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Zombie
01-05-2008, 10:39 AM
I find this a bit funny. Losman who has been stinking up the Bills QB position is now acting like he's some kind of "good" QB? Saying he's unhappy and want's to be traded or acting like he's going to leave. I was a big supporter of Losman when Bledsoe was our QB, even last year I wanted Losman in more then Holcomb, but this year it was just proof JP is nothing. Maybe the Bills should have got rid of him before the season maybe getting a better trade for him?

If Losman had produced better games, points, and was just better then I could see his point. However right now it's more like a "You got to be kidding me" with the way he's thinking. They talk about how he had a better QB Rating then Edwards, but I think Edwards did a great job and was kind of one of those guy's that had the talent and just needed a chance. I think Losman might have been better had they brought him into the offense during the Bledsoe years and even last year. But Buffalo did screw him in a way by always changing QB's last year and this year. They haven't just settled on one QB and stick with him through good or bad. But I'm looking more last year is when they should have done that, this year Losman started off horrible. If it wasn't for Edwards our record would have been worse this year I think.

So, let Buffalo trade him. You know Cleveland has their "future" franchise QB with Derek Anderson and I think Brady Quinn ended up being a waste for them Sure he might be a good QB but he sat there demanded more money then never started as Cleveland ended up having a diamond in the rough. I'd be willing to lose our 1st round pick with Losman for a trade for Quinn. I think he could be our Franchise QB unless Edwards just blows up next year. I think Edwards did an outstanding job for being a rookie and ended up starting for the team.

I think Buffalo just beat themselves mentally in the end because of the injuries in the year, they already were kicked from the Playoffs pretty much, so in a way I don't thik they really cared. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they gave up games just so they could get a little better draft spot.

The one thing I've noticed in Buffalo is we cannot "FINISH" games or put people away. We'll start off great, then for some reason they think the game ends at half time and ends up giving it up the second half.

So let Losman cry all he wants. I don't think he has any valid reason with the way he performed this year. He just stunk up the place.




BUFFALO, N.Y. -- Bills quarterback J.P Losman wants out of Buffalo, unhappy with how he lost his starting job to rookie Trent Edwards during the 2007 season.
Losman's agent, Gary Wichard, told The Associated Press on Friday that his client would prefer to be traded, but added Losman would play out the final year of his contract if necessary. Wichard said he has not yet spoken to the Bills because the team is seeking a new general manager after Marv Levy stepped down earlier this week.
Whether the Bills choose to keep Losman, Wichard said he didn't see any chance of Losman remaining with the team after next season.
http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/getty/headshot/E/D/W/EDW720778.jpg Trent Edwards (http://www.nfl.com/players/trentedwards/profile?id=EDW720778)
2007 statistics
Att: 269
Comp: 151
Yards: 1,630
TD/INT: 7/8
Rating: 70.4

http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/image/getty/headshot/L/O/S/LOS588329.jpg <A href="http://www.nfl.com/players/j.p.losman/profile?id=LOS588329" _extended="true">J.P. Losman (http://www.nfl.com/players/j.p.losman/profile?id=LOS588329)</A _extended="true">
2007 statistics
Att: 175
Comp: 111
Yards: 1,204
TD/INT: 4/69

