The Offical Metal Thread

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Here it is, the place to discuss anything and all things Metal! :D

I bought Nile's new album today. I haven't listened to it yet, but I will pretty soon.

What has everyone been listening to lately?

[Shoesalesman]

I got Grave Digger and Venom going today.

[CanadianFonzie]

I was waiting for this thread:D

I can't get enough of Dio's Magica album today, don't know why

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Shoey - I like Grave Digger. I'm not THAT into power metal, but I think they're pretty good.

I've actually been throwing in Dio quite a bit too, Fonz. I was listening to Sacred Heart earlier. What's your favorite Dio album, Fonz?

[CanadianFonzie]

right now I'd have to say Magica, though other than that I'd have to say Dream Evil, though I know both albums feature Craig Goldy on guitar, I find Vivian to be Dio's best guitarist, he doesn't think he was some guitar hero, but I sure do, just listen to the solo's on Don't Talk to Strangers, Stand Up and Shout and King of Rock and Roll...just to name a few

[MaDMaNMaRz]

It's actually kind of hard for me to only pick one.

My top 3 choices would be:

The Last in Line
Dream Evil
Strange Highways

Strange Highways is a pretty heavy album. Kind of underrated, IMO.

[Rich]

I am listening to the new Nile right now. It is awesome! I can't wait to finnish it, because mine came with a dvd. I don't even know what is on the dvd, so I'll be suprised when I pop it in the old dvd player later on tonight.

[CanadianFonzie]

MMM I haven't heard the whole album of Strange Highways, but I've heard 2, maybe 3 songs from it, it's okay, I specifically know the title track, because it's on the Very Beast of cd that I have, but have you ever heard Magica? that was his return to his good sound, because he made Strange Highways and Angry Machines which were both pretty heavy...Angry Machines was too heavy for my taste, and there was Lock Up the Wolves which I bought on cassette when it came out and I found that to be quite the waste of money, but Magica returned to be a somewhat heavier Dream Evil IMO

[Special Killa B]

I'm in to some Metal my favs in no order are.

Metallica
Motorhead
Dio
Slayer
Pantera
Mushroomhead (I've got to love them because their from my hometown of Cleveland!)
MudVayne
Clutch

I'll add more that I think of later

[Lance Lives]

Ah yes, Metal Thread yet again. I've been listening to Acid Bath, Frightmare, Weedeater, and Darkness Remains lately. Pretty varied assortment there but it's what I dig.

Madman I got that Bloodfreak cd, but it hasn't arrived yet. I look forward to listening to it.
Madman, what do you know about Fondlecorpse? The little bit I've heard sounds good and they seem pretty cool.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Madman I got that Bloodfreak cd, but it hasn't arrived yet. I look forward to listening to it.
Madman, what do you know about Fondlecorpse? The little bit I've heard sounds good and they seem pretty cool.

Awesome! I know you'll love the new Blood Freak. :)

Fondlecorpse are really good. They're from the Netherlands. They've been around for a little while now. They have a couple of 7", one full length( From Beyond the Crypt) and a recently released MCD( Blood and Popcorn).

I'd definitely recommend them. They have a Myspace (http://www.myspace.com/fondlecorpse) page if you want to check them out.

[Shoesalesman]

I had Pantera's Cowboys From Hell on a few moments ago. What great guitar work!

RIP Dimebag :(

[zach82]

I've been listening to a ton of Megadeth lately, which is funny cause I really hadn't listened to them in months before about a week ago. I heard a bit of the new album and I know I'm going to pick it up now.

[CanadianFonzie]

it's been a while since I've picked up a new Megadeth cd, the last one I got was their new one the day it came out, I gotta get Rust in Peace, cause it's the next on my list to get by them, but I always come across cd's alot cheaper that I end up getting instead

[Lance Lives]

Rust in Peace is by far my favorite Megadeth. Other than that cd I don't really care for them that much. Countdown is pretty good though.

I'm on my first listen of that Blood Freak cd and I really dig it. Kinda reminds me of Frightmare but it's kinda different. I'll probably get that Fondlecorpse MCD, or do you think I should get the full length Razorback has?

I went to "Sounds of the Underground" yesterday and it was probably one of the worst shows I've been to. Went for Goatwhore and Amon Amarth and didn't see either of them. They started the show before everyone was inside and we missed Goatwhore and Amon Amarth didn't even show up. On top of everything I lost my glasses. Bad day on all accounts but oh well.

[CanadianFonzie]

my son swears that he saw Glen Drover, the guitarist for Megadeth, at the concert we went to last night, too bad I didn't see him, I would have liked to talk to him, my son was too nervous to say anything and by the time he finally stopped me and told me he had left the spot that my son saw him

[Rich]

Rust in Peace is by far my favorite Megadeth. Other than that cd I don't really care for them that much. Countdown is pretty good though

You must not have ever herd Killing is my Business...And Business is Good or Piece Sells...But Who's Buyin'. Those are two classic metal albums.

[Lance Lives]

Yeah, I have both of those albums. Some of Peace Sells is pretty good, but nothing I want to listen to very much. I remember being a fan of Wake Up Dead, that one was pretty good, but I could just never get into Dave's voice on any of the other releases. And the new version of A Tout Le Mond is cringe worthy and laughable at the same time.

[Rich]

Dave has a very unique kind of voice.

And the new version of A Tout Le Mond is cringe worthy and laughable at the same time.

I love it way better then the original version.

Dave said something interesting a few years back. He said that he and James [Hetfield] have voices that you can easily regognize anywhere whenever you hear them. Even if you don't always like them, at least you can recognize them, where most other bands just do their best Philip Ansolmo or Chris Barnes or Burton C. Bell impression. He said that in an interview on K-Rock radio, a New York radio station, when it was still a music station. I happen to agree with him there.

Dave has always had that rebellious 10 year old singing voice. Sometimes it's funny, but I like it. He sounds like a pissed teenager even while in his 40s.

[CanadianFonzie]

I think I prefer the new version of A Tout Le Monde, probably because Glen is my favourite guitarist that Megadeth has had...though the guitaring of the song wasn't changed that much

but comparing Dave's and James' voices, they are both very recognizable for such a genre, but as I've stated numerous times, and everyone finds this wierd, as do I, but I love Megadeth, but I just can't get into Metallica, no matter how hard I try, and the singing is a major part of the reason, I love Dave's voice, and James, though he has a pretty good voice, I just can't get into them

[Rich]

I love both bands. My all time top 5 metal/rock bands are:

1. Metallica
2. Pantera
3. Slayer
4. Megadeth
5. Sepultura

[CanadianFonzie]

my top 5, in reference to that type of metal are

1-Judas Priest
2-Black Sabbath
3-Accept
4-Iron Maiden
5-...I'd have to go with Krokus

[Shoesalesman]

Slayer is one of those bands that keeps putting out great songs no matter how old they get.

[CanadianFonzie]

has anyone ever heard anything from the band Cacophony? the band with Marty Friedman and Jason Becker, before such a tragedy struck Becker ofcourse, if you haven't heard anything by Cacophony, and are realy into guitar shredders and neo-classical music I recommend their music, Jason Becker is IMO the greatest neo-classical shredder ever to grace a guitar and it's a tragedy he was sticken with ALS over a decade ago, but I'm glad that he is still alive and hasn't let te desease take over his composing abilities

[Rich]

Slayer is one of those bands that keeps putting out great songs no matter how old they get.

I don't know if I totally agree with that. God Hates Us All and Christ Illusion were awesome albums. I thought everything between them and Seasons in the Abyss was horrible. They were at a point in the 1990s where they were writing boring stale stuff and just could not write a good song anymore. Then they made that punk covers album, which was the biggest pile of crap ever recorded. For Slayer, I stick with Show No Mercy - Seasons, and then I like the two newest albums.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I'm on my first listen of that Blood Freak cd and I really dig it. Kinda reminds me of Frightmare but it's kinda different. I'll probably get that Fondlecorpse MCD, or do you think I should get the full length Razorback has?

Man, I haven't been on here in almost a week! I haven't had access to a computer lately.

Glad to hear you like the new Blood Freak album. If you HAD to pick one, i'd say to get Blood and Popcorn( the MCD). I personally think that is their best material.

I picked up a CD by a band called Catasexual Urge Motivation yesterday. It's actually on Razorback Records. There a gore-grind band from Japan. Man, they are seriously the sickest band i've ever heard. They're music is just real twisted, haha.

The new Nile album, Ithyphallic, is killer!!! It's actually my new favorite album by them now. I love it.

[Killa Pimp]

Been running through a lot of
DANZIG
TESTAMENT
SUICIDAL TENDENCIES
in my IPOD lately

[CanadianFonzie]

Danzig isn't half bad as I've gotten to notice lately, I don't know many of their songs and I don't know if I'd go out and buy their stuff, but it's pretty good to listen to

and I just bought Megadeth's Cryptic Writings and am listening to it right now, I'm on the song "Sin" and I'm loving the whole album so far

[Lance Lives]

Cryptic Writings is an alright album. The songs Trust, Use the Man, and Desentigrators (sp?) are all pretty good.

I love Danzig. His first two albums are my favorite. 3 is good too. He just put out a collection of unreleased stuff from his whole career and there's some badass stuff on there too.

[CanadianFonzie]

a metal band I want to start buying some stuff from, though I should have started doing so 20 yers ago and I'm not sure why I haven't yet, is W.A.S.P., I'm interested in buying all of their stuff...except Helldorado, not really interested in that one

[Killa Pimp]

Danzig isn't half bad as I've gotten to notice lately, I don't know many of their songs and I don't know if I'd go out and buy their stuff, but it's pretty good to listen to

The first 4 are classic, I am probably partial because that is when the "alternative" metal scene hit, back when I was in college.

Cryptic Writings is an alright album. The songs Trust, Use the Man, and Desentigrators (sp?) are all pretty good.


I agree, Its Alright. Rust in Peace, Countdown to Extinction, and Youthanaisia are all classics in their own rights.

[CanadianFonzie]

wasn't Glenn Danzig the singer of The Misfits?

[Killa Pimp]

wasn't Glenn Danzig the singer of The Misfits?

