View Full Version : Friday the 13th, Part 3 (3D!)
BlakeTyner
07-13-2007, 03:56 AM
Eyeballs racing toward you, oh my!
~BT
Nancy Thompson
07-13-2007, 10:05 AM
Part 3 is not really my fav. But it did had some great stuff in it like Andy's death man that was so kick ass! And also it had the first hocky mask! I wish i could have seen this one in D3 i bet it been way better in 3D then what i seen on VHS and DVD
I loved the use of music in this movie. The two Steve Miner films really have great music and stalking sequences. The only thing I hold against The Final Chapter is that it is just one death after another, but with no stalking moments. None of the deaths really had any real set up. They just happened. The first three had the stalking element which made it more creepy.
sCabbOy
07-13-2007, 10:34 PM
I live a lot in this film. The cast was great, and so was the story. The whole "not mentioning Jason" thing worked well.
Lammert
07-14-2007, 01:07 AM
This movie is cool, it has its own kind of atmosphere... while 1, 2 and 4 feel alike to me, this one stands out on itself.
Nice actors, cool location and one of the best chases at the end!
Not my favorite, but it's high on the list!
MaDMaNMaRz
07-14-2007, 02:42 AM
I've always LOVED Part 3. It's always been close to the top of my list. I liked everything about it: the score, the characters, the kills, etc.
I did like the location in it, but IMO, it's not quite as creepy as Parts 1 and 2. Like scab said, I actually liked that they didn't mention Jason in the film. I think it worked.
CanadianFonzie
07-14-2007, 03:03 AM
I have quite the memory of watching this in theatres with my brother, and yes I saw it in 3D, watching it without 3D now, I find it kind of pathetic how obvious they made everything that was intended to be 3D, but I still love this movie, had some of my favourite Jason kills
sCabbOy
07-14-2007, 04:14 AM
The creepy thing was Jason watching the kids the entire time. He was literally right under their noses and they had no clue who he was, and what happened the night before.
The creepy thing was Jason watching the kids the entire time. He was literally right under their noses and they had no clue who he was, and what happened the night before.
That is what made the original scary. What made the original even scarier though is that not only did the characters not know who the stalker was, neither did the audience.
sCabbOy
07-14-2007, 06:25 AM
That is what made the original scary. What made the original even scarier though is that not only did the characters not know who the stalker was, neither did the audience.
Yeah, exactly.
Too bad the trailer for Part III had Jason plastered allover it.
CampNewBlood
07-14-2007, 08:46 AM
Yea Part 3 is a great movie in every aspect. Atleast to me. I've said it before and I'll say it again...the opening part where the camera pans into the general store that Edna and Harold own...the lightning and thunder in the background....the very green trees and wind slightly blowing.....now THAT is what makes for a great Friday the 13th.
Just the little things such as that are great BIG things in a movie such as this. And when Edna looks out the window and sees Jason (although she thinks it's Harold) walking behind the clothes is classic.
Great, great scenes.
Shoesalesman
07-14-2007, 09:54 PM
The first horror movie I ever saw, I was thirteen/fourteen at the time. Although not my favorite, the flow of the flick progressed well, as did the atmosphere after the sun went down.
sCabbOy
07-14-2007, 10:02 PM
the photography alone in the opening scene was gold.
CanadianFonzie
07-14-2007, 10:07 PM
the opening scene was an interesting use of part 2, I remember when I saw it in theatres, I still hadn't seen part 2 yet, so I was kind of clueless as to what was going on...so the next day I rented part 2 and it was all so clear
The Tall Man
07-15-2007, 12:32 AM
Scabboy, Jason's mentioned so much in the trailer because he's never actually identified in the movie itself.
(It's also why you get a "and Richard Brooker as Jason" credit)
T.M.
DavidDunn
07-15-2007, 12:48 AM
I saw Part III last night for the first time in EVER. Usually when I go to rent the Fridays that I don't own from Blockbuster during my bi-annual Friday the 13th marathon, a few are usually missing, and this one's usually it. This year it was A New Beginning. I forgot how awesome that this one was. That chase sequence was so suspenseful and imaginative (Jason using his new disguise to break the window that he's trapped in) on so many levels. I forgot that Ali ended up being the one to distract Jason long enough for Chris to put the axe in his face. It was sort of new to me all over again. But it was a great installment. Notice that in my sig, I've moved it up a little in the rank.
mcilroga
07-15-2007, 12:51 AM
Great installment... I like the "green"-ish hues throughout the film
And CampNewBlood, great avatar. [I]The Little Girl Who Lives Down The Lane is underrated. Jodie Foster was great in it.
Gringo Loco
07-15-2007, 12:55 AM
I think part 3 and 4 are the perfect pair. They go well with each other. I've had the luxury of being able to see part 3 in 3D and if you ever get the chance to see it, go! It helps if you haven't seen it in a while, so you can appreciate the movie as well as the 3D effects. God Bless The Alamo Drafthouse. ;)
sCabbOy
07-15-2007, 01:04 AM
They were a perfect pair. In fact I spliced the two movies together to make one 95 minute movie.
CampNewBlood
07-15-2007, 07:52 AM
Great installment... I like the "green"-ish hues throughout the film
And CampNewBlood, great avatar. [I]The Little Girl Who Lives Down The Lane is underrated. Jodie Foster was great in it.
Thanks mcilroga. Yea, The Little Girl Who Lives Down The Lane....I have always loved that movie.
And come to think of it, there is alot of green in Friday the 13th Part 3.
Shoesalesman
07-16-2007, 03:34 PM
Parts 1 and 2 had the entire campground areas where the chases occured, but Higgin's Haven was just a barn and a house. There didn't seem to be that much of an area for the kills to occur, but maybe it added to the tightness/closeness of the setting for others. There were some scenes where Jason and Chris were running around (the bridge, for example), but it was pretty minimal to me in comparison to the first two flicks.
Lammert
07-16-2007, 03:41 PM
To me, the quality of how they filmed this movie also lacks a bit, becuase of all the 3D stuff.
Just looking at it makes this movie look atleast 5 years older then Part 1 and 2.
sCabbOy
07-16-2007, 06:34 PM
I agree, but with only a scene or two.
One thing you do notice is that backgrounds are well lit... I liked that
I agree with shoesalesman. Part 3 happened in the same area, but obviously not on the camp site but on a barn and a house. It was or seemed more tight, clastrophobic, and iscolated.
Deathscythe
07-16-2007, 11:57 PM
The first Friday the 13th movie I watched. I remember being really young and for a second I thought that Shelly killed Vera because she turned him down.
Good times, good times.
kramerfan
07-17-2007, 03:46 PM
I love this one.Its funny how Edna couldnt tell Harold and Jason apart.lol
sCabbOy
07-17-2007, 05:30 PM
I'm sure it was dark outside.
Only reason we could see it was Jason was that the entire movie's background had to be lit. In movie land it was dark and she expected it to be Harold.
That was my only real problem with this movie. It had to be lit for the 3-D stuff, but it did suffer a little from it when you watch it now-a-days. The first two are so effective for many reasons, but their darkness is amoung those reasons.
kramerfan
07-17-2007, 06:29 PM
Hey scabboy i didnt think about that.
CampNewBlood
07-18-2007, 03:09 AM
I love this one.Its funny how Edna couldnt tell Harold and Jason apart.lol
LOL...I know. Jason was basically right on top of her.
I'm sure she didn't marry Harold for his pretty face. :)
Maybe that is why she complained about not getting any wealth from him.
Remember when she said she worked all day washing his clothes? Well, if his underwear was a part of that load, I can see why. :lmao:
Deathscythe
07-18-2007, 10:48 PM
That was my only real problem with this movie. It had to be lit for the 3-D stuff, but it did suffer a little from it when you watch it now-a-days. The first two are so effective for many reasons, but their darkness is amoung those reasons.
Speaking of which, has anyone here actually watched this movie in 3D?
James M
07-18-2007, 10:51 PM
I have. I saw it at a 3D theatre in Milwaukee like three years ago. The effects were great.
