Smallville (Thursdays on the CW)

[Just Jeans]

With series 6 about to start in the UK, and with many of our fan friends still having not seen the series from one end to the other, we ask that you keep all information regarding series 6 and 7 in spoiler tags. Thanks muchly.


Well, here we are again -- back for another round of the soap opera with super powers that is Smallville. :lol:

The first three episode titles have been revealed over at KryptonSite (Bizarro, Kara and Fierce) and a major bit of casting has been revealed:

People Magazine has revealed that Laura Vandervoort has nabbed the role of Kara, a.k.a. Supergirl, in the upcoming seventh season of Smallville.

"She's a combination of beauty, intelligence, a certain warmth, and great attitude," Smallville co-creator Al Gough told People. "We've wanted a character to shake things up. She may be Clark Kent's cousin, but that doesn't mean she's going to be the obedient one!"

22-year-old Vandervoort might be most recognizable to fans for her role on The N's Instant Star.

Mike Ausiello of TV Guide has revealed that actor Michael Cassidy (Hidden Palms, The O.C.) has been cast as the Daily Planet's new editor, Grant.

Grant makes his first appearance in the season's second episode.


Also, a press release from the CW:


SUPERGIRL FLIES INTO "SMALLVILLE" DC COMICS' SUPERHEROINE JOINS THE CAST

BURBANK, CA (June 11, 2007) - Look, up in the sky: it's a bird, it's a plane! It's...Supergirl! This fall, Supergirl will be joining the lineup of burgeoning superheroes and villains in SMALLVILLE. Supergirl is the latest DC Comics character to join the series that has previously welcomed Martian Manhunter, The Green Arrow, The Flash, Aquaman, Cyborg and Brainiac. Casting for the Supergirl role is currently underway. SMALLVILLE airs on Thursdays at 8:00-9:00 p.m. ET on The CW.

On SMALLVILLE, the seventh season premiere kicks off with the arrival of Supergirl, whose name is Kara, as Clark's (Tom Welling) 19-year-old cousin. She was born on Krypton and is the daughter of Zor-El, Jor-El's brother. Kara possesses all of Clark's powers and one he doesn't yet have ?? she can fly! Kara also has a strong, rebellious streak that puts her at odds with Clark, and puts her onto Lex's (Michael Rosenbaum) radar. In addition, she takes a romantic interest in Jimmy Olsen (Aaron Ashmore).

"One of the joys of creating SMALLVILLE has been our ability to reinvent and reinterpret classic DC Comics characters," said SMALLVILLE executive producer Al Gough. "Miles and I believe that Supergirl will give our series the mythic jolt that it needs as we head into our seventh season."

Reinterpreting the Superman mythology from its roots, SMALLVILLE was developed for television by Alfred Gough & Miles Millar ("Shanghai Noon," "Spiderman 2"), based on the DC Comics characters. Gough and Millar serve as executive producers, along with Ken Horton, Kelly Souders & Brian Peterson, Todd Slavkin & Darren Swimmer, James Marshall, Mike Tollin, Brian Robbins and Joe Davola. The series is produced by Tollin/Robbins Productions, Millar/Gough Ink and Warner Bros. Television. SUPERMAN was created by Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster.

Allison Mack now has an official MySpace page (http://www.myspace.com/allisonmack) as well.

[Darth Sinister]

Looks like from the discription, they're using the current version of Kara Zor-El. One who was sent to Earth to take care of Kal, but due to her being stuck inside a Kryptonite meteor, she was unable to keep up with Clark on his journey. In the time since her 2004 debut, she has had an attitude with Clark who has been trying to do what the Kents had done for him. But she's resented him for it.

So far, so good all around.

[The Dark Vampire]

I posted this on the other site but I'll post it here to

The UK finally gets series 6 next week (July 22 9pm E4) so if it's possible can any news relating to that series be kept in spoiler tags

[Just Jeans]

I made a note of it in the first post, DV.

[TheShowstoppa]

Honestly, I cannot fuckin' wait for this. I'm more hyped about this than Supernatural, and I've pretty much just rewatched both seasons. Kara coming to Smallville is going to kick so much ass... plus she's HOT! Although, I'm hoping totally that Lana indeed does not come back. I'm sick of seeing her pissy face. I don't want to her about how Clark does or doesn't save lives, and for fuck's SAKE am I sick of Clark WHINING over her. GROW UP MAN! You're soon to be the world's greatest Superhero! Grow a pair!

[Darth Sinister]

Well, from the rumors, Lana will be back though it's suggested that she won't be right away.

[Special Killa B]

I can't wait for the new season! I'm still hoping they squeeze one more season out of this because I don't think I'm ready to see it end yet!

[hack slash]

Here's Supergirl
Series Seven Actress. (http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h268/spyderweb27/1.jpg)


Has to do with a season 7 spoiler. I left the link to view since it contains no spoiler information.

[TheShowstoppa]

Season 7 Airs September 27th! Here's some spoiler info about the first two episodes taken from Kryptonsite.

New spoilers from S.A.M.: Lex is rescued from a watery grave by a mysterious blond woman. Do the math and it's pretty clear who that blond woman may be.


More spoilers from S.A.M., regarding Chloe in the morgue: "Actually it's Clark who saves her. After being informed by the nurse that Chloe has been moved to the morgue, he hears her screaming and uses his supervision to scan the body drawers, where he sees her thrashing around."



Ep. 2

New spoilers from S.A.M.: Lex, determined to find out who the blond woman is that rescued him, sketches the woman and has his minions searching for her. (The blond woman is Kara)
- Also from S.A.M.: Lex also has his people looking for someone else, using voice recognition software. They find who they are looking for in China. Could this person that he has found possibly be Lana, alive after all? We don't know, but it could be...


Kara expects "Kal-El" to be a baby upon her arrival. She first looks for him in the nursery at the hospital; later, she thinks little boys at a playground may be Kal-El. (Thanks S.A.M.!)
- After about two seasons of very little interaction, we finally get a scene between Chloe and Lex.


So can anyone tell me what it is about the House of El's saving Lex from a goddamn river? I'm kinda upset that we're revisiting the first season, however, now everyone knows what Lex really is, it'll be great to see it in this new way.

[Just Jeans]

I think Kara saving Lex from the river is absolutely perfect. Very poignant -- the man has been saved by the House of El twice, both times before he's even met either of them properly, both times from drowning. And both times the world would have been better off had they let him drown. Brilliant.

I wonder if Lex will end up in control of Kara in the show? I seem to recall that in one version of events, she was working for him/with him.

[Darth Sinister]

Lex had met the Post Crisis Supergirl/Matrix not long after she awoke on Earth, after travelling from the Pocket Earth. She was repulsed by him. Later, she met Lex when he was pretending to be his own son, after having his brain removed and a new clone body grown around it to ensure his survival. Matrix fell in love with Lex in this form and he wanted to use create an army from her protoplasm. Once she learned what he was doing and who he was, she turned on him and was ultimately stopped by Superman. Later after becoming Linda Danvers, Supergirl/Matrix ran into Lex. After Kara Zor-El was reintroduced, Lex tried to use black Kryptonite to control Kara, but it split her in two. With the evil side nearly killing Lex.

Having Kara be the savior will help as it will keep Lex off of Clark, since he's always trying to determine if Clark is as he pretends to be.

[DoomDS]

Someone over at Kryptonsite was able to see KARA

Quote fromKsite

I saw them filimng...! Post #1 of 14


I was around the BB studios today and saw them filming a scene with kara I believe outside. She was wearing a very white, sheer toga like dress and like silver undergarments. As well I saw the new guy who is going to work at the Daily Planet.
He was posing for some type of photos with a guy dressed up in a blue and white baseball uniform.


This is a Detailed Look from Kryptonsite.com




Episode #7-3: "Fierce" Air Date: October 2007

Written By: Holly Harold
Directed By: Whitney Ransick
Guest Stars: Michael Cassidy (Grant Gabriel), Laura Vandervoort (Kara/Supergirl)

- UPDATED 7/19/07: Clark takes Kara to Smallville's annual Harvest Festival, where she decides to join the Miss Sweet Corn Pageant. So much for staying incognito.
- Kara gets a job at the Talon and has a conversation with the establishment's folically-challenged owner. Lex is very curious about her...
- Chloe gets the scoop on a major story for the Planet.
- And, some more spoilers from S.A.M.: At the Sweet Corn Pageant, Kara encounters three tough competitors.... so tough, they kill one of the contestants using their various powers (heat, cold, weather), and frame Kara.
- Clark and Kara have a surprise visitor in the barn.

- UPDATED 7/16/07: Erica Durance and John Glover do not appear in this episode, but Aaron Ashmore does.

- UPDATED 7/11/07: Title Posted. Please do not repost this on other websites without a link to KryptonSite.com.

[TheShowstoppa]

Doom, make sure you read prior post before posting again. I had already posted those two things about the first two episodes of the season, however, thank you for the spoilers (from Kryptonsite) about the third ep. I did, however, leave the other spoilers in there as they haven't yet been posted here.

[DoomDS]

Doom, make sure you read prior post before posting again. I had already posted those two things about the first two episodes of the season, however, thank you for the spoilers (from Kryptonsite) about the third ep. I did, however, leave the other spoilers in there as they haven't yet been posted here.

Sorry just copyed and pasted didnt see what i did.. I was just thinking I:duh: was posting about the 3rd. I was bein lazy.

[On a Pale Horse]

Who is Fierce ?

[TheShowstoppa]

Who is Fierce ?


That would be a title to a season 7 episode. As far as I know, no one goes by that name.

[DoomDS]

Smallville's creator Alfred Gough had an interview with Voices from krypton and gave us some big news about Clark.He will Fly more than just a few lessons Give it a listen!

http://darkcommandos.typepad.com/voices_from_krypton/2007/07/al-gough-on-sma.html

From Kryptonsite.com

[Just Jeans]

Random bits of info/spoilers:

The Martian Manhunter will be appearing in season 7, and is set to appear in episodes 1 and 4.

Alison Mack will be directing episode 20 of season 7.

Clark MAY fly in Season Eight. Nothing is set in stone as yet.

Here (http://www.kryptonsite.com/karafirstlook.htm) is the first in-character picture of Kara. Hubba-hubba.

Kara will be more of a presence than Green Arrow, and she'll be in at least half of the episodes of the new season. If there is a Season 8, she'll still be around.

[Darth Sinister]

It makes sense that Kara will have a more profound impact in having Clark accept his Kryptoinian heritage and using his powers to their fullest. Though I also hope J'onn does his best as well. I'm betting in "Kara", after getting his first good look at Kara and talking to her, he'll take her to the Fortess to see if Jor-El can confirm her identity. Kinda like he did with Chris Kent in "Last Son" part two.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g92/darth-sinister/Avatars/Avatars-2/Avatars-3/Avatars-4/action-comics-20061114014952691.jpg

[DoomDS]

Smallville at Comic-Con: Special Report

SPOILERS


Smallville returned to the Comic-Con International in San Diego today (July 28), and if the enthusiasm and excitement in the room was any sign, this is going to be a fantastic season.

[Be warned, spoilers may be below.]


The panel started with a screening of clips from the show's first six seasons. Reminiscent of the excellently-edited "Previously On..."s that we see before season finales, this selection of clips was amazing.

The biggest highlight of the clipfest was seeing Clark flying (from "Crusade") with the words of Christopher Reeve's Dr. Swann in voiceover. It gave chills in the same way "Marlon Brando as Jor-El in the Superman Returns trailer" did.