Yeah,
From like 77-83 or something like that.
(Damn, I feel old answering that!!;))

[CanadianFonzie]

wow he sure changed his style after leaving The Misfits, and you shouldn't feel old, I'm the old man of the forum

[Lance Lives]

Yeah, Glenn ended the 'fits in 83 and went on to do Samhain which is the mid-ground between the too bands. It was still punkish, but it kept getting more and more blue-sy and heavy so they started up the band for American Records.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Been running through a lot of
DANZIG
TESTAMENT
SUICIDAL TENDENCIES
in my IPOD lately

I love all 3!! I was actually rocking Suicidal Tendencies's How Will I Laugh Tomorrow today.

I'm a big Danzig fan. Out of all of his projects, I like him in The Misfits the best. I'm listening to Collection 1 right now.

[Lance Lives]

Yeah, The Misfits are one of my favorite bands ever. I went ahead and bought the box set not too long ago because my Collections 1 and 2 were both completely fucked.
I'm also in the minority but I personally like Graves era more than Danzig. I just love the songs and the vibe of the whole thing. It seems that the whole of the horror rock scene today rips more off of Graves era than Danzig, but then proceed to bash it. I don't get it.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Tim, you know I love the Graves era as well. :) Famous Monsters is a great album.

Have you heard the new Nile album yet? IMO, it's their best yet. The production sounds pretty similiar to Annihilation of the Wicked, but the songs are more brutal. :D The new Behemoth albums slays too!

[Lance Lives]

Nah, haven't heard the new Nile. I'm always behind when it comes to new death. I've been listening to Arsis all day. Intense stuff. I like their old cd better than the new one though. Never heard the EP they did, I need to pick it up.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I've heard Arsis before, but I don't own any of their albums. :(

Right now i'm listening to Death( Sacred Serenity). :)

Also, I have some news on the 4th Blood Freak album. Ed Repka will be doing the cover art again. The album is going to be called "Scared Stiff". Neil reported that there are going to be slower, "doom" parts in it. It's going to be the fastest, and sleaziest album by Blood Freak. :D I guess he almost already half way done writing for it!!!! Neil means business.

How are you liking Multiplex Massacre, Tim? What are your favorite songs?

[Lance Lives]

Geez, he really doesn't fuck around dude, he must have so many riffs in his head it's ridiculous. My favorite song off of MM is Savage Streets. Good stuff. Hey, do you know what movie the first sample off that disc is from? It sounds like Robert Englund to me, but I can't place it.

You need to get some Arsis man. Their cd A Celebration of Guilt is intense. There's a song on there called Maddening Disdain that I really think is one of the most badass songs I've ever heard.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Damn......I'm pretty positive i've seen the movie. I can't think of the movie, either. It's going to kill me trying to think of the name, haha. :lol:

I'm going to be in LA in a couple of weeks. That Amoeba Records store I mentioned before has a HUGE selection of CD's. I'm sure they'd have stuff by them. I'll have to check them out. I'd actually be surprised if they didn't have anything by them.

I also discovered a Metal store in Chicago!!! It's called Metal Haven. It was pretty small, but they had some good shit there. That's where I bought the Catasexual Urge Motivation CD. They are seriously the sickest sounding band.....ever. They're a gore/grind band from Japan. I believe that album I got was on Razorback!! :)

I was listening to King Diamond today....Abigail. I still need to pick up the new one. Have any of you guys heard it yet? How is it?

[Rich]

I still have to get Abagail. That album is classic. I also need Don't Break the Oath.

I have Melissa and The Beginning and they are both great.

Right now I am listening to Sabbath, but lately I have been listening to a lot of Metallica, Megadeth, Dying Fetus, an Six Feet Under.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Lately i've been listening to Skid Row, Black Sabbath, Death, Metallica, Anthrax, and The Misfits.

I actually had the urge to listen to Skid Row again because i've been playing Guitar Hero Rocks the 80's.....they have 18 and Life on there.

[CanadianFonzie]

and what a bad job on it they did do

I find myself listening to Ozzy Osbourne lately, next time I go downtown, which should be monday, I'm lookin' to see the prices of Bark at the Moon and The Ultimate Sin, if they have them ofcourse, Jake E. Lee is a great guitarist and along with Randy was Osbournes only good guitarist IMO...ofcourse Brad Gillis played with Ozzy, but that was only for that live album Speak of the Devil, so I won't count Gillis (who I probably actually like more than Randy or Jake)

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Haha, I do agree that it wasn't that great a version( 18 and Life). It's way better than Holy Diver, though.

Speak of the Devil is one of my favorite live albums. :) That was cool that he did all Black Sabbath songs.

I've always thought Randy was his best guitar player.....and one of the all-time greatest in general.

[CanadianFonzie]

the tour for Speak of the Devil (atleast one show that i know of) he didn't play just Sabbath songs, he also played his solo stuff, just the album was Sabbath songs, the live show that I saw (I wasn't at the show mind you) was quite the amazing looking show, Gillis' guitar solo was incredible

and ofcourse I think Randy was his best guitarist, just Jake E. Lee was great in his own way, he was no Randy though

I say Randy wouldn't get so much attention if he was still alive today, I know that's bad of me to say, but it's like that with a lot of dead musicians, they're more respected dead than alive, especially, like in Randy's case, when you die so early in your popular career

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Do you like King Diamond, Fonz?

[CanadianFonzie]

you know what, I could listen to him, but I don't know if I like him though

I just bought Judas Priests Ram It Down album, I've always loved this album, but it's so corny the lyrics, they won't get off the topic of metal, it's like a Manowar album, but man what great guitaring Glenn and K.K. do on the album

[Jigsaw]

My favorite Rock/Metal bands in no order at all:


Metallica (everything except St. Anger)
Pantera
Anthrax (with John Bush)
Slayer
Godsmack
Mudvayne
Disturbed
Fear Factory
Chimaira
Rammstein
Motorhead
Armored Saint
Lamb Of God


Lots more too.

[Jack Bauer]

What's with all the hate on St. Anger? I though it was excellent.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

What's with all the hate on St. Anger? I though it was excellent.

For me, they just completely lost ALL of their energy. Some people might call me crazy, but I personally think they lost their energy with the Black album. I do think it's a decent album, but I couldn't get into it as much. As for St. Anger, I just thought the songs were terrible. They didn't solo at all, and Lars's drums sounded like shit. :X

Fonz - I like Judas Priest alot too. My favorite albums are Screaming for Vengeance and Painkiller. Painkiller was REALLY heavy....almost to the point of being thrashy! - that's why I love it so much. :)

[CanadianFonzie]

I really like that album, but I don't like the title track, my favourite Judas Priest albums range from Vengeance to Ram It Down, I really can't decide, I have the Electric Eye dvd and it has the concert they recorded on the Turbo tour, and I thought that was an excelent show, I really want to get this Live Vengeance dvd they have, because I saw them on that tour

[MaDMaNMaRz]

While I love Priest, i've always preferred Iron Maiden. :)

If I had to only pick one favorite Maiden album, i'd say Powerslave. The Number of the Beast would be 2nd, and Somewhere in Time would be 3rd.

I was flipping through the Music Choice channels yesterday, and they had a Dokken song on. Ever since, i've had the urge to listen to Dream Warriors. I kind of want to watch the movie now too, haha. :)

Out of the first 2 Skid Row albums, which one do you prefer, Fonz? It's actually a tie for me. Their self-titled debut had more "radio friendly" songs, but they were really good. Slave to the Grind is alot heavier. :D

Also, did you know that Sebastion Bach used to be on the show Gilmore Girls? Yeah, i've actually watched the show, haha. :side:

[CanadianFonzie]

I personally prefere Judas Priest faaaaaaar more than Maiden

as for Dokken, George Lynch is one of the greatest guitarists, yet one of the greatest ego-asses out there, I once read that Don said to the band before a show that he wasn't feeling his best that night and he didn't think he'd be singing too good, than George said "who cares, they're only here to see me and you guys just back me up", and he meant it

I prefer Skid Rows first album, the singer they have now sings Baz's stuff pretty damn good live, yet the original stuff he does with them isn't the best, though their latest album isn't too bad, I still don't think I'd buy it, and yes I read he was a regular on Gilmore Girls

I'm going downtown tomorrow so I hope to pick up some W.A.S.P. which I have been craving the past couple of weeks

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I've heard the new singer. I don't think he's ANYWHERE near as good as Baz. I do like the music on the new album, though. I personally don't think i'd buy it either. Skid Row isn't really Skid Row without good ol' Baz. :)

Yeah, George Lynch has the biggest ego ever.......but he is a really good player.

I haven't heard that much W.A.S.P. Who would you compare them to?

[CanadianFonzie]

well sound wise waaaaaaay back when I first heard them I thought them to sound like a heavier Motley Crue, than I got kind of more into them (not really their music, more their story) and I found that they were nothing like Motley Crue, the Crue falls under glam metal while W.A.S.P. are a shock rock act, and aot scarier to look at, but Blackie is a great musician who knows when to be serious, but other than that I don't know who to compare them to, mind you both them and Motley Crue were part of the whole L.A. Sunset Strip thing

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I don't mind SOME "hair/glam" metal. Motley Crue are decent, IMO. Maybe i'll check W.A.S.P. out.

80's thrash and 80's-early 90's death metal will always be my favorite type of metal. I grew up on it. :)

[CanadianFonzie]

knowing your interests, you'll probably prefer the early W.A.S.P., such songs as Animal (Fuck Like a Beast) or I Wanna Be Somebody or Blind in Texas...mycurrent favourite is Wild Child

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I'll have to check those out.

You should definitely check out some King Diamond.....i'd recommend songs off of "Abigail" and "Them." Andy LaRocque is a really good player. I've always liked him. The Diamond also sang in Mercyful Fate. They're really good too.

[CanadianFonzie]

I know he sang in Mercyful Fate, them I know I don't like, and I've heard things from Abigail, and it's certainly not bad

[MaDMaNMaRz]

He just released an album called Give Me Your Soul...Please. I've only heard one song off of it, but I liked it.

Is there any other thrash you like besides Megadeth? Do you like the older Metallica albums at all?

[CanadianFonzie]

I don't know why I just can't get into them, I have tried time and time again

another band I think is a thrash band that I don't mind is Eidolon, the other band that Glen and Shawn Drover are in other than Megadeth

[Rich]

I was in a local Hot Topic yesterday and met a couple friends. Being from NJ it was nice to meet someone who has just moved to Hawaii from CT a month ago. We became friends and were talking for a while. It's hard to find a cool east coaster out here, but she was talking about bands like Children of Bodom and Dimmu and stuff like that. We were listening to NIN Downward Spiral in the store and just hanging out. It was a fun time, and reminded me just how damn great that album is, because I haven't herd it in years.