Speaking of which, has anyone here actually watched this movie in 3D?
Nope. It is a life long hope of mine to some day see this movie in 3-D. Those chances have become slim to none being that I now live in Hawaii, but who knows.
Lammert
07-18-2007, 11:12 PM
I have seen it in 3D at Amsterdam's film museum...
I called them to make a reservation, everything was ok. So I went there by train(took me 2hours or more) and then I had to take a big walk trough the heart of Amsterdam to find this museum. When I finally found it the guy wouldn't let me. Becuase I was to late to pickup my reservation(he never told me on the phone that I needed to be their 30mins earlier). I was really pissed of, remember these were the days when I was living and breathing Friday the 13th so after about 15 minutes of anger and trying to get in I managed... and there was one seat left.
I had a great ride, the 3D really adds to the movie! It's not just the objects but also some other stuff, like when we see Edna in her living room... you acctualy have the table infront of you, so its like you're there.
If you guys get a chance to watch it, it's worth it! Oh... and try to be on time and get a seat in the middle. ;)
CanadianFonzie
07-19-2007, 01:03 AM
I did see it in 3-D originally, when it was in theatres, personally it was no big deal to me, it was interesting, but it didn't make the movie any more scary, which I was expecting it to be more scary because of 3-D
CampNewBlood
07-19-2007, 09:09 AM
I saw it back in 1982 when it was released. I was 9 years old at the time so it's kinda hard to remember alot about what the effects looked like in 3-D.
Too bad it's not available on DVD in 3-D as a legitimate release.
Speck
07-19-2007, 10:15 AM
Well, to me the only way to watch a 3D movie is to see it on the big screen. I can't imagine getting the full effect by watching it on TV. I wish more theaters made an effort to show it.
Nancy Thompson
07-19-2007, 11:30 AM
I'm sure she didn't marry Harold for his pretty face. :)
Maybe that is why she complained about not getting any wealth from him.
Remember when she said she worked all day washing his clothes? Well, if his underwear was a part of that load, I can see why. :lmao:
LOL Rich :lmao:
I love this one.Its funny how Edna couldnt tell Harold and Jason apart.lol
To this day everytime i watch part 3 i just laugh when Edna couldn't tell Harold from Jason. I guess to her Harold is ugly as Jason is :lmao:
kramerfan
07-19-2007, 02:05 PM
I saw on the big screne in 1982 also when i was 10.
Wheatjedi
07-19-2007, 02:14 PM
My older brother took me to see it in '82, but I had just turned 7. I loved scary movies even then, and I begged him to take me. I don't remember very much, but I do recall the opening titles and the speargun effect being really good. It sure would be nice to see it again.
girlychaos
07-19-2007, 09:16 PM
I've seen the 3D version...it wasn't that great. But it must have been on the big screen.
The New Blood
07-20-2007, 02:29 AM
I gotta say, I love Jason's body language right after he shoots Vera in the eye. Its the coolest thing ever.
Gringo Loco
07-20-2007, 03:25 AM
That's one thing that bothers me about Friday 3. She couldn't tell that that wasn't Shelly with the spear gun?? He didn't have the wet suit on. What did he change real fast?
The New Blood
07-20-2007, 03:28 AM
That's one thing that bothers me about Friday 3. She couldn't tell that that wasn't Shelly with the spear gun?? He didn't have the wet suit on. What did he change real fast?
Well, she was pretty far from him. Anyway, why would she suspect its anyone else? She had no reason to believe anything strange was going on.
Anyway, she did get a different look on her face and asked "who are you?" right before he shot her.
Gringo Loco
07-20-2007, 03:30 AM
I always figured she was as far as the camera was from Jason. Like they showed her PoV so you can see that the spear was headed for her. I could be wrong, but I think I remember the spear being shown as it's traveling to her eye. I'd have to watch it again.
The New Blood
07-20-2007, 03:36 AM
I always figured she was as far as the camera was from Jason. Like they showed her PoV so you can see that the spear was headed for her. I could be wrong, but I think I remember the spear being shown as it's traveling to her eye. I'd have to watch it again.
yeah, you're right about that. I just watched the movie litterally 30 minutes ago. That still is kinda far, and who's to say a guy who is that into doing pranks wouldn't change his clothes to scare her again.
Utellme
07-21-2007, 05:54 AM
Does anybody else like the alternative face they was going to use for Jason better ? I do just wondering ?
The New Blood
07-21-2007, 06:01 AM
This is probably my favorite movie in the series. I love the atmosphere. Its perfect IMO. The kills were great and Jason looks really good. The one thing that really tops it off is that I really like the characters. They are all good in their own way. I have a lot of memories of watching this with about 10 friends while several fat blunts were being passed around. Good times. I feel nice whenever I watch this movie.
Utellme
07-21-2007, 07:19 AM
The Tall Man you like that alternate face Jason has in the alternate ending ? Also if they would of went with this ending that would leave alot open at the end Chris wouldnt have the Mrs Voorhees dream ? And the awesome Jason dream thats creepy.And then how would this film connect to TFC ?
Wheatjedi Does the novel explain all this for both movies part 3 ending and TFC Different beginning cause if Jason wasn't killed in part 3 wheres he at ? where did he go ?
Does the novels have a lot of different story lines ? are they all good story lines.Do they all help fill in lost parts in the fr 13th's and is there any Fr 13th novel that goes exactly right along with the movie with no differences and which one is the most different ?
sCabbOy
07-21-2007, 07:44 AM
The alternate ending in the Novel was a dream as I remember it. Chris is beheaded, but it was a dream. It only explains that ending.
The Tall Man
07-21-2007, 07:45 AM
Utellme, the alternate ending is just a dream. Chris is beheaded by Jason, but she wakes up and yadda yadda. It'd have gotten to the same end as the movie does, but just takes a different trip.
The novel ending is that the police are covering up Jason. There's no corpses, no nothing and Chris is just nuts.
I don't care for the alternate makeup job in the dream. It looks like a rubber mask.
T.M.
Utellme
07-21-2007, 02:11 PM
I would of rather seen that dream scene than the Mrs Voorhees jumping out of lake
it was pretty lame how they kept trying to use the jump scares at the end. it just got very tired and boring.
sCabbOy
07-21-2007, 06:50 PM
I still liked the ending, minus Mrs Voorhees- always hated that.
The scene where she's in the boat and see's Jason was great IMO.
CanadianFonzie
07-21-2007, 07:47 PM
I just watched this on dvd and I watched the theatrical trailer and it reminded me that I saw this movie the day it came out, ON Friday the 13th, which was pretty cool, lol
Shoesalesman
07-21-2007, 10:45 PM
it was pretty lame how they kept trying to use the jump scares at the end. it just got very tired and boring.
I don't know... after Chris saw Jason all bloodied/running out to her some of the tension from the barn climax returned. The log rubbing the boat made me jump a few times in the past.
JVY2K
07-21-2007, 10:50 PM
I don't know... after Chris saw Jason all bloodied/running out to her some of the tension from the barn climax returned. The log rubbing the boat made me jump a few times in the past.
I agree. I find the ending of 3 to be very errie. We're almost right there with Chris as every sound she hears she assumes it's Jason coming after her again. The post climax ending of 3 is probably my favorite of all the films.
CampNewBlood
07-22-2007, 01:07 AM
I have always enjoyed the ending to part 3. I love it when they did that......where the camera pans towards the lake and something makes a little ripple in the water to let you know something is still out there and that eerie music is playing.
Cool stuff.
MaDMaNMaRz
07-22-2007, 05:38 AM
I still liked the ending, minus Mrs Voorhees- always hated that.
The scene where she's in the boat and see's Jason was great IMO.
I agree with you about Mrs. Vorhees at the end. It was kind of an overkill. I mean, Parts 1 and 2 had that "jolt" scare at the end, and it worked. I thought it was kind of pointless in Part 3.
I like that scene as well. One of my favorite parts, infact.
