Avatar/Wildstorm Friday, Nightmare, Chainsaw Comics

[Rich]

Well, I own all the Avatar and almost all the Wildstorm Friday comics. The only Wildstorm comic I don't own is the first issue. :pull:

I am not crazy over the Nightmare or Chainsaw comics. I think those stories are weak.

The new Pamela story was...well...it was okay. It was too typical of a story though. I was excpecting something a little more creative coming from the guys who brought us the awesome Friday comics.

[sickboy]

Well I got the first few chainsaw ones from WS, and I got the 6 issue run + pamela issue of Friday, ad the first 7 Freddy ones.

I also picked up some of the avatar freddy's but didn;t enjoy them.

[Killa Pimp]

I just read this today.

My thoughts are as such:

PROS:

I have mixed emotions on how the writer tied it into the very first scene of the first movie. Good stuff in some areas, Blah in others.

The book itself was very,very character driven, except for one major character, but I guess this is why its called Pamela's Story, and I will get into that later, which is a blessing from the 2 minute set ups of characters from the films before they die. I Also feel this way
about the AVATAR line for F13, Like MTV, all flash, some substance. Great artwork though.

The murder of Elias was especially gruesome :)

The art work was gritty, fitting the tone and style of the story.

Cons:

We basically know how its going to end, Annie dies. I wish they would have set this in a chronological time line instead of the "Lost" flashback.
They only have a limited space (22 pages) to tell Pam and Jason's story, even though we already know how that's going to turn out, also ANNIE MUST DIE, granted they can do that in a single panel,I just feel it takes away from the overall story and the ability to get into those characters further with only one issue left to tell it.

I also absolutely hate how they used Elias in this: Its like they just put him in there to die in 4 pages like a stoner or a couple that had the dreaded "sex" in a Friday film, I just feel they wasted a real opportunity to explore a mythos we really have never seen in a Friday film. He says like 5 things, that added to what the writer was trying to get across, but it really didn't add anything to the overall mythos for me. I guess each creator has their own take on the series, but I didn't prefer this one at all. Plus, when he first shows up , he looked like as big and blubbery as a whale and in the next pane, he's built like Batista in the WWE .

The haunted house??? really didn't do anything for me either.

I also disliked Jason talking to Pam from the womb. It felt Schizophrenic almost. Yes, I know she was crazy as hell anyway, but I always felt it was what happened to Jason that pushed her over the edge. Even though it does tie into the first movie with Pam talking in the young boys voice at the end of the movie, It just felt out of place

Too sum it all up, I give it decent Grade. 3.5 out of 5. I wish they could have made this a 6 issue like the previous one. It was great being reintroduced to characters from the first movie. I just wish they had more issues to tell Pamela's Story.

One more thing: I detested what they did with the Elias character, but that's a personal pet peeve. Its still a decent read.

Go buy the book, maybe New Line will get the message and put another flick out there.:p (Wishful thinking!!)

[CampNewBlood]

I just bought the Pamela's Tale comic off of eBay. I am wanting to get all of the comics dealing with Friday the 13th.

[JVY2K]

I just read this today.

My thoughts are as such:

PROS:

I have mixed emotions on how the writer tied it into the very first scene of the first movie. Good stuff in some areas, Blah in others.

The book itself was very,very character driven, except for one major character, but I guess this is why its called Pamela's Story, and I will get into that later, which is a blessing from the 2 minute set ups of characters from the films before they die. I Also feel this way
about the AVATAR line for F13, Like MTV, all flash, some substance. Great artwork though.

The murder of Elias was especially gruesome :)

The art work was gritty, fitting the tone and style of the story.

Cons:

We basically know how its going to end, Annie dies. I wish they would have set this in a chronological time line instead of the "Lost" flashback.
They only have a limited space (22 pages) to tell Pam and Jason's story, even though we already know how that's going to turn out, also ANNIE MUST DIE, granted they can do that in a single panel,I just feel it takes away from the overall story and the ability to get into those characters further with only one issue left to tell it.

I also absolutely hate how they used Elias in this: Its like they just put him in there to die in 4 pages like a stoner or a couple that had the dreaded "sex" in a Friday film, I just feel they wasted a real opportunity to explore a mythos we really have never seen in a Friday film. He says like 5 things, that added to what the writer was trying to get across, but it really didn't add anything to the overall mythos for me. I guess each creator has their own take on the series, but I didn't prefer this one at all. Plus, when he first shows up , he looked like as big and blubbery as a whale and in the next pane, he's built like Batista in the WWE .

The haunted house??? really didn't do anything for me either.