[CanadianFonzie]

well I listened to you guys and bought Danzig's first album, luckily it was on special for half off, I still have yet to listen to it though

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I was in a local Hot Topic yesterday and met a couple friends. Being from NJ it was nice to meet someone who has just moved to Hawaii from CT a month ago. We became friends and were talking for a while. It's hard to find a cool east coaster out here, but she was talking about bands like Children of Bodom and Dimmu and stuff like that. We were listening to NIN Downward Spiral in the store and just hanging out. It was a fun time, and reminded me just how damn great that album is, because I haven't herd it in years.

When I was in LA the last time, I started to talking to the girl that worked at a Hot Topic. She was pretty cute too. :) She said she was actually realliy into thrash, death, and black metal. :) It's always cool to meet a girl that is familiar with bands like Emperor, Suffocation, Death, Testament, etc.

Fonz - I've never heard of that band before. Are they any similiar to Megadeth?

[CanadianFonzie]

I couldn't really determine, they are kind of different

[Lance Lives]

I've been listening to Rwake, EYEHATEGOD, Superjoint Ritual, and Neurosis lately.
I'm super pumped that the Down cd has a release date. It's September 25. I also understand that Dethklok is supposed to be putting out that cd on the same date.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Thanks for the heads up Tim! I'm really looking forward to the new Down album.

Dethklok is releasing their CD too? That's great.

I actually listened to the first Superjoint album today (Use Once And Destroy). I've been looking for the 2nd one, and I remembered.....I let someone in high school borrow it, and I never got it back. :mad: That happened with one of my Mortician CD's too! That's why I never let anyone borrow anything of mine anymore.

[Geomonic]

Greetings from a fairly new metal fan here. Been into the stuff for a couple of years. Any bands ya'll think I should check out? I mean my metal knowledge is far from great, so some songs that'll kick my ass would be appreciated :)

[Lance Lives]

Geomonic, you'd have to give us an idea of what type of stuff you like first, then we'll all give ya some suggestions.

Yeah, I don't guess I've been excited for an album ever as much as I am for this Down cd. Holy shit, there's no way it will do anything but own.
I prefer the second Superjoint cd to the first. You should buy it again, there's some killer tracks on there.

[Geomonic]

Anything really, melodic metal like Killswitch is my preference though. God I love Killswitch. I'm not too into bands that JUST scream and shout throughout the songs, or really dark death/black metal from Sweden/Iceland etc.

[Lance Lives]

Well, I personally like sludge/doom/stoner metal. It's slower stuff that's more riff oriented. Stuff you can really groove to ya know? I've never really been too into the whole scream then sing thing. I used to like Shadows Fall and some of their stuff is like that. Their cd The Art of Balance is pretty good, I can still rock it.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I like sludge/doom metal as well. Electric Wizard is pretty good.

I'd still say the ultimate doom album is Black Sabbath's Master of Reality. Great album! :)

[Lance Lives]

Gotta love Sabbath. Master of Reality does indeed crush.

I'm a big Electric Wizard fan. Dopethrone is so heavy.
Madman, have you ever heard the band Weedeater? They are really heavy. They just put out their 3rd album and seem to be getting more coverage than in the past, probably because their on Southern Lord now.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I've heard the name, but i've never heard any of their songs. Man, I need to start listening to some more sludgy/doom metal. I'm not TOO familiar with many bands like that. :(

Yeah, Dopethrone is really heavy. I'm pretty sure their guitars are tuned all the way down to Bb. :eek:

Tim - Have you ever heard the band Psycroptic? Their 3rd album(?), Symbols of Failure is really good. I don't have the album, but I have heard some of the songs off it. If you like really technical, complex shit I think you'd dig it.

[Lance Lives]

No, never heard of 'em. I've basically been sticking to sludge and stoner stuff lately. Gettin' psyched for the new DOWN! If you want to check out a band with slower riffs and sludge style but is different, I very highly recommend Rwake. If you can get their new disc on Relapse called Voices of Omens, I think you'd really like it. They are becoming one of my favorites.

[CanadianFonzie]

I realize my input is always ignored, so I'm just taking this time to state something I have realized

going back on an old topic: Danzig, I've always found Glenn to be a rather scary guy in a sense, but today I found out he's actually quite intellectual, especially dealing with religion and that stuff, and it's quite scary, I don't know if this was true, but I saw this interview (actually a couple of interviews) and one of them he read this book called "The Lost Books of the Bible" or something like that, and some of what he read was kind of scary, like Jesus as a child killing other children for running into him and for not letting him bring sculptures to life...I don't really believe that, but I now know that Glenn isn't just some dumb headed singer who is all talk and no brain

thank you for your time, lol

[Lance Lives]

Danzig is an all around badass, no doubt about it. I think that sometimes in his interviews he tries to seem really smart, and though I don't doubt his intellect at all, I don't think it's anything to be scared of. I mean, he IS the guy that wrote Wicked Pussycat.

[CanadianFonzie]

but you, know, the Satanism, he actually knows about it, he doesn't just write songs about it like other "Satanists", actually he isn't quite a satanist, but it astounds me his views on things, I mean me being a fellow opinionative person (on different topics though)

another thing is, I never actually realized that he is older than me, lol

[MaDMaNMaRz]

That's the funny thing with black metal. Surprisingly, quite a few black metal bands are what people would call "true" Satanists. I know alot of them practice Odinism, which is a little different.

There are different types of Satanists....some are more humane, and others are just complete misanthropes. Anton LaVey( the founder of the Church of Satan), came up with a more humane Satanism, and most of the black metal artists were completely against him.

[CanadianFonzie]

see satanism is something I try to stay completely away from, which is a reason I do not and will not listen to Black Metal

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Some of the black metallists were hardcore in the early 90's. I don't know if you've heard about it Fonz, but there were ALOT of church burnings, murders, and suicides. :eek: Not all of them participated in those events. I always thought that was pretty pointless.

But for me, it's ALL about the music. I don't listen to THAT much black metal, because most of it sounds the same. I mainly listen to the more well known black metal acts(because they were more diverse, and had their own sound), such as Emperor(my favorite black metal band), Darkthrone, Immortal, Dark Funeral, Satyricon, Carpathian Forest, etc.

[CanadianFonzie]

I know about the Church burning, mainly the ones in Norway

[Lance Lives]

From what I understand the church burnings are starting to come back into style and there have apparently been quite a few arrests recently concerning it.
I think that stuff is stupid and I don't see why music should have anything to do with it. Doing something because music influenced you in any way is ignorant if you ask me. Do your own thing, and if it comes down to your own thing being burning down a church, I really don't want anything to do with you.

[CanadianFonzie]

lol it's like that stupid Judas Priest thing that happened all those decades ago with those two guys that committed suicide, though one lived, and they blamed it on a song off the Stained Class album, those guys were just fucked up, plain and simple

[Lance Lives]

Yeah I agree, though it's kind of a different subject, I hate when metal gets the bad rap when somebody does something stupid. Columbine being a great example. These fellas listened to some heavy stuff apparently and that became a big thing for a while. But when the VT shooting happened they discovered that that dude listened to Collective Soul and never said another thing about it. That just rubs me the wrong way.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I hate that too. The media always blows it out of proportion. Any time there is some sort of shooting, if they find out they listened to heavy metal, they ALWAYS blame it on the music! I just don't get it. It's not the music that causes people to act out in violence......people dictate THEIR OWN behavior. It's such nonsense.

Anyways, Tim, have you heard the new Shadows Fall album? I honestly didn't care for Fallout from the War too much. I personally think Shadows Fall are starting to deteriorate, to be honest.

[Killa Pimp]

I hate that too. The media always blows it out of proportion. Any time there is some sort of shooting, if they find out they listened to heavy metal, they ALWAYS blame it on the music! I just don't get it. It's not the music that causes people to act out in violence......people dictate THEIR OWN behavior. It's such nonsense.

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well???
Unless its rap!!!! :D I remember when they had the "American Tali ban" on the news a few years back, his parents blamed it on rap music and the media just jumped on it.
I was thinking to myself, yeah - jay-Z's music is so anti - American.:lmao:

Just kidding: but oh, so true.

Its so messed up how people want to blame the easiest underlying factor they can find, but really don't have a clue. Maybe the persons' parents just sucked or they had some kind of f'd up chemical imbalance that never went treated.

Now back to the subject:

Just listened to Megadeth:
Rust in peace (AWESOME!!!)
Youthanasia
Countdown to Extinction

[CanadianFonzie]

yup Youthanasia is probably my 3rd favourite Megadeth album, Reckoning Day's one of my favourite songs by them

and by the way, Symphony X...WOW what an awsome album that Paradise Lost is, I just love it

[Shoesalesman]

lol it's like that stupid Judas Priest thing that happened all those decades ago with those two guys that committed suicide, though one lived, and they blamed it on a song off the Stained Class album, those guys were just fucked up, plain and simple

Yep they were. They had problems WAY before Judas Priest came into their lives.

Just had some Pantera on - Cowboys from Hell is a wicked album. :D

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Just had some Pantera on - Cowboys from Hell is a wicked album. :D

I LOVE Pantera.....one of my faves. :) :bang:

Cowboys From Hell is still my favorite album of theirs. Vulgar Display of Power is my 2nd favorite.

[CanadianFonzie]

I just wanna say something, I agree that Dimebag Darrel was an amazing one of a kind guitarist, but the problem was I couldn't get into him because Pantera is far beyond my type of music, so I don't miss him as much as just about everyone else does, which is unfortunate

[MaDMaNMaRz]

No problem, Fonz. Everyone has their own opinion. Like i've said before, I respect yours.

But now that you bring it up, I DEARLY miss Dime. He was one of the reasons I got interested in playing guitar. :) I've been a Pantera fan since I was a little kid. I never had the chance to see them live, though. :( I would have loved to. He was a huge inspiration to many that came after him. His legacy will live on.

Nobody else here would probably be interested.....well, possibly Tim(Lance Lives). I picked up Malignancy's new album today....Inhuman Grotesqueries. Man, it's really good. I know you said you've been on a stoner/doom metal kick, but if you do have the slightest interest in real complex, technical gore metal, you should check out their website. They have MP3's of some of their songs. :) http://www.malignancy.com

[Lance Lives]

I'll try to check them out man. I personally don't really care about Shadows Fall at all anymore. After The Art of Balance I just stopped digging them. I saw them live recently though and they played my favorite song, Stepping Outside the Circle, so I feel like my Shadows Fall fandom has come full circle.