Joshg
07-22-2007, 05:58 AM
The major problem with the end of Part 3 (I mean the Voorhees jump-lake) is that it's not as "wow" as the first two. It comes off as silly, not creepy. But I mind it less and less the more I watch it.
CampNewBlood
07-22-2007, 08:00 AM
They shoulda atleast had her decapitated or something. But, I still like it.....kinda cool with the little snake hangin out of her head....or is it a worm?
I have always hated that part. I usually turn the movie off before that happens. Lately though, I have watched it and thought of it as the ghost of Mrs. Voorhees helping Jason out and haunting the area.
CampNewBlood
07-22-2007, 09:25 AM
I like Vera. She was pretty cool. Wish she would have lived.
Fancy Corkscrew
07-22-2007, 12:24 PM
I never liked the Mrs. Vorhees thing at the end because it does not make sense. Why would Chris know anything about her. She did not even know who Jason was. All she remembers is that she was attacked by him.
ADDED:
All and all this is a great entry in the series. Got to love all the overly-obvious 3d shots.
Lammert
07-22-2007, 01:10 PM
Yes, the whole Mrs. Voorhees thing at the end just sucks... I wonder who made that up.
Yes, the whole Mrs. Voorhees thing at the end just sucks... I wonder who made that up.
They were trying to follow the pattern of the first 2 movies, only this time it failed miserably.
I still say the Mrs. Voorhees thing was Mrs. Voorhees' ghost haunting the area and helping out Jason. Actually if you read the book Friday the 13th - Carnival of Maniacs and watch the movie Friday the 13th - Mother's Day, it makes perfect sense. Both of those works confirm what I have believed for years in that Mrs. Voorhees ghost haunts the area.
When I was a kid I used to hate that Mrs. Voorhees ending, but now-a-days thinking of it as Mrs. Voorhees' ghost, it makes a lot more sense to me. Chris did not have to know who she was, she was haunting the area and helping Jason.
I just think that part 3 was such a strong sequel and to tack that ending on was unneccesary.
Nancy Thompson
07-22-2007, 09:04 PM
I would of rather seen that dream scene than the Mrs Voorhees jumping out of lake
Same with me because no one knew the killer was Jason or who Mrs Voorhees was having her jump out of a lake in a dream was just stupid
Melanie Jarvis
07-22-2007, 10:29 PM
What I want to know is why they had to make the story to where Debbie was pregnant. If anything, I thought it would have been an incentive to leave her as a survivor, yet she was still killed off. So, her being pregnant really had no purpose.
sCabbOy
07-22-2007, 10:38 PM
The ending already had a chair jumper- Jason in the window. It would have been a better chair jumper if it was Jason and he came and killed her. It's unnecessary for the movies to have survivors since none of them came back (aside from Tommy).
I liked the fact Debbie was pregnant. It made the movie seem more in reality. Movies usually don't tack on small things like that for a character who will die. It made us realize that she and Andy were together and probably together for a long time.
When I was young I was always convinced Debbie and Chris were both pregnant. In the van when Andy hands her the pot she says "no way we're pregnant". I thought she was referring to she and Chris since Chris didn't eat any either.
Darth Sinister
07-22-2007, 11:03 PM
What I want to know is why they had to make the story to where Debbie was pregnant. If anything, I thought it would have been an incentive to leave her as a survivor, yet she was still killed off. So, her being pregnant really had no purpose.
It was to try and do something different with the characters. Just cause she was pregnant doesn't mean that she should be exempt from being killed. It illustrates how evil Jason is, even if he didn't know it.
Joshg
07-22-2007, 11:48 PM
It also gives the whole "they could have been a family" :( type deal.
Like when a kid dies, and you sometimes thing "they never had the chance to drive a car, or have sex"...depending on how young the kid is, let's how we're right. :O
Melanie Jarvis
07-23-2007, 05:43 AM
I know what they were trying to do. But that's friggin depressing.
What I want to know is why they had to make the story to where Debbie was pregnant. If anything, I thought it would have been an incentive to leave her as a survivor, yet she was still killed off. So, her being pregnant really had no purpose.
I think her being pregnant made her murder a little more shocking, especially on initial viewing. It raises questions like "Would Jason have murdered her if he knew she was pregnant?" or "Was that supposed to be some kind of pro or anti statement about abortion on the part of film makers?"
girlychaos
07-23-2007, 06:41 AM
I think her being pregnant made her murder a little more shocking, especially on initial viewing. It raises questions like "Would Jason have murdered her if he knew she was pregnant?" or "Was that supposed to be some kind of pro or anti statement about abortion on the part of film makers?"
That's exactly what I think. I had the same "doubt" a while ago. Now I see it just the way you said it.
Mr. Undertaker
07-23-2007, 06:43 AM
I've never had the chance to see it on real 3d big screen.....only once on tv with a funky liquid crystal glasses....that thing gave me a HUGE headache...
:(
I just watched this movie again last night. Man I love it more and more every time I watch it. I long to see it in 3-D at least once in my life.
CanadianFonzie
07-24-2007, 03:24 AM
I watched it again yesterday as well, I still say this has some of the best kills and one of the creepiest parts IMO, when Jason was hanging on that rope and Chris opened the door only to see him still alive
Mr. Undertaker
07-24-2007, 03:51 AM
that one is one of my favorit parts on all the saga
girlychaos
07-24-2007, 05:26 AM
That was creepy! I got really scared first time I watched it....when I was a kid.
Lammert
07-24-2007, 10:29 AM
I agree, I didn't expect that.. very good scene!
SmiTheReeNs*
07-24-2007, 02:38 PM
When Chris opened the barn door u can see Jasons eyes look right at her i was like he still not done yet!..then he pulls himself up and by then Chris is freaked! it gives me goosebumps when Jason takes off his hock Chris says "its you" and then Jason gives his evil hiss and smiles
CanadianFonzie
07-25-2007, 04:07 AM
see the thing is I knew Jason was still alive, just imagining if I was Chris and I was right there, that's something that goes through my head on these movies, but the strange thing is, slasher flicks I don't take the killings so seriously, while other horror movies (such as Hills Have Eyes) I watch and I get so angry because being a person who has experienced so many deaths, I take death seriously, and Hills Have Eyes has some pretty drastic shit happening in it...ofcourse this isn't the place to talk about that
Gringo Loco
07-25-2007, 04:28 AM
I agree. Some movies give the word desensitized a whole new meaning.
sCabbOy
07-25-2007, 06:03 PM
F13th movies are weird 1,2,4 were pretty easy to take seriously. Then 3,5,6 and on were more or less fan/body count movies.
Still, the kills were good, some were creepy, and they were all worthy.
3,5,6 and on were more or less fan/body count movies.
I don't agree with Part 3, with Chris' backstory (and the possabilities) and a pregnent woman being murdered by Jason, I think you can take it as seriously as Parts 1, 2, and 4. Not to mentiuon Jason does awesome stalking in this movie. He may be the best as a stalker in this one (if not Part 2).
sCabbOy
07-25-2007, 06:55 PM
Reason I say that was that a lot of people were introduced for a body count (i.e. Harold and Edna & the bikers. ) That's 5 right there.
Every character in every Friday the 13th movie is introduced for the body count. Each movie only has one or two important characters and the rest are nothing more then meat waiting to be put on the hook.
As far as the bikers go, in the end Ali turned out to be a hero, despite whether what was his intention or not. I'm sure he only attacked Jason for his own reason, but he still saved Chris' life.
hack slash
07-25-2007, 09:37 PM
I watched it in 3D in theaters when I was 8 or 9 and it scared the piss out of me
sCabbOy
07-25-2007, 10:57 PM
Every character in every Friday the 13th movie is introduced for the body count. Each movie only has one or two important characters and the rest are nothing more then meat waiting to be put on the hook.
As far as the bikers go, in the end Ali turned out to be a hero, despite whether what was his intention or not. I'm sure he only attacked Jason for his own reason, but he still saved Chris' life.
You're not picking up what I'm putting down.
