Superman: Doomsday

[TheShowstoppa]

http://www.warnervideo.com/supermandoomsdaydvd/

Totally unrelated from the other two threads (and I'm sure those two could be merged) this movie comes out on 9/18. You better freakin believe my happy ass will be standing in line to pick this up! Fortunately it comes out 2 weeks after those TMNT DVDs so I can be light on cash! Who else is picking this up?!

Also a thing that cracks me up is that James Marsters plays Lex Luthor, which it's funny because he played Braniac in season 5 of smallville.

[Gringo Loco]

I'm dowloading something right now so I can't watch it. :(
But I will watch it soon. I hope it stays faithful to the comics. I don't understand why so many people had a problem with this storyline. At least that's what I heard.

[Franchise]

I'm a big Superman fan. I've been to Metropolis, Illinois on a trip (heh) and got a few pictures and visited the museum there. It's pretty cool.

Anyways, I think with the trailer that this could be damn good. I know I'll be forcing myself to buy it.

[Geddy Peart]

Does anyone else think Supes looks older with those extra cheek lines drawn on his face?

[Linderman]

Seems cool to me, I'll pick it up.

[Darth Sinister]

Does anyone else think Supes looks older with those extra cheek lines drawn on his face?

Clark was 34 when he died. So that's why he looks the way he does. Timm's going with the concept of Clark having been Superman for a long time now.

[Myers, Michael]

I'll have to check it out. I love most of the animated shows about DC comics so I'm sure I'll dig this. Even though I'm more of a Marvel guy.

[Geddy Peart]

Clark was 34 when he died. So that's why he looks the way he does. Timm's going with the concept of Clark having been Superman for a long time now.

I see. I'm just so used to how he was drawn on the animated series, and the two Justice League cartoons. I had assumed that he had been Supes for a while by the time JLU started.

[Darth Sinister]

This has nothing to do with what has come before. These new DC Animated films have zero ties to the DCAU of 1992-2006. It only bares a resemblence because the actual Death and Return storyline had about seven artists working over an eight month period. Four Superman books, two specials, an issue of Green Lantern and two issues of JLA.

This production has a new cast that includes Adam Baldwin as Superman/Clark Kent, Anne Heche as Lois Lane and James Marsters as Lex Luthor. It is a loose adaptation of the actual three act series, with Bruce Timm as producer. After this will be "Justice League: New Frontier" which adapts that mini-series written and drawn by Darwyn Cooke. Then "Teen Titans: The Judas Contract" which adapts the storyline by Marv Wolfman and George Perez. Both films will have animation similar to Cooke and Perez respectively. The last film will not have anything to do with the Cartoon Network series, which told it's own adaptation.

In the DCAU, Clark was supposed to be about 25 in "Last Son" part two and I believe he's 31 by "Destroyer". Though the ages of the characters never comes into play.

[Toejam]

This has nothing to do with what has come before. These new DC Animated films have zero ties to the DCAU of 1992-2006.

:eek:
Well, that kills at least half my excitement for this.

[Biosynthnut v.2]

Want this now... Loved the comic, loved the book.

[Darth Sinister]

:eek:
Well, that kills at least half my excitement for this.

It's made by the same folks that created the DCAU. Timm cited that he told all the stories that he wanted to tell when JLU ended. So now, it's time to adapt comic stories.

[Erik]

This movie will indeed kick ass, but the adaptation of The New Frontier will be ten times better. Hopefully they'll do Kingdom Come eventually.

[TheShowstoppa]

Toejam, Why in the world would you have believed this to have been associated with the DCAU? It's not that it wouldn't be awesome, but Doomsday has already appeared in the DCAU and it wasn't used in this manner, the manner it SHOULD have been used. I'm glad it's coming from the comic realm.

[Zombie]

They showed the movie at Comic Con but haven't been able to find anything about "reviews" or what people thought of it? I'm dying to see this and hope it's great. Only thing I'm worried about is the running time and how long/complex the actual series/story is and hope it's covered well. In the trailer they show Superman in his "black" suit without the cape and that's defitnitely after the death and he comes back, so I've been wondering if it's going to have the whole story AFTER he dies with the "fake" Supermen?

This came out during the time I was into comics and this was the only series that actually had me buying 2 copies, one to keep sealed and the others to read as I was that much into it. I even bought the big books that had like all the comics into one book. There was one for the start till the death then one after he died. Hell I would settle for a 3hr movie or like they did with those books, one part up till the death and funeral then the other with the imposters and return.

[Gringo Loco]

Yeah I just don't see how they could put the Death and Return all in one 80 minute movie. Like you Zombie, I would prefer the Death in one movie and the return in another. Don't forget about Funeral for a Friend hehe.

[Darth Sinister]

Ask and ye shall recieve.

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=122821

It's not two hours because it's just as expensive doing animation as it is a non animated film. Which is one of several reasons.