Of course I love Pantera, as Madman already knows. My favorite album is The Great Southern Trendkill, it's so oppressive and pissed off, but with some beautiful songs in there as well, perfect album. My second favorite is Far Beyond Driven. Throes of Rejection is so good. I hate to say it, but it really does seem kind of trendy to like Pantera now and say how bad you miss Dime, even though most of these kids were listening to Limp Biskit (sp?) or whatever when they were on their last legs.

On another note, me and my best friend got tattoos of Fluer De Lis' on our legs to celebrate our fandom of Down and the New Orleans scene as well as our 21st birthdays. DOWN for life now fellas.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

That's cool, Tim. :)

I recently heard some of Dino's new band, Divine Heresy. The music is REALLY good, I think. Dino's riffs in his new band are more complex, and he even solos now! :) The drummer, Tim Yeung, is just phenomenal. I'd rank him up there with Pete Sandoval. The only problem for me is the singer. He sounds TOO much like the singer from Killswitch Engage, so that turned me off from it quickly. If they had a different singer, i'd buy the album.

I've been listening to alot of Skid Row, Black Sabbath, and the new Malignancy album lately. Did you check out the Malignancy site, Tim? What did you think?

[Shoesalesman]

I never had the chance to see them live, though. :( I would have loved to.

MMM, I had a chance to see Pantera in their glory about six or so years ago, but I chose not to get tickets (I had another commitment that night that I couldn't break). I wish I had gone. :cry:

[Lance Lives]

No, I haven't been able to check 'em out yet, haven't been on a fast enough computer yet (yeah, dail-up sure does suck).
I read a review of the Divine Heresy band that said it was like a heavier Fear Factory but with lamer vocals, kinda like what you said. I highly doubt I'll ever listen to it. I also think their ads in the recent magazines were pretty lame lookin'.

[Killa Pimp]

Anybody listen to the Smashing Pumpkins Latest: ZEITGEIST

I was wondering if its heavy or if they are still on that alternative kick??

[zombie extra 3]

I bought Venom - Possessed. My first thoughts are it's kind of mediocre as far as Venom goes but the bonus track of Nightmare is awesome.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I was never a HUGE Venom fan, but I rather enjoy them. I like their Black Metal album the best.

Tim, have you ever heard Gorguts before? Man, they were great back in the day. Their first 2 albums, Considered Dead and The Erosion of Sanity, are some of the greatest old-school death metal albums, IMO.

Fonz - I thought I remember hearing somewhere that Sebastion Bach is releasing a solo album. Have you heard anything about it? Any release date?

[CanadianFonzie]

yup and Axl Rose is making a guest appearance on it...don't know about any release date though

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I just looked it up. It's coming out November 20th. :)

[CanadianFonzie]

if I may add an opinion that's on a totally new topic

I've come to realize the past couple of weeks thatKillers is probably my favourite Iron Maiden album, and Purgatory is definetally my favourite Iron Maiden song...and at my old age it's not common that I change favourites just like that...but I've never been a religious follower of Maiden as I've been to such bands as Judas Priest and Accept

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I agree that Killers is a great album. Definitely way better than their self-titled debut, IMO. I still can't decide between The Number of the Beast and Powerslave as my all-time favorite Maiden album. So right now they are tied. :) Somewhere in Time would be my next choice.

I'm really looking forward to Sebastion Bach's new solo album. It's been quite a while since he's really released anything.

I was listening to Skid Row's Slave to the Grind album today. Man, that was a huge jump in sound. They went from being more commercial, to just straight up heavy rock/metal. I really think Subhuman Race is a very underrated album. My Enemy is a great song off that one....sounds very Pantera-esque. :D

[CanadianFonzie]

Killers was very different from the debut, the sound was better, the singing was processed better, showing Paul to have a better voice, but the main instrumental of tehe album, Gingus-Khan (sp?), it didn't do anything for me like Transylvania did on the debut...that's the one and only flaw

I've been wondering lately how such classics as Number of the Beast, Run To the Hills, The Trooper etc. would have sounded with Paul on vocals, that's something I would have liked to hear...to bad he had to start with the alcohol and drugs that got him fired

and speaking of Somewhere in Time, I recently found out 2 weekends ago that my brother saw them on that tour, all these years and I just find out now, lol, but he says that he doesn't think Iron Maiden will ever play a show again like they did that one

[Shoesalesman]

Not sure if this is where I should put this... but the new Scorpions tune 'Hour 1' kicks total fuckin' ass. I've been watching the video over and over on youtube for the last forty-five minutes.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Here's a vid with clips of NOES 3 with Dokken's Dream Warriors. :)

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[Rich]

About Danzig: I was just never a fan of him. I never liked him as a vocalist in The Misfits (I am a Michael Graves fan though) or by himself. I don't know why. Him and Dio (another one) just never did it for me.

About Venom: These guys are classic black metal before there was a such thing as black metal. Welcome to Hell is a great album! In the League with Satan is a must have as well.

I love Black Sabbath! I really do. The funny thing is though, I prefer Ozzy's Speak of the Devil to the old Sabbath recordings because the production is just so awesome, you wouldn't know it was live if he didn't talk to the people in between songs and it was just so heavy and awesome! I love it. I listen to it every day lately!

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Rich - Yeah, I would have to say that Venom were the first black metal band. I mean, they released an album called "black metal", and after that is when the genre really exploded.

Also, some of you might remember on the old forum that I started MaDMaNMaRz's Metal Militia. That is still in effect. So, anyone that posts in this thread can go ahead and add the reference in their sig. :)

[CanadianFonzie]

About Danzig: I was just never a fan of him. I never liked him as a vocalist in The Misfits (I am a Michael Graves fan though) or by himself. I don't know why. Him and Dio (another one) just never did it for me.



I agree with your opinion on Danzig, though I do like songs by him...though a reason I would never call him talentless is because as you've stated, there are people (like yourself) with similar views on Dio, while I disagree, I understand completely where you are coming from

[Lance Lives]

I've been out of this thread for a long time. Been listening to Deicide lately, mainly Serpents of the Light. Good album in my opinion, the song I Am No One jams out.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I've been out of this thread for a long time. Been listening to Deicide lately, mainly Serpents of the Light. Good album in my opinion, the song I Am No One jams out.

Yeah, Deicide slays. Their self titled debut is still my personal favorite of theirs.

Have you ever heard Necrophagist before? Man, they're really good. I dig the songs Stabwound and Seven. I like the way they fuse the neo-classical sounding sweep arpeggios with tech death. :)

[Rich]

Serpents is one of my favorite death metal albums.

[Lance Lives]

I was listening to Necrophagist this morning! Stabwound is my favorite too. I also like Stillborn One, that song slays.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I really hope Necrophagist release a new album soon. They released Epitaph in 2004, so it's already been a few years.

Are any of you guys fans of Necrophagia? I'm sure you are aware that Phil Anselmo used to play guitar for them. :) I really like them......they are truly a CULT underground band. There's the underground, and then theres the DEEP underground. That's where Necrophagia are, lol. :lol: I love them, though. The song Cannibal Holocaust is really good.

[Lance Lives]

I'm just aware of Necrophagia, never actually heard them I don't think. Another band that Phil was involved in was Christ Inversion, which I heard what I can only hope was a bootleg of because it was the worst sounding thing ever. God, it sounded so terrible.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I've heard the name, but not the music. It's that bad, huh? :lol:

Here's the song Return to Texas, which is about The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. :) Tell me what you think about it, Tim.

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Also here is the song Cannibal Holocaust. The intro is really cool. It sort of goes between mid paced and doomy, so you'd probably like this. This one is just audio, there isn't any video playing.

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[Rich]

That Return to Texas song and video was fucking awesome.

[Lance Lives]

Gee, fast internet must be nice...

[Rich]

Aw, Lance. I feel sorry for you if you can't watch those vids. I am not trying to rub it in or anything, but they are really good vids. That sucks. Maybe you can go to a friend's house or an internet cafe and view them. If you can you should. At least the Return to Texas one is really worth it.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

The Cannibal Holocaust one is JUST the song. But it's a good song. I think you'd dig it, Tim. It switches between mid paced and slow, doomy parts. :) Hopefully you can hear them soon.

I don't actually own any Necrophagia albums, but that place i've been going to in LA had some of them. The next time I go there (probably tomorrow :)) i'll probably pick one up. I'm pretty sure Phil Anselmo was playing guitar on the Cannibal Holocaust song, but don't quote me on that.

[Lance Lives]

Yeah, if I ever get around a fast computer I'll check 'em out for sure. My best friend has cable internet so I usually try to make up for my lack whenever I get a chance over there.

I've heard people trash Phil's guitar skills but I've never really heard him play except for goofing off in the Pantera home vids. I know he played some songs with EYEHATEGOD not too long ago when he was just getting back from his surgery. I wish I could've seen that.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I wouldn't say he's a GREAT player, but he is pretty decent. Do you know the date Down's new album is being released? I hear it's they're calling it Down III.

I'll post a vid later of the guitarist from Decrepit Birth. It's him playing a new song off of their new album. It sounds ALOT like the later Death albums, so I think you'd dig it. :) There first album was brutal as fuck! Once it started, they never let down. It was one long blast beat. :lol:

Deeds of Flesh is another really good band. I have their Path of the Weakening album. I like it alot. Their latest one, Crown of Souls, was pretty good too. I hear they're coming out with a new one soon.

[Rich]

I liked the Down Nola. I didn't care for Down II. I don't know anything about Down III.

[Lance Lives]

Yeah, the new Down is called Down III: Over the Under. It's gonna be out on the 25th of this month. I agree Rich, NOLA is their best cd, but I love II as well, they're my favorite band.

I have to add that I bought the new Iced Earth cd the other day and I thought it SUCKED. I might be able to listen to it again to give a better review but that's all I've got right now. Anybody else heard it?

[MaDMaNMaRz]

The Iced Earth sucked? :( I saw the one music video. I won't lie....judging from that one song, it's not as good as their previous stuff. So do you think I should avoid this one, Tim?

I prefer Nola as well. Although I do love Down II as well. I love Ghosts Along The Mississippi.

[Lance Lives]

I think Lysergic Funeral Procession is probably my favorite off of II. Jammin' ass riff.

