Lost

[Jason's Storm]

Man, I can't wait for this to come back on. Its going to be a long time coming.

~JS

[Psychoticninja]

Isn't it till next year we have to wait?

[Jason's Storm]

Yea, its a long time coming, because it won't come on until January.

~JS

[Killa Pimp]

Well Not exactly a million, but definitely very long:
if you have the time and don't mind "spoilage" , check the link out.

Also, can't wait for the new season.
This last season after the hiatus was at the best its ever been.

If a fraction of these are true: WOW.

WARNING: LINK MAY CONTAIN POSSIBLE SPOILERS!!!



http://lostrumours.blogspot.com/

[Jason's Storm]

They're already shooting for next season, so, some of it is very possible.

~JS

[FreddyKR]

This show is amazing. I'm going to be sad when it ends. But what we still have 3 more seasons right?

[Toejam]

I hear rumors/gossip that Michael will return for season 4.

[TheShowstoppa]

Toejam: I also heard rumors that the reason he wasn't in the second season was because he was holding out for too much money. Meh.

My girlfriend and I watched these seasons back to back to back this summer. We LOVE the show, and I can't wait until January so I can start DVR'ing these eps.

[Killa Pimp]

Can't wait myself:
I enjoyed the first season quite a bit.
A buddy at work , let me in on it and I bought the season one on DVD before the 2cd season started.

I had watched every ep. before the season Premier and was hooked.

Season 2 was disappointing.

Season 3, IMHO, was the best of the 3. If the next has the same impact as is this one, I'll probably go crazy trying to figure what is going to happen next.

It also needs to come on about an hour earlier.
ADDED:
Some Good Stuff about season 4.

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33466

[MysterioMan007]

Lost returns this Thursday and I can not wait to see it, especially with all the reruns and reality shows clogging up the air.

[Alex DeLarge]

I've become a huge fan. I love each and every one of the seasons and cannot WAIT for Season 4. I just got done watching the entire Third Season and I am pumped for Thursday.:D To be honest, Lost is the only thing I watch and really care about that's going to be affected by the writer's strike... :(

[Killa Pimp]

Thursday cannot get here soon enough!!!!!!!!:shifty:

[Psychoticninja]

Oh wow... i made that post 6 months ago... has it been THAT long without Lost?? Geeez, i need a recap of what happened last season... I would think they owe us THAT much

[Cody]

Last season's finale will be rerun on Wednesday, and I think there is a recap special on right before the season premiere Thursday night.

[Jason's Storm]

is it just me, or does anyone else see a city in the reflection of the island?

~JS

[SoulOnFire]

What's crazy to me is that my daughter was born the day before the third season finale. She's now eight months old. It's kind of mind blowing.

[Jason's Storm]

I'm guessing few if any saw what was written on "Charlie's" hand as he was "swimming" towards the mirror in Hurley's delussion at the police station. It said "They need you".

~JS

[MysterioMan007]

Wow, the season premiere was something else. Charlie's ghost was pretty strange, indeed, because the other mental patient saw him as well.

This was, by far, the best Hurley-centric episode we've ever had, but you could tell there was a lot of setup for later events going on. Also, it appears that Christian Shepard is Jacob, or Jacob has taken his form. Looked like Locke looking out of the cabin at Hurley. I was also intrigued by Hurley's visitor who claimed to have been from Oceanic Airlines. It seems that there's some kind of conspiracy going on. All in all, this was enough to get me rehooked on this show after a long layoff. With the way things are going now, at the conclusion of this show, it will probably have taken over as my favorite show of all-time. It's just so damn addicting.

[Psychoticninja]

Honestly that season premiere had me reeling. There were way too much speculating in there for me to really grasp what's really going on.... Its also really interesting the new viewpoint the show is using, the flashback angle.

Until i watch next week's episode, I can't make any guesses as to what's going on... The two groups split and now Hurley's saying that it was a mistake for him to go with that group.... Damn you John Locke.... And another thing, the season finale when he had the beard, that would mean when he was crying to Kate it was further down than it was in this episode... I'm not sure if i'm saying this correctly. The season finale at the end with Jack & Kate, with Jack wanting to go back, wasn't that scene further along than what we saw with Hurley? Because Jack was saying he was thinking of growing a beard, so that would mean he never grew it out.... Am i right?

[MysterioMan007]

Until i watch next week's episode, I can't make any guesses as to what's going on... The two groups split and now Hurley's saying that it was a mistake for him to go with that group.... Damn you John Locke.... And another thing, the season finale when he had the beard, that would mean when he was crying to Kate it was further down than it was in this episode... I'm not sure if i'm saying this correctly. The season finale at the end with Jack & Kate, with Jack wanting to go back, wasn't that scene further along than what we saw with Hurley? Because Jack was saying he was thinking of growing a beard, so that would mean he never grew it out.... Am i right?

You're right, I believe. Jack had no intentions of ever going back to the island in Hurley's flashforward and didn't seem to be haunted all that much by whatever happened, only bothered a little. My guess is that similar things will start happening to Jack that hapened to Hurley and that will send him into the state we saw at the end of S3.

As for some Locke speculation, I can't get the images of Marlon Brando's character from Apocalypse Now out of my head as to where his character is headed. He's growing more and more obsessed with being "the leader" that he's not even worried about what everyone else wants. His "special connection" to Jacob is only going to give him more power on the island and pretty soon, Ben will be out of power with The Others. I see a tragic end for this enigmatic character, but I'm so loving the journey getting there.

[Psychoticninja]

You're right, I believe. Jack had no intentions of ever going back to the island in Hurley's flashforward and didn't seem to be haunted all that much by whatever happened, only bothered a little. My guess is that similar things will start happening to Jack that hapened to Hurley and that will send him into the state we saw at the end of S3.

As for some Locke speculation, I can't get the images of Marlon Brando's character from Apocalypse Now out of my head as to where his character is headed. He's growing more and more obsessed with being "the leader" that he's not even worried about what everyone else wants. His "special connection" to Jacob is only going to give him more power on the island and pretty soon, Ben will be out of power with The Others. I see a tragic end for this enigmatic character, but I'm so loving the journey getting there.

We're saying that Locke has a special connection to Jacob, but what about Hurley. When he approached the cabin, the fact it reacted to him, didnt it mean he interacted with Jacob somewhat? And the Others have been disbanded haven't they? Or would they automatically fall into Locke's group?

I'm not sure WTF is going on with Locke. What I really want to understand is WHY Jack and they miss the island so much now... that's what bothering me. And are the people really evil like Jacob is saying? The ones who got communicated via radio :rolleyes:

And ANOTHER question, i cant remember what the woman on the screen said when Charlie contacted her on the sub. Who was she and what did she say? I'm trying to remember the relevance of them(well him) contacting her

Lost is VERY confusing, this is why i didnt want to speculate:mad:

[Darth Sinister]

They're not missing the island. Jack and Hurley realize that they do need to go back. But Hurley doesn't want to go back because of what happened to Charlie, along with whatever else happened. And my guess is that Jack started to see either Charlie or his father. Jack's flash forward was a couple of years later as he is using a cell phone that came out in 2006. Kate, on the other hand, doesn't appear to be as affected.

[Jason's Storm]

Anyone else notice what Hurley was saying in his flash forward. He said I'm one of the Oceanianic six... Does this mean only six people made it off the island? And if so, what happened to everyone else?

~JS

[ZPowers]

Anyone else notice what Hurley was saying in his flash forward. He said I'm one of the Oceanianic six... Does this mean only six people made it off the island? And if so, what happened to everyone else?

~JS

JS, yeah, I'm certain it means that only six people came back from the Island, or at least six people who were originally on the flight (which means Desmond, Juliet, Rousseau another Other could not be included in that group). We know that this includes Jack, Kate, Hurley, and possibley whoever was in that coffin, Michael, and Walt (if they ever made it home or if they're counted among the six).

[MysterioMan007]

Anyone else notice what Hurley was saying in his flash forward. He said I'm one of the Oceanianic six... Does this mean only six people made it off the island? And if so, what happened to everyone else?

~JS
Several spoilers have been released that state Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sayid, Jin, and Sun are the Oceanic Six.

As for their reasoning for going back, Charlie keeps telling Hurley that "They need you" in both his ghostly appearance at the asylum and when Hurley saw him in the two-way mirror at the police station (it was written on his hand like "Not Penny's Boat" was in last year's finale. My guess is that they left some people behind and that they're feeling guilty about it.

