Halloween

[Deathscythe]

I can't believe no ones made a Halloween thread yet.

To start off, my favorite Halloween sequel is Halloween 4 with Halloween 2 close behind.

[CampNewBlood]

I love the original. Halloween II is probably my favorite sequel.

Can't wait to to get the Blu-Ray of the original Halloween.

[CanadianFonzie]

well as I said, this was the first horror movie I saw in theatres...or was it the Exorcist...anyway I've always loved the suspence in this movie and how Michael is one of the original slashers and he has this movie to thank for it

[Special Killa B]

1 and 2 are my favorites

I still wish they would make the ultimate Halloween version of 1 and 2. What I mean by this is make 1 and 2 into one whole movie and add all the tv scenes they only show on tv. That would definitely be worth the 3 to 3 1/2 hours it would take to watch the whole thing!

[Deathscythe]

They can't becuse Starz Entertainment owns the right towards Halloween and Universal owns the rights towards Halloween 2.

[Jigsaw]

The original Halloween is one of my all-time favorites and I enjoy most of the sequels except for Resurrection.

[sCabbOy]

People get on to me for my opinions on the franchise, but I only really like 1 and 2. 3 is good for other reasons, and 4 is watchable. The rest are blah to me.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

The original is my all-time favorite horror movie. 1 and 2 are my absolute favorites. I also really enjoy 3 and 4.

My rankings would go:

1
2
4
3
5
H20
6
8

[The Dream Master]

My rankings:

Halloween
Halloween 3
Halloween 4
Halloween 2
Halloween 6
Halloween 5

As far as I'm concerned, H20 and H:R don't exist. They disrespected parts 4-6 by ignoring them, so I'll do the same to them. ;)

[CampNewBlood]

I love Halloween III. I wish we could Special Editions of Halloween II and Halloween III from Universal.

[sCabbOy]

An H3 SE is long overdue.

[CampNewBlood]

I agree Scabboy......not even a trailer on the current dvd. :(

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I love Halloween III. I wish we could Special Editions of Halloween II and Halloween III from Universal.

That would be nice. If i'm not mistaken, there is going to be a Double Feature with H2/H3 released soon. Seeing as how it's a DF, I doubt there will be any features. :(

[Wheatjedi]

I love doing rankings!! Okay.... my faves:

Halloween
Halloween 4
Halloween II
Halloween H20
Halloween 5
Halloween III
Halloween 6 (Producer's Cut)
Halloween 8

[Deathscythe]

Heres my rankings.

1. Halloween
2. Halloween 4
3. Halloween 2
4. Halloween 6
5. Halloween 5
6. Halloween H20
7. Halloween Ressurection

[sCabbOy]

My rankings.

H1
H2
H3
H4
H7
H5,6 & 8 equally shity.

[Deathscythe]

H5,6 & 8 equally shity.

Haha, I myself didn't like any sequel after the 4th one to be honest.

[sCabbOy]

Haha, I myself didn't like any sequel after the 4th one to be honest.

Neither do I, but Part 7 was entertaining for me. I dunno why. It had some really well photographed scenes I think.

[Autobotsdie]

I liked 1 abd 2. The look on Loomis face at the end of 1 was like "Holy shit!"

[mcilroga]

I liked 1 abd 2. The look on Loomis face at the end of 1 was like "Holy shit!"

Actually, it was "I knew this would happen." It's subtle, but it's knowing. And what's funny is that at the very beginning of Halloween II what's the first thing we see on Loomis' face when he comes running out the front door? Complete bewilderment! Yeah... way to fuck up the continuity of H1's ending, H2.

Oh, and then Loomis hops in the car with Brackett leaving a wounded Laurie upstairs alone with The Shape nearby (in the side yard, no less). :duh: Wow... good job there, Halloween II. :lol:

[Autobotsdie]

Thats one thing I never could understand. Why leave her behind when Michael could attack again.

[Erik]

I rewatched Halloween for the first time in years this past week, and I really saw something special in it that I never had before. The movie is quite simply brilliant.

I decided to give Halloween 2 another try as well, since I had always liked it, but damn, it really sucks when compared with the original.

[Rich]

The best Halloween movies for me are the first and third. I don't see the need for Michael Myers sequels anymore. Halloween 3 had a much better story then the other sequels in exploring the actual meaning of the holiday and putting it into an evil terrorist plot to murder millions of children on Devil's Night.

[Deathscythe]

I've never seen Halloween 3, I'm planing on watching it on Halloween night.

[Autobotsdie]

I've seen parts of Halloween 3 and its not that bad. I don't know why it seems almost everyone dislikes it.

[The Dream Master]

I've seen parts of Halloween 3 and its not that bad. I don't know why it seems almost everyone dislikes it.

The lack of Michael Myers is the usual reason.

If it had just been called Season of the Witch, I think more people would like it.

Incidently, there is another film called Season of the Witch by Romero, but I've never seen it.

[Autobotsdie]

Michael Myers was in but only for a brief moment. Even Jamie Lee Curtis was in as the operator on the phone.

[Erik]

I saw Halloween 3 like ten years ago. I hated it then. I don't really have an opinion on it now though, since I can't actually remember any of it.

[Wheatjedi]

Michael Myers was in but only for a brief moment. Even Jamie Lee Curtis was in as the operator on the phone.

I'm not sure about the phone operator part (that's new to me), but Curtis was definitely the voice of the "Curfew Lady" who spoke over the town's PA system.

[kramerfan]

One of the greatest films ever.Love it!!!!

[CampNewBlood]

I love Fall time of the year. Every year when the leaves start turning red, orange and yellow and falling, it reminds me of when Laurie is walking with her pumpkin and the leaves are falling.

Great memories.

[Ron]

I can't wait until the week before the release of RZ Halloween. I'm just gonna have a huge marathon and watch the entire series. :nerd:

[Autobotsdie]

I just hope the remake serves the first one justice.

[Ron]

all depends on what you as an idividual consider justice i guess.

[Joshg]

Well, zombie is keeping the ar window smash in (although upped the level) and the ghost sheet thing in. I remember, on the Halloween Movies forum, he asked us what we'd like to keep in, and I said the ghost in the sheet. Sure enough, it's in the trailer. Hopefully the film too :D Now, is this because of me? I highly doubt it. :(

[Ron]

I would have asked for the whole 'Laurie in the closet" thing where Michael smashes through it, but thats just me.

[BlakeTyner]

That's a great scene, but it always struck me as a little unrealistic. I mean, it wouldn't have taken a guy that size but about a second and a half to get into that closet, and Idunno, but a coat hanger just doesn't seem to me like a weapon that'd stop a guy that can take a licking and keep on ticking like Mikey.

Nonetheless, I'm interested to see what Zombie's flick will be about. I really love the original...for some reason it always struck me as having the creepiest environment of a horror movie. That town, with the leaves falling, could be anywhere, USA.

~Blake

[Ron]

That's a great scene, but it always struck me as a little unrealistic. I mean, it wouldn't have taken a guy that size but about a second and a half to get into that closet, and Idunno, but a coat hanger just doesn't seem to me like a weapon that'd stop a guy that can take a licking and keep on ticking like Mikey.

Nonetheless, I'm interested to see what Zombie's flick will be about. I really love the original...for some reason it always struck me as having the creepiest environment of a horror movie. That town, with the leaves falling, could be anywhere, USA.

~Blake

I dunno. Michael wasn't a 6'8 towering giant in the original, he was pretty average sized, but I guess if he was able to lift bob simms off the ground with one hand then that closet was really no match for him.

[Autobotsdie]

If it was me I would've said keep the scene where the kid sees Michael for the first time and exclaims he is the boogey man.

[CampNewBlood]

That's a great scene, but it always struck me as a little unrealistic. I mean, it wouldn't have taken a guy that size but about a second and a half to get into that closet, and Idunno, but a coat hanger just doesn't seem to me like a weapon that'd stop a guy that can take a licking and keep on ticking like Mikey.

Nonetheless, I'm interested to see what Zombie's flick will be about. I really love the original...for some reason it always struck me as having the creepiest environment of a horror movie. That town, with the leaves falling, could be anywhere, USA.

~Blake


I agree. But you have to admit that the coat hanger in the eyeball would have smarted a lil' bit. :D

[Joshg]

The great thing about the first Halloween, is that it never gets boring...just slow. Hehe, and Lynda has a personality to boot! Go PJ!

[Autobotsdie]

Totaly. lol

[Ron]

yeah, someone should really start a p.j. soles appreciation thread..or atleast one for showing her boobs:p

[Shoesalesman]

Halfway through Halloween II, watching the rest this evening. The more I watch this movie the hotter Jamie Lee Curtis gets. :love:

[Deathscythe]

Lynda was the hottest Halloween character.

Yes, I did see something I liked. :)

[Ron]

i thought the nurse from part 2 in the hot tub was pretty sweet looking too.

[Autobotsdie]

I read an interview that Jamie Lee Curtis did where she said they were coming down on her for not cussing or smoking or even doing a nudity scene until she did Trading Places then they left her alone.

[Wheatjedi]

For those of you who live in or around Dallas, the Studio Movie Grill in Addison is showing the original Halloween on August 16. They will be giving away posters and copies of the newest Halloween DVD from Anchor Bay.

[Scarecrow]

I'd love to see the original Halloween in cinemas. That'd be amazing.


