Guitar Hero & Rock Band

[CanadianFonzie]

I'm starting this thread again and no one can stop me!!! :D

[The Taff]

I'm starting this thread again and no one can stop me!!! :D

You evil bastard!

[CanadianFonzie]

hahaha! that's me alright! :p

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I'm looking forward to the 80's Edition. Can't wait to play Anthrax's Caught in a Mosh. :)

[zach82]

I was a bit disappointed in the 80s Encore setlist actually, a bit too poppy for my tastes. Ok, way too poppy actually.

[Titan]

I'm looking forward to the 80's Encore game. I need something new to play since i'm getting tired of playing all the other songs on Guitar Hero 1 and 2.

[Gringo Loco]

I can't wait for GHIII this fall. I'll either pick it up for the PS3 or the 360, I'm not sure which one yet.

[CanadianFonzie]

I don't find the 80's edition to be too poppy, Balls to the Wall, Metal Health, 18 and Lie, etc etc etc but yes it does have quite a bit of pop...but hey, that WAS the 80's

[zach82]

True. I know I'll still be getting it; I just think the setlist is much weaker than those of GH and GHII.

[CanadianFonzie]

what disapoints me is that they don't have any songs that you can buy, and like I said in the other forum, they ordered the songs so stupidly, usually they start the game with easy songs, on this 80's version the only easy song for the first group is the Go-Go's song while they have other easy songs such as Heat of the Moment and Shakin' and Lonely is the Night scattered at other places on the list

[girlychaos]

Poppa Bear...you know how addicted I am to GH!!! :D
I just can't wait for the 80's version to come out...

[Sketch Sanchez]

I just bought GHII for the 360 this week and I've fallen in love. I finally see what all the fuss is about.

Are any of the downloadable song packs any good?

[Gringo Loco]

Woaah, oh oh, Sweet Child o' Mine.....



Sorry, I had to get that out.:bang:

[jayTL]

I just bought GHII for the 360 this week and I've fallen in love. I finally see what all the fuss is about.

Are any of the downloadable song packs any good?



I have them all. If you want to spend the money, go for it. I like it

[girlychaos]

I don't have them, but I played GHII on the 360 and it's really cool!

I play I and II on PS2 and I love it too! :D

Does anyone know why there's extra song in the 360 version though?

[The Dream Master]

The extra songs are probably there as an incentive for anyone who's already bought the game on the PS2. It's only like five new songs though, I think, which certainly isn't enough to make me by it again.

[Gringo Loco]

I thought the songs on Xbox Live were from GH 1?

[The Dream Master]

Gringo, there are actually new songs on the disc itself. I know at least one of them was a song that was recorded after GH1 was released, so I don't think they're from the first game.

[Gringo Loco]

Wow, I didn't know that. I'm getting a 360 next month but I dunno whether to keep it or sell it on ebay. (I'm getting it for $40) If I keep it, I can buy GHII and GHIII and skip the PS3 GHIII. Choices, choices.

[girlychaos]

The extra songs are probably there as an incentive for anyone who's already bought the game on the PS2. It's only like five new songs though, I think, which certainly isn't enough to make me by it again.

Thanks for the info...I really appreciate that. :)

[Sketch Sanchez]

One cool thing about this is that I can use the guitar for ROCK BAND, so I'm relieved I wont have to spend more money on that game plus it's instruments if it ends up having a better song list.

[Gringo Loco]

I didn't know the guitars are interchangeable. That sounds good. One more reason to buy the 360 version of GHII.

[Sketch Sanchez]

From wiki:
Harmonix has confirmed Guitar Hero guitar controllers will be compatible with the game.[8] The company has also said that Rock Band will also support the use of additional third-party controllers, and, should Activision (the current publishers of Guitar Hero) request it, they can make the Rock Band guitar controller work with Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock.


All this was apparently taken from this news story:
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3158437

[Gringo Loco]

Do you know if the GHII guitar will work with GHIII?

[CanadianFonzie]

I'm not sure because PS3 used wireless controllers

all I have to say is those of you with GHII on XBox are lucky bastards because you get to play The Trooper and Hush

[Gringo Loco]

I'm not sure because PS3 used wireless controllers


I was referring to the 360 in my post. :)

[CanadianFonzie]

oh sorry, that's a whole different world isn't it, lol, I can only assume they will work

[Lance Lives]

I understand that The Trooper was on the X-Box 360 version. I would love to play that song. Other than that I'll just stick with the PS2 version.

80s edition seems like just a rent or something though.

What is the deal with this Rock Band game? Anybody have any info?

[CanadianFonzie]

well I know it's guitar hero with added drums and singing, I saw the sample of Welcome to the Jungle, looks amazing, my friend shall be getting it for my pleasure, lol

[Lance Lives]

So there is there gonna be a drum kit controller? That seems like it would be really expensive. That's funny though, our friend who is in a band and plays drums could never get good at Guitar Hero and we always said they should make Drumhero and we'd have to watch out.

[The Dream Master]

Harmonix claims that if one were able to master the drums on the hard setting for Rock Band, then they'd actually be able to play the instrument for real. Sounds cool.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I pre-ordered a copy of the Guitar Hero Rocks the 80's. It comes out this Tuesday. I'm psyched!! :)

[girlychaos]

I'm sooo jealous!!! :D

[Sketch Sanchez]

ROCK BAND is getting ALOT of positive buzz and I'm slowly getting excited for it. Plus, for all intents and purposes, it'll be the real guitar hero 3, but we shall see.

I may just get both games, but all the talk about ROCK BAND's DLC (including the ability to download whole albums or selected tracks off them) are really enticing.

[Gringo Loco]

Yep, I'm still torn between GHIII and Rock Band. Can you play Rock Band with just the guitar or drums?

[The Dream Master]

Gringo, yep, you can. The CPU takes over the other instruments if you just want to play one.

I really hope that the accessories are sold separately from the game. That way you can just buy whatever you feel like playing with.

[Gringo Loco]

I think the instruments are sold seperately. I read a leaked memo about the prices of each item. I think the memo was legit but I'm not 100% sure.

[CanadianFonzie]

Guitar Hero III doesn't have a set list I totally enjoy so I'm not totally looking forward to it, plus it's beign released for PS3, something I will not soon be getting

[Gringo Loco]

Guitar Hero III will be on all systems, minus the PSP and the DS heh. You can still play it on the PS2.

[CanadianFonzie]

oh really? wikipedia says it will be on PS2...but no where else

[girlychaos]

Is it true that Rock Band is going to have singing too?

[Gringo Loco]

oh really? wikipedia says it will be on PS2...but no where else

I'm pretty sure I read on Joystiq that it will be on all home consoles.

[The Dream Master]

Is it true that Rock Band is going to have singing too?

Yep! Somehow the game will be able to recognize that you're singing the right words. Not sure if it takes in how well you actually sing those words, but it would work in my favor if it didn't.

[Sketch Sanchez]

It's like Kareoke revolution, guitar hero and drum mania all rolled into one.

Each instrument has it's own sinlge player campaign, and you can go online and play "band" with other people if you only have one instrument. I'll prolly just get the bass and keep the guitar hero controller.

GH3 has welcome to the jungle, so thats a plus. LOL Also alot more master recordings, but ROck band will have that too. GH will also have boss battles which is...wierd.
Rock Band will have weekly DLC, thats a huge plus. Man if they give us a sublime album? or 311? I'd be in heaven.

[Mr. Undertaker]

they could become one united thing....that would be great!

[Titan]

This is the first I've heard of the Rock Band game. I'm very curious to see what it's gonna be like. Sounds like it could be really fun.

