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Just Jeans
11-04-2009, 04:52 AM
So it's a passing of the torch film, I sort of expected that, especially if this is a new trilogy.
The more I hear, the more I think the basic idea will be someone trying to "remake" the original killings, the new group will be the kids who are being stalked, and it's up to Sidney, Dewey and Gale to try and prevent a repeat of what happened to them all those years ago.
Jus-X
11-04-2009, 03:01 PM
I just hope they somehow bring back Jamie Kennedy's character back in 4 to explain the rules of a saga... :)
Darth Sinister
11-04-2009, 08:43 PM
And 6th as well, since he mentions "the next three." I'm all for this shit to be honest. Surprised the reaction around the net seems to be so lukewarm.
I think the novelty of the series has worn off.
The Dream Master
11-04-2009, 09:22 PM
I think it did that ten years ago. :X
Seems like horror fans would be excited to see the return of a well-regarded franchise; of course, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Scream is now looked on as an overrated, terrible franchise. Horror fans are strange that way.
Just Jeans
11-04-2009, 10:00 PM
I think Scream did a service to the genre when it was introduced in 1996. It revitalized a genre that was poking along on life support. But as a horror film, it's pretty standard fare. Apart from the quality of the cast, it didn't break a lot of new ground, and if Scream 4 is more of the same, I could see why it might get a tame response.
SlasherFreak
11-04-2009, 10:02 PM
Me personally...I never ever cared about Scream 2 or 3...I thought they sucked.
Granted at the time of the release of 2 and 3...I wasn't on the internet scanning message boards and reading reviews and stuff. A few of my personal horror fan friends didnt care for 2 or 3...but I don't know the general overall reaction. So the lukewarm response didn't suprise me.
I mean....do alot of people really like the trilogy as a whole? I don't think I've seen 2 or 3 since the year of the their releases...the first one I hold in high regard though.
The Dream Master
11-04-2009, 10:13 PM
I dunno, I know a lot of people were lukewarm towards 3 back in the day (and for good reason--it's got a load of problems). The first two I thought were fairly popular, and, despite the lackluster third entry, I figured it was still a pretty well-regarded franchise. I mean, F13 has managed to stay popular, and it seems like most of its biggest fans don't even like half the movies. :X
But as a horror film, it's pretty standard fare. Apart from the quality of the cast, it didn't break a lot of new ground, and if Scream 4 is more of the same, I could see why it might get a tame response.
I think it was basically like the 80s slashers/body count movies, but with a nice, glossy paint job. I think it would have been hard for it to break new ground considering the sub-genre it was representing; instead, I just think it ended up being one of the finest of its type.
Just Jeans
11-04-2009, 10:42 PM
I think it's possible to break new ground within the sub-genre -- SAW comes to mind -- but slasher fans are a particular sort. If the films stray too far from the tried-and-true formula, they scoff. It's a blessing and a curse, that dedication. It keeps the sub-genre of the slasher film from expanding, because if a film gets too broad it becomes something that slasher fans can't identify with (that's why high concept slasher films, like Vidocq, will never take off with slasher fans. It tries to be more than just an out-and-out slasher film, and as a result a lot genre fans would tell you it isn't even a slasher film.)
The Dream Master
11-04-2009, 10:50 PM
Well, I would argue that Saw isn't exactly in the body count/slasher genre, particular the former, but I think that speaks to your point that changing things so much makes things unrecognizable. At first glance, it's easy to lump Saw in with slashers and movies like that because it seems to be about watching people die, but it also offers so much more in the way of plot and other thematic material that it's hard to throw it in with Friday the 13th and its ilk.
I get the feeling that a lot of fans didn't like the perception that Scream was making fun of slasher films, when in reality, it was about as nice of a love-letter to that particular sub-genre that you're likely to see from a major Hollywood studio. The references (both obvious and obscure) in that film are unbelievable, and you'd think the slasher nuts would eat it up. But, then again, that's got to be the strangest breed of fan around.
Just Jeans
11-05-2009, 01:57 AM
Well, I would argue that Saw isn't exactly in the body count/slasher genre, particular the former, but I think that speaks to your point that changing things so much makes things unrecognizable.
That pretty much embodies my problem with the limitations of the sub-genre as it is currently perceived by... well, most everyone.
I think slasher films ought to be able to do those sorts of things with plot and thematic elements without being excluded from the sub-genre. Guys like Romero seem to be able to get away with it in his zombie flicks, but if a slasher film comes along that actually has something to say -- or that at the very least has more thematic impact than your typical slasher film -- people want to distance the film from the sub-genre. It's like associating the film with other slasher/gore flicks somehow sullies the content that isn't splatter.
To use another example -- Shaun of the Dead and Zombieland both incorporate a lot of humor and slapstick (especially Zombieland, if the trailer is anything to go by) but people don't exclude them from the zombie sub-genre as a result. These films are pretty much accepted in spite of their hybrid nature, and I think films like SAW ought to be accepted in the same way.
I get the feeling that a lot of fans didn't like the perception that Scream was making fun of slasher films, when in reality, it was about as nice of a love-letter to that particular sub-genre that you're likely to see from a major Hollywood studio.
Yeah, I noticed that too. The film was misinterpreted by a goodly few people, but it seemed like with time they began to appreciate it for what it was. But now the slasher sub-genre -- and horror in general -- is once again a booming enterprise, and Scream may seem like an odd fit in the current marketplace to some. Which is why I think it needs to play up the remake trend rather than presenting itself as just another sequel. It'll get people's attention.
The Dream Master
11-05-2009, 07:41 PM
http://www.dreadcentral.com/img/news/nov09/afmscream41sa.jpg
Jus-X
11-05-2009, 08:17 PM
http://www.dreadcentral.com/img/news/nov09/afmscream41sa.jpg
I wonder if the killer will be big and buff and stomp people to death while roaring like a rabid lion?
I'm interested in this again. I still suspect they will go the "remake" route.
mirage2130
11-06-2009, 09:20 PM
I really think that this teaser poster is pretty lazy.
http://www.dreadcentral.com/img/news/nov09/afmscream41sa.jpg
Notti
11-06-2009, 09:21 PM
http://www.dreadcentral.com/img/news/nov09/afmscream41sa.jpg
Haha is that for real!?
Jus-X
11-07-2009, 03:17 PM
I don't think it is Notti. You would think the teaser poster would look scary. Maybe "just the ghostface." But this poster has a backgound to it? I don't know man. It doesnt' look like something that would be professionally done.
The Dream Master
11-08-2009, 07:46 AM
It's real. Debuted at AFM.
jasonlives13
11-08-2009, 12:40 PM
Doesnt look real, I have a feeling it will have a tag line
The Dream Master
11-08-2009, 05:22 PM
Yes, it is certainly real promo art. It's not an official teaser, but it's what Dimension brought to AFM to promote it.
Proof that it's not some fan-made artwork created in Photoshop:
http://shocktillyoudrop.com/nextraimages/scream-4-poster.jpg
Just Jeans
11-09-2009, 07:59 AM
It's the sort of cheap quick-job you'd expect from Dimension, really.
French Friday
11-09-2009, 09:07 AM
Cheap but effective. I was missing Ghostface. Nice to see him again.
I only hope the new movie will keep the tone of the first, and not take itself too seriously like the second and not too goofy like the third. The first one had the perfect tone. Bring it back !
Also, as I was disappointed with the third entry, this new trilogy could fix that, especially if it succeed in switching the central point from Sydney to Ghostface. And now 10 years have passed, I think it can work with Ghostface becoming a kind of icon that would be imitated in that universe, but not necessarily to kill Sydney and friends again and again. Just use the 4th movie to make Ghostface a character more than just a disguise and try to work a kind of urban legend around it. Don't know exactly how.
Just Jeans
11-09-2009, 11:59 AM
Cheap but effective.
Not particularly. It looks like a million fan made Scream sequel posters. It's not distinctive, it's not gripping, and the Ghostface mask looks off. Dimension could have come up with something a lot better for about the same money.
Sean [The Wildcard]
11-09-2009, 12:01 PM
For a "HEY! We're making a part four!" poster, it's alright.
I'm sure once filming is underway, and all things of the sort, we'll be getting better posters. I wonder though...will we see the typical Scream posters? You know what I mean...
Just Jeans
11-09-2009, 12:09 PM
I've no doubt at all there will be a better poster -- I imagine it'll fit the same basic template of the previous film posters, probably a close up of someone's surprised face with a lot of head shots of the core cast -- but as far as shoddy teaser posters go, this one's pretty near the bottom of the pile. I could have thrown the same thing together in Photoshop in about five minutes, and I'm nothing.
Jus-X
11-09-2009, 02:14 PM
With a lot of head shots of the core cast. -Jeans
Kinda makes me think that H20 and Res were trying to build off of the success of Scream. That's how the Halloween posters looked. I didn't think about it until now, but it's like taking Ghostface off a poster and putting MM into the poster made it a whole "new" movie.
The Dream Master
11-09-2009, 05:15 PM
It is just a quick and dirty sales promo. AFM isn't necessarily a con like Comic-Con; it's an industry trade show designed to market films and attract financial backers and distributors. This was basically just Dimension announcing "hey, we really are doing this!" Knowing their financial woes, they're probably looking for someone to distribute it for them.