- Scarecrow

[hack slash]

I read an interview that Jamie Lee Curtis did where she said they were coming down on her for not cussing or smoking or even doing a nudity scene until she did Trading Places then they left her alone.

she was smoking in the car with Annie in part 1

my rankings for the series

1. Halloween(of course)
2. H2O
3. Halloween 2
4. Halloween 4
5. Halloween: Resurrection

6. Halloween 5:(
7. Halloween 6:side:
8. Halloween 3:duh:

[DarkPumpkin]

Monster Mania is having a Halloween reunion of sorts this year. Everyone that has ever played Mikey, with the exception of Nick Castle (the only true Shape as far as I am concerned) and Tony Moran will be there. I am so there. Have had the flight booked for a month now. The Halloween reunion will commence again at Cinema Wasteland this year, which I also am planning on going to.

I always wanted to go to a horror convention. I'll make it to 4 this year, haha.

As for Halloween III, there is a creepy scene in the novelization from what I have been told. Apparently, Michael is described as walking around in the broad daylight, so he does make an appearance of sorts.

[Autobotsdie]

If memory serves right I remember a scene they showed where you see michael in the hardware shop getting the mask and stuff but they don't show that on the DVD. I remember they showed it on TV a couple times.

[Ron]

It was a scene from Season of the Witch?

[Autobotsdie]

There was also another scene not on DVD where Loomis is in some sort of court trying to get the person over Michaels case make Michael stay in the mental ward.

[Ron]

I hope these surface one day on a dvd release, I'd be interested in seeing them.

[The Dream Master]

There was also another scene not on DVD where Loomis is in some sort of court trying to get the person over Michaels case make Michael stay in the mental ward.


Auto, I'm pretty sure you're thinking of the television version, which was released on DVD. It's out of print now, though.

[The Tall Man]

Yeah, Anchor Bay called it "the extended cut".

T.M.

[Ron]

Perhaps it's about time for a re release?

[The Dream Master]

Considering another repackaged version of Halloween was just released this week, I don't think it's happening anytime soon.

You can find the old release on Amazon for a decent price, though.

[Ron]

Thanks for the tip:)

[The Dream Master]

Yeah, it'll be from a Marketplace seller, but if you can find one that's trustworthy, it's worth a shot.

[Autobotsdie]

I've kinda wondered why on the Halloween 4 cover they show a pic of Michael coming from that one house across the street from the house Laurie was babysiting.

[Ron]

Hmmm, I never really noticed that, I'll have to check it out.

[DarkPumpkin]

Yeah, Anchor Bay called it "the extended cut".

T.M.

You can also see the TV cut on the limited edition 2 disk set that AB released about 5 years ago. Expect to pay a fairly hefty price for it though, as it goes between 25-60 dollars. I highly suggest it though, as it's the most complete Halloween release thus far. That is until the 30th Anniversary edition of course, where those bastards will force me to re-re-re-re-re-re dip yet again. "Michael eats cereal!" OH GOD! How could I not have that DVD now? Haha....

[The Dream Master]

If I'm not mistaken, though, if you already have the single disc '99 version, all you need is the single disc release of the Extended/Television cut and you have everything. I could be wrong, though.

[The Tall Man]

Pumpkin, well in addition to Myers eating cereal, they DID find an alternate ending to Halloween last year or the year before... so I'd say wait until they deliver THAT on DVD to buy it again.
T.M.

[Erik]

Pumpkin, well in addition to Myers eating cereal, they DID find an alternate ending to Halloween last year or the year before... so I'd say wait until they deliver THAT on DVD to buy it again.
T.M.

For real, or is this some kind of joke that I'm not savvy to?

[Ron]

I wonder if they'll ever just have a definitive release of Halloween one day and just be done with it.

[Autobotsdie]

Probably not. Not as long as Carpenter can make money from it.

[Ron]

Makes you wonder if they really are pulling in much money from the releases now though..there's been so many of them. I'm sure after Zombie's Halloween hits the theatre sales for the original will increase a bit.

[Skott]

The newly recovered footage is in the hands of another studio. They're competitors releasing films in the same vein so I highly doubt there would be any collaboration between Starz and them. Why would Starz do it anyway? They still have a few hundred re-releases of the movie to worry about before thinking of adding something new.

[Rich]

Probably not. Not as long as Carpenter can make money from it.

Don't count the studios out either. Don't think Starz doesn't want to make money off of them as well.

I just wish Friday the 13th had half the dvd attention that Halloween gets.

[Ron]

Don't count the studios out either. Don't think Starz doesn't want to make money off of them as well.

I just wish Friday the 13th had half the dvd attention that Halloween gets.

I agree. Though the Friday boxset did have some great features, I think it is downright inexcusable that every movie didn't contain atleast a commentary track. Some more featurettes would have been nice considering that this film series is one of the staples of the slasher sub-genre.

[Joshg]

Indeed. Luckily, the upside to Friday the 13th, is that a boxset is possible.

For Region 1, a boxset for 1-8 is impossible. Parts 2 and 3 are owned by MGM, 1, 4 and 5 by Anchor Bay, and 6, 7 & 8 by Dimension. Talk about wowsers! :P

I was very sad that there were no commentaries for 1, 2, 4, and 5, especially part 1, since:
1- There exists a commentary already!
2- It molded the slasher genre!

Come on!

[Ron]

Grrr..it just frustrates me that if they do release another Friday boxset then I'll have to double-dip. I refuse, however, to double-dip if they don't have the original boxart for the films.

[Deathscythe]

Indeed. Luckily, the upside to Friday the 13th, is that a boxset is possible.

For Region 1, a boxset for 1-8 is impossible. Parts 2 and 3 are owned by MGM, 1, 4 and 5 by Anchor Bay, and 6, 7 & 8 by Dimension. Talk about wowsers! :P

I was very sad that there were no commentaries for 1, 2, 4, and 5, especially part 1, since:
1- There exists a commentary already!
2- It molded the slasher genre!

Come on!

Actually I'm pretty sure 2 and 3 are owned by Universal and not MGM.

[El Rooto]

That's right.

[The Tall Man]

II was very sad that there were no commentaries for 1, 2, 4, and 5
They are 2... count 'em TWO commentaries for Halloween 4, and one for Halloween 5. However, the Danielle Harris/Elle Cornelle commentary for 4 is nigh worthless. But the Alan B. McElroy commentary... he delivers the goods.

Girard reveals himself to be pretty much a wacko on his commentary.

T.M.

[CrazyCamper]

I love Fall time of the year. Every year when the leaves start turning red, orange and yellow and falling, it reminds me of when Laurie is walking with her pumpkin and the leaves are falling.

Great memories.

OMG, totally! :D

[DarkPumpkin]

Indeed. Luckily, the upside to Friday the 13th, is that a boxset is possible.

For Region 1, a boxset for 1-8 is impossible. Parts 2 and 3 are owned by MGM, 1, 4 and 5 by Anchor Bay, and 6, 7 & 8 by Dimension. Talk about wowsers! :P

I was very sad that there were no commentaries for 1, 2, 4, and 5, especially part 1, since:
1- There exists a commentary already!
2- It molded the slasher genre!

Come on!

There are actually commentaries for H2 and HIII in the UK Region 2 releases. I am currently awaiting my H2 DVD from the UK to come in, and I will let you know how the commentary is. I am a total commenatary nut, who enjoys listening to them.

The Region 2 boxset is pretty nice, but it is also a very pretty penny. It commands about 90 dollars and over on Ebay, so I am holding out until I can get one for under $60.
ADDED:
If I'm not mistaken, though, if you already have the single disc '99 version, all you need is the single disc release of the Extended/Television cut and you have everything. I could be wrong, though.

No, you aren't wrong. But the 2 disk is just such a nice set that I figure I would promote it.

And Tall Man, I have heard about the alleged alternative ending to Halloween. I have heard that Dr. Loomis simply has a different look, which is a look of shock, based on Michael not being there. This would make sense, in that Carpenter has told the story about Donald asking him how he wanted to play the scene. Either "Oh God! He's gone!" or "Yep, he won't be there when I look down." I think they chose the right ending.

[The Dream Master]

Yeah, I wish I had the 2-Disc set from a collector's perspective. I own both the '99 single-disc and the extended disc, so I'm technically not missing anything. I saw the 2-disc set a bunch of times but never picked it up. I ended up getting the extended edition for completion's sake, and it's a bit of a curiosity. I rarely watch it though, because I feel like it destroys the pacing of the film.

[The Tall Man]

And Tall Man, I have heard about the alleged alternative ending to Halloween. I have heard that Dr. Loomis simply has a different look
I knew that story, but what I'd read was the alt. ending was that Michael was actually dead... which is less scary. The ending we got was the right call.

Dream, I honestly prefer the extended cut to the usual version. More Pleasance = me happy.

T.M.

[The Dream Master]

TM, I know--we talked about this in chat a few weeks back. I don't loathe the extended cut or anything, but I rarely watch it. I might watch it in a couple weeks before seeing the remake, just to change things up.

Honestly, the only scene I really feel messes things up is the scene involving young Michael and Loomis at the beginning of the film. The theatrical transition is so much better, in my opinion. Everything else is fine though, so I guess I shouldn't say the Extended Cut destroys the pacing of the film--it just throws it off.