I'm saying the ones I mentioned had more viable characters than the 'body count' ones.
Say, everyone in 2 was a viable character, and the ones who weren't left. Same with Part 1,4,7, etc. The people in the party house were there for jsut a body count, but they had scenes that revolved around them. Same with 7.
3 had Harold, Edna, the bikers... characters that weren't really needed aside from Ali.
5 had the Demon, his girl, Reggie's GRandfather, the greasers and so on.
6 had the paintballers, the moped couple,etc.
It seemed like those movies went out of their way to add bodies. Maybe not Part 3 so much, because Harold, edna and Ali played apart in the story... but still.
Utellme
07-25-2007, 11:41 PM
10 kills seem like a good number.
A lot of times after the film is finished (like in the case of Jason Lives) the studio demands more kills to be added.
girlychaos
07-26-2007, 03:33 AM
A lot of times after the film is finished (like in the case of Jason Lives) the studio demands more kills to be added.
That's right. And the thing is...even though I agree with scabboy, I really think part 3 shouldn't be in that list...I mean, Harold, Edna and the bikers had more to do with the plot than the other characters (for the body counting) in parts 5, 6 and 7 IMO.
CanadianFonzie
07-26-2007, 04:02 AM
F13th movies are weird 1,2,4 were pretty easy to take seriously. Then 3,5,6 and on were more or less fan/body count movies.
Still, the kills were good, some were creepy, and they were all worthy.
I couldn't think of a better way to word that, but still part 3 and 5 and believe it or ot part 6 had deaths that I really didn't want to happen,
part 3 was...um...the pregnant one, lol (yet another name rotten away from my memory) and I didn't want Harold to die and I definetally did NOT want Shelley to die
part 5 I didn't want the grandfather to die and the guy who ran the place...and that guy who stuttered and ofcourse Joey
part 6 was Tommy's friend at the beginning, the guy and girl who Jason stopped while they were driving towards the beginning and the councilor that got mangled in her room, as I've numerously stated
when I watch the movies those are the ones that I feel so bad about and really hate Jason for, every movie (up to part 8 IMO) has them, I just shose those movies to demonstrate
girlychaos
07-26-2007, 04:23 AM
part 3 was...um...the pregnant one, lol (yet another name rotten away from my memory)
Her name was Debbie. :)
CampNewBlood
07-26-2007, 10:04 AM
That was cool how Debbie was looking thru a Fangoria magazine right before she "bought the farm".
That was cool how Debbie was looking thru a Fangoria magazine right before she "bought the farm".
yeah that was a cool little Easter egg.
Lammert
07-26-2007, 10:13 AM
and the fun thing is, she was reading an article about Tom Savini(who did the fx in Parts 1 and 4).
I still don't see how you would take it any less serious then any of the others though. It may have only had one really important character in Chris and maybe Ali as a lesser somewhat important character, but I still think Chris' backstory and a pregnant woman being murdered more then makes up for bad characters.
I think Chris' backstory was way more personal even then Rob's (Final Chapter).
sCabbOy
07-26-2007, 08:19 PM
the story could be without those characters and it not really hurt it, right?
It seems that most slashers are guilty of that- adding characters jsut to up the body count. Sometimes adding them in a last effort to up it (as in jason Lives)
Darth Sinister
07-26-2007, 08:44 PM
Well, that's the thing with all sequels of this type or of the action film variety. You've got to increase everything and the entire "Friday The 13th" series became notorious for that. Just as the explosions and body counts increase in an action sequel, so too, does the body count go up. Sure, the story could do with or without some of them. The bikers in the third film come off the idea of having Shelly gain confidence with Vera, which will allow him to try and get laid later on. So in setting up Shelly's confidence, the opportunity arose to have them come back for revenge. Which then drags them into Jason's world. Harold and Edna just serve to demonstrate that Jason will kill those who are not intruders. They're victims of his rage at failing to kill Ginny and if you don't believe he killed Paul, him too.
By "Jason Lives", Paramount was trying to satisfy fans by adding additional victims and then by "Jason Goes To Hell", you had fans wanting the typical killing teens who have sex. That resulted in a pickup shoot with Jason as the coroner killing Luke, Alexis and Deborah.
the story could be without those characters and it not really hurt it, right?
It seems that most slashers are guilty of that- adding characters jsut to up the body count. Sometimes adding them in a last effort to up it (as in jason Lives)
You got it scab. As far as Friday 3 goes, Chris is pretty much the character of the movie while characters like the old man, the bikers, Shelley, and Rick are plot devices. The rest are there for the violence.
I don't think it is fair to just pin that on slasher movies though. Look at Die Hard. You have one main bad guy and that bad guy has like 20 goons working for him. Those goons are usually not even given names, as they are just there for the violence.
When it comes to movies that involve violence as an important part of the genre, you will have a lot more characters that are there for the violence then you will have that are actually important to the story.
girlychaos
07-27-2007, 05:40 AM
That was cool how Debbie was looking thru a Fangoria magazine right before she "bought the farm".
I always thought it was really cool... I did think about mentioning it here but somehow I always seemed to forget about it while I was here... :)
CampNewBlood
07-27-2007, 07:17 AM
I wonder what the story would have been like if Amy Steel hadn't turned down the chance of being in Part 3? I read where she said she thinks back and she should have done it.
Curious as to where the story would have gone.
I don't think we'll ever know. I don't even know if that story has ever been written.
CampNewBlood
07-27-2007, 08:39 AM
I have never heard if it has or not, I was just wondering what it would have been like.
girlychaos
07-29-2007, 04:10 AM
Yeah...does anybody know for sure whether it was written or not?
CanadianFonzie
07-29-2007, 04:12 AM
well if she had appeared it would have been like at the beginning of part 2, she'd die, lol
girlychaos
07-29-2007, 04:53 AM
well if she had appeared it would have been like at the beginning of part 2, she'd die, lol
Maybe....maybe not.
I just wish we could know for sure what the story would be.
CanadianFonzie
07-29-2007, 05:04 AM
but that could have changed the whole story line around...Tommy could have never been born:|
girlychaos
07-29-2007, 05:13 AM
You're right....but as I said before...we may never know... :(
Wheatjedi
07-29-2007, 07:29 PM
If Amy Steel had appeared in Part 3, I believe the film would have been similar to what Part V ended up being. For example, on page 123 of Crystal Lake Memories, Steve Miner says, " One (idea) I pursued for a long time, with Martin Kitrosser, was taking the character of Ginny from Part 2. Suppose she was in a mental institution, trying to recover, and we explored a psychological approach to Part 3?"
What the team behind Part V did was to take the script/idea that had been written by Martin Kitrosser and they handed it over to Danny Steinmann and David Cohen to rewrite because (according to Tim Silver) the violence in that script would have surely gotten a X rating.
It's all on page 123 of CLM if you want to check it out.
In a way though, I am glad the series (up to that point) wound up the way it did. I think it is much more Friday the 13th to have a group of people in the woods being stalked by a killer then have all that psychology stuff. Maybe that is one of the reasons I think Part 5 is a weaker movie then the first four. I do not think it is as effective in terms of terror.
CampNewBlood
07-30-2007, 08:10 AM
If Amy Steel had appeared in Part 3, I believe the film would have been similar to what Part V ended up being. For example, on page 123 of Crystal Lake Memories, Steve Miner says, " One (idea) I pursued for a long time, with Martin Kitrosser, was taking the character of Ginny from Part 2. Suppose she was in a mental institution, trying to recover, and we explored a psychological approach to Part 3?"
What the team behind Part V did was to take the script/idea that had been written by Martin Kitrosser and they handed it over to Danny Steinmann and David Cohen to rewrite because (according to Tim Silver) the violence in that script would have surely gotten a X rating.
It's all on page 123 of CLM if you want to check it out.
I forgot about reading that in my book. I'll have to go check it out again and read it.
Lammert
07-30-2007, 01:39 PM
I was watching Knight Rider season 4(episode KITTnap) and our good friend Ali(Nick Savaga) was in it.. only for a few moments, but he did scream and it sounded just like him in Part 3. Hehehehe...
