overrated.
Horribly overrated. I thought the movie was at best mediocre. Even the blood and gore looked shitty and cheap in a lot of scenes. Victor Crowley's make up looked really... funny and not scary.
It wasn't "fun" IMO, it just had funny scenes. The movie really should have never made a theatrical run and it had a DTV feel, absolutely. It's like a 6/10 movie, if that.
Blood and gore can't mask shittiness, and if the movie had no blood and gore it would be shitty.
Ghostface
12-22-2007, 02:04 AM
So, Hatchet only having action at the end is different from a Friday movie how?!:D
sCabbOy
12-22-2007, 02:07 AM
Oh whatever, lol... most Friday movies have action throughout. Hatchet had action throughout as well... it just had a lot of annoying sequences.
Horribly overrated. I thought the movie was at best mediocre. Even the blood and gore looked shitty and cheap in a lot of scenes. Victor Crowley's make up looked really... funny and not scary.
It wasn't "fun" IMO, it just had funny scenes. The movie really should have never made a theatrical run and it had a DTV feel, absolutely. It's like a 6/10 movie, if that.
Blood and gore can't mask shittiness, and if the movie had no blood and gore it would be shitty.
You see, I was kinda nervous about your response to my post, but it actually shows why you are a member of _Baker's Dozen_...You have the same disease as I...this film was hyped and tried to be...but it wasn't.
sCabbOy
12-22-2007, 02:45 AM
You see, I was kinda nervous about your response to my post, but it actually shows why you are a member of _Baker's Dozen_...You have the same disease as I...this film was hyped and tried to be...but it wasn't.
Just listening to people talk about it from screenings as the best horror movie of the last 5 years, or whatever... it was like everyone was in on it and being paid to give positive reviews of it.
It's not a bad movie, it's just not great. I have seen a lot of indie movies with smaller budgets do much better- like Deadwood Park... breathtaking indie film with a micro budget. I swear the production value looks like it was a million bucks.
Anyways, the same thing happened with The Tripper... it wasn't a bad film, it jsut wasn't great. The SFX in The Tripper were lack luster though.
I liked Hatchet..I just didn't love it. I think Plasterhead deserves the spot of #1 slasher of the year.
Lance Lives
12-22-2007, 05:23 AM
I remember hearing about this and how it was the re-birth of the serious slasher, and it doesn't seem like you guys are finding it to be that at all. I knew Kane was in it, but somehow had overlooked the fact that Robert Englund and Tony Todd were in it until my girlfriend was reading me the back of the case. I'm still gonna check it out when I have a chance.
Melanie Jarvis
12-22-2007, 06:58 AM
I bought "Hatchet" the other day and watched it last night. It was decent, especially if you compare it to most of the garbage that comes out today. Do I agree that it is one of the best horror movies out there? No way. But it was worth watching, and like I said, it's a lot better than most other horror movies that have been released over the past few years.
Kane Lives
12-22-2007, 04:43 PM
I did enjoy this movie, but do feel it was over-hyped. It's a fun little slasher film IMO, but really nothing more.
sCabbOy
12-22-2007, 08:28 PM
I remember hearing about this and how it was the re-birth of the serious slasher, and it doesn't seem like you guys are finding it to be that at all. I knew Kane was in it, but somehow had overlooked the fact that Robert Englund and Tony Todd were in it until my girlfriend was reading me the back of the case. I'm still gonna check it out when I have a chance.
Giovani Ribisi was also in it (the scene with Englund). He's one of the most underrated actors out there.
Tony Todd had a very breif cameo in this, if you blink you might miss it.
Melanie Jarvis
12-23-2007, 04:16 AM
On the special features, they were saying that Tony Todd's character would be very important in the sequel.
I rewatched this tonight and I must say that this film was pretty solid. I think I set my expectations way too high for this film..almost impossibly high to meet. The criteria that I expected this film to meet were non-existent. I pretty much expected an Earth shattering slasher that would bring me back to 83'. I have now accepted the fact that it's impossible for that to happen, even in a cinematic sense. I think this movie is as close as we will get to an 'old school slasher'.
Giovani Ribisi was also in it (the scene with Englund). He's one of the most underrated actors out there.
That was Joshua Leonard from Blair Witch, not Ribisi.
I think the people who are saying it was the best horror film of the past five years are the same people who hate remakes and torture porn. I was very underwhelmed by this film, I guess I was expecting more from the way it was being heralded, but it turned out to be a DTV mess at worst or a mediocre episode of Masters of Horror at best.
I hate the term 'torture porn'. There's nothing pornographic about these films.
I hate the term 'torture porn'. There's nothing pornographic about these films.
Figure of speech sir. Even Porn couldn't save Hostel from boring me to tears.
Jigsaw
12-23-2007, 09:34 AM
I thought both Hostel movies were pretty bad, and neither was that gory. I don't care for torture films myself (and I don't think the first two Saws and to an extent Saw IV are anything like torture films at all).
I haven't even seen the second one yet, and I'm in no rush to.
Jigsaw
12-23-2007, 09:48 AM
Don't waste your time, Dre. 95 minutes of my life that would've been better spent scrubbing gum off the bottom of a table. Just as dull and predictable as the original and with one of the worst endings ever.