"That ship has sailed, my friend," Wichard said. "Hopefully, they do something this year. And if not, we'll just walk away after next year."
Wichard said he spoke out now because he knew how unhappy his client is. He said he and Losman didn't want to air their views during the season so not to cause a distraction to the team.
Losman declined numerous interview requests over the final weeks of the season, and also after Bills players cleaned out their lockers on Monday after a 7-9 finish, in which Buffalo missed the playoffs for a franchise record eighth consecutive season.
"I give him credit for handling this thing the way he has," Wichard said. "But at the end, he said, "I'm out of here.
The Bills were not immediately available for comment.
Bills owner Ralph Wilson has previously said the team has not made a decision on Losman's future, and didn't rule out the possibility of the player returning for one more year.
Noting the number of starters injured this season, Wilson told The AP last month that it might be important for the Bills to keep two experienced players.
The Bills, however, are high on Edwards, the third-round draft pick out of Stanford, who is expected to return as the starter despite an up-and-down season.
The Bills went 2-3 this season with Edwards as the starter after he reclaimed the starting job for a second time from Losman. Edwards took over the first time in Week 3 after Losman sprained his knee during the first series of a 38-7 loss at New England.
Losman reclaimed the starting job after Edwards sprained his throwing hand five weeks later in a 13-3 win at the New York Jets (http://www.nfl.com/teams/newyorkjets/profile?team=NYJ). Losman, who rallied the Bills to beat the Jets, went 2-2 in his next four starts before losing the job again.
Wichard said Losman was unhappy by the lack of support the team provided him.
"He knows they bailed on him," Wichard said. "Nobody would ever say, `J.P., you're our quarterback.' They said it was a week to week job. He was waiting to be yanked. And that's what eventually happened."
Wichard said it was disappointing particularly after Losman showed promise in leading the team to a 7-9 finish in 16 starts last year. Losman also finished 13th in the NFL with a 89.7 passer rating.
In eight appearances this season, including seven starts, Losman finished with slightly better numbers than Edwards. Losman completed 63.4 percent of his passes and finished with a 76.9 rating, as opposed to Edwards, who had a 56.1 completion percentage and 70.4 rating.
Losman, though, had only four touchdowns and six interceptions, while Edwards had 7 touchdowns and was intercepted eight times.
The quarterback carousel contributed to the Bills finishing 31st in the NFL in yards gained. Buffalo's offense produced only 20 touchdowns, setting a franchise low for a 16-game season.
The Bills are also searching for a new offensive coordinator after Steve Fairchild was hired to take over at Colorado State.
Losman was the second of Buffalo's two first-round picks in the 2004 draft, and cost the team plenty. The Bills gave up three draft picks, including a 2005 first-round selection, in order to trade back into the first round and select Losman 22nd overall.
He's had an up-and-down tenure in Buffalo, which began with Losman missing most of his rookie season after breaking his leg in training camp.
Losman was awarded the starting job in February 2005, a move that led to veteran Drew Bledsoe being released. Losman, however, was benched twice that season in favor of journeyman <A href="http://www.nfl.com/players/kellyholcomb/profile?id=HOL006197" _extended="true">Kelly Holcomb (http://www.nfl.com/players/kellyholcomb/profile?id=HOL006197)</A _extended="true">.

Uncle Hoody
01-05-2008, 03:01 PM
The problem with Losman is that he was a reach in the first round to begin with. I mean sure, he was the last of the four first round QBs anyway, and hindsight is 20/20 but Matt Shaub went in that draft. You also that year had Luke McCown who always competes for the starting spot. So when looking at the pool that year there was a good bit of quality guys coming out quarterback wise, but outside of Rivers, Manning, and Roethlisberger, JP and Matt are the only 2 that have had any significant starting experience. The other 12 drafted are either back ups or out of he NFL all together. I mean would you really trust Craig Krenzel with extended playing time as your starting quarterback? Or Cody Pickett? Matt Mauck anyone? anyone? He won a BCS championship played backup for a few teams and is now in dental school (where he said he was going to go anyway until that game bumped him from Free Agent training camp fodder to sixth round QB).

Note: Jim Sorgi was drafted this year as well and I am still not convinced backing up Peyton Manning automatically makes you a good quarterback too.


Losman sees himself as something he's not. He was a perfect starter.....you know in Conference USA. As an NFL quarterback, I'd liken him to maybe Kyle Orton. Orton's not really a starter, but he's damn good whenever you need him in small doses.

Buffalo lucked out with nabbing Trent Edwards when they did. The young man has natural talent and the only reason he fell the way he did is he was burdened by being a quarterback from Stanford with durability questions. (Don't throw Jay Cutler still being a first round talent despite being at a poor football school, it just illustrates how much tougher the SEC is compared to the Pac-10)

Come to think of it, Buffalo had a fantastic draft getting in rounds 1,2, and 3 what I consider to all be first round talents. Such is life.

I'll be watching in amusement as JP Losman finally finds a team that will allow him to start next year:




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bearholic247
01-05-2008, 05:52 PM
It's easy to pile on Losman but as someone who who didn't follow the Bills that closely this season I'd say not all the blame belongs with Losman. It appeared at times to make little sense why the Bills kept going back and forth between Edwards and Losman. When you do that can you really be surprised when players end up frustrated? I'd lay alot of the blame for this on head coach Dick Jauron. I think Dick Jauron has no idea how to handle quarterbacks.

