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hack slash
10-05-2007, 01:27 AM
I knew it
http://videoeta.com/news/2366
'Scream 4' gets greenlight
Posted October 4, 2007 at 4:42 PM
By John Couture
In the "out of nowhere" category comes word today that The Weinstein Company has greenlit Scream 4. It must be fourth movie day in Hollywood.
The Weinstein Company released the following official statement:
"The Scream franchise has become a cult classic. Together, all three movies have grossed over $300 million at the box office, just in the United States alone. The fans have been asking for a 4th Scream movie for years and we're finally giving it to them. As far as details go, we're only in the planning stages and we may not get around to it for quite some time, but rest assured, it will happen."
Obviously, at this early stage the details are sketchy but it would be ultra cool if Neve Campbell reprised her role of Sidney.
I can't spell Scream....LOL
Deathscythe
10-05-2007, 01:36 AM
I think they should have left it as a trilogy, but I'll check this out.
The Dream Master
10-05-2007, 01:36 AM
Fixed that for you, HS.
As for the news, it gets a big "meh" from me until we know some information.
Spade
10-05-2007, 01:49 AM
It gets a big meh for me period. IMO the first was o.k., but the sequels were average at best.
Kane Lives
10-05-2007, 02:24 AM
It gets a big meh for me period.
That pretty much sums up my feelings as well.
Melanie Jarvis
10-05-2007, 02:25 AM
I always have faith in the Scream series. Hopefully Neve, David, and Courtney will return.
Deathscythe
10-05-2007, 02:29 AM
I miss Jamie Kennedy, he should have another cameo.
If they do this I hope it's with an entirely different cast with an entirely different story (That just uses the Woodsboro murders as inspiration), and hopefully they go with someone other than Wes Craven this time, just make it something different.
A few more years and they could've just made a remake.
If they do this I hope it's with an entirely different cast with an entirely different story (That just uses the Woodsboro murders as inspiration)
I have a feeling that will be the case, though the Arquettes have always been interested in doing a 4th. I really doubt Neve Campbell will be involved.
Westin
10-05-2007, 02:47 AM
YEEEES! I am included among those fans who had been asking for a 4th Scream movie.
The Dream Master
10-05-2007, 02:47 AM
A few more years and they could've just made a remake.
:lol:
This is just pure speculation on my part, but what if this is just one of those direct-to-video sequel-in-name only deals?
BlakeTyner
10-05-2007, 02:51 AM
:lol:
This is just pure speculation on my part, but what if this is just one of those direct-to-video sequel-in-name only deals?
Scream 4 - starring one of the kids from "The Hills" and Paris Hilton, coming soon to the $3 bin at your local Wal-Mart.
~Blake
Violent VictiM
10-05-2007, 03:02 AM
I always have faith in the Scream series. Hopefully Neve, David, and Courtney will return.
Your post was nothing like I thought it was going to be. I figured you'd be jumping up and down, throwing stuffed animals around and stuff. That'd make a sweet smilie.
Melanie Jarvis
10-05-2007, 03:16 AM
Well, I am excited. I have a love for sequels and the Scream series is just so fun.
Deathscythe
10-05-2007, 03:18 AM
Scream 4 - starring one of the kids from "The Hills" and Paris Hilton, coming soon to the $3 bin at your local Wal-Mart.
~Blake
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hack slash
10-05-2007, 03:34 AM
Co-Distributed by MTV films.
isn't MTV film also involved with The Friday remake?:p
Deathscythe
10-05-2007, 03:47 AM
isn't MTV film also involved with The Friday remake?:p
No, MTV is not involved in the non-existent New Line Cinema 1995 film Friday remake.:p
Sean [The Wildcard]
10-05-2007, 04:19 AM
I seriously have idea what I think about this. It's a little weird to me.:duh:
Shoesalesman
10-05-2007, 04:39 AM
As long as Neve is back... I'm good to go. :shy:
Melanie Jarvis
10-05-2007, 04:41 AM
I have heard that she wouldn't be totally opposed to doing a cameo, but nothing more. But I mean, she isn't really doing anything else so maybe they can sway her if the money is right.
Jigsaw
10-05-2007, 04:44 AM
I've never been a Scream fan, the first film was tolerable but I hated the sequels. Maybe this'll be good though, I've always liked the concept of the series but I felt the execution wasn't quite there.
Melanie Jarvis
10-05-2007, 04:47 AM
Loved the first film, second one was kind of blah, third one was not bad. I don't know where else they could take the story, but I'm sure it will at least be a decent film.
The first film was Halloween, the second one was Friday the 13th and the third one was...shit.
The first film was Halloween, the second one was Friday the 13th and the third one was...
Scooby Doo.
The Dark Vampire
10-05-2007, 05:37 AM
What I can see happing is they do a movie with a whole new load of characters they do mention the original movies and maybe even set it in or around Woodsboro.
But then is a twist ending Sydney will be reviled as Ghostface the events of the other movies finally drove her over the edge and at least one of the victims or most likely survivor/s will somehow have a connection to someone from the original series
Scooby Doo.
"And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling kids!"
Just Jeans
10-05-2007, 06:06 AM
Oh, I do hope Jay and Silent Bob are back. I love those guys.
Anyhoo, while I try not to ramble on about pointless sequels, Scream 4 is unfortunately what I'd consider a pointless sequel. I like the first film because it was relevant to the 1990s. There wasn't much happening in the way of horror films at the time, so it was nice to have. The whole "there are certain rules!" bit was cute then, but it's appeal has since grown thin.
I'll probably see it when it comes out, but I'm not expecting great things.
Rumor Control: 'SCREAM 4' NOT Happening... Ok? (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/10078)
Ok, I was going to post this earlier but I figured people would be smart enough to realize that a blogspot claiming to be the Weinstein Company is complete crap - apparently I was wrong as other sites keep picking this story up and thus causing my inbox to be flooded with people telling me I'm missing "the big story!" The big story is that we checked in this morning with the Weinsteins who instantly screamed "BOGUS". There is no Weinstein blogspot and as of right now there is no Scream 4. Plus, do we really need another Scream? Really?
The Dream Master
10-05-2007, 07:30 AM
Thread title updated to reflect this news.
Scarecrow
10-05-2007, 07:44 AM
Have to say, I'm glad. It was a brilliant trilogy and best to be left that way.
- Scarecrow
FreddyKR
10-06-2007, 05:28 PM
I would want to see another one. There are so many bad horror movies that have come out and just plain suck. Scream was a fun thriller, I want another one.
nickmeece
06-26-2008, 05:06 AM
EXCLUSIVE!
Official poll going on at my site, Scream-Thrillogy.com...
Go there for details!
(Note: this poll is a lot like the one they did for HELLOWEEN.)
El Rooto
06-26-2008, 05:12 AM
Uh...vote yes?
nickmeece
06-26-2008, 05:15 AM
More than just a yes/no type of thing this time, though.
Just Jeans
06-26-2008, 05:27 AM
Are you positive that the e-mail is actually from the Weinstein Company? I'd be a bit dubious of anyone suggesting that an online poll will decide the fate of a major motion picture.
nickmeece
06-26-2008, 05:33 AM
The e-mail was loaded with credentials and even a number to call...whidh I did and it was confirmed.
This is huge...the biggest thing to ever happen to any of my sites...
I pass, the story was told in it's trilogy, Give it five more years and remake it.
Andiac
06-26-2008, 10:24 AM
I pass, the story was told in it's trilogy, Give it five more years and remake it.
Hah that's sad and true. Scream is now over ten years old. 1996? So 14 years old. Next year marks it's 15th Anniversary. A true milestone in 90s horror I think.
Scary to think/know that a 15 year old movie can be remade so easily. The last sequel came out in 2000. So that makes it 8 years dead. Hallweeon Ressurection was what, 2003 or 2004? Then the remake was 2007. That's three to four years between a 'dead' series before it's remade.
Scary how fast things are remade.
They asked me if I want a Scream 4, I said "No, no, no."
PeterBaker
06-26-2008, 11:06 PM
is the original scream website up anymore. It was about a year ago but now im not finding it. :-(
Jason_Legend
06-27-2008, 12:53 AM
There was a time when I thought the first two movies were like the coolest things around, and Scream 3 was the most anticipated movie of my life, until Freddy vs. Jason.
I still like these movies, especially 1 and 2, but it's just not the same. It's amazing.
HalloweenHorror
06-27-2008, 02:40 AM
They asked me if I want a Scream 4, I said "No, no, no."
Rehab? That's hysterical! :)
I still really like and appreciate Scream 1 & 2 and the first I Know... (To hell with Scream 3 and I Still Know...)
But there is no need for a Scream 4. I'll take the Torture and Remake eras over another trendy slasher era any day.
Deathscythe
06-27-2008, 04:39 AM
Yeah...lets just leave this one as a trilogy.
blink
06-27-2008, 05:54 AM
Well, the original trilogy will always have a special place in my heart (even if part 3 sucked pretty badly IMO) but I would definately be up for another sequel.
Similar to the Friday series going on after the Final Chapter and the Halloween series (the Michael Myers parts at least) continuing after the first two, any new Scream sequels now could be really entertaining in their own way.
I mean if this were the 80s and they had just announced Halloween 4 and 5, how many people would be flipping out over those, say how badly they are going to suck? Personally, I love Halloween 4 and greatly appreciate part 5...
Also, I have trouble thinking of the original trilogy as anthing more than one great movie for its time, one great sequel, and then an entertaining, but overall crappy finale. I mean, they changed the endings and screenplays for parts 2 and 3 so many times that it makes no sense to me to view all three movies as one complete trilogy if only because the guys behind the films didnt even know where they were going with them until they got there.
Am I making any sense or have I lost it?
Scarecrow
06-27-2008, 08:28 AM
Also, I have trouble thinking of the original trilogy as anthing more than one great movie for its time, one great sequel, and then an entertaining, but overall crappy finale. I mean, they changed the endings and screenplays for parts 2 and 3 so many times that it makes no sense to me to view all three movies as one complete trilogy if only because the guys behind the films didnt even know where they were going with them until they got there.
?
But that's true of pretty much anything in Holywood and horror. Phantasm, Saw, Hellraiser, Halloween, it's all made up as thye go along with maybe some ideas considered for the future. I think Scream holds up well as a trilogy myself.
- Scarecrow
The Dream Master
06-27-2008, 08:29 AM
Nah, I agree with you, Blink. I mean, this series is a bit of a satire on the slasher genre, and how many of those ended in a trilogy? Isn't the hallmark of most slasher series the fact that they go on forever, despite having "Final Chapters" (or two of them in the case of Friday the 13th)?