And ANOTHER question, i cant remember what the woman on the screen said when Charlie contacted her on the sub. Who was she and what did she say? I'm trying to remember the relevance of them(well him) contacting her

The woman on the screen was Penny Widmore. She was Desmond's girlfriend before he got to the island and she has apparently been looking for him since he disappeared while racing Libby's boat around the world. In island time, she was last seen before this when the first hatch blew up and turned the sky purple. Some guys monitoring the electromagnetic energy contacted her and told her that they had "found it".

During the transmission to the Looking Glass, Penny told Charlie that Naomi was not someone she sent to look for him, even though Naomi claimed it to be so. Therefore, Charlie and Desmond knew something was off and with Ben's warnings adding feul to the fire, a lot of the Losties are wondering whether or not the "rescuers" can be trusted.

[TheShowstoppa]

There's also been speculation that The Oceanic 6 were given the Gold Pass and given money under the terms that they said they were the only survivors of 815.

Those of you who have missed it, you all need to check out this season's ARG at www.find815.com. It's awesome and you're also learning MUCH about this season in general.

It seems right now through that ARG that we learn that Penny Whidmore's father Charles has covered up the disappearance of flight 815 so that no one else goes looking for them. It also ties into this week's episode as the boat mentioned in the episode is the boat a good portion of this story takes place on.

[Psychoticninja]

What do you mean when you say this season's ARG?

[TheShowstoppa]

Viral Marketing. It's also called an ARG.

[Cody]

Post-strike (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i11eaec8a171fba490a94641db940a432)

Cuse said he's happy with the outcome of the strike and can't wait to go back to his day job on "Lost."

"We're going to have to hit the ground running, go from zero to 100 mph in a matter of days to make as many episodes as possible," he said.

The goal for Cuse and co-showrunner Damon Lindelof is to produce five more episodes this season, a tall order given the time constraints and the scope of storytelling and production on "Lost." Even with five additional hours, Cuse and Lindelof will be three episodes short of the premapped fourth season.

"We will have to condense some stories," Cuse said.

[DrLar]

As long as they don't ruin it, 5 more episodes are alright

[TheShowstoppa]

As long as they don't ruin it? I want the other 3 fuckin' episodes we were supposed to get! Either that or next season better start 3 weeks earlier and last 3 weeks longer. We were promised (I believe) 4 more seasons of 16 episodes a season. Let's make sure we're not getting fucked hard by this, because it's going to be another long ass wait for lost if it ends early.

[Cody]

We were promised (I believe) 4 more seasons of 16 episodes a season.

The plan was 3 seasons of 16.

[TheShowstoppa]

Then nonetheless... I want what I've already invested in. I want those other 3 episodes! There could be so much more we're not going to learn or we'll never see because of those 3 hours.

I know I'm being melodramatic, but still - I really do want those episodes.

[Spade]

I always feel like a bit of an oddball for not liking this show. Maybe I'll try to give it another chance.

[TheShowstoppa]

This episode =

F.U.C.K.I.N.G. B.R.I.L.L.I.A.N.T.!!!!!!

I absolutely LOVE the direction this season is going and thank god the damn strike is over. Now that I've watched the episode - off to bed before I post my thoughts.

[Darth Sinister]

Then nonetheless... I want what I've already invested in. I want those other 3 episodes! There could be so much more we're not going to learn or we'll never see because of those 3 hours.

I know I'm being melodramatic, but still - I really do want those episodes.

Well, blame contracts for being the issue. ABC has to honor the contracts for all the characters when it comes to going on hiatus for the summer. That's why odds are unless all the actors agree to go past the usual shut down date, what's announced is it for this season.

[girlychaos]

I always feel like a bit of an oddball for not liking this show. Maybe I'll try to give it another chance.

I really think you should. The show is addicting...everytime I watch it I get kinda mad/anxious/excited...all kinds of things cause I can't wait to see what's gonna happen next, lol.

[Killa Pimp]

I was talking with some people at work today and they were saying that they thought at the end of last night's episode, when you couldn't tell who was helping /directing Sayid with his bullet wound, that it would have been cool for it to have been Christian Shepherd

Of course that would have been a "jump the shark" moment.

But on a serious note,
Who thinks Ben's spy on the freighter is Michael?

[ZPowers]

I'm really glad that they revealed who was helping Sayid at the end of last night's ep, because I could tell from the voice it was Ben (it was only a little altered before the reveal) and I imagine a lot of fans could also tell.

[Psychoticninja]

I honestly couldn't tell. I was surprised! Good thing i watched the last 3 minutes! Your theory about how its Michael, i'm not sure about. Why would Michael want to re-involve himself with the island? Unless Ben made him some kind of secret deal we don't know about

[The 5th Golden Girl]

I just started watching Lost. People told me I'd like it, and while I didn't disagree with them, I felt I needed to start at the beginning and catch up before I just tuned in to the new season. Oddly enough, I never seemed to have time to watch my sister's Lost DVDs because all my other shows were on. However, thanks to the writer's strike, my shows have all gone off, so I finally found myself with time on my hands and nothing new to watch.

I watched the first season in one week, and I enjoyed it, but I wasn't really hooked. However, I really got into the second season and ended up plowing through the entire season in one weekend... we're talking six episodes a night. That's both a indicator of how much I enjoyed the second season and a sad commentary on my non-existant social life.

Unfortunately, my sister doesn't have the season three DVDs, but I managed to find some online sites with links to the season three episodes. I haven't really been able to get into seaosn three thus far, but I'm only on episode 6. I'm trying to get through it, though, as my sister said the season gets a lot better towards the end.

Needless to say, I've yet to watch any of season 4. I'm anxious and yet weary of being caught up. On one hand, I'll be able to talk to my sisters and my brother about the show as it happens. Right now I'm full of stuff I'd like to talk about, but I'm three years too late. On the other hand, I'm not looking forward to being in the same boat with those who have to wait a whole week for a new episode, and then wait 7-8 months for the new season to begin.

I'll be more active in this thread once I catch up and get on the same page as everyone else. Enjoy the season, folks, I'll be with you soon enough.

[girlychaos]

I first started watching Lost when the DVD's were out (season 1 and 2)...I got so addicted that I couldn't wait to see what was gonna happen next. So, I watched both season really fast. I saw season 3 but I liked 1 and 2 better.

I haven't watched any episodes of season 4 yet...I'm looking forward to it, but I'm not as "desperate" about it as I used to be, lol.

[Psychoticninja]

I KNEW IT! I KNEW IT! I kneeeewww it! It was from that scene when she was talking to Claire earlier, I was thinking... why does it seem that she'll take that kid from her.... But, as the episode progressed, i forgot my suspicion and i was actually thinking that the baby would've come out chineese or something or black :P. My mind was racing as to if the baby would really be Sawyer's. I have to say, that episode's ending was pretty interesting as always!

[girlychaos]

Gosh, I so want to read that....but I won't. Need to be strong, lol.

[Darth Sinister]

I don't think she takes Clarie's baby so much as maybe Clarie dies and she has to take custody. And perhaps Jack knows that Clarie is his half sister. Which would make him uncomfortable.

[The 5th Golden Girl]

I'm all caught up. Getting through Season Three was a tad painful as many of the earlier episodes were really boring. I don't know what to think of this season, though. The whole "flash forward" thing seems more like "this is our last season" thing, but apparently there are two more seasons after this one? I don't know how they'll be able to sustain the story for 40 more episodes.

Also, I don't care for the division of the castaways, and I fuckin' hate Ben. We'll see where this goes, I guess.

Now that I'm caught up, I'm playing the waiting game with other fans now. It sucks.

[Psychoticninja]

I got REALLY pissed @ Lost tonight. I mean, yeah i know you just can't give out all of the secrets, but the whole issue with who was on the boat was really really important to me And im thinking, WTF! They didn't tell us. But according to the preview next week they say its someone you didnt expect to see.... So, im wondering if the speculation of how it is Michael is true....

[The 5th Golden Girl]

I loved the episode last week dealing with Desmond, but last night's episode was boring to me. I just don't care about Juliet or the Others, and I loathe Ben.

And I really hope the man on the boat isn't who I (and everyone else) think it is. I'd love for it to be someone completely unpredictable, like Boone or Shannon, haha.

[Toejam]

So <--Jin--> is dead. My second favorite character.:sniffle:
At least we weren't told how it happens. I would assume
he will survive on the island but all bets are off once they are "rescued".
or
maybe, he stays behind on the island and Sun has to pretend he is dead.

Next weeks episode is supposed to show us some of what has happened
to Michael between the end of the second season and now. Should be good.

[The 5th Golden Girl]

The "man on the boat" reveal was so anticlimactic. Everyone I know who watches the show thought it was him, and it was. Even my Mom, who doesn't watch the show, somehow knew it was supposed to be him (but then again she watches a lot of E!, so she probably saw something about it on there).

