Scream 4

[Westin]

If this movie has *anything* to do with Billy Loomis or with Sidney's mother, I'll be highly disappointed.

If they want to produce more Scream movies (and I hope they do so), they must introduce a new storyline.

[Apocalypto]

It's Billy's father

Were you at the screening, and you're being serious, or this is just your opinion?

[Jus-X]

If this movie has *anything* to do with Billy Loomis or with Sidney's mother, I'll be highly disappointed.

If they want to produce more Scream movies (and I hope them to do so), they must introduce a new storyline.

I'll agree with you on that, but what would you think about Sidney being the killer? Seriously. What if she went Anthony Perkins on us and develops a dual personality that kills Gale, Dewey, maybe even her dad?

I think it would be a great ending to her character if you ask me. She needs to die. It's time for her to definitly go.

I mean, Laurie Strode lasted three movies and died in the fourth one she appeared in. You know they're going to do the same since they're doing a third trilogy with new characters, the series always paid a homage to the horror movies we all know and love... having Sidney be the killer would be a nod to Psycho, Friday the 13th, and Identity.
ADDED:
Were you at the screening, and you're being serious, or this is just your opinion?

Hope it's option 3.

[Jason_Legend]

I don't know if Sidney being the killer could be pulled off, without ending up pretty cheesy.

[Hoody]

Were you at the screening, and you're being serious, or this is just your opinion?

No, I was just kidding around. The real killer is her sock puppet, Muffy.

[Cody]

Thanks, Hoody. You've ruined Scream 4. What's next on your agenda, telling kids there's no Easter Bunny?

[Westin]

Rumors of Sidney being the killer have existed for such a long time...

I think that having either Sidney or Gale being the kiler would be predictable

I am now officially out of this thread -- I am scared of spoilers!!!

[Hoody]

Scream 5: Revenge of Dewey's Mustache

[Jus-X]

I don't know if Sidney being the killer could be pulled off, without ending up pretty cheesy.
Well that's up to the dialogue and how it's being delivered.

there's no Easter Bunny?
What!?!?!:eek:

Scream 5: Revenge of Dewey's Mustache

I think you need to make that 5cream: The Return of Dewey's Stache.
Following that would be S6ream: The Revenge of Dewey's Stache.
You gotta follow the Halloween pattern there. :shifty:

[WesReviews]

I don't know if Sidney being the killer could be pulled off, without ending up pretty cheesy.

Eh, that can't be any worse than 2's ending. Or 3's for that matter.

[The Dark Vampire]

The twist ending is gonna be It is Sidney who is the killer or so we think we then find it's her unknown twin sister who kidnapped her before the movie started then posed as her throughout the entire movie

[WesReviews]

Scream 4 Figure Series 01 - Set of Ghostface & ________ Ghostface (http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=NEC11494&mode=retail&picture=out)

An interesting pre-order is now up at Big Bad Toy Store. A listing for a two-figure Ghostface pack, with one of the figures being "Zombie Ghostface".

I hope this means they're planning to diss Rob Zombie and remakes in general. This figure's appearance seems very promising, in that respect. Appears very similar to RZ's Myers mask. All gritty, darke, and harshe.

[i am SAW]

I hope this means they're planning to diss Rob Zombie and remakes in general.
i keep seeing this comment in this thread.

wouldn't it make more sense to diss whoever remade NOES? i mean, this is a Wes Craven film, he made the original NOES and the remake is a pile of shit.

[WesReviews]

From Bloody-Disgusting...

While the leaked synopsis provided way more info, fansite Scream-Trilogy (they might need to change the site's name) claims to have a "verified as genuine" review of Wes Craven's Scream 4. Unsurprisingly, a fan site regular LOVED it. "This outshines the 3rd one easily," he explains adding, "The opening scene was hilarious and brutal...[it's] definitely the bloodiest of all of them." The writer also exclaims that "the ending was insanity" and that it's "easily the best of all the series." It's so incredibly vague that anyone could have claimed to have seen it. And it's even more difficult to take a superfan's word with any grain of salt as they may have loved it "just because." Just for the sake of comparison, I'd like to see a more detailed review come in that actually exposes a bit of criticism. Dimension Films will release the fourth film on April 15.

Possibly a fake, but who knows.

[Apocalypto]

That's word for word what someone that said they were at the early screening posted at ohmb a few days ago.

[Jason_Legend]

The more I think about it, the more I don't mind Sidney being the killer. In fact, it's probably a better end to her stpry, than just getting offed.

[MiMania]

the full trailer (http://www.vivafilm.com/en/47/trailers/letter_search/0/default_high/S/0/) has been released.

can't freaking wait to see this.

[Sean [The Wildcard]]

Now THAT'S a better trailer.

[Jus-X]

Dude that looks great!!! I loved the part when the killer asks "name the remake blah blah blah" and Claire mentions every remake you could think of in two seconds... greatness right there!

[Rick]

Dude that looks great!!! I loved the part when the killer asks "name the remake blah blah blah" and Claire mentions every remake you could think of in two seconds... greatness right there!

I wonder if the correct answer was Friday the 13th? Lol.
Doesn't look too bad.
Pretty much looks like all of the other ones to me, which could be good or bad I guess.

[Sutter Cane]

Oh man. I liked that trailer a lot.

[Natman]

Oh hells yes.

[Jason_Legend]

I'm suddenly excited again. That new trailer is great. It reminds me of how much I was excited for the other movies.

[WesReviews]

Apparently, NECA has listened to fan outcry over the plastic/fabric hybrid Ghostface figure...

From Randy @ NECA...

"We have heard from some of the fan community that they are not happy with the mixed mediums and the use of soft goods which is disappointing but in an effort to please everyone we are going to make a running change in the production and switch to a sculpted skirt. That way both versions are on the market and those who don’t mind the fabric and want to pose the legs more can buy the initial soft goods version and those who prefer the fully sculpted all plastic figure can wait and purchase that version. We listen and value the fan’s opinions and want to try to satisfy everyone. So here is an exclusive behind the scenes look at how the lower part of the figure will be revised. We are keeping the fabric on the sleeves as I really don’t like how this looks sculpted and again we want people to pose and articulate the arms and have the fabric move with it in a way that makes logical sense, like how fabric or a long sleeve like that would really move in real life."

[Rick]

Nice that they are listening to the fan criticism.

[Joshg]

I'm really excited after that trailer for Scream 4.

You know horror is in a rut when joshg gets antsy for a Scream sequel.

[Cody]

Wes Craven (http://twitter.com/wescraven) is back in Michigan for reshoots (http://www.411mania.com/movies/news/172083/%5BMovies%5D-Scream-4-Reshoots-Scheduled-For-This-Weekend.htm).

Scream 4 will be re-shooting portions of the film in the Northville, MI area next week.

Shooting is scheduled for January 31st and February 1st on Clement Street

Last summer, Scream 4 was filmed throughout Northville with stars Neve Campbell, Courtney Cox and David Arquette spotted around town.

The crew will be shooting 14 hours each day, mostly indoors.

"It could just be lighting and special effects," she said. "They're coming back to do some additional suspense and terror for opening sequence."

The movie is due out in April.

[The Tall Man]

Wes Craven? Reshoots?

Hooboy. :-/

T.M., Esq.

[Cody]

Craven has posted a picture (http://www.flickr.com/photos/wescraven/5399716935/in/photostream/) of Alison Brie on set.

[WesReviews]

Wes Craven? Reshoots?

Hooboy. :-/

T.M., Esq.

Yup. That's never a good sign.

[The One and Only]

I'm more worried when the words"reshoots" and "Wienstiens" are together. I don't don't what is it with those two doffuses, but they never can resisit tinkering, and tinklering with hteir genre projects. Rarely turns out any good. You'd think after twenty some years of foul-ups, bleeps, and blunders back seat driving their horror catalog they'd learn to stop. I guess not.:mad:

[Jus-X]

Well one thing's for sure, maybe now on the DVD/BD release we'll actually get alternate endings with alternate killers!