MysterioMan007
06-30-2008, 11:17 PM
I watched this trilogy again recently and I think time has given me new perspective on this trilogy. For the most part, the original (to me) is a classic. I have always enjoyed, never gotten tired of it, and still it ranks as one of my faves of all-time. The second one I found to be a very underrated movie and the third I didn't like at all. The only reason I'd like to see a 4th made is to end the series on a better note than Part 3. If they can't make it better, don't bother and it was fun while it lasted.
Jack Bauer
07-01-2008, 01:14 AM
Scream 3 had a great ending; it shown that Sid was ready to leave everything behind and become normal again. Although leaving the door opened made it very ambiguous to what was going to happened next.
Notti
07-01-2008, 01:22 AM
I don't really care if a fourth film is made. If we do get one, I'll probably watch it. If not, I won't lose any sleep.
Jack Bauer
07-01-2008, 01:49 AM
I think if Scream 4 was to be made, it would been released DTDVD sadly. Half of these sequels nowadays are DTDVDs.
nickmeece
07-01-2008, 02:37 AM
I'm a little partial to the whole "second trilogy" idea.
HalloweenHorror
07-15-2008, 06:55 AM
Source: JoBlo.com (http://www.joblo.com/scream-4-and-more)
Scream 4 and more Jul. 14, 2008
Source: TWC by: Dave Davis
If you're suffering from the current economic deterioration and a few questionable business decisions, what can you do? Why not form a partnership with Showtime and make another SCREAM movie?
Okay, that may not be the perfect solution for everyone, but it's good enough for the Weinstein Co., who are doing that very thing. TWC are no longer flying solo, having formed a "long-term strategic partnership" with the cable giant, which will provide an assist on the Weinsteins' current and future slate.
That future slate apparently involves yet another stabby adventure of "Ghostface"/"Father Death". SCREAM 4 was officially announced as part of the deal, along with PIRANHA 3D, remakes of Cronenberg's SCANNERS and Kurosawa's THE SEVEN SAMURAI, and THE SIX BILLION DOLLAR MAN... plus the recently mobilized projects NINE and INGLORIOUS BASTARDS.
No further details on SCREAM 4 were offered, but it's safe to assume it will involve one or more people wearing a Munch-inspired mask and slicing familiar actors into messy piles.
Extra Tidbit: In SCREAM 3, Jamie Kennedy posthumously laid down the "rules" for contending with a killer in the concluding chapter of a trilogy. If only he were alive to tell us what to do in a fourth. R.I.P., Jamie Kennedy.
Looks like it has been greenlighted!
Oh Joy, a new Scream film with the cast of Gossip Girl and One Tree Hill. :rolleyes:
I love the original and the second, I don't really like the third but it was a suitable ending. Now, if it has nothing to do with Woodsboro or the other characters and just focuses on a new group of people with a copycat Ghostface then I'll give it a chance.
Deathscythe
07-15-2008, 07:34 AM
Oh, I do hope Jay and Silent Bob are back. I love those guys.
Funny, nobody has mentioned in Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back Wes Craven was already making a Scream 4...to star a monkey as the killer.;)
sam hane
07-15-2008, 07:40 AM
Oh Joy, a new Scream film with the cast of Gossip Girl and One Tree Hill. :rolleyes:
Yes as opposed to the first trilogy that starred the casts of Party of Five, Dawson's Creek and Buffy the Vampire Slayer...
Deathscythe
07-15-2008, 07:42 AM
Yes as opposed to the first trilogy that starred the casts of Party of Five, Dawson's Creek and Buffy the Vampire Slayer...
Hey Buffy was a cool show, but mostly for that Billy Idol wannabe Spike.
Creighton Duke
07-15-2008, 07:57 AM
Yup, looks like Scream 4's been greenlit.
More information on it here! (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/12910)
I was never a big fan, but I'm hoping they don't ruin the franchise that's credited with rejuvenating the slasher genre.
Scarecrow
07-15-2008, 08:18 AM
Hmm... seems pointless. I eman the slasher craze is not happening at the moment, gornography is the current trend, and remakes an dit should be ntoedd remakes that are closer to slashers are the ones that are the least successful. Strieks me as bad judgement.
- Scarecrow
Patrick
07-15-2008, 08:39 AM
COOL! I love this franchise.
Yes as opposed to the first trilogy that starred the casts of Party of Five, Dawson's Creek and Buffy the Vampire Slayer...
All better shows sir.
sam hane
07-15-2008, 09:31 AM
Opinions differ. I just find it highly laughable that people who are on CW dramas, that people don't like, are considered not real actors because people don't like their shows.
Never said they weren't real actors, just said it's predictable what Bob & Harvey are gonna do with this Scream 4.
sam hane
07-15-2008, 10:02 PM
Never said they weren't real actors, just said it's predictable what Bob & Harvey are gonna do with this Scream 4.
And you described exactly what they did with the first trilogy and those films turned out fine :)
El Rooto
07-24-2008, 11:05 PM
One Tree Hill cast, my ass, DRE!
Scream 4 updates (http://www.joblo.com/arrow/index.php?id=13051)
A few weeks ago the Weinstein Company and Showtime released a press release telling of their collaboration. In this press release, they passingly mentioned that a SCREAM 4 was in the pipeline, but didn't divulge any details as to what their plan was... only that there was a plan for it (check out that story HERE).
Jump to today, and we have a little more details on what's going on on the SCREAM 4 front. First up, Moviehole scored word that writer Michael T. Kennedy submitted a script for the long awaited sequel about 6 months ago, though the script has not been greenlit yet. Also, word around the campfire is, no Neve Campbell, no SCREAM 4... TWC will wait to make the sequel until Campbell comes around and agrees to star. Since she hasn't done squat in the last few years, it'd be a good idea for her to finally give in and do it... but as she's held out for 8 years, I highly doubt it. To check out the full scoop, click HERE.
The other piece of news comes from ifMagazine. In a chat with franchise star Jaime Kennedy, Kennedy revealed that a) SCREAM 4 is being actively talked about, b) the only way TWC would do it is if Wes Craven returned to direct, and c) Kennedy's character (Randy) would return for the sequel... even though he was killed off in SCREAM 2. Sound crazy? You bet your ass it does, but that doesn't make it less true. Head THIS WAY for the full chat--he also talks about who else might be returning to the franchise...
What's the takeaway message then? I dunno... just that SCREAM 4 is a hot topic for TWC and past franchise stars, and that no matter what anyone says, it's in th pipeline and may just be made... sooner or later. Now I just want to see how they plan on having Randy and others return from the grave for a part 4...
Scarecrow
07-25-2008, 08:28 AM
Lost a lot of interest, sounds like a lot of shark jumping. It'd work if it was a mdoern take on the concept, with new characters, set in the same world, but brinign back Sidney and RANDY!?! Nah. She's had 5 people out for her andthat was pushing it already. A shame.
- Scarecrow
El Rooto
07-30-2008, 04:13 AM
Craven talks Scream 4 in this here article (http://www.joblo.com/arrow/index.php?id=13184).
To SCREAM or not to SCREAM, that is the current question. Mr. Ammon’s last update on the franchise’s fourth installment said that Neve Campbell wasn’t yet interested, Jaime Kennedy was, and The Weinstein Company would only do it if Wes Craven directed. Personally, I feel that the last instance is the most important. It’s also the subject of today’s article!
Our friends at STYD caught up with Mr. Craven (above doing a cameo in the first SCREAM) at Comic Con and asked him the obvious question: Why did he direct MUSIC OF THE HEART? Just kidding! The real question was, of course, what is up with SCREAM 4. Here’s how he replied:
"There has been contact. I haven't spoken to Bob Weinstein but they have checked with my agent. I'm not saying 'no.'" Okay, interesting. From the way that SCREAM 3 was handled, I thought for sure that Craven wanted out of the series. But apparently, ol’ Ghostface isn’t dead to him yet. Here’s what he says it’d take to bring him back: "It really is: Is there a script? What I found increasingly in the SCREAM series is that the script were being written while we were shooting. The first one was a written script, it went out to the whole town and the Weinsteins jumped on it. There was very little changed in that. But 2 and 3? There were a lot of other people, including myself, writing on those."
I wonder if Kevin Williamson heard about this. After working on the scripts for SCREAM 1 & 2, he basically handed the writing reigns over to Ehren Kruger (Freddy relation?) for part 3. Williamson seemed disinterested with the pop-culture horror phenomenon he created and decided to move on to Oscar-worthy efforts like TEACHING MRS. TINGLE and CURSED. I’m just trying to illustrate that it’s been a long time since Kevin has had any sort of hit. Maybe he should come crawling back to Craven and SCREAM on his bloody hands and knees?
Darth Sinister
07-30-2008, 08:23 PM
Hey Buffy was a cool show, but mostly for that Billy Idol wannabe Spike.
Buffy: "Actually, Billy Idol stole his look from—never mind." :p
Penhall
07-30-2008, 09:48 PM
I used to be opposed to this, but if Craven and Williamson come back (and dont get dicked around by the Weinsteins), then I'm all for it.
nickmeece
12-09-2008, 02:59 PM
From Sequel-Buzz (http://www.sequel-buzz.com)
We got the chance to catch up with Michael T. Kennedy, the possible screenwriter for Scream 4. Here's what he had to say...
Did you have any inspiration for your 'Scream 4' script or was it
something that's been in the back of your mind?
"It was something I had in the bak of my mind for sure. I think the treatment I wrote is more of the story I want to see as opposed to the screenplay they have. I think both are great stories but the treatment really shows more of what Sidney has had to deal with after all of her experiences. The script is strong but is more of a direct continuation of Scream 3 and the first draft was written in 2004 and has since been punched up multiple times. The treatment is a darker alternative. But in the end both are separate stories I wanted to see so I decided well what if Sidney's life went this route or what if it went route B. So I decided to do both stories and if chosed let the suits decide the route they intend to take."
The first film's theme was "blame the movies," the second's was
"blame the parents," and the third's was "blame yourself." Does your
screenplay have a specific theme?
"I would say that the theme is about redemption on all fronts. For Sidney, for Dewey & Gale, and for some of the new characters. The thing I wanted to do more than anything was base it in reality as well as have our villain use the old formula but with new twists. I think what twists I developed will suprise the fans in wha they are as well as in their simplicity."
Last but not least, have you heard anything from producers
regarding anything at all?
"As of right now my manager has heard very little other than that they are still felling everything out."