I saw the ending of this episode coming as soon as Sun thought the man in the hallway was Jin. The flashback vs. flashforward stuff surprised me, but since nothing is ever as it seems on this show, I knew Jin and Sun weren't together anymore during the labor.

I didn't think Jin would be dead, though. I personally think he's dead because why would she go to a tombstone and do the whole grieving schtick if he was alive and they were just faking his death? If he's not dead, then she certainly doesn't know he's alive.

Also, don't let the date on the tombstone fool you. It says 9-22-2004, the date of the crash, but remember... the Oceanic Six are lying about what happened on the island for some reason and saying that only eight of them survived the crash, and only six were rescued. Just because they're pretending he died in the crash doesn't mean they're pretending he died; it just means if he dies, they have to say he died in the crash to go along with the lie they're telling.

[Darth Sinister]

No offense, but what made anyone think that Michael wasn't Ben's man on the boat? It's pretty much the only way to bring him back into the story.

[The 5th Golden Girl]

I don't mind if it is him, but they telegraphed it horribly. After three seasons (of course, I watched all the episodes of three seasons within a one month span), I expect more from the show in the "Surprise!" department.

If they had revealed him at the end of the episode in which Ben says "I have a man on the boat," maybe it would have been more surprising, but they waited weeks and kept building to it, and it was just blah when it happened.

Then again, maybe he ISN'T Ben's man on the boat. If that's the case, the story may still have legs.

[TheShowstoppa]

The writers are really good at pulling the "Hey, you think what you thought was right, and we strayed you that way, but really, you're WRONG!" card. I wouldn't be surprised if the aformentioned character would not be Ben's man on the boat.

[The 5th Golden Girl]

:(

Danielle had better not be dead. She's one of my favorite characters. Damn it, stop killing my favorite characters! The way this is going, poor Daniel Faraday is a goner.

Why can't I pretend to like Ben for, like, a day, so he can die already?

[ZPowers]

:(


Why can't I pretend to like Ben for, like, a day, so he can die already?

I don't think you're intended to like him, since he's, you know, the main antagonist of the show.

[Killa Pimp]

:(

Danielle had better not be dead. She's one of my favorite characters. Damn it, stop killing my favorite characters! The way this is going, poor Daniel Faraday is a goner.

Why can't I pretend to like Ben for, like, a day, so he can die already?

Hell, at the rate they are going:
The final episode of the series will be a recap show with Jack and Kate reminiscing about their time on the island

[Cody]

From 16 to 13, now the season might end up with 14 episodes -

Ausiello Report (http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/Ausiello-Scoop-Lost/800037127)

According to one of my 815 snitches, Team Darlton is in advanced talks with ABC to produce — wait for it, wait for it — an additional hour of Lost this season!

[The crowd roars]

Now, before you go French-kissing a total stranger out of sheer elation, my source stresses that this is by no means a done deal. In fact, the scheduling hurdles alone are enough to make a grown man cry. But you have to admit, the prospect of a 14th hour is a tantalizing one. And it raises so darn many questions. For instance:

- If the dream becomes a reality, how would it work? As it stands, Lost's Season 4 climax is slated to air on May 22 on a season-finale-themed night that also includes the cappers of Ugly Betty and Grey's Anatomy. So would the additional Lost hour be broadcast the following Thursday? Or would it perhaps run on another night?

- What does this do to the finale that was going to air on May 22? Would elements of it be incorporated into the new finale? Would this 14th hour come before that episode? And since we were originally supposed to get 16 eppies this season before the strike cut that number back to 13, does this mean we would now be getting a season finale that is more in line with what Darlton intended? Or more exposition that they ran out of time to include? The mind boggles.

So what do you think, people? And where does the line for the 14th-hour prayer group form? I'm in.

And a nifty video that recaps the first 3 seasons in 2 minutes -

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[The 5th Golden Girl]

I have mixed feelings about last night's episode. First and foremost, I was absolutely shocked when Alex was killed. Everything about that scene shocked me.

I suspected that Claire wouldn't die in the explosion because she has yet to wrap up any of the Charlie stuff (the ring he left, the list he made for her, etc.), but now I'm getting worried that they won't even go back to any of that stuff and let that be a nagging loose end.

It's no secret that I can't stand Ben, and not just in a "he's the villain of the show, so I don't like him" way. I don't like how he has monopolized the show. Tonight was basically the Ben show with cameo appearances by the Losties. Fine, he's necessary to the overall plot, but my God give it a rest every once in a while. After having watched all the other seasons and gotten to know everyone else, am I really supposed to give a damn about Ben and Whitmore bickering over the island and a threat against Penny, who I haven't even really gotten to know yet, at the end of last night's episode?

I don't think I like the sci-fi direction the show is going in. As much of a fan of fiction, fantasy, and the occasional sci-fi I am, I tend to be a realist when it comes to "real" human beings in stories; I like for there to be human explanations to mysteries and the like. I'll have to give the series a good, long look when its all said and done and see how it turns out, but now that we're actually seeing a lot of what was left mysterious in the first two seasons, I'm not really caring for it. Everytime I see the smoke monster now, I kind of cringe. I'm in the middle of a human drama/action adventure, and here comes some really bad (I'm talking Sci-Fi-Channel-original-movie-bad) CGI smoke monster.

[jayTL]

I really supposed to give a damn about Ben and Whitmore bickering over the island and a threat against Penny, who I haven't even really gotten to know yet, at the end of last night's episode?



Short answer-yes.

[Cody]

My damn was given. I'm invested in the Desmond/Penny relationship.

[The 5th Golden Girl]

Oh, great. Now "What?" doesn't sound like a real word to me anymore.

Funny video, Cody.

[Cody]

'Lost' adds hours (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3if1d4beff617a2bbe20e35608c75f9342)

ABC has found more hours for the final two seasons of "Lost."

The 2009 and 2010 editions of the hit drama will be 17 hours each -- not 16 as previously planned.

ABC has added two hours to the show's production plan because the WGA strike knocked three hours out of the current season. To partly compensate, the network recently added an additional hour to Part 2 of the season finale that airs May 29.

All told, the changes will wrap up the show with the same number of episodes that producers and ABC negotiated last year.

"We were supposed to do 16-16-16," "Lost" co-creator Damon Lindelof said. "But we ended up doing 14 this season, so we owe two."

Lindelof, however, ruled out the show extending beyond the remaining 34-episode order.

"(Executive producer) Carlton Cuse and I worked so hard to get the show to end that I think to suddenly say, 'Oh, I think we got another season in us' would be a betrayal to everybody involved in the show -- but most of all the audience," he said. "It's better to retire your number at the top of your game."

For the upcoming season finale, Lindelof promised a more action-driven cliffhanger instead of the mind-bending flash-forward time shift that stunned fans last season.

"The finale this year will not be as tricky as last year," he said. "Hopefully, this year it's a little bit more of a straightforward action-adventure narrative. But the ending of the episode will hopefully engage and intrigue people looking forward to the next season of the show."

Lindelof declined to say whether the flash forwards will continue, but did leave open the possibility of the show's main story line on the island catching up with the flash forwards that have taken place on the mainland this season.

"It's very exciting that the audience is going to be wondering when is the present going to be (next season)," he said. "We've moved backward in time, now we've moved forward in time. The present of the show has always been on the island -- that may not necessarily be the case in the future."

When it comes time to air the series finale in 2010, Lindelof said he and Cuse plan to "go into hiding for many, many months" at an "undisclosed location."

"David Chase set a great example when he went off to Paris after 'The Sopranos' ending, which is great because all these people are going to be asking, 'What does it mean? What is it?' " he said. "The fact that there's no one really around to answer that question, it forces people to come up with what they think it means. We can guarantee our show will not end with a cut to black, it will be more clear than that. But whenever anything you love ends ... there's a certain disappointment."

[Psychoticninja]

Anyone's thoughts on Part 1 of the season finale?

I'm not going to lie, this season of Lost felt like this season of Heroe's. A rushed mess. Too much stuff is going on that's leaving the viewers like... where are you going with this... like the Time Travel aspect and the whole Jacob thing. I think they're trying to accomplish too much with not much time... Who knows probaly when we get the big explanation everything will make sense .. but for now, i'm just like... why are the giving us more questions instead of more answers!!

[Alex DeLarge]

I disagree. This has been my favorite season so far. I'm perfectly content with more questions than answers as long as two years from now, when the show finally ends, we know the JIST of what it all means. Not EVERYTHING, some things have to be left to the viewers imagination, but the main ones. When it comes to television shows and especially Lost, which we know they planned out this way, I'm perfectly content with being baffled until the last few episodes of the last season.