I also disliked Jason talking to Pam from the womb. It felt Schizophrenic almost. Yes, I know she was crazy as hell anyway, but I always felt it was what happened to Jason that pushed her over the edge. Even though it does tie into the first movie with Pam talking in the young boys voice at the end of the movie, It just felt out of place

Too sum it all up, I give it decent Grade. 3.5 out of 5. I wish they could have made this a 6 issue like the previous one. It was great being reintroduced to characters from the first movie. I just wish they had more issues to tell Pamela's Story.

One more thing: I detested what they did with the Elias character, but that's a personal pet peeve. Its still a decent read.

Go buy the book, maybe New Line will get the message and put another flick out there.:p (Wishful thinking!!)

Sounds like allot of wasted matrerial to me. Here we have a great backstory that fans have been dying to explore and they deliver a story like that? Fuckin' sad...Kill Elias off in four pages? Lame. And you're right, it was Jason's murder that drove Pamela insane. That's the way I've always viewed it. I've never given a second thought to whether or not she was previously insane. What a waste. Ugh!

My Pamela/Elias backstory prequel script is far superior to what this piece of shit sounds like!

[CampNewBlood]

I got the Pamela's take in the mail today and read it. I liked it. It may have been a little predictable, but it was cool none-the-less.

[Sketch Sanchez]

You guys gotta remember, to you guys Elias may be somewhat important but in reality he's isnt even a character. Just a deleted scene from a script at best, nothing is said about him except that he's Jasons dad. THats it, he could be anybody, really. The writers decided that Elias wasnt important enough to Pamela or Jasons story aside from her first kill. You guys do. Simple as that.

That being said, I didnt think this was all that. I like Andyenko as a writer (Manhunter rocks) but this left me cold. Bring Palmiotti and Gray back!

[sickboy]

Palmiotti spent 6 issues building up a decent story and suspense just for a simple sequel-like addon to the series.

Pamela's Tale is two issues to tell the history of Jason. Someone needs their fucking head examined. I mean, seriously, why the hell not do a 6 issue seres on Jason's history? Give it the same love and attention?

And while I'm ranting, Baby Jason looked deformed, not in a medical way, but in a 'artist-can't-draw-for-shit' way

[Sketch Sanchez]

It's probably because sales continually went down for the first mini. Imagine, starts out at....13 thou? loses about a thousand per ish? Maybe more? That aint pretty. With 2 issues, it doesnt look so bad, cuz it's gonna lose readers, all books lose readers.

I enjoyed the hell out of that story, but if 2-3 issue mini's keep the suits from panicking and keep getting us Friday comics, I'll live.

[sickboy]

Oh I'll live. I just think the suits need their heads screwed on right.

[Rich]

More on the way:

Friday the 13th - Pamela's Tale Vol. 2 (of 2) (8/15/07)
http://www.dccomics.com/comics/?cm=7877

New Line's House of Horror Vol. 1 Freddy & Leatherface Crossover (9/5/07)
http://www.dccomics.com/comics/?cm=8037

Friday the 13th - How I Spent My Summer Vacation Vol. 1 (of 2) (9/12/07)
http://www.dccomics.com/comics/?cm=8039

Texas Chainsaw Massacre GRAPHIC NOVEL (9/19/07)
http://www.dccomics.com/comics/?cm=7876

Friday the 13th GRAPHIC NOVEL (9/26/07)
http://www.dccomics.com/comics/?cm=7873

Friday the 13th - How I Spent My Summer Vacation Vol. 2 (of 2) (10/10/07)
http://www.dccomics.com/comics/?cm=8228
ADDED:
The only thing I can't stand about these comics is that they always make Jason look like he did in Freddy vs. Jason. I wish they would make him look like he did in The Final Chapter.

[Darth Sinister]

Your first look at "Freddy vs Jason vs Ash" teaser image.

http://www.newsarama.com/Chicago_07/DC/fredy_jason_ash.jpg

And an interview with Jeff Katz, who was involved in the early development of the aborted film.

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=125014

[Sketch Sanchez]

so...wait, this is actually gonna happen? As a book?

THis make me happy in pants

[Freddy-Fan]

Great quote from that interview:

You’re coming close to creating your own classification of nerd… :D

Seriously though, reading that guy’s take on FvJvA made me sad that it didn't happen as a film. It sounded like they had some very entertaining stuff planed. I will definitely get the comics. . .especially since Chuck Dixion isn't attached to it. I hope they make Freddy right this time. . .in regards to both his look and the tone of his character.

[sickboy]

I will definitely get the comics. . .especially since Chuck Dixion isn't attached to it. I hope they make Freddy right this time. . .in regards to both his look and the tone of his character.