MysterioMan007
11-09-2009, 07:02 PM
I'm amped for this. After a decade of Japanese evil long-haired girl remakes and torture porn, this is going to be refreshing for me. I can see Sydney dying in the opening scene, but I don't see any problem with keeping Dewey and Gale around since they weren't really part of the teen crowd in the first trilogy. Dewey could be sheriff or something and Gale still be the reporter. I just hope it's a lot better than Part 3. I loved the first and think the second is criminally underrated.
I think the remake stuff is probably where they're going. I don't think they could get away with not going that direction. Hope he fits in a rib at Rob Zombie somewhere actually.
As for the poster, it's hard to make a poster for a movie they haven't started filming yet. It'll get better once the movie actually gets into production, though it seems that it has been an unbelievably long amount of time that Williamson is taking to write the script.
Hockey Mask
11-09-2009, 07:46 PM
I have invested a lot of time waiting for Dewey to die. It's time.
The Tall Man
11-09-2009, 11:53 PM
Kinda makes me think that H20 and Res were trying to build off of the success of Scream. That's how the Halloween posters looked. I didn't think about it until now, but it's like taking Ghostface off a poster and putting MM into the poster made it a whole "new" movie.
There's H20 the film itself in a nutshell!
T.M., Esq.
Just Jeans
11-10-2009, 01:41 AM
It is just a quick and dirty...
That's an understatement, mang. :X
There's H20 the film itself in a nutshell!
It even used the score from Scream, didn't it?
Voorheeszilla
11-10-2009, 02:51 AM
I was really skeptical about this film at first but with Neve Campbell and the gang returning, I'm a lot more optimistic about this film. Chances are I'll see it opening day when it's released in theaters.
The Tall Man
11-10-2009, 03:26 AM
Jeans, indeed it did... despite the fact John Ottman had already composed a whole complete original score for the film.
T.M., Esq.
The Dream Master
11-11-2009, 07:50 PM
Williamson Speaks (http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=12766)
Kevin Williamson is juggling a lot of projects, but the one we're keeping a careful eye on is Scream 4 (check out AFM teaser art).
In a recent interview with the NY Post's PopWrap, Williamson - who is still writing the sequel - addressed recent rumors about killing off Sidney Prescott (returning actress Neve Campbell) by saying, "The thing about Scream 4 is that there are a lot of twists and turns, so I can't promise anything. There are a lot of moving pieces, so we'll see - but if you're a Scream fan, I think you're really going to like it."
While the initial Scream trilogy took its cue from '80s slasher films, the upcoming films will have to comment on horror in the last decade. Williamson says much of Scream 4 is inspired by "manga comics, Asian ghost girl movies, there's some PG-13 horror movies in there, vampire movies, M. Night Shyamalan movies and torture porn movies, even though they've come and gone."
He maintains that the film will have its fair share of wit, but it still needs to be scary. For more click here.
Sean [The Wildcard]
11-11-2009, 07:57 PM
I guess I can assuredly say that they're going to be tackling alot of crap that has been coming out for the genre.
And I know Williamson is smart enough when tackling those.
It's just that...even when reading that, it sounded like one of those shitty "_____ MOVIE" ideas.:shifty:
The Dream Master
11-11-2009, 07:58 PM
Not going to lie, I thought the same thing, Sean. :X
Brett H.
11-11-2009, 08:10 PM
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6031/lugeru.jpg
Just Jeans
11-12-2009, 12:41 AM
Not going to lie, I thought the same thing, Sean. :X
And me. :X
French Friday
11-12-2009, 10:04 AM
It just sounds like Scary Movie 5, but as Scary Movie was the original title for Scream, it's logical ! :D
Hopefully it will be a "serious" horror movie ala Scream 1 and not a parody ala Scream 3.
andrew8798
11-17-2009, 12:25 AM
Courteney Cox Talks Scream 4
Courteney Cox hinted to The Associated Press what the setting might be for Scream 4. Cox reunites in the fourth installment with her real-life husband David Arquette and Neve Campbell, who plays the series' lead character, Sidney Prescott.
"There are really only a few of us that survived," Cox said, but she shrugged off rumors that her character, Gale Weathers, and Arquette's Dwight "Dewey" Riley will be killed off at the beginning of the film.
"They're probably back living in Woodsboro," Cox added, "I think that he's probably still deputy, and I've had a lot of kids. I don't know. I'm probably miserable, and then I'm sure a lot of murdering will happen."
It's interesting that she worded her quotes as if she doesn't know the plot, but with her signed on one would think she has some idea.
Kevin Williamson is currently working on the script. He told the New York Post recently that "there are a lot of twists and turns, so I can't promise anything. There are a lot of moving pieces, so we'll see -- but if you're a 'Scream' fan, I think you're really going to like it."
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=60927
Melanie Jarvis
11-17-2009, 01:53 AM
I know there seems to be mixed feelings regarding this franchise, but I have always found the Scream films to be highly enjoyable and I am so excited for the next movie. It's actually odd because I am rarely excited when it comes to newer horror films. I guess I'm just relieved that it's not a remake.
Voorheeszilla
01-07-2010, 07:19 AM
Any new news on this? I haven't been keeping up lately.
The Dream Master
01-25-2010, 11:01 PM
An update: (http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2010/01/18/exclusive-david-arquette-confirms-wes-craven-is-in-for-scream-4/)
In the twilight months of 2009, "Scream 4" went from fan fantasy to in-development reality. Series creator Kevin Williamson almost lost his star, Neve Campbell. He later told us, in November, that the writing of the sequel "going good." Just a month later, Campbell said pretty much the same thing, revealing that shooting would get underway in April '10 and that she was "pretty sure" director Wes Craven would be back to direct.
There's never been any official confirmation in that regard. So tonight on the red carpet at the Golden Globe Awards, MTV's Josh Horowitz hit up happy couple and "Scream" stars David Arquette and Courteney Cox for the latest word on Craven and all things "Scream"...
"Yes, Wes [Craven] is in, Neve [Campbell] is in, everyone is in," Arquette said. The lovely Cox didn't sound as sure however.
"I know they're trying to make that work," she said, referring to bringing the "Nightmare on Elm Street" creator back on to direct. "They'll make it work," she said, quickly adding "I hope."
The two seem excited to get back to their "Scream" roles. It's not only a high-profile gig; the happily married couple also met while shooting "Scream." It's no surprise that they're game to go back for more.
"I can't wait to do another 'Scream,'" David told us. Soon enough. If all goes according to plan, the cameras will start rolling sometime in April.
This is great news. I look forward to seeing what they do this time around.
Voorheeszilla
01-26-2010, 04:01 AM
Really looking forward to this, and I'm glad we finally got an update, but c'mon, why does Courtney have to the odd one out who doesn't seem so sure? :confused:
Sean [The Wildcard]
01-26-2010, 08:56 AM
Probably because she isn't so sure with her career. ;)
I mean, come on. Cougar Town? Really?
Doing another Scream film for her is really all she's got left in life.
Voorheeszilla
01-26-2010, 02:20 PM
I was just going to say "what else could she be possibly doing" but Sean got to it before me. :p Sean, you speaketh the truth.
Jus-X
01-26-2010, 02:59 PM
;386247']Probably because she isn't so sure with her career. ;)
I mean, come on. Cougar Town? Really?
Doing another Scream film for her is really all she's got left in life.
Yeah I woulda said the same thing... my opinon... she should come film a few days worth and atleast get her character killed off. My two cents. She'll still be able to do Cougartown and show her face for a bit in S4
Just Jeans
01-26-2010, 03:04 PM
;386247']I mean, come on. Cougar Town? Really?
The pilot was pretty good. Bill Lawrence hasn't made a duff series yet, so I don't expect he'll start now (plus he's put his wife Christa Miller in it, and I'm totally hot for her, so it's win-win).
Doing another Scream film for her is really all she's got left in life.
And a second season of Cougar Town. :)
Interview: Kevin Williamson (http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&%20id=8217:interview-kevin-williamson-and-his-vampire-diaries-plus-hes-al%20most-done-with-the-scream-4-script&catid=44:interviews&Itemid=%20172)
Q: Are you working on any film projects right now?
Kevin: I'm almost done with the first draft of Scream 4. I'm trying to get that together for Wes Craven. We've got to get going on that, during the hiatus. We have Neve Campbell, Courteney Cox and Dave Arquette. I was always holding out hope because the pitch was about those three characters. I didn't want to have to re-route the whole story. We don't have to do that. I can do it exactly the way I want wanted. The story is going to be told the way I originally conceived it.
Q: Is that going to be part of a new trilogy?
Kevin: I've been contracted to write Scream 4 and 5.
Q: That's not a trilogy.
Kevin: Well, I'm not going to negotiate 6 right away.
Q: Horror films have undergone another shift, with the success of Paranormal Activity. Do you have a chance to update references to that in there?
Kevin: It's all in there.
Q: Would you shoot Scream 4 in the Atlanta area?