[Gringo Loco]

I know this is the GH thread, but I thought I would post this bit of news about Rock Band.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/807/807396p1.html

July 23, 2007 - Ever since Harmonix announced Rock Band, speculation has run rampant as to how much the game and instruments would cost. Retailers such as GameStop and Amazon have begun taking pre-orders for the band simulator, and they list SKUs for a bundle as well as each instrument sold separately. If the bundle price of $199.99 is accurate it will be right in line with what most of us were expecting.

The standalone game disc is listed for both the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 as $59.99. The drums are going for $80 and the microphone for $30. Strangely, the 360 version of the wireless guitar is listed as $80, while the PS3 guitar is $60.

GameStop says Rock Band will be released November 20. Of course, retailers often list preliminary price and release dates for games in order to begin taking pre-orders, and we'll have to wait for the official announcement from Electronic Arts to know the final information. But it's looking likely that Rock Band will set us back two Benjamins.

[The Dream Master]

Looks like I'm going to be buying the stand-alone disc and the guitar for the PS3. My brother wants the drums, but I think he'll be paying for it.

[Gringo Loco]

Looks like I will do the same. Although you could just tell him to pitch in when you buy the bundle and get the mic for free. I would do that.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I picked up my copy of Guitar Hero Rocks the 80's early this afternoon. I've been playing it all day. :)

Playing Anthrax's Caught in a Mosh on Expert Mode is a bitch, lol. Wrathchild by Iron Maiden is really fun to play as well.

I was SLIGHTLY disappointed by the fact that there aren't any bonus tracks you can buy in the game. Other than that, I think it's great.

Can't wait for Guitar Hero 3! :D

[CanadianFonzie]

the game kind of disappoints me because of the lack of effort I feel was put into it, I can't explain it in a nutshell, just they switch around parts of so many songs, don't get me wrong, I love the game

[MaDMaNMaRz]

The guy that sang Dio's Holy Diver was awful. I think it'd be better if they got the actual singer on all of the songs. Seriously, they REALLY needed to get Dio for the game, lol. The guy they used was awful. :X

[Melanie Jarvis]

I HATE Guitar Hero. I work at Best Buy and everytime a new version of it comes out, they set up the display by my department and leave it up for like a friggin year. It is making me hate great songs.

[girlychaos]

I can't wait to play both the 80's version and GH III....hey guys...I didn't really get it....you didn't like it?? :confused:

[Sketch Sanchez]

The guy that sang Dio's Holy Diver was awful. I think it'd be better if they got the actual singer on all of the songs. Seriously, they REALLY needed to get Dio for the game, lol. The guy they used was awful. :X

IUt cant be as bad as the singer for "killing in the name of" not only is he horrible, but since therees no cursing the song sounds fucking stupid. The singer for Incubus' "stellar" is poor as well, and its a shame because alot of the covers sound VERY close to the master versions, it's near uncanny sometimes how close their covers are, but not on those songs.

[Lance Lives]

Danzig's Mother and Lamb of God's Laid to Waste are the worst in my opinion. Probably just because they are the songs I know the most. Primus' John the Fisherman is the best because it's actually Les singing.

[Gringo Loco]

Here's a songlist of the tracks from GHIII. I don't think this list is complete so keep your eyes out for more tracks.

"Suck My Kiss" by the Red Hot Chili Peppers
"La Grange" made famous by ZZ Top
"Number Of The Beast" by Iron Maiden
"Through The Fire And Flames" by DragonForce
"Paint It Black" (by The Rolling Stones)
"Cherub Rock" (by Smashing Pumpkins)
"Sabotage" (by Beastie Boys)
"The Metal" (by Tenacious D)
"My Name is Jonas" (by Weezer)
"Knights of Cydonia" (by Muse)
"Rock And Roll All Nite" (as made famous by Kiss)
"School's Out" (as made famous by Alice Cooper)
"Slow Ride" (as made famous by Foghat)
"Cult of Personality" (by Living Colour)
"Barracuda" (as made famous by Heart)


Notice some of them say by "Insert band name here" and some say made famous by. There will be original tracks on GHIII. I dunno if there were any on previous games.

I was planning on buying Rock Band, but now I'm not sure what I'm going to do. I like alot of those songs.

[CanadianFonzie]

YES La Grange, Number of the Beast, just amazing

on the 80's version, there are 2 songs that I actually need to use star power, they are Because It's Midnight (which is kinda stupid because the solo is actually quite obviously a keyboard solo) and Electric Eye...I need to use stao power on Play With Me, but now I don't have to:D

[Mr. Undertaker]

Damn! i can barely go trough hard mode....i suck... :(

[girlychaos]

Damn! i can barely go trough hard mode....i suck... :(

I'm beginning to think I s*** too.....expert mode seems really far from reality right now! :(

[The Dream Master]

I'm horrible at the hard setting. I just don't have the patience to train myself to hit that last button (the orange one, I think?).

[girlychaos]

Yeah...that would be the orange one... :)

[The Dream Master]

The fact that I can't remember shows how often I don't play the hard mode. That setting has really damaged my video game ego.

[girlychaos]

:lol: But you can't give up...keep trying! :)

[Lance Lives]

That list looks awesome. Weezer, Cooper, ZZ Top, Maiden, Heart. All very fun bands.

I also figured there would be a Dragonforce song on there. Maybe it will bring them back to the limelight for another five minutes.

[CanadianFonzie]

on the 80's version, who ever covered Play With Me, I wish that's how the original song sounded, because I really don't like Gary Cherone's voice (being a Van Halen fan, it's obviouse why) and I wish that's how the original song sounded...too bad

[Mr. Undertaker]

I wanna play the 80's version so hard..... :(

[girlychaos]

Drop....me too! :(

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I beat GH Rocks the 80's on Expert Mode today!!!! :)

The Extreme song was a bitch.....that took me a few tries. It was the solo that gave me the problem.

I'm REALLY looking forward to GH 3. I can't wait to play Iron Maiden's The Number of the Beast. DRAGONFORCE!!!! Jeez, that song is going to be damn near impossible on Expert Mode, haha.

[girlychaos]

Mikey: Congrats!! :D

I can't wait to play GH 3 (and the 80's!).

[CanadianFonzie]

The Extreme song was a bitch.....that took me a few tries. It was the solo that gave me the problem.

.

that wasn't the solo that was a bitch to me, IMO it was Because It's Midnight...also had some troubles with Electric Eye, but I got that one under control now

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Oh yeah...Because it's Midnight was a pain in the ass. That was a crazy keyboard solo. Electric Eye is tough too.

I'd still say my favorite song to play is Anthrax's Caught in a Mosh. I can actually play the verse riff with all down strokes( that's how i'd play it on guitar). :)

I bet Because it's Midnight will be a piece of cake compared to Dragonforce's Through the Fire and Flames. :p

[girlychaos]

I played GH Encore Rock the 80's all afternoon....yay!! I thought most of the songs were easier and I liked the whole 80's vibe....but I didn't like that there were no extra outfits for the characters and the band didn't actually wear 80's clothes...just the character we play with...that was kind of boring.

I did love it anyway though. :)

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I also don't like the guy in the game that sings Skid Row's 18 and Life. They should have gotten Sebastian Bach to sing on it. His voice is really good, and has quite a range.

[Lance Lives]

Damn I want to play this but I don't want to drop 50 bucks on it. I'm gonna have to steal it from my friend I guess.

[CanadianFonzie]

I don't know why everyone thinks I'm a god at this game, I know there are people out there better than me, I showed my friends the Encore for the first time, and they were absolutely astounded, I admit I'm good but they act as if I'm one of the best in the world, which is quite unlikely

[girlychaos]

I don't think I'll ever even try to play it on expert mode.... :X

[CanadianFonzie]

I don't think I'll ever even try to play it on easy mode.... :X

[Gringo Loco]

Check this fan made video out.

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[girlychaos]

I don't think I'll ever even try to play it on easy mode.... :X

I won't either.