[Psychoticninja]

For me Alex, i really have a problem with being baffled, especially when we've been baffled for seasons. I mean, if they gave some closure on some stuff, then no problem! Like the smog monster or whatever, what happened with that! Yes, we did get some answers in terms of the Dharma Initiave and stuff, but to me as soon as we got some answers, we got 3 more questions to go with it.

But, i guess that's just my perspective though. Looking forward to part 2 to see how they wrap up the season finale. And was it just me or was everyone else NOT surprised when it was revealed Claire was Jack's sister?

[Alex DeLarge]

For me Alex, i really have a problem with being baffled, especially when we've been baffled for seasons. I mean, if they gave some closure on some stuff, then no problem! Like the smog monster or whatever, what happened with that! Yes, we did get some answers in terms of the Dharma Initiave and stuff, but to me as soon as we got some answers, we got 3 more questions to go with it.

I have no problem with that. As Agatha Christie said in a recent episode of Doctor Who, "The thrill is in the chase, never in the capture." When they reveal mysteries, they HAVE to introduce three more in order to keep people interested.

[Darth Sinister]

For me Alex, i really have a problem with being baffled, especially when we've been baffled for seasons. I mean, if they gave some closure on some stuff, then no problem! Like the smog monster or whatever, what happened with that! Yes, we did get some answers in terms of the Dharma Initiave and stuff, but to me as soon as we got some answers, we got 3 more questions to go with it.

But, i guess that's just my perspective though. Looking forward to part 2 to see how they wrap up the season finale. And was it just me or was everyone else NOT surprised when it was revealed Claire was Jack's sister?

Considering we've known for quite a while, it was beyond obvious. As to the issue of answers, some answers I think are connected to the main story in such a way, that if they answer them now, it'll give away the ending.

[Psychoticninja]

The ending of Lost... lol, i still have no idea how they're going to end this thing. Because we thought it'd end with them getting off the island, but nope, that isn't it. Its something far bigger. Charles Withmore.... moving the island.... my oh my ... Everyone still ruled out the theory they're in purgatory :D?

[The 5th Golden Girl]

Well, it seems everyone else on other sites I frequent is falling all over themselves to call the finale brilliant, but I just didn't like it. At all.

Methinks this show just isn't for me. Shame. I really did like seasons 1 and 2, and 3 got pretty good towards the end of the season.

[Cody]

It wasn't as awesome as the season 3 finale, but I liked it. Bonus that I finally get to see Locke dead! Yes! Now kill Ben! Things are gonna be really shook up next season.

[TheShowstoppa]

FUCK FUCK FUCK!!!!

I totally forgot the season finale was tonight and I'm now 4 episodes behind schedule. Dammit. Oh well... time to catch up.

[Psychoticninja]

The season finale... .wow oh wow.... I have to say, watching that 2 hour long finale i FINALLY started to appreciate this season and all of the crazy twists they were throwing at us and i really like the direction they're heading. While still everyone has a bagful of questions AND now we have even more questions! e.g. Is the island really magical now? Because before it was speculation, now its fact... And what about the mysterious Christian Shepard. The more i see his character, the more he baffles me. And in the season finale, Michael saw him just before the explosion... he creeps me out....

But, I digress from my point! I like the angle they're going at where now that we've caught up to the present they now have to go back to the island after 3 years. Who KNOWS what happened on the island and i think in the upcoming season we're going to get some definitive answers about the island. The season finale left me with a sense of ... yeah, that WAS a good finale

[TheShowstoppa]

Okay - everything up and just past the island disappearing was amazing. However... That part could have easily been the corniest and dumbest thing I have seen from the show yet.

www.octagonglobalrecruitment.com - NEW Viral marketing site. Jump in! They say they're going to be in San Diego June 24 - 27th... Isn't that the same time as THE COMIC CON?!

For those of you who want to know what it is, highlight: It has something to do with The Dharma Initiative. Says so on the site. Can't BELIEVE no one caught this.

Ending of this season though was amazing.

[ZPowers]

Finally watched. The main action seems to NEED to jump forward in time by three or so years, or will after another couple episodes, and I think that means they can bring Walt back into the main action/explain his weird powers without puberty being quite such a problem. As for Jack's dad, I'm not sure if that thing we keep seeing is his dad, per se. Part of it may be Jack's dad, but I think it's clear it's just a form Jacob is taking.. Finally, I'm miffed about Locke. He was one of my, if not my very favorite character. However, I'm betting he'll appear some next season pre-death or in some kind of flashback. Also... John has a weird connection to the island, we know this, and it tends to loooove healing him from paralysis and potentially fatal bullet wounds. I wonder, if he's going back (Ben seemed to insist he NEEDED to)... is he staying dead?
ADDED:
Oh, two other things the finale made me wonder about...

Clearly Sun is joining with Widmore to get Ben. John must have told her Ben killed commando Dan and blew the boat. I thought Bentham would be Ben, killed by Widmore and Sun, but I guess not. My guess is that Locke told Sun about Ben blowing the ship when he visited everyone (since only he knew)

Also, Daniel and that gang of people he was bringing back to the boat. Were they close enough to be transported with the island? If not they clearly haven't been rescued yet, since those people were Oceanic survivors. Which means that maybe Daniel HAS been rescued, but the other folks haven't. If they aren't with the island, everyone on that boat but Daniel is probably dead (they were non-characters anyways. Maybe he ate them), and maybe him too.

[Cody]

I think Locke will still be around for the remainder of the series. Three years of bad stuff on the island, his visits to everybody, and who knows what kind of Weekend at Bernie's shenanigans when they get his corpse back to the island.

[Psychoticninja]

I think Locke will still be around for the remainder of the series. Three years of bad stuff on the island, his visits to everybody, and who knows what kind of Weekend at Bernie's shenanigans when they get his corpse back to the island.

HA HA HA HAAAA!! I could actually see that happening :shy:

[Darth Sinister]

Brand new Dr. Marvin Candle video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dn_dNsaz-AA&feature=related

[FreddyKR]

That...was...AWESOME

[Psychoticninja]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxfKGFTcZqw this is a high quality version of it

Wow lost. And i love those Dharma initiative videos. Dr. Marvin Candle rocks..

[Demon]

I didn't think i would like this show but this is my favorite show on tv.

[sCabbOy]

I absolutely love this show. I can not read through this because my Wife and I rent and we just started Season 4 on DVD.

However, I think it gets a little corny at times but generally recovers with a good explanation for things.

[AmonStone]

I've never seen the show. Any good?

[FreddyKR]

Yes, it's amazing. You should watch the new season when it begins in January. However, you may be a little lost...hehe. Try and rent all the previous seasons...you won't be dissapointed with the show

[Demon]

Can't wait i hope we see tom again he was a creepy other.

[DrLar]

Man you guys are surely way behind...

I still don't know what the heck happened to Claire...

[TheShowstoppa]

Dude... This has been on for a month and I have yet to see a single damn episode. o_O Oops.

[sCabbOy]

Rent them, haha
That's what I do as I never catch them on TV. I would DVR but then I'd watch them all in one day and then feel really guilty.

[Demon]

I just buy the seasons when they come out i paid 30.00 for season 4 not to bad

[sCabbOy]

That is not bad.

I will eventually buy now as Season 1 is my alltime favorite and will always be.

I'em still on episode 4 season 4, this is a short season so I will be on Season 5 soon!

[Demon]

I only buy a few select series

simpsons family guy south park he-man she ra gi-joe walker texas ranger etc mostly cartoons

But i did get the whole everybody loves raymond series brand new for 70.00 free ship

[DrLar]

don't worry they always re-air the last episode just before the new episode with explanation pop-ups...

I think on ABC.com you can view past episoded also.. (and maybe Hulu old episodes)

[stevinj]

not too impressed with the new season

[Toejam]

not too impressed with the new season

Why not?

I think it has been excellent, the only episode I didn't think was top notch was the second episode, and it was still pretty good.

It is awesome how the show has evolved so much it.
Unlike a lot of shows, Lost is constantly changing. That might piss people off if they want the same stuff over and over. I think it is very fresh and hope they can keep it up.

[HiCkMaN!]

i missed last half of season 3 and the whole of 4 because the channel they were playing the show on got cut off from our cable, we just got it back n season 5 started....i dont have a fucking clue whats going on haha

[Toejam]

A whole lotta shit has changed since then, for sure.

[HiCkMaN!]

haha i noticed

[Hypnocil]

It is awesome how the show has evolved so much it.
Unlike a lot of shows, Lost is constantly changing. That might piss people off if they want the same stuff over and over. I think it is very fresh and hope they can keep it up.

Couldn't agree more. The fact that the show continually evolves and progresses to new levels and themes is what makes this show so great...BUT the show never forgets where it came from.