[MiMania]

new poster:

http://i53.tinypic.com/igao2x.jpg

[The Tall Man]

I'm more worried when the words"reshoots" and "Wienstiens" are together. I don't don't what is it with those two doffuses, but they never can resisit tinkering, and tinklering with hteir genre projects. Rarely turns out any good. You'd think after twenty some years of foul-ups, bleeps, and blunders back seat driving their horror catalog they'd learn to stop. I guess not.:mad:
They are Hollywood producers... Of course not. They think-- and their loyal dregs of yes men keep telling them-- every decision they make is great.

T.M., Esq.

[sam hane]

new poster:

http://i53.tinypic.com/igao2x.jpg

Pretty sure this has to be a fake given this (http://img114.imageshack.us/i/myscream4bytjwv3wa4.jpg/) was uploaded almost 4 years ago and the 4 is identical.

[MiMania]

nope, it's real unfortunately. Wes even tweeted (http://twitter.com/wescraven/status/32217831332384768) a link to it yesterday.

[Jus-X]

So they jacked someone else's fan poster?!?!

[Westin]

This poster is as old as the 90's.

[sam hane]

So they jacked someone else's fan poster?!?!

haha that's what I was just about to post. Kinda sad they had to steal someone else's poster.

[The Dream Master]

I think it's still obviously fan made--just look closely, you can tell where a lot of the shit has been pasted in...looks kind of "splotchy" around it.

I could be wrong, but I think someone's got their wires crossed. I'd be surprised if that were real.

[Jus-X]

I'd be surprised if that were real.

Well it's out of Wes' Twitter account itself. So unless his account was hacked or he's been hanging out with Beer N Cigs and is drunk, I'ma believe him.

[The Dream Master]

I know he tweeted it, but I think you'd be surprised by how out of the loop directors are with marketing and shit. I'm telling you, if that's real, it's piss poor. Anyone who has ever used Microsoft Paint will notice those splotches and shit from where you pasted something in over something else.

For further proof, there were fake Saw 3D posters on Fandango's site as well. In fact, one of them is still there. (http://images.fandango.com/r84.8.1/ImageRenderer/375/375/nox.jpg/131436/images/masterrepository/fandango/131436/saw7poster3dfinal.jpg)

[Westin]

This is a real poster:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_wkUc6vQNV4E/TMsfPMl2jDI/AAAAAAAAAyU/aM1E03k1aKo/s1600/333323.jpg

Dimension films wouldn't be so lazy to revisit an old design; whoever created this new poster just replaced the three with the four. What is funny is that if you type "Scream 4" in Google News, you will get several results stating that "the new Scream poster is out."

[Just Jeans]

It doesn't look like a fan shop to me, but I'm not on my computer and the contrast is so high on this monitor that it looks fine. If I got on my PC and could adjust the monitor settings and have a look at it in Photoshop, it'd be easier to tell.

Having said that, if it DOES have the hallmarks of cheap shopping, it could be Dimension are just THAT lazy.

I like the design, though. I'd never seen the fan poster from years back, and I like the shape of the four. I reckon it gets the job done. Way better than the floating head posters of the mid-1990s.

[The Dream Master]

I can't really see the splotches I'm talking about on this computer either, but on my other one, they're definitely there. If it's not a fan shop, I'll be shocked, especially because we already know the main image is from a fan poster from years ago.

[Cody]

Only way to know for sure: field trip to local cinemas to see if the poster is up anywhere.
ADDED:
Craven: "They're not reshoots" (http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/02/02/scream-4-wes-craven-additional-shooting-exclusive/)

Scream 4 fans were in a tizzy when rumors of reshoots flooded the Internet this past weekend. Director Wes Craven even tweeted that production had returned to Michigan and posted a pic of Community‘s Alison Brie. (Friday Night Lights‘ Aimee Teegarden also tweeted that she was called back for more filming.) But Craven tells EW EXCLUSIVELY that it they were simply adding to two pivotal moments to the horror flick, out April 15.

“They’re not reshoots,” says Craven from the snowy set in Detroit. “We had a couple test screenings and we saw two scenes where they had moments you could add to and we just saw a spectacular opportunity. Bob [Weinstein] just said to me basically, ‘You go to your dark side and I’ll give you the money!’ [Laughs] The two scenes were really good, but we saw how they could be spectacular, so we thought, let’s just go for it. They were key moments of the script, so we just decided to go back and go for the grand slam on them.”

And as for reports that the ending was being retooled? Don’t believe it. “No, the ending is totally kick-ass,” says Craven. “We’re not gonna touch that. [The scenes being added to are] one scene that’s kind of in the late beginning and one scene that’s a little bit later.”

Based on this info (and from dissecting the trailer like a good Scream obsessive), it sounds like Craven and Co. are amping up Brie’s Ghostface attack scene in the parking garage, as well as Teegarden and Brittany Robertson’s own meeting with the masked killer.

[Darth Sinister]

It doesn't look like a fan shop to me, but I'm not on my computer and the contrast is so high on this monitor that it looks fine. If I got on my PC and could adjust the monitor settings and have a look at it in Photoshop, it'd be easier to tell.

Having said that, if it DOES have the hallmarks of cheap shopping, it could be Dimension are just THAT lazy.

I like the design, though. I'd never seen the fan poster from years back, and I like the shape of the four. I reckon it gets the job done. Way better than the floating head posters of the mid-1990s.

Dimension can be that lazy. Look at these posters.

http://www.moviepostershop.com/highlander-endgame-movie-poster-1020231139.jpg

Lambert's face and hair does not match how he appears in the film. In fact, it's from the third film. You can see where some cut and pasting occured.

http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo28/transam_04/Highlander_4_poster.jpg

And this was just as bad. Connor's katana clearly does not belong as Lambert's fingers are behind the handgrip. They're both wearing the same coat, whereas in the film Lambert never wore a leather coat.

http://www.scifimoviepage.com/images/highl1.jpg

Another big clue is that on the official website from back in 2000, they were both seen holding different swords. In the right hand, was a saber type sword while the left hand was a different type of board sword. Adrian Paul is holding the rejected katana that was first marketed in 1994 for sale via catalogue.

Dimension can be lazy if they choose to be. Often they won't, but they can.

[Westin]

New @Scream4 poster: http://tinyurl.com/S4Poster What do you think?

I think that you should quit playing with MS Paint, Mr. Craven.

(with all due respect, of course)

[The Dream Master]

You can see where some cut and pasting occured.


But you can't literally see the artifacts that such copying and pasting left on the image itself, like you can in that Scream 4 poster. Like WestinHills said, someone needs to quit playing in MS paint.

[Just Jeans]

I've looked at the poster on my PC now, opened it in Photoshop, and looked for some of the really obvious telltales. I can't find any, but I'm not a pro. After turning the contrast way down and the brightness way up (the easiest way to bring out artifacts and pixelation), the only major artifacts I see are of the sort that are caused by a low-res scan, or low-res output from Photoshop into JPEG format (to give a point of reference, I'd have to drop the quality to 5 [of a possible 10] to get a raw BMP down to 25KB file size in JPEG format).

Basically, I think it's just a shitty compression of the image, not a shitty Photoshop in general. This sort of thing is why I don't use low quality JPEG for graphics in the 720p videos that go up on the Holy Toaster website: they can look really bad when YouTube compresses the files down to 360p, and would look outright atrocious if I used low-res files to being with. Raw PSD files FTW.

[Jus-X]

Like WestinHills said, someone needs to quit playing in MS paint.

http://img212.imageshack.us/i/h2016zp7.jpg/sr=1

Huh?

[WesReviews]

The new fully sculpted Ghostface Scream 4 figure from NECA...

http://www.figures.com/forums/attachments/news/16224d1296825766-better-look-new-sculpted-skirt-ghostface-1old-newghostface.jpg

[Rick]

The fully sculpted figure looks a lot better, but the fabric on the arms still looks dumb.