See, now I liked the first Freddy arc, I thought the tone was right, the pacing was excellent and Dixon's writing superb.

It does seem like it got a very mixed reaction. Maybe to do with non-comic fans buying a freddy comic and expecting it to be too much like a film, and comic fans buying it expecting it not to have elements of the films in there?

[MaDMaNMaRz]

I've seen these, but I don't own any of them. :(

Are they planning on releasing these as Graphic Novels?

[sickboy]

Yes they are indeed.

http://www.dccomics.com/graphic_novels/?gn=7873 <- Friday the 13th due out 29th September

http://www.dccomics.com/graphic_novels/?gn=7876 <- TCM due out 19th September

http://www.dccomics.com/graphic_novels/?gn=7872 <- ANOES due out 12 September


On a side note, the freddy one does not include issue 4 of the coic series, which I thought was a very very good read. So if you're picking up the trade you may want to hit ebay and/or ask your local store so you can have the whole run.

[Kane Lives]

The NOES trade paperback from what I understand, also doesn't include issue #8.

But, no big loss there IMO. :p

[Cody]

Coming out on January 9th -

Friday the 13th: Bad Land (http://www.dccomics.com/comics/?cm=8693) #1 (of 2)

Crystal Lake was a cursed, bloody location long before the arrival of Pamela Voorhees and her son Jason. The history of the surrounding area is a roadmap of tragedy and death, but one particular moment in the lake's history stands out above all...and that story will be told for the first time by Ron "Machete" Marz and Mike "Hockey Mask" Huddleston! Horror will have a new face in 2008!

Cover art at the link.

[Dogmatic Insanity]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/VoorheesX2/FvsJvsA2.jpg

[francesco]

can't wait, fisrt issue will be out next wednesday.

[MaDMaNMaRz]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v680/VoorheesX2/FvsJvsA2.jpg

That pic is pretty sweet. I'll have to look for this.

[francesco]

the fisrt issue of Freddy vs jason vs ash came out yesterday. there are 2 different covers one with freddy and one with jason. They are amazing!


http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p282/francesco74/freddyvsjasonvsash2.jpg



http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p282/francesco74/freddyvsjasonvaash1.jpg

[Cody]

the fisrt issue of Freddy vs jason vs ash came out yesterday. there are 2 different covers one with freddy and one with jason. They are amazing!

There's a third cover with Ash. They go together to make this full image -

http://www.dynamiteentertainment.com/images/freddyvsjasonvsash1mail.jpg

[francesco]

great cover!!!

[Chucky's back]

The only thing I can't stand about these comics is that they always make Jason look like he did in Freddy vs. Jason. I wish they would make him look like he did in The Final Chapter.
Yeah same here, I think it would be more interesting to see the artist come up with a new look for him instead of using that Frankenstein-like design in every comic.

[francesco]

yep i can undestand why, new line's tryng to let recognise Jason like he was on freddy vs jason.
And it's what I'm scared of. Hope they won't use frankestein Jason on the big screen again.

[Cody]

Coming out on January 9th -

Friday the 13th: Bad Land (http://www.dccomics.com/comics/?cm=8693) #1 (of 2)

Cover art at the link.


And on sale in February, Friday the 13th: Bad Land #2 (http://www.dccomics.com/comics/?cm=8903).

That's one big hand.

[Jigsaw]

FVJVA Issue 3 came out and I got it earlier. Very entertaining, the action picked up a lot in this issue (with Jason going on a massacre in S-Mart and a short but fun fight with Ash and Jason, as well as a very clever Ash/Freddy nightmare towards the end that sets up Issue 4). Some of the dialogue is fairly cheesy, but that's expected from something like this, and the series so far has been very entertaining and fun.

[The One and Only]

Interview with the writer of this month's two part mini series, Friday The 13th:Bad Land, Ron Marz. (http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=142463)

[Jigsaw]

I got Issue 1 of F13: Bad Land today. It's pretty good, I like how the two stories set in the past and present interconnect with each other.

[Cody]

On sale (http://www.dccomics.com/comics/?cm=9210) April 30th -

FRIDAY THE 13TH: ABUSER AND THE ABUSED

A special one-shot! Maggie's life was never easy, but her abusive new boyfriend has pushed her over the edge. As her life spirals out of control, she hits upon the solution to her problems: use the local urban legend to "solve" the problems in her life. But what happens when she learns there's very little "legend" in the reality of Jason Voorhees?