I don't know what to tell you about the new Iced Earth. I'd like to hear some other opinions on it. I was expecting galloping riffs and balls out speed (who could blame me, it's Iced Earth!) but it's more mid-paced stuff being played to fit along to cheesy lyrics. I understand Schaffer is trying to tell his story and all, but he's done far better jobs than this.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Honestly, from the music video I saw (I can't remember the name of the song), I didn't care for that one. I'll have to sample all of the songs on iTunes or something to decide whether i'll buy it or not. It's a shame, because I LOVE Iced Earth.

Yeah, Lysergic Funeral Procession is a really good song. I also dig There's Something On My Side (track 2).

I like the artwork for Down III: Over the Under

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/51ElbK0RuKL._SS500_.jpg

[Lance Lives]

Yeah, that's been my background on my desktop for a while now, I think it's a really good cover. Different from the other two, but II was different from NOLA so I guess there's no real pattern to be following. I just hope they still use the Pepper-Christ icon on the back like they have on the previous two.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Tim, would you say there are some really good songs on the new Iced Earth album? Honestly, I really wished Matt Barlow was in it. He was always my favorite singer of theirs.

Right now i'm listening to Suffocation (Funeral Inception, from Despise the Sun EP). I love their 90's albums. Actually, if the Despise the Sun EP had more songs on it, I would actually cite that one as my favorite. I still like their 1991 debut the best, Effigy of the Forgotten. Brutal!

[Lance Lives]

Right now the only track that really stands out in my head from the new Iced Earth is that Ten Thousand Strong song, which was apparently already available on the EP they put out just before this disc so it isn't even anything new. I really need to give that disc another listen I guess, then I'll tell you what I think.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I did hear Ten Thousand Strong. I thought it was pretty decent. I actually never purchased the Overture of the Wicked EP. There were only 2 songs on it, right?
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I heard 4 tracks off of Down III now. I can't wait for this album. It already sounds better than Down II. :)

[Lance Lives]

Uh, there was that Ten Thousand Strong song on the E.P. and then they re-did the Something Wicked Trilogy from SWTWC with the new band members (I didn't like it, I was too used to hearing Matt singing it), so there were 4 songs on it really.

Yeah, I've heard all of the songs from the new Down:X. I think it's really fuckin' good (of course) but as of right now I still like the other two better. Phil is singing alot more, which is good, but I still like his screams too and they were lacking. Also, alot of the lyrics are really positive which is good but I don't know how that fits in with this band. One thing that always stuck with me from back in the day is that I read an interview with Phil and said something to the effect of: "The name of this band isn't Down because we are down with heavy music, it's because we are downtrodden".

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I can't wait for the new Down album. :)

I was listening to some Bongzilla yesterday. I don't actually own any of their albums, though. The songs from Gateway are really good. I like the band Orange Goblin, but honestly, i'm not too crazy about the singer. :(
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Tim, I think I remember you saying one time you were into Sunn O)))? I think you might dig Xasthur. The lyrics do get a bit tiring after a while, but the music is amazing. It's basically the darkest, most depressing sounding drone music ever, but with a slight black metal twist. I think even if you're not into black metal, you might like it.

Here's some Myspace links if you are interested:

http://www.myspace.com/xasthurband...check out the song Entrance into Nothingness

http://www.myspace.com/forgottenlegends...check out The Prison of Mirrors and Walker of Dissonant Worlds

This is seriously the darkest music i've ever heard. Listening to it sober is quite the experience. I couldn't even fathom listening to it while high. :p Who knows what you'd experience, lol. Let me know what you think if you check it out.

[Lance Lives]

I'll try to check it out soon!

Bongzilla rules man. Gateway is the only album by them I have, but it rules. Dixie Dave from Weedeater has been touring with them, they kinda have a similar sound, but I much prefer Weedeater.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

You're actually the one that's gotten me into stoner rock, lol. :) I do like Bongzilla alot. I like how they mix the Cathedral style riffing, with the guttural vocals of death metal. It's an interesting mix, but it works great. I did check out Weedeater, and I liked them. I've also heard Acid Bath, Eyehategod, Orange Goblin, and Grand Magus. So far, I think I like Bongzilla the most out of the ones i've heard.

As for Xasthur, he's a genius. Most black metal bands lyrics deal with Satanism, and anti-Christianity blasphemy. But Xasthur's lyrics are about hatred, death/suicide, hopelessness, despair, depression, etc. His music ACUTALLY evokes those feelings. Sure, those are bad feelings, and most people don't want to experience those. But the fact that he expresses it genuinely in his music is something else. He's been around for a quite a while now, and is already considered a cult act in the underground US black metal scene.

[Lance Lives]

What I've heard of Orange Goblin I like, but it's not much. I was thinking of picking up their new disc, it's supposed to be good. Acid Bath rules I think. I love both of their albums, especially their slow songs like Scream of the Butterfly and Bones of Baby Dolls. And of course, EYEHATEGOD is one of my favorites. Just so pissed off with ace riffs.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I think if they had a different singer, i'd like them alot more. Same thing with Grand Magus. They're from the UK.

Have you heard of the joke band Cannabis Corpse? :lol: It's these guys from Virginia that cover CC songs, but they replace the lyrics with stuff about weed. One of the songs is called Blunted at Birth. :p They have a Myspace page, I believe. So you can check that out sometime.

Yeah, EYEHATEGOD is really good. I haven't really heard either band enough. I'll have to listen to them more to make up my mind. :) Which EYEHATEGOD album is your favorite?

[Lance Lives]

Take as Needed for Pain is by far the best EYEHATEGOD album in my opinion.
Yeah, I've heard Cannabis Corpse, pretty funny stuff. I heard a song called Force Fed Shitty Grass which was funny as hell. I'd like to get their disc actually.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Thanks, Tim. :) I'll have to check out that EYEHATEGOD album.

I've been listening to alot of Blood Freak the past couple days.....mainly Multiplex Massacre. I LOVE Savage Streets. The verse riff is just awesome. And that real slow part at the end is great. The 4th BF album, Scared Stiff, is already on the Upcoming albums list on the Razorback site. Man, Maniac Neil means business. MM has only been out since......June? I'm also really looking forward to the 3rd Frightmare album. I imagine he's going to start writing for that when the 4th BF album is released.

What have you guys been playing lately? Is the new Iced Earth growing on you at all, Tim? Or is it still not that great?

[Rich]

The new Arch Enemy just kicks so much god damn ass!

[Lance Lives]

I was listening to Frightmare last night. I wish he would concentrate on that new album.
I haven't listened to that Iced Earth cd since I bought it so my opinion is still no good, but the new DOWN cd is out and that's probably all I'll listen to for a while. It's really fuckin' good, it sounds way better than those tracks that were available.

[CanadianFonzie]

you know what band's alot tougher than they look? Supertramp

:lol:

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I was listening to Frightmare last night. I wish he would concentrate on that new album.
I haven't listened to that Iced Earth cd since I bought it so my opinion is still no good, but the new DOWN cd is out and that's probably all I'll listen to for a while. It's really fuckin' good, it sounds way better than those tracks that were available.

I'm PRETTY sure Maniac Neil is going to start working on the 3rd Frightmare album after he releases the 4th Blood Freak album. He's already stated that a 3rd Frightmare album is in the works, so it shouldn't be too far off. :)

Wow, the other songs are better than the one's on Myspace? I was REALLY impressed with those songs, so now i'm looking forward to it even more. I'll definitely have to pick it up the next time i'm out.

[Rich]

I'm sorry but that new Down is absolute dog crap.

[Slice]

I picked up the new Iced Earth CD because I was feeling impulsive I guess. I didn't bother with their last album and basically gave up on them after Horror Show. As I popped in The CD I was pleasently suprised. It has some of the trade mark Iced Earth/ Shaffer riffs, but it also offers some elements new to their music. I can't really explain it but it doesn't sound like typical Iced Earth all the time which is refreshing. The one complaint I have is Tim's vocals. I won't deny the guy oozes talent and is an amzing vocalist, but I just know I'd enjoy it more had Matt Barlow been on this record. He could hit the highs, not like Owens, but his lows were awesome which Tim can not touch.

As far as the new Down album goes. Love it. I enjoy it more the II but not as much as Nola. Nothing In Return may be my favorite Down track of all time. Phil sounds better then he has in years and it's packed with groove laden riffs.

A question for those who bought it outside North America. How is the bonus track? Is it just filler or is it worthy of being on the album?

[Lance Lives]

I'm sorry but that new Down is absolute dog crap.

You're gonna say something like that and not explain yourself? Bah...

I agree, Nothing in Return is so good. My other favorites are Three Suns and One Star, The Thrall of it All, and The Path. Mourn is fuckin' good too.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Exodus have a new album coming out Oct. 23rd. :) It's going to be called The Atrocity Exhibition: Exhibition A. I wonder if it's going to be a 2 part album kind of deal. I'm really looking forward to it. Exodus still kicks so much ass!

[Rich]

You're gonna say something like that and not explain yourself? Bah...

It is generic bad rock. It is boring generic bad country themed hard rock. It is very plain and boring music with nothing to it. Phil should just face it. He is nothing without Pantera (ans vice versa).

[zombie extra 3]

I picked some really neat old school metal/hard rock.

Scorpions - Blackout
Judas Priest - Sad Wings of Destiny
Dio - Holy Diver

And I bought the Children of Bodom DVD.

[CanadianFonzie]

all three are some of my favourites, I'd say Sad Wings is the better of the 3, that's my opinion ofcourse

[Rich]

I like Screaming For Vengeance best when it comes to Priest.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I like Screaming for Vengeance as well. Painkiller is also a great album.

Did you get the new Arch Enemy, Rich? I heard a couple of songs from it on XM Radio.......XM Radio has a metal channel! It's channel 42, XMLM. They'll play stuff from Black Sabbath, Pantera, Metallica....to Deicide, Morbid Angel, Arch Enemy, Kreator, etc.

Lately i've been listening to alot of Testament(The Legacy), Suicidal Tendencies, Necrophagia, etc. I don't even have to mention Frightmare and Blood Freak anymore. You know me, so it's basically a given, haha. :p

Rich, have you ever heard Bloodbath before? I have their Resurrection Through Carnage album. It's REALLY good. They play the old school style of death metal from the early 90's. I love it!

[Rich]

I never herd Bloodbath. I'll have to look into it. The new Arch Enemy is freakin awesome! It is my favorite album of the year!