SmiTheReeNs*
07-30-2007, 01:47 PM
:lol: Lam i remember that episode! and yes Knight Rider was the shiznit!
Utellme
07-31-2007, 03:11 AM
My only 2 complaints about part 3 is it did not have any deep woods chase scenes like part 1,2,6,7 had imo.And the Mrs Voorhees coming out of the lake but i love the movie would love to get a dvd with the all the uncut footage including alt ending with the different Jason mask and a true 3D dvd.
girlychaos
07-31-2007, 03:53 AM
In a way though, I am glad the series (up to that point) wound up the way it did. I think it is much more Friday the 13th to have a group of people in the woods being stalked by a killer then have all that psychology stuff. Maybe that is one of the reasons I think Part 5 is a weaker movie then the first four. I do not think it is as effective in terms of terror.
That's the way I've always thought of it all. Part 5 didn't really do it for me exactly because there was too much psychological stuff involved. I like it, but I like the first 4, parts 6 and 7 better.
sCabbOy
07-31-2007, 04:44 AM
I was watching Knight Rider season 4(episode KITTnap) and our good friend Ali(Nick Savaga) was in it.. only for a few moments, but he did scream and it sounded just like him in Part 3. Hehehehe...
He was also in a Fright Night movie as a bouncer.
Autobotsdie
07-31-2007, 04:55 AM
I think its interesting when you see different characters from horror movies and can point them out easily.
CanadianFonzie
07-31-2007, 04:58 AM
just like how I remember Debbie AND Chris on the same episode of Happy Days
sCabbOy
07-31-2007, 05:01 AM
just like how I remember Debbie AND Chris on the same episode of Happy Days
They had the same agent according to KRatka (he had the same agent) which was Tracie's mother.
SmiTheReeNs*
07-31-2007, 02:23 PM
I think its interesting when you see different characters from horror movies and can point them out easily.
its like playin that kevin bacon game but wit a slight twist
Shoesalesman
07-31-2007, 03:12 PM
part 3 is it did not have any deep woods chase scenes like part 1,2,6,7 had imo.
Yeah, the forest seemed to fill the background of the scenes and was not actually part of the movie. I would have loved to see Chris (or whoever) running for their lives, dodging trees and stuff.
The woods plays such an important role in F13 movies.
The only real woods chase was Chris' story of being attacked by Jason.
Darth Sinister
07-31-2007, 08:33 PM
Miner and the writers choose to do something that was different which works just fine. It's best to change things up a bit.
sCabbOy
07-31-2007, 08:53 PM
How many "woods chase scenes" did the others really have? Part 1 had Annie's death... 2 the Ginny/Jason chase... 4 had little snippets here and there but no chases. 5 Had more than the others and so on.
I just don't think chase scenes in the woods played a huge part in the series. It always seemed the people were always killed in a cabin/house.
Utellme
07-31-2007, 09:10 PM
How many "woods chase scenes" did the others really have? Part 1 had Annie's death... 2 the Ginny/Jason chase... 4 had little snippets here and there but no chases. 5 Had more than the others and so on.
I just don't think chase scenes in the woods played a huge part in the series. It always seemed the people were always killed in a cabin/house.
Part 6 n 7 had a few part 2 had the cop Ginny and 1 i guess didn't have a lot.But there was wood shots of Mrs Voorhees staring at them in the lake while they was swimming.Im not saying that 3 etc are not good because of woods scenes.I don't know call me wierd but the wood s scenes just add a extra scare element imo.
sCabbOy
07-31-2007, 10:59 PM
Part 6 n 7 had a few part 2 had the cop Ginny and 1 i guess didn't have a lot.But there was wood shots of Mrs Voorhees staring at them in the lake while they was swimming.Im not saying that 3 etc are not good because of woods scenes.I don't know call me wierd but the wood s scenes just add a extra scare element imo.
I agree they do, and most slashers use woods scenes and it usually is always 'atmospheric' because being in the woods alone with a killer lurking is scary.
What I liked in 2 was Jason lurking from the barn, sort of what Mrs V did from the woods. Then Jason jsut casually walking past windows and such.
Utellme
07-31-2007, 11:09 PM
Yep you got that right cause in part 3 him lurking and sneeking around windows in out of the barn that stuff was awesome same goes for the movie.Especially those scenes of Jason that Chris has, great stuff.But i just wish they could of thrown in a 2 minute deep woods scene either it being the wierd guy holding the eyeball or Chris and Rick somewhere i think the crazy old man would of been the perfect spot for it.And it would make sense to cause he was heading to the camp to warn them.
Autobotsdie
08-01-2007, 12:27 AM
Yep you got that right cause in part 3 him lurking and sneeking around windows in out of the barn that stuff was awesome same goes for the movie.Especially those scenes of Jason that Chris has, great stuff.But i just wish they could of thrown in a 2 minute deep woods scene either it being the wierd guy holding the eyeball or Chris and Rick somewhere i think the crazy old man would of been the perfect spot for it.And it would make sense to cause he was heading to the camp to warn them.
I wonder what would have happened if the crazy old man did show up at the camp and somehow avoided being killed by Jason?
sCabbOy
08-01-2007, 01:49 AM
I wonder what would have happened if the crazy old man did show up at the camp and somehow avoided being killed by Jason?
In the script he was supposed to meet up with Rick and Chriss right before they got back to Higgen's Haven. I wish that would have been left int he movie.
Utellme
08-01-2007, 02:30 AM
In the script he was supposed to meet up with Rick and Chriss right before they got back to Higgen's Haven. I wish that would have been left int he movie.
Was that filmed Scab ?
The New Blood
08-01-2007, 02:58 AM
Was that filmed Scab ?
It was filmed. There's a pic of it floating around somewhere.
Utellme
08-01-2007, 03:11 AM
It was filmed. There's a pic of it floating around somewhere.
Is it possible to get the pic on this thread ?
The New Blood
08-01-2007, 03:20 AM
Is it possible to get the pic on this thread ?
I don't have the pic, but I know I've seen it somewhere. Maybe someone will post it.
The Tall Man
08-01-2007, 03:23 AM
Do you know what happened in the scene?
T.M.
The New Blood
08-01-2007, 03:24 AM
No, unfortunately I do not.
Darth Sinister
08-01-2007, 10:21 PM
http://scabboy.net/friday/f3/3cut003.jpg
And here's where I got it from. http://scabboy.net/friday/friday1.html
I think it takes place during the scene where Rick and Chris hear someone in the distance. They run into Abel who again pleads that they leave the area, but Rick just keeps on dragging Chris with him. Abel shakes his head in disappointment and again says, "I have warned thee." Or something like that.
Utellme
08-01-2007, 11:29 PM
Be nice to get this filmed footage.
Autobotsdie
08-02-2007, 01:00 AM
What would be interesting would be is if they left the old man iun there and somehow Jason and him ran into each other but Jason didn't kill him for some reason.
SmiTheReeNs*
08-02-2007, 04:35 PM
i agree here i see Abel in the same line as Crazy Ralph and the caretaker IN JL Jason shoulda took care of him!:saw:
sCabbOy
08-02-2007, 05:09 PM
Be nice to get this filmed footage.
I have copies of some of the negatives to the scene. The guy I bought it from also had many copies from the alternate ending with Chris's beheading and some other cut scenes however I was outbid on those.
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4289/3cutwa2ke1.th.jpg (http://img171.imageshack.us/my.php?image=3cutwa2ke1.jpg)
Darth Sinister
08-03-2007, 02:03 AM
Nice stuff you've got there. :)
Mr. Undertaker
08-03-2007, 04:21 AM
scabboy.net is the place to find f13th related material!
girlychaos
08-03-2007, 04:33 AM
Yeah....thanks scabboy, it really looks cool btw!