Thanks again, Michael.
French Friday
12-11-2008, 06:00 PM
I'm all for a Scream 4 if they go back to the tone and atmosphere of the first movie. Meaning not as serious (serious as in boring serious) as 2 and not as funny as 3. The original Scream was the perfect recipe between dark and fun. 4 should go back there.
As much as 3 was a good closure to Sydney's story, it wasn't good enough to close the series. So let's have a 4th !
jasonlives13
12-12-2008, 12:44 PM
I just think this series of films should of ended as a trilogy
Scarecrow
12-12-2008, 12:59 PM
This is definitly a case where I'd support a 4th without the original cast. Or maybe Sidney as a special guest. My idea would be have a killer, his own target and scheme, who uses the "Stab" style of killings, but who is doing a "remake" of Stab. Really highlight that fact and maybe have the heroine ontact Sidney and try and get her help. Could even have someone to mention the rules of a remake... "gorier", "reference the original" etc.
- Scarecrow
Brett H.
12-12-2008, 01:04 PM
Anything worth doing is overdoing, I hope they make 10 Screams.
WesReviews
12-12-2008, 01:24 PM
I really disliked Scream 3, but not enough so that I wouldn't still go see a 4th. I say, if Neve comes back (and if you can find a way to bring back Jamie Kennedy), I'm on board.
The Dream Master
12-12-2008, 05:21 PM
The way I see it, if they really want to parody the slasher sub-genre, it makes sense for them to keep making them. That's what most of the slashers are notorious for: an endless amount of sequels.
In other words, I'm game.
Westin
12-12-2008, 05:55 PM
This is definitly a case where I'd support a 4th without the original cast. Or maybe Sidney as a special guest. My idea would be have a killer, his own target and scheme, who uses the "Stab" style of killings, but who is doing a "remake" of Stab. Really highlight that fact and maybe have the heroine ontact Sidney and try and get her help. Could even have someone to mention the rules of a remake... "gorier", "reference the original" etc.
- Scarecrow
Now that's something I'd like to see.
I really disliked Scream 3, but not enough so that I wouldn't still go see a 4th. I say, if Neve comes back (and if you can find a way to bring back Jamie Kennedy), I'm on board.
I think that Randy should be the killer... that he was in on the act in scream 2 and it was stage makeup or something.
Just Jeans
12-12-2008, 10:31 PM
I like that idea, Skye. It's probably the only way to keep him involved.
You know what I think? This film should send up the current remake trend. I'm not sure how they should go about it, but the killer should be trying to recreate the events of the original. This way you get a new cast (you gotta have a new cast in a remake, after all) and you can leave Sidney well enough alone.
Scarecrow
12-13-2008, 09:17 AM
I like that idea, Skye. It's probably the only way to keep him involved.
You know what I think? This film should send up the current remake trend. I'm not sure how they should go about it, but the killer should be trying to recreate the events of the original. This way you get a new cast (you gotta have a new cast in a remake, after all) and you can leave Sidney well enough alone.
Great idea! So good, I said it about two posts up. ;) :p
Ah well, great minds...
- Scarecrow
French Friday
12-14-2008, 04:58 PM
Great idea the "remake killer" idea !
Just Jeans
12-15-2008, 03:35 AM
You know, I did read your previous post, Scarecrow... but somehow the Stab remake bit went right in one ear and out the other. :X
Haha, they should let us write the script...
We'd have Randy kill off Sidney at the very beginning a'la Halloween: Resurrection because he went bat-shit crazy when she didn't love him... and then have him do a remake of Stab.
Melanie Jarvis
12-15-2008, 04:04 PM
I had pretty much come to terms with there not being anymore 'Scream' films, but I always say... if the script is right, give it the greenlight!
Spook
12-15-2008, 05:58 PM
I think now would be an appropriate time for a Scream 4. As some of you have said, it could definitely take into consideration the whole remake trend that's going on. Now would be as good a time as any, with almost every classic being remade. There's potential, and it could totally poke fun at the whole idea of it. I'm all for it, if it decides to go in this route.
French Friday
12-15-2008, 06:01 PM
And why not Randy killing Sidney at the beginning and going in a rampage remaking the events of the first movie simply because he didn't like having been killed in the second movie ? (the way a character knows he's an actor but is always the character, like in these sitcoms where the character looks at the audience, Will Smith-Fresh Prince-style). Yeah, I know, stupid idea, but I love that. ^^
Scarecrow
12-15-2008, 06:55 PM
I'd rather have Randy kept out of it myself, but a character very similar to Randy as a direct reference to the whole remake aspect.
- Scarecrow
The Dark Shape
12-16-2008, 09:52 PM
I'm actually fairly impressed that they've put this off as long as they have. Even with a quick greenlight, we'll have gone at least ten years without a Scream film. Restraint is a rare, rare thing in the horror business.
If you'd asked me a few years ago, I would've said to go with an entirely new cast -- but enough time has passed that I think you can bring Sidney back and do something interesting with that story. Killing her off in an opening shocker would be a mistake, as it would essentially invalidate the first three. Why do we care if she's just going to get offed in a nonchalant manner? Whatever you do, don't waste characters.
nickmeece
12-18-2008, 10:21 PM
So one of the possible writer, Michael Kennedy, has had an early draft of his script leaked onto the Internet. Shame shame.
His story's okay...but not what I'm looking for in S4.
Spook
12-18-2008, 11:12 PM
Where did you hear about this so called script leak? I haven't seen/nor read anything about it.
blarghy-digesting sez (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/14923)
we have a few exclusive facts to kick start the hype.
Fact #1: Kevin Williamson (writer of two of the SCREAM films (character credit on third)) is going to start writing a draft, although it may or may not become the shooting script (which is typical).
Fact #2: Wes Craven may or may not direct, but there is a very good possibility that he will return.
Fact #3: They are making financial offers to David Arquette, Courtney Cox Arquette and Neve Campbell to play cameos.
Fact #4: This will be a younger version of the SCREAM movies.
The Dream Master
01-12-2009, 10:40 PM
So, Scream: The Next Generation, then?
I guess Craven is due for his one great film per decade, so I hope he does it.
El Rooto
01-12-2009, 10:46 PM
What about 25/8? :side:
Sean [The Wildcard]
01-12-2009, 11:41 PM
If Craven doesn't direct...does anyone else smell DTV?
Brett H.
01-12-2009, 11:46 PM
How can there be a younger version of Scream? Or does that mean PG-13?
If it's a spin-off, well, I liked the American Pie ones, so I'd be more than game to it, especially if the people from the original trilogy wouldn't want to come back for a fourth. If Craven directs, it's instant credibility and basically sure-fire that the film will be at the very least watchable and it could be very good. I think most problems with Scream 3 was the fact that the story had run its course and it never had the balls to make Sid, Cotton, Gale, etc... be the killer. The problem with a slasher trilogy is the name of the game is to kill people, so when few characters return, you have to essentially make up a whole new movie character-wise anyways and then have to do it again for the third. Everyone is expendable, so the whole three movies with one plot line that wore thin by the third as it was really lacked feel after the second part, which at least tried to do something different with two killers.
Spook
01-12-2009, 11:47 PM
I don't know. If Kevin Williamson is writing the script, I don't see why it would got DTV, even if Craven doesn't return. These movies have made good money for Dimension. Plus, I don't see Craven NOT doing it, even if for money purposes.
Just Jeans
01-13-2009, 12:28 AM
These movies have made good money for Dimension.
Well it's not like anyone ever accused Dimension of possessing good sense. :X
Jack Bauer
01-13-2009, 06:36 AM
Younger version of the SCREAM movies?
Dear God in Heaven, the teenyboppers are going to be in it.
SaturdayThe14th
01-13-2009, 08:51 AM
I can see this movie coming out with a PG-13 rating.
DedKid
01-13-2009, 04:58 PM
Ugh, I definitely smell PG-13 crap.
Knowing Dimension, they probably figure, "Prom Night was such a hit, and since it was PG13, that must be the key! So if we take a well known franchise & slap a PG13 on it, we'll have gold!", nevermind the fact that the Prom Night remake sucked goat cheese balls, but like James said, when has Dimension ever been accused of being sensible? They smell money, they react like a shark smelling blood :shifty:
The only way I can see this turning out moderately decent is if Williamson writes his most brilliant screenplay since Scream 2 and Craven directs it. And hopefully they're paying attention to this thread, because a send-up of the remake trend is probably the only way they're gonna get real horror fans into the theater for this.
The Dream Master
01-13-2009, 05:03 PM
Younger version of the SCREAM movies?
Dear God in Heaven, the teenyboppers are going to be in it.
Wasn't that one of the main complaints about the original films? :shyface:
I think most problems with Scream 3 was the fact that the story had run its course and it never had the balls to make Sid, Cotton, Gale, etc... be the killer.
That's what everyone had suspected before it's release in that it would be one of them which would be revealed in the finale "twist". That's actually what I somewhat enjoyed in a sense is the "twist" was that it wasn't them like everyone thought. The Scream films were known for their "pick out the killer and see if you're right" game among many viewers. Having it not be any of the more likely folks kept with the "twist" factor and made it someone out to be that nobody suspected. The Spanish In....I mean, that one dude.
I saw the talk about having Randy be the killer. Ew. Just no. Don't have his character go way out in left field like that. There isn't even much of reason that you could write for it to be him without just pissing all over the established character. It's like saying Nancy should have been revealed in a later Elm Street sequel to have been evil and working with Freddy or some such nonsense. My point is that having an established character just suddenly be evil for the sake of it is weak.
....sides, we all know the killer is Sydnee's zombie mom!!!! :o
About the draft talk, you have someone who mentioned they read an early draft from Michael Kennedy while you have an.....ummm....."news source" saying Williamson is possibly going to start on one. I wouldn't worry about Kennedy's just yet until it's confirmed his early draft will play into it, let alone if he'll be kept on. Hopefully Williamson sticks around though and gives a full draft instead of doing another Scream 3 where it was just a few notes and then turned it over to Ehren Krueger. Krueger can do good work, but I believe that's one of the reasons the films script felt a little underwhelming compared to the previous films.
nickmeece
01-13-2009, 08:01 PM
I'm pretty sure Michael Kennedy's script got the boot.
On another note, I hope this film at least makes fun of remakes...
Scarecrow
01-14-2009, 09:14 AM
If it has to happen I hope it doens't go for any weak "heroes as killer" twists that simply wouldn't fit, nor would I like to see them killing off the main cast, they missed that boat with Scream 3 and now it would, in my opinion, just be a little tasteless and tacky. Let's get a fresh, new young cast, echoing the originals. Have the old characters in almost Loomis or mentor roles.