[MaDMaNMaRz]

That's good to hear. I'm short on cash at the moment, so I haven't been able to pick it up. :(

Mikael Akerfeldt(the vocalist from Opeth) is on that Bloodbath album I mentioned. Dan Swano is on drums. The sound of the guitars on it are just real raw! It seriously ALMOST sounds like a chainsaw. It's actually a great album to listen to in the Fall/Halloween season. It just has this real dark, dreary feel to it.

[Rich]

I still have to check out the new Nightwish and Iced Earth.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Here's a video for the song So You Die

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Let me know what you think

[zombie extra 3]

I like Screaming For Vengeance best when it comes to Priest. Defenders of the Faith is probably my favorite all time Priest album. But each Priest album I own I would call a favorite.

Those albums being:
Sad Wings of Destiny
Sin After Sin
Stained Class
British Steel
Screaming for Vengeance
Defenders of the Faith
Painkiller
Angel of Retribution

I want to get Unleashed in the East.

[Rich]

I liked that Bloodbath. Yeah, Painkiller is an awesome one too!

[CanadianFonzie]

man my favourite Priest albums kinda goevery which way in terms of the style, liek I'd have to say my 3 favourites are Screaming for Vengeance, Defenders of the Faith and Turbo, than there's Sad Wings, Stained Class, Ram It Down...I actually don't think I got a favourite Priest album

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Here's some unreleased demos from Black Sabbath's Dehumanizer, for anyone interested.

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It's too bad these didn't make the album. I think they're good songs.

[CanadianFonzie]

The NExt Time i kinda iffy, but Bad Blood is bad ass, I'd rather those two tracks be on the album rather than the only 2 tracks of the actual album that I don't like

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Do any of you guys listen to certain albums in the Fall/Halloween season? There are certain albums that just put me in the Halloween spirit, and they just have this great, dark feel.

Albums I usually listen to around Fall/Halloween:

Halloween Original Soundtrack (obviously, haha)
The Misfits - Collection I, Collection II, Famous Monsters
Cannibal Corpse - Eaten Back To Life
Bloodbath - Resurrection Through Carnage
Grave - You'll Never See...
Death - Scream Bloody Gore, Leprosy

Those are the albums I listen to most around this time of year. Any of you do the same?

[CanadianFonzie]

ofcourse not, I listen to the same albums I listen to all year round:p

[Lance Lives]

XMLM rules. I like when Coolguy is hosting, he doesn't always play the best tunes, but he's funny as fuck when he's just talking. The Death/Grind block they do at 6 every day is crushing. I've heard Frightmare on there before.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

XMLM rules. I like when Coolguy is hosting, he doesn't always play the best tunes, but he's funny as fuck when he's just talking. The Death/Grind block they do at 6 every day is crushing. I've heard Frightmare on there before.

Yeah, I like XMLM alot too. On Oct. 12th, they started the Ultraviolence show. Every Friday, from 7-9pm EST, they play all old school thrash and death! :)

Here was Oct. 12th's playlist to give you an idea:

1. VOIVOD- RAVENOUS MEDICINE
2. KREATOR- TERRIBLE CERTAINTY
3. SEPULTURA- BENEATH THE REMAINS
4. MORBID ANGEL- UNHOLY BLASPHEMIES
5. BOLT THROWER- CENOTAPH
6. CARCASS- EXHUME TO CONSUME
7. POSSESSED- DEATH METAL
8. NAPALM DEATH- I ABSTAIN
9. EXODUS- PARASITE
10. CANNIBAL CORPSE- GUTTED
11. DEATH- ZOMBIE RITUAL
12. DRI- SUIT AND TIE GUY
13. DARK ANGEL- DARKNESS DESCENDS
14. HOLY TERROR- CHRISTIAN RESISTANCE
15. DISMEMBER- IN DEATH'S SLEEP
16. GRAVE- YOU'LL NEVER SEE
17. KATAKLYSM- THE AWAKENER
18. SACRED REICH- SURF NICARAGUA (LIVE)
19. ANTHRAX- IMITATION OF LIFE
20. OBITUARY- CHOPPED IN HALF
21. NUCLEAR ASSAULT- HANG THE POPE

That's a damned good playlist. :D
ADDED:
You can hear the entire new Exodus album on their Myspace Page! :) I've already listened to it twice, and I can already say it's WAY better than Shovel Headed Kill Machine. So far, my favorites off it are Funeral Hymn, and the title track (The Atrocity Exhibition) http://www.myspace.com/exodus

[CanadianFonzie]

another week and a half until the new Avenged Sevenfold album comes out, that's something I'm looking quite forward to

[zombie extra 3]

I bought RATT - Out of the Cellar. I know RATT is more hard rock (even Stephen Pearcy said they are hard rock) but I think it belongs in this thread.

I also special ordered a best of for Lizzy Borden.

[CanadianFonzie]

Out of the Cellar is great, but my favourite Ratt album is Invasion of Your Privacy, and than Detonator

[Lance Lives]

Just got back from watching Down again. Another great show. Phil seemed really high but I think that's it. I hope he doesn't get back on hard stuff again 'cause he's in a good spot right now.

Also, I'm going to watch Danzig day after tommorrow. Free Backstage passes, so that's badass.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Just got back from watching Down again. Another great show. Phil seemed really high but I think that's it. I hope he doesn't get back on hard stuff again 'cause he's in a good spot right now.

Really? That's surprising. I recently read an interview where Phil said he was clean now. I agree that he seems in a good spot right now, so hopefully he doesn't start that up again.

Did you listen to the new Exodus album yet, Tim? They have their entire The Atrocity Exhibiton album up on their Myspace page. I really like it. http://www.myspace.com/exodus

[CanadianFonzie]

somebody watch this before I die of laughter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iOMZu9rb2M

[MaDMaNMaRz]

somebody watch this before I die of laughter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iOMZu9rb2M

Haha, that was pretty funny. :lol: I've never really been a huge Machine Head fan, but that album was pretty good.

Have any of you guys ever heard Susperia before? Unlimited is my favorite album by them.....alot of the songs on that one have a Testament vibe, I think. Here's the video for Devil May Care.

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[CanadianFonzie]

the new Avenged Sevenfold is just and awsome album, I'm not even half way through and I'm in love:) lol

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I could never get into them. They just aren't my thing, honestly. I'm actually quite surprised you like them, Fonz. :eek:

I bought the new Down album, and i'm loving it. I still think Nola is the best, but Over the Under would be my 2nd choice.....I already like it better than Down II. My top 2 favorite songs are Mourn and N.O.D.

[CanadianFonzie]

why so surprised?

[MaDMaNMaRz]

It just doesn't seem like the type of band you'd listen to. I know you're mainly into the 80's hair metal, so it surprises me somehow, lol.

[CanadianFonzie]

I hate when people think they've determined my type of music and don't let me like anything else

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I don't mean to sound like an ass. :( But you do talk about that kind of music ALOT. That's all i'm saying. Sorry if I offended you.

[CanadianFonzie]

well sure it's what I essentially listen to, but when people say stuff like you said about being surprised that I like A7X because they're not "old" just always makes me feel trapped in my musical interests

[Lance Lives]

You do also say stuff is not your type of music quite a bit, especially in this thread. So when you only talk about one type and constantly say you don't like others, it's easy to get pigeon-holed.

I personally don't like those dudes very much. Haven't been too exposed to them though so I won't talk shit, and I will say that one riff on their Guitar Hero song is catchy as shit.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Yeah, the verse riff is pretty cool. I don't really care for the vocals, though.

Tim - I LOVE the new Down album. I've been listening to it non-stop since I got it. I think it's better than Down II, but I still prefer Nola over it.

[CanadianFonzie]

when I first heard them I didn't care for the vocals, than they kinda grew on me, but that's the City of Evil album, that album was mainly guitars, while the new album shows great musicianship equally throughout the band and definetally their best effort to date, ofcourse I'm not trying to convince you guys to like them or nothing, that would be wrong

another band I've recently taken a bit of a fancy to is Disturbed

and when I say I don't like the music that you guys are talking about, that's cause you guys are talking about more thrashy type stuff that I couldn't go near if I tried, I like any music that I think sounds good, simple as that

[Lance Lives]

Oh yeah, the new Down is good stuff. I still like both Nola and II better though, with Nola being the undisputed classic.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Right now, i'd say Mourn is my top favorite song off it. That and N.O.D.

I agree that Nola is still the best. Hell, that album is legendary! :D

[Lance Lives]

Three Suns and One Star and Walk Away are my favorite I think. The Thrall of it All is good too, I think I like just about all of 'em pretty close, except On March the Saints. I pretty much hate that song.

[CanadianFonzie]

MMM, I know how you love the Iron Maiden album Somewhere in Time, did you know that in 2008 they are doing a tour for that album, I'm guessing they're going to play the whole album live, so far they only have 2 North American dates, New Jersey and Toronto, I'm personally gonna try and convince my brither into seeing them, cause he's the kind of guy who wouldn't see a band live twice (ironically, I think the show he saw them on WAS the original Somewhere in Time tour)

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I didn't know that! Thanks for the heads up, Fonz. :) Yeah, I really like that album alot. It's definitely in my top 3.

[CanadianFonzie]

I'd like to see that, if you recall, when I last saw Iron Maiden a bit over a year ago, they played their entire new album live, which I didn't really care for, and they left out virually every concert staple, while if I see them this time and they leave out all the staples again, atleast they will have played the entire album of an actual good Maiden album:p...if that made sense, lol

[zombie extra 3]

Some metal/hard rock stuff I bought recently.

KISSology Volume 2
Megadeth Warchest
Best of Lizzy Borden
Blind Guardian - Battalions of Fear

[CanadianFonzie]

that Kissology Volume 2 is incredible, I think cause it's my favourite era of Kiss, and Warchest looks interesting, but I don't know if I'd spend the money...just yet

[aerokissfloyd]

I got all the Children of Bodom albums last week. Incredible. I learned to play Kissing the Shadows on guitar. I love it. It's really fun to play.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I like their older stuff: Follow the Reeper, Something Wild, Hatebreeder. I thought Hate Crew Deathroll was decent. I couldn't really get into Are You Dead Yet? I don't seem to like them as much anymore for some reason. :confused:

Tim - Have you ever heard Fleshgrind before? They were a pretty good brutal death band from Chicago. :) They broke up in 2005. I'm still bummed. There last album, Murder Without End was pretty good.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Tim - Yeah, they do play Frightmare on XMLM! They played Midnight Murder Mania today. :) They've been playing Down quite a bit too.