That bad, huh?
I usually try to find something to enjoy in a film, but I just couldn't find anything to care about in Hostel. The Dutch Businessman was cool though.
Jigsaw
12-23-2007, 10:12 AM
Hostel Part II's ending is up there with Saw III and Jason Takes Manhattan as one of the worst endings ever :X
I think Hostel had some really good ideas, but the execution was totally off for me. With much better writing, the concept has great potential, but Eli Roth just doesn't know how to pull it off properly.
sCabbOy
12-23-2007, 05:30 PM
That was Joshua Leonard from Blair Witch, not Ribisi.
Sap.
Don't I feel stupid now, haha.
Joshg
12-23-2007, 09:49 PM
I hate the term 'torture porn'. There's nothing pornographic about these films.
I never thought of 'torture porn' as horror films with torture and nudity. It bascially means...well, you know where nudity is in porn flicks? Everywhere, haha. It's basis is nudity. That's what it's built on. Acting comes second.
Here, 'torture porn' doesn't mean porn and torture. It means torture IS the porn. The film's basis is "porn" (meaning torture). It's built on torture terror.
sCabbOy
12-24-2007, 02:04 AM
Calling it 'torture porn' seems like a term an evangelist would use. It's not porno, porno is something aimed to a sole purpose of arousing someone or to cause sexual excitement. It's a horror movie with tits and ass... if that's porn then Jason Voorhees is John Holmes.
Jigsaw
12-24-2007, 02:05 AM
I agree with that. Torture Porn is just a stupid term.
Joshg
12-24-2007, 02:13 AM
But I don't think the people who made up 'torture porn' were thinking of anything sexual. It's not porn, it's torture. It just gives off the same thing as porn. No, not arousal, but exploitation. THERE! They should have called it torture exploitation.
Well, therefore, there is no need to classify these films any different. They are exploitation films just like "I Spit On Your Grave" and "Cannibal Holocaust".
MaDMaNMaRz
12-24-2007, 05:04 AM
I agree that the "torture porn" label is a bit ridiculous. I just call them exploitation films.
I bought the Unrated Director's Cut of this at Best Buy. It also came with a keychain. I actually haven't even watched it yet, so i'll have to do that soon.
I enjoyed the film more after a second watch and after watching the special features. I too got the one with the key chain which was a little added bonus.
sCabbOy
12-24-2007, 04:51 PM
The porno label is just wrong because porno's sole purpose is to stimulate you sexually. Unless you are whacking off to the blood it's not porn, and still it'd be porn to you not everyone else.
But yeah all horror movies are basically exploitation movies, hell ALL movies are exploitation if you think about it.
whacking off to violence reminds me of something that would come from the mind of Rob Zombie.
The Dream Master
12-24-2007, 07:12 PM
whacking off to violence reminds me of something that would come from the mind of Rob Zombie.
Yeah, that, or pictures of dead animals. :X
Apocalypto
12-24-2007, 07:31 PM
It's alot of fun, I love self-referential genre splatterfests that cater to hardcore fans.
I didn't know they were making a sequel, is it official or just something that was planned before this one was even released?
A sequel to Hatchet? It probably will happen, but I'm not sure if it's official yet. It seems like the whole purpose of this film is solely to spin it off into a new franchise. One would also assume there would be a sequel given the ending and all..there was no closure what so ever.
Apocalypto
12-26-2007, 11:03 PM
Interview with Adam Green on Hatchet 2...
http://www.fangoria.com/news_article.php?id=5685
Fango recently caught up with HATCHET director Adam Green, who updated us on the possibilities of a follow-up to his acclaimed low-budget slasher film. “The way I left HATCHET open to sequels was by purposely leaving a lot of questions unanswered,” he tells us. “I have had a lot of people ask me if Victor Crowley really died or if he is a ghost or the undead. I left all of that ambiguous so that if there is a sequel, it will be its own film and not just Victor Crowley killing people again. We will go into the backstory with the next movie.
“I hope to do HATCHET 2,” he continues, “but it all comes down to when it happens and if I’m available, as well as what the terms are, because often when they make these movies and realize they have a cult following, they try to cheap out in a lot of areas. You know, the budget becomes smaller because they’re afraid that no one really cares or they don’t pay what they need to in order to bring certain actors back.” One guy that Green hopes will be returning is Kane Hodder, who played both the prosthetic-enhanced Crowley and the villain’s un-made-up father in the original. “Kane owns Victor Crowley, and he invented him,” states the filmmaker. “I hope that he will play it forever.”
Another movie that Green has been attached to is DEAD WEST, which we last reported on here—and which he admits may not actually happen. “I am still attached to DEAD WEST,” he says. “It’s based on a graphic novel and is sort of like Sergio Leone meets George A. Romero, but the way that all seems to be going right now…I’m not so sure if it’s going to work out.” One thing is for sure, though: Green won’t be taking on a rehash of an old cult classic. “All the shit I’ve been called in for—CHILDREN OF THE CORN, SILENT NIGHT, DEADLY NIGHT—they will remake everything,” he laughs. —Calum Waddell
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