- Scarecrow
I saw the talk about having Randy be the killer. Ew. Just no. Don't have his character go way out in left field like that. There isn't even much of reason that you could write for it to be him without just pissing all over the established character. It's like saying Nancy should have been revealed in a later Elm Street sequel to have been evil and working with Freddy or some such nonsense. My point is that having an established character just suddenly be evil for the sake of it is weak.
....sides, we all know the killer is Sydnee's zombie mom!!!! :o
Having Randy be the killer would not be 'out in left field' as you put it. Randy made no secret to the fact that he was in love with Sidney. It would be a classic case of 'I loved you, you didn't love me, so now I'm going to go crazy and kill you.'.
And it would bring Jamie Kennedy back. :D
Having Randy be the killer would not be 'out in left field' as you put it. Randy made no secret to the fact that he was in love with Sidney. It would be a classic case of 'I loved you, you didn't love me, so now I'm going to go crazy and kill you.'.
By having the fourth film have him be the killer for that motive, yes it would. How many years had it been since the first one (in movie time, that is)? They were in high school in the first film. By the third, college was done and over with for Sydney so it's been some time and all of a sudden, Randy faked his death to wait at least a few years if not more to show up and be all like "I love you...Imma kill you!"? If he was that head over heals to the point of murder, then he would have done the fake death/I'm a killer bit in the second film instead of several years later. He shouldn't have been able to contain himself for that long, let alone the fact he's still known as being dead to the rest of the world.
I think it would have been an interesting idea in the second film. To try and use it now seems very forced and doesn't quite make sense in regards to the motive and time frame of the film.
And it would bring Jamie Kennedy back.
I'm all for that, but that can be accomplished by having another video tape. Depending on the film's theme it could be difficult to have him actually know about the horror trend now a days from back in 1998, but it would be easier to swallow than the above.
Notti
01-14-2009, 06:39 PM
Fact #4: This will be a younger version of the SCREAM movies.
So does that mean they're going the Flintstone Kids/A Pup Named Scooby Doo route then?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/05/Flintstone_Kids.jpg
nickmeece
01-14-2009, 11:28 PM
A younger version, eh? Maybe we'll finally get a prequel. Because remember, the only thing scarier than how it ended, was how it began.
By having the fourth film have him be the killer for that motive, yes it would. How many years had it been since the first one (in movie time, that is)? They were in high school in the first film. By the third, college was done and over with for Sydney so it's been some time and all of a sudden, Randy faked his death to wait at least a few years if not more to show up and be all like "I love you...Imma kill you!"? If he was that head over heals to the point of murder, then he would have done the fake death/I'm a killer bit in the second film instead of several years later. He shouldn't have been able to contain himself for that long, let alone the fact he's still known as being dead to the rest of the world.
I think it would have been an interesting idea in the second film. To try and use it now seems very forced and doesn't quite make sense in regards to the motive and time frame of the film.
I'm all for that, but that can be accomplished by having another video tape. Depending on the film's theme it could be difficult to have him actually know about the horror trend now a days from back in 1998, but it would be easier to swallow than the above.
That's actually a very good point, Chex. I'd forgotten how long it's been between the 3rd film and now.
We could always hope for "Zombie Randy". :p
Zombie Randy: "Syd, I came back from the grave because of you!"
Syd: "Eh, Randy....you can't come back to life."
Zombie Randy (or is he): "Oh, I know. I'm just messing with you. You know how it is in films...someone always comes back from the dead."
Syd: "So how did you come back...."
Zombie Maurine Prescot: "Syd! It's me! You long lost dead mother, back from the dead!!!"
:p
Jack Bauer
01-15-2009, 01:53 AM
Wasn't that one of the main complaints about the original films? :shyface:
Yes, but I'm referring to modern teen stars like, Zac Elfon or God forbid The Jonas Brothers.
*shudders*
Hypnocil
01-19-2009, 03:09 AM
I really hope David and Courteney return for good sized roles. Neve, I could go either way, but I would like at least a cameo. Or make her the opening celebrity death. Really, it's amazing how Sydney and Maureen attracted so many serial killers, if they keep that formula it will start getting really bizarre.
Zac Efron, I'd say, is one of the better teen stars out there currently. I'd be fine with him starring. But I will say I shudder to think which celebrity "cameo's" they'd come up with in this day and age.
DedKid
01-19-2009, 10:01 AM
I dunno, of all the cliches that the series played on, the only they haven't hit (but did mention) was the killer being superhuman & the only way to stop him would be to "blow him up, freeze his head, and put it in a blender". So what if, by some chance, they decide to go that way with it? Of the fiver killers from the trilogy, which one would you pick to come back - - either from the dead or a Halloween 4 Myers-like coma - - to encore in Scream 4?
Personally, I'd vote for Mickey. Tim Olyphant's a great actor, I think of all the killers, he was the most brutal, and that manic, pro-sequel energy was great. That last bit also made him the easiest one to figure out of the bunch, insisting how some sequels have surpassed the originals because gee, he was trying to make a sequel :p
And I think Neve should definitely buy the farm. She was under-written to the point of regression in Scream 3, and that really annoyed me.
The IMDB, fountain of knowledge it is, had "inside info" posted by someone who claimed to be working in the promotion department a while back. It still may be there, but this guy claimed a treatment was written, divulged some of the details (like Sydney having a 15 year old son for starters), talked about negotiations with the surviving cast, as well as new cast members, which not only read like a who's who of Teen Beat/National Enquirer coverkids, but also proved this "source" as the biggest steaming pile of bullshit I've ever smelled on the IMDB (& that says a lot). I'll see if I can find the link so I can post it. It's a real groaner. Shia LaBeouf & shit :brow:
Williamson to Pen New Scream Trilogy? (http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/30539/williamson-pen-new-scream-trilogy#comments)
All right, this is just weird but it’s one of those things that I feel like if we ignore, we’ll be the only ones not talking about it. A scooper dropped us a line today with intel that Kevin Williamson is on board to write not just one, but three new Scream films, rebooting the franchise with a whole new trilogy.
How do they know this? Via a pop-up window that appeared on the William Morris intranet, it seems.
RopeofSilicon (http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/article/has-kevin-williamson-officially-signed-on-for-a-new-scream-trilogy) has the best look at the image. What it says:
We're excited to announce that we've closed a deal for KEVIN WILLIAMSON with The Weinstein Company to recreate the SCREAM franchise as a new trilogy in SCREAM 4, 5 and 6.
The Dream Master
02-24-2009, 06:20 PM
Very interesting. Seems to me that's probably the best way to go--plan stuff out instead of haphazardly just making sequels on the fly. Then again, if it's supposed to parody/satirize slashers, they should probably do the latter. ;)
Jason3000
03-03-2009, 09:57 AM
I think it would be amazing if they killed off Sydney Prescott in the opening 15 minutes. It's been 10 years of silence in her life and this would definitely catch her off guard, which would result in her death. Then Dewey and Gale are immediately contacted once they hear about her death and they can be involved in the new plot with the new characters.
Part 3 starred Patrick Dempsey as well, i wonder if he would ever return.
"McDreamy"....pfft...he's got better things to do:shifty:
Jimmy Conway
03-31-2009, 06:05 AM
From Horrormovies.ca:
Remember when Wes Craven had dinner with Neve Campbell and was trying to put together a Scream 4? You dont heres a requote from an earlier news item, We said, quote:
"I had a lunch with Neve [Campbell] where she told me Dimension Film offered her to reprise her role in Scream 4. I was totally surprised because nobody has ever mentioned such a project to me. But as far as I'm concerned, I don't think it would be a wise decision to do a 4th Scream. First because I think everything has already been told within the first three movies and I don't want to make the one more that would be the wrong one. And second because Dimension won't really be interested in contacting me right now just after the troubles we had on Cursed."
As much as I could care less for Scream 4 I am sure it has its fans and today the weinsteins announced it is coming. Quote:
Just in time for Halloween, we have some major horror movie news for fans of the popular Scream franchise. Scream 4 has been officially greenlit by the Weinstein Company, almost eight years after the last installment was released in theaters. No other details have been given out, other than the official announcement from the Weinsteins:
"The Scream franchise has become a cult classic. Together, all three movies have grossed over $300 million at the box office, just in the United States alone. The fans have been asking for a 4th Scream movie for years and we're finally giving it to them. As far as details go, we're only in the planning stages and we may not get around to it [Scream 4] for quite some time, but rest assured, it will happen."
Will the original cast be returning? "We've just entered the planning stages of Scream 4. There isn't even a script right now. Only time will tell."
Who knows whether Neve Campbell will be back or not but Scream 4 is definitely happening.
I don't belive 99% of shit I read on the 'net, but it's actually legit. Not saying I want it to happen, but it's happening. Jamie Kennedy has even mentioned he'll be back (although I'm not sure how that's gonna work.)
Scream 4 = bad idea...period. Leave it alone. It's a trilogy.
Violent VictiM
03-31-2009, 06:50 AM
I'd give anything to be Melanie Jarvis' underwear when she reads this.
I agree it's a bad idea. The 3rd barely held my interest long enough for me to jack off to Courtney Cox. Barely...
Ahaha .. I'm down for another.
kramerfan
03-31-2009, 10:57 AM
WoW another scream.I only like 1 so wont bother here.
The Dream Master
03-31-2009, 04:56 PM
Guys, that article is old...nearly 2 years old I think. The news that Cody last posted a few posts up is the most current. In other words, it's really no more definite now than it has been for the past couple of months.
ChildrenoftheDamned
03-31-2009, 05:13 PM
Scream 4 = bad idea...period. Leave it alone. It's a trilogy.
I agree.
I actually enjoyed all three of them. I like the fact that it's a trilogy and that's what it should stay. If I remember correctly it was supposedly planned to be a trilogy in the beginning anyway.
I don't think there's much to milk for a new sequel or trilogy of new films or anything like that, anyway.
I liked the original Scream, didn't like the others in the series though.
I think for part 4 they should go with the Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back idea: Shannon Doherty and a monkey.
HalloweenHorror
03-31-2009, 06:02 PM
I'm always for more... I just hope they don't f*ck it up! If Saw can spawn 5 sequels, then why can't Scream.
Hoody
03-31-2009, 08:00 PM
Because the Scream series has dignity and no crack hoes?
Because the Scream series has dignity and no crack hoes?
QFT.