[Sketch Sanchez]

They're not married, and Lois doesn't know the secret -- but she's still dating Superman. What's more, they're apparently close enough that she appears in the Fortress of Solitude wearing only a towel, and later a red bathrobe (to match the Man of Steel's). Still, she only calls him "Superman," although he reminds her about "Kal-El." While this smacks of classic Silver Age Superdickery (TM),

LOL

[Darth Sinister]

In the 70's, Lois did date Superman several times. So that's where that comes from.

[Lammert]

I was hoping for a movie trailer... but this is just a cartoon(not into cartoons anymore).

[Zombie]

Wow, I haven't seen one tv spot, or any kind of advertising for this movie! Yet I saw it in Best Buy's ad this morning! I didn't even know it was close to coming out. I've seen commercials for other "comic movie" cartoons like Dr Strange and some other but never saw this one.

Well it comes out Tuesday. A definite buy for me.

[Just Jeans]

Marvel seems to be pushing most of their direct to DVD animated films more heavily than DC, which is a shame.

[hack slash]

Wow, I haven't seen one tv spot, or any kind of advertising for this movie!

I've seen TV spots on NICK, USA, SCI-FI and Cartoon Network

[Just Jeans]

Nick and Cartoon Network, I can't speak for. But But I watch both SCI-FI and USA pretty regularly, and I've seen nothing. :meh:

[Darth Sinister]

I've seen it on Fox and CW at various hours.

[Zombie]

Oh jeez, where do I start with this? Really dissapointed in this movie, maybe because I was really looking forward for this. I don't know, just wasn't ANYTHING what I thought it was going to be except the "fight" and the "death". Doomsday not really portrayed like in the comics, really seemed rushed, then just takes a totally different spin on things and just a new/different story and nothing about this comic series after the death/fight.

Guess I'll go in spoiler mode -

There's no "Funeral for a friend" story, no other DC Comic charaters, there's no "four Supermen", and the return is just eh. They have the funeral, then goes to "he's back", then right away find out it's not the "right" Superman and then goes to find out it's Lex who cloned Superman for his evil doings and then all of a sudden Superman is getting healed and is back for one more big fight scene.

I didn't like how the "third" act if you want to call it turned into, I was really hoping it would have at least 1-2 of the fake supermen and then going that way with the story. I knew they were limited with the time and such but I was expecting something way better then this.

I don't feel like typing to much, for a "kids" movie they'll enjoy it, as for an adult movie, it's so so. I kind of knew this wasn't going to be the "greatest" ever, mainly because the huge plot of this story, how long it is and then them trying to cram everything in to fit under 90 mins. Also maybe they don't have lisence's for other characters?

It was going ok, I was having fun with it, then just fell flat and was more like a "WTF Just happened here?" and what went wrong?

5 out of 10

[Darth Sinister]

Bruce Timm made it clear up front that this wasn't going to be a 100% faithful version. There was too much there and he wanted to go in a different direction for the second and third acts. He also said that he didn't include the heroes because it lessens the impact if the world has other defenders like Batman, Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel.

[Biosynthnut v.2]

Even I wouldn't have expected them to cram all of that into one movie. If they did that it would have been a trilogy at most.

[Sketch Sanchez]

Well I thought this was fantastic, honestly.

The animation overall was superb and way above anything else DC has done animationwise, they way Supermans muscles would flex after punching doomsday in the gut, for example, was simply amazing.

They really made use of the PG-13 rating, Doomsday is one scary killer, and the fact that blows were allowed to be shown connecting was another huge plus (in JLU, for example, there would be a white flash of light when a punch would connect).

I do wish Doomsday rose from the dead again, but thats my only complaint. COnsidering just how much story the death and return of superman really was, I think they did one hell of a job.

James Marsters was a great Lex Luthor, pretty much the best I've ever seen/heard. Baldwin grew on me, I thought Heche did a real good job as well, the scene where she breaks down infront of Martha was not only well spoken and acted but wonderfully animated.

Having seen Doomsday and Superman really go at it like that has really mad eme content, just a gfantastic fight from start to finish (I also loved the little head tilt doomsday did after first encountering SUperman.)

Just a fantastic movie, easily my favorite Superman movie ever.

[hack slash]

I just watched it I gotta say it was awesome , The fight with Doomsday was very bad ass, as was the final fight. My only problem was Anne Heche I just didn't dig her voice work, Marsters and Baldwin were awesome. Loved the Kevin Smith cameo(if you've seen An Evening with Kevin Smith you'll get the joke in that scene:D)

I'd give it an 8/10

now bring on Teen Titans: The Judas Contract:D
ADDED:
Well I thought this was fantastic, honestly.

The animation overall was superb and way above anything else DC has done animationwise, they way Supermans muscles would flex after punching doomsday in the gut, for example, was simply amazing.

They really made use of the PG-13 rating, Doomsday is one scary killer, and the fact that blows were allowed to be shown connecting was another huge plus (in JLU, for example, there would be a white flash of light when a punch would connect). I do wish Doomsday rose from the dead again, but thats my only complaint. COnsidering just how much story the death and return of superman really was, I think they did one hell of a job.