[Sutter Cane]

Ugh. Both figures look pretty awful, especially for NECA's usually high standards of greatness when it comes to previous figures.

[The Dream Master]

http://www.blogcdn.com/blog.moviefone.com/media/2011/02/s42.jpg

[Jus-X]

Okay... now that's doep!

[Sutter Cane]

This is probably the best poster so far.

[WesReviews]

Muuuuuuuuuuuuch better poster.

[Jus-X]

So Randy in Part 2 says "sequels suck... by definition alone they're inferior films."

I wonder if there's going to be someone in this film to argue with another character about remakes? I'd love to see a scene like that.

[WesReviews]

They will have truly missed a golden opportunity if they don't address it.

[The Tall Man]

Fuck Randy and his goddamned "rules". That is all.

T.M., Esq.

[The Dream Master]

I will bet all of your dicks that there will end up being some dialogue skewering remakes in that fashion.

[Darth Sinister]

Fuck Randy and his goddamned "rules". That is all.

T.M., Esq.

Well, that one isn't a rule and more of an opinion that is sometimes fact.

[Apocalypto]

Fuck Randy and his goddamned "rules". That is all.

T.M., Esq.

Indeed...guy never had any idea what the hell he was talking about anyway. Most of his so called 'genre rules' make absolutely no sense.

[Jus-X]

Fuck Randy and his goddamned "rules". That is all.

T.M., Esq.

Yeah well Randy made sense, but the thing is that he is speaking of movies that came after originals that end up exploiting sex, drugs, and stupid people.

For example, Alice in Friday 1 smoked weed, didn't die in that film.

Ginny in part 2 did the dance with no pants with Paul, didn't die.

Laurie smoked the ganja with Annie in Halloween 1 and didn't die in that film.

Elizabeth made it with Tom Atkins in the Fog and didn't die.

But if you look at the movies that came after these ones, you smoked or drank... you died. You hade sex, you died. You said I'll be back, you weren't coming back.

[WesReviews]

A behind the scenes pic snapped by Wes Craven himself...

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/246466784.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1298569923&Signature=Hsb%2FRyUY3b25DXjByyp1dS%2B0kfU%3D

[Voorheeszilla]

Badass pic, my anticipation for this one is steadily increasing.

And I agree with everyone above, I hope they don't miss out on an opportunity to poke some fun at remakes. But, I have a feeling they won't. Afterall, this is Scream we're talking about. ;)

[Jus-X]

Badass pic, my anticipation for this one is steadily increasing.

And I agree with everyone above, I hope they don't miss out on an opportunity to poke some fun at remakes. But, I have a feeling they won't. Afterall, this is Scream we're talking about. ;)

Well we know by the trailer that they mention remakes and reboots. There's a joke where Claire names off every single remake she can think of to answer the killer's question. I'm actually hoping a conversation simliar to what Micky and Randy had in film class. It was natural and had a lot of people involved bring up Terminator 2 and Aliens and Mighty Ducks 2... with... Josh... :shifty:... okay, so that line was cut out, but it was a great scene. We know the film knocks remakes, we know it has a film teacher in it, to have that conversation would be greatness.

And I still stand by my the idea the Sidney will finally be killed or ends up being the killer.

[Hoody]

A behind the scenes pic snapped by Wes Craven himself...

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/246466784.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1298569923&Signature=Hsb%2FRyUY3b25DXjByyp1dS%2B0kfU%3D

It's not working for me, and I tried tooling with the link and can't get it that way either.

[i am SAW]

click here

http://www.fangoria.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3640:ghostface-needs-a-good-book&catid=1:latest-news&Itemid=167

[Ron]

I caught David Arquette on Oprah today. He's a pretty odd duck.

[Hoody]

I caught David Arquette on Oprah today. He's a pretty odd duck.

A lot of former wrestlers are screwed up due to the steroids.

[Sutter Cane]

Oh man. I like that behind the scenes pic quite a bit.

[Ghostface]

A lot of former wrestlers are screwed up due to the steroids.
That's funny since he was WCW champ and in 'Ready to Rumble'! I thought he was very nervous and akward on Oprah as well. It was cool there was a mention of 'Scream' and 'Scream 4'. Very brief, but it was still a mention.

[Darth Sinister]

I don't know if it's so much the drugs and alcohol as it is that he has a hard time expressing himself. I, myself have that problem. And if he's used to making wisecracks, then it's a force of habit to do so. This is probably what's hurt his career. He can act, but he doesn't come off as a leading man unless it's a comedy.

[Voorheeszilla]

Didn't he split with Courtney Cox recently?

[Just Jeans]

He was nailing a younger Courtney duplicate and got caught out.

[Voorheeszilla]

Damn, I didn't know that was the case.

[The Dream Master]

Here's your requisite "90s floating heads/cast members" poster:

http://www.dreadcentral.com/img/news/feb11/scream4character.jpeg

[WesReviews]

You know, it just occurred to me... is this the first Scream final 1-sheet that actually features Ghostface on the poster art?

[The Dream Master]

I'm pretty sure that's right, yeah. I thought Ghostface looked weird thrown in there with the original 3.

[WesReviews]

Kind of sad that the villain of a horror franchise doesn't even appear on the official one-sheet until the fourth entry. Can you imagine Jason's mask or outline not appearing on the first four Fridays? (and part 1 doesn't count, because it's still "the killer"). :P

[Jus-X]

Dewey has to be my new favorite character. He just got tougher and cooler throughout the course of the films. He started off as a bumbling Barney Fife deputy in the first film and end up being the sheriff in 4.

[Darth Sinister]

I think Craven wanted to avoid doing the traditional horror one sheets where the villain is shown in some form. Hence the first three films focused on the cast, but since this is a new era and a new take, we get Ghostface. Course, this could not be the final one sheet.

[The Tall Man]

Kind of sad that the villain of a horror franchise doesn't even appear on the official one-sheet until the fourth entry. Can you imagine Jason's mask or outline not appearing on the first four Fridays? (and part 1 doesn't count, because it's still "the killer"). :P
Jason doesn't appear on the poster for Part 2. They used the same feminine outline from the Friday 1 one sheet... they just replaced the knife with an... ax? At any rate, it's still a woman's outline.

T.M., Esq.

[Sean [The Wildcard]]

Here's your requisite "90s floating heads/cast members" poster:

http://www.dreadcentral.com/img/news/feb11/scream4character.jpeg

I really, REALLY hate that poster.

[Ron]

It looks...fake.

[MiMania]

it is. it's fan-made.

[MiMania]

officially rated R, for strong bloody violence, language and some teen drinking.

[Voorheeszilla]

Dewey has to be my new favorite character. He just got tougher and cooler throughout the course of the films. He started off as a bumbling Barney Fife deputy in the first film and end up being the sheriff in 4.

I agree with this, though, I had the feeling he would get killed each time he was attacked throughout the first three films. :duh: But, honestly, it's been nice to see Dewey's "evolution" of sorts.

[WesReviews]

Bloody Disgusting has 3 new images from the film. (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/23666)

[WesReviews]

Official website now up. (http://www.scream-4.com/#/connect)

[Ghostface]

The site looks great! I've been waiting for an official wallpaper for my computer!

[i am SAW]

it is. it's fan-made.
well it's better than this real one.

http://www.impawards.com/2011/scream_four_ver4.html

is Neve Campbell on there twice? the chick on the left looks just like her.

[Apocalypto]

That's Emma Roberts...unfortunately.

[Ghostface]

I like that poster. It's better then the final version with the credits. That has to be the worst of the four theatrical posters.

[AshLoomis]

I can't believe Craven is directing this, he really must be desparate for work at this point.

[The Dream Master]

What else does he got to do that's any better? I mean, did you see My Soul to Take (or most anything else he's done since Scream)? :X

[WesReviews]

Red Eye was good, up until the last 10 minutes or so.