Kevin: I'd love to. When I went down there, I said, "This is so Woodsboro." It would be perfect, but that's Wes' decision. Pasadena would work, too. If Wes directs, and he will if I have anything to say about it, I'll camp out at his house.
Q: What do you think it will take to get Wes Craven to come back and direct?
Kevin: Oh, Wes is going to do it.
Q: Will Scream 4 be in 3-D?
Kevin: No. I don't think Scream lends itself to a 3-D film. 3-D films are all about things being thrown at you. One of the things that Scream does is that it talks about those movies and sends them up, so actually putting in that device probably wouldn't work. I don't think it's an option. We're the movie that makes fun of it. I can imagine Stab being done in 3-D, but not Scream.
Q: Is there anything that you can say about the story and set-up?
Kevin: No. I think I've revealed way too much already.
Q: Is it still a strong mystery of who this Ghostface will be?
Kevin: Well, that's the whole point of the movie. What I have always liked about this movie versus the other horror films is that I feel like there are characters. In other horror movies, you remember Michael Myers and you remember Jason. In our film, I think you remember Sidney Prescott because Sidney Prescott's the victim and she has lasted for all three of these movies. The fun of the film is that it's Sidney Prescott. That's the difference and you care about her. I want to write a story where you actually care about our characters and it's a plot that you watch them walk through. It's not all about the next kill. It's not all about slice and dice. I was watching Saw VI on pay per view the other night and I was like, "This is really just going from one kill to the next, to the next." It's fun, but I want to tell a story.
Q: You don't think Saw has managed to keep a story going with Part VI with a dead character?
Kevin: Oh, they're doing a great job keeping the dead character, but I want to know where our lead character is, where our protagonist is and what her journey is.
Q: Is it safe to say that you won't kill Sidney Prescott off in the first 10 minutes?
Kevin: The story has to start somewhere.
Voorheeszilla
01-29-2010, 09:36 PM
Sweet, thank God for no Scream in 3D.
Ditto on that last comment.
SpiderFace
01-30-2010, 12:23 AM
This should be interesting.
Just Jeans
01-30-2010, 02:15 AM
Williamson's attitude to 3D is a bit archaic.
Having said that, I'm not going to miss the 3D in this film.
Hockey Mask
01-30-2010, 04:56 AM
I hope 3-D dies a painfully horrific death.
Just Jeans
01-30-2010, 05:30 AM
Why? If you don't like it, you're perfectly able of seeing the films without the 3D effects. Why kill the format and spoil it for those of us who enjoy it when you can just see a traditional showing?
After the miserable box office failure of Avatar, I think 3-D's days are numbered.
The Dream Master
01-30-2010, 05:31 AM
After the miserable box office failure of Avatar, I think 3-D's days are numbered.
:lol: :lol:
Andiac
01-30-2010, 07:07 AM
I am happy that Scream 4 is being written by Williamson. I love the movies, I am very supportive of this one.
3D only works for certain films though. Scream wouldn't work 3D. It's more character driven, story driven, then kill driven.
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Cody, uhm, Avatar is like the biggest grossing film in like the last 4 years or something and it was in 3D in a few cinemas so why don't you uhm like shut up damn you know nothing about Steven Spielberg films!
Just Jeans
01-30-2010, 07:19 AM
I don't think a film needs to have even a single 3D gag to work. RealD looks gorgeous even without 3D objects coming at your face every 10 seconds (as Avatar demonstrated). I think everything -- from situation comedy to horror to sci-fi -- ought to be released in 2D and RealD stereoscopic 3D, because the illusion of depth adds a lot to a film, particularly if the direction is good. It's given me a reason to bother going to the cinema again.
Lucas has been going on about converting the original Star Wars trilogy into 3D and re-releasing them at the cinema. I hope he does. There's not a 3D gag to be found, but they would look beautiful in 3D.
Andiac
01-30-2010, 07:55 AM
Jeans you make a good point... RealD looks awesome for movies. Even when there isn't a sight gag, the depth of field is amazing.
However... 3D is about standing out and things flying at you. If the story doesn't call for it, I don't see it necessary. For a few reasons:
1) It's expensive. They use two cameras side by side. That's a lot of film used up.
2) Film/digital looks amazing, I love that look. 3D removes that 2D image I love. I love the artform of depth of field in a 2D image.
I guess I only had two reasons. :P
Anyways, on with Scream 4D! The audience dies with certain characters! :D
Darth Sinister
01-30-2010, 09:43 PM
Well, it's been said for some time that 3D was going to be a reason that could keep people going to the movies, rather than just waiting for the DVD or the bootleg download. Before long, we won't have 2D and 3D versions of a film. It'll be just 3D.
Voorheeszilla
01-31-2010, 04:24 AM
I can assure you 3D hasn't made me want to jump up & go to a theater.
Andiac
01-31-2010, 04:37 AM
I have been enjoying the emergence of low budget miniDV films that have been showing up. Like The Signal and Paranormal Activity. 3D will kill that kind of movie I think...
Anyway, maybe someone should create a 3D discussion thread? I don't wanna derail this thread...
Darth Sinister
01-31-2010, 08:24 PM
I can assure you 3D hasn't made me want to jump up & go to a theater.
There are a few exceptions, but so far, it's had the desired effect Hollywood has been looking for. Hence the increased number of films being made in that format.
Voorheeszilla
02-01-2010, 08:39 AM
I'm aware, I was just speaking for myself. It likely won't last long, though.
3D isn't getting me into theatres more often either.
If I'm not interested in the movie to begin with, 3D won't change that.
I saw the MBV remake because i wanted to see the actual movie, 3D was a fun bonus.
I didn't bother seeing Final Destination 3D because I don't care about the series. I probably won't see TCM 3D unless the trailer makes it look good, if not 3D won't change my mind.
I'm interested in H3D because I want to see a new Halloween movie ... unless by some crazy turn of events Zombie is involved again.
I didn't see Avatar because I just don't care to, 3D or not I'm just not interested.
They can make every movie 3D for all I care, i'm still not going to the theatre unless the movie itself looks like it will entertain me.
Cody, uhm, Avatar is like the biggest grossing film in like the last 4 years or something and it was in 3D in a few cinemas so why don't you uhm like shut up damn you know nothing about Steven Spielberg films!
I thought it was directed by James Cagney, that "top of the world" guy. :confused:
An LA Times Blog (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2010/02/wes-cravens-retirement-plan-my-goal-is-die-in-my-90s-on-the-set.html) on Wes Craven mentions -
And in May, he starts on “Scream 4.”
Penhall
02-20-2010, 07:52 AM
Yup, Craven confirmed for Scream 4.
http://www.reelempire.com/news/68-movies/1989-scream-4-begins-production-in-may
This is fantastic news, IMO. I love the Scream films and with Wes coming back and Kevin Williamson writing, I'm gonna be jizzing my shorts over this movie.
Wow Craven's back. That is crazy shit.
I'm not a huge fan of the series, but I did like part 1.
Williamson and Craven both being involved caught my interest though.
Hockey Mask
02-20-2010, 06:43 PM
This has some good things going for it. I'll be there opening day.
The Dream Master
03-23-2010, 05:21 AM
It's official: Scream 4 has been greenlit with Craven confirmed to direct (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/19559).
It looks like I'll be eating my words as Dimension Films has greenlit "Scream 4" to shoot this spring with a release date of April 12, 2011 -- more than a decade after "Scream 3." Wes Craven's directing and Neve Campbell, David Arquette and Courteney Cox Arquette are reprising their roles along with a group of young actors.
Dimension said its 2011 slate focuses on continuing its most successful franchises. The original "Scream" grossed more than $170 million worldwide in 1996; "Scream 2" also took in more than $170 million and "Scream 3" topped $160 million after it was released in 2000.
Craven helmed all three "Scream" pics with Campbell, Arquette and Cox Arquette starring.
"'Scream' has been such an integral part of Dimension's history, and I look forward to continuing the franchise," said Bob Weinstein, co-chairman of The Weinstein Co.
The Gunslinger
03-23-2010, 05:33 AM
The film is suppose to come out on a Tuesday? Aren't new DVD's released on Tuesdays? ;)
The Dream Master
03-23-2010, 05:39 AM
Haha, nice catch. That's Bloody-Disgusting for you (though they did get the date from Variety).
The Gunslinger
03-23-2010, 05:41 AM
Haha, nice catch. That's Bloody-Disgusting for you (though they did get the date from Variety).
The April release date doesn't make sense. I would take it as another bullshit rumor.
Weren't the first two released in December of '96 and '97? The third was supposed to be released in December as well but I remember reshoots pushed it back to February of '00.
It would make sense if this new one was released around the similar time.
The Dream Master
03-23-2010, 05:44 AM
The release date might just be a fuck up, but the greenlight and Craven being the director is pretty rock solid if it's coming from Variety.
Craven Tweeted (http://twitter.com/wescraven) confirmation.
ADDED:
Variety (http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118016770.html?categoryid=13&cs=1) fixed the date in their article
release date of April 15, 2011
The Gunslinger
03-24-2010, 05:18 AM
So we have a little over a year for them to get this ready. I'm sure we'll have a trailer by the time My Soul to Take is released.