Like I said before, if they do a 4th movie, it shouldn't wind up being like Halloween: Resurrection where the main character gets killed off 5 minutes into the movie and they go on with a bran-new cast. It should be Randy (Jamie Kennedy's character) as the killer because of his obsession with Sidney, not some 2-bit new character who has no motive.
El Rooto
04-02-2009, 11:19 PM
Randy dead. :(
ChildrenoftheDamned
04-03-2009, 10:49 PM
Like I said before, if they do a 4th movie, it shouldn't wind up being like Halloween: Resurrection where the main character gets killed off 5 minutes into the movie and they go on with a bran-new cast. It should be Randy (Jamie Kennedy's character) as the killer because of his obsession with Sidney, not some 2-bit new character who has no motive.
I agree that if they're to make a fourth installment it should definitely not be some new character that has basically no connection to the series' characters and pretty much comes out of no where.
But personally I think they should leave Randy dead. As much as I liked his character and enjoyed the cameo in the 3rd via videotape, i think it would just screw with things to much to go "Oh, yeah, uhh... Randy's not dead... Gotcha bitch!" And then try to explain why he's dead.
But then I also don't see any of the other surviving characters being the killer either...
All in all I think the series is fine like it is...
Because the Scream series has dignity and no crack hoes?
Ha ha ha! I like that! Never really was one for the Saw movies...
i am SAW
06-03-2009, 10:26 PM
no more sequal? a remake?
http://www.fangoriaonline.com/home/news/9-film-news/2724-scream-iv-looks-to-the-past.html
Everything old in Hollywood is becoming new again..." says Entertainment Weekly, and they preach the Gospel on this one.
Back in February we told you about a "new SCREAM TRILOGY" to be penned by series creator Kevin Williamson. Now, the "new" SCREAM is being called a "reboot" according to ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY. But a reboot with the original cast?
Not quite right, as the plans point to further sequels as opposed to a remake, but EW says they've "learned exclusively that Williamson has approached Courteney Cox Arquette and David Arquette to return. Deals have yet to be signed, however, as all involved try to hammer out potential scheduling conflicts that could arise now that Courteney Cox Arquette's pilot Cougar Town was picked up by ABC. (Agents for the actors have yet to return EW's request for comment.) No word on whether Neve Campbell's character, among others, will make the cut."
The Dream Master
06-03-2009, 10:40 PM
Obviously, it's not gonna be a remake if the Arquettes are involved, unless they're just gonna re-use the same characters and actors. Somehow, I doubt it. I'm gonna guess reboot in this case means a continuation that has very little to do with the first three outside of a few characters. So, basically, a sequel.
Bill 1981
06-03-2009, 10:42 PM
Rebooting a 13yr old movie? Weak.
The Dream Master
06-03-2009, 10:46 PM
I think it's really just a better way of saying something's a sequel in name only. I think a good comparison would be the American Pie DTV sequels which had little to do with the theatrical films (as I understand it) outside of Jim's dad returning. I think it'll be the same thing here if this happens. There might be some lip service paid to the first three, but they aren't going to bog it down in continuity and tie it directly to them so as to be accessible to new viewers, or at least that's what I'm speculating.
"Reboot" = trendy way of saying "sequel after 10 years of franchise dormancy".
jasonlives13
06-04-2009, 11:51 AM
Why won't they leave anything alone, this is even worse then a remake of commando
Scarecrow
06-04-2009, 03:41 PM
Still say a "reboot" Scream would be great if it follows continutiy and is *about* remakes, with discussions of remake,s as Scream 2 tackled sequels. COme on Williamson, I have faith!
- Scarecrow
Joshg
06-04-2009, 09:03 PM
If this is a remake I will scream. How ridiculous and lame it would be to do that to a film 13 years old. Of course it has happened before. But I mean, next year it will be 7 years since the Texas remake, so what will happen then? Remake the remakes? This has got to stop. People say don't worry about remakes, but I say DO worry about remakes. If it continues in a never-ending cycle we will rarely see a new horror - just a rip off. New stories! New stories!
Still say a "reboot" Scream would be great if it follows continutiy and is *about* remakes, with discussions of remake,s as Scream 2 tackled sequels. COme on Williamson, I have faith!
- Scarecrow
I agree. That's the route I've always thought they would take.
Jus-X
06-05-2009, 12:50 AM
Hollywood needs some better fuckin ideas. Everything's getting remade, fucking getting on my nerves.
Jason_Legend
06-05-2009, 01:42 AM
It's kind of hard to believe Scream 3 will be 10 years old next year.
Geez, I remember talking about Scream 3 with my best friend in high school.
Geez, I remember talking about Scream 3 with my best friend in high school.
Same here.
I think we've had a nice break from the Scream films.
The Dream Master
06-08-2009, 11:05 PM
Dread Central Updates: (http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/32054/wes-craven-talks-scream-sequels)
Just a few days ago we let you guys know about Kevin Williamson's new Scream trilogy that's being readied. Today the master himself, Wes Craven, sheds some more light!
Digital Spy nailed down the exclusive interview with the famed director, who had some really interesting things to say:
"Bob Weinstein (The Weinstein Company co-chairman) has talked to me, he's interested in me directing it. I had a brief conversation with Kevin [Williamson], I know that Kevin is writing. What I've said to Bob is I'm not closed to it, I'm not open to it, I'll be perfectly happy to read a script and tell him what I think. That's where it's at and I'm not expecting a script until August. I don't know what the premise is or anything," Craven tells the site.
"I don't think it's a reboot and Kevin, when he talked to me, said, 'Remember, it's not just Scream 4, it's Scream 5 and 6.' So I guess he has a trilogy in mind," Craven continues. "I've been told, and I don't think they'll mind if I say this, the deals on David Arquette and Courteney are virtually set. I believe everybody else will be new."
Interesting. Stay tuned.
So another trilogy, eh? I'd watch a fourth, but I don't know if I could sit through any more than that.
michaelleefinnie
06-09-2009, 02:30 AM
a while back on the internet i heard that they might kill of the leads, you know sidney, dewey, and the reporter that i forgot her name, and i DON'T want that to happen!
Kevin Williamson is Twittering (http://twitter.com/kevwilliamson) his way through the script and Neve Campbell's rejection.
It is a sequel. Scream 4. The first chapter of a new trilogy.
Come on Sid! Say yes! Please!!!!!! I'm begging!!!!!
Trying to figure out a Sid-less scenario. She won't do it. This sucks.
Moving forward with all my characters regardless...it's the story I wanna tell.
Working on S4. Have completely spooked myself. Think there's a killer in every closet. Never sleep now. Ugh.
Checked every closet. I'm such an idiot.
He later deleted the "She won't do it. This sucks." message.
The Dream Master
06-19-2009, 07:13 AM
Maybe Neve realized she hasn't done much of consequence since the first trilogy ended and has reconsidered. :X
Just Jeans
06-19-2009, 07:29 PM
Neve Campbell still exists? Well, fuck me... :X
Notti
06-19-2009, 07:42 PM
Last I heard from her, she took her clothes off in a few movies.
Jus-X
06-19-2009, 08:34 PM
... Well, fuck me... :X
Uuuuuummmmm.... no.
Just Jeans
06-19-2009, 08:37 PM
Uuuuuummmmm.... no.
Not even a quick one?
You people are no fun.
sam hane
06-19-2009, 08:45 PM
Last I heard from her, she took her clothes off in a few movies.
In my experience, seeing the nudity is oft times better than hearing it ;) :D
Jus-X
06-19-2009, 08:50 PM
In my experience, seeing the nudity is oft times better than hearing it ;) :D
Yeah I feel the same. In NOES1 you here the "Ohhhh. Ahhhh. Oh God! Oh God! Oh God! Ahhhhhh." but you don't see shit!!!
Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of seeing some skin, but I think sometimes it's more effective to not show nudity in a film and leave a little something to the viewers imagination.
Jus-X
06-19-2009, 10:23 PM
I have no imagination.
Notti
06-19-2009, 10:25 PM
I'm older than 15 years old so I don't really care if I see nudity in movies or not.
The Dark Vampire
06-19-2009, 10:28 PM
I hate any kind of nudity in movies TBH I just don't think it's needed at all
Yeah I feel the same. In NOES1 you here the "Ohhhh. Ahhhh. Oh God! Oh God! Oh God! Ahhhhhh." but you don't see shit!!!
I think that had a lot to do with Tina was only supposed to be 15-16 so they couldn't show anything TBH I'm shocked they got away with as much as they did taking that into consideration
I have no imagination.
Well played sir.
Darth Sinister
06-19-2009, 10:49 PM
Hollywood needs some better fuckin ideas. Everything's getting remade, fucking getting on my nerves.
It's not a lack of ideas. It's playing it safe with established names, rather than coming up with something new.
Jus-X
06-19-2009, 10:50 PM
I think that had a lot to do with Tina was only supposed to be 15-16 so they couldn't show anything TBH I'm shocked they got away with as much as they did taking that into consideration
You could be right. I don't know what the censors would have allowed in 84. But I do know in Last House on the left, homegirl potrayed 17 and bared her boobies. In Halloween (78) Judith and Linda potrayed 17 and bared boobies. I know for a fact the actress potraying Tina in NOES was much older than the age she portrayed, so I don't know if anything changed since then, but I always laugh at that scene because it just sounds like a bad porn film, which isn't how real sex sounds. Even the dude was getting loud.
But back to nudity, I dont' mind nudity in a film, but the sex scenes are what I see is unnecessary(?typo?). I don't mind if people are covered and pretending, but when it becomes a soft porn flick, to me it has no reason to be in a horror movie. But boobs and ass are totally necessary(?), it's gives you the sense that it's real. People get naked in reality. They go skinny dipping or chunky dunking, or whatever. To me that's what's real because people do that. Sex on the otherhand, it's just overdone in the horror industry, and what they're putting in the horror movies now, there's no point whatsoever to have it.
Tweeter's remorse (http://blogs.nypost.com/popwrap/archives/2009/06/neve_campbell_says_no_to_scream_4.html)
Kevin Williamson sent PopWrap the following email in reaction to this story:
"I've had numerous conversations with Neve. She's a friend. Nicest girl on the planet. It just ain't workin' out and it sucks for me. It was no cameo. I'd never play Sid out that way. :) And I ain't got no Sid-less scenario. So, I don't know yet what to do. Hate all the wrong info circulating. My fault. There's a learning curve with Twitter. I gotta watch it. :)kev"
Notti
06-21-2009, 12:29 AM
I hate any kind of nudity in movies TBH I just don't think it's needed at all
I don't hate it but I don't really care if it's there either. I'm just indifferent towards it, I guess.