[DarkPumpkin]

I knew that story, but what I'd read was the alt. ending was that Michael was actually dead... which is less scary. The ending we got was the right call.

Dream, I honestly prefer the extended cut to the usual version. More Pleasance = me happy.

T.M.

I also had read about that ending as well. I am with you, the ending is brilliant just the way it is. Just hearing Michael breathing at the end of the film is creepy enough. I also love how there is a sense of "He is everywhere because he is the Shape" in that all the locations are shown at the end of the film. Brilliant.

As for the TV edit, I'm not crazy about it. A lot of it is simply padding to make up for necessary cuts. The scenes with Michael in the institution are good, but I don't care for them in that they give a little bit more origin to Michael than I care for. I simply like how in the original, he goes nuts for no reason one Halloween night and is consumed by rage until he decides to embark on another Halloween night for some more killing. As Loomis says "No reason, no motivation. Just purely and simply evil."

[Rich]

I agree with those who like the ending the way it is. You hear him breathing absolutely everywhere. That gives you the simple feeling that the boogeyman is still out there somewhere.

As far as the extended version, I did not care for it much. I would like to buy it just to have it, but the scenes were just not needed. They just slowed the movie doen considerably.

They did not even have the feel of the original film. I look at the extended version of Halloween the same way I look at the 30th anniversary edition of Night of the Living Dead. The scenes were added to the movie years later for whatever reason. They were not originally even filmed. The movie did not need them to become a classic, and it sure as hell does not need them now.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I didn't really care for the additional scenes either. IMO, they didn't add anything to the movie. The movie is perfect the way it is.
ADDED:
I've known about this guy called Slasher Dave for awhile now. He makes 70s-80s style horror soundtrack music. He just put up a track that he did for Halloween. It's very similiar, but there are some slight changes....this is the track that's playing when Loomis and Sheriff Brackett go to investigate Myers house. :)

http://www.myspace.com/slasherdavemusic

[sCabbOy]

Hearkening back to a discussion about Bob Clark influencing this movie- on DeadPit.com they interviewed Carpenter and Carpenter said he never spoke to Clark about Halloween, or a sequel to Black Christmas. He went on to say "I saw Black Christmas in the theater and thought to myself 'this is how you DON'T do a horror movie' - no offense to him".

So, who knows the story behind that.

[Autobotsdie]

I'm still suprised on how little of a budget they had and how fast they made it and yet it still remains one of the best horror movies out there.

[sCabbOy]

Horror doesn't need a budget, it needs a great script, a great director and a competant cinematographer/DP

[Autobotsdie]

Thats true. If ya'll ever saw the behind the scenes thing on Halloween then ya'll know that Halloween didn't start off to well at first then all of a sudden it was a cult hit. It was one of those movies you went and saw an midnight in the theaters.

[Autobotsdie]

I don't know if this has been asked yet or not but when Michael kills his sister in the begining of the film and came out the front door why didn't he kill or at least try to kill his parents when they showed up.

[Deathscythe]

A 6 year old boy vs. two adults? I think I know why.

Anyway, has anyone noticed when we see Michael walk out the house, he has a what just happened expression on his face?

[Autobotsdie]

I know what you mean. But he just killed his sister who was bigger and older than him so who can say he couldn't kill 2 grown adults.

[DarkPumpkin]

I know what you mean. But he just killed his sister who was bigger and older than him so who can say he couldn't kill 2 grown adults.

I think the shocked expression on little Mikey's face says a lot. He has just killed Judith, but I don't think he is even entirely sure why. You really need to track down Curtis Richards' adaptation of the novel. There has been a rumor floating around that was actually an alias of John Carpenter, but I don't know how true that is or not.

The novel is very interesting, and shows us how Michael was in fact consumed by rage. He doesn't understand it, it just motivates him and drives him. The Druid theme is first introduced here, with Michael's grandfather being the first to have the curse. Obviously, H6 took this theme to the extreme.

As much as I hate to admit this, I think Zombie had a very interesting theme with the whole Michael feels abandonment which drives him to kill. He didn't execute it well, but it's a nice subtle undertone. Michael's parents come back home to him, and the rage is suppressed again. He is sent to the asylum, and it flares back up. It's a neat idea, though I much prefer him just snapping for no apparent reason.

[Just Jeans]

I got the new edition of Halloween on DVD at Wal-Mart tonight for $9.44. I don't now -- nor have I ever -- owned it on DVD, so it made sense to grab it at such a cheap price. The cover has a nice reflective sheen to it, too. It's a shame about the Wal-Mart sticker on the cardboard. :shifty:

Is there anything different on this new disc from the previous release?

[The Dream Master]

Jeans, it's a re-release of the '99 disc, straight-up, which is the best available version of the film in terms of picture quality. The Divimax version is actually a better-mastered release, but the color timing's fucked up, so you did right by buying that version.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I'm going to pick up that version. I have the Divimax one, but the transfer isn't as good as the original. I was hesitant at first because I already have it on DVD, plus 2 on VHS. Next time i'm at Best Buy, i'll probably pick it up. :)

[Just Jeans]

The 5.1 mix on the DVD isn't so hot. The dialog channel is super quiet. I had to turn it way up just to hear them without cranking the main volume so high that the music was blaring. I think I'll try it with the 2.0 sound mix next time, and if it's still crud, I'll go with the mono mix.

You know, for all the talking up of the picture quality that is printed on the back of the disc, there's a lot of scratching and some pretty noticeable artifacts on the transfer, not to mention some compression artifacts that are particularly noticeable when it's pitch back. Still, it's a much better picture quality than my old VHS, so it's all good.

[DarkPumpkin]

I was just happy that I won my copy during the Anchor Bay trivia contest at Monster Mania. The question asked was "Who executive produced Halloween?" Everyone was yelling out Debra Hill but I correctly shouted "Irwin Yablans." It's a pretty nifty cover and helps make my Halloween DVD collection complete, but I didn't really want to spend ten dollars on a slipcase.

I still prefer my limited edition 2 disk set the most.

[Rich]

The 5.1 mix on the DVD isn't so hot. The dialog channel is super quiet. I had to turn it way up just to hear them without cranking the main volume so high that the music was blaring

I have that problem with a lot of dvds. I mean, I love music in horror films obviously, but when I have to turn it up so damn high just to hear the characters speak that is not a good thing. I live in a condo and other residents to not want to have to hear people screaming and scary music for two hours. I do not blame them because I don't want to hear their television sets either. That is understandable. I just wish they would make the sound level on dvds the way they used to make it on vhs, for the mono tracks at least.

[The Dream Master]

The 5.1 mix on the DVD isn't so hot. The dialog channel is super quiet. I had to turn it way up just to hear them without cranking the main volume so high that the music was blaring. I think I'll try it with the 2.0 sound mix next time, and if it's still crud, I'll go with the mono mix.

You know, for all the talking up of the picture quality that is printed on the back of the disc, there's a lot of scratching and some pretty noticeable artifacts on the transfer, not to mention some compression artifacts that are particularly noticeable when it's pitch back. Still, it's a much better picture quality than my old VHS, so it's all good.

I think the print quality used for the '99 version is pretty good, but there are a few artifacts, mostly jaggies (I don't think I've ever noticed any compression artifacts, though). Then again, that transfer is about 8 years old now, so it's to be expected. The Divimax version is supposed to be better in these respects, but, as I said before ,the color timing is screwed. The upcoming Blu-ray version is supposed to be the best of both worlds, thank goodness.

As for the sound, I've never had any problems with the surround mix. Are you running it through a tv or a surround system? That makes a big difference because some 5.1 mixes just don't downconvert well on television speakers.

[Deathscythe]

Does anyone know which version of the Halloween DVD is the best? Theres like a million of them.

[The Dream Master]

The version that just came out (and the one we're discussing) is the way to go.

The absolute best version is the limited 2-disc version that came out in '99, as it includes the disc that was just re-released along with the TV (or extended) version, but it's long-since been out of print.

[DarkPumpkin]

The version that just came out (and the one we're discussing) is the way to go.

The absolute best version is the limited 2-disc version that came out in '99, as it includes the disc that was just re-released along with the TV (or extended) version, but it's long-since been out of print.

Though, if you scope around on Ebay, you can find it a fairly reasonable price of around 35-40 dollars. I absolutely adore this version. It comes with a very cool hologram cover that alternates between Michael and the pumpkin with the knife, and it also comes with postcards.

And if you are super ambitious and own a region free player, I also recommend the limited edition 25th anniversary tin from Germany. Limited to 6,000 copies, it comes with 3 DVDs and a soundtrack from the film! You also get a film cell, a flashing pumpkin and a booklet. It's the gem of my collection.

[Just Jeans]

As for the sound, I've never had any problems with the surround mix. Are you running it through a tv or a surround system? That makes a big difference because some 5.1 mixes just don't downconvert well on television speakers.

I'm running it on a 5.1 system (I refuse to down-mix unless I have to. If I'm watching a DVD on a standard TV system, I use the mono or stereo mix if the DVD has it). The dialog channel (Center) is just too damned quiet. I had to turn just the center channel up to 7 out of 10 just to hear the dialog when the music was loud. :meh:

There are only three DVDs I really have this problem with -- Halloween, Doctor Who: The Complete First Series (the dialog is too quiet in the mix) and Doctor Who: The Complete Second Series (the bass tones are WAY too deep). Generally, I don't have this problem. It's just those three releases.