[The Dream Master]

Yes, Red Eye is the exception that keeps that sentence from saying "everything he's done since Scream." I enjoyed it. Very solid movie.

[WesReviews]

Yeah, it was. The ending, though. It's like Craven didn't know how to end it, so he just said fuck it. Which, he's been known to do with endings. :X

[idolone]

I know it's asking way to much of Scream 4, but I'm hoping that it will somehow make up for Scream 3 which was horrible. I guess we'll see.

[AshLoomis]

What else does he got to do that's any better? I mean, did you see My Soul to Take (or most anything else he's done since Scream)? :X

Well, that's kind of my point, he's really run out of good or original ideas.

[WesReviews]

From Total Film...

During production, Craven tweeted that he was “no longer in control of the script” as Scream 3 writer Ehren Kruger came in to rework Williamson’s draft. “I was just stating the fact,” he recalls. “In some ways it’s a Wes Craven film, and in way it’s not entirely, because it’s not a script I have control of. It’s ultimately controlled by what the studio wants in the script. My job is much more bringing whatever experience and expertise and creativity I can.” He pauses. “Look, there was a bumpy period when things shifted over from Kevin to Ehren. I signed up to do a script by Kevin and unfortunately that didn’t go all the way through the shooting. But it certainly is Kevin’s script and concept and ideas and themes.”

and...

And would Craven be up for any more if this Screamed up enough box office? “When I initially met with Kevin, he sketched out what the next two would be, and I found it really fascinating,” he concludes. “A lot depends on whether they come up with scripts to flesh out. But certainly, I’m up for it, if the script is there. It’s a fascinating thing to do two trilogies in a career.”

[The Dream Master]

I'm still excited for it...but Dimension's track record with this sort of shit is not good.

[WesReviews]

When one sees the words Craven and Kruger, one immediately gets excited... until one then realizes that the good one is spelled Krueger, and that the other one is a talentless screenwriter.

[The Dream Master]

I was gonna say it'd be more apt to call Kruger "hit or miss," then I realized The Ring is like the only doep ass thing he wrote. And that's outweighed tremendously by Transformers 2, which could hardly qualify as having a script. Seriously, how'd get a WGA credit for that shit? :X

[Jason_Legend]

I actually really like Arlington Road. One of the better thrillers from the 90's.

[MiMania]

several new stills were released today:

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/6899/20077419306703116261388.jpg
http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/7738/19961019306324706801388.jpg
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4554/19957619306691115961388.jpg
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/9129/19666219306345507321388.jpg

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9041/20035919306338307141388.jpg (minor spoiler)
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/4159/19618619306331906981388.jpg (minor spoiler)
http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/4619/19898419306349107411388.jpg (MAJOR spoiler)

seriously, don't click on that last one if you don't want to see the aftermath of a kill. I've listed the two before it as minor spoilers, because if you've seen the trailer(s) enough times, you can pretty much guess whose blood is all over Ghostface's mask.

[Apocalypto]

I was gonna say it'd be more apt to call Kruger "hit or miss," then I realized The Ring is like the only doep ass thing he wrote. And that's outweighed tremendously by Transformers 2, which could hardly qualify as having a script. Seriously, how'd get a WGA credit for that shit? :X

Indeed, and even The Ring, although a great movie, wasn't exactly a brilliant script. It was mainly the director, the cast and the cinematography that made it so awesome. It's a very visual and visceral experience, not a whole lot of extremely memorable dialogue.

Transformers 1 and 2 are among the worst mainstream films ever made, having your name attached to one of those of those is cinematic poison. Unless you're a visual effects artist, you should be ashamed of yourself for having anything to do with them.

[The One and Only]

^And having more cash then GOD when all's said and done.:D

[Apocalypto]

Of course, the mainstream public has an affinity for crap, not that that makes the work onscreen any better.

[Jus-X]

That last pic is sick. Literally. It made me sick. I'm going to love this movie.

[i am SAW]

http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/7738/19961019306324706801388.jpg
what's her real name? i know i've seen her before... somewhere.

[MiMania]

her name's Lucy Hale.

also, the first TV spot aired last night:
Ju5kKip2cs4

[Jus-X]

what's her real name? i know i've seen her before... somewhere.

I remember she was a main character on Bionic Woman... haven't seen her anywhere else... maybe Law and Order or something like that? Everyone has Law and Order or like, NCIS on their roster.

[i am SAW]

just looked at her IMDB page, i've never seen anything she's done.

well i guess she reminds me of someone else then.

[Darth Sinister]

She was on an episode of "How I Met Your Mother" in season one.

[Jason_Legend]

She kind of looks like Salma Blair in that pic.

[i am SAW]

http://img.filmsactu.net/datas/films/s/c/scream-4/xl/4d816da09ffbd.jpg

[El Rooto]

He looks more than a bit bothered...

[The Tall Man]

Does Dewey in an actual police uniform cause anyone else to chuckle uncontrollably too?

He looks like a cross between Fred Wilson and Barney Fife.

T.M., Esq.

[Jus-X]

Does Dewey in an actual police uniform cause anyone else to chuckle uncontrollably too?

He looks like a cross between Fred Wilson and Barney Fife.

T.M., Esq.

Lol. We could call him Fred Fife. :doggy:

[The One and Only]

Three clips from SCREAM 4 (http://www.joblo.com/arrow/index.php?id=27252).

[Hypnocil]

I'm truly amazed Ehren Kruger was even allowed ten feet near the Scream 4 script, let alone be allowed to add his two cents into it. I guess we'll be seeing Ghost Maureen roaming around the fields again. :eek:

I'll definately see this in theaters!

[Apocalypto]

After talking to my friend about this, I'm pretty sure it'll turn out well, making it all the more frustrating that I'll end up hating it for personal reasons.

I'll be there at the midnight show for the nostalgic value, but I doubt I'll ever be able to watch it again after that.

Oh, I saw that half mold, half cloth Ghostface figure in FYE yesterday, looks horrible. It's too bad, I think I'd have bought it if it were all mold or all cloth.

[Cody]

Eli Roth says:

Holy Fuck #Scream4 is the best and bloodiest yet!!!!! Amazing job @wescraven !!!!

[The Tall Man]

Eli Roth liked it? This doesn't bode well...

T.M., Esq.

[Just Jeans]

I dunno what TV spots for the film are like elsewhere, but Neve Campbell is conspicuous by her absence from the TV spots they're showing during Conan. :shifty:

If Sidney isn't dead by the second act, I'll buy the people who attend the film with me a soda afterward.

[The Dream Master]

Eli Roth liked it? This doesn't bode well...

T.M., Esq.

On the other hand, Roth is also a fan of the likes of Nightmare on Elm Street, so....

I'm pretty much checking out of all Scream 4 shit and am even staying off Twitter until Friday for fear of spoilers.

I'm seeing it at midnight Thursday. Work the next day? Who cares.

[hack slash]

Going to see this on saturday, It looks good and it will be my 2 kids first ever R rated movie in theaters :D

[Jus-X]

oh crap, it comes out this week. Now I think I know what I want to do on my birthday in two weeks, rather than Fast Five, I'ma going to see this.

[WesReviews]

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/24138

The "fanmade" "photoshop job" 4 poster a few pages back was legit afterall, as seen in the Scream 4 premiere video clip in the BD link above. The "blade" poster and the "4" poster are both prominently seen at the premiere.

[Jus-X]

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/24138

The "fanmade" "photoshop job" 4 poster a few pages back was legit afterall, as seen in the Scream 4 premiere video clip in the BD link above. The "blade" poster and the "4" poster are both prominently seen at the premiere.

Also seen at my local theater. Probably should have taken a pic and shared, but ah well.