Bill 1981
06-21-2009, 12:51 AM
Female Nudity = No problem whatsoever.
Male Nudity = Seeing a 50ft man ass/junk onscreen kills any future film enjoyment.
At least that's how I see it.
Notti
06-21-2009, 12:59 AM
Male Nudity = Seeing a 50ft man ass/junk onscreen kills any future film enjoyment.
I'm not too keen on that myself either. I don't want or need to see any of that.
Female Nudity = No problem whatsoever.
Male Nudity = Seeing a 50ft man ass/junk onscreen kills any future film enjoyment.
At least that's how I see it.
I'm not too keen on that myself either. I don't want or need to see any of that.
IMO, Female nudity: Pointless.
I don't mind an ass shot or two as long as it's actually relevant to the story, but if I want to see a pair of tits, I'd look in the mirror.
Back to the point of the thread though, I wonder if Neve Campbell changed her mind or if Kevin Williamson just realized that any info he posts about the movie will be spread all over the internet as a "direct quote" in a matter of minutes.
Just Jeans
06-21-2009, 01:18 PM
...if I want to see a pair of tits, I'd look in the mirror.
Me too. :X
Jason3000
06-22-2009, 09:47 AM
I don't understand why Neve Campbell would turn it down. It's not like he's asking her to play the lead. I had always imagined that if the series was ever picked up again after so many years, the opening scene would play out in the similar style to the original movie with Drew Barrymore. Sidney Prescott would get killed off in the first 15 minutes, and then the movie begins and Duey and Gale are called up again. That would be the ideal scenario. If she really doesn't want to be a part of it, then she could at least pay debt like how Jamie Lee Curtis did and just kill off her character and be done with it! Why Neve?
kramerfan
06-22-2009, 10:30 AM
I could of sworn i saw a new tv series coming and it had Neve in it.
Darth Sinister
06-23-2009, 09:10 PM
I think that in the end, she decided it wasn't worth it. Not enough money and not enough desire to do another film. It doesn't matter if she doesn't have anything major going on, if you don't feel like doing something, then you shouldn't do it.
The Dream Master
07-15-2009, 05:10 AM
Arquettes Confirmed (http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/marc_malkin/b134032_its_official_david_courteney_will.html)
It's official! David Arquette and Courteney Cox have signed on to reunite with the Ghostface killer.
"We are going to be doing Scream 4," Arquette just told me from New York City, where he's hanging out in plastic box over Madison Square Garden for Feeding America (more on that later). "Kevin Williamson is writing the script at this moment, and hopefully Wes Craven is going to direct."
In the original horror trilogy, Arquette played Deputy Dewey Riley with Cox as a tabloid television reporter Gale Weathers.
Rumors began several months ago that the two were in talks for the fourth installment.
"I fell in love with my wife on Scream, so the opportunity to bring [Dewey] back to life and for my wife to play that really bitchy character again, it's just going to be really fun," Arquette said. "It's just great."
While Williamson recently revealed that Neve Campbell has turned down the chance to reprise her role as Sidney Prescott, Arquette said, "I hope Neve does it. I really hope so."
As for a new storyline, Arquette laughed: "Kevin has sort of put out the broad strokes, but I don't think I'm at liberty to share any of that."
jasonlives13
07-15-2009, 10:31 AM
I didnt want to see a fourth one, but now I can tell a certain few people "In your face" I always said when the third one come out, there would be a fourth and in school they hounded me for it, now I can feel like a smart arse haha
Notti
07-15-2009, 02:04 PM
Nice to see former WCW Heavyweight Champion David Arquette on board.
Jus-X
07-15-2009, 08:07 PM
I personally think Neve's over this, and I don't think they're gonna recast her. So more than likely I'm guessing there will be no Sidney character, unless they make her the killer and CG Neve's face on a stand-in after the killer is dead and unmasked. I heard a rumour that they wanted to make her the killer in part 3, and that she was shcizo hearing the voices over the phone, but still being the killer.
That would have been one crazy ass twist.
jasonlives13
07-16-2009, 06:33 PM
Nice to see former WCW Heavyweight Champion David Arquette on board.
LMAO HAHAHAHAHA :lmao: ive never laughed so hard
Sean [The Wildcard]
07-17-2009, 04:31 AM
I'm wondering how this will inevitably turn out.
Namely because since the original franchise came out...we've seen countless other Horror films treading that territory to the point of "been there done that."
What will the 4th installment bring to the table. How much originality is there left? Williamson definitely needs to pull something terrific off so that it doesn't end up as the same old song and dance.
Just Jeans
07-17-2009, 07:57 AM
I really hope Williamson has the good sense to play up on the remake boom. I'd like for the killer -- whoever it is -- to be motivated by a desire to "remake" the events of the first film. That could explain why there's a new Main Girl if Sydney isn't back.
Jus-X
07-17-2009, 05:55 PM
I think you might have something Ed. The first Scream was set upon the "rules" of a horror movie and threw them in the faces of the watchers. The second Scream was set upon the "rules" of horror sequels, and the third about "Trilogys." It would be great with all the remakes/ reboots that are going around, that the killer of part 4 set his intentions on "rules" of the reboots/ remakes.
Notti
07-17-2009, 06:20 PM
I think that would be the most logical route to go. It'd be something I'm interested in too.
Unfortunately I'm not sure they'll be that cleaver.
We can always hope, though.
Special Killa B
07-17-2009, 10:30 PM
Nice to see former WCW Heavyweight Champion David Arquette on board.
Somewhere within WWE Headquarters Vince McMahon just got a boner. Wrestlemania 26 John Cena vs Triple H vs WWE World Champ David Arquette.
It'll sell millions I tell's ya! :D
Notti
07-18-2009, 12:04 AM
Somewhere within WWE Headquarters Vince McMahon just got a boner. Wrestlemania 26 John Cena vs Triple H vs WWE World Champ David Arquette.
It'll sell millions I tell's ya! :D
Vince is reading your post & is in talks to book this match! :D
I really hope Williamson has the good sense to play up on the remake boom. I'd like for the killer -- whoever it is -- to be motivated by a desire to "remake" the events of the first film. That could explain why there's a new Main Girl if Sydney isn't back.
I keep thinking that this is exactly what they will do.
I heard a rumour that they wanted to make her the killer in part 3, and that she was shcizo hearing the voices over the phone, but still being the killer.
Christopher Pike did that in his book The Babysitter 3, so if they tried that this time it still wouldn't be an original idea.
Sean [The Wildcard]
07-23-2009, 01:51 AM
I doubt this is real, but...: (http://sequelbuzz.blogspot.com/2009/07/possible-scream-4-logo-leak.html)
I find this a bit funny -- Platinum Dunes unveils their title logo for the A Nightmare On Elm Street remake, and literally hours later, one for Scream 4 surfaces. Could this possibly be Wes Craven's way of getting back at PD for touching his baby? Who knows, really. Although, I find the S4 logo to be a little more enticing. As for the ANOES one, we've seen that done a hundred times before...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y180/nickmeece/thrillerwes-scream4-2.jpg
Just Jeans
07-23-2009, 05:54 AM
Could this possibly be Wes Craven's way of getting back at PD for touching his baby?
It seems like lately the only time he gives a damn about the Nightmare franchise is when it stirs up a bit of free publicity. They never could have tempted him back to it.
Sean [The Wildcard]
07-26-2009, 06:52 PM
Neve Campbell officially talks Scream 4 (http://sequelbuzz.blogspot.com/2009/07/neve-campbell-officially-talks-scream-4.html)
The UK Press caught up with Neve Campbell on the red carpet, and of course, Scream 4 was brought up. Could Neve still be in talks to do the flick?
Neve Campbell has revealed that she could be involved in the next Scream film.
The actress, best known for her role as Sidney Prescott in the horror franchise, said Scream 4 is on the cards.
"Well they're gonna make it and they're trying to get me in," she said. "We're in negotiations, we'll see."
The Dream Master
08-05-2009, 03:41 AM
Update (http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/32870/scream-4-update)
Kevin Wiliamson has gotten his priorities straight in terms of the new Scream films in relation to the rest of the stuff that he has going on in his busy, busy career.
In this latest interview with iF Magazine Williamson offered the following update for rabid fans to sink their teeth into:
“I’m going to finish the script in the next couple of months and then we’ll start the project,” Williamson tells iF. “It depends on the hiatus schedule and then we'll get in serious talks with [original trilogy director] Wes [Craven] and what his schedule is like. Then the VAMPIRE DIARIES -- I’m committed to this and I have another show at ABC that nobody knows about. That could come in and change everything.” So assuming everything goes as planned, we'll be seeing the return of Courteney Cox and David Arquette in a new Scream trilogy soon. Still no word on Neve Campbell's return, although reports have indicated she's waiting for "the right price."
More soon, including what Neve's price could be! Stay tuned!
jasonlives13
08-05-2009, 09:15 AM
I think she'll do it, if she's in negotations
The Dream Master
08-07-2009, 08:49 AM
Is Sid Dead? (http://www.imdb.com/news/ni0912893/)
Scream" creator Kevin Williamson is now working on a new trilogy that will pick up ten years after "Scream 3." He already signed Courtney Cox and David Arquette to return, but ran into a problem when Neve Campbell rejected his offer. "I ain't got no Sid-less scenario," he previously posted on his Twitter account. "I don't know yet what to do." One idea that he's now considering is to kill off Campbell's Sidney Prescott character. "[Scream 4] is gonna sort of involve our returning characters . the only characters left alive," he hinted to MTV News. "We've got Courteney Cox and David Arquette returning." His statement implies that Sidney has died sometime between "Scream 3" and "Scream 4." Her death will likely be somehow explained and then forgotten about for the rest of the new trilogy.
jasonlives13
08-07-2009, 09:01 AM
There making a whole new trilogy?!?!
Jus-X
08-07-2009, 06:06 PM
That's pretty idiotic. The whole scream series was about getting to Sidney Prescott pychologically, then physically. It was all about her. Take her out of the movie there's no reason they should exist! It's like Halloween Res... they took away Michael's family and it bombed.
Darth Sinister
08-07-2009, 07:49 PM
It would be a new character who is being stalked by a killer(s) who is copying the earlier killings.
Jus-X
08-07-2009, 08:46 PM
It would be a new character who is being stalked by a killer(s) who is copying the earlier killings.
I would buy that if the killer based his motives on horror movie reboots/remakes like each movie did. Part 1 was horror movies. Part 2 was horror movie sequels, Part 3 was trilogies. So if the killer of 4 was following Reboots it could work.