GL: I'll check that video tomorrow...gotta go now. :)

[CanadianFonzie]

I'm always looking at the fan made video's on youtube, my favourite is "Concerto" by Cacophony, if they had unlockable sings in Encore, I would have wanted that song to be one of them

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Gringo - Yeah, people have uploaded a TON of those Custom vids on Youtube. :) Someone posted Master of Puppets too. I've seen some Dragonforce ones as well.

I think the process of making your own custom songs is pretty lengthy. I know you have to have a modded PS2. I think you have to download something from the internet too.....and you actually have to "create" the notes, I guess. :eek: I personally don't think that it's worth doing.

I STILL can't get over that singer they have on Dio's Holy Diver. I seriously cringe everytime I hear the insanely noticeable pitch problems at the end. :cry:

[girlychaos]

I finally decided to try expert mode yesterday. Results:

!00% score both times I played "Heat Of The Moment"
99% score first (and only) time I played "The Warrior".

I know those are easy songs, but I was like...yay!!! :D

[Special Killa B]

If someone scores 100% on that "One " Song then they are definitely a GH God!!

[MaDMaNMaRz]

If someone scores 100% on that "One " Song then they are definitely a GH God!!

I know, right. The solo on One in that vid looks like a bitch. :eek:

[Gringo Loco]

I know, right. The solo on One in that vid looks like a bitch. :eek:

Hell even the beginning looks hard, if memory serves correct. Although I think they made the custom track harder than it would be irl.

[girlychaos]

I only saw the video now.

I have to say it looks impossible to score 100% on that song! Seriously! :shock:

[Lance Lives]

The track list for Guitar Hero 3 gets me really excited. I guess we'll get to see how hard One really is.

[Gringo Loco]

Well I got this today. This morning as a matter of fact, hehe. So far I like it, but I think maybe GH one or GH2 songs suit me better. The boss battles are interesting. I played on easy mode cuz I'm a GH noob and even the final boss was hard. I didn't beat it, my nephew did, hehe. In the end, I'm glad I bought it. Me and my 2 nephews are jamming out atm.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

What songs do they have, Gringo?

I got the Best Buy catalog today, and for this one, they have a TON of different guitar controllers to choose from. They have a Les Paul shaped ones now, and a strat shaped one.

Also, for anyone that doesn't have either GH or GH2, they are releasing a dual pck for $59.99!

[girlychaos]

I can't wait to get GH3. I've been playing on the "hard" mode for a while now, and sometimes I play "expert", but that depends on the song, lol

[CanadianFonzie]

I'm waiting for stores to get the game itself in stock, cause I'm not spending 35 bucks more on a new guitar...but I played the PS3 version they had on sample at Best Buy, and I don't know if it's because it's a wireless controler but the control's truly sucked on it

[Gringo Loco]

I felt the controls were just the same as Guitar Hero 2 on PS2.

As far as the songs go, here's a list at wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_in_Guitar_Hero_III:_Legends_of_Rock

I didn't know they had a ton of guitars to pick from? Are you sure you don't mean faceplates? I heard they have Korn, Fall Out Boy, Smashing Pumpkins and other faceplates.

[CanadianFonzie]

lol I found out yesterday that they made the guitar version of The Devil Went Down to Georgie, and to me, whats so funny about that is that this past week I heard the song and thought to myself "they should make a guitar version of this for Guitar Hero 3" and look what htey went and did, lol!, and I also really like how they took the concept of the song and used it in the game (a fiddle duel between Johnny and the devil)

[Gringo Loco]

You know what pisses me off? According to Wiki, you can only play certain songs in cooperative mode. :mad: There's only a couple of songs I wanted to play (Sabotage and Suck My Kiss) but I really really want to play them, hehe. I'm still pissed even though I can chuckle. :mad:

[CanadianFonzie]

I hope you can play The Devil Went Down To Georgia in single player mode, though I doubt it

[Gringo Loco]

The Devil Went Down to Georgia is the final song against the devil. (boss level)

[Uncle Hoody]

I am so annoyed that they don't sell spare guitars for the Wii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have to buy another bundle if I want to have an inhouse guitar faceoff with my family.

BAH

Also I went to gamefaqs and got a cheat code and it don't work either b/c of me or the code is wrong. This is my first time on GH though.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I didn't know they had a ton of guitars to pick from? Are you sure you don't mean faceplates? I heard they have Korn, Fall Out Boy, Smashing Pumpkins and other faceplates.

Yeah, they have different Les Paul shaped guitars with different skins. If i'm not mistaken, those are only available for the PS3 and the 360. I know the PS2 has a Strat shaped one now. Other than that, it's the same SG shape. :( I wish they had the Explorer controller for the PS2. I love that guitar! :)
ADDED:
I like the play list. I'm really looking forward to playing Slayer's Reign in Blood!!! :D

Man, I can only imagine Dragonforce on Expert Mode. LOL!

[CanadianFonzie]

I now own Guitar Hero 3, and for the cheapest price I'll ever find it...I love having a cousin-in-law that's the manager of an EB Games:D

[Gringo Loco]

Ok here are some cheats that I found. Please note, I've only tried the unlock all songs cheat so I cannot confirm if they all work.

All songs in Quick Play mode

Press Yellow + Orange, Red + Blue, Red + Orange, Green + Blue, Red + Yellow, Yellow + Orange, Red + Yellow, Red + Blue, [Green + Yellow] two times, [Yellow + Blue] two times, [Yellow + Orange] two times, Yellow + Blue, Yellow, Red, Red + Yellow, Red, Yellow, Orange.

Hyperspeed mode

Press Orange, Blue, Orange, Yellow, Orange, Blue, Orange, Yellow. This code makes the charts faster. There are five Hyperspeed levels. Press Green at the Hyperspeed option on the "Cheats" menu to cycle through them

Precision mode

Press [Green + Red] three times, [Red + Yellow] two times, [Red + Blue] two times, Yellow + Blue, Yellow + Orange, Yellow + Orange, [Green + Red] three times, [Red + Yellow] two times, [Red + Blue] two times, Yellow + Blue, [Yellow + Orange] two times.

Performance mode

Press Red + Yellow, Red + Blue, Red + Orange, Red + Blue, Red + Yellow, Green + Blue, Red + Yellow, Red + Blue.

No fail mode

Press Red + Orange, Blue + Yellow, Orange + Green, [Yellow + Red] three times, Yellow, Red, Blue, Orange, Green, Green + Red, Blue, Green, Orange, [Red + Blue] two times.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I hear there are "Boss Battles" in this. How exactly are they? Is it basically just like in Face Off Mode, but against the computer?

I went to the Best Buy today, and they didn't have it set up on the TV. :( I was hoping to try it out a bit.

[Gringo Loco]

The boss battles, with the exception of the final boss battle, start off with just some note playing, not really much of songs and then progress into a song battle. Instead of star power you get battle power (or w/e it's called, I don't remember) and when you hit a note with a battle icon, you can screw up the boss by using battle power. He can do the same to you and there is one nasty battle power where it turns the buttons backwards. In other words, green is on the far right of the screen followed by red to the left of green and so on.

[Brett H.]

What pissed me off in GH II is that medium was so easy it was pitiful and hard was so hard that it took way too much practice to master the songs. I wish they'd have made a happy medium between, err... medium and hard.

[CanadianFonzie]

man that Lou is a bitch to beat, lol...I still have yet to beat him...Raining Blood was an even bigger bitch to pass, man! lol

[Lance Lives]

Raining Blood is intense, you're right.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I can only imagine playing Raining Blood on Expert Mode. I'm probably going to have to wait until Christmas to get this. :( I'm hoping I can at least try it at Best Buy sometime soon. I really like the tracklist from this one. IMO, it might be the best on this one.