Then, the clipfest went into some clips from the Season 7 premiere and possibly beyond. We see Lionel washed ashore in some way. An angelic-looking, flying Kara surrounded by white light. Chloe being zipped up but then waking up from the gurney in the morgue. More Clark vs. Bizarro. Kara in the Daily Planet (or was it the Talon? I can't remember..) This was the first view of Season 7 for fans and it was great.

It seemed that when the clips were shown, the characters of Lois and Oliver got huge responses (maybe from being popular, or maybe because the actors were present). There was a scream of "oh no!" when Chloe was seen dead on the table, but again, that won't stick. (Read some season 7 spoilers)

The guests of the panel included series creators Alfred Gough and Miles Millar, plus actors Erica Durance (Lois), Phil Morris (John Jones), and Justin Hartley (Oliver Queen/The Green Arrow). Also joining them was Laura Vandervoort, who will be playing Clark's Kryptonian cousin, Kara Zor-El, in Season 7.

From the brief clips shown, and Vandervoort's general enthusiasm, look, and demeanor, she is going to be PERFECT for the role of Kara. I think... or hope... that her addition will revitalize the show in a similar way to how James Marsters changed things up in Season 5.

Al Gough revealed that Dean Cain will be appearing in the season's fourth episode, as a villain (Read more on that). Also, Justin Hartley will be returning as Green Arrow in the middle of the season.

Phil Morris shared his own enthusiasm and fandom, revealing that he had spent several hours on the convention floor himself earlier in the day. Morris, by the way, will be returning for several episodes this Fall.

The fate of Lana is still unsaid, although Laura Vandervoort she hadn't gotten to work with Kristin... "yet." Why would she say "yet" if Lana is dead, hmm?

Saddening some fans who wanted to ask about it, Al and Miles reiterated that they still can't use Batman, though they ask if they can use Wonder Woman every year. One of the times that it was said that they could not get Bruce Wayne, there was booing from the audience.

The first 15 fans asking questions got free t-shirts. (Can I have one?)

Someone commented on the chemistry between Lois and Ollie, and they asked Erica and Justin how they prepare for a romantic scene. They both made mention of their respective spouses. (David Palffy and Lindsay Hartley were both in the audience).

Justin Hartley proved himself to be a huge geek, revealing his two favorite Smallville moments. One, was having Green Arrow shooting at the, what Justin called a "soda pop can" (how Midwest!)... and the other, just the general meteor-flying-before-the-logo "Somebody Saaaaaaaaaaaaave Me!" Seriously, why doesn't this guy have his own show?

Phil Morris said his favorite Smallville moment came at the end of "Labyrinth."

Al told the audience that Michael Rosenbaum wanted to be at the Con but he recently had a back surgery and was unable to make it. Get well soon, Michael!

Another revelation at the Con was that new Smallville action figures are coming next year, and singular-colored prototypes were seen. Scheduled for release are Clark, Oliver Queen, Aquaman, Bart Allen, Cyborg, and Bizarro.

All in all, it was a very successful panel. I know this sounds like a lot of gushing and kissing it up but this level of excitement for something Smallville has not been in a gathered place like that for a few years

[Darth Sinister]

Sweet stuff there.

[TheShowstoppa]

I cannot believe no one else is hyping this up like it should be! DEAN MOTHER FUCKING CAIN is FINALLY going to be on this show!!! That damn near makes the round complete. They're in talks right now with the woman who played Supergirl in the movie, she reports, anyway. I'm wondering why NO ONE else is as stoked as I am! This is good news!

[Just Jeans]

I'm wondering why NO ONE else is as stoked as I am! This is good news!

Possibly because, for me, Dean = Yawn. He's my least favorite actor to play Superman, and he was an awful Clark Kent. I'd have probably been more giddy about Brandon Routh appearing, which is sad.

[Darth Sinister]

I'm looking forward to Cain and Slater.

[Just Jeans]

Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike Cain. I don't mind him doing Smallville. But I do think he's the worst Superman/Clark Kent that we've seen thus far.

I'd rather see Teri Hatcher, but that's not bound to happen.

[Darth Sinister]

I don't blame Cain as much as the writers and producers of "Lois & Clark" for going with a different interpetation of the lore.

[Just Jeans]

It's not so much their interpretation as Cain's performance that I didn't like. The show did get a bit silly starting with it's third season, and I think the fourth season is practically unwatchable, but Cain's performance really never clicked for me. He played Superman and Clark Kent practically identical. It made Teri Hatcher's Lois Lane look like a complete ignoramus.

I could believe that Lois never pegged Clark for Superman when it was Reeve and Kidder, but the dynamic was absurd in Lois and Clark.

[Darth Sinister]

A new teaser poster (http://www.supermanhomepage.com/images/smallville7/season7poster.jpg).

[CosmoBubba]

You know, with all the talk of Supergirl arriving, it makes me wonder if anybody will mention the pseudo-Supergirl that Adrienne Palecki played in (I think) the third season. Just one line of dialogue - "Hey, wasn't there a fake Kara that Jor-El somehow poofed out of existence?" - would suit me just fine.

[Just Jeans]

They will be mentioning season 3 Kara, yes. The KryptonSite spoiler section had a blurb about that a couple of weeks back.

[CosmoBubba]

I must have missed that blurb. Good news, though.

[Just Jeans]

I believe she's supposed to get a mention during a confrontation between Clark and Jor-El.

[girlychaos]

I can't wait to watch it!!! Is it really gonna be the last season though??

[Just Jeans]

They said they may do a season 8, but if they do, Lex Luthor will not be involved for the entire season. Michael is the only cast member who didn't sign the contract for a possible eighth season, but they hope he'll be involved in some capacity.

[DRE]

Helen Slater to Appear on Smallville
Source: Variety
August 5, 2007


Former Supergirl star Helen Slater has signed on to appear on the CW's "Smallville." Slater will play the aunt of the show's recently cast Supergirl (Laura Vandervoort).

Slater will appear in the sixth episode of the upcoming season, two weeks after ex-Superman Dean Cain ("Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman") is scheduled to appear.

I'm surprised such cool news hadn't made it here earlier.

[TheShowstoppa]

Dre, news just broke this morning. I just read at 8:30 eastern time and I'm on the internet a lot. I'm so glad we're just a little over a month away!

[Just Jeans]

I can't believe it's almost time for the new series to start. I realize it's nearly two months off, but the Fall season is sneaking up on us. I don't think temperatures have broken 100 degrees here yet. The summer is just trucking right on by.

[Darth Sinister]

The newest rumor is that Helen Slater will be playing Kara's aunt. Which unless they're creating a new character, Slater will be playing Lara.

[girlychaos]

They said they may do a season 8, but if they do, Lex Luthor will not be involved for the entire season. Michael is the only cast member who didn't sign the contract for a possible eighth season, but they hope he'll be involved in some capacity.

I really didn't know that....thanks for the info though. I surely hope there will be a season 8.

[Just Jeans]

The newest rumor is that Helen Slater will be playing Kara's aunt. Which unless they're creating a new character, Slater will be playing Lara.

I was discussing this rumor with a friend the other day, and we came to the conclusion that it must be a new character rather than Lara. It just seems odd that they would refer to Helen Slater as "Kara's Aunt" rather than "Clark's biological mother." if she's playing Lara.

[TheShowstoppa]

Kryptonsite broke the news either today or yesterday (and I've been camping all weekend and I'm the first to post this?!) that the sixth episode is titled Lara. So Jeans, your theory was correct, as was everyone else's. I seriously cannot wait for this season to begin. However, I want Terrance Stamp back as Jor-El. It was quite the perfect link.

[hack slash]

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n261/robertfwb63/l_96b915c58d9d119ea4aef45215f67243.jpg

[DRE]

They look like pajamas! :D

I still say, and will forever say that Welling would make a great Superman (At least as good as Routh did), he has shown in the last season that he can step up to that level when needed.

[Jack Bauer]

He does looks very different then being dressed with the red and blue street clothing and the hair.

[Darth Sinister]

The outfit looks like something Kon-El wore once.

[Jack Bauer]

Well, officially Smallville's Superman is basically Superboy. Right?

[TheShowstoppa]

NO! Smallville's superman is Clark Kent. Superboy and any likeness to him is not in this reimagining. Clark doesn't fly - Superboy flies. Clark gained all of his powers over the course of many years (6 so far) - Superboy already had them. No where NEAR that.

Hack Slash, fix the link or I've got to delete the post.

[Just Jeans]

There are some classic Superboy elements to the show I think (like Lex knowing Clark since Clark was a teenager) but, by and large, the show is the early tales of Superman.

The modern Superboy is Conner Kent (Kon-El), and he's not been introduced at all in Smallville.

Hack Slash, fix the link or I've got to delete the post.

For what reason? There's nothing wrong with the link. :confused:

[Darth Sinister]

There are some classic Superboy elements to the show I think (like Lex knowing Clark since Clark was a teenager) but, by and large, the show is the early tales of Superman.

Those are Superboy moments, though DC has since retconned that with "Birthright" and the post "Infinite Crisis" era, where Lex knew Clark Kent but Clark was not Superboy. "Smallville" is based of the post Crisis Superman as he's been told from June of 1986 on through today. And with the Superboy lawsuit going on, it won't be changing anytime soon.

[TheShowstoppa]

For what reason? There's nothing wrong with the link. :confused:

Everytime I click the damn thing, it goes to "Page not Found" on the photobucket site.

[Just Jeans]

It was loading fine for me a couple of nights ago. :confused: Maybe he's exceeded his bandwidth?

[sickboy]

"PAGE NOT FOUND" for me too. If someone wants to email it to me I'll stick it up :)

[Just Jeans]

I would have stuck it up m'self if I had it. Unfortunately, I didn't save it.

[Darth Sinister]

Al Gough confirmed that Helen Slater is playing Lara Lor-Van and it will be as a flashback. Perhaps more than one appearence this season.

[TheShowstoppa]

I don't care who plays who as long as they finally bring Terrance Stamp back as Jor-El. That was SO fitting and totally fit when you hear his voice. It's a shame we haven't heard from him since the finale of season 5!

[Just Jeans]

Was Jor-El never heard in series 6? I seem to recall that he was, but I suppose he wasn't.

[Darth Sinister]

Stamp did the sixth season premire "Zod" which is the last time he was on the show. The Fortress wound up losing power as the opening of the Phantom Zone caused a power failure. It was restored after a few episodes, but Clark didn't go back as he wanted to concentrate on capturing the Phantoms first.

Since Kara will be on the show this year, I'm guessing that we'll hear from Jor-El.

[Just Jeans]

In the spoiler section on KryptonSite, it said we'll almost definitely see a confrontation between Clark and Jor-El this season.

[Darth Sinister]

Well, seeing as how we're close to the end now, I'm not surprised. I know for sure he'll be there when Clark brings Kara to the Fortress to find out if she is the real deal. I'm sure that with Lara appearing, we'll get at least two or three more episodes with Jor-El.

[Just Jeans]

Get ready for a shock.

Among other things, the word is that we'll be seeing Jor-El in the flesh this season, but he's not going to be played by Terrance. There's also some other spoilers going on in this article, so read at your own risk:

With just over two weeks before the seventh season premiere airs, white-hot news about "Smallville" has surfaced via Michael Ausiello of TV Guide while other details have also been leaking from other sources. Here's what we know:

The CW's official description of the first episode of the seventh season, "Bizarro," tells fans that Tom Welling's "Clark confronts Bizarro, the last wraith
from the Phantom Zone, and the ensuing fight causes the dam to break and a torrent of water rushes towards the land."