Now let's guess who is going to be apart of the new cast.
SlasherFreak
03-24-2010, 06:06 AM
While I consider the original a classic love letter to slasher films, and have watched it a countless number of times, let's hope this is better than 2 and 3, which I maybe watched 2 or 3 times apiece, once to see them then again flipping around the channels and watching bits and pieces of them.
God of Thunder
03-24-2010, 06:31 AM
Ya know, I think SCREAM actually may have been the first slasher movie I ever watched. I know it was certainly the first I was ever familiar with (what with it being on TV all the time, and seeing the mask at Walmart for years). SCREAM, despite waht it may have started, is always going to b e a very special movie to me. I remember having a total love affair with the movie when I was in 2nd grade, in fact, for Halloween of '99 I went as Ghostface (even went to school dressed as Ghostface, as did one other kid in my class). So I've got a lot of good memories of it. Besides, even in '99, I don't really think that's quite when horror went to shit (I'd say when The Ring was released was when this fiasco occured).
So, I can't say that I'm not looking forward to this. The last time I remembered the coming of a new Scream film, I was in 2nd grade and didn't get to see it in theatres (though Iw atched it plenty of video).
The Tall Man
03-24-2010, 06:36 AM
Craven Tweeted (http://twitter.com/wescraven) confirmation.
Whoa, hold on... Craven tweets? Why does that image fill me with the giggles?
While I consider the original a classic love letter to slasher films, and have watched it a countless number of times, let's hope this is better than 2 and 3, which I maybe watched 2 or 3 times apiece, once to see them then again flipping around the channels and watching bits and pieces of them.
I actually despise the original "Scream". When I saw it, it felt like it was trying to be better than all the older slasher movies, when that's all it was itself. Least that's how it felt to me. "Scream 2" is actually my favorite of the three, chiefly because of Courtney Cox's bob hairstyle and sweet uptown rack. I didn't even like "Scream 3" in theaters and I've seen it maybe 3 times. The last time though didn't seem too bad, though I only caught the end.
T.M., Esq.
Sean [The Wildcard]
03-24-2010, 07:57 AM
http://i951.photobucket.com/albums/ad359/sean_ofthedead/cwsq0.jpg
Jason_Legend
03-24-2010, 07:59 AM
I prefer 2 and 3 over 1. I used to think 1 was better than 3. I've always liked 2 more than 1.
The first one feels the most special, but I find the sequels a little more fun. If that makes any sense.
Jason_Legend
04-04-2010, 08:50 AM
Kevin Williamson writing the script gives me some hope that this can do justice to the other three.
I know there's money involved, but I hope they're planning on doing something solid.
Voorheeszilla
04-05-2010, 06:19 PM
I do too. The first three were all really good, imo, and I want the fourth to be on par with them. I love the idea of the killer not being revealed into the end of the film, and the rest keeps you guessing on who it could be.
Jus-X
04-05-2010, 07:33 PM
I have a feeling that this movie will pass the torch on to a new cast, and that Sidney, Dewey, and Gale will be the first victims of Ghost Face...
The Dream Master
04-05-2010, 07:35 PM
I would guess that at least one of those will bite it early on, but I have a feeling at least two of them will make it through most of the movie. I don't think it's just going to be Scream with a cast of completely new characters, at least that's what I gather from what Williamson is saying.
Jus-X
04-05-2010, 07:37 PM
I still think Sidney should be the killer. I was hoping she would be the killer in 3 and we see that she's gone schizophrenic with phonecalls and what not... but nope, brother angle.
I still think Sidney should be the killer. I was hoping she would be the killer in 3 and we see that she's gone schizophrenic with phonecalls and what not... but nope, brother angle.
Finally, someone else who thinks that Sidney should be the killer. I think it'd be cool to finally see her snap.
Jus-X
04-06-2010, 05:36 PM
Finally, someone else who thinks that Sidney should be the killer. I think it'd be cool to finally see her snap.
Yeah I thought that the very first time I heard of Scream 3. Then when watching part 3, the scene where she hears her own voice over the phone, I thought "Yes! This is gonna be good... :X Stoopid voice changer! :mad:
Voorheeszilla
04-06-2010, 05:43 PM
It'd be nice if it did happen, but if it does, I hope it's not made too obvious.
Jus-X
04-06-2010, 07:18 PM
It'd be nice if it did happen, but if it does, I hope it's not made too obvious.
Yeah, I want to actually be surprised by the end of the film.
Voorheeszilla
04-06-2010, 08:34 PM
Agreed, do it in the vein of the first three where they keep a good amount of suspects as far as who the killer is. If it is Sidney, I hope it's done in the best way possible & isn't too cliche.
While I consider the original a classic love letter to slasher films, and have watched it a countless number of times, let's hope this is better than 2 and 3, which I maybe watched 2 or 3 times apiece, once to see them then again flipping around the channels and watching bits and pieces of them.
I agree with you on this one. The first Sream was a nice tribute to the horror/slasher genre. The sequels were not that good. I hope Scream 4 will be better then 2 and 3. Christ they had TEN years to right the script. I hope Williamson can come up with something good. :X
Voorheeszilla
04-08-2010, 03:45 AM
I think part two & three were especially good. Sure, I think the first is the best of the trilogy, but I don't think the sequels are really bad on any level.
Jus-X
04-08-2010, 05:33 AM
I enjoyed all three, favorites are 1 and 2.
The Gunslinger
04-09-2010, 06:12 AM
The second one is the best, in my opinion. Mostly due to Timothy Olyphant.
Jus-X
04-09-2010, 05:12 PM
Timothy Olyphant.
Great character in the movie... but he's aged alot from what I've seen him at recently.
Just Jeans
04-09-2010, 08:15 PM
Timmy O. is still the man. I hear that new show he's starring in is pretty good. Need to see it.
Sutter Cane
04-10-2010, 12:29 AM
Great character in the movie... but he's aged alot from what I've seen him at recently.
Really? He looks pretty much the same to me. Like he has some gray hair now, but that's it. If he shaves and dyes his hair, he looks pretty much the same.
Being Sheriff of Deadwood and having to try and deal with John McClane takes it's toll.
The Gunslinger
04-10-2010, 05:27 AM
Timmy O is still the man. I hear that new show he's starring in is pretty good. Need to see it.
The show is called Justified. It's pretty damn good.
The Dream Master
04-10-2010, 08:59 AM
Anyone who considers themselves a fan of Timmy O. should check out A Perfect Getaway. Pretty good little thriller.
The Gunslinger
04-10-2010, 10:32 AM
Anyone who considers themselves a fan of Timmy O. should check out A Perfect Getaway. Pretty good little thriller.
Been there, done that. Awesome film. The same can be said for fans of Steve Zahn.
The Dream Master
04-26-2010, 06:07 PM
Williamson talks a little bit about part 4 and beyond: (http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/16990/williamson-talks-scream-4-beyond)
"Scream" scribe Kevin Williamson has adamantly dismissed rumors that actor Jamie Kennedy would reprise his role of Randy in the upcoming fourth film.
Williamson, who also serves as producer on "Vampire Diaries", tells Fear Net that "We're not that movie. We're not that universe where you can bring people back from the dead. That would be just a cheat. It's such a disservice. Everyone's like, "When's Randy coming back?" I'm like, "You know what? I would love nothing more than to have Jamie Kennedy in the film. However to have Randy in the film, it sort of just takes it... I mean Scream 2 was a lie, you know? It's a false move. So I just won't do it. I can't do that. I just won't do it."
Williamson also confirmed that this upcoming film is indeed the first in a potential trilogy: "There's three. I am contracted for 4, 5 and 6, but the deal for 6 is not done. I mean I pitched three films. The story is about returning to Woodsboro".
So what would the next ones be about? "5 will be a continuation of 4, but 4 is its own movie. It has a beginning, a middle and its own ending, which will be satisfying hopefully. It has a beginning, middle and end and 5 has a beginning, middle and end; it's just a continuation of the lives of all the people that live in 4. I can't start giving 5 away - that gives up too much of 4" says Williamson.
"Scream 4" is scheduled to begin production this Summer for release April 15th next year.
Jus-X
04-26-2010, 07:32 PM
I would love nothing more than to have Jamie Kennedy in the film.
I wouldn't see the problem of putting the actor in the movie as a different character and have everyone trip out at his resemblence to Randy... but I guess that would also mean the new character would have to be completely different from Randy's character if they go that route. So maybe it is better to not have him there.
"There's three. I am contracted for 4, 5 and 6
Friggin awesome :bow:
5 will be a continuation of 4, but 4 is its own movie.
So maybe my suspicions are right when I said the survivors from 1-3 are there to be killed off, and new characters are introduced for another trilogy. I'm starting to get pumped, and I still don't know shit about the new story, and haven't seen anything promotional either.
idolone
04-27-2010, 12:03 AM
It could be good. Who knows. I'm in.
Craven interview (http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/04/28/scream-4-poster-wes-craven/) and teaser poster at the link.
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: So how did Scream 4 come together?