[CanadianFonzie]

I've officially beat every song in the game, yes including the DragonForce song...and ofcourse with me you know I beat them all on expert

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I've officially beat every song in the game, yes including the DragonForce song...and ofcourse with me you know I beat them all on expert

How many times did you have to do it over? I imagine the solos were the biggest pain in the ass ever, haha.

[Gringo Loco]

I've officially beat every song in the game, yes including the DragonForce song...and ofcourse with me you know I beat them all on expert

Nice man. Maybe by the time they come out with GHIV I will be on expert lol. I'm still on medium. ^^;

[CanadianFonzie]

it's not the solo's, it's the intro, that takes a good couple of tries to pass, after that it took me a good 4 tries (not counting the intro attempts, which isn't THAT much more)

[girlychaos]

My uncle got GHIII as a gift to my dad and I played it for a while (with Drop) tonight.

I hate to say it but I'm kinda disappointed! The songs are okay, but I think they tried too hard to make it better, when all that needed to be better was the singing, and that was already accomplished since it's not "covers" anymore. I'm gonna play it again tomorrow, and maybe I'll change my mind...but dunno. I'd pick GHII over this one just like that. I hope it was just a bad first impression though, cause I've been looking forward to it for so long. :(

[Gringo Loco]

I like it, but keep in mind: I own a PS3 and I do not have access to GHII or GHI. I wish I did though. My little nephew was over last week and he brought both GH I and II and we couldn't get them to work. I hope that Red Octane gets the guitar working with the previous games. Something tells me they won't, though.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

My uncle got GHIII as a gift to my dad and I played it for a while (with Drop) tonight.

I hate to say it but I'm kinda disappointed! The songs are okay, but I think they tried too hard to make it better, when all that needed to be better was the singing, and that was already accomplished since it's not "covers" anymore. I'm gonna play it again tomorrow, and maybe I'll change my mind...but dunno. I'd pick GHII over this one just like that. I hope it was just a bad first impression though, cause I've been looking forward to it for so long. :(

They use the original recordings on this one? If so, that's great news for me. :)

The Best Buy close to me STILL doesn't have this to play yet. :mad:

[girlychaos]

They use the original recordings on this one? If so, that's great news for me. :)

The Best Buy close to me STILL doesn't have this to play yet. :mad:

They use the original recordings, yeah...oops, did I spoil it, Mikey? If so, I'm really sorry. I thought everybody knew...but sorry, okay?

It actually reminded me of you talking about the "18 and Life" version on GH Rocks the 80's, lol :lol:

Can't you try and check another one? Best Buy that is...you're still in LA, right?

[MaDMaNMaRz]

No, you didn't spoil it. That's what I wanted to hear! :D Yes, i'm still in LA. The one I go to is real close. I actually haven't seen another one near us.

Ugh, I hate the singer on the GH version of 18 & Life. :cry:

[Gringo Loco]

One thing I hate about the new GH is the singer. He looks like he should be right out of a Gorillaz video. Fugly, comes to mind.

[girlychaos]

No, you didn't spoil it. That's what I wanted to hear! :D Yes, i'm still in LA. The one I go to is real close. I actually haven't seen another one near us.

Ugh, I hate the singer on the GH version of 18 & Life. :cry:

I'm glad I didn't spoil it, and yeah...that singer never did it for me either.


One thing I hate about the new GH is the singer. He looks like he should be right out of a Gorillaz video. Fugly, comes to mind.

Ha! Now that you said it, I have to say you're completely right! lol
You need to check GHI and II btw...I'd pick any of them (even the Rocks the 80's) over the III without even thinking about it.

[CanadianFonzie]

they don't use all original recordings, only about half the songs are

and the singer pisses me off as well

[girlychaos]

they don't use all original recordings, only about half the songs are

and the singer pisses me off as well

Really? The ones I played so far were all originals, but I didn't get to play that much anyway. And to be honest, I'm not really looking forward to.

[Kat]

Only thing I hate about this game is being left handed (and having cross lateral disorder) . Even when I switch it to be left handed, it is still a bitch for me to play.

[Lance Lives]

Lou is a pain in the ass.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Has anyone else attempted Through the Fire and Flames on Expert Mode?

[Sketch Sanchez]

I broke down and bought this game yesterday, unfortunately I had to pluck down full price and get a guitar with it since I stupidly sold GH2 with the guitar because I really needed the money. (grr)

I like the game but is anyone else like me and like part 2 better? I think its the song list, I really enjoyed part 2s music alot more than this one (despite welcome to the jungle being there) and the boss battles are a pain in my ass. I laso think the note placement was much better in the previous game. Casein poiunt would be the Rage against the machine songs that are in both games, while one is a cover the note place ment for the solo was as good as it can be for something so unorthodox, on this one (even though I like the song better and its a master recording) I feel the solo is completely terrible and doesnt even try to match the song.

Maybe I'm just crazy lol

Anyway, I want to play some co-op with any of you that have a 360 so feel free to hit me up. My gamertag is Sketch Sanchez.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

5 stars for Dragonforce on Expert! :eek:

W4M7f4-bhbE

[CanadianFonzie]

Has anyone else attempted Through the Fire and Flames on Expert Mode?

well I already said I beat that song on the 3rd day

[girlychaos]

I like the game but is anyone else like me and like part 2 better?

I actually said it already and I'm so glad I'm not alone on this one! lol
I'll even say I liked the first one and GH Rocks the 80's better than GHIII!

It also seems to me they were more worried about improving things that didn't really need to be improved to begin with.

[CanadianFonzie]

oh but it did need to improve, the hammer-ons and pull-offs are sooooo much better, as well as battle mode

[Lance Lives]

Battle Mode is fun for multiplayer but I really hate it in the Career portion of the game.
And I also love Rocks the 80s. Almost every song on there is at least fun to play which is more than I can say for any of the other entries in the series (I fuckin' hate Radar Love though!).

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I finally got a chance to play Guitar Hero 3 for PS3. My brother recently bought it, and I played it at his apartment. IMO, 3 has the best track list. I loved playing Metallica's One, Slayer's Raining Blood, Iron Maiden's Number of the Beast, and Dragonforce's Through the Fire and Flames.

I think this one is the hardest too. I was having trouble with some songs on Hard Mode. On the other ones, I can play on Hard with ease. Plus, there was still some lag on there. :( I kept trying to fix it, but I couldn't seem to completely get rid of it. Luckily I won't have that problem when I get it for PS2.

[Lance Lives]

Yeah, getting to that last teir of songs on 3 is badass. 'Tallica, Slayer, and Maiden all together...it made me feel alright. Then I went on to suck at Rain in Blood for a few days. *Embarrasing Fact* I still haven't beat Lou on HARD.

[CanadianFonzie]

yup the last section is the best, I love playing every song on that part...except Raining Blood is the hardest song on the game to beat, so I avoid that one, lol, I usually warm up of Cliffs of Dover than go on to play DragonForce

[Lance Lives]

Anybody played Guitar Hero 1 lately? The song list is great but the lack of ability to use Hammer-Ons and Pull-Offs make it really annoying.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Anybody played Guitar Hero 1 lately? The song list is great but the lack of ability to use Hammer-Ons and Pull-Offs make it really annoying.

You can do hammer-ons and pull-offs in the original GH, but they're MUCH harder to do. :( I actually recently played it, and found it to be difficult in some spots. Say you have to do a hammer on from the green to the red...you have to leave your finger on the green button and then press the red while still holding the green.

GH 3 is probably the hardest. Medium Mode in 3 is like playing Hard Mode in 1,2, and the 80's Edition.

[Lance Lives]

I really didn't have any trouble with 3 until I got to the last section, playing on Hard that is. Raining Blood gave me some trouble for a while and then I had a bout or two with One but I beat all of 'em except the battle with Lou.
I got to the battle with the dude from Rage on Expert mode and I stopped. Needless to say I don't have too much trouble really except with the battles.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I actually don't have trouble on Hard Mode either, except for Raining Blood. I can't even imagine playing that on Expert. :eek:

I wonder if anyone has/will ever get 100% for Through the Fire and Flames on Expert. That would be something, lol.