As for the Blu-Ray version of Halloween... well, that does me no good. I'm ghetto poor. Guess I might get it in five or six years, if there isn't some new medium out. :shifty:

[DarkPumpkin]

http://a528.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/89/l_37bcc034a631ebf20f4d388e22764d87.jpg

That's the German tin on the very left. I can post pictures of what the inside looks like, if anyone is interested.

[The Dream Master]

Jeans, I'll have to spin my disc again this weekend to see if I get the same results. I don't remember ever having problems with the dialogue channel, but it could just be my bad memory at work. If anything, I always remember being quite impressed by the 5.1 re-mix (particularly the thunder at the beginning). I'm thinking I only watched it with the re-mix once, though, as I tend to listen to the original soundtrack in most cases--so that might be why I don't remember anything being off with the surround mix.

DP--nice collection there. The German tin sounds awesome.

[Just Jeans]

Actually, Bretty (oh!, I do like that; Bretty has a nice ring to it) I think the thunder at the beginning of the mix was quite nice, too. To be honest, I really like the mix -- I just wish I had my speakers set up around the room rather than all near the TV (there's no space to spread them out). If it wasn't for the dialog track being so quiet, I'd probably rate it up there with the 5.1 on JAWS as being a pretty good mix for an elderly film.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

http://a528.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/89/l_37bcc034a631ebf20f4d388e22764d87.jpg

That's the German tin on the very left. I can post pictures of what the inside looks like, if anyone is interested.

I was at this huge store in LA yesterday that had the Halloween 5 tin. It was going for $49.99 - I'm not really a big fan of H5, so I didn't get it. I am curious as to what is in the tins. :)

If I did happen to come across the H4 tin, i'd more than likely get that one.

[The Tall Man]

Pumpkin, niiiiiiiiiiiiiiice.

I used to have the 4 and 5 tins... well, a friend of mine gave his to me, but I gave them back to him when the versions with audio commentaries for both came out and I snagged them. Liked the booklets, but had to part with them.

T.M.

[Autobotsdie]

so is anyone dressing up as Michael for Halloween?

[DarkPumpkin]

I was at this huge store in LA yesterday that had the Halloween 5 tin. It was going for $49.99 - I'm not really a big fan of H5, so I didn't get it. I am curious as to what is in the tins. :)

If I did happen to come across the H4 tin, i'd more than likely get that one.

Wow, I am so glad you did not buy that. You can easily get a copy of the H5 tin for under $25 on Ebay. Also, while the H4 tin is OOP, you can still get it off of deepdiscount.com for about 12 dollars. Really, there isn't a whole lot. You get booklets in both. You also get trailers and short making of features. I have them for completest sake and because they do look nice.

I have to update my pics. I got the H5 signed by Danielle and will have pics of the inside of the German tin.

http://a888.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/74/m_1412e96ab24ebc2470f4351339df401f.jpg

Got that at MM 9

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Front of tin

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Back of tin

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Film cell contained with tin

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Booklet and flasher with tin

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DVD case

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Theater cut, extended tv cut, documentary and original soundtrack

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Snowglobe set

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Pumpkin - Thanks for posting those pics. :) I'll definitely have to check on Ebay sometime. I actually saw a Hellraiser tin at the same exact place, for the EXACT price. :cry: They overcharge for their OOP stuff......bastards! :lol:

I'm jealous of your Danielle Harris signature. :(

[The Dream Master]

Yeah, nice pics. The German Tin does indeed look awesome. And I'm jealous of the signature, too, if only because there are never any big cons around here.

[DarkPumpkin]

Pumpkin - Thanks for posting those pics. :) I'll definitely have to check on Ebay sometime. I actually saw a Hellraiser tin at the same exact place, for the EXACT price. :cry: They overcharge for their OOP stuff......bastards! :lol:

I'm jealous of your Danielle Harris signature. :(


The Hellraiser one does command a pretty penny. I believe I paid around $35 for mine, but I am a sucker for Anchor Bay tins. But yeah, you can find the H4 and H5 tins for modest amounts on Ebay.

As for my H5 tin, Miss Harris herself asked me if she could take the wrapping off so the signature wouldn't rub off. She opened my freaking tin! Whoah! She was insanely nice.

I love my German tin. I scoured Ebay, Amazon and all over. I was about to pay over $100 for it when I found it for 23 Euros. That ended up being around $36 dollars. Mamma was very happy indeed.

However, I think I love my snowglobe set the most. I paid around $40 for mine, but have seen it go faaaaar higher. It's just really awsome, with the box it comes in and of course, the snowglobe. The scene is Michael behind the couch and Laurie getting ready to stab him with the knitting shears. It rains red glitter ala blood. It's really cool.

[hack slash]

so is anyone dressing up as Michael for Halloween?
every year

[MaDMaNMaRz]

It's been years since i've dressed up and gone trick or treating. :( In my neighborhood, we always get a few kids that are around 17-19 coming to our door. :lol: Last year, someone was dressed as a bum.

I would love to buy a Michael Myers mask, but i've never found one good enough to purchase. Most of them look pretty cheap to me.

[The Dream Master]

\: Last year, someone was dressed as a bum.


Are you sure he was dressed up? :lol:

I still dress up for my family's annual Halloween party; sometimes I wear a Myers mask, sometimes I wear something else. I usually change throughout the night just to mess with people.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Haha, that'd be funny, though. I've seen him around my neighborhood before. He's not a bum....maybe he is? :lmao: I'd laugh my ass off if a bum came to my door.

[The Dream Master]

If I were a bum, I'd try it. I mean, who would know the difference?

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Very true. :lol:

I should go trick or treating this year, but not wearing a costume. I'd be dressed how I normally would. If they ask who I am, i'll just say "I'm me". :lol:

[Deathscythe]

I still go trick or treating, but I haven't been Myers. Last year I went as The Grim Reaper, I've always wanted to go as Freddy.

[ChoKo]

Very true. :lol:

I should go trick or treating this year, but not wearing a costume. I'd be dressed how I normally would. If they ask who I am, i'll just say "I'm me". :lol:

No. You should go as Tony Danza.... and walk around Danza-slapping little kids.... and steal their candy.

:X

[TheCurse]

I was at Kroger yesterday and out front they had a pumpkin display, and it put me in the mood for Halloween, so I watched H1 and H2 last night. Has anyone started planning a Halloween movie marathon for next month? I know every year people talk about doing something like that. Same thing with people watching multiple F13 films when the 13th of the month falls on a Friday.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

No. You should go as Tony Danza.... and walk around Danza-slapping little kids.... and steal their candy.

:X

:no:......you're crazy, Pat. :lol:

[Deathscythe]

I was at Kroger yesterday and out front they had a pumpkin display, and it put me in the mood for Halloween, so I watched H1 and H2 last night. Has anyone started planning a Halloween movie marathon for next month? I know every year people talk about doing something like that. Same thing with people watching multiple F13 films when the 13th of the month falls on a Friday.

I watched H1 and H4 one the same day once, but that was it.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I was at Kroger yesterday and out front they had a pumpkin display, and it put me in the mood for Halloween, so I watched H1 and H2 last night. Has anyone started planning a Halloween movie marathon for next month? I know every year people talk about doing something like that. Same thing with people watching multiple F13 films when the 13th of the month falls on a Friday.

I watch the first 4 Halloween movies alot during October. :) I tend to watch movies that are more suspense, and atmosphere based around Halloween time, because it gets me in the Halloween spirit better. I'll throw in some gore movies, but I keep it to a minimum that time of year.

[Deathscythe]

I've only seen H2 and H3 once, I've think I've seen H4 the most.

[Rich]

Though I enjoy the first four, I think I watch the first two the most. The same goes for the Friday the 13th movies as well.

[DarkPumpkin]

Wow, you got to be kidding me...

http://cgi.ebay.com/Halloween-Michael-Myers-8-DVD-Boxset-USA-R-1-Rob-Zombie_W0QQitemZ290162780102QQihZ019QQcategoryZ617 QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I feel sorry for the poor fool who ends up buying that. All this joker did was buy one of those custom Halloween DVD box sets you can buy. I have seen that very same box, because a man makes them and sells them for around $30. That box is indeed limited, but it angers me to no end he is trying to pass this off as an official R1 release. I also recognized the spine cover art. He simply printed off some covers and made them look official.

I repeat to any potential poor saps thinking of buying this: THERE IS NOT AN OFFICIAL REGION 1 BOXSET! And even if there was, you are a damn fool to want to pay $400 for that.

[Rich]

I agree with Dark Pumpkin hear. First off, there is no R1 box set because three different companies own the series in America. Secondly, no box set with eight movies is worth $400. That is just stupid. I hope somebody on ebay reports his ass.

[DarkPumpkin]

After examining the picture further, he did exactly what I suspected. He got the artwork off of onegoodscare.net and then assembled it into a box set. I am planning on messaging him and see what he has to say for himself, and then reporting him over to ebay.

[Deathscythe]

I never shop at Ebay anyway, amazon ftw.

[Gringo Loco]

I saw a DVD of The Evil Dead THX jewel case collector's edition go for about $18 on Ebay. Why not get the Book of the Dead edition you ask? Out of all of the DVDs available, it has the best picture. It really is night and day compared to other dvds. So Ebay does have some good stuff, I wouldn't rule it out. Sorry about going off topic.