[Joshg]

Just finished watching an early screening of this. Good. I actually really liked it. The commentary on remakes, the postmodern try-hard generation, the youtube/fame world we now live in and the bloodiest of them all makes this one, hands down imo, MUCH better than Parts 2 and 3. So funny, and exciting. Not scary, but were these ever scary? Not to me. Congrats to Craven for redeeming himself after the disappointing My Soul To Take.

[Jus-X]

but were these ever scary? Not to me.

I thought the first time I saw the first 5 minutes of the first movie I thought what was going on was completely haunting. But then I got too enthrawled with the "whodunnit mystery" that I forgot it was supposed to be scary. Now anytime I watch the first five minutes of the first movie I begin to ask "hmmm, is that Stu on the phone or Billy?"

Put spoiler tags round those names in the event someone in here is deprived enough to no see the first film.

[WesReviews]

Bloody Disgusting (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/film/925/review) loved it.

So, it's probably shit. :X

[Sutter Cane]

Saw it last night and basically loved it. I kinda wish it would've ended about twenty minutes sooner since it would've taken the franchise in a completely new direction, but it's easily the best horror movie I've seen so far this year.

[Andiac]

I just got back from Scream 4.

I have nothing bad to say about it.

It is satirical, scary, suspenseful, bloody, funny and brilliant!

A great installment in the franchise. I prefer it over Scream 3.

The satire! I can't get over how aware it is!

I don't want to say anything. I don't want to take away anyone's enjoyment. I really loved it! I think everyone will see something they'll enjoy. And if you hate it, then you're probably used to being wrong and that's okay. ;)

[Joshg]

As someone who did not care for the Scream movies at all before, I REALLY enjoyed it. It has a very strong message and reflection for society too, which makes it that much better as a film too.

[MysterioMan007]

I have a mostly positive reaction to the movie. It was much better than Scream 3 by a mile. It was good to see Dewey, Gale, and Sidney once again take on Ghostface and the movie was a nice thrill ride.

The Good:
Dewey and Gale haven't changed much. They still have that snark between them despite having been married 10 years. This is, however, the first time I've noticed that Courteney Cox is beginning to show her age...and botox.

Hayden Panettierre...probably the best new character in the movie. Her "death" was left a little ambiguous, so if they do a Part 5, she could could possibly return, though she was implied to have died. People can debate about this all they want, but we won't know for sure unless they make another movie.

FUCK BRUCE WILLIS! The Anthony Anderson death itself was way over the top (I'll get to that later), but the line was comedy gold.

Had I not known ahead of time that Jill was the killer, I probably wouldn't have guessed. Charlie, I might have, but not her.

Sidney was bad ass in this one, not running and hiding anymore. She actually chased the killer at some points in the movie.

The ending with Charlie in the chair a la Steve was a nice throwback to the original.



The Bad:

Woodsboro didn't have the same feel it did in the original movie. Hardly any landmarks from the first movie appeared and just didn't even seem like the same place. I would have loved to have seen Sid's or Stu's old house, but wasn't meant to be, I guess.

Anthony Anderson's death scene was ridiculous. I mentioned the Bruce Willis line, but getting out of the car and shaking while having the capacity to do anything after being stabbed in the brain was beyond comedic and more in line with slapstick.

Everything was too quick/not enough character development/too many characters. It just seemed at times to jump from kill scene to kill scene without stopping for much of anything. I never felt like anyone was around long enough to connect with like the first 2 movies.

Overall, I give it about a 7 out of 10. It did keep my attention the entire time and I wasn't really disappointed. There just seemed to be a few things missing is all. I would watch it again, though, and I might next week sometime.

[Apocalypto]

I thought most of the deaths were ridiculous, I expected a pretty good amount of humor, but this thing was just so damn silly. Anderson's death, as mentioned above, and Knudson's death were absolutely pathetic, like something out of an SNL skit about Scream.

I thought Emma did a pretty good job of a whacked out loony bitch at the end and Sidney taking Jill down...twice were some pretty cool cheer moments, but overall this movie was way too over the top with the comedy.

I will give them props for that opening though, silly as hell or not, that's some of the funniest shit I've seen in a theater in a while.

I thought the movie was sort of entertaining in a weird way, but definitely not in a good horror movie way.

[Jason_Legend]

My expectations were kind of low, because of the all over the place reviews, but I quite enjoyed this.

I don't know if the opening is my favorite, but it's most clever of the series.

I thought the setup of the characters was pretty good.

After that, it got a little dull. Starting with the stab-athon, it had me to the end.

The finale is fantastic. Probably the best finale of the series. Borderline brilliant. At least for the series.

I'm pretty surprised. Lately, it's pretty rare I enjoy a movie this much on the first viewing. I don't know what it is with me.

Almost every movie improves on repeated viewings for me, nowadays. I think the dull patch will probably also improve on more viewings.

[Ghostface]

I'm seeing it Saturday afternoon and I've avoided spoilers so far! I'll post my thoughts tomorrow night!

[The Dark Vampire]

Just got back from it and thought it was great I think I like it more than I did 2-3

Pretty sure there is going to be a 5 and 6 when they 1st announced it didn't they say there was going to make it a 2nd trilogy

[Apocalypto]

Yeah, they're already looking for Scream 5 writers now because Williamson is pissed about being re-written and doesn't want to return.

[Hypnocil]

I must say I enjoyed this one. Easily better than the last one. I found it clever and overall a fun experience. The cast was great and the mystery kept me guessing up till the end, and I loved the twists!

The commentary about both remakes and how one can attain fame electronically was pretty spot on. I guess in general, Wes was able to recreate the same level of energy the first two had, and the thrust of the movie never stops to linger too long on things (like the third entry was all too guilty of),

The only strange thing about the plot was that Sidney's father was M.I.A. throughout the entire movie. I was expecting at least a cameo where he brought Sidney her yearly supply of gourds. :p

[Darth Sinister]

He wasn't in the second film.

[Hypnocil]

Yeah, I know. But Sidney was off to college in another state, so it made sense. Plus, her father was mentioned as being out of the country, which sort of made him a red herring.

I'm guessing her dad doesn't live in Woodsboro any longer.

[Andiac]

Yeah, they're already looking for Scream 5 writers now because Williamson is pissed about being re-written and doesn't want to return.

Where did you read that? I didn't know he was re-written. I'd like to read up on this, can you please link sources?

[Apocalypto]

Where did you read that? I didn't know he was re-written. I'd like to read up on this, can you please link sources?

I'll try and find a link, but I know a major reason Williamson is not happy with the film and doesn't want to come back is...

he had Jill planned as being revealed as the killer in Scream 6 as part of a second trilogy, he didn't like them re-writing him and revealing/killing her off in this film.

[Hypnocil]

I just found this article at EW (http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/04/07/scream-4-kevin-williamson/).

He talks about the fight between him and Bob, then goes on to say

Would you want to do a Scream 5?
Let’s just get through Scream 4! If people really respond to the film, then yes, there are more twists and turns.

[Jason_Legend]

The opening and the whole third act is more enjoyable than 3. 3 was better in the middle. Though, I'm pretty sure the kind of dull middle will improve the more I watch it. That's just how it is for me, nowadays, lol.

There's a few flaws. The suspense and some of the characters could've been milked a little more. This movie should've been at least 10 mintes longer. The jokes were overdone at times, but not quite as overall relentlessly goofy as I were expecting. I was expecting something goofier than 3, compared to some of the reviews.

[Apocalypto]

I think this movie is WAY more goofy than 3. I may be more entertaining, but also alot more silly.

3 never went so far as to have characters make silly gags out of their own deaths...and Ghostface wasn't cracking jokes.

I was staring in awe when he actually 'you don't have to be a bitch about it!'

I can enjoy this film in the same way as a Leprechaun movie or Jason X. It's just so damn over the top ridiculous that I can laugh at the absurdity (and sometimes just plain stupidity) of it all, but as a serious film, I think this film is an epic failure.

I was truly stunned at how overdone the humor was throughout the entire movie.