[Lance Lives]

I thought I heard that somebody got 5 stars on it, mighta been here, I can't remember worth a shit. That song is hard as balls though, CanadianFonzie, how much Guitar Hero do you reckon you play, 'cause you seem to have the shit down.

[CanadianFonzie]

well I've said this before, but the first time I ever played Guitar Hero, about a year and a half ago, I played More Than a Feeling and Iron Man on expert and beat them...mind you I also tried You've Got Another Thing Comin' and Bark At the Moon and couldn't pass those at the time, but my point is I was kind of gifted from the start of the game...I always assumed it was because of my 30+ years of playing actual guitar

[Lance Lives]

Yeah my best friend is really good at real guitar, which some years under his belt (not 30 plus, but nothing to sneeze at either) and he's pretty good at this game too. Picked it up right away.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I do really think if you actually play guitar, that it helps. When I first played GH, I was pretty good right at the start. As far as dexterity, it does help actually knowing how to play guitar.

[zach82]

I just picked up GHIII and I noticed how much better the hammer ons/pull offs were immediately. The control response just seems smoother in general. Pretty decent song selection too, and the battles were a big plus, this was definetly a good installment for the series. The last set list is hard too... probably the most challenging of anything they've done yet.

I learned how to play "Number of the Beast" for real faster than it's taken me to finish it in the game. Kinda funny how Slash and Morello talk about that in the interviews too.

[girlychaos]

GH 3 is probably the hardest. Medium Mode in 3 is like playing Hard Mode in 1,2, and the 80's Edition.

I agree. And, the 80's Edition, to me always seemed to be way easier than all the others; the Expert Mode is not that tough (IMO, that is).

[zach82]

I agree, GH I was by far the easiest, the only really challenging songs on it were Bark at the Moon and Cowboys From Hell, even on expert. GH II's Hard mode was much more difficult than expert in I, and now III's Hard mode is about as difficult as Expert in II.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

The original GH is easy, but doing hammer ons and pull offs are much harder, so I usually have to strum the notes. Other than that, the songs are pretty easy IMO.

I like the Les Paul controller, but I find it difficult to use when sitting down. It's like trying to play an actual V shaped guitar sitting down, lol. I find the SG controller to be more comfortable to use. I think I saw that there was a Strat shaped one too. But I haven't seen it in stores yet.

Which version are you guys playing? I played the PS3 version. I asked for it for Christmas, but since I don't have a PS3, i'm going to get the PS2 version. Are there any differences in any of the versions that you know of?

[zach82]

I hardly ever do hammer ons or pull offs either, if I don't strum every note I tend to mess up my timing.

I have the PS2 version of GHI, II, and III. I don't have the 80s Encore yet.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I hardly ever do hammer ons or pull offs either, if I don't strum every note I tend to mess up my timing.

I have the PS2 version of GHI, II, and III. I don't have the 80s Encore yet.

When I started playing GH2, I started doing hammer ons and pull offs more. I'm glad they made them easier to do.

The 80's Edition is pretty good, but it is basically an expansion pack at full price. It still goes for $49.99, if i'm not mistaken. I'd say to wait until it drops in price, or get a used copy.

[zach82]

Yeah, that's what I'm waiting for, I waited for the price on I to drop down to 29 before I got it.

[CanadianFonzie]

I sometimes do hammer-ons to show off to myself, like on The Devil Went Down to Georgia during that middle part before the second solo starts...but on average I pick 'em...it's funny how hard Bark At the Moon used to be, yet now playing it it is so easy cause I'm so much more skilled...plus if they had that on GHIII, with all the advancements, it would be equivelant to maybe Hangar 18 on GHII...which is funny, lol

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I wished they would've put a Pantera song on GH3. Cemetery Gates would've been a good song to have on there. :)

[Lance Lives]

Or Floods, that would be awesome, though not too challenging until the end.
I have the PS2 versions of all of them. Yeah, it really sucked having to pay full price for Rock the 80s but it's still pretty damn fun so I guess it was worth it.

[zach82]

I didn't actually find Hangar 18 to be that hard... the shittiest song for me on GHII was "Carry Me Home." It took me forever to finish that bastard in Hard and Expert; that intro still kills me.

[girlychaos]

Yeah, it really sucked having to pay full price for Rock the 80s but it's still pretty damn fun so I guess it was worth it.

I love GHI and GHII, but the one I have more fun playing is definitely Rock the 80's. lol

[Lance Lives]

I've been playing the older ones because I got pissed off at 3's battle modes and I must say that part 2's bonus songs are badass. I mean, I already thought that anyway, but I've been reassured by playing them just recently. Thunderhorse owns!

[zach82]

Agreed, although I like GHI's song selection best overall, 2 has the best bonus tracks. They all have some awesome tracks though. Whoever is in control of song selection for the series does a really kickass job of picking good songs.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I've been playing the older ones because I got pissed off at 3's battle modes and I must say that part 2's bonus songs are badass. I mean, I already thought that anyway, but I've been reassured by playing them just recently. Thunderhorse owns!

Lately, i've only been playing GH2. But when I get 3, i'll be playing that non stop. :D

Thunderhorse jams, bro. I actually prefer the GH version over the one on the Dethklok CD, to be honest. It sounds a LITTLE different on the CD. The other bonus songs are good too....Shadows Fall, All That Remains, Buckethead. I can't remember the name of the song or band, but I also like that real slow, doom song. The guitars are tuned real low....sounds like Bb or A.

[Lance Lives]

Yeah that doom song rocks to play a few times but that's about it. I agree that Thunderhorse is different on the disc, but I still like it. I think the disc version is a little bit longer, I guess they fleshed it out a bit but it seems weird after hearing the GH2 version so much.

[CanadianFonzie]

I tried playing part 2 last night again, and I just couldn't do it...I'm afraid to try the first one again, I can only play Gutiar Hero 3 and be really good now, cause I'm too custom to the changes now, lol
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I didn't actually find Hangar 18 to be that hard... the shittiest song for me on GHII was "Carry Me Home." It took me forever to finish that bastard in Hard and Expert; that intro still kills me.

I enjoyed playing that song, the worst song to me is John the Fisherman

[Lance Lives]

That's the worst song you think, or your hardest? I like that song (Primus rules...I actually prefer this version over the album version) and think it's pretty fun to play.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Yeah, that Primus song is pretty cool. It's fun to play, I agree.

I also like playing Institutionalized, by Suicidal Tendencies. That song is pretty hard on Expert Mode. I've always been a fan of Suicidal Tendencies. :)

[Lance Lives]

Oh man, that ST song is so hard. I don't really like them either so it was always a sore spot in my Guitar Hero career.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I've only beaten it on Expert Mode once. It's such a difficult song.

That Reverend Horton Heat song is a bitch too. That one took me a while to complete even on Hard. :(

[Lance Lives]

I agree, there were quite a few cussing fits associated with that RHH song.

[zach82]

Yeah, you know what the kicker about "Psychobilly Freakout" is? They made that song way harder than it actually is by adding more solos and flourishes than there are on the original studio recording. ;)

"John the Fisherman" is one of my favorite songs, so I was glad to see it make it onto the game.

[Sketch Sanchez]

I got rid of this game (but kept the guitar) and got Rock Band, it's just a much better game with a better song list.

Also medium doesnt make me want to pull my hair out.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I agree, there were quite a few cussing fits associated with that RHH song.

Ahahaha!!!! Sounds like me. :lol:

[Just Jeans]

Best Friend left his PS3 here tonight with both Rock Band and Guitar Hero III. I had a good time playing Rock Band. I'm decent on the guitar on both Easy and Medium on the lower level songs, which I'm proud about because I've never played before tonight.