On topic of Halloween, I will be getting my copy on Blu-ray next week and I can't wait. While some people are saying it is not the Cundey approved transfer, it still looks the best it has ever looked on home video, according to others.

[Rich]

They should have made it the Cundy aproved version though. That is the best visual version of the film.

[Gringo Loco]

I agree. Anchor Bay dropped the ball on that.

[Deathscythe]

Don't worry, Anchor Bay will probably release the film 34073078 more times on Blu-ray.:D

[Chex]

Upon watching Halloween I and II again not too long ago, I noticed a couple of things I hadn't before.

In Halloween, Castle actually kept the Myers mask on when doing the drive by scenes with Annie yelling out about how speed kills despite the fact you can't really see into the car. Thanks to the zoom feature for letting me see this one.

In Halloween II, the old lady that Myers steals the kitchen knife from has the message of "call Sherrif Bracket" on her board of "things to do". I wonder if she ever did.

[Patrick]

I never noticed that about Halloween II. I'll have to check my dvd and see.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Upon watching Halloween I and II again not too long ago, I noticed a couple of things I hadn't before.

In Halloween, Castle actually kept the Myers mask on when doing the drive by scenes with Annie yelling out about how speed kills despite the fact you can't really see into the car. Thanks to the zoom feature for letting me see this one.

In Halloween II, the old lady that Myers steals the kitchen knife from has the message of "call Sherrif Bracket" on her board of "things to do". I wonder if she ever did.

I noticed that in the original Halloween. I didn't notice the board in H2, however. As many times as i've watched it, I can't believe I missed that. I'll have to look for it next time.

[Chex]

I just finally remembered her name: Mrs. Elrod.

[Joe Strummer]

I have never been able to get into Halloween. I've seen them all, especially the Rob Zombie one (which I thought was alright). I do think the first film is the best followed by 2. Halloween 1 is probably one of the best slashers ever made, but the rest after 2 just didn't do anything for me.

[Chex]

Everytime I watch Halloween, I always want to call the number that the school has posted to "ask for prom tickets". Of course I never do, but it's an urge I have to fight everytime. :p

[Utellme]

Does a double feature dvd exist for Halloween 6n7 on 1 dvd ?

[The Dream Master]

No, there's only ever been single disc releases of Halloween 6 and 7, and I think 6 is out of print now.

[Patrick]

"Harold you want mayonnaise on your sandwich. How 'bout mustard?"

[Deathscythe]

That wouldn't really make sense to put H6 and H20 together.

[The Dream Master]

Halloween 2 and 3 are packaged together. It's really just a matter of who owns them, and Dimension owns 6 and 7, so I could see a two-pack with those two possibly happening.

Hell, both films need a re-release with an anamorphic trailer.

[Deathscythe]

Doesn't Dimension also own Resurrection and Zombieween? But anyway, it just doesn't make much sense to put H6 and H20 together for me. "Hey kids, were going to package a film and its sequel that completely ignores it, YAY!"

[The Dream Master]

Yeah, Dimension owns all of those two.

Also, the home video department probably has no clue that H20 ignores H6, so that wouldn't be a factor. It'd be pretty comedic from our standpoint, though.

[Deathscythe]

Well I have the producers cut of 6, thats all I need. Maybe I'l buy H20, but I doubt I'll ever get Resurrection and Zombieween.

[Utellme]

And if part 6 is out of print thats even more reason for them to do a double feature.

And as far as 6 n 7 not fitting or make sense thats so far from there concern heck part 2 n 3 don't exactly fit right together.

[Fowlees]

Everytime I watch Halloween, I always want to call the number that the school has posted to "ask for prom tickets". Of course I never do, but it's an urge I have to fight everytime. :p

Come on Chex...It's time to give into your overwhelming , ahem, urge.

Give 'em a call....you never know your luck!!

The Origional Halloween has got to be my favourite horror flick of all time. I remember seeing it in the house on my own when i was a lad. it scared the bejesus outta me.

I went to see the re-make a few weeks back at the cinema. I went on my own (sad , i know) , at 11am on a wednesday morning and not surprisingly was the only person in the theatre (even sadder). I bet Carpenter had a right chuckle to himself over this movie. It wasn't great was it!!

[Rich]

but I doubt I'll ever get Resurrection and Zombieween.

I have them all, including Resurrection, but I'll never get Rob Zombie's Halloween. You couldn't give that piece of shit to me.

It wasn't great was it

It was far from great. As a matter of fact, it was a piece of junk. Halloween is supposed to happen on one night. Why the hell do we see Loomis deliver Michael Christmas presents? :duh:

I can see Dimension doing a tryple feature for Halloweens 6-8. They don't care about the story change. As far as they are concerned, those are the three Halloween movies they own other then Rob's, which is still new enough to sell all by itself without having to put it with a package to sell it.

[Voo-doo]

It was far from great. As a matter of fact, it was a piece of junk. Halloween is supposed to happen on one night. Why the hell do we see Loomis deliver Michael Christmas presents? :duh:


because the main event (the Strode attack) doesn't happen until the very end. :duh:

[The Dream Master]

If you're going to discuss the Halloween remake, there's a thread for it (http://www.f13-community.co.uk/board/showthread.php?t=987) in the Recent and Upcoming Films forum.

[Chex]

Come on Chex...It's time to give into your overwhelming , ahem, urge.

Give 'em a call....you never know your luck!!

But if they still have tickets, it wouldn't matter. The people I would ask are either going with Devon Graham, not actually attending, or are dead. :(

[Rich]

I bet Carpenter had a right chuckle to himself over this movie.

John got his check. That's all he cares about.

You know one of my favorite scenes in the original Halloween is when Linda is washing her clothes and you see Michael from outside the door for one second and then the door closes. That was one of the scariest moments in the movie to me. The original Halloween was so well done it is really sad to see what the directors after John have done to it.

[Deathscythe]

I thought it was Annie that washes her clothes?

[Rich]

Oh yeah. I get the girls' names mixed up all the time. Linda was PJ Soles and Annie was the dark hair one who washed her clothes. :)

[Deathscythe]

I miss PJ Souls red hat from Carrie, and Annie was played by Nancy Loomis.

[Deathscythe]

So somebody was discussing Stephen King in class and asked my history day teacher what his favorite King book was. He said Pet Sematary...and then said "if your looking for a good horror film, I recommened the original Halloween". How cool is that?

[Joshg]

Ummm, did he look at you weirdly?
LOL, kidding.

[The 5th Golden Girl]

The history teacher recommended the original Halloween, not Deathscythe.

[Joshg]

Oh, okay. I get it now. :P Dumb blond me. :D

[Ron]

So somebody was discussing Stephen King in class and asked my history day teacher what his favorite King book was. He said Pet Sematary...and then said "if your looking for a good horror film, I recommened the original Halloween". How cool is that?

That is pretty cool...i wish I had a teacher when i was in school that liked horror films half as much as me. I have great conversations with my supervisor though.

[Rich]

When I was in NJCU, my statistics teacher was a huge Halloween fan. He said he became a professor because of Dr. Loomis!

[Fowlees]

But if they still have tickets, it wouldn't matter. The people I would ask are either going with Devon Graham, not actually attending, or are dead. :(

I guess every girl wants to go to the prom with Devon Graham....he must be quite a stud.

It always amused me how Laurie Strode's date for the dance , Ben Tramer , gets killed in part 2 whilst being mistaken for Michael Myers. I love a bit of irony , me!:)

[Ron]

haha...I always forget that Ben Tramer dies in 2.

[Chex]

It's all good seeing as how he comes back for revenge in Halloween IV and attacks Loomis when he's in the school. ;)

What? Myers? Nah, that wasn't him as this Myers had blondish type hair so it obviously was Ben, back from the grave and ever so mad.

[Ron]

haha...Billy Idol Myers.

[Rich]

I never understood why they couldn't just color the hair brown instead of making it blond. That is the only thing about Halloween 4 that I don't like. It just bothers me.

[Ron]

I wonder what the story on the blonde Myers mask is??

[The Tall Man]

I don't remember what exactly it was, but there was a reason. You can find it on the Halloween 4 commentary with the writer (avoid the one with Ellie Cornelle and Danielle Harris... they don't act like they have a clue about anything).

T.M.

[Ron]

I thought that the Ellie Cornell and Danielle Harris was kinda funny.

[Autobotsdie]

So somebody was discussing Stephen King in class and asked my history day teacher what his favorite King book was. He said Pet Sematary...and then said "if your looking for a good horror film, I recommened the original Halloween". How cool is that?

Back when I was in high school drama we were talking about horror movies and half the class said they would hate being stalked by Michael Myers.

[CrazyChris187]

i love all the halloween all of them from the origianal to the remake only problem with the remake is how he gets to haddonfield imguessing maybe he stole Joey Grizzlly's truck

[blood bath]

the original is the best easy. after watching the remake and seeing how he got the mask i started thinking about how he got it in the original. in the sequels they show them at the store. did he get his from the store or did they start making them after his mask becoame infamous?

[The Tall Man]

Blood, in the original Myers steals his mask from a store (offscreen). Sheriff Brackett talks about the break-in during the scene where Annie and Laurie are trying to play off that they've been smoking weed (Myers stole something else... rope maybe?).

T.M.