According to the report from Ausiello, fans should "expect massive effects after a dam burst brings out Clark's, um, hottest power."

Hot powers aside, fans can expect to find Lex (Michael Rosenbaum), having just been arrested for Lana's (Kristin Kreuk) murder, is "submerged under water in a patrol car, but is saved by a mysterious young woman."

Clearly this will be the introduction to Kal-el's Kryptonian cousin Kara (aka Supergirl). Could this be the source of a new super-obsession for Lex?

"By the end of the episode, the new girl in town will be ready for her close-up," reports Ausiello.

The seventh season will delve into Kara's and Kal-el's Kryptonian family history using some neat casting. It's already been reported that Helen Slater, who played Supergirl in the 1980s movie of the same name, will play Lara – Kal-el's mother. Now Kevin Sorbo ("Hercules," "Andromeda") is in talks to appear on "Smallville," according to his official site. Recent reports from Dragon*Con say that he is most likely to be up for the part of Kara's father, Zor-el.

Lois (Erica Durance) will pull Chloe (Allison Mack) to safety but her cousin is pronounced dead at the hospital. As many times as Chloe's been pronounced dead, it hasn't stuck yet!

On the other hand, Lana could also be pronounced dead and really be dead this time. Rumors and tidbits that have been floating around the net since April, have been reporting that while Lana will die, Kristen Kreuk will still be on the show – as Lana's clone. This sounds like a way to get her out of that Lex-marriage storyline from Season 6, as well as to reshape Lana's already labile personality.

"Jimmy grows a major spine and sucker-punches a certain Young Man of Steel," according to Ausiello. No clue as to what this means, other than Jimmy will probably need a cast until his broken bones heal, and Clark will have to come up with some sort of excuse for why it happened.

When the Season 6 finale ended, viewers encountered Bizarro Clark flying onto our screens for the first time. According to Ausiello, the clown clone from hell -- or the Phantom Zone -- "will get his hands on Lois... and she'll kind of like it."

"Smallville" returns to The CW with new episodes on Sept. 27 at 9 p.m. ET.

I'm not sure how I feel about a Lana clone running around in Lana's place, but I suppose it might work for reshaping her character after the marriage to Lex.

[Darth Sinister]

In episode six, Lana will somehow have Clark's Kryptonian powers. Another power transference story, only this time she will be using it in a way that will shock Clark. All according to Kryptonsite.

[Just Jeans]

I wonder if that will be Lana or Clone Lana... or if we'll even be seeing a Clone Lana.

[Toejam]

Lana is my least favorite character on the show,
now there may be multiple versions of her to annoy me?:rolleyes:

[Just Jeans]

If the spoiler is any indication, there'll only be the one version -- the real Lana died in the explosion, and we've been left with a clone to replace her.

[Toejam]

That is still one too many versions of Lana, IMO.

[Just Jeans]

It's not Lana at all, as far as I'm concerned... which seems to be the point. I think they want to keep Kristin Kruek on, but they don't know what to do with Lana, so they're reinventing her with a clone. Blech.

[Nick Michalak]

Yeah, I've found Lana to be the most tired character of the series. She always seems to be too helpless, and proves it by waking up in the hospital every other episode. Her lack of development has weighed down the development of other characters on the show. I'm sure there are people who have written Lana with more skill and value, but none of those people seem to be on the Smallville writing staff. While her exit seemed rather anti-climactic, I think the show could benefit from her absence. Though, if Chloe is a goner, we've lost a very valuable character for the show, but I can't imagine Millar & Gough taking such a risk with a fan favorite.

-NJM

[hack slash]

BRAINIAC RETURNS:D

James Marsters Returns to Smallville
Source: E! Online September 26, 2007


E! Online reports that James Marsters is returning for four episodes of "Smallville":

We last saw Marsters's character, Dr. Milton Fine (aka Brainiac), in Smallville's fifth season finale.

While it's unclear exactly how James is returning, I can tell you he's reprising the exact same character, he's returning to set very soon and his episodes begin airing in January.

"Smallville" premieres on The CW Thursday night.

[Just Jeans]

Christ, he's busy. He's supposedly going back to do another episode of Torchwood, which would require him flying back over to Cardiff.

Still, I'm glad he's back. :)

[Darth Sinister]

I'm betting that we'll see Brainiac was created in part by Zor-El. And what do you want to bet that a second CPU is in Kara's ship.

[TheShowstoppa]

While the news that Marsters is back as Braniac, I'M STILL INCREDIBLY PUMPED THAT THE SEASON PREMIERE IS TONIGHT! WOO HOO!!!!!!!!! I've patiently been waiting for this since the season ended... and now - It all finally comes to a head again. This will be only the second season that I will have watched from beginning to end. Why? Because I came into the show well into the fifth season. This and Supernatural are seriously my favorite shows on TV. Might as well get the party started, because next week, Supernatural kicks off too!!!!

[hack slash]

Season premiere was OK, not the best season opener by far, but it was better than the boring ass Heroes Premiere:side:

[Just Jeans]

I think "Four Months Later" is way stronger than "Bizarro", but they were both good season openers. I can't wait to see where things are going to go next week.

[Special Killa B]

Yes it should be interesting this season, there are so many things that they need to explain like

1. Who pulled Lionel out of the river
2. How did Supergirl arrive
3. Hopefully they'll explain more of Chloe's powers to us.
4. I could care less but how did Lana pull off her death fake

Should be a great season can't wait to find all these answers!

[hack slash]

So is Lana now a Thai Hooker?:D:duh::side:

[TheShowstoppa]

It would appear so Hack. It would appear so.

In all seriousness, this season premiere was lacking a little. Too rushed. They should seriously consider making the season premiere being a two parter. It would be more fun that way. They had a shit-ton of effects too. Too bad the season premiere and finales are the ones with the most effects. I love how Chloe told Clark he needs to work on the whole flying thing. Priceless. I can't wait for next week still.

[Toejam]

In all seriousness, this season premiere was lacking a little. Too rushed. They should seriously consider making the season premiere being a two parter. It would be more fun that way.

The premiere felt rushed to me also.
Would it have killed them to hold off on the reveal of Lana alive and well.
If I remember right, they removed Allison Mack from the opening credits of the first couple of episodes of season 4 to make you wonder if Chloe survived her house exploding.
Here Kristin Kreuk was on display in the opening credits, killing any suspense for he "Surprise" reveal at episode end.
So much happened in this episode, it should have been a two-parter.


I like the Brainiac news.

[Just Jeans]

The next episode looks like it continues on directly from this episode, thus making it a bit of as two parter.

The reason for Kristin being in the opening credits was probably contractual.

[On a Pale Horse]

Whats this, a highlander on Smallville :)

[The One and Only]

^Actually, I was thinking that the rather twisted Dr. Knox was actually an alias for longtime DC Comic villian, Vandal Savage, right after getting up from getting shot by Luthor, and his tirade about getting run through by Centurians and Crusaders. The immortal conquer can be seen in the Justice League episodes "A Savage Time"(on the Season One disc set),"Maid of Honor", and "Hereafter"(both the Season 2 DVD set). And here the wikipedia entry about Vandal Savage. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vandal_Savage)

[Nick Michalak]

I thought about Vandal Savage, but he was always a conquerer. I don't recall any point in time when he was concerned about preserving someone he loved, let alone actually loving anyone. He would use anybody he wanted to gain whatever power he could, even if it meant cold blooded murder. Plus, they didn't do up Dean Cain with the signature Vandal Savage goatee. I think I'd be honestly surprised if they ever revisited this character.

-NJM

[Darth Sinister]

Curtis Knox is a loosely based on Vandal Savage. But no, he was never concerned about one particular person other than himself.

Whats this, a highlander on Smallville

No, that was Peter Wingfield from a while back. ;)

[Nick Michalak]

This episode is really weird timing for me since I've been buying up all the Highlander TV seasons the last couple weeks, and it's about all I've been watching lately. Talk of an immortal, and I'm waiting for a swordfight to break out and a head to get chopped off with an electrical light show to ensue.

There can be only one...

-NJM

[On a Pale Horse]

Tonights episode pretty boring. Only thing that really moves the overall story a long is that that kid might tell Lex stuff about Clark. Interesting scene at the end where he gets the cape

Is anyone else wondering is this is really Lana that suddenly is romantic again with Clark, or if someone sent her clone (as previously mentioned) to watch over Clark?

[Darth Reaper]

I seem to remember reading somewhere (though I don't remember where exactly anymore) that for the last season of SMALLVILLE the main villain will be Doomsday, and that Titan (who was played by Kane in the episode COMBAT) would become him. I don't know if there's any truth to this or not. Maybe it's one of those wild rumors that pop up from time to time. But, if it is true, I think this could be a chance to do an interesting reinterpretation of the character if done right. Allow me to explain.

There are two ways that I would do it. A) Titan is revived and mutates into Doomsday. Then he goes on a rampage, perhaps looking for Clark. This leads to a major confrontation. Maybe the friends and allies that Clark has made could even come to help him deal with the crisis, but Doomsday ends up whittling away at their numbers until only Clark is left. Eventually, Clark stops Doomsday (I'm thinking by sending him to The Phantom Zone somehow) but the battle has gotten national attention. People have seen him in action now. He can't just walk away this time. So Clark is going to have to make a choice. He could disappear completely; give up the life he's always known and start over again from scratch. He could go public and tell the world who he is and what his deal is. Or, he could create an alter ego for himself, pretend to be somebody else and let that persona take credit for stopping Doomsday so that nobody will know that it was actually Clark Kent. And, thus, Superman is born

My other idea is that Clark realizes from the get go that confronting Doomsday is going to be the big one for him. Once this goes down nothing will ever be the same again. So, he decides to disguise himself ahead of time so that he can fight the monster in public without anyone knowing who he really is.

In either case instead of being the monster who killed Superman, Doomsday could become the monster who creates Superman. It would be because of him that Clark must dawn the suit, and it's he who perhaps inspires Clark to finally answer the call of duty as Superman.

This is just a little something that I thought up. What do you guys think of it. And, can anybody provide anymore information about this possible rumor, or at least let me know that I'm not the only one who's heard of it.

[Nick Michalak]

I haven't heard anything about Millar & Gough considering doing a Doomsday storyline. I'd almost suspect they'd be completely against it. Also, remember the creed - no tights, no flights. Not to mention, I don't think Clark has what it takes yet to battle someone like Doomsday or even Darkseid. He needs the training from Jor-El first, and really come into his own before he starts battling such major, powerful enemies.

-NJM

[Darth Sinister]

Yeah, that's a rumor. Facts for certain, "Persona" features the return of Brainiac and "Siren" features the return of Green Arrow and the debut of Black Canary. In "Gemini", we learn that Lex has another project going on like with "Aries".

[TheShowstoppa]

Also - With an interview from Gough - The Episode "Bizzaro" is NOT the last time we'll see Bizzaro. Plus Brainiac returns? Seriously - We know what's going to happen - BRAWL!!!!

Doomsday was never thought of, and if you ask me, unless they can find a way to sign Michael Rosenbaum, it's all leading to a point where Lex leaves Smallville. Basically - Smallville is kicking some major ASS this season with viewers, so they should be back for an 8th and final season. How it ends - NO one will know until next may.