But i doubt Willamson would be that smart. The only way it would work with a new victim would be if a survivor from the previous 3 movies became the killer. Even that woud be a little off.
The truth is, taking Sidney out of the series would be like taking Indy out of Indiana Jones. She's been the heroine of all the movies, without her there's no reason for a killer to take up the ghostface mask.
The Dream Master
08-07-2009, 09:09 PM
I'm willing to give it a shot without Sidney. We've got at least two people from the previous three coming back, so there's going to be a connection there. The thing about slashers is that their biggest franchises were known for going on forever, even when it seemed like there wasn't a reason for them too. It never made sense for it to be a trilogy because how many slasher trilogies have there been? The SPM series is the only one I can think of.
Brett H.
08-07-2009, 09:16 PM
I always thought the supporting characters always outshone Ms. Prescott. Especially her whore mother.
Jus-X
08-07-2009, 09:43 PM
I'm willing to give it a shot without Sidney. We've got at least two people from the previous three coming back, so there's going to be a connection there. The thing about slashers is that their biggest franchises were known for going on forever, even when it seemed like there wasn't a reason for them too. It never made sense for it to be a trilogy because how many slasher trilogies have there been? The SPM series is the only one I can think of.
Okay, but Sidney was the one everyone was trying to kill. Dwey and Gale are collateral damage. Look at it this way. If we had the Halloween series over the course of five years, all having Laurie Stode as the main character/ victim/ antagonist, and then kill her off by means other than murder and put someone else in the spotlight, that wouldn't make sense.
Okay, a better analogy. If Nightmare 2 had Nancy instead of Jesse, and gave us Nancy in 1, 2, and 3... alive to the end in every movie, to kill her off in a car accident and pass the tourch of to Kristen, people wouldn't get it. They'd be like, what the fuck, where's my favorite character, she lived through the last movie with these people, and now all we have are these people with no Nancy.
That's why I don't think it would work
The Dream Master
08-07-2009, 09:49 PM
Okay, but Sidney was the one everyone was trying to kill. Dwey and Gale are collateral damage. Look at it this way. If we had the Halloween series over the course of five years, all having Laurie Stode as the main character/ victim/ antagonist, and then kill her off by means other than murder and put someone else in the spotlight, that wouldn't make sense.
Well, it was only two movies, but Laurie was the main character, only to be killed off between installments, and it worked just fine. Plus, Alice just dropped off the face of the earth between Elm Street 5 and 6. Same with Tommy Jarvis: he was there for three entries and hasn't been heard from in the 6 movies since then. Hell, Saw killed off its two villains THREE movies ago, and it's doing fine. The difference with Scream is that it just hasn't happened yet. If it goes on to have six movies, I'm sure it'll be no different than all the other long-running horror series that had different characters throughout.
Brett H.
08-07-2009, 09:52 PM
Not to mention Kristen was played by different people in 3/4. They could recast if they wanted the character that bad. I don't see where the fuck else they'd go with her, though. Scream 3 jumped the shark big time.
I doubt they'll kill her off though. She may want a paycheque when her career drops even more. :X
The Dream Master
08-07-2009, 09:54 PM
I'm sure Williamson is keeping the "she faked her death and assumed a new identity to protect herself" card in his back pocket in case Campbell wants to get involved with 5 and 6. :X
Brett H.
08-07-2009, 09:56 PM
They should have the bitch go recluse Hughes style. Everytime she meets someone, they end up murdered or murdering, anyways. Jebuz.
But when you have former WCW Champion David Arquette on your side, I guess you are just that much more cocksure.
Jus-X
08-07-2009, 10:51 PM
Well, it was only two movies, but Laurie was the main character, only to be killed off between installments, and it worked just fine. Plus, Alice just dropped off the face of the earth between Elm Street 5 and 6. Same with Tommy Jarvis: he was there for three entries and hasn't been heard from in the 6 movies since then. Hell, Saw killed off its two villains THREE movies ago, and it's doing fine. The difference with Scream is that it just hasn't happened yet. If it goes on to have six movies, I'm sure it'll be no different than all the other long-running horror series that had different characters throughout.
I guess you're not understanding my point of view. Laurie died, yes, but the killer didn't. The killer had motive to go after his blood line. If Laurie however survived the whole series and was killed off not by the protagonist, but by any other means, it would ruin the whole movie.
If Tommy went from part 2 to part 6, only to get hit by a car before 7 happened, that would piss everyone off!
My point in Neve was there for the whole series. THE WHOLE SERIES! Yeah, three movies, but the movie was about her, and new people finding reasons to kill her. Now it's a new killer going after someone for whatever reason and has nothing to do with the other movies, other than Gale and Dewey
I'm sure Williamson is keeping the "she faked her death and assumed a new identity to protect herself" card in his back pocket in case Campbell wants to get involved with 5 and 6. :X
Which is still lame because there shouldn't be a part 4 without her!!! It will be a fucking Halloween Resurrection. No reason to fucking kill anyone, you're just doing it because you're paid to do it!!! What did Dewey and Gale do to you? Write a book about you and didn't pay you?
Not to mention Kristen was played by different people in 3/4. They could recast if they wanted the character that bad. I'd rather have her recast and said she got plastic surgery than not have her at all.
The Dream Master
08-08-2009, 01:38 AM
Which is still lame because there shouldn't be a part 4 without her!!! It will be a fucking Halloween Resurrection. No reason to fucking kill anyone, you're just doing it because you're paid to do it!!! What did Dewey and Gale do to you? Write a book about you and didn't pay you?
Well maybe we should wait and see what ideas they've got kicking around first. I'm not saying that whatever Williamson turns out will be gold, but I'm not about to write off the possibility of a third sequel in a slasher franchise because one of the protagonists isn't coming back. Even though the killers behind the mask died, the Ghostface persona could go on to carry the franchise like other slashers. Like I said, the main two antagonists in the Saw series have been dead, yet the series continues.
As for H:R, why didn't Michael have any reason to kill anyone? Last I heard, crossing The Shape was reason enough. :X Granted, I agree that H:R was the first time the series had a movie that was basically "Michael kills random teens," but I think we had to expect that to happen sometime.
Darth Sinister
08-08-2009, 07:12 PM
As far as we know, pretty much everyone involved in the death of Sidney's mother is dead. So unless they have Sid's father go nuts or we hear from Mr. Loomis, there's no one else. A simple change like the killer is targeting a new girl and Gail and Dewey see the patterns can work. Remember, the killers changed all the time in "Scream".
Jus-X
08-09-2009, 07:13 AM
You know, Sid's father being the killer in the film would work if they killed her character off. I could go with that.
Deathscythe
08-09-2009, 07:19 AM
I just watched the original film again, it still holds up as a good film. Maybe I'll watch the sequels again tomorrow.
The Dream Master
08-10-2009, 06:53 PM
Cox Talks Scream 4 (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=57892)
SCI FI Wire talked to Courteney Cox about returning as TV reporter Gale Weathers in Kevin Williamson's Scream 4.
"She has a kid now," Cox said while promoting her new ABC show "Cougar Town." "She's married to Dewey."
Williamson has said that the fourth film will be the beginning of a new trilogy, but Cox has no trepidations about beginning another three films. "No, because [I take things] one day at a time," she said. "But I heard the idea for 'Scream 4,' and it's fantastic."'
I'm gonna go ahead and guess that Dewey and Gale's kid is the killer, and he set up everything in the original trilogy while he was in the womb. Yep.
Just Jeans
08-10-2009, 09:10 PM
I doubt they'll kill her off though.
This is a horror franchise we're talking about, mang. They'll kill her off in this one, and in the next they'll reveal she faked her death or some shit.
Jus-X
08-10-2009, 10:19 PM
I've still wanted to see an installment where Sidney is the killer and all the calls she received from the killer was in her head. That after years being attacked finally tore down her reality, and have her go Pam Voorhees on everyone. That's what I though happened in 3 when she heard her own voice on the other line... but no... it was a voice synthesizer thingee.
In regards to DM's comment about the son/daughter as the killer, that sounds like a good idea. But of course the ending won't be given away... so they gotta produce a sweet ass story plot and a bomb trailor for me to pay $13 to go see a sequel with no Sidney.
The Dark Vampire
08-10-2009, 10:44 PM
I wouldn't be at all shocked if at the ending the killer turned out to be Sid.
If not it still wouldn't shock me if the killer had some connection to 1 or all 3 of the original movies or a connection to Sid maybe another long lost sibling
On that point I swaer I worked that out in part 3 before even seeing it I don't know why but my 1st thought and I couldn't shake it was "I bet it turns out it was her brother or something and he was in from the very start"
Violent VictiM
08-10-2009, 10:53 PM
But when you have former WCW Champion David Arquette on your side, I guess you are just that much more cocksure.
Hah! :rofl:
I'm down for whatever. We haven't had a Scream flick in quite sometime so whatever they throw my way I'm fine with. As long as they don't try to keep the whole 90s atmosphere of slashers I'll be straight. It's 2009, bring the gore.
Jus-X
08-10-2009, 11:13 PM
I wouldn't be at all shocked if at the ending the killer turned out to be Sid.
If not it still wouldn't shock me if the killer had some connection to 1 or all 3 of the original movies or a connection to Sid maybe another long lost sibling
On that point I swaer I worked that out in part 3 before even seeing it I don't know why but my 1st thought and I couldn't shake it was "I bet it turns out it was her brother or something and he was in from the very start"
Jamie Kennedy!!! He should be the killer!!!
"Everyone made fun of me Gale!!! Everyone!!!! They said I didn't know shit about movies!!! But I showed all of you! I know my shit!!!"
Spook
08-11-2009, 02:45 AM
I'm a sucker for the Scream series. The first is obviously the best, but I really enjoyed the sequels (2 more so than 3). I'm down for a Scream 4, as long as Craven comes back. I don't give two shits whether Neve Campbell comes back (which I don't see why she wouldn't. She hardly has a career going for her since Scream 3). I think it would be interesting if they poked at the current remake trend. It could be fun.
andrew8798
09-25-2009, 03:43 AM
Variety announces that Dimension will have Scream 4 in production by April or May of next year, with Wes Craven in talks to direct from Kevin Willliamson's script. And despite numerous rumors, Neve Campbell is attached to star alongside the Arquettes.
http://weblogs.variety.com/bfdealmemo/2009/09/dimension-unveils-scary-new-slate-.html
I am in SHOCK that they are actually going ahead with Scream 4. I never thought it would actually happen. Scream was one of the most successful horror franchises in history, and it seems kind of convenient. It almost seems like they were just saving Scream for when their company gets into financial trouble, and now that Dimension is almost backrupt, make a Scream and make a shit load of money and put the company back on track. It's a smart move.