[Autobotsdie]

Rope and a knife from what I remember.

[Rich]

"All they took was a Halloween mask, a rope, and a couple of knives..." was the quote from the movie.

[Scarecrow]

"All they took was a Halloween mask, a rope, and a couple of knives..." was the quote from the movie.


Obviously it was kids...



- Scarecrow

[Swahili]

Obviously it was kids...



- Scarecrow

You blame everything on kids.

[Utellme]

Totallllllly, You like what you see,

so who cares i allways forget my chemistry book and my math book and my English book,lets see my French book oh who needs books anyway i allway's forget all my books,doesn't really matter if you forget your books

[Wolfgang]

The greatest horror film of all time. I love this movie! This film is pure suspense and I love it. The film that started it all.

[Patrick]

We just watched episode 2 of Cheers season 3 and P.J. Soles was in it. She was playing a new girlfriend to Sam. I was hoping she would say, "Totally!" But she never did....lol. She had this big-ass hairdo though.

[Rich]

The film that started it all.

It started all of what? The only thing the original Halloween started was the Halloween series. There were slasher/stalker/body count movies before Halloween.

[Scarecrow]

It started all of what? The only thing the original Halloween started was the Halloween series. There were slasher/stalker/body count movies before Halloween.

But they never started a trend. Halloween came at the right time,w ith the right mixture of commercial and critical success. It combined everything previous in such a way and sparked off the whole eighties slasher genre. Just because it wasn't the veryu first doesn't mean it didn't start anything.


- Scarecrow

[Rich]

You are right it started the trend, but I find it annoying how people make it out to be the thing that started the genre, because it really wasn't.

[Utellme]

One could say Texas Chainsaw Massacre started it . Either way imo F 13TH 1,2 are every bgit as good as Halloween.

[James M]

There's a 30th anniversary set coming for Halloween, but it's useless. It has nothing new.

http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=6952

What about that recently found "lost footage?"

[Rich]

I want that lost footage to surface.

[Deathscythe]

How many times has Halloween been rereleased anyway? Heh, I wonder if there are people that own them all.

[El Rooto]

I'm going to by that since I don't own 4 and 5 on DVD yet.

[Jigsaw]

I may buy that just for the extended cut of the original film, but the price is awfully high and I already own Halloween 4 and 5, as well as 25 Years Of Terror. Maybe I should just keep on looking for the OOP extended cut in pawn shops and hope to find it someday :meh:

[The 5th Golden Girl]

so who cares i allways forget my chemistry book and my math book and my English book,lets see my French book oh who needs books anyway i allway's forget all my books,doesn't really matter if you forget your books

That's one of my favorite horror movie quotes ever... definitely in the top 5. I want a poster of it to hang in my classroom when I'm an English teacher. ;)

I still do not own this on DVD. I keep putting off buying a copy. I don't know why. I guess I'm content with my taped-off-TV VHS copy from the 80s (I love the extra footage used for TV versions) and the bought widescreen VHS copy I have from, like, 199-something.

[SlasherFreak]

This comes on tomorrow at 9 pm (Eastern time) on the Independant Film Channel and again at 2:30 am (Eastern Time).

[Rich]

I really don't like the cut footage in the tv extended version. It does nothing for the story and flows the pace of the film down. THe only scene I like in it is when Loomis confronts Michael saying "you haven't fooled me." The rest of those scenes are a waste.

[Theta]

I saw this movie on TV, but I was like, five? Thank god for that, now the DVD and that seems the same?

[Scarecrow]

I really don't like the cut footage in the tv extended version. It does nothing for the story and flows the pace of the film down. THe only scene I like in it is when Loomis confronts Michael saying "you haven't fooled me." The rest of those scenes are a waste.

I pretty much agree and whislt I like the Loomis scene it also feels pointless to me. It's too slow, and loses the sense of passing forward those 15 years but stopping off for these random events thatw ere never vital.


- Scarecrow

[Lammert]

The extended version is pointless unless you're going to watch Halloween 2.

[Chex]

This year's annual release of Halloween just seems like it's composed of left over discs.

• HALLOWEEN Restored
• HALLOWEEN Extended Edition
• HALLOWEEN 25 YEARS OF TERROR: Disc 1
• HALLOWEEN 4 DiviMax
• HALLOWEEN 5 DiviMax
• HALLOWEEN Blu-ray (bonus disc)

Why is there a blue-ray disc? Why is Halloween IV and V there considering this is titled Halloween: 30th Anniversary set? Also, wasn't the 25 Years of Terror 2 discs? If so, why does this contain just one?

Meh, this just reeks of the company realizing it's that time of the year again to release the annual edition and just not having much to put out. It's neat that it comes with a mediocre looking mask, but for the price of $90, it's not worth it. I'm sure it'll go for cheaper at certain locations and by next Halloween, even more so. I wouldn't be surprised if next year's at least contains "30th anniversary convention footage!" or something.

Honestly, save the $90 and put it towards expenses on attending the 30 year convention instead.

[DarkPumpkin]

How many times has Halloween been rereleased anyway? Heh, I wonder if there are people that own them all.

Looks around sheepishly and raises hand. We can also add VHS editions to the mix as well. In all fairness, I didn't pay full retail for all of them. For instance, I won the recent re-re-re-re-release from AB at Monster Mania last year, the one with the glow in the dark pumpkin. The question was "Who executive produced Halloween?" and I correctly shouted out "Irwin Yablans."

So yes, I own all the R1 releases of Halloween because I am a complete nut case like that. I adore "Halloween" to the point of trekking across the country to see it on the big screen, drive in, etc.

But nothing will ever top my limited edition "Perfect Edition" of Halloween from Germany. It's limited to 6600 copies, comes with the soundtrack, a film cell, a pumpkin keychain and an awesome tin of Michael. I also am partial to my snow globe VHS box set of Halloween as well. Now that is a package that was put together nicely.

I agree that this 30th anniversary edition is lackluster at best. Unless I get it as a present (and I no doubt will), it's nothing special. Even the packaging is "meh" on it. I am so sick and tired of the "Barney Fife as Michael Myers" masks and that is what the mask on the package looks like. It IS nice if you never picked up any of the films, but really, how many true Halloween fans don't already have the movies in their collections?

Some people were saying they would buy it for the OOP Extended Edition. My advice is to hunt Ebay. You can still find copies of the OOP Limited Edition set that contains the Extended Cut for relatively cheap. Heck, even the Extended Cut itself is fairly cheap. It's just if you are hunting for the uber rare Circuit City exclusive with the film cell that you shell upwards of 90+ for.

[Chex]

Some people were saying they would buy it for the OOP Extended Edition. My advice is to hunt Ebay. You can still find copies of the OOP Limited Edition set that contains the Extended Cut for relatively cheap. Heck, even the Extended Cut itself is fairly cheap. It's just if you are hunting for the uber rare Circuit City exclusive with the film cell that you shell upwards of 90+ for.

I worked at a Hollywood Video for a few years and our "new dvd" section had out of print dvd's such as the aformentioned Halloween,Phantasm and Phantasm IV, Fight Club soap box edition, among other things. I'd say check around there as well simply because the prices were normally much higher than anywhere else. Also, sometimes the workers wouldn't update the stickers. I ended up buying a few of the Friday the 13th single dvd's before I left for $3.99 new.

[Grizzlyman]

I live in California and a friend/film partner of mine came out for a visit and we were able to tour around Southern Pasadena a few weeks ago where the Halloween locations were filmed. We were able to see the original Michael Myers house which was relocated right across the street from the original hardware store were Charles Cyphers discovers the Halloween mask, rope and knives stolen from. The Myers house is currently a realty office/hair saloon. We also were able to see the hedge were Michael Myers was standing, and to our amazement, we took a little walk down an alley as a shortcut and discovered it was the alley that Michael Myers took in Halloween II to escape from Donald Pleaseance.

What was really nice is that when we visited the Strode house, the current residences there had a nice little setup on their outside porch with Halloween still photographs and pumpkins and encouraged on lookers to take pictures of the house.

I will tell you what really baffled me was the location of the Wallace and Doyle houses. It ends up that both houses were basically right down the street from the Roosevelt Hollywood Hotel were we were staying at, and they filmed right there in neighboring residences of downtown Hollywood just a few yards up the street from Sunset Blvd!

It is strange when you look at the film, because you would not think in a million years that just a few yards down the street when Michael Myers walks across to chase after Laurie, is the famous movie strip, and the houses actually reside on a street that goes up hill! Carpenter obviously was very creative at setting up these interesting camera angles to hide all of this… including the many palm trees! :p

[SlasherFreak]

This question was on the Halloween forum

*ducks bottles and bricks being thrown at him!*

Why did Loomis go to the cemetary?


An extremely good question...anyone here have any theories???

[Chex]

This question was on the Halloween forum

*ducks bottles and bricks being thrown at him!*

Why did Loomis go to the cemetary?


An extremely good question...anyone here have any theories???

I remember reading that topic. Numerous pages and there wasn't an exact, for sure answer.

I'm quite partial to "He was making his rounds around places that would be important to Michael. He just happened to go to the cemetary first instead of the house as he wanted help with him when he ventured there".

[Jigsaw]

Thinking it over, no way am I buying the 30th anniversary set, unless I find it for uber-cheap. I own almost every disc it comes with sans the Blu-ray and the extended cut of H1, and as much as I want the H1 extended cut, I won't fork over $90 for it.