[Rick]

On sale (http://www.dccomics.com/comics/?cm=9210) April 30th -
FRIDAY THE 13TH: ABUSER AND THE ABUSED

A special one-shot! Maggie's life was never easy, but her abusive new boyfriend has pushed her over the edge. As her life spirals out of control, she hits upon the solution to her problems: use the local urban legend to "solve" the problems in her life. But what happens when she learns there's very little "legend" in the reality of Jason Voorhees?

Ahh shit, I had a story idea like that myself about a husband who uses the legend of Jason to kill his wife and collect the insurance.

[Jigsaw]

That sounds pretty cool, I'll be picking it up.

[Rick]

I just picked up Bad Land #2.
Unfortunately it was pretty weak.

[Jigsaw]

I'm afraid I have to agree. The first issue showed promise, but Issue 2 felt rushed and slapped together without care. A disappointing ending to a solid premise :|

[Kane Lives]

The only Friday comic that Wildstorm has released so far that I've really liked was the first 6 issue arc.

[Steve]

The only Friday comic that Wildstorm has released so far that I've really liked was the first 6 issue arc.

I have to agree with that, they've made a steady decline from there although Bad Land was a step up from Pamela's Tale. I really wanted to like the latter, but issue 2 was just awful. :(

[Jigsaw]

Pamela's Tale #1 was decent, but Issue 2 was just awful. Bad Land was good in the first issue but the second was a mess. How I Spent My Summer Vacation was decent but nothing great. The six-issue story and FVJVA have been very good.

[Cody]

A new TCM one-shot in May (http://www.dccomics.com/comics/?cm=9380)

THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE: RAISING CAIN

Written by Bruce Jones; Art by Chris Gugliotti; Cover by Dave Taylor

Twin boys, Cain and Abel, are born into the Hewitt clan. But their mother is determined that her children will escape their obscene bloodline, no matter the cost. And when it's the Hewitts, the cost can be very high indeed…

On Sale May 7, 2008

[Natman]

I actually loved How I Spent My Summer Vacation. I thought it was great in terms of story, had a few flaws but was at least along the lines of something I've been wanting to see for a while. Everything I've seen from Wildstorm has been leaps and bounds ahead of everything I saw from Avatar. At least here there's a strong attempt at good storytelling. I am disappointed from what I've read of Wildstorm's Nightmare series. It had so much potential, yet they managed to take it really over the top. Unfortunately I haven't read much of the Wildstorm TCM comics.

[Rick]

How I spent my Summer Vacation was fun, short but fun.
Much better then Bad Lands.

[Kane Lives]

I am disappointed from what I've read of Wildstorm's Nightmare series.


I agree that the Wildstorm Freddy comics have been disappointing. Better than the Avatar ones IMO, but still a letdown.


I liked issues #3 and #4 of the original monthly series, and the Tales of Horror issue. I felt The Demon of Sleep arc could have been pretty good, but they crammed it into a 3 issue storyline when it could have easily been a 6 issue mini series.

Other than the short in the Tales of Horror comic, I haven't read any of the TCM comics.

[Jigsaw]

Got FVJVA Issue 5 today and enjoyed it. Very action-packed and with some neat references to the past films, such as some of Jason's victims coming back as Deadites to attack him. I spotted Shelley from Part 3, Jimbo from TFC and Eddie from ANB (who was really Roy's victim). And finally, at long last in an F13 comic, Jason gets unmasked! His visage revealed is pretty nasty-looking, too, and the way he's revealed is pretty neat, when Ash blows his mask off of his face. Only thing I didn't like was how the comic somewhat suggested that Jason may be a Deadite, but that aside, I enjoyed this.

I have to say though that it's boring to see Jason use only the machete, would it hurt to give him variety with his weapons? If they ever make this into a movie, I hope they would mix up his arsenal.

[Sean [The Wildcard]]

I picked up Friday the 13th: Pamela's Tale #1 today, along with the first two issues of The Evil Dead comics.

Pamela's Tale is so-so.
I can't find issue 2 anywhere...next time I head down to my comic shop I will give the place a better look-see.

Evil Dead issues 1 and 2 are AMAZING. Keeping a lot of the film in tact, and even adding more. The art, I think, is wonderful. And I don't mind the fact that the characters, except Ash and Scotty, Look totally different.

I can't wait to pick up Issue 3 next month! :D

[Jigsaw]

You're not missing anything if you haven't read Pamela's Tale Issue 2. IMO it was a terrible disappointment, with much of Jason's actual childhood upbringing largely ignored and glossed over, the explanation for his anger is lame (the writers obviously took a cue from Rob Zombie with the dead kittens) and the continuity is fucked with when it shows how Jason drowned.

Things like that make me realize how much more effective your own imagination and interpretation can be sometimes.