[Just Jeans]

I just watched the previous two episodes of Smallville. So far, I'm liking this season better than last season, and Lana's arc is particularly more interesting. I'm also keen to see where this plot with Kara goes. Lionel's return was hardcore.

It's obvious that Lex will be leaving Smallville at the end of this season. Michael is the only cast member who hasn't resigned and Gough or Miller one has said in an interview that he probably won't, although they want to use him a couple of times in the season if possible. And let's face it, with Lana out of Lex's life and Clark no longer his friend, there's little reason for Lex to stay in Smallville. I reckon he'll go to Metropolis full-time and we'll be left with Lionel as a thorn in Clark's side for season 8.

Basically - Smallville is kicking some major ASS this season with viewers...

If you're talking in terms of ratings, I don't think that's exactly true. I've been keeping up with the ratings on SciFy Portal, and while they're staying steady they're not exactly blowing the bell curve. Mind you, I'm sure it'll be back for an 8th season if Gough/Miller opt to do it.

[TheShowstoppa]

Well... they're doing better than they were last season. WHICH IS AWESOME! Actually, the one stand out ep last season as far as ratings go was "Justice" and we've already had two episodes that have topped that this season.

Kryptonsite just released some interesting tidbits - A super hero that fans have been wanting for the past few season will make an appearance in January. Folks, everything is falling together and these last two seasons are going to be the best and I know as a fan boy, I'm going to wet myself when I find out who that guest star is and other things as time goes on!

[Darth Sinister]

The only one that comes to mind is Bruce Wayne. So unless WB worked out something with Millar & Gough, that's the only one we've clamored for.

[Just Jeans]

With Bruce Wayne now appearing in two feature film franchises, maybe WB finally relented to Gough/Miller's requests?

[Nick Michalak]

Don't get too worked up over this. It's Black Canary, people. Kryptonsite lists the Green Arrow / Black Canary episode as airing in January, 2008.

-NJM

[Darth Sinister]

Yeah, I know that. I was the one who posted it earlier. But we weren't exactly clamoring for Dinah. Aside from Bruce Wayne, the only other person I wanted to see has been on the show and that's J'onn.

[Just Jeans]

Don't get too worked up over this.

I don't care one way or the other if Bruce Wayne appears, and I'm pretty "bleh" about Black Canary, too.

[TheShowstoppa]

Guys... the Whole Black Canary thing is taking place BEFORE the supposed Fan wanted guest star.

This is for episode 7 - 11 Siren

UPDATED 10/25/07 (Thanks T.F.!): Smallville's version of Dinah Lance (Black Canary) is the host of a conservative talk radio show. Kind of like Ann Coulter without the Adam's apple.
- Like the comics, Dinah has dark hair, but wears a wig while in action as the Black Canary.

This COMES LATER!

Episode 7-13 Hero

- UPDATED 10/26/07: A character that fans have been wanting to see on Smallville for the past few seasons should be appearing in this one.

Once again - This is STRAIGHT from Kryptonsite which has ALWAYS been reliable. Everything people have been saying about the prior guest star is true - but the SECOND guest star will be more exciting.

Bruce crossed my mind at one point in time, but I didn't think it would happen for real. It's quite possible that this could happen. It's a shame that they can't do a spin-off of this. I would like it more than Kara of Krypton. That show just sounds STUPID!

[On a Pale Horse]

Hmm. I guess Wonder Woman is also a possibility. If its a villain, I doubt Doomsday or Darkseid. Like someone else said, Clark hasnt even fully become Superman yet- pitting him against a top tier villain wouldnt make sense.

[Darth Sinister]

The episode is called "Hero" and last I checked, neither Darkseid or Doomsday are heroes. Not many have asked for them or Diana. Many have asked for Bruce Wayne and I'm thinking that's who it is. More people have asked for him than anyone else.

[Nick Michalak]

Perhaps, we could be looking towards Hal Jordan?

-NJM

[Just Jeans]

I would like it more than Kara of Krypton. That show just sounds STUPID!

Why? Kara is a good character. If it's the title you take issue with, I don't think that's official, it's just what the article to break the news used as a headline.

To be honest, I'd rather have a show following Ollie. Justin Hartley is awesome.

[TheShowstoppa]

Jeans, there is where you and I agree. Because it would kick so much ass to have Justin and Clark going back and forth between shows. :D Not that it would be every episode, but still. While Kara is a good character - I don't think that she warrants her own show. Especially since the character isn't that evolved. Since the first half of last season was pretty much the Oliver Queen Show, we have a really good intake into what Ollie can do. If only...

[Just Jeans]

While Kara is a good character - I don't think that she warrants her own show.

More deserving than Aquaman, Hartley in the role or not.

Since the first half of last season was pretty much the Oliver Queen Show...

I admit he stole the scenes he was in, but he appeared in a total of seven episodes of a possible 22 (and they were spread out nicely, even if they did all appear toward the beginning.) I'd hardly call that The Oliver Queen Show. :)

[Darth Sinister]

Kara has only appeared in four episodes, with another about to air this week. She'll also have the rest of this season and next season to develop.

[Just Jeans]

Assuming she doesn't get a spin off next year. :X

[On a Pale Horse]

It'd be a funny twist to the rumor if the "hero" was actually Clark. If Clark takes his first stab at crime fighting - actually patrolling and going after criminals, not just stopping ones he randomly encounters.

I seriously doubt thats it, but it'd be a funny twist to the rumor. Every one has been clamoring for "Superman".

[Darth Sinister]

Uh, not to sound like a dick, but can we fix the title. It's Lara. Not Laura.

[sam hane]

I'm enjoying all the cameos this season, I mean one week we have Dean Cain the next Helen Slater. It's nice to see that the show cares about the fans enough to include those Superverse cameos still. I'm intrigued to see where this Lara's DNA in the crystal thing is going but I have a theory that Kara's father is on earth and is planning on doing something with it and that clip they showed of a twist...is that possibly the return of Brainiac?

[Just Jeans]

Has anyone heard how the writer's strike will affect Smallville this season? With shows like 'Heroes' looking at a mid-season finale, I wonder whether Smallville will make it a full season.

[Darth Sinister]

Al Gough said that if the strike is a long one, they'll have a cliffhanger moment for the shortened season. As to the Lara DNA Sunstone, we'll find out in "Blue" which is after "Wrath" what will happen. Suffice to say, Zor-El is not on Earth and you'll find out how accurate Jor-El was about his brother. "Blue" will introduce Blue Kryptonite, but be warned, it is not the same as it is in the comics.

They have episodes through February, all written and either filming now or very soon. If the show comes back for an eighth season, they could do Karsta from the current storyarc, "The Third Kryptonian". Along with Amalak, the slayer of Kryptonians.

[Just Jeans]

Smallville and Supernatural should be able to make it through at least episode 15:

According to the LA Times Supernatural and perhaps Smallville may both have enough scripts to get them to approximately episode 15 - 17.

[TheShowstoppa]

Sorry guys, comps been down a few days that's why I've been abscent.

Gough has confirmed al la the Kryptonsite that they have scripts up to episode 15.

I'm going on record by saying this whole writers strike PISSES me off because people are just being greedy (mainly the execs of TV studios and movie studios.) Fuckers.

[On a Pale Horse]

Someone needs to instruct the Smallville writers on physics :) A couple episodes ago when Kara kicked Clark through the doors at the bar, the doors bent, instead of flying off the hinges. Last season when Lex stabbed Clark with the screwdriver, the screwdriver bent instead of popping out of Lex's hand. Most recent episode- Super Lana kicked Lois in the head hard enough to send her 15 feet and through a window- but it didn't knock her head off, or even hurt her neck.

I could go on all day :)

[Just Jeans]

It's set in a comic book universe, and based on my limited experience with comic books, I'd say true to life physics are pretty much a moot point from word go.

[Darth Sinister]

Lana didn't kick Lois as hard. Clark has learned to control his blows so he doesn't stick his hand through someone's head or chest when he hits them. We've seen this a lot during the first four seasons. Lana kicked Lois, but not enough to take her head off. She's been practicing as we see how she uses her heat vision to only melt a small portion of the safe door and not the whole thing.

[Just Jeans]

Reading all this stuff about "Lana using heat vision" makes me realize I really need to watch the last two episodes. I feel I'm missing out on something important.

[On a Pale Horse]

Lana didn't kick Lois as hard. Clark has learned to control his blows so he doesn't stick his hand through someone's head or chest when he hits them. We've seen this a lot during the first four seasons. Lana kicked Lois, but not enough to take her head off. She's been practicing as we see how she uses her heat vision to only melt a small portion of the safe door and not the whole thing.

Not to be a fanboy and argue a moot point :) But if she kicked her hard enough to throw her 15 feet across the room and through a thick glass window, then she kicked her HARD. Have you ever seen a boxer, UFC fighter, or NFL player go soaring 15 feet across the air? I am sure your head would come off before dragging your body 15 feet with it.

[Nick Michalak]

It would be different it she was just thrown, but getting kicked in the face with that much force, you will sustain injuries. And I mean your face will be caved in.

-NJM

[Darth Sinister]

Not to be a fanboy and argue a moot point :) But if she kicked her hard enough to throw her 15 feet across the room and through a thick glass window, then she kicked her HARD. Have you ever seen a boxer, UFC fighter, or NFL player go soaring 15 feet across the air? I am sure your head would come off before dragging your body 15 feet with it.

The ficitional Kryptonians can punch or kick light enough that it'll send you several feet in the air. An uncontrolled punch or kick, will kill the person. For instance, Superman once flicked his finger on a female robber, during his first week as Superman. A flick from his finger to the bridge of this woman's nose, resulted in what was the equivlent of getting hit by boxer in his prime. In other words, he knocked the woman out. A light, normal punch to foes such as Neutron, will send him flying through the air, but it won't kill him. It still hurts, but it's not a fatal blow. Superboy-Prime threw a wild punch against Panthra when attacked by the Titans and knocked her head off. He wasn't holding back when he did it.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g92/darth-sinister/Avatars/Avatars-2/Avatars-3/Superman_Camelot_Falls_800x600.jpg

A Kryptonian holding back.

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g92/darth-sinister/Avatars/Avatars-2/doomsday.jpg

A Kryptonian cutting loose.

In "Smallville", the times we've seen Clark drive his open palm into the chest of a Meteor freak, did not result in their deaths. It did result in his sending them flying from a controlled blow. When we've seen Clark cut loose on Titan, he whupped his ass. You have to remember that everything for a Kryptonian is double or even triple of what the strongest human can do.

[On a Pale Horse]

Darth

I am fell familiar with their strength, not doubting that. I was just laughing at the inconsistency in physics. I'm saying that if a force hard enough to launch you 15 feet hit ABOVE your shoulders, it would knock your head off. Your neck would break before carrying the rest of your body across the air. Jason Takes Manhattan had it right :) The supervillians you mentioned are super strong too, therefore their neck muscles and spine could withstand the blast.

[Darth Sinister]

Neutron isn't super strong. He's a human bomb, for lack of a better term. Wearing armor to keep himself together. And as I mentioned, when Superman hit a mortal criminal with his finger, it wasn't enough to snap her neck. But it did send her down to the ground as if he hit her without super powers. Though the force of Lana's kick looked severe, it wasn't as she didn't hit her as hard. Hard enough to send her flying, but not enough to cave Lois's head in or snap her neck.