[DRE]

I'm content with my self-made Halloween Ultimate set (The Limited Edition set with the Extended TV version and the Bonus disc from the Divimax Anniversary Edition.) I don't need to buy this film again.

[The Dream Master]

Don't forget the 25 Years of Terror doc. That's quite a nice "special feature."

[Jigsaw]

I'm still on the lookout for the OOP Limited Edition set with the correct coloration of the film and the extended cut. Pawn shops and other places that sell used DVDs are the best bet to find it nowadays.

[The Dream Master]

You'd be better off just buying the extended cut alone. It's not as rare, and it doesn't command as high a price as the LE set.

[Jigsaw]

I know Anchor Bay released a DVD of H1 last year in a holographic slipcover with the color-corrected cut of the film, so I'll probably buy that eventually (I see it going for cheap at a lot of places) and I'll just try to find the extended cut in pawn shops. How high does the LE usually go for, anyway?

[The Dream Master]

Well, right now there's one on Ebay for $30 used, which is only $9 more than the cheapest extended version, but I still think the LE is the more rare of the two.

[Jigsaw]

Depending on the pawn shop, some pawn shops may carry it for cheaper or around that range, if the owners know of the rarity. In any case, I'll be on the lookout for the extended cut.

[DRE]

I still hold the Halloween: LE as a prized part of my collection, it still looks and sounds fantastic. That and my Army of Darkness LE (now gone, thanks to sticky fingers), were really amongst the most rare discs I had, and now I'll probably have to pay upwards of $80 to get AOD:LE back sealed, if I can even find it.

[Sean [The Wildcard]]

I've doubled Dipped enough, their is NO way I am ever going to buy another Special Edition again.

Unless they have an endless amount of Special Features and a crazy amount of discs to go with it...all with NEW stuff.

[Jigsaw]

I still hold the Halloween: LE as a prized part of my collection, it still looks and sounds fantastic. That and my Army of Darkness LE (now gone, thanks to sticky fingers), were really amongst the most rare discs I had, and now I'll probably have to pay upwards of $80 to get AOD:LE back sealed, if I can even find it.


That sucks you lost your AOD LE. The Boomstick Edition is out of print now too and I haven't been able to find it anywhere. I'm glad I got my copy at Suncoast three years back for only $9.99 plus tax.

[DarkPumpkin]

I still hold the Halloween: LE as a prized part of my collection, it still looks and sounds fantastic. That and my Army of Darkness LE (now gone, thanks to sticky fingers), were really amongst the most rare discs I had, and now I'll probably have to pay upwards of $80 to get AOD:LE back sealed, if I can even find it.

Do you have any Half-Price Book stores in your area? They have served as an amazing treasure trove for rare gems for me. I was able to find a copy of AOD:LE for 8 dollars in mint condition there. I also picked up my Extended Edition of Halloween there as well as my Exorcist box set.

My advice would be to try to hold out as long as possible until after the box set has been released. I am sure there will be several people trading in parts of the set they either don't want, already have or can't view. You should be able to pick up just an Extended Cut then.

Now, why did Loomis go to the cemetery? It really is a great question that will likely remain with an ambiguous answer. My take: It was Michael's murder of Judith that brought him under the watchful eye of Loomis to begin with, so it seems reasonable that Loomis may have suspected that Michael would extract some sort of desecration and destruction upon the grave of the sister he so apparently hated.

I also find it reasonable that Michael was playing mind-games with Loomis the whole time. The whole series was framed around the cat and mouse games between the two. Michael had to have known that Loomis would be tracking him down. Going and stealing his sister's headstone not only momentarily distracts Loomis from his pursuit, but also allows Michael to further eat away at Loomis.

Now what really intrigues me: The story the cemetery keeper was telling about the seemingly normal Charlie who got up from the dinner table and apparently murdered his family...........Loomis cuts him off before he can ever finish.

[DRE]

Do you have any Half-Price Book stores in your area? They have served as an amazing treasure trove for rare gems for me. I was able to find a copy of AOD:LE for 8 dollars in mint condition there. I also picked up my Extended Edition of Halloween there as well as my Exorcist box set.


We actually have a few of those here in Houston, I'll have to check them out. Thanks DP.

[Jigsaw]

We don't have those places here in Las Vegas, unfortunately :( We do have Wal-Mart, Target, Best Buy, Circuit City, Frye's, K-Mart, Suncoast and a bunch of pawn chains like SuperPawn, EZ Pawn and PawnPlus, to name a few.

[DarkPumpkin]

We don't have those places here in Las Vegas, unfortunately :( We do have Wal-Mart, Target, Best Buy, Circuit City, Frye's, K-Mart, Suncoast and a bunch of pawn chains like SuperPawn, EZ Pawn and PawnPlus, to name a few.

I'll keep on the hunt for you Jiggy. We have also have used record chains around here called The Exchange and I search there all the time for rare DVDs. I'll pick you up a copy if I come across it. :D

[Ron]

Up in the New England area we have a Newbury Comics chain and they're pretty good...I found Children of the Corn II in mint condition for like 3 bucks. I'm not sure if it's OOP, but I could have sworn that I read somewhere that it was, but don't quote me on that. It's a shame that they don't have Newbury Comics stores nationwide. I know that you can order from them online, but you'd wouldn't be able to grab onto any rare finds.

[Rich]

The extended version is pointless unless you're going to watch Halloween 2

I can happily watch Halloween II without watching the extended version of the first one. There have been many times when I watched either the first two, first three, or even the first four in a row as a little marathon and I have watched the theatrical version of the original every time. :)

Why is there a blue-ray disc? Why is Halloween IV and V there considering this is titled Halloween: 30th Anniversary set? Also, wasn't the 25 Years of Terror 2 discs? If so, why does this contain just one?

On the other hand, if you don't own any of the Halloween films on dvd yet, this is the closest thing we will ever get to a Halloween box set in America.

How many times has Halloween been rereleased anyway? Heh, I wonder if there are people that own them all

Do you mean all the Halloween films or all the editions of the original ever released? I own all the films on dvd. I own two different editions of the original. I own the Restored edition and the 25th Anniversary Divimax edition. I also own the 25 Years of Terror release.

I have absolutely no reason to buy this set whatsoever. I own the films in it. I don't care about the tv extended version. I don't own a Blu-Ray disc player (and when I do, I'll just buy the film). I already have an officially liscensed Michael Myers mask. I do not need anything to do with that box set. It is a good release however, for anyone who does not own any of the Halloween films yet, because as I stated, it is probably the closest thing to a Halloween box set American will ever get...unless Dimension ever decides to make a little box set out of the four films they have.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Up in the New England area we have a Newbury Comics chain and they're pretty good...I found Children of the Corn II in mint condition for like 3 bucks. I'm not sure if it's OOP, but I could have sworn that I read somewhere that it was, but don't quote me on that. It's a shame that they don't have Newbury Comics stores nationwide. I know that you can order from them online, but you'd wouldn't be able to grab onto any rare finds.

Children of the Corn II is infact OOP. $3 is a pretty good deal for it. Although, I don't recall ever seeing it get up that much in price.

[Jigsaw]

I'll keep on the hunt for you Jiggy. We have also have used record chains around here called The Exchange and I search there all the time for rare DVDs. I'll pick you up a copy if I come across it. :D


Thanks! :cool:

[DarkPumpkin]

http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=937

That will give you a much better rundown of the re-releases than I could. :)

[Jigsaw]

Thanks for the link, it's helpful. It's amazing how many DVD re-releases H1 has gotten.

[The Dream Master]

I wonder why AB didn't package the re-released '99 disc with the extras disc from the Divimax set last year. They're probably saving that for the future. :X

Seriously, they need to take whatever they used for the '99 disc and give it a high-def transfer that retains the original color timing, put the commentary from the Divimax on the disc, dedicate a disc for the TV version, and put the supplements disc on there too. That'd be a decent release. The Blu-ray edition is close: it dropped one of the featurettes from the Divimax disc, and the color timing was just a bit off still.

[Jigsaw]

I don't see why the Divimax disc couldn't have ported over the features from the LE in addition to the new features and also include both the theatrical and extended cuts.

[The Dream Master]

I forgot about the "Halloween Unmasked" feature on the '99 disc, but I think the commentary and the feature-length doc from the Divimax more than make up for that. Besides, not porting over that extra is the least of my concerns with the Divimax. I'd rather have the '99 disc with the right transfer and less features than that Divimax version.

Also, that website doesn't list the very first Halloween DVD release from AB in 1997, which looked like ass. :X

[Jigsaw]

I've heard about the original AB disc, the transfer supposedly is terrible.

[Rich]

I don't know if the restored edition was the original AB disc, but the transfer was not bad at all in it. Of course the divimax edition has a much better higher definition transfer, but they made some mistakes in desaturating some of the lighting that Dean Cundey put into the film. All the blues turn into greys.

[The Dream Master]

I don't know if the restored edition was the original AB disc, but the transfer was not bad at all in it. Of course the divimax edition has a much better higher definition transfer, but they made some mistakes in desaturating some of the lighting that Dean Cundey put into the film. All the blues turn into greys.

The original AB disc came out in '97. The "Restored Edition" that came out last year is just the '99 disc repackaged. Repacking that disc was essentially AB admitting their mistake with the Divimax release.