WES CRAVEN: Bob Weinstein [the head of Dimension Films] felt that 10 years was enough of a wait. He felt it was time to give the original three films their due, so he called Kevin Williamson, who started coming up with ideas. For some years, Kevin had the notion of the general course of the next three movies. There was a point where Bob came to me and said, “We want to start showing you pages — do you want to do it?” And off we went.
Did you have any trepidation about revisiting the series so many years down the road?
No, I’m fascinated by what this movie is. I can’t think of another film that has not only a true trilogy, where you’re following a single central character over three pictures, but has the complexity to the story and other characters that also have continued along. And then 10 years later, to come back to those same characters and same actors, and continue that story in a way that’s totally organic. It’s kind of unprecedented.
Are Sidney (Campbell), Gale (Cox), and Dewey (Arquette) still going to be the central characters, or are they on the periphery this time?
It’s a total integration of those three and new kids. The story of Sid, Gale, and Dewey is very much a part of the movie.
And Sid’s still having problems with Ghostface?
There have been 10 years of no Ghostface, but there has been the movie-within-a-movie Stab. We have fun with the idea of endless sequels, or “sequelitis” as Kevin calls it in the script. Sid goes through these three horrendous things, and Stab was based on those horrible things. And then they’ve been taken by a studio and run into the ground in a series of sequels. She has been off by herself and living her own life, and she’s even written a book that has gotten a lot of critical acclaim. She’s kind of put her life back together in the course of these 10 years. But, certainly, there would be no Scream without Ghostface, so she has to confront him again, but now as a woman who has really come out the darkness of her past.
Can you tease what’s happening with Dewey and Gale by this point?
I don’t think Bob Weinstein would be very happy if I disclosed anything. We have been playing CIA with trying to keep everything secret, and we haven’t put any pages out from the current version of the script, except for things we’ve already discarded. Our first experience with casting this time around, the sides [portions of the script used for auditions] that we used were put on the Internet the same afternoon. It was bad back when we made the other movies, too. On Scream 2, we had the first 40 pages of the script show up on the Internet the night they arrived from Kevin, and we had to do backflips to rewrite the opening.
Speaking of openings, are you at least going to continue with having a couple killed at the beginning of the film?
That’s a strong possibility. [Laughs] Certainly, you will recognize what Bob calls the DNA of the film: a very complex murder mystery, a shocking action picture, wonderful humor based on character, and lots of surprises, as well as a movie that kind of copies itself. It’s a pretty amazing script.
What is your opinion of where the horror genre has gone these past 10 years?
It feels like the end of an era of a certain type of film. There are series of films, a lot of sequels, and a lot of remakes, and part of the humor of Scream 4 is when characters comment on that. “Enough of Saw 25 and all!” [Laughs] A lot of films, directors, and studios are the butts of some of the jokes. In order to figure out what’s happening around them, the characters have to figure out where the genre of horror is. So this is a look at horror after 10 years of a lot of sequels rather than original films coming up year after year. One film is successful, and then they make 25 of them. I think it’s time for something new. I’ve done remakes of my own films, too, with The Last House on the Left and The Hills Have Eyes, but we feel it’s time for something new and different, and that’s what this film is going to be.
But then is it ironic that this is the fourth film in a series?
Yeah, but I’ve never felt like these are sequels. This is a film about the progress of, at this point, three core characters, and how all of these events have changed their lives, and how the events in their lives have been reflected in the movies around them, which they might like or might really not like at all. I think that makes it really different.
As for the poster’s tagline, “New decade, new rules,” are the new rules going to specifically comment on what’s happened these last 10 years with horror movies?
It’s very much about the last 10 years, and where we are right now. “New decade, new rules” is very much the keynote of the film, that is, trying to figure out what sort of rules (the new Ghostface) is following. How do we fight this killer without a road map? We have to figure out where we are.
Are you returning to Santa Rosa, Calif., to shoot?
We’re actually going to Michigan. We found a wonderful small town that looks very much like the town we had in Northern California. Frankly, the tax breaks in Michigan are enormous, so we’ll be able to put a lot more movie on the screen.
But this Michigan town is still supposed to represent (the series’ fictional town of) Woodsboro?
Yeah. I guess I just gave something away. [Laughs]
Can we count on Scream 4 remaining an R-rated movie with blood and guts and all that fun stuff?
I think that’s safe to say. I’ve very excited about it. At this point in my career, Scream is one of the longest running stories I’ve told. It’s fascinating to still have actors who are very much into continuing their roles and have great chemistry. Part of the reason these three characters are still alive is because they’re so great. We haven’t wanted to kill them.
And, should Scream 4 become a hit, you are signed on for Scream 5 and 6, right?
Yeah, I’m signed on for the duration.
Jus-X
04-29-2010, 02:12 AM
It’s very much about the last 10 years, and where we are right now. “New decade, new rules” is very much the keynote of the film, that is, trying to figure out what sort of rules (the new Ghostface) is following. How do we fight this killer without a road map? We have to figure out where we are.
maybe this means they're implimenting reboots/remakes into the "rules?"
The Tall Man
04-29-2010, 03:51 AM
I can’t think of another film that has not only a true trilogy, where you’re following a single central character over three pictures, but has the complexity to the story and other characters that also have continued along.
Apparently Wes Craven has not seen the Godfather Trilogy...
T.M., Esq.
The Scream films beyond the first are sequels Wes, that's why they have numbers after them.....fucking moron.
Darth Sinister
04-30-2010, 11:25 PM
No, what he means is that most horror sequels retread what was done before. The first trilogy did things differently, while retaining some familiar gags from the previous films.
Nope, they were sequels just like any other slasher franchise.
Darth Sinister
05-01-2010, 11:15 PM
He said that they didn't feel like sequels. He didn't say that they weren't sequels.
Penhall
05-01-2010, 11:39 PM
I really hope Scream 4 comments on all the remake crap coming out of Hollywood too.
And I'm actually shocked that we're getting sequels to Scream, as opposed to a remake/reboot. Anyway, can't wait for this!
idolone
05-04-2010, 04:19 PM
I bet they are going to do a remake of Stab (probably a PG-13 flick) which sets off the new killings. I'm kind of curious about what the new rules will be too. What do you guys think?
The Dream Master
05-21-2010, 03:34 PM
Possible casting news: (http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/37653/just-possible-casting-news-scream-4)
Wondering who's gonna end up possible meat for the beast known as Ghostface when Scream 4 hits theatres April 15th of next year? Time for a little casting news to get you in the spirit of things!
According to The Hollywood Reporter's Heat Vision Blog "Lake Bell is in negotiations to join the franchise, and offers are out to “Twilight” actress Ashley Greene, “Heroes” star Hayden Panettiere and Rory Culkin (“Twelve”) for key starring roles."
“Scream 4” reunites Wes Craven with Kevin Williamson, who kicked off a horror movie revival with his “Scream” script in 1996. The story brings back original cast members Neve Campbell, David Arquette and Courteney Cox, though the new flick is seen as a passing of the baton to a new generation of slasher victims, with Williamson already under contract to write a fifth installment.
If deals are concluded, Greene would play Campbell’s cousin Jill, essentially the heroine of the movie, and Panettiere would play her best friend, a nerdy film geek. Culkin would play a potential love interest for Jill. Bell is negotiating to play a police officer who knew Sidney (Campbell) from high school.
Casting is proceeding slowly because Craven and Dimension are not sending the script to agencies in order to protect its secrecy. With only character descriptions, actors are having a difficult time deciding whether certain roles are for them.
Filming is scheduled to commence this July in Michigan.
Jus-X
05-21-2010, 03:40 PM
Edit: DM beat me to it!
The Dream Master
05-21-2010, 03:42 PM
Echo, echo, echoooooo...
;)
Edit:
You've gotta be fast on the trigger. Go with God, Gringo.
Apocalypto
05-21-2010, 04:07 PM
My eyes lit up like Christmas lights and my heart skipped about ten beats when my friend told me Ashley Greene was in talks for a major role in a Scream film.:)
Sean [The Wildcard]
05-22-2010, 12:05 AM
Even though she's been in Twilight-crap...I think it'd be interested to see Ashley Greene cast. Same goes for Hayden Panettiere.
Just Jeans
05-22-2010, 12:09 AM
Lake Bell is rad. Loved her in the short-lived Surface. I hope she lands the role.
Penhall
05-22-2010, 08:14 AM
God I'm praying this is gonna have a scene with a Rob Zombie-type guy remaking "Stab" as really "harsh and extreme"...
The Dream Master
05-27-2010, 09:06 PM
Looks like Emma Roberts has joined the cast: (http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2010/05/27/scream-4-emma-roberts/)
With filming set to begin at the end of June, Weinstein’s Dimension Films is furiously putting its Scream 4 cast together. Young upstart Emma Roberts is set to join the ensemble team of Courteney Cox, David Arquette, and Neve Campbell. And while the script from Kevin Williamson is being kept under wraps, sources tell EW.com that Roberts is expected to play Jill, one of the film’s primary heroines. Scream 4 returns to Woodsboro, the home of Sidney Prescott (Campbell). And Roberts will play a role similar to Campbell’s star-turning one in the original.