They shouldn't have a problem keeping the show interesting now, since they know where they're going with it. Now that the show is FINALLY throwing us answers left and right, I feel so happy as a fan. I don't see why this trend shouldn't continue till the end. They know there are LOTS of questions still. :p

[Psychoticninja]

Did anyone see this season finale? It was beautiful...

[Killa Pimp]

Shit was Epic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

last 10 minutes were the best 10 minutes of tv I have seen in awhile

I was like :confused::duh::(
at the Locke reveal

it made since when Richard asked jack if john was special, because when he Had visited him several times when John was younger and Richard once visited and asked john to identify which item belonged to Richards and John got it wrong it was because "Loophole " John hadn't put the plan in motion. i thought How they Showed something so insignificant a few seasons ago to how it ties into the overall scheme of things is crazy

Of course it raised about 10 more questions, but hopefully we will have a killer next season and maybe a movie.

[SoulOnFire]

One of the greatest things about the finale? Sawyer's insane ballkick on Jack. That was a thing of beauty.:sniffle:

[Darth Sinister]

Shit was Epic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

last 10 minutes were the best 10 minutes of tv I have seen in awhile

I was like :confused::duh::(
at the Locke reveal

it made since when Richard asked jack if john was special, because when he Had visited him several times when John was younger and Richard once visited and asked john to identify which item belonged to Richards and John got it wrong it was because "Loophole " John hadn't put the plan in motion. i thought How they Showed something so insignificant a few seasons ago to how it ties into the overall scheme of things is crazy

Of course it raised about 10 more questions, but hopefully we will have a killer next season and maybe a movie.


Uh, that was never John Locke when he was back on the island. John was special in that Jacob's old enemy could recreate his body to use to get at Jacob. That was the loophole. Using John Locke to make Ben kill Jacob. The real Locke would never do that. Everything that happened with Locke since coming to the island was the Enemy's plan the whole time. And I bet that he was the one in the cabin who said, "Help Me". Not Jacob.

[Killa Pimp]

Uh, that was never John Locke when he was back on the island. John was special in that Jacob's old enemy could recreate his body to use to get at Jacob. That was the loophole. Using John Locke to make Ben kill Jacob. The real Locke would never do that. Everything that happened with Locke since coming to the island was the Enemy's plan the whole time. And I bet that he was the one in the cabin who said, "Help Me". Not Jacob.

Yeah, that's what i meant by calling the other guy "loophole" john.

Regular JohnDead as hell
Loophole John walking around running the show now

I guess i meant that its a shame that Locke was really just a pawn , after all his life thinking he was special, he was just being used the whole time and even got convinced that he had to die

tragic

[Psychoticninja]

I actually never though about that Darth. The whole person in the cabin saying 'Help me' being the unknown enemy.

Anyone has any speculations on what could POSSIBLY happen to the Losties that's stuck back in time, now that Juliette detonated the bomb/mini nuke?

I'm fresh out of ideas

[Alex DeLarge]

I actually never though about that Darth. The whole person in the cabin saying 'Help me' being the unknown enemy.

Makes sense since Illana says "Jacob hasn't been here (the cabin) in a while." That also implies to me that despite what he told Locke, Christian is indeed a pawn of Jacob's enemy not Jacob.

[Darth Sinister]

I actually never though about that Darth. The whole person in the cabin saying 'Help me' being the unknown enemy.

Anyone has any speculations on what could POSSIBLY happen to the Losties that's stuck back in time, now that Juliette detonated the bomb/mini nuke?

I'm fresh out of ideas

They've disappeared because history has changed. They'll be back on the plane and landing in LAX.

[Alex DeLarge]

Maybe. That's why it's a cliffhanger. I doubt they'd go through with all the Jacob-resolutions and fake-Locke stuff if it was all going to be erased from time in the VERY NEXT EPISODE. No, I think more likely, the nuclear bomb will be something that was always meant to happen. Didn't Sayid say in S2 that the hatch was cemented like Chernobyl?

[HiCkMaN!]

anyone know when the final and 6th sesson starts?

also i wonder what Jacob ment when he said there coming..

[Cody]

It's supposed to start in February.

[Darth Sinister]

Maybe. That's why it's a cliffhanger. I doubt they'd go through with all the Jacob-resolutions and fake-Locke stuff if it was all going to be erased from time in the VERY NEXT EPISODE. No, I think more likely, the nuclear bomb will be something that was always meant to happen. Didn't Sayid say in S2 that the hatch was cemented like Chernobyl?

Yes. But it had to do with the incident which according to Daniel was hitting the pocket of electromagnetic energy, not the dentonation of Jughead's warhead.

also i wonder what Jacob ment when he said there coming..

Well, it either means that the Others are coming in there to kick ass or it means that 815 lands in LAX, but somehow Jacob's chosen are drawn back to the island to fulfill their destiny and will crossover onto the island where they crashed from an alternate timeline, one where they didn't crash. Including a John Locke who is alive and pissed off.

[Darth Sinister]

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[MysterioMan007]

I've been waiting and waiting....and waiting for the final season. Only two months to go before the beginning of the end.

[Hockey Mask]

This is the best thing on television. I hope they can keep it up for one more season and give us a satifying ending. I have my concerns but they haven't let me down yet.

[Psychoticninja]

I am VERY excited for Lost the final season. You know what mystery bothers me the most, that bugs me more than Jacob and the enemy? Well now that i think about it, 2 mysteries.

Richard Alpert and Walt.

Richard Alpert - Why does he never age? And he's always there and people treat it likes it normal. It's just like, oh there's Richard Alpert, he's just around :P

Walt - It was hinted alot that he was special and that he had some sort of 'powers'. To me it always seemed he had a greater role to play in this show, but he just ... escaped and he wasn't a major player anymore.

[Hockey Mask]

If I had to guess I would bet they leave the Walt story unresolved. I hope not but I bet they do.

[MysterioMan007]

Yeah, I'm getting the feeling we won't be seeing Walt again, but one of the producers (can't remember which one) said that we would more than likely find out why Walt was "special", but that "he wasn't sure if they actually needed the character of Walt to make that reveal".

I'm doing a rewatch of the series gearing up for the final season. I'm not a big fan of the spoilers I've read, but I have to think that the guys who brought us this far know what they're doing.

[Lance Lives]

I've been watching Season 5 again on Xbox Netflix at work. I'm pretty stoked it's on there 'cause I wanted to see it again really bad but don't have the money to throw down for the set right now.

[Evil_Meanie]

Holy shit, I caught a live stream of a screening of Part 1 of the premiere on a beach in Hawaii last night..and it was amazing. Utterly amazing.

Steplocke is the smoke monster. And flight 815 lands in what I can only assume is either a flash forward to the end of whatever happens on the island this season, (since the island is underwater) or a bizarre alternate reality where Desmond appears and disappears at will. They only showed part 1 of a two parter, and the audience noise and noise from the traffic made pretty much anyone who spoke in a hushed tone totally inaudible. Unfortunately with Lost, that's basically everyone who isn't named Terry O'Quinn. So I didn't hear a lot of scenes, but holy fucking shit it's going to be an amazing closing season, I think.

[Hockey Mask]

Too scared to look under the spoiler tags. But sounds like good news.

[Evil_Meanie]

Don't look! It was a reveal that I had sort of expected, but nothing beats actually seeing it in action. I think that it's one of the best moments in Lost history and I can't wait to see in it glorious HD.

[Evil_Meanie]

Best Season 6 promo ever. Terry O'Quinn narrates!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuISMUoJNw8
ADDED:
What an amazing two parter LA X turned out to be. I think that has to be up there with "Man of Science, Man of Faith" as one of, if not the, strongest premiere of the whole season.

I'm going to be doing a recap after every episode this season on my blog. If anyone is interested, here's the URL. Don't worry, I've no intention of spamming this place with the URL to my blog.

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=446094789&blogId=528121942

[The Gunslinger]

I must say that was one of the best season premieres in the series. I do have a couple of questions though and I'm sure you all do as well. :p

What do you think The Smoke Monster or Man In Black mean't when he wanted to go home? I immediately thought of Lucifer for some reason. Also, I hope I'm not wrong but did they dupilcate themselves?

I'm glad this is the final season. I'm getting tired of all the headaches. :eek:

[Hockey Mask]

Pretty happy with the premiere last night. Looks like they are going to keep us on our toes until the very end. Glad I didn't read Evil's spoiler before. I am guessing they'll be giving us answers throughout the season but still leave everything pretty vague when it's all over.

[Bill 1981]

I've tried to keep up with this show, but (no pun intended) I got lost. After the deal with the Polar Bear,... Yeah...