[SlasherFreak]

Ok...which release of Halloween has the right colors and such???

[The Dream Master]

The '99 release, also known as the "restored edition" that was re-released last year. Not the Divimax 25th Anniversary version.

[Rich]

But now if they can remaster the restored edition with the same picture quality as the diximax had and give you the commentary and disc two of the divi edition, that would be the ultimate edition of the original.

I don't think AB admitted anything. I think they just wanted to re-release the film to capitolize off of the name as a result of Rob's film and they knew they weren't going to sell it for $25 dollars again being that we are in the Wal-Mart dvd era. I think it was nothing more then a piece of business, not an appology or admittance of any sort.

[The Dream Master]

I don't think AB admitted anything. I think they just wanted to re-release the film to capitolize off of the name as a result of Rob's film and they knew they weren't going to sell it for $25 dollars again being that we are in the Wal-Mart dvd era. I think it was nothing more then a piece of business, not an appology or admittance of any sort.

It was a cash-in, but they could have easily re-released the Divimax disc; however, they didn't, and they specifically referred to the re-release of the '99 disc as the "restored" version in reference to the color timing. This was AB acknowledging that the '99 version is the correct version, not the Divimax.

Besides, we know that AB knows about the color timing fiasco because JP told us so at the old board; plus the Blu-ray version fixed some of the problems with the Divimax too.

[DarkPumpkin]

I still can't help but have a cynical feeling that AB is waiting to acquire the "found footage" of Halloween and re-re-re-re-release it on a remastered DVD along with some of the other extras. The timing would have been absolutely perfect for it with the 30th. Perhaps they are waiting until December, when the 3 disk set of Zombie's Halloween is released. :side:

All I know is that AB isn't done milking their cash cow yet. AB...the house that Halloween built. :D

[Chex]

I still can't help but have a cynical feeling that AB is waiting to acquire the "found footage" of Halloween and re-re-re-re-release it on a remastered DVD along with some of the other extras.

For every statement made by those guys that sounds positive, there's a negative one elsewhere to be found. Last they said was that it doesn't look hopeful nor worth anyone's time to actually put it on a dvd release as it's all a mess looking with no sound in the least. Going from that and considering Anchor Bay isn't who they once were since being merged with Starz, it's iffy.

However, I will say all it takes is for them to find the alternate ending scenes that were shot (according to Wallace) that'll push them to sell it: Halloween: Alternate Ending Edition!
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Perhaps they are waiting until December, when the 3 disk set of Zombie's Halloween is released.

It's actually coming out on October 21st, but that probably doesn't matter as I think I'm the only person on this board who'll pick it up sometime. :p

[DarkPumpkin]

Ahh thanks Chex. Last I read it was being released on December 18th, but that is smart of them to release it around actual Halloween. My birthday is on the 17th, so I will accept it as a gift but won't spend the moolah myself.

I would still be interested in seeing these so-called scenes. It would be a nice addition as an extra on a release. It would be easy to explain what is going on with no sound. You could either do commentary or get a screen explaining what is happening. AB has sworn how many times that 11,000 release of Evil Dead would be the definitive last edition, and look how that has turned out. ;)

[Rich]

I just watched the first two together yesterday and I still can not believe how different the two films are. The original Halloween still has the power to draw you in and make you sit closer to your television set.

Halloween II is a grusome follow up to the original which in it's own right is still a classic slasher film, but it does not reach the heights of the original, and frankly, none of the sequels really do.

This was AB acknowledging that the '99 version is the correct version

They are a studio. Corrections or no corrections. They are not appologizing or admitting anything. They are doing business plain and simple.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Does anyone else here have the AB 2 Tape Limited Edition? I've had it since it first came out. The tapes are orange, and it also came with a keychain and a mini booklet with pics.

Tape 1:

-Feature film in widescreen 2.35:1

-Newly Mastered, April 1998, Using a state of the art DVNR noise/scratch corrector

- Color Enhanced with the Davinci 4.4.4. unified color correction system

Tape 2:

- "Halloween Unmasked" featurette (including 1998 interviews with Nick Castle, Deborah Hill, Moustapha Akkad, and Jamie Lee Curtis)

- Network scenes, TV spots, Theatrical Trailers, Radio Spots, and Still Gallery

It was limited to only 40,000 copies. Mine is 13,877.

[Chex]

Does anyone else here have the AB 2 Tape Limited Edition? I've had it since it first came out.

Same here as a buddy and I both bought ours the moment they were released. I'm not sure of the number though as I'd have to check. For the longest time the keychain was the one I primarily used...until the graphics wore off of it and it became somewhat ugly. :p

[The Dream Master]

They are a studio. Corrections or no corrections. They are not appologizing or admitting anything. They are doing business plain and simple.

At no point did I say it was an "apology"; but yes, it is an admission when they chose to release an 8 year old disc instead of the 25th Anniversary disc that was half as old. It was called the "restored" edition precisely because the original color timing was, in fact, restored. You can have your "AB is a big evil corporation" mindset all you want, but the fact is they know about the color timing fiasco and have done something about it. Do we still have a perfect release? No, but we all know there will be a re-release in the future that likely has a new transfer and the correct color timing.

[DarkPumpkin]

Does anyone else here have the AB 2 Tape Limited Edition? I've had it since it first came out. The tapes are orange, and it also came with a keychain and a mini booklet with pics.

Tape 1:

-Feature film in widescreen 2.35:1

-Newly Mastered, April 1998, Using a state of the art DVNR noise/scratch corrector

- Color Enhanced with the Davinci 4.4.4. unified color correction system

Tape 2:

- "Halloween Unmasked" featurette (including 1998 interviews with Nick Castle, Deborah Hill, Moustapha Akkad, and Jamie Lee Curtis)

- Network scenes, TV spots, Theatrical Trailers, Radio Spots, and Still Gallery

It was limited to only 40,000 copies. Mine is 13,877.


Yes, I also have it. Actually, I have two sets. One in the package, and one that is open so I could get at the keychain. I still use the keychain too. :D

I always liked that Mikey's face is barely visible on the cover.

[Chex]

MMM- I checked the number on mine and it's 1633.

Seeing the edition reminds of when I brought it to school to let a friend and borrow it and someone had seen me holding it and only caught a glimpse of the side. For some reason,they thought it was a bible and asked me about it. I remember saying something like:

"Oh, uh, yeah. I'm reading the part where it says "and Loomis spoke unto shepherd Brackett and spoke of "the blackest eyes, the devil's eyes." From this we learn to always carry a gun with you as it will heighten your sense of security. Also, make sure you have a permit."

I'm sure the response was simply a O_o look, but it was worth it. :p

Ahh thanks Chex. Last I read it was being released on December 18th, but that is smart of them to release it around actual Halloween. My birthday is on the 17th, so I will accept it as a gift but won't spend the moolah myself.

Your welcome. I actually read it somewhere about an hour before I saw your post so the info was fresh in my mind. At least you'll get a free copy where as I'll buy it and then have to contend with "ewww, you paid money for that?" :p

[Chex]

I was reading some of the novel that's based on the original shooting script and something popped up that I thought was interesting besides the tie in to the cult that I believe Farrands took hold of and changed into Thorn.

It's mentioned about how Michael gets a sort of sexual arrousal when killing the teen girls. Now from most posts I've read, this already throws people off and think it's ridiculous. To me, it makes sense when looking back and recalling the film as he's always breathing hard in the "kill" scenes when he's going after someone.

Since it's based on the original shooting script, it makes me wonder if Carpenter intended to push this further, if this was truly an idea at one point, or if it's purely random how the film portrays this somewhat (in some viewpoints).

[SlasherFreak]

I was reading some of the novel that's based on the original shooting script and something popped up that I thought was interesting besides the tie in to the cult that I believe Farrands took hold of and changed into Thorn.

It's mentioned about how Michael gets a sort of sexual arrousal when killing the teen girls. Now from most posts I've read, this already throws people off and think it's ridiculous. To me, it makes sense when looking back and recalling the film as he's always breathing hard in the "kill" scenes when he's going after someone.

Since it's based on the original shooting script, it makes me wonder if Carpenter intended to push this further, if this was truly an idea at one point, or if it's purely random how the film portrays this somewhat (in some viewpoints).

I've read that serial killers, even ones not sexually motivated (like son of sam and the zodiac) often get sexual arrousal out of their crimes anyway.

[The Dream Master]

I was reading some of the novel that's based on the original shooting script and something popped up that I thought was interesting besides the tie in to the cult that I believe Farrands took hold of and changed into Thorn.

It's mentioned about how Michael gets a sort of sexual arrousal when killing the teen girls. Now from most posts I've read, this already throws people off and think it's ridiculous. To me, it makes sense when looking back and recalling the film as he's always breathing hard in the "kill" scenes when he's going after someone.

Since it's based on the original shooting script, it makes me wonder if Carpenter intended to push this further, if this was truly an idea at one point, or if it's purely random how the film portrays this somewhat (in some viewpoints).

Well, if you can see it and support with stuff that's in the movie, it's there whether it was intended or not. It's not like you're saying "Michael gets off on killing because it's just my theory and it's only a movie lol." :p

I personally like to see Michael as killing for no discernable reason whatsoever. It's just something he's compelled to do just because he can. That makes him more enigmatic in my eyes.