“I’m so excited to be part of this ground-breaking franchise,” says Roberts, who’s best known for playing Nancy Drew and last year’s Hotel for Dogs. “It’s the perfect opportunity for me to do something completely different than I’ve ever done before.” Producer Wes Craven adds, “Emma’s talent, beauty, and range will add immensely to the sophistication, intensity, and fun of the Scream franchise as it returns to the screen once more.”
The three Scream movies has generated close to $300 million domestically. This latest iteration will shoot in and around Ann Arbor, Michigan beginning June 28.
Draven
05-27-2010, 09:35 PM
Guess that means Ashley Greene is out. Which sucks, because I love Ashley.
Jus-X
05-28-2010, 04:45 AM
Emma Roberts lands starring role? (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/20385)
Entertainment Weekly is reporting that young upstart Emma Roberts is set to join the ensemble team of Courteney Cox, David Arquette, and Neve Campbell in Wes Craven's Scre4m, the first pic in a new trilogy for Dimension Films. And while the script from Kevin Williamson is being kept under wraps, sources tell EW that Roberts is expected to play Jill, one of the film's primary heroines. Scream 4 returns to Woodsboro, the home of Sidney Prescott (Campbell). And Roberts will play a role similar to Campbell's star-turning one in the original. Lake Bell, Ashley Greene, Hayden Panettiere, and Rory Culkin are still in talks. The three Scream movies has generated close to $300 million domestically. This latest iteration will shoot in and around Ann Arbor, Michigan beginning June 28 and arrive in theaters April 15, 2011.
i am SAW
05-28-2010, 02:37 PM
Hayden Panettiere & Rory Culkin
http://www.fangoria.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=992:heroes-girl-is-scream-4-heroine&catid=1:latest-news&Itemid=167
Variety reports that Hayden Panettiere has officially joined the ensemble of SCREAM 4, which begins rolling next month in Michigan. Panettiere is, of course, best known for her role as cheerleader Claire Bennet on NBC’s HEROES, who was virtually unkillable; we’ll see how she fares against Ghostface in Craven’s film. Rory Culkin is also one of the newcomers joining franchise veterans Neve Campbell, David Arquette and Courteney Cox in SCREAM 4, which was scripted by fellow returnee Kevin Williamson and is set for release April 15.
MysterioMan007
05-28-2010, 04:56 PM
http://www.gossipcenter.com/ashley-greene/ashley-greene-and-emma-roberts-scream-4-co-stars-368903
Ashley Greene and Emma Roberts: "Scream 4" Co-Stars
Posted May 28th, 2010
Looking to get a good scare, young Hollywood starlets Emma Roberts and Ashley Greene have agreed to star in the upcoming “Scream 4.”
The “Hotel for Dogs” cute and the “New Moon” babe will take part in the new chapter of the revamped horror series directed by Wes Craven.
Of the gig, Emma told press, “I’m so excited to be part of this groundbreaking franchise. It’s the perfect opportunity for me to do something completely different than I’ve ever done before.”
Joining Roberts and Greene are Rory Culkin and Hayden Panettiere along with original cast members Neve Campbell, Courteney Cox, and David Arquette.
Looks like Ashley Greene is in as well...
Bill 1981
05-28-2010, 04:59 PM
Well, at least they're hiring people with real talent for this movie.
Jus-X
05-28-2010, 05:32 PM
I vote for Rory as the killer.
ChildrenoftheDamned
05-28-2010, 06:37 PM
Regardless of reading the news on Scream 4's development, I still told myself that this Scream 4 business was all bullshit but that notion got shot to hell this week. I saw a teaser one sheet at the theater Monday. Oh, shit...
Apocalypto
05-28-2010, 07:00 PM
If Emma Roberts ends up playing Jill instead of Ashley Greene, my anticipation for this movie just went way down...I was really looking forward to her being in the lead, and she actually bears a resemblance to Campbell. She'd be perfect to play her cousin.
Jason_Legend
05-28-2010, 08:26 PM
I wonder if this will still be R? I heard it supposed to be, but you never know. If Die Hard can be turned into PG-13, anything can.
The Dream Master
05-28-2010, 08:28 PM
Craven said that "it's safe to say" it will be Rated R. I'm sure it will be.
ChildrenoftheDamned
05-29-2010, 05:33 AM
On IMDb in the FAQ's (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1262416/faq#.2.1.3) it says it'll be R. Their source is here (http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/04/28/scream-4-poster-wes-craven/). I'm sure it will be.
Penhall
05-30-2010, 07:26 PM
It's interesting, because I used to post on the old Friday forum when the original Scream movies were first released. A lot of people that posted on there hated the Scream movies and felt they weren't "real" horror and were bad for the genre.
And now 10 years after Scream 3 was released, I'm checking the boards and horror sites and most fans seem to be very excited over Scream 4.
I personally am jizzing my shorts over Scream 4 , so I'm glad many horror fans are excited about it too. But its interesting how well the Scream franchise seems to have aged, even with all the spoofs and pop-culture stuff, people still like them and are excited about the new movies.
I remember many discussions on the old board where people stated with certainty that the Scream trilogy would be forgotten and dismissed in 10 years. I think its safe to say that those people were wrong and I was right. :p
I personally am jizzing my shorts over Scream 4
Man, am I glad that I got a vasectomy....whoops...not really..just a girlfriend;)
The Dream Master
05-31-2010, 06:05 AM
Penhall, you make a really good point. I could never figure out the backlash against Scream, really. To me, it seemed like the reaction was similar to any fanbase when something they enjoy gets popular: revolt against it because it's no longer just their little cult thing anymore. Not saying that everyone that dislikes Scream dislikes it for that reason, but man, that's one movie that horror fans turned on big time at one point. The fact that everyone seems to be pretty excited by part 4 seems to indicate that people have finally come around and accepted it despite its popularity. That's fandom for you though--you can never figure out where it's gonna go.
The first movie was good. The sequels had good things about them, but weren't as good as the first one.
The main thing I have over Scream is the effect it had on the genre. I don't really like seeing popular actors in horror films. It kills the feel of the movie. I think horror, especially slasher movies, are best as cult films with no name actors in them. After Scream came out they kept making crap like I Know What You Did with all these teenage idol stars in them, and I hated it. That is why I appreciate what Platinum Dunes is doing so much. They are bringing back the characters I like but without all the teen booper idols. Also, they are dark and gritty. They feel right.
The Dream Master
05-31-2010, 08:41 PM
Dude, I think you really need to take a look at the casts Platinum Dunes has thrown together:
Jessica Biel (TV/movie star)
Ryan Reynolds (pretty big name, even in 2005)
Jared Paladecki (on a popular tv series)
Thomas Dekker (on a relatively popular tv series)
Kyle Gallner (shown up in a good amount of stuff recently)
Katie Cassidy (on a popular tv series)
Sean Bean (he's Sean Fucking Bean)
The list goes on really. I think the Dunes figured out what everyone should have figured out a long time ago: if you hire real actors, the movie will likely be better. And it's not like horror movies have always been full of no names. Yeah, the little slasher movies might have been, but that's only because they couldn't afford anyone bigger. ;)
Jason_Legend
06-02-2010, 05:21 AM
I remember there were a few years, where I was kind of tired of these movies. I still liked them, but was getting kind of tired of them. A year and a half or so ago, the thrill came back. I'm so looking forward to this. I'm not expecting a masterpiece, but I trust Wes and Kevin to do the series justice.
Jus-X
06-02-2010, 02:57 PM
I can't remember if I read it here or somewhere else... but it had something to do with Scre4m having a strong emphasis on remakes/reboots. I just looked through a couple previous posts and didn't see anything official... but I thought I read it as official news.
Scarecrow
06-02-2010, 07:53 PM
Penhall, you make a really good point. I could never figure out the backlash against Scream, really. To me, it seemed like the reaction was similar to any fanbase when something they enjoy gets popular: revolt against it because it's no longer just their little cult thing anymore. Not saying that everyone that dislikes Scream dislikes it for that reason, but man, that's one movie that horror fans turned on big time at one point. The fact that everyone seems to be pretty excited by part 4 seems to indicate that people have finally come around and accepted it despite its popularity. That's fandom for you though--you can never figure out where it's gonna go.
Might be shocking to realise, but the exact thing is happen ing now with "gornography" films, Saw and its ilk. And it happened also in the 80's with the slasher trend, believe it or not... a generation above us think horror died after the seventies.
Just wait, the nw decade, the new horror style, it'll get slammed.
myself, always loved it all and excited by this.
- Scarecrow
Apocalypto
06-02-2010, 08:09 PM
The thing of it is, many of these films are intended primarily for teenagers...for years people that loved ANOES/Halloween/F13/TCM etc... were bitching about how stuff like Scream and I Know What You Did Last Summer were "stupid teen slashers ruining the genre," when the simple truth was that they were no more "teen slashers" than most of the other films I just mentioned, they were just teen slashers of a different era.
The people that, in many cases, had now outgrown them or were just clinging to their own personal nostalgic pieces developed an intense hatred for what fans of the next era were liking and panned it into oblivion. If I had a dime for every time I heard someone bitch about the alleged "death of the genre" just because it wasn't the type of horror that they'd grown accustomed to when they were younger, I'd have made more money than all three Scream films combined.