[The Dream Master]

I finally played a bit of Rock Band in my local Wal-Mart yesterday, and it was a blast. I think my brother is asking for it for Christmas, so I might be playing it more in the future.

[CanadianFonzie]

can Rock Band be played as one player? or does it have to have more than one player playing it

[Just Jeans]

You can play it on your own. Last night, Adam and I played it together for a long time -- he on vocals, me on guitar -- but after he left I spent about an hour just playing guitar on my own. You can play any instrument you want on your own -- drums, lead guitar, bass guitar, or sing.

[CanadianFonzie]

good, cause I find Rock Band to have a MUCH better set than any Guitar Hero...BON JOVI! lol

[Jason's Storm]

Has anyone else bought it for Wii, only to sell it?

~JS

[Just Jeans]

I played Rock Band for several hours last night. I played through 30 songs in one sitting. I'm hardcore.
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I'm currently playing Guitar Hero III. I've noticed it has quite a few of the same songs on it that are in Rock Band.

Anyhow, the reason I stopped and popped in here is because I've just got my first 100% notes hit on a song. It's Paranoid by Black Sabbath. 264 notes hit, for 100% completion. Sure, I'm on easy, but I'm proud of that. I though for sure the solo would get me, but I made it through unscathed.

[girlychaos]

I still remember when I got my first 100% notes hit on Expert Mode. The song was "The Warrior" (GH Rocks the 80's)...I know it's an easy song, but I was so happy with my 100% score. :D

[Just Jeans]

Guitar Hero III is harder than Rock Band even on Easy. However, I'm getting better. I reckon I'll play through the whole of easy, then go through medium, et cetera. Given that this is only my third time having ever played the game, I think I'm doing alright. :)

Oh, on Rock Band, Adam has downloaded a bunch of songs. One of them is a Metallica song that listed with a group of songs called "Impossible". Apparently, they're damn near impossible to beat in Expert mode. I managed to make it through the song with a three and a half star rating on Easy. So I guess I'm okay.

[The Dream Master]

Having only played Rock Band once, I got the feeling that it was a lot easier than the Guitar Hero series. I almost got a 100% rating on the first song I played on Rock Band (on medium).

[Lance Lives]

What Metallica songs do they have for download Jeans? I was wondering how long it would be before this became the Rock Band thread too. I want that game so bad, just to play the drums, that looks the funnest. I don't think I'm gonna be doing too much singing. I'm just wary to get it when I actually get the money because I hear it's having a lot of problems with the guitar controller and there's question of how well the drums will hold up. I personally think it sucks that there is some of the same songs on Rock Band as there are on III.

[Zarcone]

Raining Blood is the only thing holding me back from
dueling against Lou on Expert...

[Sketch Sanchez]

Theres And Justice for all, Ride the Lightning and something else I'm forgetting.

You can also play and sing at the same time which I do, its fun and challenging. My faves to do that with a (Dont fear)the reaper and My SHarona.

[Just Jeans]

Having only played Rock Band once, I got the feeling that it was a lot easier than the Guitar Hero series. I almost got a 100% rating on the first song I played on Rock Band (on medium).

In general, Rock Band is a lot easier than Guitar Hero III. I just tried doing some songs on medium on Guitar Hero III, and there's no way. They'll eat me alive. Too many blue buttons showing up too fast, and I have yet to acclimate my pinky to playing.

Rock Band, on the other hand, I tend to have a fighting chance. Although the songs listed under Impossible are brutal. I tried playing that Metallica song on Medium, and I got flat out pwned before the lyrics even started.

What Metallica songs do they have for download Jeans?

I couldn't tell you without looking. Next time I boot it up, I'll write them down.

I want that game so bad, just to play the drums, that looks the funnest.

They're a lot harder than they look. I used to drum as a hobby, and even I was having trouble with them. They sit at an awkward height, and the pads are arranged in a fashion that throws me off kilter. I can hardly keep up with the drum track on Easy. It'll take me a lot of practice for those, I think.

I'm just wary to get it when I actually get the money because I hear it's having a lot of problems with the guitar controller...

Apparently, it's a defect EA is addressing. If your controller ends up bunk, they'll replace/repair it for free. But they're also supposed to be dealing with the design flaw so that not a lot of other people will get them (it has to do with a loose screw on the strum bar, and it's a problem Adam's guitar is already having, which is why I switched over to Guitar Hero III).

I personally think it sucks that there is some of the same songs on Rock Band as there are on III.

I was talking to Adam after I made that post, and he said that there are only six songs from Guitar Hero III on Rock Band, and he thinks a couple of them were downloadable for Rock Band rather than on the disc.

You can also play and sing at the same time which I do, its fun and challenging. My faves to do that with a (Dont fear)the reaper and My SHarona.

I thought about trying that, but the only microphone we've got is one you have to hold. If I had a mic stand or a headset mic, I'd give it a go.

[The Dream Master]

In general, Rock Band is a lot easier than Guitar Hero III. I just tried doing some songs on medium on Guitar Hero III, and there's no way. They'll eat me alive. Too many blue buttons showing up too fast, and I have yet to acclimate my pinky to playing.


Yeah, that takes a bit of practice. I'm pretty good at the medium setting on GH, but I don't know that I'll ever get to go any higher simply because I don't play it on a regular basis. Well, that and I suck when that orange button comes into play. :misery:

[Zarcone]

yeah the 3rd one is incredibly hard compared to the other two, and from what ive heard about rock band, it looks fun

[Lance Lives]

I'm glad that Guitar Hero 3 is as hard as it is, because it gives you something to strive for. If you've been playing since the first one, you don't want each one you buy to be as easy as the last or you'll end up with no replay value. If I had to guess, if they make a Rock Band 2 I'd say it'll be considerably harder than what you guys are saying the first one is.

[CanadianFonzie]

I don't find Guitar Hero 3 to be hard compared to when I play the previous Guitar Hero games now...because of the advancements that I'm so used to, I really can't play the first 2 Guitar Hero games very good any more

[Lance Lives]

I bet it would be fun as crap to play ...And Justice for All. Is it the full 10 minute song? I don't reckon I'll ever be able to play it unless at somebody else's place.

[CanadianFonzie]

yes it's the whole song, I watched on youtube someone playing it on drums, as well as some other people playing different songs on drums, and it looks like some pretty awsome shit...the guitar stuff looks fucked though, the notes are squares now instead of circles, and I don't know how to tell if it's a hammer-on

[Zarcone]

ahh, i wanna play rockband so bad... my friend has it back at home so might mooch constantly when i get back

[Just Jeans]

The notes for guitar on Rock Band actually stand out a lot better than in Guitar Hero III. The background they're on is also sort of translucent, so I don't end up getting dizzy after sitting and playing five or six songs in a row.

[CanadianFonzie]

but still, how can you tell when it's a hammer-on now? watching those videos on youtube I couldn't tell

[Just Jeans]

I don't even know what that means, Fonize. you're going to have to explain it to me.

If you mean how do you know when notes will fill up your "power up" bar, the notes are white rather than the color of the button that needs to be compressed. Hit all the white notes consecutively, and they power you up.

The game also provides you with a serious of distortions, so when you lift the guitar up and it starts draining your power, you can change how the guitar sounds.

[Sketch Sanchez]

but still, how can you tell when it's a hammer-on now? watching those videos on youtube I couldn't tell

I know what he means Jeans.

The hammer-on and notes are smaller than the regular notes, thats how you can tell. Basically:

[=====] Reg note
[===] hammer on or pull off

I think they're easier. To be perfectly honest, I couldnt tell when I could do it from the notes in GH-I didnt even think it was possible. I always figured that when it wouldnt come out that I was just doing it wrong or I had just fucked up. I never knew there were differences in the notes for GH, but with Rock Band it was obvious from the get go some notes were smaller

[CanadianFonzie]

I used to have trouble with gh and gh 2 with hammer-ons than I got used to it, but gh 3's hammer-ons are very much clearer...now I gotta get used to a whole new look for the hammer-ons to get used to, man, lol

[Lance Lives]

How do you tell on Guitar Hero Fonz? Just when they're really close?