[Hockey Mask]

After the deal with the Polar Bear,... Yeah...

That was the first episode wasn't it?

[Bill 1981]

I do believe it was...

[Lance Lives]

You got lost pretty early on then...they kinda explained the polar bears.

[Bill 1981]

I tried to watch the show later on...but yeah... Never got hooked into it like the rest of you all here.

[Hockey Mask]

I stopped after the first episode and was sent some bottlegs during that winter break the first season and caught back up and was hooked. It really helps to watch a few in a row before giving up but if you want quick answers it may not be the show for you. DVD really was made for this show. I don't know how many times on those bootlegs I swore it would be the last episode of the night and as soon as the credits rolled I found myself hitting play. Try Netflix.

[Evil_Meanie]

A friend of mine let me borrow his Season 1 DVDs a little over a year ago. I put off watching them for a month, and then I promised him I'd watch through until an episode called "Walkabout," which was only like the 3rd episode of the series. ("Pilot" is a two-parter)

After that episode, I was hooked. And I really was ready to turn it off before I got to "Walkabout."

Terry O'Quinn absolutely makes Lost. Then Michael Emerson shows up later on and elevates the show even further.

[Bill 1981]

Maybe that's what I need to do, invest in the 1st season and go from there. :thinking:

[Lance Lives]

Yeah, I personally was kinda hooked after the pilot, but the more I watched the more engrossed I got in it. I watched through 4 on DVD and was excited as hell to see season 5, even though I had to watch it on iTunes downloads. I've finally got ABC from Directv so that's where I'll be spending my Tuesday nights.

[The Gunslinger]

A friend of mine let me borrow his Season 1 DVDs a little over a year ago. I put off watching them for a month, and then I promised him I'd watch through until an episode called "Walkabout," which was only like the 3rd episode of the series. ("Pilot" is a two-parter)

After that episode, I was hooked. And I really was ready to turn it off before I got to "Walkabout."

Terry O'Quinn absolutely makes Lost. Then Michael Emerson shows up later on and elevates the show even further.

Walkabout is one of the best episodes in the series. That along with Through the Looking Glass, The Constant and A Shape of Things to Come.

[Evil_Meanie]

Yeah, "Walkabout" is some damn good television, that's for sure. The reveal at the end of the episode was brilliantly right in front of our eyes during all of the flashbacks, and I even had my initial suspicions, but I was totally blown away when it was up on screen. The scene with the gripping music playing while Locke stands up on the island is AMAZING.

Some of my favorites are also: "The Man Behind the Curtain", "Dead is Dead", "Follow the Leader", "The Incident", "The Shape of Things to Come", "Flashes Before Your Eyes", and "Two for the Road."

There's so many great episodes in that series, though. I'd have to really look through my boxed sets to come up with a comprehensive list of favorites. "Dead is Dead" from last season was just made of win, though.

[Killa Pimp]

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/zz56e9625f.jpg


Saw this-
thought it was funny.
Enjoy

[The Gunslinger]

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[FreddyKR]

I have to say, that conversation with Locke and Jack was extremely touching. It was almost refreshing in a sense. There wasn't any tension, nothing insane happening...just them talking. And I love the line, "Nothing's irreversible."

[TheShowstoppa]

These "Flash-Sideways" are bugging the shit out of me. Instead of answering questions, they're making me ask more.... START WRAPPING SHIT UP! I don't want a cluster-fuck of information in 1 - 2 episodes. There's a whole season to unravel this shit, and instead, we're being dealt a major blow.

Do I absolutely love the show? You better fucking believe it!

[Evil_Meanie]

It's still a little early to tell, but I think that there's a real possibility that the "alt" will end up being the ending of the show. It seems like it has the potential to wrap up a lot of the characters. They've teased that Jack might fix Locke. Claire may keep her baby, based on Kate's encouragement. Nadia is around for Sayid to reunite with, and maybe Jacob won't kill her this time. I could easily see whatever happens on the island this season resulting in the alt.

That's not really the way I want things to go, but I don't see them going through the expense of bringing back dead characters and staging another flight of 815 if it serves no real purpose other than showing us what "would have" happened if The Island was underwater.

[The Gunslinger]

It's still a little early to tell, but I think that there's a real possibility that the "alt" will end up being the ending of the show. It seems like it has the potential to wrap up a lot of the characters. They've teased that Jack might fix Locke. Claire may keep her baby, based on Kate's encouragement. Nadia is around for Sayid to reunite with, and maybe Jacob won't kill her this time. I could easily see whatever happens on the island this season resulting in the alt.

That's not really the way I want things to go, but I don't see them going through the expense of bringing back dead characters and staging another flight of 815 if it serves no real purpose other than showing us what "would have" happened if The Island was underwater.

Honestly, if that is the case, then I'll be pissed. And this show easily could've ended last season then.

[Darth Sinister]

The flash sideways are basically showing us that they were always meant to come together like they did on the Island. It didn't matter if Jacob had chosen them or not, they were always supposed to be together. Fate versus free will is answered. Most likely they'll find themselves being drawn to the Island and could crossover to help the originals.

[Evil_Meanie]

But how will they be drawn to The Island when it is underwater?

I mean I agree with most of what you're saying, especially given the fact that Ethan popped up in the new time line last week to help out with Claire's pregnancy, much in the same way that he helped (I guess he was helping) her out on The Island. Also, very interesting to note that Ethan's last name in the alt is Goodspeed, the last name of his father, whereas it was Rom in the original timeline where Ethan defects to The Hostiles with Ben.

However, I don't think the alt is present just to show us our characters were always meant to come together in some way. The same point could have been presented from one of the Temple Others, or Jacob could have told Hurley that, or Steplocke could have said so, any of that would have cost a lot less money than it cost them to go through the trouble of bringing back some characters that have been off the show for quite awhile. Based on the fact that they've gone through the time and expense to show us the alt, I think there's a lot more to it than using it as a means to show the audience that everyone would have met eachother anyway.

I really don't subscribe to one single theory on it at this point, because I think we're too early in to take much from the alt at all. It's all very similar to what Desmond experienced in "Flashes Before Your Eyes", but on a much larger scale, and considering the fact that Jack was messing around with the same energy that Desmond was exposed to when he turned the failsafe, I think the alt will ultimately have something to do with that. To be honest, I'm not really clear on what actually happened to Desmond after he turned the failsafe at the end of Seasn 2, so perhaps as the alt continues to unravel, that will be explained. (The stuff I'm not sure about is whether or not he was physically traveling in time, what happened to his body between turning the failsafe and waking up in the jungle, and how he woke up naked.)

[Cody]

I love Lost. Be my Valentine, you fucking awesome TV show.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v168/Boondocks/1265940918882.jpg

[Darth Sinister]

But how will they be drawn to The Island when it is underwater?

They'd take a plane back to where the Island is in their world at which point they get sucked over into the other timeline, where the Island is above water. In other words, basically how Ajira arrived.

[Hockey Mask]

Last week's episode was really bad. It didn't go anywhere. It didn't advance the plot anymore than a two minute snippet could have. The temple people are feeling forced. Bleh. I liked the 2-hour season premiere but last week's blew.

[Killa Pimp]

Last week's episode was really bad. It didn't go anywhere. It didn't advance the plot anymore than a two minute snippet could have. Bleh. I liked the 2-hour season premiere but last week's blew.



Ha- I thought the same thing
I absolutely detest " Kate - centric " episodes.
Each season they are some of the worst.

Ah, but to each his own.

[Evil_Meanie]

I still haven't quite recovered from how amazing last night's episode was. I wouldn't be surprised if O'Quinn gets another Emmy.

[Hockey Mask]

Yeah. I was pretty happy with last night's episode. It seemed to be moving forward again although in a pretty thick haze like usual. I hope we get further explanation of the numbers than we did but it was interesting wehre they may be headed.

[The Gunslinger]

That was one of the best episodes out of the whole series, hands down.

[MysterioMan007]

I am saddened at the imminent of demise of the best TV show to ever grace television in May. I will have nothing to keep me a couch potato anymore. Sure, there are good shows, but nothing as good as Lost.

[The Gunslinger]

No one has anything to say about tonight's episode? Holy cow did shit just hit the fucking fan!

This show just took a hard left turn.

[Killa Pimp]

EPIC...
that's all I can say!

[Darth Sinister]

It seems to me that I was wrong in my earlier assessment of the flash sideways. They're showing us that despite the lack of influence from Jacob, the canidates are who they are regardless of being on the Island and what they did for 108 days. Hence Sayid's betrayal, Claire's love for Aaron, Jack trying to be a better man and Kate compassionate side.