[Sean [The Wildcard]]

You're not missing anything if you haven't read Pamela's Tale Issue 2. IMO it was a terrible disappointment, with much of Jason's actual childhood upbringing largely ignored and glossed over, the explanation for his anger is lame (the writers obviously took a cue from Rob Zombie with the dead kittens) and the continuity is fucked with when it shows how Jason drowned.

Things like that make me realize how much more effective your own imagination and interpretation can be sometimes.

Well, thanks for the info. :cool:

But, knowing me...I am still going to pick it up anyway.

:D

[Jigsaw]

After reading both of the PT issues, I'm damned glad they never used a backstory like that for neither Pamela nor Jason.

[Rick]

Yah, Pamela's tale was disappointing in that they made Jason a deranged psycho in his childhood.

[Jigsaw]

To me, Jason is a tragic character who was made into a killer due to the cruel circumstances he faced as a boy. Making him a psycho right from the get-go ruined that IMO.

[Sketch Sanchez]

I gotta be honest, I thought Bad Lands was very good. I enjoyed the art immesnly but I thought the parallell tales were a nice touch. And considering its a basic F13 slash and kill story, I think they did a damn fine job.

[Cody]

According to an interview on this MySpace (http://www.myspace.com/fridaythe13thfranchise), Freddy vs Jason vs Ash artist Jason Craig and colorist Thomas Mason are now working on a new NOES miniseries.

[Jigsaw]

I look forward to that,I've greatly enjoyed their work with FVJVA.

[Chucky's back]

This issue looks interesting...http://www.dccomics.com/comics/?cm=9210

[Jigsaw]

That looks kind of cool, I'll definitely be buying that.

[Monkey]

I just finished the FvJvA series last night. Didn't care much for it. A little too cheesy for my tastes. I'll definitely keep them, though. It wasn't my thing, however, I did enjoy seeing Jason in a comic book and bought all six issues for my nephew (he's a fan of all three characters).

[Jigsaw]

I got F13: Abuser And The Abused when it came out, what a disappointment. It's way too short and the ending is so abrupt. The way the whole story gets rolling too is just so sudden and you're like "WTF?" while you read it. I enjoyed the EC Comics-style artwork it had, but that's about it.

[Cody]

There wasn't much to Abuser, but I thought it was an enjoyable bit of fluff. Loved the old school style art.

[Cody]

The Future of Friday the 13th (http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/comicsnews.php?id=7343)

Marc Andreyko, writer of Wildstorm's Friday the 13th: Pamela's Story, tells us he's pitching the editors a new mini-series.

"I've been talking to Wildstorm about doing a Friday story like Agatha Christie's Ten Little Indians about the first meeting of the survivors of the Friday the 13th movies, someone's killing them off," he reveals.

He adds Wildstorm is approaching a next Voorhees mini-series with trepidation due to low sales numbers. Currently, one graphic novel exists (not a bad one, at that) with a second collection arriving this October. So, comic book/Voorhees fans, if you want to see Wildstorm continue its Friday line you've got to show your support!

[The One and Only]

I was under the impression that there might be a sequel to the comic adaptation to Freddy Vs. Jason. Vs. Ash on the way in the near future. Considering how well that book had sold. A great way to follow that one up(a dead horse for which I can't stop assulting:yap::work:) would be another idea that was rumored in the wake of FJA being dropped. Was Freddy Vs. Jason:Hack/Slash featuring the two kings of horror, facing the slasher hunters, Casssie Hack and the Jason-like Vlad. I'd give my cousin's left nut:ballshot: to see that one made. Especially with Hack/Slash creator Tim Seeley writing Freddy's dialogue.

[Michellemabelle]

Does anyone here think the Americarnivore arc in the TCM comics is very much similar to TCM2?

[Cody]

A bit. The underground tunnels were definitely an homage to TCM2.

[Michellemabelle]

Baines seemed to be a Lefty homage, as well.

[Matt326]

i was looking at the wildstom site and they have the 2 friday the 13th Graphic Novels and Freddy vs. Jason vs. Ash.i am geting Freddy vs. Jason vs. Ash,but i was wondering about the friday the 13th ones. are they worth buying??


Thanks
Matt326

[Rick]

I liked the first 5-issue series, the one with the teens reopening the camp. Pamela's tale and How i spent my Summer Vacation were ok.
The two issue story that takes place in the present and the past with the three trappers vs the indian was pretty lame IMO. If that is one of the two graphics I'd skip it.

[Michellemabelle]

I'd love to see Wildstorm revamp their F13 series to tie in to the remake.... but it ain't happening.