[zombie extra 3]

I got two more metal CDs. Both NWOBHM. One album is old, one new:

Diamond Head - Lightning to the Nations
Saxon - The Inner Sanctum

[Lance Lives]

Have you heard any Rwake on XMLM Madman? I know that they sometimes play the song Fire and Flight which is badass but not their best song. I really recommend Rwake, they are so good.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Tim - Yeah, i've heard the song Fire and Flight on there one day. I liked it.

I think it'd be really cool if XMLM played some more bands from Razorback Records, and Unique Leader Records. Even though I have MMM, I was so happy to hear Frightmare on radio. :)

[Lance Lives]

Yeah, it would rule if I could check out more Razorback bands without having to make blind buys.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Well, here's some links to other Razorback band Myspace pages, if you're interested.

Lord Gore (http://www.myspace.com/lordgoreofficial) - Maniac Neil played guitar on their Resickened album. :)

Fondlecorpse (http://www.myspace.com/fondlecorpse)

Engorged (http://www.myspace.com/engorged)

Crypticus (http://www.myspace.com/crypticus)

Ghoul (http://www.myspace.com/creepsylvania)

Gruesome Stuff Relish (http://www.myspace.com/gruesomestuff)

Impetigo (http://www.myspace.com/impetigo)

I like all of them. Lord Gore and Engorged are my favorites of the ones I listed. There's another band called F.K.U. that is pretty good. They sort of remind me of the 80's Destruction stuff. If you like Destruction, you'd like them.

[Lance Lives]

I got a free Ghoul sticker with some t-shirts I bought from Punk Stuff one time. Are they any good?
Madman, I'm looking for sample heavy (preferably horror samples) metal again. Any suggestions?

[Rich]

Rob Zombie's live cd is really good.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I got a free Ghoul sticker with some t-shirts I bought from Punk Stuff one time. Are they any good?
Madman, I'm looking for sample heavy (preferably horror samples) metal again. Any suggestions?

Sorry for not responding sooner. Honestly, other than the ones i've mentioned previously, I don't really know of any metal bands that have alot of samples from horror films. Also, I guess the current issue of Metal Maniacs has a 3 page interview with Blood Freak! I'm definitely going to pick that up soon.

I just found out Blood Freak are playing their 1st live performance on Jan. 25th in Portland, Oregon! If I were able to make it, i'd go in a heart beat.

Maniac Neil found other musicians finally, so the next BF album will have a regular lineup! They've written 8 songs already, and will begin recording late Jan-early Feb. Neil said it's going to be less thrashy than Multiplex Massacre, and more death metal/grindcore oriented. I'm really looking forward to it.

[Lance Lives]

That rules, is that issue of Metal Maniacs the same one that has a Weedeater interview in it? Because if so that's a badass issue and I'm gonna have to pick it up even though I'm COMPLETELY broke. I'm stoked about the new Blood Freak, can't wait.

Dude, I just drove two and a half hours to see Weedeater and they didn't come because their van broke down. That sucked.

[Geomonic]

Everyone, check out Skindred.

They fuse reggae, metal and punk with a little bit of dance to make raggapunk, and it's fucking amazing. Two CD's (Babylon and Roots Rock Riot), truely amazing band that need some recognition.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=3011504

Check 'em!

(From album Babylon)

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(From album Roots Rock Riot)

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[CanadianFonzie]

I'm currently enjoying my newly bought Ozzy album, The Ultimate Sin, up to now I only knew Shot in the Dark, but I'm getting to know what a great album it really is

[zombie extra 3]

I bought Loudness - Best Songs Collection (Japan Import) from Vintage Vinyl. Awesome stuff.

[Rich]

Ultimate Sin is a great album. I think over all Ozzy's best solo album is No More Tears followed very closely by Blizard of Oz.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

My personal favorite has always been Diary of a Madman. Blizzard of Ozz would be my 2nd choice.

[Violent VictiM]

Hey Geo, those Skindred guys aren't half bad. At first you when named all of those things I was pretty skeptical, but all in all it's a pretty dope sound.

[Geomonic]

Hey Geo, those Skindred guys aren't half bad. At first you when named all of those things I was pretty skeptical, but all in all it's a pretty dope sound.

You're not wrong, and I barely scratched the surface. Out of the two albums they have released, I'm hard pushed to name a song i don't like. Great live also, seen them twice and seeing them again in February. Well worth checking out the new album, it's fantastic. :)

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I recently bought the new Exodus album and the Dethklok album. The Dethklok one is pretty cool. The new Exodus is killer! I like it better than Shovel Headed Kill Machine so far. IMO, I still think Tempo of the Damned is the best of their newer albums.

Have any of you guys heard the new Exodus yet? What do you think of it?

[Lance Lives]

I got that Dethklok album, I actually think it jams out. First two tracks are badass I think.

Um, I was listening to Immortally Insane by Pantera last night and damn it made me wish that they would release the material they were talking about letting out after Dimebag died, they really were a badass band and no amount of over exposure is gonna make me think different.

[SoulOnFire]

Skindred is indeed a good band. I saw them open a show that also had Chevelle (rocked), Breaking Benjamin (sucked), and Korn (rocked the fucking house). They kicked ass and really got the crowd going.

I'm listening to the new Epica right now and liking it. My first time hearing them. Simone is fricking hot.

The new Exodus is decent, but I miss when thrash had a certain melodic side to it. Now it's just chug-chug-chug with some growls thrown in. Remember when bands would throw in really awesome melodic parts in the middle of songs?

Dethklok is the best new death metal album in a long time. They actually throw some groove and melody into the mix, which I love.

I don't have a metal album of the year yet. Does anyone have one? There's been so much good shit this year. I'm leaning towards Amorphis - Silent Waters being my number one.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I agree with you guys about the Dethklok album. It really jams!

Tim - I agree about Pantera. I really wished they would release the unreleased tracks as a CD. That would be great. :)

SoulOnFire - I do agree. I much prefer 80's-early 90's thrash....but Exodus still kick ass IMO. The new album is pretty good. After listening to Shovel Headed Kill Machine some more today, i'd actually say I prefer that one over The Atrocity Exhibition. It does have some songs that have a slight 80's vibe, such as Funeral Hymn, and Children of a Worthless God.

My favorite Exodus album is actually Fabulous Disaster. Then i'd say Bonded by Blood. Pleasures of the Flesh is pretty underrated IMO. It has one of my favorite songs by them...Parasite

[CanadianFonzie]

I much prefer 80's-early 90's thrash

you wouldn't believe how many times you have said that in the past year and a half, lol

[Lance Lives]

God, I need some new music to listen to. Ever feel like you don't have anything to rock? I doubt you do Madman because it would seem you have a limitless amount of cds. I just have trouble buying music because I'm always afraid it's not gonna be any good.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

God, I need some new music to listen to. Ever feel like you don't have anything to rock? I doubt you do Madman because it would seem you have a limitless amount of cds. I just have trouble buying music because I'm always afraid it's not gonna be any good.

Are there any bands you haven't heard that you're curious about? I can try to help out. :) I used to feel like that when I didn't own as many CD's. But now I always have something to rock.

I've been rocking Exhorder all day. I love both albums, but I slightly prefer The Law over Slaughter in the Vatican. I really like their cover of Black Sabbath's Into the Void. (Cadence) of the Dirge is a badass song too. All of them are really, IMO.

[Lance Lives]

I'm interested in Razorback stuff. Have you rocked that Bile band? I remember hearing some of their stuff back in the day and it was brutal. They have an album based on Friday the 13th (Camp Blood) and one based on Texas Chainsaw Massacre (The Shed).

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Well, here's some links to other Razorback band Myspace pages, if you're interested.

Lord Gore (http://www.myspace.com/lordgoreofficial) - Maniac Neil played guitar on their Resickened album. :)

Fondlecorpse (http://www.myspace.com/fondlecorpse)

Engorged (http://www.myspace.com/engorged)

Crypticus (http://www.myspace.com/crypticus)

Ghoul (http://www.myspace.com/creepsylvania)

Gruesome Stuff Relish (http://www.myspace.com/gruesomestuff)

Impetigo (http://www.myspace.com/impetigo)

Check out these Myspace links I posted a couple pages back. I think besides Frightmare and Blood Freak, that these are the better bands on Razorback Records. I know they each have some fan Myspace pages too, so there should be enough for you to hear if you ever want to buy any CD's.

Let me know what you think of any of them.

[Lance Lives]

Thanks dude, for the effort, but unless I get to a computer with faster internet I'm basically stranded on listening to internet music. I suppose when I get more money and I'm gonna buy some new cds I'll probably buy the Blood Freak cds I don't have yet first.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/2175/l758d0d376e793f3f74b391ym7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I'd REALLY love to be able to see that show. :)

[Lance Lives]

That would be badass dude, I agree.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I've seen footage of Lord Gore in concert. The quality of the video was pretty bad, but it seemed like it was a good show. I saw it on Youtube a while back.

Oh, I just remembered. Another sample heavy band I know of is Catasexual Urge Motivation. They have a CD on Razorback. It's called Nekronicle. I bought it a while back at this Metal CD store in Chicago. :) They're from Japan. They play the sickest, most twisted gore grind ever. :D But I honestly don't think i'd recommend them. I've only listened to the whole thing 1 time. But if you're really into sick gore grind, it's worth to listen to at least once.
ADDED:
Razorback Records signed a new band called Hooded Menace. They're pretty good. They're a doom/death metal band from Finland. I think you'd dig them. They have a couple of tracks on their Myspace page. You should check it out: http://www.myspace.com/hoodedmenace

I'd also recommend Mausoleum....another Razorback band. They're a doom/death/grind band too. They have a new album coming out. From what i've heard, the new album is going to be their best material IMO. http://www.myspace.com/mausoleumpa

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Tim - Have you heard any of Maniac Neil's other projects: Maniac Killer, Whore, Fornicator?

I mentioned the band Catasexual Urge Motivation before. Although they're quite different, if you like Maniac Killer you'd probably like C.U.M.

http://www.myspace.com/maniacneil - If you've seen the movie Motel Hell, you'll recognize the pic on the page. :)

I've always liked real sick, twisted gore grind like CUM, Meatshits, and Disgorge(Mexico)

[Lance Lives]

Nah dude, I haven't heard any of those bands...I'm so fuckin' behind.