Autobotsdie
08-03-2007, 04:55 AM
Thanks for the site.
sCabbOy
08-03-2007, 10:28 PM
I like CampCrystalLake.com better myself :D
Utellme
08-03-2007, 11:28 PM
Thanks Scabb thats good stuff there.I like both sites.
I wonder what that old guy actually says to them though. Do you think he knows about Jason and the legend? He seems to be one of those old locals who might.
Darth Sinister
08-06-2007, 09:10 PM
I don't think Abel knew anything other than Chris and her party should get the fuck outta dodge. That whoever or whatever Jason was, he didn't want them there.
I'm sure he (as every old timer in Crystal Lake) herd of the Jason legend.
Utellme
08-07-2007, 01:55 AM
Yeah cause in the beginning of part 3 he said he[Jason] has warn me.
I guess that scene was meant for us to believe that Jason gave him that eye ball?
Maybe not, because there are two possabilities here:
A) There was a dead animal in the road when Chris' van drove past it before they got to the old man. Did the old man cut the eye ball out of that animal to use it to scare the kids away from the area knowing Jason or some murderer is out there.
B) Jason gave him the eye ball himself.
That would have been very out of character for Jason to do such a thing. Jason would have just killed him so I believe possability A.
The Tall Man
08-07-2007, 03:31 AM
Rich, it's always seemed like Jason encountered that old man and gave him the eyeball. It looks like a human eyeball as well, not an animal's.
(remember this is part 3 in 1982... we don't really know WHAT Jason would do back then)
T.M.
sCabbOy
08-07-2007, 03:34 AM
Well, he said "HE wanted me to have this" it was either Jason, or someone who had direct contact with a corpse. I'm sure it was supposed to be human. I think Larry Zerner said in the commentary that it was a sheep eyeball IRL.
Well, he said "HE wanted me to have this"
I forgot about that line. With that being said, it must have been Jason.
remember this is part 3 in 1982... we don't really know WHAT Jason would do back then
I think based on Friday the 13th Part 2, it is safe to say he would have killed him, but, as a result of the above quote, I guess he didn't. :shifty:
SmiTheReeNs*
08-07-2007, 02:25 PM
Its hard for me to understand why Jason didnt kill that hillbilly bum..maybe Jason showed pity cuz he was ugly as he was but i tend to think he was just lyin and saw Jason kill somebody and left the eyeball behind..then he picked it up saying "he wanted me to have this"
sCabbOy
08-07-2007, 03:14 PM
It's all fiction. Even if he was meant to have had a run in with Jason, him not killing him is irrelevant. It's all missing timeline.
SmiTheReeNs*
08-07-2007, 06:26 PM
*robert stack voice* another episode of "timeline" unsolved mysteries!
Darth Sinister
08-07-2007, 09:28 PM
Jason probably ran across Abel and for whatever reason, opted not to kill him. Instead handed him the eyeball and walked off. That perhaps Jason rationalized that since a fallen tree limb didn't work, he'd leave a bodypart with someone and then that person would scare people off.
girlychaos
08-07-2007, 10:04 PM
I just don't see Jason actually giving as in handing it to him. I think what could've happened is: he saw Jason kill someone and picked the eyeball himself after Jason was done and gone.....something like that.
SmiTheReeNs*
08-07-2007, 11:04 PM
I just don't see Jason actually giving as in handing it to him. I think what could've happened is: he saw Jason kill someone and picked the eyeball himself after Jason was done and gone.....something like that.
exactly what i said;)
girlychaos
08-08-2007, 01:06 AM
exactly what i said;)
Yeah....
But I just don't think Jason decided not to kill him out of pitty. I think Jason never saw him at all.
SmiTheReeNs*
08-08-2007, 02:18 AM
Yeah....
But I just don't think Jason decided not to kill him out of pitty. I think Jason never saw him at all.
Thats only if Jason saw him but i highly doubt he did..im just rememberin how creepy Jason was when he was playin, now you see me now you dont with Edna @ the clothesline area..jus for a quick second you see Jasons face..first time i saw this scene the thrilling factor set in
Lammert
08-09-2007, 08:35 AM
The whole clothesline scene is creepy... Especially when we see Jason for the first time and she goes "Harold, what are you doing out there..?". And then she goes out and pickup the clothes.
girlychaos
08-10-2007, 07:22 PM
I've always liked the clothesline scene. I think it's one of the best in part 3even with no killing, chasing or nothing like that.
sCabbOy
08-10-2007, 07:30 PM
As a kid I always thought that entire opening scene was creepy. It was dark, secluded and seeing Jason creeping past Harold alone creeped me out.
Autobotsdie
08-11-2007, 12:50 AM
That scene reminded me of Halloween H2O when Michael snuck by LL Cool J without making a sound.
SmiTheReeNs*
08-11-2007, 01:03 AM
Another scene that got me chills was when Jason shot vera in the eye with the harpoon, tossed it on the dock and looked up at the house. Jasons evil demeanor was shown crystal clear!:jason:
girlychaos
08-11-2007, 01:52 AM
That scene reminded me of Halloween H2O when Michael snuck by LL Cool J without making a sound.
You're right...
I always liked that part too. I really need to watch H20 again though...it's been a while.
The New Blood
08-11-2007, 02:44 AM
Another scene that got me chills was when Jason shot vera in the eye with the harpoon, tossed it on the dock and looked up at the house. Jasons evil demeanor was shown crystal clear!:jason:
I love that part. The way he moves in that scene is what makes Richard Brooker the best Jason ever IMO.
MaDMaNMaRz
08-11-2007, 04:04 AM
I agree, TNB. I've always favored Brooker as well. :)
I like the scene when Harold's wife is taking the clothes down and she complains about his he takes his and leaves everything else for her to do and she sees an arm from behind a curtain and he moved away. That was a very scary scene.
The Dream Master
08-13-2007, 03:13 AM
I can remember watching this in my old house when I was about seven or eight years old (it was on a local channel really late on a Friday night). The scene with Jason standing behind the clothesline freaked me the hell out because I could look out of the window and see my grandparents' clothesline not too far away. :nervous:
To this day, I think that was probably the time I was the most scared while watching a F13 film. I wish it were still possible to have moments that freak you out like that.
MaDMaNMaRz
08-13-2007, 03:18 AM
I like the scene when Harold's wife is taking the clothes down and she complains about his he takes his and leaves everything else for her to do and she sees an arm from behind a curtain and he moved away. That was a very scary scene.
I agree Rich. I think the whole intro is very suspenseful.
girlychaos
08-13-2007, 03:49 AM
I can remember watching this in my old house when I was about seven or eight years old (it was on a local channel really late on a Friday night). The scene with Jason standing behind the clothesline freaked me the hell out because I could look out of the window and see my grandparents' clothesline not too far away. :nervous:
That's really nice! :)
I remember how I used to feel when I watched F13th movies as a kid....great times!
As for the clothesline scene...we were talking about how creepy it was a few days ago....I don't know which thread it was now....I don't think it was here. :thinking:
I can remember watching this in my old house when I was about seven or eight years old (it was on a local channel really late on a Friday night). The scene with Jason standing behind the clothesline freaked me the hell out because I could look out of the window and see my grandparents' clothesline not too far away. :nervous:
To this day, I think that was probably the time I was the most scared while watching a F13 film. I wish it were still possible to have moments that freak you out like that.
I had a moment like that recently out here on the island of Oahu, HI. I was walking to a local bus station and on a particular road there is a particular building that is burned and abandoned, but it looks so sinistar. It is a small one floor building and although it does not look like it at all, it still makes me think of Jason's shack in Friday the 13th Part 2. It doesn't really have the look, but it has the feel. It is so deserted that it looks like a place where someone would be watching you from the inside of. I catch myself watching my back more as I walk passed that place ever time.
Lammert
08-15-2007, 09:42 AM
Fridays 1 till 4 really scared me when I was young... Just the thought someone stalking around unseen like that gives me the creeps.
Autobotsdie
08-15-2007, 11:10 AM
Speaking of stalking. One Halloween several years ago there was this guy who dressed up as Jason and walked up and down several blocks scaring trick of treaters. People got pissed because he was scaring there kids and called the police. By the time the police showed up he was gone.