The reason I am actually going to watch it is because it is being directed by Wes Craven and written by Williamson, and will star Neve Campbell, Cox, and Arqette. It will have the original cast and crew so it will provide with story line continuity.
I was never a huge fan of the Scream (and I hated I Know What You did) films, but since they are actually doing this the right way, I'll give it a view.
sooners4life98
09-25-2009, 04:47 PM
I will give this a go too. I never had any beef the Scream series and will be looking forward to this.
Jus-X
09-25-2009, 06:46 PM
Atleast Neve's back
Andiac
09-25-2009, 08:54 PM
The reason I am actually going to watch it is because it is being directed by Wes Craven and written by Williamson, and will star Neve Campbell, Cox, and Arqette. It will have the original cast and crew so it will provide with story line continuity.
Although I am not in shock and quite happy to have a Scream 4, I agree completely. I am, however, only happy that it's Williamson writing with Craven potentially to direct and the original stars. It means true continuity. Even a new director could handle the film and it would still be okay because it's the same writer. However I'd like to see Craven directing.
If the three main actors are back for sure then that's also awesome. Scream is my favourite horror film from the 90s, and to have a proper sequel and not a cash in or an in name only sequel means it should be good.
I enjoyed Scream 3, and I know Williamson had a bit to do with the story, but it will be good to see another Williamson scripted Scream.
Didn't Wes Craven say a while back that he would have no involvement with another Scream film. I could have sworn I read it around here somewhere...
Alex DeLarge
09-26-2009, 04:06 AM
Granted, I agree that H:R was the first time the series had a movie that was basically "Michael kills random teens," but I think we had to expect that to happen sometime.
The first?:p Of course, LATER, they brought in the sister bullshit, but when people went to see Halloween for the first time, he had no rhyme, no reason.
The Dream Master
09-26-2009, 04:15 AM
The first?:p Of course, LATER, they brought in the sister bullshit, but when people went to see Halloween for the first time, he had no rhyme, no reason.
Well, you also had Loomis in the first one, which kept it from being a typical slasher/body count movie and separated it from the hordes of imitators that came after it.
The way I see Resurrection is that with the absense of the family story line after he killed Laurie, Michael finally went back to being just the boogey man. With no motivation, Michael is a much scarier character.
Alex DeLarge
09-26-2009, 11:00 PM
Well, you also had Loomis in the first one, which kept it from being a typical slasher/body count movie and separated it from the hordes of imitators that came after it.
While that is true, Loomis was actually quite a small part. He's not really the actual nemesis role that he would be later; he pretty much wanders around, explains Michael to the audience and then only comes in and saves the day at the last minute. He's a walking equivalent of the campfire story in F13 or whatever. For the most part, it's still basically "Michael kills teens."
The Dream Master
09-27-2009, 04:22 AM
The way I see Resurrection is that with the absense of the family story line after he killed Laurie, Michael finally went back to being just the boogey man. With no motivation, Michael is a much scarier character.
He had plenty of motivation--he had to kill those trespassers in his house. :X
While that is true, Loomis was actually quite a small part. He's not really the actual nemesis role that he would be later; he pretty much wanders around, explains Michael to the audience and then only comes in and saves the day at the last minute. He's a walking equivalent of the campfire story in F13 or whatever. For the most part, it's still basically "Michael kills teens."
Still not totally what I mean--yes, the movie features Michael randomly stalking and killing teens, but it's not a body count/splatter movie like many of the films it inspired (and even its own sequels) became. So really, the style of the first one separates it from the rest, I guess I should say. And 2-H20 all had splatter/body count elements, but the plots were revolving around more than just random kids. H8 had neither the style nor the focused plot. That was quite long-winded, I know. :p
Sean [The Wildcard]
09-27-2009, 10:53 AM
As for Neve coming back, I think that's great news.
Given the fact that I feel that they should have left the series off as a trilogy, I am really interested in where Williamson is taking this new trilogy for the SCREAM series. Hopefully it's staying true and respectful to the franchise as a whole...so much so that Wes definitely comes back. :D
Just Jeans
09-27-2009, 07:28 PM
I'll eat my hat if the killer in this film isn't trying to "remake" the original killings.
I think the whole remake idea is the only logical direction for the series to go
Lankenfurter
09-27-2009, 07:59 PM
maybe the monkey from jay and silent bob scream movie will be the killer! seriously though that is an interesting way to put the series on a remake spin. make a copycat killer trying to remake the first massacre. but wasnt scream 3 about a movie? i dont remember. the first one was the only good one., saw it last night actually.
Darth Sinister
09-28-2009, 11:21 PM
"Scream 3" was about a sequel to "Stab" being made and the killer attacking the cast members, with the killer being Sidney's half brother, who was directing said film. "Scream 4" having a killer or a group of killers remake Billy and Stu's bloody rampage makes sense thematically. The notion of Hollywood making a sequel several years later, like "Halloween H20", would also work. Possibly combined with the remake notion.
The 5th Golden Girl
09-29-2009, 12:29 AM
I'd like to see Dewey, Gail, and Sidney die in this one. They had their happy endings in part 3 and have had 10 years to be happy, so off them.
andrew8798
10-16-2009, 09:23 PM
What Does Craven Think of Scream 4?
Wes Craven's involvement in the next entry of the Scream franchise, he has said, is all contingent on the script Kevin Williamson turns in. The latter has been busy on The Vampire Diaries but is making time for the return of Ghostface with a new trilogy in mind.
Neve Campbell, David Arquette and Courteney Cox-Arquette are all slated to return.
This morning, via Twitter, Craven posted the following: "I had dinner with KW last night, and the script sounds fantastic!"
Well, alright. Note, he doesn't say he's read the script, but he's liking what he hears about it so far.
Currently, Craven's in the midst of finishing up 25/8. Following that, he doesn't have any official directing opportunities lined up, but he could be making room for Scream 4 which Dimension Films would like to start rolling next year.
http://www.shocktilyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=12329
Jus-X
10-16-2009, 10:28 PM
Well I think Craven's a good judge of film... can't wait to hear more.
In 3-D? (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/17812) Probably.
Some brief news comes in this evening as we've been tipped off that the Weinstein Company plans to shoot and release Scream IV in 3D.
It certainly wouldn't come as a surprise if they did decide to do this in 3-D. It seems to be the current trend.
Penhall
10-24-2009, 10:16 AM
As long as its not a remake and Wes Craven/Kevin Williamson return, I'm all for it.
Jus-X
10-24-2009, 06:04 PM
3D is getting on my nerves. And I'm sure Craven and Williamson will be there, and the story envolves remakes anyway.
The Dream Master
10-25-2009, 10:46 PM
Not in 3D After All? (http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/34195/terror-tweets-scream-4-update-pyun-posts-tales-rough-cuts-eclipse-nearly-wrapped)
Last week we noticed a few stories pop up regarding the possibility of Scream 4 being in 3D. Not having any confirmation, we waited to hear more, which everyone did when Scream writer Kevin Williamson debunked the rumor as follows: "What is this Scream 4 in 3D? First I heard of it." Then, an hour later came, "Guys? Really? 3D? Nahhhhh." Hopefully he won't be pressured into changing his tune. We have enough 3D projects floating around out there already, right?
Jus-X
10-25-2009, 11:02 PM
Thank goodness!!!
Just Jeans
10-25-2009, 11:30 PM
That's a real shame.
Apocalypto
10-26-2009, 02:02 AM
I'm inclined to side with Jeans in that if a film is meant to be entertaining, there's nothing wrong with it being in 3D. I wouldn't mind it becoming the norm. It doesn't make or break films, it just makes films look cooler.
The only films it doesn't work for are something like The Passion of the Christ, Schindler's List, Saving Private Ryan, etc...can't really picture that type of stuff in 3D.
Darth Sinister
10-26-2009, 07:47 PM
It can work in "Saving Private Ryan", especially the start of the film.
Just Jeans
10-26-2009, 09:03 PM
I reckon it can work in most films, provided the intention is to add a layer of depth rather than focus exclusively on cheap gags. As I've said before, my favorite thing about 3D films -- at least modern 3D films -- is the added depth it brings to the picture. I don't thin a film needs a ton of cheap at-the-screen gags to be a really good 3D feature.
Hockey Mask
10-27-2009, 12:36 AM
It can work in "Saving Private Ryan", especially the start of the film.
The last thing I need is a Nazi yo-yoing towards the camera. That is how they make 3-D movies, right?
Just Jeans
10-27-2009, 12:52 AM
The last thing I need is a Nazi yo-yoing towards the camera. That is how they make 3-D movies, right?
This isn't the 1980s. The process is a lot more sophisticated now. They could completely strip out the corny 3D gags and the films would still look spectacular.
Darth Sinister
10-27-2009, 07:47 PM
The last thing I need is a Nazi yo-yoing towards the camera. That is how they make 3-D movies, right?
You definately haven't watched a 3D film in the last couple of years. These days the gags is basically objects coming at you, but it looks a lot better than the red and blue/green era or what was done in the 80's as Jeans said. "Saving Private Ryan" would have body parts, bullets and dirt coming right at you. As well as the depth that was mentioned.
Hockey Mask
10-27-2009, 08:03 PM
It was a joke.
Williamson Gives Update (http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=12635)
Kevin Williamson teased earlier via his twitter page (http://twitter.com/kevwilliamson) that he's "writing" and that it's been a "late night". After a brief chat with MTV (http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1625406/story.jhtml), it's evident that he's hard at work completing the script for Scream 4, with the 5th chapter also on cue. (He tells MTV he's contractually obligated to Part 5 as well.)
We already know that stars Neve Campbell, Courteney Cox and David Arquette are all returning, and although director Wes Craven hasn't fully committed, he has expressed interest and excitement over Williamson's ideas. So, what can we expect from the next sequel?
"The fourth one is an ensemble. It'll take place right now, 10 years later, and it's going to take place in [Sidney Prescott's hometown of] Woodsboro. We'll have our three main characters, and we'll be introducing several more. We'll also be introducing a little group, a little ensemble of new cast members. That'll take us through the next three."
The Dream Master
11-04-2009, 04:18 AM
And 6th as well, since he mentions "the next three." I'm all for this shit to be honest. Surprised the reaction around the net seems to be so lukewarm.
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