[Jason3000]

http://www.deadline.com/2011/04/first-box-office-rio-bird-winning-intl-battle-with-hop/

$8.5 million opening day

$19 million estimated weekend.

Friday the 13th made $19 million opening day.

So why was this series not able to survive in re-incarnation but Friday the 13th, a series out decades before, was?

[The Dark Vampire]

he had Jill planned as being revealed as the killer in Scream 6 as part of a second trilogy, he didn't like them re-writing him and revealing/killing her off in this film.

At the end and it looked like she got away with it I did think she was going to be in 5 and they wouldn't find out until then it was her.

But if they had gone that way I do think it would of been a great twist for us not even to know until the end of 6.

[The Dream Master]

So why was this series not able to survive in re-incarnation but Friday the 13th, a series out decades before, was?

I think it's becoming more and more clear that Friday the 13th didn't "survive" anything, and just got really lucky with a great release date. Let's see how Scream 4 does the rest of the weekend and in coming weeks before making any kind of definitive claims.

[sickboy]

I just got back from Scream 4.

I have nothing bad to say about it.

It is satirical, scary, suspenseful, bloody, funny and brilliant!

A great installment in the franchise. I prefer it over Scream 3.

The satire! I can't get over how aware it is!

I don't want to say anything. I don't want to take away anyone's enjoyment. I really loved it! I think everyone will see something they'll enjoy

^ This sums it for me pretty nicely.

It had some nods to the previous films and had this fantastic sense of irony throughout. I'e seen a few people saying how they can't take it seriously... but seeing as the original is supposed to be a parody, I can't work that statement out.

Prefer this just slightly to Scream 2.

And if you hate it, then you're probably used to being wrong and that's okay. ;)

QFT

[SlasherFreak]

I'll probably see this next weekend after the crowds die down, or possibly a matinee show one day during the week. Sorry, Scream 2 & 3 are still lingering my head, so Im a tad bit apprehensive.

With that being said, Im starting to get scared by people saying "It's as good as Scream 2". I can't understand the affection for Scream 2 (or 3). I think the first one is a classic, but I just cannot stand to sit through the sequels. I tried not too long ago to prepare for this one. Just couldn't do it.

[Westin]

The good:

The message that the movie conveys, and what the movie is really about: in an era of remakes, you do not mess with the originals. Most people (myself included) were expecting that they would "rejuvenate this franchise," and that 'the old characters would 'pass the torch' to the new ones." This didn't happen. It was exciting to see the original trio in the end, and it was exciting to see that they managed to defeat the villain one more time.

The bad:

The pacing. I had trouble connecting with the new characters and with the old ones. You cannot predict whether this movie is about the new characters or about the old ones until the movie ends. The scenarios change too frequently, thereby making it hard to predict where the final confrontation will take place. You have the place where the Stab movie marathon takes place, then Kirby's house, and then the hospital. The movie makes you keep guessing where the final confrontation will be. This made me impatient. It would have been an incredible idea if the kids had decided to continue the Stab movie marathon in Stu's old house, and if the final confront took place there.

As much as I love Sidney's character, I had the expectation that she would either die or be the killer in this one. It is the fourth time that her character endures the same situation. It is difficult to imagine the same thing happening to the same character for the fourth time. Nancy (A Nightmare on Elm Street) died in the sequel. Alice (Friday the 13th) died in the sequel. Laurie Strode is sort of the exception because her character managed to survive four sequels, but she said goodbye to the franchise in the fourth movie. This movie breaks genre conventions. Sidney is the ultimate survivor.

Unlike the first and second movies, this movie does not have a dark tone. Sidney's life is a tragedy of events and should be portrayed as such, despite the character's strength. You should expect humor and jokes in a Scream movie, but the humor in this one went overboard.

3. Overall:

The movie succeeds in making a statement.

3/5 stars out of 5

[Apocalypto]

I think it's becoming more and more clear that Friday the 13th didn't "survive" anything, and just got really lucky with a great release date. Let's see how Scream 4 does the rest of the weekend and in coming weeks before making any kind of definitive claims.

Yeah, but terrible legs or not, F13 was pretty successful. $65 mill was a good haul whether they made a huge chunk of it all at once or just had a much smaller opening and had decent legs.

I'm kinda shocked this thing didn't have a HUGE opening.

I thought it'd do atleast $40 mill opening and $100 mill total.

I don't see this having the killer legs of the first two. At this point, it looks like it'll top out around the same as F13 with a much weaker opening and much better legs, but still probably not great legs. It has Fast Five and Thor and whatever else to deal with in upcoming weeks.

[The Dream Master]

I didn't deny that Friday '09 was successful; it certainly was. But I would be really, really interested to know how well it would have done had it opened on a date other than a Friday the 13th right before Valentine's Day. It had the right place at the right time, and the fact that it's been pretty much all quiet on the sequel front tells me that the studios know this too.

As for Scream, I never thought it would do the $40-50 million estimates it was getting. I thought $30 million would be good, so I'm still surprised it's kind of underwhelming. Maybe no one told all these experts the dirty secret that A.) the horror audience is smaller than anyone realizes, and B.) a lot of horror fans don't like Scream.

So that leaves us with today's younger audiences who may or may not have seen the first three, and people who did see them when they came out and are now like...30 years old and probably have no interest. Maybe it isn't that surprising after all.

[SlasherFreak]

Well, curiosity has overcome me and the wife, so I'm gonna catch the 10:50 show.

[Darth Sinister]

What's the box office take on the other films that opened yesterday? And don't forget that with the economy being as it is, box office performence will be affected. A lot of good movies that came out the last few months didn't make nearly as much as predicted.

[Hypnocil]

Call me crazy, but I have the distinct impression that Hayden Panetierre's Kirby character is not dead, and will return in the next one as the new Randy. The last time you see Kirby, she's still moving...and frankly Dewey's endured far worse and is just fine now.

Also, I've read about two supposed scenes that were trimmed from the movie, one involving the group of teens at what I'm guessing is the fountain from the first movie, and the second involves Kirby telling Sidney that her family had moved into Stu Macher's old house (and that they would receive "visits" from Stab enthusiasts until around Stab 5 came out, when the fandom thinned out, lol).

[The Tall Man]

So I just saw this today. Not even a fan of the original Scream, this was pretty good. It's probably Wes Craven's best film since "Scream 2." Hell, maybe his ONLY good film since "Scream 2."

Can somebody tell me what the deputy said when she showed off the bulletproof vest at the end? Two women were talking through the whole damned movie and I missed that line and a couple more.

Setting up everyone as possible suspects got really old and annoying to me. And I didn't find the "twist" to be especially satisfactory. Jill looked like Sidney could have snapped her in half. It was like being assaulted by Adrian.

How were the crowds when you guys saw the film? I walked in at screening time and the theater was empty except for about 10 people or so, two of which were the aforementioned douchebag women.

I'll give this a hearty ***, even with its annoying-as-hell prologue.

Sidney was bad ass in this one, not running and hiding anymore. She actually chased the killer at some points in the movie.
She had quite a mule kick in this one.

Why did that turn me on?

It had the right place at the right time, and the fact that it's been pretty much all quiet on the sequel front tells me that the studios know this too.
DM, I was told by folks working at WB that Friday 13 got shitcanned because of how atrocious Not-Nightmare was. WB execs were sick of Platinum Dunces and just killed their Nightmare and Friday sequels outright when Not-Nightmare did piss-poorly. This is what I was told.

T.M., Esq.

[Apocalypto]

What's the box office take on the other films that opened yesterday? And don't forget that with the economy being as it is, box office performence will be affected. A lot of good movies that came out the last few months didn't make nearly as much as predicted.

I know that Rio, some animated film, made a little more than Scream and is practically a guarantee to beat it for #1 over the weekend.

[Westin]

Yeah, Scream is sadly #2 this weekend.

[sam hane]

Can somebody tell me what the deputy said when she showed off the bulletproof vest at the end? Two women were talking through the whole damned movie and I missed that line and a couple more.