[On a Pale Horse]

Neutron isn't super strong. He's a human bomb, for lack of a better term. Wearing armor to keep himself together. And as I mentioned, when Superman hit a mortal criminal with his finger, it wasn't enough to snap her neck. But it did send her down to the ground as if he hit her without super powers. Though the force of Lana's kick looked severe, it wasn't as she didn't hit her as hard. Hard enough to send her flying, but not enough to cave Lois's head in or snap her neck.

That last part is where we disagree. I firmly believe the head would cave in or come off BEFORE dragging the rest of the body 15 feet through the air. If a kryptonian palmed the head, and pushed or threw the person ok- but a quick, sharp strike like that...

The finger tip is believable, thats just like getting hit by Mike Tyson.

[Alex DeLarge]

Darth

I am fell familiar with their strength, not doubting that. I was just laughing at the inconsistency in physics.

Well, getting power from the sun that allows to fly is inconsistent with physics too. Just sit back and enjoy it, broken science and all.:)

[On a Pale Horse]

Well, getting power from the sun that allows to fly is inconsistent with physics too. Just sit back and enjoy it, broken science and all.:)

I know, and I do enjoy watching it :) I can accept the super powers aspect, thats what makes it a comic book. I just cant help but laugh at the real world stuff that is inconsistent- look doors bending instead of falling over. I only brought it up because we're all a bunch of fanboys here!

[Sketch Sanchez]

Someone just told me that Clark and Lana had sex in the last episode and it was so rough the town thought it was an earthquake...is this true?

[On a Pale Horse]

Someone just told me that Clark and Lana had sex in the last episode and it was so rough the town thought it was an earthquake...is this true?

Yes. I am waiting for the unrated version on DVD :)

[Sketch Sanchez]

Jeez....theres something really ridiculous about that.

And its not somewhere I thought the show would go either.

[Darth Sinister]

In episode 14, "Traveler", everything from the past seven years will start to tie together. The next episode is "Fracture" and isn't until December 13th.

[On a Pale Horse]

How exactly do these crystals work? Do they allow Clark to communicate with Jor-El in the afterlife.... or his DNA/brain cloned inside the fortress? I originally thought it was some kind of virtual reality thing... but Jor-El sees whats going on and gives feedback.

[Darth Sinister]

The Sunstones Crystals were created a couple hundred years or so before Krypton's destruction. They store vast amounts of information, like a memory stick and interact with Kryptonian machinery. When Jor-El realized that Krypton was doomed and failed to convince the Council to create new starships to flee Krypton, but the Kryptonians were xenophobic to the nth degree. He fashioned several Sunstone Crystals with as much information he could possibly upload, as well as creating an A.I. that could interact with Kal-El. In the films, Jor-El had each crystal filled with not only vast knowledge of the 28 known galaxies, but every question that he believed that his son would ever ask about his life on Earth and life on Krypton. In "Smallville", Jor-El is an advanced A.I. that is aware of not only what Clark does in the Fortress, but what is going on with Clark, wherever he goes. In the comics, it is a bit of both. In "Last Son" parts one and two, as well as "Escape From Bizarro's World" part one, does Jor-El come across as being aware of talking to Clark. Of passage of time and of Clark's biology. In "Last Son" part three, he is not aware that Zod and his crew were in the Fortress. Only in "Smallville" can he remove Clark's powers, give someone else Kryptonian powers and has Lionel as his vessel. In the films and the comics, the Sunstones react to the thoughts of the Kryptonian who uses them. That's why in the first film, Jor-El moves the crystal in his hand and the tip glows, which summons the Phantom Zone. And in the comics, Superman can build starships or scanning equipment.

[King Dracula]

Have to say that I thought something was up from the beginning, Clark was acting to strange. Actually thought it was Braniac though and not Bizarro.

[Toejam]

I would have been pissed if Clark had made up with Lana so easily, so the Bizarro reveal was very nice.

[Darth Sinister]

Jane Seymour will return in episode 14, "Traveler" which will also explain that her character has ties to Brainiac.

[TheShowstoppa]

That last episode was freakin AMAZING! I just watched it last night and the cliffhanger ending was BRILLIANT! I'm so pissed that the best season thus far is getting cut short. However - If the writer's strike ends before then - and we get a reprieve and the season goes on for it's last 6 episodes, I hope they add a nice little special feature on the DVD set so we can see how it would have ended.

[On a Pale Horse]

I was quite busy so only half paid attention to this episode. Was that Bizarro in the ice at the end, or was it Clark, and Bizzaro is out posing as Clark?

[TheShowstoppa]

It was Clark in the ice. Bizzaro is going around parrading as Clark... and that's FUCKIN' AMAZING!!!

[Darth Sinister]

The question is this: Did Bizarro show up and freeze Clark, to take his place? Or did Jor-El do this as punishment, making Clark's life miserable and forcing him to accept responsibility for his duplicate's actions? Or was Bizarro's return just chance because of this?

[TheShowstoppa]

I think, and I may be wrong - but we probably have another month before a new episode - But I believe that Clark was frozen by Jor-El for his actions with Kara. I think that Bizzaro took advantage of this and found a way out of Martian Manhunter's prison and made his way back to Smallville. Finding out that Clark was gone he took advantage of his opertunity to wreak havoc on everything. I don't care what anyone says about this ending, but I was totally not expecting that and it threw me for a loop, but I loved it.

[Darth Sinister]

I could tell something was right, because of his monotone voice and his desire to take down Lex. The smile when Lana agreed and set out to show him footage. The big tipper was the flight. You can tell flying versus jumping.

And yes, the next episode won't be til the end of next month.

[On a Pale Horse]

Damn, I will have to download and re-watch the episode. I was quite busy and missed like 80% of it. Sounds like it was pretty good after all.

[Darth Sinister]

Good news for "Smallville" fans. Chloe Sullivan will debut in the DCU, this March.

SMALLVILLE'S CHLOE SULLIVAN JOINS THE SUPERMAN SUPPORTING CAST

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by Troy Brownfield

Longtime Smallville viewers get a treat on March 12th. That’s when Superman #674 hits the streets, and Chloe Sullivan hits Metropolis. For years, the intrepid young reporter has been a favorite of viewers, and though hints had been dropped about her arrival in the DCU, she never materialized. Now, she’s finally joining up with the Man of Steel’s supporting cast in the comics. From the outset, Superman Editor Matt Idelson points the finger at series writer Kurt Busiek for bringing Chloe on board – “This was all Kurt’s idea, and it’s something we’d first talked about a couple of years ago.”

For his part, Busiek credits that fact that other members of Superman’s supporting cast have come from other media to the comics as his inspiration (Jimmy Olsen first appeared in The Adventures of Superman radio show in 1940 before being adopted by the comics a year later). “It made me think, ‘Yeah, and the next obvious choice would be bringing in someone like Chloe, but the problem with that would be...’ and then bam, a way to do it fell into place that I thought really served the book well, and made her a strong and useful and fun addition to the cast, one that would give us several elements to the cast structure that have been missing for years, but in a new and different way,” Busiek said.

But bringing a television character to comics does come with some hurdles. Even though they are owned by the same parent company (Time-Warner), DC had to get clearances with Warner Bros. as well as actress Allison Mack, both to use the character as well as to make sure the comic book version looked like “Chole,” but not exactly like Mack (likeness rights are a whole other ballgame).

Nor will the “Chloe” of the comics be a mirror version of “Chloe” of Smallville, Idelson says. “‘Our’ Chloe is clearly inspired by the Smallville character, right down to wanting to be a journalist, and being roughly the same age as the Smallville character. And she’s still Lois’ cousin. Beyond that, though, since she’s obviously a different age than Clark and Lana, she’s got to be her own, unique character.”

As Busiek explains, the differences are needed to prevent duplication.

“The problem we'd have faced if we brought her in with the same background as the TV show is that she'd fill two basic roles -- the Girl from Back Home and the Reporter -- and those roles are both pretty solidly filled in the adult Superman cast, by Lana and Lois. So she's got to have a different spin, one that lets her occupy a different role from either of them. She's the younger sister of someone Clark went to school with, not a classmate of Clark's herself. As a result, she's the new intern at the Daily Planet, fresh out of journalism school and itching to make a name for herself. That'll make her clearly different from Lois and Lana, and at the same time more familiar to watchers of the show.”

Idelson, while still playing upcoming stories close to the vest did confirm a few more key differences between television Chloe and comic book Chloe – she won’t have superpowers, and she doesn’t know Clark’s secret (“No way. No one in Lois’ family - save Lois herself - knows the secret.”). Oh, and while Chloe’s just introduced in #674, she features very prominently in issue #675.

“Superman is visible in all forms of media, and this isn’t the first time something from another medium’s interpretation of the character makes its way back to the comics,” Idelson says. “Kryptonite was actually introduced in the Superman radio show way back when. If anything, the door has always been open, and this is just the latest example.”

[CanadianFonzie]

here is a show that I just wish I could go back and watch from the beginning, cause lately I've been watching as much of this show as possible, but it's the 7th season, I regret never getting into this show enough, I mean back in 2003, I think, Space played like a whole day of this show and I watched every episode, and I said "man, I'm gonna start watching this show"...it took about 3-4 years of me forgetting that pact, than YTV started playing the show, I watched it about 3 weeks in a row, than I started forgetting again...now about 2 years after that I'm starting to watch the show again, clueless to alot of things, but I normally pick up very quickly on shows...I just hope I don't start forgetting to watch it again!

but I think now that I know it's filmed in Vancouver, that might attract my mind more to watching it :D;)

[Darth Sinister]

Gina Holden will be guest starring on "Smallville" as the daughter of Virgil Swann. So it looks like she'll have the last bits of information that will help Clark determine if he should indeed trust Jor-El, from her father's research.

[The One and Only]

Wow. That was really fast how they wrapped up a whole lot of storylines. Julian Luthor killed. Bizarro uncovered and destroyed. Brainiac returns. Dax-Ur found and killed. Or is it just me how these little polot points were resolved. I guess with the strike the guys behind the scenes can't draw out the tories for too long. It was a good episode though, but as I said before, it just seemed everything was crammed together in the end.

[CanadianFonzie]

I didn't like the way the episode ended, it was sad on behalf of Julian "Grant"'s death and it gave me kind of a claustrophobic feeling at the very end with it raining and Clark and Lana seeming uncomfortable being with one another...what the hell was up with that anyway...I know there are alot of Lana haters out there but I'm surely not one of them

can't wait for Wednesdays episode (Canada gets the new episode a day before Americans, BITCHES!:p lol), Black Canary(crap, forogt how to spell) comes, but if she possibly stays for a few episodes, than maybe Oliver will return...cause any comic junkie knows the romance between Black Canary and Green Arrow...I've been meaning to pick up that issue where they get married

[Toejam]

Clark and Lana seeming uncomfortable being with one another...what the hell was up with that anyway...

Maybe it is because,
while Clark was imprisoned at the fortress, Lana was living with his evil clone.
and
She was happy being with him, something she just can seem to be with the real Clark.

[CanadianFonzie]

that's wht I figured...but that just sucks, I mean just watching that part, both times I watched it (I watched Wednesday on A-Channel and yesterday on cable...CW I think the station's called) and both times the way it was shot just made me feel sick...I can't really explain any better but just watching them in bed not looking at each other with the rain...ugh

[Darth Sinister]

Because Clark realizes that his relationship with Lana isn't going to work out. That is why they're uncomfortable around each other. She couldn't tell a difference between them and Clark is beginning to pull away from her, which will set up his leaving her behind to leave Smallville and go out into the world.