I saw some kids on Attack of the Show playing the other day. They played Pride and Joy on Expert, one kid got 99% and one got 98%...the winner got a new car. Anybody here that could match that? You coulda had a car!

[Just Jeans]

Please, someone -- explain to me what a hammer-on is. I played Rock Band for hours and I have no idea what you're talking about.

[Sketch Sanchez]

I'll try, but go to the freakin hard tutorial in ROck Band, they explain it really well.

imagine this is the rock band screen and you'll sometimes see something like this:

[==]
[====]
[====]
[====]

THat little one is an indication to do a hammer on, which basically means you can play the note without actually strumming the guitar. So lets say theres three green notes and then one little yellow note. THat means you strum three times on green, then you just press yellow with your finger and it'll play the note without strumming.
ADDED:
Oh and I love that we get new songs every week. I just bought Buddy Holly by Weezer, I'm marking out.
ADDED:
Oh and def try the tutorials, learning hammer-ons and picking" makes everything so much easier. I got my best friend into these games after he did nothing but talk shit about them-i made him play the tutorials and he's already better at the game. Even if you cant pull off the tricks, just knowing about them helps.

[Lance Lives]

DUDE! Buddy Holly? I'm envious.

[Just Jeans]

Activision says "Fuck you Rock Band players, you're not using our guitars." (http://www.chud.com/index.php?type=mastercontrol&id=13029)

Rock Band hit a major snag when it was released for the PS3. The major selling point of the game, the 4-player band mode, was not playable... unless you knew someone else who bought the 170 buck bundle. See, the set only comes with one guitar, one drum set and one mic. The game's developer (Harmonix, the guys who made Guitar Hero 1 and 2 before jumping ship to EA and Rock Band) realized that most everyone in the free world owns a Guitar Hero guitar to play with, and would just be able to use one of those for the other guitarist in the band. It was smart, and kept the price down on the box set.

The Xbox 360 version worked perfectly (unless your instruments broke) but the PS3 has a huge flaw. Seems that even though it was promised to gamers before, the PS3 Guitar Hero 3 guitar wasn't compatible with the game.

This left a problem for most people who had sunk money into Guitar Hero for the system, as they now had no way to play with a full band. That's right, there are no other guitars available to purchase separately for Rock Band, so gamers were assed out when it came to playing with a 4-piece.

Sony and Harmonix got quick to work making a patch to make the guitar compatible, and it was just about to be released to gamers when Guitar Hero's publisher (Activision) stepped in and complained, effectively blocking it from being released.

Over the last couple of weeks press releases have been flying back and forth from both camps, each blaming the other side, but one thing was obvious- Activision wasn't about to let their competitor use their guitars. Unless they paid up.

It was hinted at that money was the problem but never outright said, but that all changed today with an article from The Boston Globe.

"Unfortunately for Rock Band users, Harmonix has been unwilling to discuss an agreement that will allow us to provide that option in a manner that maintains the high standards people have come to expect from Activision," [Activision spokeswoman Maryanne] Lataif said. "We believe we should be compensated for the use of our technology,"

Know what? Fuck you. You're disillusioning your customers and outright fucking them over. You know there's room for both games to compete here, and you're being assholes about it. I won't even harp on the fact that if weren't for Harmonix, Activision wouldn't even have a hit series on their hands. But then again maybe that's what it is... some latent jealousy.

Look, I know it isn't something they have to allow. It's isn't going to help them, especially since their product is inferior to the other game. But it's no money out of their pocket.. the patch is done and could be implemented immediately. And if anything, it allows people to buy more guitars from them, especially since the Rock Band guitars have been acting up and most people prefer the old clicky feeling (I sure do).

This is nothing more than pure money hungry bullshit, and I'd suggest to anyone considering picking up Guitar Hero 3 for the PS3 to reconsider it. All the people that I know who bought the game for PS3 did so only in anticipation of using it for Rock Band when it came out. They wouldn't have sunk a hundred fucking dollars (the prices for these have gotten out of control, but that's for another rant) for it when they could've simply bought the disc for the PS2 for 50 bucks.

It's a scummy thing, through and through, and I hope enough customers complain to them to break them down.

The above nonsense is the reason Adam and I can't play Rock Band with both a bass guitar and a regular guitar at the same time -- the Guitar Hero III guitar was supposed to be compatible with Rock Band, and is on the 360, but we of the PS3 variety got fucked.

[zach82]

Man, that is sucky... especially since the GH series guitars aren't cheap anyway.

Hopefully they come out with independent instruments for Rock Band soon to help remedy the problem since the people at Activision are being asses about letting out a patch to fix it.

[CanadianFonzie]

You know there's room for both games to compete here, and you're being assholes about it. I won't even harp on the fact that if weren't for Harmonix, Activision wouldn't even have a hit series on their hands. But then again maybe that's what it is... some latent jealousy.

couldn't have said it any better myself

[Lance Lives]

I still can't beat Lou. I guess it's because I get so mad and turn the system off and don't keep trying. I'll do it one day though, damn it.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I've been wanting to try Rock Band for awhile now. I heard the song selection isn't that great. I'm curious to try the drums on it. I heard on the harder levels, you're basically playing them like you'd play a regular drum set.

[Lance Lives]

I've heard that too Madman, I really want to see if I'd have the chops to take on the harder levels playing the drums. I really don't think I'd ever do the whole singing thing, but if it's like Singstar, my friend said you can just say other words as long as you do it at the right time and it'll accept it. So that's possibly funny.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

LOL! I definitely wouldn't be doing the vocals. I can't sing for shit, haha.

I actually used to play drums for a short period. I was using my brothers kit. I actually was pretty decent, but now I couldn't play if my life depended on it. I'm really interested in trying it out on Rock Band.

I wonder if there is any store that would have the whole thing set up to use? That'd be pretty cool.

[Lance Lives]

I know the several Wal-Marts that I frequent all had the drum kit and guitar set up for demo in the Christmas section but it usually had a out of order sign on it, and now the Wal-Mart I go to the most doesn't have it at all. I remember one Game Stop I go to had it set up, so maybe you can make it to that.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Sweet! There's a Super Wal-Mart only a minute from my house. I'll have to look there.

I'm loving GH3. So far, i'd say this one is the best IMO. The tracklist is great. Right now, i'm only up to the Japan level. I completed the Slipknot and Disturbed songs a few minutes ago, but my dinner was ready, so I had to stop. I'm going to open the rest of the songs after.

I bought all of the bonus songs already. How come Dragonforce wasn't on the list to buy? Do you automatically get it when you complete Career Mode?

I also think it's cool that they have a Co-Op Career Mode.

[Lance Lives]

Yeah, when you beat the last song, you play Dragonforce as the credits roll. I also believe that when you play Co-op mode you get more songs because my friends have songs unlocked that I don't have, like the Beastie Boys song, and I don't know how else to get 'em.

[CanadianFonzie]

yah co-op career gives you more songs, which pisses me off, cause now I can't play Blue Oyster Cult

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I unlocked Dragonforce yesterday. :) My brother is staying at my house until the 7th, so we'll have to play Co-op Career Mode to unlock those other ones. We were playing Battle Mode quite a while yesterday. That version is really fun. I like it alot.

I actually find Dragonforce to be hard on Medium Mode. I can beat it, but I make quite a few little mistakes. I won't even attempt Hard or Expert Mode for a little bit.

[CanadianFonzie]

it's funny, cause I've never played DragonForce on anything but expert:p

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I tried it on Hard Mode, and both times I only completed about 10% of the song. :lol: It'll be awhile before I can complete it.