Anyways, I WAS really psyched for this, especially upon hearing that my favorite up and coming actress was offered the lead...her turning it down has pretty much trampled all over my enthusiasm now and I'll have a pretty tough time and enjoying it, and I'm likely to be disappointed no matter how this turns out now.
On a strictly technical level, it should atleast be better than Scream 3 with Williamson back.
Violent VictiM
06-03-2010, 12:30 AM
I vote for Rory as the killer.
This, fo' sho.
Apocalypto
06-03-2010, 02:58 AM
That's another problem I have with the casting in addition to Ashley dropping out, it's early yet, but so far, there isn't a single person in the cast that I can see being even remotely intimidating as the killer. There's no freakin' way in hell I'll ever be scared of Hayden Panettiere...and from the recent pics I've seen of Rory, he's one of the least intimidating guys I've seen in a while.
Nobody in this movie as of now stands a snowballs chance in hell of being anywhere near as awesome in the psycho role as Skeet Ulrich or Timothy Olyphant were.
I also think Emma Roberts is just too scrawny, Neve wasn't really big, but it wasn't totally unbelievable watching her being able to defend herself...this girl looks about 90 lbs. soaking wet, watching ghostface get smacked around by her would be unintentionally comical.
Just Jeans
06-03-2010, 04:02 PM
...and from the recent pics I've seen of Rory, he's one of the least intimidating guys I've seen in a while.
Stu and Billy were hardly the most intimidating kids on the street. Physically speaking, neither screamed "killer!" at first glance.
It's about the performance, not the look (which can be greatly affected by a good performance).
Jus-X
06-03-2010, 05:16 PM
It's about the performance, not the look (which can be greatly affected by a good performance).
And they did give a great performance at the end showing how pyscho they really were.
Apocalypto
06-03-2010, 05:51 PM
Stu and Billy were hardly the most intimidating kids on the street. Physically speaking, neither screamed "killer!" at first glance.
It's about the performance, not the look (which can be greatly affected by a good performance).
I didn't mistake them for girls...which with Rory I actually did the first time I saw him on a fan teaser poster...and I think Ulrich, Olyphant, or Lillard could stuff him in a trash can with little problem if they wanted to.
I'm less than optimistic about this film right now, the only thing it has in its favor is Williamson back as the writer.
It's nice that the original cast is back, but from the descriptions so far it seems like they're taking a backseat to the newbies in this film anyway, and I don't like any of the younger casting choices yet.
I'm actually kind of hoping they're bsing us about Jill being the lead and she dies in fifteen minutes so the film can center around Sidney again at this point.
The Dream Master
06-13-2010, 08:26 PM
Casting news: (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=67007)
Actor Nico Tortorella revealed, via Twitter, the following news regarding Wes Craven's latest film:
"Huge news today!!!! Just officially got cast in Scream 4!!!! Today is always the best day of my life."
Tortorella previously starred in "The Beautiful Life: TBL" and "Make It or Break It." He'll join Neve Campbell, Courteney Cox, David Arquette, Emma Roberts, Hayden Panettiere and Rory Culkin.
The fourth installment begins shooting later this month in Michigan.
MysterioMan007
06-15-2010, 02:17 AM
I'm glad that things are going forward and they're casting....but I have no frickin' idea who Nico Tortorella is... :shifty:
i am SAW
06-17-2010, 08:23 PM
http://www.fangoria.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1199:lauren-graham-announces-role-in-scream-4-with-video&catid=1:latest-news&Itemid=167
Yesterday it was rumored that GILMORE GIRLS and BAD SANTA actress, Lauren Graham would be joining the cast of SCREAM 4, and now it's been confirmed.
The Dream Master
06-18-2010, 12:33 AM
I expect plenty of "OMG WHY WB ACTORS!!!11!" reactions now for sure.
i am SAW
06-19-2010, 03:29 AM
EW is reporting that Marielle Jaffe and Anthony Anderson have signed on to the fourth film in the series
http://www.fangoria.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1211:scream-4-cast-grows-by-two&catid=1:latest-news&Itemid=167
so far there's not one single actor i'm looking forward to seeing, that includes returning cast members.
ADDED:
My eyes lit up like Christmas lights and my heart skipped about ten beats when my friend told me Ashley Greene was in talks for a major role in a Scream film.:)
If Emma Roberts ends up playing Jill instead of Ashley Greene, my anticipation for this movie just went way down...I was really looking forward to her being in the lead, and she actually bears a resemblance to Campbell. She'd be perfect to play her cousin.
i just seen this on tv and thought of you. :shy:
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Apocalypto
06-19-2010, 04:08 PM
As though the immense bitterness I already have over the film due to the Jill casting weren't enough, I find out Anthony freakin' Anderson is in the cast. If he's half as irritating as he was during his stint in Transformers, he'll probably be the single most annoying 'comic relief' character ever in a horror film.
Good God, am I ever going to hate this film...
If it weren't for the nostalgic adrenaline rush of seeing ghostface back onscreen, I wouldn't even bother seeing it.
"that includes returning cast members."
I don't like Cox, it's nice to see the original trio returning though...that said they're passing the torch to a bunch of people I have zero interest in.
Culkin is cool (atleast he was a solid actor as a kid, haven't seen him since), but like I said before, he just lacks the physical presence to be an imposing killer. So far, I think almost the entire cast does.
At this point I hope Sid just flips out and kills everyone (which figuratively speaking, is pretty close to what the casting, both who did and didn't make it into the film, has given me the urge to do).
I'm definitely going into this expecting something worse than Scream 3, which I don't like. I figured it'd be better than that with Kevin back as the writer, but the casting is just truly horrible. Everything I hear makes me want to see the movie less.
This isn't a film I'm terribly exited about. I just hope it does good so that we can finally get Halloween 3D on the way. I am a huge Michael Myers fan. Ghostface, I always thought was a wuss. Though I liked the first Scream.
The Dream Master
06-19-2010, 07:13 PM
Anthony Anderson is the real deal, so I'm glad to see him cast. The fact that he was annoying in Transformers is because...well, he was in Transformers. The whole movie is annoying. He's a solid choice, and I look forward to seeing him in this. Pretty funny that he will have been in both Scary Movie and Scream though.
Apocalypto
06-19-2010, 08:12 PM
I think it's rather obvious, based ont he 'comic relief' token black guys in previous Scream films, they're going for a very simialar part for Anderson to what he had in Transformers...popping out as many dumbass jokes as possible.
He's a far more irritating comif relief actor than the one from Scream 2 and Deon Richmond were. I think he'll be about as good for Scream as Busta Rhymes was for Halloween.
The Dream Master
06-19-2010, 08:54 PM
Well, it's nice to see you've made up your mind about a movie that hasn't even started filming yet. :shyface:
Anderson could be playing anything at this point; it's not like he hasn't done serious work in his career. I wouldn't be surprised to see him playing a cop.
Apocalypto
06-19-2010, 10:27 PM
Well, it's nice to see you've made up your mind about a movie that hasn't even started filming yet. :shyface:
Pretty much, yeah.;)
They may prove me wrong, but I think his casting just screams "we need a comic relief token black guy to be in this movie."
Darth Sinister
06-19-2010, 10:39 PM
Well, it's nice to see you've made up your mind about a movie that hasn't even started filming yet. :shyface:
Anderson could be playing anything at this point; it's not like he hasn't done serious work in his career. I wouldn't be surprised to see him playing a cop.
Hell, watch him from the last couple seasons of "Law & Order". He can be serious. We just don't know what his role is in this film.
i am SAW
06-20-2010, 12:57 AM
I think it's rather obvious, based on the 'comic relief' token black guys in previous Scream films, they're going for a very simialar part for Anderson to what he had in Transformers...popping out as many dumbass jokes as possible. same thing i thought.
He's a far more irritating comif relief actor than the one from Scream 2
are you talking about Duane Martin or Omar Epps? either way, i liked both of them in Scream 2, thought were were some of the better characters. they're both better actors than Anderson.
and Deon Richmond
that one i agree with. they got The Token Black Guy from Not Another Teen Movie to play the token black guy in Scream 3.
Jus-X
06-20-2010, 07:52 AM
Hell, watch him from the last couple seasons of "Law & Order". He can be serious. We just don't know what his role is in this film.
Word. He's been doing very well in L and O.
Apocalypto
06-20-2010, 05:14 PM
I was referring to Duayne Martin, HELLOWEENY.
i am SAW
06-25-2010, 08:26 PM
say goodbye to Lake Bell
http://www.fangoria.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1249:qscream-4q-loses-lake-bell&catid=1:latest-news&Itemid=167
Lake Bell, announced via Twitter that she's unable to do the film saying, "Sucks: Scheduling conflicts with my current gig means I cant do #Scream4! (Hey horror bloggers, I know who the killer is...) #i'llnevertell"
Just Jeans
06-25-2010, 09:42 PM
To be frank: that fucking blows. :(
Jus-X
06-25-2010, 10:42 PM
Lake Bell
blows
Just thought it'd be nice to think about.
i am SAW
06-27-2010, 01:19 AM
http://blog.zap2it.com/thedishrag/2010/06/scream-4-filming-nancy-odell-tweets-from-set.html
Violent VictiM
06-27-2010, 01:23 AM
That hair is short! I literally didn't recognize her.
i am SAW
06-27-2010, 01:28 AM
why does it say what it says after Lauren Grahm's name? it that suppose to be funny, or did whoever wrote it really think that to be true?