I believe she said Wear the vest, protect your chest

[The Dream Master]

Everything I'm reading is saying that it's going to be a down weekend overall at the box office, but damn, I went out today to see The Conspirator, and I have not seen a theater so packed in years. Lots of kids/families, so I suspect Rio and that other animated movie (Hop?) are going to make decent money this weekend.

DM, I was told by folks working at WB that Friday 13 got shitcanned because of how atrocious Not-Nightmare was. WB execs were sick of Platinum Dunces and just killed their Nightmare and Friday sequels outright when Not-Nightmare did piss-poorly. This is what I was told.

Yeah, but they don't need PD to make a new F13. You would think that fact would have them cranking out a new one even more quickly. I still say if you put F13 on just about any other weekend in 2009, it wouldn't have made nearly as much. Still would have been successful (and probably more successful than Scream 4, but, then again, it was marketed as a remake/reboot, which is more appealing to most audiences, like it or not).

[Westin]

I sincerely hope that Scream 4 makes a lot of money. I like Bob Weinstein, Kevin Williansom and Wes Craven. And with New Line now being part of the WB, it seems that Dimension/The Weinstein Company is the only studio out there that still manages to give a special treatment to horror franchises from the late-70's,80's and 90's (Halloween, Hellraiser, Children of the Corn and Scream).

[SlasherFreak]

Ehhh...nowhere near as good as the original, way better than 2 and 3, but thats not saying much.

6/10

[The Tall Man]

I believe she said Wear the vest, protect your chest
I love advice that rhymes... Thank you, sir.

I sincerely hope that Scream 4 makes a lot of money.
Yeah. Craven doesn't deserve to make an actual GOOD movie and have it tank too.

T.M., Esq.

[Cody]

Hopefully I'll be seeing this movie later today. Too late. This is the first time I'll be going into a Scream movie already knowing the killer's identity and motivation... Posted without warning in the top comment of a YouTube video only tangentially related. Stupid me, that's what I get for daring to be on the internets.

[Andiac]

Hopefully I'll be seeing this movie later today. Too late. This is the first time I'll be going into a Scream movie already knowing the killer's identity and motivation... Posted without warning in the top comment of a YouTube video only tangentially related. Stupid me, that's what I get for daring to be on the internets.

That sucks I'm sorry Cody! Completely unfair to find out without wanting to know.

I remember when FvJ was coming out a friend told me how it ended. Thankfully he was stupid and told me a previous abandoned script ending. But he thought it was real. I was so upset that he would willingly ruin a film I was eagerly looking forward to.

So I know how it feels.

BTW my weekend estimate prediction is between 30-35million.

Anyone else want to play prediction game with me? I guess I should have asked sooner...

[Hypnocil]

She had quite a mule kick in this one.
Indeed she did! That one kick sent the killer literally flying through the air. I did appreciate that.

DM, I was told by folks working at WB that Friday 13 got shitcanned because of how atrocious Not-Nightmare was. WB execs were sick of Platinum Dunces and just killed their Nightmare and Friday sequels outright when Not-Nightmare did piss-poorly. This is what I was told.

You think they'll do another one with a different production company? Or handle it in-house?

Leave it to Not-Nightmare to cock-block Friday fans! :shifty:

How were the crowds when you guys saw the film?
I went to a matinee around 2 p.m. There were roughly twenty people seeing it at that time.

[SlasherFreak]

So, did the media not realize yet that Sidney's cousin was the killer as they were praising her as a hero?

[Apocalypto]

No, they didn't know yet. The only people that knew were the ones in the room at the time at that point.

[The Tall Man]

Hyp, I honestly couldn't say.

Di, that confusled me too. I suppose Craven was going for an ironic, albeit happy, ending.

T.M., Esq.

[Westin]

I disliked the ending. Strongly. They lost the opportunity to do something amazing:

Gale should have gone downstairs, stole a microphone from one of the stupid reporters praising Jill, and said:

"Hi, this is Gale Weathers with an exclusive eyewitness account of this amazing breaking story..."

Epic ending.

[SlasherFreak]

I thought it shoulda ended 10 minutes earlier.

[Sean [The Wildcard]]

I really enjoyed it. Had a great time, and it was great to see the gang back on the screen again. Made me feel the way I did when I saw the original in theaters back in 1996...I was 10.

A little bummed that this scene (http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2340338432/tt1262416) wasn't in the movie.

[Andiac]

Oh dear, my 30-35million predictio was way off. A bit disappointing the opening weekend... 19 million roughly.

I am sure with international box office and DVD sales the film will be financially successful tho.

Wasn't there a line in the trailer when Gale is being attacked in the barn and she says something like: "Go ahead, do it if you have the guts?"

Wasn't in the movie.

[sam hane]

There were several things from ads not in the film, I'm hoping for a directors cut on bluray OR deleted scenes included.

[Cody]

Slight success! Turns out I was only half spoiled, so I still got 50% of the mystery and surprise.

I enjoyed the movie. It took me a while to get into it, but I thought it got better as it went along and I was really liking it by the end. I didn't like it as much as 1 or 2, but better than 3.

[The 5th Golden Girl]

I can't believe Sidney, Gale, and Dewey all survived. At least one of three should have died.

[Joshg]

I can't believe Sidney, Gale, and Dewey all survived. At least one of three should have died.

Preferably the latter.

[The Tall Man]

You're both crazy. That is all.

Shots and footage cut from the final print are used in trailers all the time.

T.M., Esq.

[Cody]

I can't believe Sidney, Gale, and Dewey all survived. At least one of three should have died.

I would've hated that. Then I'd be upset that this movie ruined the proper ending that 3 gave them all... I knew Sidney would survive, I didn't know if Gale would. When she was in danger, that was the only time this movie had me concerned about anyone. But in the end, the characters got a "new adventure" tacked on to the trilogy and their ending remains largely unblemished. Until 5 anyway.

Speaking of 5, we should get an official announcement soon if the Dimension streak of announcing sequels immediately after underperforming opening weekends continues.

[The Dream Master]

Hey, that's right. It's not like Piranha lit the box office on fire, yet they're making another one.

[Apocalypto]

They also want to do Halloween 3, a follow up to an underperforming film that most people hate.

I think S5 will definitely get made, there's room for concern about who from the original will be involved though.

[idolone]

I saw it this weekend and really enjoyed it. Let's face it, there hasn't really been a good slasher movie in the theater in a while, and this one really delivered the goods. It wasn't perfect: I didn't like the intro. The comedy was a bit too much. The kills weren't creative enough. Character development was minimal. But I liked how they managed to stay away from cliche and genuinely surprise me. The social commentary was right on, and there were so many things to like about the film. It was way better than 3, and pretty much on the same level as 2.

Regarding the ending I like how the reporters had it wrong. In a way it mirrored the original film,showed how easy it is to manipulate the media, and played on what we as an audience expected (a pass the torch kind of film).

The movie was clever, and in many ways I think it's a bit more clever than some people may realize. As I think about the movie, there are more and more things that I'm discovering.

[Rick]

I really enjoyed the first Scream, but didn't like the sequels.
I was looking forward to this, but with everyone comparing it to part 2 I'm starting to lose any bit of excitement I had gained.
I think I'll be seeing it this week and have been avoiding the spoilers hoping that'll help.

[Jus-X]

I'm jealous of you all. With my injuries i can't sit for too long, which means my aspirations of seeing this on my birthday have gonew away. :(

[Just Jeans]

Do like I do when I go the cinema, Justyn: either suck it up and deal with it, or take a generous helping of pain killers and enjoy the ride (I hope they gave you vicodin; it helps enormously).

Intolerable theater seating is why I don't go to the cinema very often. I'm gonna get a heaping dish of physical agony with a side order of numb leg sitting through Scream 4, but by God I intend to do it. This, Silent Hill 2 and The Deathly Hallows part 2 are the only films I intend to tough it out for this year.