After all this at least the 2nd time in his coaching career he's had a quarterback situation that seemed to change from week to week. When Jauron was head coach of the Chicago Bears there was a period of time in the 1999 and 2000 season where some weeks you didn't know if Cade McNown, Jim Miller or Shane Matthews would start. It got so bad in the 2000 season where Dick Jauron risked losing the team if he kept starting McNown. The Bears finally had to trade McNown after the 2000 season. Pretty much a disaster when you consider he was in the same draft as Dante Culpepper and Donovan McNabb.

There is no way of telling which qb the rest of the Bills players support more. I wouldn't be surprised if Losman isn't the only Bills player unhappy with how the qb situation was handled.

sCabbOy
01-05-2008, 07:14 PM
Edwards seems more of a prospect than Losman... anyone remember The Bill's prospect Rob Johnson (Michigan)? He was considered elite, and he lost his job to Flutie and then Bledsoe and where is he now? Retired. The Bills are a good team, but they can not score a lot. They lose 3-4 games a year by 1-3 points, and they always seem to start off slow (0-3, 1-4) and then catch fire and then lose the last game that costs them a playoff spot.

I live in Buffalo, and the fans here support the Bills graciously... but it's sort of aggravating that our QB can't throw. In the first 5 games this year the Bills scored like 2 passing TDs. That's horrible.

Biosynthnut v.2
02-04-2008, 10:48 AM
Glad to see him go. Never liked him.

Trent has better control of the ball, and can move under pressure. Give him some time he could be the next Jim Kelly.

Got Blood?
02-25-2008, 07:05 AM
Had to go to the main nfl page to see if that 4 td 69 int was right. I was relieved to see it was only 6 interceptions. Losman was never really that great anyway.He had his moments,but I'm sure hardcore Bills fans are glad to see Trent Edwards at the helm now.

sCabbOy
02-26-2008, 02:37 AM
Backup QB Shane Matthews a few years back should have started. Shane was a great backup that never really got a chance. He is much better than JP at any rate.

Zombie
02-27-2008, 06:07 AM
You know, I just wish that we (Bills) can just get a break for like 1-2 years. Not an easy schedule or lucky wins and a couple of playoff appearances. No, what I mean is an actual GOOD QB, WR's, and O-Line. Also our D that we USED to have before last year. It seems like we're just in the gutter every year and no matter who we pick up that looks promising, ends up not worth a damn. So far the only person that I think will improve even more this year will be our RB Marshawn Lynch and possible Trent Edwards if he's given the job right away in the beginning of the season and is taking it seriously right now in the off season and not getting lazy thinking he has it in his hands.

It's been over 10 years almost going to 20 years now that we haven't had any key players or "Superstars". The closest I think we had was Willis McGahee and kind of but very very small and only his first maybe second year Drew Bledsoe but then we got him to late. Yet where are they now? They're not with us.

Even with Edwards and Lynch is a gamble, they may start peaking when their contract is up and if we haven't done anything significant by then they're going to be gone and guess what we get... Again??? Some other young rookie(s) and a draft pick here and there and back to "Re-building" AGAIN!!!

Thats all it feels like we're doing, is rebuilding every fuckin year. We get everyone ready and get them playing pretty good just about to get over that bump and make a name for themselves and off they go because everyone else sucks.

I was thinking, and this might be just a wild long shot day dreaming idea lol but we could get rid of JP, maybe a couple of others or our Draft Pick to possibly Cleavland and pick up Brady Quinn??? Yea yea, I know he didn't do "shit" last year but that's because Anderson just lit up and they didn't need Quinn, plus how would have Quinn done anyways being he was a rookie? We all saw how Lienhart did and I think he's more of a bust then QUinn, at least they didn't rush him into the starting position. If you look at it, Quinn is going to get frustrated this year possibly because I don't see him starting unless something drastic happens to Anderson, Clevland really don't need him per say because if Anderson does indeed go down, you're going to want someone that is experianced and has taken more snaps then Quinn which JP could provide for them. Granted he has this big head and thinks he should be a starter, but I don't see him going ANYWHERE and landing a starting position, maybe and that's a big MAYBE Atlanta, other then that though I don't know of any other team that doesn't already have a decent/better QB then Losman already?

It does put us in another bind in a way with Edwards because he kind of looks promising, but he still hasn't shown much or if he can really take us anywhere. I kind of trust more in Quinn being one of the next big QB's if given the chance. So does Edwards though, but then again I still dont see him being a "big" superstar QB. I see him being more of a guy that can come in when needed and taking over the game but not being able to handle the pressure of big games.