Which controllers did you guys get? My mom bought the one with the Kramer Strat shaped controller. That one is cool. The body is pretty similiar to an Ibanez RG, so I love it. I'm a big Ibanez fan.

[CanadianFonzie]

I still use the classic Guitar Hero one, lol

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I like the new ones, because they're wireless. I also like how they made the buttons black, but highlighted the edges of the colors they use.

[Lance Lives]

Yeah, I still just use the red SG from part 2. I have played with some of the un-official controllers out there and I really hated 'em. Seemed like the buttons were further apart.

[zach82]

I noticed the same thing about the aftermarket controls... one of my friends has one that looks like a Jackson and the buttons are much farther apart on it than they are on the standard SG clone controls.

[Lance Lives]

Yeah, it really threw me off when I was playing with my girlfriend's little brother's controller. I have played with one of the official Kramer controllers in Game Stop though and I thought it was nice...If I had to buy a new one I'd get that one.

[CanadianFonzie]

I played with the wireless Xplorer controller for PS2, and to me it was off, I mean hitting notes on the controller took longer than it should have to take effect on the game, I'd have to hit a note a second or 2 in advance for the note to actually hit

[zach82]

Sounds like the lag calibration wasn't adjusted, that can make a huge difference in gameplay.

[CanadianFonzie]

well it's all in the past, sure I made an embarrasment of myself but I redeemed myself early in the month for being the best GH player in town, lol

[Zarcone]

i honestly still prefer the 1st gen guitar for GH1, i feel so comfortable with it. i used the explorer controller for 360 and didnt like it at all, and the newest guitar for GHIII is weird... it feels like the strum button is loud as hell

[CanadianFonzie]

actually my guitar is so old that it squeeks when I strum, lol

[zach82]

Mine does too, it actually started it not long after I bought it and just keeps getting worse.

Reminds me of my bass, there's no finish left on the back of it where it rubs my belt because I used to play it so much. I'm lucky if I pick it up once a week now. :|

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I played Dragonforce on Expert in the Training Mode. I hit 65% of the notes. DAMN, that was really hard. I'm surprised I even got a 47 note streak. The most I ever got on a song was a 737 note streak.
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I played with the wireless Xplorer controller for PS2, and to me it was off, I mean hitting notes on the controller took longer than it should have to take effect on the game, I'd have to hit a note a second or 2 in advance for the note to actually hit

Are you playing it on a HD Television? With HD TV's you have to calibrate the lag. When I played the PS3 version at my brothers house, we had that problem. I don't have that problem with the PS2 wireless controller.

[CanadianFonzie]

actually the game was being played through a projector from a laptop, quite the interesting piece of technology

[Kat]

In my hometown they are having a tourney for this game and the grand prize is a Les Paul guitar and $2000. I wish I didn't suck so I could win those prizes :D

[CanadianFonzie]

MAN that would be great to have here so that I could win it

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Guitar Hero tourneys? LOL! That's awesome.

[Lance Lives]

Yeah I mentioned earlier that I saw a tourney on Attack of the Show where the kid got a new car (a really nice sports type car, I don't know the difference in them). He hit 99% of the notes of Pride and Joy on Expert.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Damn! That's pretty cool.

I haven't tried Pride and Joy on Expert yet. I do pretty good at it on Hard Mode, so i'll give it a shot the next time.

I still haven't even attempted Raining Blood or One on Expert. I'm not quite ready yet, haha.

[CanadianFonzie]

looks like I gotta sharpen up on Pride and Joy, lol, now 99% on a song like Cliffs of Dover...that's what I'm going for

[MaDMaNMaRz]

Cliffs of Dover is a bitch on Expert! I do fairly good on Hard Mode. I only completed about 10% of it on Expert. :( I'll have to go into Training Mode for that one.

Fonz, what's the highest % you got for Through the Fire and Flames?

[CanadianFonzie]

88% notes hit, those I only hit that once, my average is 87% notes hit, as usual I never keep track of the score

Cliffs of Dover is great fun to play, it's the song I play to warm up every time I turn on the game, unless I'm in a rush or something

[Lance Lives]

I was playing the game through on Expert the other day. I got to the Tenacious D song and couldn't beat it. Need to give it another try.

[CanadianFonzie]

alot of people I know find that riff to be hard, but it's simple to me because the way everyone plays it is so complicated to do...though I'm worried if I try to explain it it will not be understandable, lol

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I haven't tried Tenacious D on Expert. I imagine it involves doing alot of hammer-ons and pull-offs. Whenever I watch people in Best Buy, they always strum notes that don't have to be.

I find Battle Mode to be really fun. I was playing that with my brother a few days ago. I'm glad they have that as a Multiplayer game as well.

[CanadianFonzie]

lol every time I play 2 player battle mode I beat the person before the song even starts

[MaDMaNMaRz]

LOL! My brother got angry the first couple of times, because I beat him really quick. But he quickly caught on. A few times we went into Sudden Death.

[CanadianFonzie]

what is that like? I've never made it that far

[MaDMaNMaRz]

All of the power ups are "Sudden Death" icons. Basically whoever uses more wins. When you use it, the Sudden death skull appears and slowly drags down the opponents side of the screen. When it reaches the bottom, that player loses.

[CanadianFonzie]

I have (purposely) gone far into the Tom Morello and Slash battles to see what happens and they all of a sudden start sucking the life out of me, is it similar to that?

[Uncle Hoody]

I had to call someone yesterday for work, a total stranger.

I could hear "Talk Dirty To Me" in the background. I could not help myself.

"Ma'am, are you guys playing Guitar Hero 3?"


everyone, her and my coworkers, fell over laughing.

[CanadianFonzie]

HAHAHA and I just fell over laughing too

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I have (purposely) gone far into the Tom Morello and Slash battles to see what happens and they all of a sudden start sucking the life out of me, is it similar to that?

Yep, that's it. Once you get the Sudden Death icons, you have to use them.

[DrLar]

Any hope of having some Pink Floyd tunes in the game? that'll make me buy it...

The songs should be on extreme expert of something..

[CanadianFonzie]

Pink Floyd on expert? you're joking right?

[MaDMaNMaRz]

That'd be cool if they put a Pink Floyd song for the next GH.

I love all of the "hit" songs by Black Sabbath. But for the next GH, I hope they put a song like Symptom of the Universe, Hole in the Sky, or Into the Void on there. :)

I think it'd be cool if they put a death metal song on the next one. Or even a black metal song. That would kick serious ass! :D

[Lance Lives]

It would rule if they put Hammer Smashed Face on the next one, seeing as how that's like the Death Metal song everybody knows. It would be nice if they put some Mastodon on there, as it would be fun and challenging.

[CanadianFonzie]

I want one of my prefered Sabbath songs on the next GH, Neon Knights and Mob Rules are perfect pics, though there are better guitar tracks from those albums those 2 are the more popular choices

[Lance Lives]

I'd love to see more solo Ozzy. They could go with Dio-era Sabbath and give another Ozzy solo era song. I'd love to see Mr. Crowley.

[zach82]

I was hoping for a Randy Rhoads era Ozzy song too, unfortunately we haven't seen that yet.

"Over the Mountain" would absofuckinglutely rock.

[CanadianFonzie]

why not Night Ranger's (You Can Still) Rock In America...that came to mind because Brad Gillis, their guitarist, played for Ozzy for that live album Speak of the Devil, and as a guitarist he's amung the top three for me that Ozzy ever had

[Slice]

It would rule if they put Hammer Smashed Face on the next one, seeing as how that's like the Death Metal song everybody knows. It would be nice if they put some Mastodon on there, as it would be fun and challenging.
There is a downloadable track by Mastodon. It's "Sleeping Giant" from the album Blood Mountain.