James Marsters was a great Lex Luthor, pretty much the best I've ever seen/heard. Baldwin grew on me, I thought Heche did a real good job as well, the scene where she breaks down infront of Martha was not only well spoken and acted but wonderfully animated.

Having seen Doomsday and Superman really go at it like that has really mad eme content, just a gfantastic fight from start to finish (I also loved the little head tilt doomsday did after first encountering SUperman.)



Just a fantastic movie, easily my favorite Superman movie ever.

you might wanna put some spoiler tags in there somewhere :eek:

like I did on the quote:D

and yes the head tilt was pretty badass to see from Doomsday

[Sketch Sanchez]

I really dont see any spoilers in there.

Maybe the nitpick about Doomsday, maybe.

[TheShowstoppa]

I loved it/am loving it. I don't mind that it's not 100% in line with the comics. I've been waiting 14 years for this representation. The whole Superman Clone going apeshit thing on villians was pheonominal. I'm hoping that this did well enough or the Batman Knightfall storyline to come out on DVD. I would shit myself if it did.

[nottidelterrore]

Although this has no ties with the amazing DCAU, which I'm a huge fan of, I'd like to give this a watch sometime. Perhaps even add it to my collection.

[Jack Bauer]

I saw this the other week, and I was amazed. I thought that maybe Steel or Cyborg Superman would have make an appearance. But the best part in the film came from this line:

"Yeah, like we really needed him to bust up the mechanical spider, right? Lame!"

The Kevin Smith cameo made this film because of his history with Superman.

[TheShowstoppa]

Yeah I laughed my ass off when I heard that line. The fact that Kevin Smith has made an impact in so many comic universes is amazing. The dude is simply living out his dreams.

[The One and Only]

Finally sat down and watched this puppy last night,and I have to say that I loved it to no end. Doomsday has never looked so fierce before, with both his appearance and his actions. The brutal killings of the Lexcorp employees ,and anything that happened to cross his line of vision. That poor deer.:cry: Also enjoyed the appearance of the Toyman, although not creepy in the same way as the DACU version who'd even might creep out the Joker, the bloke in this version reminded a bit of what Dan Jurgans was trying to go for when he turned the villian into a child killing psychopath. Also this version looked like someone that would be on a list of sex offenders. Heck, the incident thatlead to the Clone-Superman killing him was as they say when advertising LAW & ORDER, "ripped from the headlines". In fact, this flick had some nice twisted moments, especially with Lex using the clone as a punching bag in the red sun room to vent his frustrations at the Man of Steel for daring to die. Also love all involved in the voice acting arena, Adam Baldwin made for a perfect Man of Steel. Likewise, James Marsters as Lex Luthor. Has anyone listened to the film's commentary when voice director Andrea Ramano was talking about how it was such a coup to get the bloke for the role considering Marsters busy schedule. The man had been casted for the voice of the Green Arrow in Justice League Unlimited, but scheduling problems forced him to bow out. I have to say I also thought Ray Wise doing Perry White was pitch perfect, and heck if they get MAN OF STEEL live-action going, I wouldn't mind if they dump Frank Langella for Wise.

I was sort've hoping that they'd at least have the Cyborg-Superman show up in the second half of the flick. With Henshaw making a big comeback in the Green Lantern and the massive Sinestro Corps War event in the comics, it would've made a nice compliment ,and cemented the villian status as one of Superman's main big bads. Also did anyone notice in the Requeim and Rebirth segemnt about how Mike Carlin and crew came up with Death/Funeral/Reign sagas, and were showing the various faux Superman from Reign of the Supermen, that they avoided showing any shots of Superboy. I guess the legal red tape with Siegal and Shuster's money grubbing heirs over the character prevents any use of the character by Warner's, even in a documentry:mad:. Hopefully, that will be rsolved in the near future ,and they can bring Kon-El back(and a little less darker than Geoff Johns made him). One last thing that I think they should've put in the flick, at least after the end credits was a shot of Doomsday, wherever they(the government) were keeping him, and have his eyes light up, and start laughing as he was shown in the Superman issue introducing the Cyborg. Anywho, great flick, and can't wait for New Frontier and the Judas Contract.

[Darth Sinister]

Hey, the Siegels and Shusters have a right to take back the Superboy copyright. DC fucked up back in 40's, by using the character without their permission and they were never properly compensated. In fact, the courts ruled that they had the right to terminate the copyright then and now. The problem is that neither side is capable of coming to a satisfactory agreement. If someone took something that you created without your consent, without paying you and telling you to fuck off, are you going to just sit there and take it?

[Sutter Cane]

I actually own this because I enjoyed it so much. It's in desperate need of a rewatch, but I remember really liking it when it first hit DVD. Maybe because it was the first more adult DC animated film. I'm not really sure. I think I've seen all of the animated DC films to date and I can honestly say I really like all of them.

[Voorheeszilla]

I haven't watched this one in a while either, but I love it. I love how they combined elements from each saga into it without making it overly long & such. The fight between Superman & Doomsday was & still is pretty fucking epic.