[CosmoBubba]

I think Lana's big problem is that unlike every other man on the show, Clark doesn't thoroughly worship the ground she walks on. Doesn't that dummy Clark realise that she's the perfect woman, and deserves to be treated like the goddess she is? :p

Okay, I kid, I kid. But seriously, though, it makes me wonder if this is really supposed to be the beginning of the end for Clark and Lana's relationship. I keep hearing that the show more than likely won't go past eight seasons, so it makes me wonder if they're starting to build towards Clark and Lana's break-up so they can start building towards the Clark/Lois relationship.

[CanadianFonzie]

I actually never thought of that...I too think that it won't go past season 8, though I really want it to, I always kinda hoped this show would spin-off into a newer Superman show, but I know that's not gonna happen...but man it would be awsome for a live action Justice League show

As I read on Wikipedia for the next episode,Oliver's coming back that comes to no surprise is you read one of my above postsBlack Canary(crap, forogt how to spell) comes, but if she possibly stays for a few episodes, than maybe Oliver will return...cause any comic junkie knows the romance between Black Canary and Green Arrow...makes me so anxious to watch the next episode, wonder what Lois will have to say;)

[CosmoBubba]

As I read on Wikipedia for the next episode,Oliver's coming back that comes to no surprise is you read one of my above posts...makes me so anxious to watch the next episode, wonder what Lois will have to say;)

Considering her last boyfriend was just killed by a hitman hired by his brother, maybe the grief-stricken Lois could seek consolation from another ex-boyfriend... only to find out that Oliver has hooked up with Black Canary. The plot thickens.

[CanadianFonzie]

but that wouold just suck, I already feel sorry for her, I mean I haven't seen who's playing Black Canary yet...but surely she can't look any better than Lois;)

...and I don't know what it is, but I don't think we've seen the last of Grant Gabriel

[Darth Sinister]

As far as I know, Green Arrow and Black Canary only appear this one episode. And the producers won't make too much in-roads with Lois and Clark, because that's later in the story. At best, they'll still play up the friendship angle between Clark and Lois, though probably with more hints of a rivarly.

[CosmoBubba]

but that wouold just suck, I already feel sorry for her, I mean I haven't seen who's playing Black Canary yet...but surely she can't look any better than Lois;)

http://www.kryptonsite.com/sirengallery7.htm

Where they got the "raccoon eyes" facepaint, I have no idea.

[CanadianFonzie]

yup I was right, she definetally doesn't compare to Lois' standards:p

but that sucks how Oliver had to leave...I guess it's only logical I mean the show isn't called "The Superman and Green Arrow show"...hey I just thought of an awsome spin-off! lol

but seriously, I love how this show chooses the least expected guests from DC, I mean the most popular character they've had would have to be Aquaman...other than him the guests have been pretty unexpected, like Krypto (the dog) in season 4, and Impulse, Cyborg, Green Arrow, now Black Canary...I know there's more I just can't think of...but I like how they do their research on the characters before putting them on, when I renteed dic one of season 6 I watched the whole 40 minute history they had of Green Arrow and I just couldn't turn it off, it was amazing how they got all this history for a 42 minute show

[Nick Michalak]

Yeah, she isn't the bombsheel that Canary is supposed to be, and what's with the short hair? Black Canary's always had long, NATURAL blonde hair. Just not impressed with her appearance alone.

-NJM

[CosmoBubba]

For all we know, Black Canary could acquire a blonde wig sometime during the episode. But it just isn't the same, is it?

[Darth Sinister]

Black Canary only has long blond hair now in the comics. Before she used to wear a blond wig and was a brunette without it. The makeup/mask only exists probably because of All Star Batman, where Black Canary has a mask. She stopped wearing the wig in the 90's when she dyed her hair and before growing it out. The dog's name is Shelby. It was only called Krypto as a nod to continuity. The Shelby dog was in the first Superman film and in "Superman Returns".

[CanadianFonzie]

of...see I haven't seen the episode yet...I'm still new to Smallville...sorry for jumping to conclusions:)

[Toejam]

Yesterday CanadianFonzie posted
I know there are alot of Lana haters out there but I'm surely not one of them and I was thinking he was a masochist.
then today
I'm still new to Smallville
And everything became clear.

[CanadianFonzie]

there are though, anyone in person that I talk to about Smallville all say "Lana Must Go!" and I always try to defend Lana, also on her IMDb board I read a bunch of posts hoping this Lana is one of Lex's clones, me being new to Smallville has absolutely nothing to do with it, it has something to do with how Lana is this season, I think

[Toejam]

As a Lana hater I will say that this season she hasn't been as annoying as seasons past,
but its like saying my shit doesn't stink as bad today as it did last week.

Lana = a big steaming turd. imo

[Darth Sinister]

I'm not bothered by Lana at all. Save for a few minor differences, there isn't much difference between the comic and live action versions.

http://alternatereality.podomatic.com/2007-10-01T23_13_13-07_00.jpg

All Star Black Canary.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d5/Bcanaryx.png

Traditional.

[The One and Only]

For those of you who read the comic adventures of the Man of Steel, and were looking foreward to finally seeing Chloe Sullivan finally show up in the comics, it looks like you'll be waiting a little bit longer. According to now outgoing Superman writer, Kurt Busiek:cry:, in an interview at Newsarama.com (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=145878), introduction of Chloe to the comic mythos has been in his words,"spiked". Damn. Two bits of bad news in one day.

[CanadianFonzie]

damn I missed "Siren" last night and I'm gonna be missing it again tonight, but my son's gonna tape it and I'll watch it when I get the chance...so no one spoil it for me! lol

[TheShowstoppa]

I enjoyed this episode, but it wasn't my favorite. Not exactly the best way I would have introduced Black Canary, but I don't know that much about her, so my opinion matters even less now.

Next weeks is an episode I've been looking forward to. We haven't seen much interaction between Clark and Lex this season, and next week's supposed to be the icing on the cake for their relationship - Which is good if the season ends at 15 episodes. Lex won't be back for next season, and he's hardly been used this season, so things are starting to unravel as we get closer to that 15th episode.

[CanadianFonzie]

he's really not gonna be in the next season? well I don't really like his character since he went evil

I quite liked the episode, it sucks because I can pretty much guarantee that will be the last time we see Oliver:( one of my favourite characters to hit the show, but as I said earlier the show's called Smallville not the Superman/Green Arrow Adventures

[Darth Sinister]

Well, Green Arrow could appear next season, if Justin Hartley isn't doing something that conflicts with his schedule. As to Lex, if Rosenbaum doesn't return for a guest appearence, the producers have a good exit that justifies his absence.

[TheShowstoppa]

I think I read somewhere that he tentatively wanted to make an appearance or two next season, but he doesn't want to be a series regular after this year. Also - as long as Hartley's summer pilots aren't picked up, we could see him again as Ollie. I think next season the shit will officially hit the fan, the only thing is how are they going to finish up and continue on next season? The Clark/Lex thing was so huge for the first 5 years that last year seemed to be the straw that broke the camel's back.

And seriously - It's the way the story goes, or to put it as Lex said last season, "I am the villian of this story." He's always going to be evil. ALWAYS

[Just Jeans]

I'm way behind so I'm not reading the thread -- although I know Black Canary* is showing up -- but I thought you guys might want to see this (http://www.syfyportal.com/news424708.html):

Meanwhile, over on The CW, “Smallville” has prepared for the effects of the strike and the shows fifteenth episode, entitled “Veritas,” has been set-up as a season finale. The episode will leave the complex character relationships behind and will instead mostly feature the rising Superman mythology. But if the strike does end, fans could expect to see the season extended with an additional three to five episodes.

So far this season, “Smallville” has been holding its own in the ratings department and while they haven’t been stellar they have remained stable when other shows have struggled.

I'll be trying to catch up on Monday.


*I'm not terribly keen on Black Canary. I'd kill to have the Huntress turn up, though. Given her relationship with Batman, there might be some interesting sparks between her and Clark.

[Nick Michalak]

Well, if the strike ends this week, some series might go back into production for some new episodes in April / May. Doubtful we'll get full seasons, but they can finish the seasons off right. That's just wishful thinking.

-NJM

[Just Jeans]

Well as Ausiello said -- we can probably expect between 3 and 5 more episodes if the strike ends this week.

[TheShowstoppa]

Kryptonsite reports that the CW wants 5 more. No in between.

[Spade]

This is one show I really enjoy. i used to watch it religiously, but I sort of drifted away from it a while back. I find myself watching it again and wanting to see what I've missed. I think it's about time to buy the box sets and have a Smallville marathon :p.

[CanadianFonzie]

hell of an episode, damn Kara was looking hot...but I'm really starting to draw my eye to Erica Durance...I think it was since I found out her character loves Whitesnake, lol

...but yah, hell of an episode...Clark has been getting so serious lately, it's hard to watch him go through almost a whole episode without one smile or anything like that

[Just Jeans]

Pretty decent episode this week, but the music was distracting. It sounded like someone's been raiding Murray Gold's kit of musical Torchwood tricks. :shifty: It wouldn't be so bad, but every time it cut from one scene to the next, I kept expecting to see an overhead aerial shot of Cardiff.

[TheShowstoppa]

Supernatural had the trailer for the Episode Hero. Let's just say the focus of the next 3 episodes are going to be the transition from Clark Kent man with Extrodinary powers to what will eventually be Superman. I CAN'T WAIT!!!

[Just Jeans]

They said that the focus would be shifting away from the relationships and more to the mythology, which was a deliberate choice due to the writer's strike, but with them producing more episodes, I wonder how it will all be handled. I also wonder if they're still planning to do one more season after this.

[TheShowstoppa]

I do believe that Kristen Kruek, Tom Welling, and John Glover are all signed on for an 8th season. I believe Erica Durance is too, but it is possible we won't have Lois for the final season for the chance to give Clark a chance to change.

With there being 20 episodes this season, I think they need to go ahead forward with a 24 Episode Season 8. Other than reality tv, Smallville is the CW's highest rated show, so I don't know that they would let it go without a proper send off, since they were expecting it to end at 15 episodes.

[Just Jeans]

I think Allison Mack confirmed on her MySpace blog that she's signed on for a possible 8th season as well. I don't know for sure, though, as I've not read her blog in a while.

It's weird that we're basically going to have two season finales this year. Episode 15 was crafted as a finale, and now we'll also have episode 20 as a finale. I wonder if they'll alter episode 15 at all to accommodate episode 20?

[Darth Sinister]

Nah, they said that 15 was designed so that it could go either way, should the strike end before or after airing. They had 22 stories planned out with a finale that would set up for an eighth season or if the show's ratings didn't warrant, they could wrap it all up.

Also, Al Gough said that they do have a plan regarding Clark's dual identity that will work but will not please everyone. Meaning why Lex, Perry, Jimmy and Lois don't know Clark is Superman.

[Just Jeans]

Smallville has been officially renewed (http://www.southbendtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080303/BLOGS13/546272634/-1/ENT) for an eighth season.

The CW announced today the early pickups of six series that will return for the fall 2008 season.

The buzz-worthy (but awfully shallow) freshman hit "Gossip Girl" will be back (ugh), as will the pre-Superman fantasy "Smallville," which returns for an eighth season (hooray!).

The network’s signature reality show, "America’s Next Top Model," which recently held an open casting call in Granger, will be back for cycles 11 and 12.