Speaking of stalking. One Halloween several years ago there was this guy who dressed up as Jason and walked up and down several blocks scaring trick of treaters. People got pissed because he was scaring there kids and called the police. By the time the police showed up he was gone.
Maybe it really was Jason:X
Speaking of stalking. One Halloween several years ago there was this guy who dressed up as Jason and walked up and down several blocks scaring trick of treaters. People got pissed because he was scaring there kids and called the police. By the time the police showed up he was gone.
Two years ago I basically did the same thing as Michael Myers. I don't know if anyone called the cops on me or not, but the way I see it is: It's Halloween. If you don't want to be scared, stay home. That is what Halloween is all about.
Everyone's entitled to one [or more then one] good scare.
sCabbOy
08-15-2007, 05:52 PM
When I was young, maybe 1989-91, someone robbed a convenient store with a nylon over his head and one of those crappy 99 cent glow in the dark hockey masks.
I always found that humorous.
What is even funnier about that is that if he did it at night, his mask would be glowing and the cops can chase him easier.
sCabbOy
08-15-2007, 06:15 PM
What is even funnier about that is that if he did it at night, his mask would be glowing and the cops can chase him easier.
Yeah, I wonder if he was caught and if so how? haha.
Darth Sinister
08-15-2007, 10:10 PM
See, I wanted to do that once a long time ago. Only not scare little kids, but try and mess with these girls in my class that were bitches. Dress as Jason, that is.
Autobotsdie
08-16-2007, 12:43 AM
I almost got suspended from school once because on Halloween I wore a hockey mask to school. They told me they frown on shit like that because it might produce violence in the school.
I liked Jason's look in this and TFC. I thought he looked very menacing and wasn't slow as molasses.
I almost got suspended from school once because on Halloween I wore a hockey mask to school. They told me they frown on shit like that because it might produce violence in the school.
If you are still in school, you should try to explain to them that Halloween is when you are supposed to be something scary. :p
I can see them getting upset if you dressed up as something extremely offensive, like a KKK member or something, but a hockey mask...that is just silly. You can get a hockey mask at a 99 cents store for crying out loud. Every Halloween store in the entire world sells them (for obvious reasons :D).
ADDED:
I liked Jason's look in this and TFC. I thought he looked very menacing and wasn't slow as molasses.
So do I. Although I do agree with Thac that Jason's make-up in The Final Chapter was a little stiff, I still liked how it looked. I have really grown to love how Jason looks in Friday the 13th Part 3. The last moments of the movie with him and Chris in the barn are golden. Also, when he first throws Rick through the window and climbs through himself, with the ax in hand, man he looked so scary and intense in those scenes.
Friday's 1-6 were great. The latter I like, but in a different way.
Darth Sinister
08-16-2007, 11:11 PM
I almost got suspended from school once because on Halloween I wore a hockey mask to school. They told me they frown on shit like that because it might produce violence in the school.
Wow, that's really stupid. Glad my school let those who dressed as Jason do so. Though their policy on Simpsons shirts was fucked up.
Yeah, I think most schools had the same policies on the simpsons t-shirts.
Deathscythe
08-17-2007, 12:03 AM
What Simpson policy?
when I was in elementary school, we were forbidden to wear simpsons shirts. if a student did they either had to turn it inside out or go home.
sCabbOy
08-17-2007, 12:50 AM
At our school we had to wear shirts without logos unless it was the brand logo. We also couldn't wear shorts until my Junior year. This was in Florida, so that policy sucked.
At our school we had to wear shirts without logos unless it was the brand logo. We also couldn't wear shorts until my Junior year. This was in Florida, so that policy sucked.
Ouch. thats cruel. Was it a public school?
sCabbOy
08-17-2007, 12:56 AM
Ouch. thats cruel. Was it a public school?
Yeah, in the bible belt south.
We also had to have sleeves, and females had to wear shirts with regular collars (no v necks). It was bullshite. Thankfully some superintendent came to his/her senses and changed all of that.
Wearing sweats in P.E. in 105F sun was horrible.
Dead Cell
08-18-2007, 05:42 AM
Part 3 is a weird one for me. I think the movie itself as a whole is okay, but I don't really care about any of the characters. It was the first time IMO that every last one of the main characters was a horror cliche.
We have the 2 yuppies
2 sex fiends
2 hippies on drugs
the practical joker
etc. etc.
It has been a long time since I watched it though, so maybe I'm being too harsh. I did love the entire chase between Chris and Jason at the end. That was especially well done. And there were some good bits in there with Shelly and the bikers and all that. But overall... meh. Just never really got into it.
I really didn't expect the biker characters in this one.
sCabbOy
08-18-2007, 07:04 PM
The way the movie was made, the bikers really ended up being nothing more than a body count. In the original script they had a bigger part, which ended up foreshadowing more why they ended up going to Higgins Haven. At the beginning when they were in the van (the kids) they stopped for Debbie's pee break and the bikers drove by fast kicking up dirt on them. Later on they saw the bikers get pulled over by cops and then cheered them on.
Then there was the store and then a chase afterwards where Shelly made Ali crash.
But, yeah, it didn't happen like that on film.
I actually rooted for Jason to kill them, they were jerks.
sCabbOy
08-18-2007, 08:02 PM
In the script, it actually made Ali look like a good-hearted villian. I would have preferred that because at the end when he sacrificed his life it would have meant more.
Deathscythe
08-19-2007, 01:45 AM
Ali got the 2nd best death in this movie, only 2nd to Veras spear in the eye death.
SmiTheReeNs*
08-19-2007, 04:08 AM
Lookin back Ali should have woke up and left the barn..Jason was choppin him with the:jason: at will! Haha how many times you heard Jason chop at him after he screamed? 12 or 13 times? That whole scene was great!
The Tall Man
08-19-2007, 07:30 AM
Jason was hitting Ali with a wrench, not a machete or knife.
T.M.
The Dream Master
08-19-2007, 07:35 AM
I for one love that grin Ali gives Shelly right before he breaks the window. That scene is priceless. I wish the bikers would have ended up having more scenes (per the script) as well.
CrazyCamper
08-19-2007, 12:52 PM
I for one love that grin Ali gives Shelly right before he breaks the window. That scene is priceless.
Tell me about it! He's standing there with a chain and smiles, and Shelly gets all relieved, LOL! "Oh, gee, he's not mad anymore!" :shy:
SmiTheReeNs*
08-19-2007, 02:55 PM
Jason was hitting Ali with a wrench, not a machete or knife.
T.M.
Im very aware that Jason hit him with a wrench the first time, i was talkin about the second time while Chris was tryin to get away from Jason at the end of the movie..
I thought this movie was full of great deaths.
The arrow in Vera's eye always comes to mind when thinking Friday 3 death. That scene was just awesome.
Jason bulked up a lot between 2 and 3. He musta been using steroids.
Darth Sinister
08-19-2007, 10:19 PM
The way the movie was made, the bikers really ended up being nothing more than a body count. In the original script they had a bigger part, which ended up foreshadowing more why they ended up going to Higgins Haven. At the beginning when they were in the van (the kids) they stopped for Debbie's pee break and the bikers drove by fast kicking up dirt on them. Later on they saw the bikers get pulled over by cops and then cheered them on.
Then there was the store and then a chase afterwards where Shelly made Ali crash.
But, yeah, it didn't happen like that on film.
I'm guessing that the chase was never done since it would've cost more and taken more time to film, than was necessary or allowed.
Side note, does anyone know why the script for the third film that's online was never completed. It ends with Chili's death. If you're that far into the damn thing, fuckin' finish it.
sCabbOy
08-19-2007, 10:31 PM
I'm guessing that the chase was never done since it would've cost more and taken more time to film, than was necessary or allowed.
Side note, does anyone know why the script for the third film that's online was never completed. It ends with Chili's death. If you're that far into the damn thing, fuckin' finish it.