[Cody]

It's been a crazy, interesting season. A friend of mine just recently got into the show in a big way, watching all of the previous seasons during the break between 5 and 6, now we talk about it a lot and the discussions we've been having throughout have made it even more fun.

Hell of an episode tonight. Heart-pounding second half and an ending that has me on the edge of being an emotional wreck. I also had a major personal loss today that's adding to it, but that was some sad business, the beach breakdown especially got to me. Hurley crying = me crying.

[Toejam]

Well, Damn. I'm surprised they killed off Jin and Sun so quickly after they were reunited.
This show is going out in a blaze of glory.
Hurley breaking down on the beach was tough, man. That dude is a big teddy bear.
I haven't liked Jack since the second season, but he is winning me over again.
These last three seasons, since they set a planned end point for the series, have been dynamite. The first two seasons were solid, but I felt that the third season was pretty average (and easily the weakest season) overall, until the last couple of episodes.

[Cody]

I haven't liked Jack since the second season, but he is winning me over again

Jack has caught a lot of hate over the years, but he's always been one of my favorites. He's actually the character I related to the most often and sided with. Opposite from you, season 2 is when that really clicked with me. I was totally with Jack during the argument about pushing the button in the hatch. Screw that nonsense! Of course he and I were wrong, but still...

[i am SAW]

i don't get it. they've had 2 stories with the characters. they were on the island, then it would cut to them in the real world at the same time. last night some of them died on the island, so does that mean they're now dead in the real world timeline too?

[Cody]

No, - you may already know these things, but I'll over-explain in case - right now the off island flashes are to an alternate timeline. While it's 2007 on the island (three years after their plane crash), in the off island scenes it's 2004 and their plane landed safely. We're still waiting to see where the alternate story is heading.

There's a lot of people who are alive in the alt-timeline but dead in island time. The guy Jin who died last night can be seen in the alt-flash that happened right after the deaths. He was walking down the hospital hallway, carrying flowers.

[Hockey Mask]

My sideways flashes theory...

I am guessing those sideways flashes that we are seeing are sideways only in the story telling that we are seeing. I am guessing we will see everything in the off-island sideways world is taking place after whatever the island finale brings us.

This may be already obvious to others but it seems like instead of the two timelines working concurrently I think that they are related only chronologically. Does this even make sense? Probably not or probably pretty obvious.

Not really a spoiler but we are too close to the end for me to get blamed for anything.

[Darth Sinister]

The Flash Sideways are the idealized world that was created when Jughead was detonated. This was covered when Daniel talked to Desmond and when Charlie told him what he saw on 815.Evidence of this...

-Jack has a wife and son. He gets to know Claire who is normal. He has confidence in his abilities that he didn't before.

-Locke is engaged to Helen, had a good relationship with his father and is content with his lot in life despite not going to the Island.

-Sawyer is a cop rather than a mere con man. He's friends and partnered with Miles.

-Kate gets to meet Claire and become friends with her.

-Claire is able to keep Aaron rather than give him up to adoption, since the couple in this timeline is unable to go forward as planned.

-Dogan is alive as is his son.

-Sayid has his brother alive and he gets to see Nadia being happy.

-Jin and Sun are together and in love. She never cheated on him like in the original timeline.

-Ben gets to be with Alex, even though they're not family here. But they are close to it and he is able to make amends for what he did in season four. He even has a better relationship with Roger that he couldn't in the original world.

-Desmond has Charles Widmore's respect and now he has Penny.

-Daniel became a musician as he always wanted to be.

-Miles is with his father and has been able to know him.

-Hurley is a successful millionare and philanthropist. He believes in good luck, not bad. And he's been reunited with Libby, who is alive and well.

Desmond is helping them to remember who they were in the other timeline.

[i am SAW]

The Flash Sideways are the idealized world that was created when Jughead was detonated. This was covered when Daniel talked to Desmond and when Charlie told him what he saw on 815.Evidence of this...

Desmond is helping them to remember who they were in the other timeline.[/spoiler]
i'm still confused. i've seen every episode but it's been on for what 6 years? with all the breaks in between, and the damn flash forwards and flash backwards, i really can't make sense or keep up with anything going on.

so which timeline is real? the ones in the real world or the ones on the island? the ones that aren't real, what the hell are they?

[Hockey Mask]

so which timeline is real? the ones in the real world or the ones on the island? the ones that aren't real, what the hell are they?

The island characters are the same characters that we have known from season one. The real world characters started appearing to the viewers after the bomb went off and they are regaining memories of the island charcters we have always known.

I think the series finale may be the cause of the real world characters existence and not the bomb at the end of last season.

[Killa Pimp]

WHYis that damned Kate still breathing??????????:D

[Hockey Mask]

WHYis that damned Claire still breathing??????????:D

[Cody]

WHYis that damned Kate still breathing??????????:D

Poor Kate, hated by viewers and rejected as a candidate. Not even the island wants her around anymore.

WHYis that damned Claire still breathing??????????:D

She could've died last night if she didn't like shooting people so much.

so which timeline is real? the ones in the real world or the ones on the island? the ones that aren't real, what the hell are they?

Both are real, to the people who are in them.

[Darth Sinister]

Yes, both are real. The Flash Sideways are based off of what they would've loved for their lives to have been like. As a result, it became real.

[Killa Pimp]

Well, Damn.
The finale was .... oddly good.

Hate they did not answer a lot of the island mysteries.
but but tied up the character development nicely.


Ranks up there as one of my fave shows...

[i am SAW]

i still don't understand shit.
they all died on the island, in order to be alive in real life?
what the fuck were they on the island, hallucinations?

[The Gunslinger]

After giving it a lot of thought, I believe they didn't die when they crashed on the island. Everything did happen. I say this because remember when Ben told Hurley he was a great number one? This was a reference to him replacing Jack and Jacob as the protector for the island. I also believe Ben's reference to Hurley about doing something different with the island, a better way concludes to Hurley creating the alternate universe since all he ever wanted to do is make others happy and bring people together.

[Darth Sinister]

Right. They were only dead when they died. If they died on the Island, they went to the sideways. If they died off the Island, they went there. It's like the Nexus in "Star Trek: Generations". Time has no meaning in the afterlife. When Jack died on the Island, he was on the plane. When Hurley died years later, he was on the plane. When Ben killed Locke in the apartment, he went to the plane. When Kate, Sawyer and Claire died, they went there. Jack was already dead which is why he had the scar on his neck and he looked at his appendix scar, where he was stabbed. He didn't understand why he had them and didn't remember getting them. But in reality, it was from his fight with the Monster. Remember how in "The Sixth Sense", Malcolm didn't know he was dead until he saw the sign and then he noticed the spot where he was shot. Same deal.

[Biosynthnut v.2]

It was all a dream....

[Psychoticninja]

Darth honestly, I'm a little confused. Can you please explain that again to me over.

[Darth Sinister]

It's like this, when Jughead blew in "The Incident", that's when the sideways world was created. It's a doorway to the afterlife where everyone who was part of the Island went to. A new existence was created where their lives were similar to their own, but were different in many ways. Jack married Juliet, Sun and Jin were never married, Sawyer became a cop, Hurley was never afraid, Locke was engaged to Helen, etc. Time has no meaning in death. So when someone died that was on the Island or connected to it, they were in the sideways. It didn't matter when they died, because they were all there upon their deaths. Once they made an emotional or physical connection to each other, they began to remember who they really were and what their lives were. Jack remembered when he touched the coffin and Kate. Locke remembered when he regained the feeling in his legs. Charlie began to when he swallowed the heroin aboard 815 and then again when he saw Claire give birth to Aaron. When Desmond began beating on Ben. Once they remembered they all reconnected at the church and moved on together.

Jack died when he was run through and we saw him fall. Kate died on the mainland years later. Etc. They were alive on the Island the whole time. Whenever someone died on the show, they either went to the sideways or were trapped as a ghost on the Island like Michael was. Libby was not stuck on the Island, hence we see here in the sideways.

[MysterioMan007]

It's 3 days later and I'm still sad to see this show go. I can't see anything ever topping it in my book. Greatest story ever told for my tastes.

I know the reaction is mixed and I can see why someone wouldn't be happy with the way things ended, but I thought it was fantastic. Yeah, I'm a little disappointed that we didn't get some island answers, but all of the important stuff was answered...even if vaguely.

It was an emotionally satisfying ending for me and I plan to do a complete rewatch soon.