The comedy "Everybody Hates Chris" and drama "Supernatural" will both be back for a fourth season, and "One Tree Hill" returns for a sixth.

There were no real surprises in this batch, but there has been Internet speculation that this could be the last season of "Smallville."

While Tom Welling (Clark Kent) and John Glover (Lionel Luther) are already contracted for Season 8, Michael Rosenbaum (Lex Luther), Kristin Kreuk (Lana), and Allison Mack (Chloe) are only signed through Season 7.

Who stays and who goes may determine "Smallville’s" Season 9 fate even before Season 8 gets up, up and away.

[CanadianFonzie]

but not Kristin Kreuk, Allison Mack and Erica Durance would just suck

I already figured there would be a season 8, but I doubt for a season 9...though I would definitelly want one

[TheShowstoppa]

I see no reason for there to be a season 9, even as much as I want one. They've said they're turning more towards Clark becoming Supes, so I'm thinking that next season is all about that struggle. They said the series isn't going to end happily, so I wonder how it will end....

[Just Jeans]

With Clark swanning off to the Fortress and everyone he's ever met -- Lana, Chloe, Lois, Lex, Lionel, et al -- having their memories of him heavily adjusted so that they only vaguely recall who he is (that is to say, the impact he's had on their lives is significantly lessened in their own minds, so that when he comes back as Superman they won't just look at him and say, "Nice cape, Clark.")

I reckon it'll end something like that.

I don't think they'll get a 9th season, but I bet the CW commissions a Gough/Miller spin-off to take its place posthaste. Which character they spin off is anyone's guess, but I bet Allison Mack will probably be involved. :pray:

[CanadianFonzie]

I wish they went through with that Aquaman spin-off, I'm curious to see the pilot episode

though I would love a Green Arrow spinoff...doubt that would happen though, I do definetally see an Allison Mack spin-off

[CosmoBubba]

Green Arrow: The Series = epic win.

[CanadianFonzie]

just unfortunetally the Green Arrow has never been the biggest DC star, I mean if an Aquaman spin-off wouldn't work than a Green Arrow spin-off wouldn't even make it to the pilot, though I prefered Olivers character on Smallville over AC's

[Just Jeans]

Whether the Green Arrow is intensely popular in the comics or not is probably immaterial. The CW are keen to keep Justin Hartley on their payroll, and the episodes featuring the Green Arrow have been the highest rated in the last two seasons. I think he's the most likely to get a spin off, and if not him then Kara.

And if it is a Green Arrow spin off, Alison Mack could make a natural transition into that show. She could act as the Oracle figure for Oliver's plots and schemes. They could probably work in Lionel Luthor somehow, too.

[CanadianFonzie]

I'm not sure of a Kara spin-off...remember the Supergirl movie in '84? I didn't think so, lol, that's why I'm not sure of a Supergirl show

[Just Jeans]

They were discussing a Kara of Krypton spin-off prior to the first episode of Smallville airing this season, so at least Gough/Miller seem to think it's viable. I think the Green Arrow is more likely, assuming the CW don't pawn Justin off on a different show.

[CanadianFonzie]

it would suck to have Green Arrow without Lois being the love interest...unfortunetally that's not how the story goes

[Just Jeans]

Lois could be involved to a degree. We know how Gough/Miller enjoy their love triangles. I could see a Oliver/Dinah/Lois love triangle lasting for at least a season (particularly if Oliver remains in Metropolis for a while. Sure, that's not where he's based in the comics, but the Metropolis sets are already built. It'd be a shame not to utilize them further.)

[CanadianFonzie]

that would be nice:)

[Darth Sinister]

I'm not sure of a Kara spin-off...remember the Supergirl movie in '84? I didn't think so, lol, that's why I'm not sure of a Supergirl show

The movie was bad because it was made by the Salkinds. "Smallville" is not and as we've seen, they've handled Kara quite well. Far better than the 84 film.

Lois could be involved to a degree. We know how Gough/Miller enjoy their love triangles. I could see a Oliver/Dinah/Lois love triangle lasting for at least a season (particularly if Oliver remains in Metropolis for a while. Sure, that's not where he's based in the comics, but the Metropolis sets are already built. It'd be a shame not to utilize them further.)

Except that Green Arrow and Black Canary, when they're together, operate out of Star City or Seattle. So if a Green Arrow/Black Canary series were to happen, it'd be set out west.

[Spade]

I would love a Green Arrow spin-off. I'm still disappointed about Mercy Reef not happening.

[Just Jeans]

Except that Green Arrow and Black Canary, when they're together, operate out of Star City or Seattle.

Of course anything is possible, but given the nature of the Gough/Miller-created universe, I could see Oliver operating out of Metropolis for a while before shifting things over to Star City (for the first season at least -- until the show gets on its feet, it makes sense from a budgetary position to utilize the sets they've got. Given the cutbacks going on at the CW, there's no doubt budget will be a concern.)

I wouldn't even expect to see Dinah as a regular during the first season of the show. She and Ollie are likely to cross paths, but unless they follow up the Young Justice League idea and include his little gang of super heroes, I expect Ollie to be the focal hero for a while.

[Darth Sinister]

Dinah can still be there without the JLA. In fact, during the 70's and 80's, she and Ollie were living together and working together. Most notably during the latter part of the 80's following "The Longbow Hunters" story and currently as husband and wife.

[Just Jeans]

That's all fine and well. It's just I just don't expect them to pepper the show with other super heroes until it's had a chance to establish itself (the same way Smallville focused mostly on Clark until much later in the series).

Anyhoo -- hold on to your lug nuts, it's time for an overhaul:

Cast Shake-Up Ahead For 'Smallville' (http://www.syfyportal.com/news424783.html)

If you like "Smallville" the way it is now then you’re not going to enjoy the latest buzz on the shows eighth season.

Michael Rosenbaum has flatly stated on several occasions that after the current seventh season wraps up, he will not be back on “Smallville” as Lex Luthor. The big shock however is that he isn’t the only character departing the show … and there will be deaths involved.

Of course, the word “death” isn’t something that is commonly seen on the Superman series. Partly because the show deals with the darker threads of superhero mythology without killing, but also because the series has a never-ending supply of clones hidden in someone’s closet.

Not this time around. TV Guide’s Michael Ausiello is reporting that Kristen Kreuk -- who has played the small town love interest for the corn-fed hero from Krypton since day one – has also decided to pass on a full term commitment next season. Both characters will be back though for a limited run … assuming contract negotiations pan out that is.

“Nearly everyone is expected to return for Season 8 except — wait for it, wait for it — Michael Rosenbaum and Kristen Kreuk,” wrote Ausiello. “I'll give you a second to catch your breath. Sources close to the show tell me that both actors have informed producers that they don't intend to return as series regulars next season. However, they are open to doing limited engagements, and those details are being worked out as we speak.”

So it seems pretty safe to say that both of these characters will survive the mythology-filled season ending, meaning that a third unidentified character is ready to bite the dust. According to Ausiello, the first episode completed after the writers strike will also mark “the day a long-running character — a series regular — takes his/her last breath. As in dies. For real. No cloning crap this time around.”

The episode is scheduled to air on April 17, and will take off where the makeshift finale, “Veritas,” finishes so fans may have some inclination as to who will be saying goodbye. Then again, with announcements that Rosenbaum and Kreuk will be back in a limited run next year rules them out as a potential death candidate, leaving only a handful of characters to fit Ausiello’s profile.

Allison Mack’s Chloe Sullivan character is a “Smallville” exclusive and is completely alien to the larger Superman mythology. Her latest exploits as a meteor infectee could hold a larger significance for the character meaning her days could theoretically be numbered. The eldest Luthor, played by John Glover, also fits the bill and without Lex on the series his time as the vessel of Jor ‘El may be at an end.

“Smallville” returns to The CW’s schedule on March 13.

No, not Chloe or Lionel! :misery: I have a feeling it's going to be Lionel dying at Lex's hands. And the show just isn't going to feel the same with three core cast members gone.

[CanadianFonzie]

Of course, the word “death” isn’t something that is commonly seen on the Superman series. who are they kidding? have they not watched the show Smallville? lol

I have a feeling it's going to be Lionel dying at Lex's hands.but I thought he was contracted through season 8

[Just Jeans]

Just because he's contracted doesn't mean he'll appear. Actors who are contracted often play characters who are killed off in the zero hour.

God, I hope it's not Chloe. But aside from the other person mentioned, there's no one else -- I can't see them killing off Kara, Jimmy or Lois.

[CanadianFonzie]

I most likely see it being the above mentioned person as well...I mean I'm surprised he's still alive to begin with

[Toejam]

If they do kill off Chloe, I'll be pissed!! I don't want Lionel to die either.

[Darth Sinister]

Most likely it'll be Chloe who dies. Which may explain why DC was told at the 11th hour not to use her in the comics. Lionel will probably go through next season, allowing for Lex to kill him off before the series ends. Since Michael Rosenbaum will do a couple of guest spots, one of the last will probably be the end of Lionel and thus cementing that the son becomes the father. They're not going to kill Lois, Jimmy and Kara. They're pretty much a lock. My guess is that with Lana out and possibly Chloe dead, season eight will make more definiative steps towards Clark becoming Superman.

[CanadianFonzie]

but I can't think of anything sucking more than her dying

[Just Jeans]

By all means write Chloe out if they feel that's the right thing to do, but don't kill her off.

[Darth Sinister]

Given that Clark told Chloe that when she used her powers, it took longer for her to recover from it and the implication therein, I'm guessing her days are numbered.

[TheShowstoppa]

So Kryptonsite just broke the news of the CW's description of "Veritas" and it's been 7 years in the making...

Kara will try and teach her younger cousin how to fly... FINALLY!!!!

This might be the last superpower Clark has yet to master. We just need to see the others more often!

[skuppy]

I was at Walmart just a few minutes ago and seen that season 6 dvd set is now only $20!!!

[TheShowstoppa]

Okay - so the return of a certain Pete Ross was good in this ep... but the episode itself wasn't all that great.

I'm pumped for next week. Definitely pumped. Is it Thursday yet?!

[CanadianFonzie]

when is Kara gonna remember, it's starting to get scary

[Just Jeans]

Ausiello says Mack has re-upped for season 8:

Question: In last week's Ask Ausiello, you mentioned that "nearly everyone" was onboard for next season except Kristin Kreuk and Michael Rosenbaum. Is Allison Mack included in that "nearly everyone"? — Donny

Ausiello: Yes, the A Mackster has already re-upped for next season. I hear that keeping Chloe around was a top priority for producers given the uncertainty surrounding Kreuk and Rosenbaum's future involvement. [UPDATE: KryptonSite is reporting that Mack has not, in fact, signed on for next season. While it's possible that she hasn't officially signed on the dotted line, my rock-solid source insists she will be back for "a minimum of 18 episodes." I'll continue snooping around and see what I can find out.]

Speaking of Kreuk and Rosenbaum, exec producer Al Gough gave TV Guide's Rich Sands an update on the duo's contract talks. "Kristin will be back for a portion of the season — likely the first third," he said, "and Michael… quite frankly, those negotiations are just getting started. So there's no word one way or the other whether he'll be back next year or not." According to my moles (but unconfirmed by Gough), best-case scenario, Rosenbaum will be in 18 episodes. Second-best-case scenario, he'll do 11. Worst-case scenario, he'll no longer have any use for this.

If Mack is sining up for a minimum of 18 episodes, then the only other character who could be dying full time is Lionel.