We also need to get our D we had again. We used to have like the top 5 D in the NFL but we just didn't have an Offense to do anything and our O ended up wearing down our D. Thats what I noticed especially in the game against Dallas last year. Our D did outstanding, but once our O got on the field they didn't do shit to move the ball and like 5-10 mins later (well maybe 15-20 with all the interruptions and stuff) there was our D running back on the field yet again and when it finally came down to when we needed the stop the most they were just to worn out and couldn't stop Dallas if their lives or season counted on it. I blame the Offense mostly for losing that game, yeah Dallas D was good, but we surely could have done better and that was the same way all year. Our O just couldn't produce points.

But now I don't know, now thinking more about it after typing all this, I kind of think of maybe giving Edwards that chance even though he's not a "big name" player (yet at least, and hopefully it's just "yet" lol) and I might be jumping the gun on just wanting someone "big", but hell, if we were offered Manning, Brady, Brees, or any other big big superstar QB (thats not past their prime of course) I'd be all over that, but we all know that's not even a reality. But, that Quinn theory could be interesting and I wonder if they've even looked at that option and or how Cle is looking at it because I'm sure it's crossed their minds especially seeing how Anderson broke out for them and will be whom they build their future around IMO and Quinn is still "hot" so they can and should get rid of him while they can before he ends up being a bench warmer and or gets hurt in the off/pre-season and or when he does get a chance he just totally tanks it and then his value goes extremly down.

Guess we'll have to wait and see. All I know is I got a text today saying we signed "Fitzpatrick" today for our punter.. ooooo awwww, woooooww, a punter... Just what we needed. He can definitely get us in the end zone and or protect whomever we have at QB.... :shy:

sCabbOy
02-28-2008, 12:16 AM
I don't think they need to rebuild, they have it, they just can't get it together. For the past 3-4 seasons they got off to a very slow start only to get hot (and get a playoff hope) and then slow down at the end. They need an impact player that will close up those 3 point loss gaps.

We all thought Drew Bledsoe was the answer, but he seemed to be just another QB. The WIllis McGahee at RB was our next saviour, and he's now gone.

Uncle Hoody
04-17-2008, 12:54 PM
NFL.com

ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. -- Quarterback J.P. Losman doesn't appear to be going anywhere despite his request that the Buffalo Bills trade him.

"J.P.'s on this roster and he's a part of this organization. And we anticipate J.P.'s going to be on this team," Bills chief operating officer, Russ Brandon, said during the team's annual pre-draft luncheon Wednesday.
J.P. Losman, QB
Buffalo Bills

Career Statistics:
Games started: 31
Yards: 5,627
TD: 31
INT: 29

"He's here and that's how we're approaching it," Brandon added.

Losman has one year left on his contract, but wants out of Buffalo after losing the starting job to rookie third-round pick Trent Edwards last season. It was the second time in three years Losman lost the No. 1 job. Veteran journeyman Kelly Holcomb beat him out midway through the 2005 season.

Losman reclaimed the job the following year, but that's not likely to happen again with the Bills intent on moving forward with Edwards as their starter this season.

Unhappy with how he's been treated, Losman made his trade request public through his agent, Gary Wichard, in early January. Wichard stressed that his client would play out his contract, but added he didn't foresee any way Losman would re-sign with the Bills once he becomes a free agent.

That means the Bills stand to lose Losman for nothing if they don't trade him.

Wichard declined comment when reached by The Associated Press on Wednesday.

The second of Buffalo's two 2004 first-round draft picks, Losman has been attending the team's offseason workout program, which began last month.

Brandon said the Bills value having two experienced quarterbacks on their roster, and noted there were more than 60 quarterbacks who made at least one start in the NFL last season.

Brandon discounted questions of whether Losman might be disgruntled if he's not traded.

"I don't think J.P.'s sulking here. He's a competitor," Brandon said. "We had conversations with him like we do all of our guys who are back in for workouts. And we don't anticipate any sulking from J.P."

SaturdayThe14th
12-04-2008, 10:26 PM
Losman....What a piece of garbage. I tried so hard to like him and hope things would work out, it didn't happen. Anyone out there remember him quoting Yoda in a press conference after a game a year or two ago? What a joke...