As for the ending questions, Darth has pretty much explained the gist of it and if you go back and watch the scene between Jack and Christian at the church, Christian explained things so quickly while I was processing the twist that I really wasn't even listening to him. So, a summary of what he said goes basically like this: Everyone at that church created this world together (I'm assuming subconsciously; Jughead didn't explode) after they died so that they could meet up together in the afterlife and transcend to the next stage (i. e. "heaven") together. It is only these people because they are the ones who were most effected by this time period in their lives on the island. Some of these people died before Jack and some long after, so they didn't necessarily die on the island. I have to assume that people such as Hurley and Ben spent a long time protecting the island due to their conversation outside the church, while the ones who got off the island (Sawyer, Claire, Kate) could have lived another 60 years for all we know. Desmond's fate? Who knows? Sounded like Hurley was going to get him back to Penny somehow.

People that weren't there (i. e. Richard, Miles, Eko, Ana-Lucia, Daniel, Charlotte, etc.) probably had different reasons for not being there. We saw that Ben wasn't ready to go yet, while Desmond mentioned that Ana-Lucia wasn't ready, either, and hadn't had her moment of enlightenment yet. Desmond mentioned to Eloise that he wasn't taking Daniel yet. Frank, Miles, Charlotte, Richard, etc. had more important chapters in their lives than the island and either went later or before this group did. We saw that Michael was trapped on the island for eternity and couldn't move on.

As for people who died (again) in the "purgatory", such Keamy, Omar, etc. I only interpret that to mean that they didn't go to "heaven" and "moved on" to a darker place. Either that, or they were never really there in the first place, just like Jack and Juliet's son wasn't real. I guess it all just depends on your interpretation, but this is how I saw things.

I did get a kick out of Kimmel's alternative endings, especially the Survivor spoof with Jeff Probst showing up and extinguishing Sayid's torch, causing him to throw a fit in a Survivor-like confessional.

But, as a whole, I am so sad to see this story end. I felt like there was still so much story to be told, but I'm glad to have a satisfying ending. Namaste.

[Darth Sinister]

Well, Desmond is reunited with Penny as they're both in the church. So like Hurley and Ben said, the rules can be changed and they could get him back home. Probably using the boat the Monster planned to use. The same one that Sawyer and Kate used to get to Hydra Island.

And technically, Kate and Claire are dead. So it works out.



Eko didn't return because apparently the actor who played him wanted more than what ABC could commit to and it was already pretty significant to begin with.

[Killa Pimp]

[QUOTE=Darth Sinister;413038]
And technically, Kate and Claire are dead. So it works out.



Technically:rolleyes::rolleyes::D

but still a good point

[The Gunslinger]

What was Jack and Juliet's fake son? Maybe he could've been a grown up Aaron.

[MysterioMan007]

What was Jack and Juliet's fake son? Maybe he could've been a grown up Aaron.
David...and I think he was just a way for Jack to work out his daddy issues, i. e. have the relationship with his "son" that he his father never had with him. Claire was giving birth to baby Aaron...and I'm not sure how that would work for the real Aaron if he died and came to this "purgatory", but it's the afterlife, so there may be no rational explanation.

[The Gunslinger]

It's been said by Benjamin Linus himself that there should be an Epilogue featuring Ben and Hurley as the protectors of the island after Jack dies. It's suppose to be a good thirteen minutes or longer.

[Darth Sinister]

David...and I think he was just a way for Jack to work out his daddy issues, i. e. have the relationship with his "son" that he his father never had with him. Claire was giving birth to baby Aaron...and I'm not sure how that would work for the real Aaron if he died and came to this "purgatory", but it's the afterlife, so there may be no rational explanation.

Yep. You can see that in "Lighthouse" when he talks to David after the recital.

[Cody]

Six years ago, I was a fan of JJ Abrams' show Alias when I heard that he was involved with the creation of new show about a group of people who survive a plane crash on an uncharted desert isle. Sounded sort of like a dramatic Gilligan's Island. I was intrigued by the idea, largely because I wasn't sure how they could make it work for a full, multi-season series. So I checked this show out... and it turned out to be much more than I expected.

The mysteries get all the attention and they're a big part of the fun, but I was never one in a rush for answers, I would just take them as they came. There were a lot of answers along the way, some things remain unclear, some are just left up to fan imagination. I'm fine with what we got. For me, it was about taking the journey with the characters. I ended up connecting to the characters, caring about them, emotionally investing in their stories and situations on a deeper level than I have with any other TV drama. Loving these people, hating these people, getting wrapped up in it all.

Building up to finale night, I rewatched the entire series, pilot through season 6. It was my first time going through it all again, and it was interesting to see how it played once I knew the answers to so many of the mysteries and really knew what was going on. I enjoyed it, I re-connected and got wrapped up all over again. It confirmed that even though the series is over, I'm not done watching it.

Season 1 is fantastic. The crash, meeting the characters, watching them learn how to survive, realizing things are a bit off on the island, a lot of great stuff. Season 2 is awesome. The hatch, the button, the Others, things get stranger, a bit darker, the "man of science, man of faith" debate really amps up. Season 3 and its adventures in New Otherton is good, but the flashback aspect was getting played out, kind of tired. They did all they could do there and were in danger of starting to tread water - then the showrunners negotiated an end date with ABC, and everything changed with the s3 finale, which is still my favorite of all the finales. Charlie's sacrifice, NOT PENNY'S BOAT, flash forward, "We have to go back!" So great. Season 4 took a hit by the writers strike and they had to drop a few episodes, speed things up a bit after the eight that they had completed before the strike, but it works and I love the freighter folk story and the flash forwards. Season 5: The Return is fun with its time jumps and dropping the Losties into 70s Dharmaville, building up to The Incident. And now season 6 and the full leap into mythology. "Man of science, man of faith" has a clear winner here. It was different, but I was still engrossed.

As I've said, the character I most related to and sided with was Jack. My journey through watching the show has really matched the one he went through in it. I was a "man of science" with him, don't push the button, fight against accepting the supernatural, I thought John Locke was an ass, if you crash on an island you don't fight to stay on it, these people need rescued... And my perspective changed along with Jack's. I accepted the supernatural/spiritual side of things and gained new respect and caring for Locke. Locke could be annoying and he did some jerky things - blowing up subs and throwing a knife into a woman's back, come on - but he was also often on the right track. He was also a very sad, pathetic character and on rewatch, knowing that the Locke alive on the island after the return is not Locke, he had a really tragic end. Poor John Locke. I loved Jack's line to Smokey in the finale, "You're not John Locke. You disrespect his memory by wearing his face..."

The s6 flash sideways... An alternate 2004 where the plane doesn't crash and the characters are slightly different. Or so it seemed at first. I know the resolution to the flash sideways stories did not go over well with everyone. I can understand why, and some could even bash it with the same words used by the guy in Juliet's book club at the beginning of season 3, "by-the-numbers religious hokum pokum"... It wasn't at all what I thought it would be, I was hoping it would remain an alternate time and everyone would just be able to continue living their lives, the knowledge of the other existence fully rounding out the character. But what I got is probably better than that, because my hope doesn't make for much of an ending, and still leaves some people living in two different timelines at once. A lot of people are upset, a lot are very confused and misinterpreting it, thinking it means that everyone died in the plane crash and everything they watched didn't happen. But that's not the case, as Christian tells Jack, everything was real. Everything happened, it's just that at the end of everyone's lives, whether they died during the show or long after Smokey's defeat, they all meet up in the sideways. It may be sappy for some, but I thought the ending was pretty beautifully done. I loved all the reunions and the flashes of awareness, of memory, and it all gets me a bit choked up. Full acceptance came when someone online put forward an idea that didn't occur to me, but made sense - the bright light that they enter when they "move on" in the afterlife is the same light that glows in the heart of the island and inside everyone, tying together the job of the island's protector and the objective to keep the light lit with the resolution of the sideways. I like it.

So, I checked this show out... Six seasons and 121.5 hours (I think) of episodes later - it was a fun journey, it was a hell of a ride. I had a great time.

Remember. Let go. Move on.

[MysterioMan007]

Great post, Cody, and I pretty much agree with just about every point, especially the stuff with John Locke. What an unbelievably tragic character he turned out to be...always the goat who was manipulated into everything, including his death.

Also, I think that Through the Looking Glass (Season 3 finale) was the greatest episode of all of them. To see Jack fall that far into darkness and then realize that he was off the island was the single most memorable moment for me. Although we had to wait an entire season to find out Locke was in the coffin, I pretty much knew that's who it was when it aired. It just made the most sense from a storyline standpoint.

Jack turned out to be THE tragic hero of the show and that's why the opening shot of him opening his eye on the beach is the perfect bookend to the last shot of him closing his eyes in the same place. It was an incredible journey, one that I will always look back on with fondness and one that I will revisit many times thanks to the greatness that is DVD.

My only problem now is finding a show to watch since most of the good stuff is gone after this year.