Also, I can't tell if this is a piss-take or not:

Question: Got any Smallville scoop? — Miranda

Ausiello: In light of news that Lana will be MIA for most of next season, click on this link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lori_Lemaris) and ask yourselves, "Is this Clark's next major love interest?"

[CanadianFonzie]

wow I've never even heard of Lori Lemaris, that would be interesting, though I would still like to see Clark develop and interest for Lois

[Just Jeans]

Kreuk talks Smallville
(http://www.kryptonsite.com/)

Hey Team...

So, I thought I would give those of you curious about Smallville a brief debrief. I am in Bangkok for a few more months. So, no shooting of the Ville for me. I will return for a undetermined, although small, number of episodes in season 8.

I am not really opening up the floor for lots of discussion, because it is not really the place for it. Obviously I have loved my time on the show, but I am equally as thrilled to move on to new endeavors. One of which is very dear to me, and that is GBD [Girls By Design]. So thank you all for your really fabulous support and passion!!! I hope this clears up most of the questions...

xoxo
Kristin

So I'm guessing that Kristin won't be involved in filming for the reason of this season?

[Darth Sinister]

Lori Lemaris makes sense and is a good out for Lana not being in the final season or at least, in a coule of episodes. I don't know if they'll go the route of Clark proposing to Lori, but she'd be a good foil for a while.

[TheShowstoppa]

So it would be interesting to note that no news has come across stating any reshoots for episode 15 - "Veritas." This means that they're sticking with the current guns and going balls to the wall for this episode. It'll be nice because they're going to leave it on a tiny cliffhanger and then come back 3 weeks later to start tying up the loose ends for the Season.

Given the sypnosis of the next episode released by the CW, I do indeed look for Lionel to meet his end rather than Chloe. However, if Allison hasn't been opted for season 8 yet, it's still likely she could be the one to bite the dust because of her Meteor power. It does say however that Lionel has Clark Kidnapped next episode and held in a Kryptonite cage. God I can't wait for tomorrow!

[Just Jeans]

According to (I think) Ausiello, the production team plan to re-introduce the Magnificent Bastard version of Lionel.

[Darth Sinister]

Well, they'll have to if we don't see much of Lex next season.

[Just Jeans]

It's not going to matter much if he dies.

This whole thing is just so weird, though -- they've said that Glover is signed on for next season, and Ausiello has heard from reliable sources that Mack will be in at least 18 episodes next year... they can't both be staying if one of the regulars are dying.

[Toejam]

also Ausiello says
"The victim is someone who has been on the show since the first season and who hasn't been presumed dead before. The identity of the killer may be more surprising than the identity of the victim."
So Chloe should be safe, She was supposedly blown up at the end of season three and she was pronounced dead after healing Lois.
Even though Glover is signed for next season it seems like Lionel is going to be the one to go.

[TheShowstoppa]

also Ausiello says
"The victim is someone who has been on the show since the first season and who hasn't been presumed dead before. The identity of the killer may be more surprising than the identity of the victim."
So Chloe should be safe, She was supposedly blown up at the end of season three and she was pronounced dead after healing Lois.
Even though Glover is signed for next season it seems like Lionel is going to be the one to go.



Well this is interesting news indeed. I haven't heard that yet. Welp - There's still tomorrow to go before we do hit the stride that is Veritas.

[CanadianFonzie]

God I can't wait for tomorrow!

hah I don't have to wait for tomorrow cause since I'm Canadian I get to watch it one day early on A-Channel:p

...I'm such a jerk :lmao:

[TheShowstoppa]

hah I don't have to wait for tomorrow cause since I'm Canadian I get to watch it one day early on A-Channel:p

...I'm such a jerk :lmao:

So, on a scale from 1 - I hate you....

Go to hell! ;)

[CanadianFonzie]

well it was a hell of an episode...Lionel definitelly goes back to his evil ways...that's all I'm saying because that much has already been broken...for a while I was starting to like his character but now this episode happened and after a small incident at the end I don't like him anymore

it was indeed better than last weeks episode though...though Clark could have been more involved...it actually had more to do with Kara

[TheShowstoppa]

Grrr... Just Fuckin' Grrr...

[CanadianFonzie]

so how long until Clark learns to fly?

[TheShowstoppa]

Next week. It could possibly be later next season too.

[CanadianFonzie]

I hope it is next week

[Darth Sinister]

also Ausiello says
"The victim is someone who has been on the show since the first season and who hasn't been presumed dead before. The identity of the killer may be more surprising than the identity of the victim."
So Chloe should be safe, She was supposedly blown up at the end of season three and she was pronounced dead after healing Lois.
Even though Glover is signed for next season it seems like Lionel is going to be the one to go.

Well, the reports could be to throw us off. It's not the first time such a thing happened on a production.

[TheShowstoppa]

OH MY GOD!!!! This episode was by far the best episode of Smallville revolving around Superman's origins that we've seen in months! My DVR effed up on the preview for next week, so I'm going to YouTube it later tonight.

Now for some (a lot) of spoilers!

Lionel was by far the best he's been all season. Everyone was completely tricked into thinking he was actually doing something for the greater good even if he was Jor-El's vessel. (And he still was if you remember Brainiac telling us so last season.)

It was kinda odd seeing someone else do the super butt kicking too. (Even if it did happen at the end.)

It's also of interest to note that it was LEX and NOT Lionel who had Patricia Swann shot on the bridge. Lex has officially gone to the Dark Side and I HATE the fact that he's not going to be in next season because this can be explored so much more.

Also - Remember that Lex had his brother's clone shot earlier this season too! He's heading down his own path.

However, once again, next week we learn so much more about the group the Teagues, Luthors, Swanns, and Queens made up - Veritas... Plus Clark POSSIBLY learns to fly! This is all so great in two weeks I nearly wet myself with glee!

[CanadianFonzie]

but why was it Lex and not Lionel...wasn't Lionel in more danger because of her?...I'm trying to say what I can without using spoiler tags cause I'm too lazy right now to put them, lol

[King Dracula]

It was Lex because he had her pendant at the end.

Good episode. Nice to see Kara get her powers and memory back. Really wished they would have kept Patricia around. Liked the character. Next week should be great.

[CanadianFonzie]

I just hate when a character dies right at the end of an episode cause of how dramatic they make it, like with Grant with the opera music and everything...it's so suttle and it just gives me chills...like a bad attempt at immitating the Godfather

[TheShowstoppa]

I'm going go kinda agree with that. However, tonight's little execution was done rather well.

[CanadianFonzie]

it was...just man was I ever shocked

[TheShowstoppa]

I was actually kinda expecting her to be in on the next few episodes. However, seeing as the arc they are going for could be tragic, I see our favorite sidekick taking an unexpected nap... or maybe an expected one?

[CanadianFonzie]

pretty awesome episode this week, Lois finally appears again...I really missed her, lol...and I never noticed that they actually refer to Brainiac as Brainiac now

I'm not gonna spoil anything for you non-Canadians who don't get a day in advance to watch the episode, but I wonder if it is an early sign of why Lana is not in the next season...that's all I'm gonna say

[TheShowstoppa]

I keep forgetting it's Wednesday, and yet as I did last week, I say again - I hate you! ;)

I can't wait to see this ep.

[CanadianFonzie]

it had it's boring moments...specifically parts with Lex...I'm actually glad he's not gonna be in next season

[TheShowstoppa]

Right now he's in negotiations, so don't count him out yet. There aren't very many places to take his character anymore other than as a complete rival that will continue to hunt down Clark.

[Just Jeans]

The impression I'm getting is that Michael won't be appearing as a regular in season 8 no matter what. He might get billed as a regular in the credits, but he could be in as few as 8 episodes, maybe less.

[TheShowstoppa]

Someone said that they believed that he was going to go ahead with negotiations, but I doubt they get very far, just like with Kruek. They're both going to be in a limited no. of episodes and I'm seemingly okay with that - however I would be totally upset if the series finale doesn't involve Lex in some way because he's been a big part of this whole mythology and he needs to be in there to close the book on this chapter.

Just for the record - VERITAS IS TONIGHT!!!! I've been looking forward to this ep ever since they first reported it could be the season finale. Like I asked before - Did they keep the cliffhanger ending or shoot a different one since this isn't exactly the season finale anymore?

[CanadianFonzie]

um...the ending wasn't very cliffhanger-ish, though it makes you wanna tune in for the next episode for sure

[Darth Sinister]

From the Superman Homepage and Sci Fi Wire.

Sci Fi Wire spoke with "Smallville" executive producer Brian Peterson and co-executive producer Kelly Souders about the up-coming April 17th episode of the show titled "Descent", in which Lex Luthor takes the final plunge in to all-out villainy.

"I would say if you are going to watch one episode of Smallville, you need to watch 'Descent,'" the April 17 episode, Peterson said in an interview. "It is pivotal. It is up there with Clark [Tom Welling] opening the Fortress of Solitude. It's right up there." Souders added: "Lex has had a lot of challenges in his life, and he's sort of gone and sat on that fence all these years. This is the episode he leaps off of it."

"Descent" deals with Luthor's decline into "his own personal hell," Peterson said. "There is a major turn that happens in his life that drives him into pure darkness. ... It's Lex's real descent into the villain he becomes. I think that is what fans have been waiting for. It's what I've been waiting for," Peterson added with a laugh.

[Just Jeans]

I reckon Lex kills Lionel, and that's his final step into hell. The son becomes the father, so to speak.

[CanadianFonzie]

didn't you already say that Jeans? lol

[Just Jeans]

I've had a feeling that's what's going to happen for well over three years now. But the bit Sinister just posted makes me feel even more confident about it.

[TheShowstoppa]

That would make a lot of sense. Especially because they're running Lionel thin as far as story-lines go. It's kinda like writing off Clark's mom - There wasn't really a need for her anymore so they needed the story to move on. I'm kinda going to be waiting like crazy for that episode now too... and I am just about to go start this episode.

ADDED: I'm going to say that I would have been pissed if this episode would have been the season finale. There are general cliffhangers and such, but this ending would have just plain pissed me off.

All around good development - Character wise. And Jeans - After tonight's preview - You're probably right.

[Just Jeans]

Looking at promotional photos for Descent, I'm almost 100% positive Lionel is the one who gets killed. I'm putting the pieces together based on this photo (http://www.kryptonsite.com/descaps15.jpg) and this photo (http://www.kryptonsite.com/descent5.jpg).

Read on if you dare: it looks to me like Lex is getting rather violent with Lionel in the first image. The second image appears to be on the steps outside Luthor Corp. Conclusion? I think Lex pushes Lionel out his office window.

Splat.

I really need to catch up. I haven't watched the show in a couple of weeks, I've been hanging back. I'll rectify that on Monday night.

[TheShowstoppa]

Jeans - The trailer for April 17th's show proved your theory. They pretty much gave everything away in that 15 second bit. I have almost no need to watch that episode anymore. Kinda sad really...

[Just Jeans]

I've been of the opinion that Lex would kill Lionel, and that it would be the moment he crosses the line forever since I watched the first season of Smallville on DVD (just prior to season 4 premiering on the WB). I've more or less seen it coming for just over three years, so to know I'm very likely right doesn't put me off because, as I say, this has been one of my long standing theories, right down to the cause of death. I always thought it would either involve Lex shooting Lionel with the gun Lionel gave him, or Lex pushing Lionel out the window of his own office.

The only way in which it doesn't mesh with my theory is that I didn't think it would happen until the Smallville series finale.