[i am SAW]

i don't know if i can describe how much i LOVED this movie, but i'll try.

i already seen it 3 times this weekend.


the opening scene, genius. Anna Paquin & Kristen Bell, AWESOME!

I thought it was a perfect blend of ceomedy and horror. I never thought it was cheesy (unlike Scream 3 which was one big cheesefest).

the ending, OH MY GOD!!!

I think I liked it better than Scream 1’s ending.

I think I like the killer better than Billy & Stu.

it was Emma Roberts, OH FUCK! I never in a million years would have expected HER to be the killer in this, much less one of my favorite female horror villains, but now she is. What a great acting job, from playing the innocent little typical girl, to becoming a ssuper psycho bitch. When she was hurting herself and started running and slammed her face into the wall, HAHAHAHA!!!!!!

also when she was going on her rant about always living in Sydney’s shadow and never being her own person, I swear it felt like she was talking about her real aunt, Julia Roberts, LOL.

BTW, they do NOT “diss” SAW. There’s a conversation between 2 girls about it, one likes it and one hates it. so it was a well balanaced mention, if you ask me.

How about the movie posters in the club classroom? I take it those are all movies that Wes likes? Most of them were his movies, The Hills Have Eyes, Feast, but I also noticed Wolf Creek and I was surprised to see RZ’s H2 up there.

Friggin AWESOME movie. I expected complete shit, like Scream 3, but what a pleasant surprise!

i really like Scream 2, but this actually even alot better than that.

Scream 1 is a classic, but you know what, i might like this one even better.

[Westin]

I was surprised to see RZ’s H2 up there.


hey, what studio produced H2 again? Oh right. ;)

Neve Campbell said that if they do a SCREAM 5, they should do it now because it'd be easier on all of them.

Scream 4 was very difficult to make, supposedly, due to creative differences between Kevin Williamson and Bob Weinstein, among other things.

Scream 4 may not have made millions in its opening weekend, but it has definitely made some noise... the fans are pleased, most reviews have been positive. Perhaps the noise the movie is making will attract more people and more $ will be made.

[Hypnocil]

I think S5 will definitely get made, there's room for concern about who from the original will be involved though.

So far Williamson has said he'd return. Neve Campbell (http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/04/14/scream-4-neve-campbell-on-the-films-difficult-production/) has also said she'd return.

If Sidney lives in Scream 4, would you do another Scream?
Yeah, I think I would.

Despite this one having a tumultuous production?
Yeah, I mean, I’d love to have a script sooner than we did [laughs]. But you know what? I have a feeling that would happen. I’m sure if there was another one, Bob [Weinstein] would wanna have a script ready sooner because it would be easier on us all.
Wes Craven (http://www.movieline.com/2011/04/wes-craven-talks-scream-4-scream-5-and-beyond.php)also seems fairly keen on returning, as well.

Where do you see horror going next? Trends change constantly, new countries breed their own cinematic movements, new gimmicks pop up and are almost immediately exhausted.
Yeah — it’s a river, it’s not a pond, that’s for sure. It’s always moving, never quite staying in the same place twice. I think it’s more just keeping our eyes and ears to the ground about what’s going on, keeping our fingers on the pulse and all those clichés. [Screenwriter Kevin Williamson] is very, very good at that; he works with a lot of young people, and I work with a lot of young people, so we just kind of watch what’s happening and base our stories on the significance of things that are going down, both in the community of young people and also in the world itself. Computers, or phones that can do sixteen things at the same time, or social networks — these things are here, they’re enormously influential, they give great opportunity for both good and evil, and it’s almost impossible to do a film about kids without going to this meta aspect of things, now.

As a viewer, are there trends in horror that you think have been done to death and should be retired?
Well, I think we did that, in a sense. Staying out of it for ten years, we let a lot happen — not that we allow anything to happen, but it gave us enough time to be able to take an overview of a full decade. But, you know, if there’s a Scream 5 we will be immediately faced with the challenge of making it fresh and trying to invent where horror goes — at least, our part of it. For right now, I think we feel like we kind of defined where the Scream horror film is by making it.

Considering where you go in Scream 4, it seems exhaustive to even begin thinking of a way to top it in Scream 5. Doesn’t continuing this particular series mean the bar must be set higher and higher for any future sequels?
Yeah, it does! [Laughs] But in a way that’s the great thing about it. It keeps you from being lazy because you set the bar so high that the next time you have to jump the bar up a notch. And if you can’t do that, then you should retire. But now that we’ve finished this film — or virtually finished it, we’ve certainly delivered the print and all that — there is an exhaustion. I know I’m going to go someplace and sleep for six weeks. And I can’t imagine going out and doing it again now, when every muscle in my body is aching from the physical exertion and lack of sleep for a year and a half.

Of course.
But then there comes a point when your body restores itself and your mind restores itself and you start to have ideas, and that’s kind of how it goes in art in general, I think. You pour everything you’ve got into a project, it does take everything that you can possibly give it, and you kind of have to fall back and regroup when it’s done. But you have the pleasure of having done something kind of extraordinary, and the body does repair itself. So if that happens we might well be doing a Scream 5 at some point.

Considering the scripting issues that came up on Scream 4, I imagine it will take a fair amount of time for you to develop a Scream 5 script that you’re happy with. Do you think any of the possible ideas Kevin lined out for you for Scream 5 and beyond will be what you eventually go with, and how long of a wait do you foresee until the next film comes to fruition?
You know, I honestly have not thought about it. Kevin right now is in the middle of starting a new television show, so now he’s got two shows on the air, so my guess is he won’t be devoting much time to it until he’s completed those seasons. But he’ll probably be thinking of it in his idle moments, if he has any. Right now I think everyone’s just ecstatic that [Scream 4] is done, that it turned out extremely well and that people seem to like it, and taking a breath. Not thinking, “Oh, what’s the next one going to be?” And I know some of the things that Kevin outlined for the trilogy were made impossible by later developments of the script, just didn’t make it through. But in general, the basic idea of what he’s come up with will survive and be able to be made into something really interesting. It depends, on this case, on Kevin — or some other writer coming up with an idea. That’s not an impossible option, either.

You’ve explored filmmaking outside of the genre a few times. Once you’re done recovering from Scream 4, do you think you’ll pursue more non-horror projects? Is that an idea that calls to you?
It does call to me. In some ways, My Soul to Take was stretching the genre in a way that, to me, was very interesting. Obviously that film didn’t do nearly as well as I thought it would; we took some big risks, and maybe it will take a while for the audience to catch up with that particular film. But we’re already getting scripts that are much farther from the genre that you would call a slasher film. Straight drama and things of that sort. So we’ll be sorting through all of that stuff. I think at this point I’ve been directing long enough and have enough examples of things outside of the genre out there that people are intrigued by the idea. There is always the problem of an audience not wanting to go see a Wes Craven film [in another genre]. They might think that the other film was going to be bad. But I did feel this message was out there from various people — “We’d go see something else that you’d do.” So that might be fun to pursue.

I guess the Arquettes could be a wild card due to their rocky relationship, but Courteney Cox (http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/04/12/scream-4-courteney-cox/) has said there were no problems between them while filming, and overall she really liked returning. I also remember she confirmed a Scream 5 and 6 once (though nothing else).

[The Dark Vampire]

I guess the Arquettes could be a wild card due to their rocky relationship, but Courteney Cox (http://insidemovies.ew.com/2011/04/12/scream-4-courteney-cox/) has said there were no problems between them while filming, and overall she really liked returning. I also remember she confirmed a Scream 5 and 6 once (though nothing else).

I suppose if they had to get rid of one of them they could either say Gail died due to unknown computations after 4 or just have 1 of them come back for a opening scene where they get killed off and the other can do the rest of the movie/s

[Lance Lives]

I also thought it was ridiculous that there was an H2 poster in between posters of Dawn of the Dead and The Thing.