Plus it would have added a lot of time to the movie. If everything the bikers were in was filmed it would have been an extra 5-7 minutes. But, the chase may have been costly to film as well.
girlychaos
08-20-2007, 05:52 AM
I thought this movie was full of great deaths.
I agree. Debbie's, Vera's, Rich's deaths were all great. My favorite has to be Andy's though, it was pretty creepy and brutal.
SmiTheReeNs*
08-21-2007, 04:47 PM
His first kill with his new hock...we got to see a treat right there
I like the stoner guy's death too. Not that the kill itself was that great (probbaly the worst in the movie) but the scene in the basement leading up to it was so damn scary, it is awesome!
sCabbOy
08-21-2007, 06:30 PM
Very good scene. As a kid I'm sure everyone got creeped out with that scene.
As per CLM that scene was longer a bit gorier.
MaDMaNMaRz
08-21-2007, 11:37 PM
I agree. The kill itself wasn't really that good, but the lead up to it was great.....very creepy.
If I had to pick one favorite, i'd probably say Andy's. That was great.
girlychaos
08-22-2007, 01:09 AM
If I had to pick one favorite, i'd probably say Andy's. That was great.
Exactly what I said. :)
Andy's death will always be my favorite.
The Dream Master
08-22-2007, 01:29 AM
I'll admit I've watched Andy's death in slow motion before on DVD just to see how it looks. You can hardly see anything without doing that.
girlychaos
08-22-2007, 04:07 AM
I've done it too...I have to say it's kind of addicting actually.
NETRA
08-22-2007, 04:27 AM
Andy's death in slow motion
I've never tried that. Now I'm curious!
I have never watched any death scene in slow motion. I think it would be a cool thing to try though.
MaDMaNMaRz
08-22-2007, 08:47 AM
I've never done that either. Looks like i'll have to try it now. :)
In a way this gives me an all new reason to watch a 1-4 marathon to watch every kill (and maybe every boob shot) in slow motion. :D Thanks for the awesome idea!
MaDMaNMaRz
08-22-2007, 09:07 AM
(and maybe every boob shot)
Now THERE'S an idea. :) :drool:
SmiTheReeNs*
08-22-2007, 02:56 PM
This idea is why i watch every film now and then. Watching Jason kill in slo-mo is kool!:doggy:
girlychaos
08-22-2007, 08:56 PM
I had no idea it was going to be a "new thing" for so many of you guys! Some death scenes look kinda stupid in slow motion though. But most of the ones I watched this way look really awesome anyway....you should definitely check!
The Dream Master
08-23-2007, 12:29 AM
I watch Andy's death in slow motion mostly to gain an appreciation for what the effects guys did to achieve the effect--you don't really get to see it otherwise because the cut is so fast (due to the MPAA's restrictions and Paramount's unwillingness to find uncut footage, I guess).
So in a way we create our own uncut versions of the films in Paramount's and the MPAA's face! Whoever first came up with this slow-mo idea is a certified genius!
The Dream Master
08-23-2007, 12:53 AM
I'm shocked more people haven't done this with Andy's death in particular. Whenever I watched it before (on VHS or TV), I always wondered what it would be like if I could actually see what's going on in that quick shot. DVD enabled that (gotta love slow-motion).
I am suprised that I have not thought of that myself. God bless this community. :lol:
Other great slow-mo deaths muct be Axle and Jimbo in Friday 4.
Deathscythe
08-23-2007, 01:03 AM
I might just rent Part 3-D now to see Andys death in slow motion, haha.
girlychaos
08-23-2007, 01:25 AM
I'm shocked more people haven't done this with Andy's death in particular. Whenever I watched it before (on VHS or TV), I always wondered what it would be like if I could actually see what's going on in that quick shot. DVD enabled that (gotta love slow-motion).
Yeah....exactly what I said a few posts above! I had no idea this would be new to so many members! I don't even remember the first time I did that, but I tend to do it very often. Most of part 3's deaths are way better in slow motion.
The Tall Man
08-23-2007, 03:28 AM
I'm shocked more people haven't done this with Andy's death in particular. Whenever I watched it before (on VHS or TV), I always wondered what it would be like if I could actually see what's going on in that quick shot. DVD enabled that (gotta love slow-motion).
"DVD"? You didn't have slo-mo (or at least frame advance) on your VCRs???! :shock:
T.M.
The Dream Master
08-23-2007, 03:29 AM
It's possible, but I never took advantage of it like I did on DVD.
SmiTheReeNs*
08-23-2007, 01:54 PM
Freeze frame and slo-mo was key in Part 3 big time..freeze frame cuz i wanted to see Jasons face in the clothesline scene to dam dark and quick, slo-mo for the kill scenes and in the end when Jason pulls off the hock..had to see Jasons handsome face with the freeze frame haha:dance:
girlychaos
08-24-2007, 03:46 AM
Yeah....I've done it too! It looks great...! :)
Nancy Thompson
08-29-2007, 12:27 PM
I also have done it.
ADDED:
"DVD"? You didn't have slo-mo (or at least frame advance) on your VCRs???! :shock:
T.M.
There is slo-mom on VCR'S? I only though that on DVDS
The Tall Man
08-29-2007, 11:34 PM
All my VCRs have had slow-mo (and I've gone through LOTS). I'm shocked you guys didn't know about it.
T.M.
sCabbOy
08-29-2007, 11:54 PM
When he jumps down before he attacks Ali you can barely see his face in slo mo- same with the Chris attack.
All VCRs should have slow mo. Usually on the remote, but some are by hitting FFD a couple times.
Darth Sinister
08-30-2007, 03:18 AM
Some VCR's, the ones in the 90's had slow motion. My mom did, but I never used it on Friday The 13th. I only used it for "Highlander" to see how the Prize looked and for the infamous beaver shot in "Basic Instinct".
The Dream Master
08-30-2007, 03:24 AM
I know pretty much every VCR I ever encountered had the feature. I just never used it much until DVD because it seemed like it worked a lot better with DVD.
Utellme
08-30-2007, 03:29 AM
Freeze frame and slo-mo was key in Part 3 big time..freeze frame cuz i wanted to see Jasons face in the clothesline scene to dam dark and quick, slo-mo for the kill scenes and in the end when Jason pulls off the hock..had to see Jasons handsome face with the freeze frame haha:dance:
Even with slow motion or freeze frame can you tell what Jason's face looks like in that clothesline scene ? What about Jason's face in Chris's flashback scene can you get a good look at Jason's face ?
The Tall Man
08-30-2007, 04:24 AM
Utellme, depends on your television.
T.M.
girlychaos
08-30-2007, 04:25 AM
I've done it a lot and yeah, you can see Jason's face pretty clear from what I remember. I might do it again soon though.
SmiTheReeNs*
08-30-2007, 01:46 PM
Even with slow motion or freeze frame can you tell what Jason's face looks like in that clothesline scene ? What about Jason's face in Chris's flashback scene can you get a good look at Jason's face ?
Utell in that flashback scene you can see Jasons face for a quick sec but the clothesline scene is prolly the best time to view JV's kisser.
TheCurse
09-03-2007, 05:57 AM
I for one love that grin Ali gives Shelly right before he breaks the window. That scene is priceless. I wish the bikers would have ended up having more scenes (per the script) as well.
I love that whole scene. My favorite is when Ali strolls out of the store and pops open the beer, and seems like he's just enjoying the nice day outside...it's one of those great horror movie moments where a certain character is just enjoying himself, with a carefree feeling, just before something happens that pisses them off (or kills them). It provides a nice balance to the film.
I like how Shelly calmly starts the car and puts it into gear, then knocks over the bikes...he's finally had enough. Then again, with the way he reacted to knocking over the bikes, I've always wondered if he accidentally went into reverse instead of first, because he was nervous seeing Ali standing there, then purposely ran over the bikes later, or if he did both on purpose.
I didn't feel like the bikers were an unnecessary subplot. I thought they were a nice contrast with the Higgins Haven crowd.
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