[Lance Lives]

My mom is getting me the other two Blood Freak cds I don't have for Christmas...so, that rules.

[Slice]

Huge news from the Iced Earth camp. Matt Barlow is back in the band. I don't have a link to the story, but if you visit Blabbermouth you'll find an article there with a statement from Jon. No reason was given for Ripper's dismissal. As much as it sucks for Ripper to be ousted, it's going to be great to hear Matt back in the band.

[CanadianFonzie]

okay I'm finally gonna say this, after reading so many articles about him on Blabbermouth.net...Phil Anselmo has to control his ego

[Lance Lives]

If anybody has the right to have a big ego, it's Phil. I realize that he's a control freak and thinks alot of himself, but fuck it, I dig just about everything he's ever done so I think alot of him too. I've met him twice and he was nice as fuck both times so I have absolutely nothing but good stuff to say about him. Second time I met him he struck up a conversation about my horror patches and just talked to me about Evil Dead like any ol' Joe.

[CanadianFonzie]

well as I said, I was just judging by what he says on Blabbermouth.net, I wouldn't know what he's like in person cause I have no intentions of ever meeting him, though I did see Down live last March...I know his ego isn't anywhere near as bad as George Lynch's

[Lance Lives]

I'm really glad that Matt is gonna be back with Barlow. It just goes to show you that John really doesn't know what he's doing, he claimed that Ripper was the future of the band and now just because fans were telling him what was up he owned Ripper and brought Barlow back. No complaints though, I far prefer Matt. It's just a shame that his "epic" is gonna be tainted by having two different vocalist on two different parts. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he re-recorded it with Barlow.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

If anybody has the right to have a big ego, it's Phil. I realize that he's a control freak and thinks alot of himself, but fuck it, I dig just about everything he's ever done so I think alot of him too. I've met him twice and he was nice as fuck both times so I have absolutely nothing but good stuff to say about him. Second time I met him he struck up a conversation about my horror patches and just talked to me about Evil Dead like any ol' Joe.

I agree. I've always been a huge fan of Phil since I was a little kid. He's one of my idols. He does seem like he'd be real nice in person. That's cool how he talked about horror films with you. I know in the Superjoint Ritual CD, in the thanks list, he referrenced Evil Dead. He also mentioned Cannibal Holocaust in the 3 Watch it Go Video.

Tim - Frightmare are on hold right now! Neil really wants to concentrate on Blood Freak at the moment. When they're done recording the new album, he wants to do tours. So we won't be hearing that new Frightmare album for awhile. They aren't dead. Neil and Dave both stated that they DO want to continue Frightmare.

I've been listening to Down II and III alot lately. After listening to them both thoroughly back to back, i'd say that Down II is the better album. Landing on the Mountains of Megiddo is starting to become one of my all time favorites.

[Lance Lives]

That sucks about Frightmare, but maybe Blood Freak will come somewhere close and I could see them (HIGHLY doubt it).
I agree Megiddo is a great track, it's got Phil's ex wife Opal on it. She had an acoustic cd under the name Southern Isolation and I really quite enjoyed it. She also did keyboards for Necrophagia when Phil was in the band and was in Viking Crown too. II is by far the better disc, but hey, that's just opinion!

P.S. Great to see you back Madman, I was missin' ya dude!

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I'd love to see Blood Freak in concert.

Yeah, I remember she did the keyboards for Necrophagia and Viking Crown. The keyboards for Necrophagia's Cannibal Holocaust is awesome. I actually like Viking Crown, from the stuff i've heard from them. I like that real raw, primitive black metal......stuff like Darkthrone.

I do definitley think Down II is better than III. Not to say III is bad, because it's a badass album. Nola will always be their best IMO. There's an article with Down in the new Metal Maniacs (the one with Electric Wizard on the cover). Pepper was saying that they will probably release a DVD! I'm looking forward to that. That issue also has the interview with Neil Smith

It's cool that you're going to get the first 2 Blood Freak CD's. Let me know what you think of them

[Lance Lives]

Yeah, I really wish I could get that issue. At least 3 great bands prominantly covered. I've heard that the new Electric Wizard is a return to form and as good as their immortal Dopethrone (I'll believe it when I hear it).

Yeah, Down are supposed to be working on a feature length dvd in the vain of movies like The Song Remains the Same (their words not mine) which will document their first tour this go round which was to England I think. They had some footage from that tour included in their video they show before the concert. I look forward to it. I hope they release a straight up concert dvd too.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

From what i've heard, Witchcult Today is supposed to be really good. I've heard the song they posted on their Myspace. I liked it alot. I don't actually own any Electric Wizard albums, unfortunately. :( I have heard songs off of Come My Fanatics and Dopethrone. Dopethrone is heavy as fuck.

The new issue is pretty good. There's this one band they interviewed in there called Portal. I want to check them out. I guess they're a mix of old Immolation, Incantation, and even Demilich! But they also have their own unique touch. I really want to hear some of their stuff.
ADDED:
Damn! Portal is great!. They're a pretty sludgy, doom death metal band. I HAVE to get the new CD. Here's the link, Tim. I think you'd dig them.

http://www.myspace.com/portalxiii

[CanadianFonzie]

Just got Iron Maidens "Somewhere in Time" and Judas Priests "Painkiller"

I shall repeat, I can't wait to see Iron Maiden in March on their Somewhere BACK In Time Tour

[Lance Lives]

Skipped through those new Blood Freak cds earlier. I think Sleaze Merchants has the best sound as of right now, but I'll be back with more thoughts after I go driving somewhere (that's usually when I listen to music).

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Glad to hear you like it so far. :)

Tim - Are you into the 80's style Italian zombie film soundtracks? You should check out the Anima Morte Myspace Page. Their songs like they could fit in a Lucio Fulci film. I just ordered there CD off of Razorback a few minutes ago. I can't wait to get it!

Here's the Myspace page if you're interested: http://www.myspace.com/animamorte

They just added a new track on there, Devoid of a Soul. Around 3:00 in to it or so, there's this really cool guitar melody. That and The Graveyard Plagues are my favorites. I can't wait to hear all of their songs. I'll let you know how it is when I get the CD.

[CanadianFonzie]

got some hard to find cd's downtown, some of which were 2 Accept albums (Russian Roulette and Eat the Heat) and Megadeth's KIMB (which is their debut, for you young 'uns out there, lol)

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Tim - Here's a new Frightmare vid. It's the song "By Sword, By Pick, By Axe, Bye Bye", with clips from The Mutilator. :) It's pretty cool.

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There's also videos for Sleepaway Camp and The Driller Killer.

[Lance Lives]

Who made up those videos?
Hey Madman, you got that Metal Maniacs with the Neil interview right? I remember when I was trying to read it real quick in the bookstore that he mentioned having an eBay store, can you tell me what the name is?

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Tim - It's called Undead DVD.

I actually don't remember who made those Frightmare videos.

That Metal Maniacs was a really good issue. That Blood Freak interview with Neil was really cool. I remember there was an issue of that when he released Bringing Back The Bloodshed, but it was alot smaller of an article.

I'm also finding that alot of places aren't carrying Pit Magazine anymore. :( That's actually how I discovered Razorback Records back in 2003! They had an article that showed Frightmare's Midnight Murder Mania, Catasexual Urge Motivation, Machetazo, and The County Medical Examiners. The descriptions really caught my attention, especially for Frightmare.....Slalk n' Slash grind. :D It had Ministry on the cover. I still actually look through it to this day, lol. It's sort of nostalgic for me.
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I got the Anima Morte CD yesterday from Razorback. :) I'm going to listen to it in a few minutes. I'll let you know how the whole CD is.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Tim - Have you ever heard Gorguts before? Their first 2 albums, Considered Dead and The Erosion of Sanity are amazing. They're both great, but I think The Erosion of Sanity is the better of the 2. You should check out some songs by them online. I think you'd dig them. They're one of my all-time favorite old school death metal bands.

I'd definitely put The Erosion of Sanity in my top 10 list of favorite death metal albums. Considered Dead was relatively straightforward compared to the 2nd one. It takes a few listens to REALLY get into it, because there is alot thrown at you. But once you really get into it, you really appreciate it. It's a masterpiece!

I got the new Aeon album yesterday, Rise to Dominate. It's pretty good. It sounds like a mix of George Fisher era Cannibal Corpse, Deicide, and early Morbid Angel.

[Lance Lives]

That sounds like a good mix to me Mike...I swear if I had fast internet you would keep me up to date on tunes but I can't hardly EVER get a chance to listen to these fellas. Even my new job has dail-up internet so I'm screwed there too. I did spend most of today searching for OOP VHS on Ebay while getting paid though, so that's cool.

Also, I was watching some of my Seinfeld DVDs last night and George's girlfriend's father said Impetigo and boy had I been saying it wrong. I still need to check those guys out because everybody is claiming 'em for inspiration.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I like Impetigo. They're often cited as the godfathers of gore. While I like them, I personally think Carcass are better.

I sent you a PM of some slasher recommendations. So if you check any of them out, let me know what you think. :)

What would be your Top 10 death metal album list, Tim?

Mine can change from time to time. My current Top 10, in no particular order. Gorguts, Death, and Suffocation are always on my list. :):

1. Gorguts - The Erosion of Sanity
2. Death - Leprosy
3. Suffocation - Effigy of the Forgotten
4. Morbid Angel - Altars of Madness
5. Grave - You'll Never See...
6. Cannibal Corpse - Tomb of the Mutilated
7. Immolation - Dawn of Possession
8. Cynic - Focus
9. Malevolent Creation - Retribution
10. Obituary - Cause of Death

[Lance Lives]

Hmm, I'll have to think about that and get back here but I need to check out that Gorguts disc real quick like since you've been talking so much good about it.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Cool.

Yeah bro, Gorguts has been one of my favorite death metal bands for a LONG time. They were in a class of their own on The Erosion of Sanity. Considered Dead is great too. Luc Lemay is a great vocalist and guitar player.

I think you'd dig them. The song Condemned to Obscurity has this awesome, very haunting sounding piano intro. The riffs are badass in that song too.

Here's the cover for it, which is a Dan Seagrave cover. :)

http://www.truemetal.org/metalwallpaper/images/gorguts.jpg

[Lance Lives]

I personally really think that metal, death and black metal especially truly have the best covers ever. Some, such as that one are really beautiful to me.
Oh yeah, have you seen the bit of the new Blood Freak cover that has been released, it really looks like it's gonna be great too.