MiMania
06-27-2010, 11:03 PM
why does it say what it says after Lauren Grahm's name? it that suppose to be funny, or did whoever wrote it really think that to be true?
it's just a joke. when Lauren confirmed she had a role in the movie on The Tonight Show a week or so ago, she said she didn't know much about her role, but joked that she was "probably the killer".
Jus-X
06-28-2010, 05:25 AM
Lauren Grahm is my cousin. So I Katie Holmes. Not THE Lauren Grahm and Katie Holmes, but I got cousins with those names.
kramerfan
06-28-2010, 09:47 AM
Dont think Neve Campbell has short hair.Its in a ponytail as ive see her recently and it as longer.
i am SAW
06-30-2010, 07:49 PM
NEW MASKS ???????
http://www.fangoria.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1291:new-masks-in-qscream-4q&catid=1:latest-news&Itemid=167
Just Jeans
06-30-2010, 08:17 PM
I really like the burlap variation of the Ghostface mask. I hope they sell those commercially.
The Dream Master
07-01-2010, 08:36 AM
Both of those variations have been for sale for a while now, actually.
ADDED:
Casting news: (http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/38311/new-blood-cast-scream-4-adam-brody-marley-shelton-and-erik-knudsen-make-cut)
Some more casting news has just come in for Wes Craven’s Scream 4 hot on the heels of the exit of Lake Bell and Lauren Graham. Looks like old Ghostface is going to have some completely new victims to sink his blade into.
According to The Hollywood Reporter Adam Brody, Marley Shelton and Erik Knudsen (pictured below) will be joining previous survivors Neve Campbell, David Arquette and Courteney Cox, as well as fresh meat Emma Roberts, Hayden Panettiere, Rory Culkin and Nico Tortorella in Wes Craven's return to the stab-happy franchise.
Brody will play a cop recently graduated from college who was raised on the “CSI” TV series, Shelton (replacing Lake Bell) will play a deputy who knew Campbell’s character in high school, and Knudsen will have a role similar to the one played by Jamie Kennedy in the first two installments.
Look for the film in theatres on April 15th, 2011.
And Lauren Graham is out: (http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/38303/lauren-graham-bows-out-scream-4)
With Scream 4 updates quickly rolling in these days, we've got another bit for you - this time about casting, or rather a change in casting.
Ghouls on Film have learned that Lauren Graham will not be taking part in the fourth entry in the slasher franchise.
No word yet on who might be stepping into the role of Kate Kessler (Emma Roberts' character's mom) or even if she's still in the script, but we'll keep you in the loop as soon as we learn more.
The Dream Master
07-02-2010, 08:47 PM
Oh shit, looks like the Weinsteins are already causing havoc (http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/38334/scream-4-woes-new-writer-angry-stars):
Ah yes, the movie biz! So full of drama both on and off of the screen. The following at press time is nothing more than rumors; however, given the recent switch in actors, there might be a glimmer of truth to be had ...
Zap2It reports that all is not well on the set of Scream 4, which is now lensing in Michigan ...
"Lauren Graham's role was so reduced that she dropped out of the project, and now it appears that Hayden Panetierre's part has changed as well... and who's at fault may surprise you.
Zap2it has learned that the slasher flick's script is now in the hands of Ehren Kruger, not the creator of the franchise, Kevin Williamson.
In fact, word is that Williamson's involvement with the project has come to an end entirely -- meaning "Scream 5" is a no-go at this time.
Kruger's writing resume includes "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" and "The Ring," and more significantly, "Scream 3." While the first two "Scream" movies, penned by Williamson, were adored by fans and critics alike, "Scream 3" was... well, not.
Hayden Panettiere's role, which one source says "used to be really sharp" has now been "dumbed down significantly." The actress is "beyond frustrated with the changes." Another source says that Lake Bell, who had to drop out of "Scream 4" due to scheduling changes, "dodged a bullet."
To make up for the actors that have dropped out of the production, Alison Brie, Marley Shelton, Erik Knudson, and Adam Brody have all signed on recently."
Hit up the above link for more. Again ... rumors for now but we'll see how this all pans out soon I'm sure.
Look for Scream 4 in theatres on April 15th, 2011.
Apocalypto
07-02-2010, 10:46 PM
Yup, epic trainwreck our way comes.
The Tall Man
07-03-2010, 01:00 AM
The writer of Scream 3 with the director of Scream 3? Really, guys? Really?
Will it be possible for this to suck as much as Scream 3? We'll have to see, I guess.
T.M., Esq.
Violent VictiM
07-03-2010, 01:08 AM
Good news, everyone! Wait, actually... no. Bad news.
Apocalypto
07-03-2010, 01:51 AM
I'd say it's gone well beyond possible and become highly probable that this is going to be worse than Scream 3.
The Dream Master
07-03-2010, 02:00 AM
Well, I'm curious to know about the extent of the rewrites. This update (http://shocktilyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=15715) claims it's just gonna be a polish of Williamson's script, who is off to work on Vampire Diaries. The earlier reports made it sound like Williamson had been ousted and the future sequels were in question. Of course, it's all hearsay, but I'd certainly be okay with the script being polished, not completely hacked up and re-done. My enthusiasm is tempered, but I'll wait and see what happens before getting too down about things.
Penhall
07-03-2010, 04:42 AM
Oh man, all of this news is very bad news, if it is indeed true. I was holding out hope that maybe this was just a bunch of BS until I went to Wes Craven's Twitter account. This is what he posted:
I have not been given control of the script.
Cryptic, but very telling. This is probably gonna turn out to be another "Cursed".
I fucking hate the Weisnteins and if I were Wes I'd never do another movie for them again. If its true that Williamson is off the picture and his script is being re-written, then there's no point in even making the movie.
I'm so pissed off right now and just...sad. I was looking forward to this movie so much and now I wish it would just stop production.
Scarecrow
07-03-2010, 09:03 AM
Seriously, though, do the Weinsteins NEVER learn? I mean REALLY? Have they not noticed that every siongle projject they've meddled with has either died before it's born or ended up a total mess and a flop? I mean,s eriously, have they not twigged yet?
- Scarecrow
i am SAW
07-07-2010, 03:37 PM
http://www.fangoria.com/images/stories/JULY10/sidney-prescott-book-poster.jpg
Darth Sinister
07-21-2010, 12:08 AM
Hayden Paniterre denies rumors of conflict on set of "Scream 4". (http://movies.msn.com/movies/article.aspx?news=511590&affid=100055)
Watched Scream 3 last night.
If this turns out better then that I'll be happy, but I'm losing interest in this quick.
Jason_Legend
07-22-2010, 01:59 AM
I'm trying to avoid most stuff from this movie. On IMDB, a few people got ahold of a lot of character sides. I read a few early on, but I stopped myself finally. I still come across borderline spoiler stuff on there, from time to time, but I'm trying to avoid it.
I remember I completely spoiled the Friday remake for myself, by reading the test screening reviews.
BlakeTyner
07-22-2010, 02:38 AM
You know, even though they amped up the goofiness in part 3, I found it more enjoyable than part 2 (that's the one with Sydney in college and the weird play thing, right?) Part 2 just seemed more...pompous or something.
Although I did like that fat kid from "Stand by Me."
Sean [The Wildcard]
07-25-2010, 09:24 PM
Earlier today Wes Craven updated his Twitter page with this pic from his upcoming movie Scream 4 during the "Stab - A - Thon" party which is featured in the movie. Craven is next to a very large and over the top prop, which resembles Casey (Drew Barrymore) from the first Scream movie. Craven writes "Actors frequently spill their guts to me." Good to see Wes having a laugh on the set.
http://www.horror-movies.ca/AdvHTML_Upload/casey-scream.jpg
The Dream Master
08-12-2010, 08:20 PM
http://www.dreadcentral.com/img/news/aug10/s4hayden.jpg
Dread Central (http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/39069/new-scream-4-image-hayden-panettiere-gets-the-call?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+DreadCentral+%28Dread+Central +News%29&utm_content=Twitter) has a link to more.
Jason_Legend
08-18-2010, 03:12 PM
I wonder if the main three are going to be killed off in this one. All three would feel kind of cheap, but at least one. Kevin Williamson said in an interview, that 5 and 6 are all about the new cast. If the main three survive, I can't imagine why they wouldn't still hang around the new characters, if more murders pop up.
Jus-X
08-18-2010, 04:17 PM
I wonder if the main three are going to be killed off in this one. All three would feel kind of cheap, but at least one. Kevin Williamson said in an interview, that 5 and 6 are all about the new cast. If the main three survive, I can't imagine why they wouldn't still hang around the new characters, if more murders pop up.
With the exception of Laurie Strode/ Kerri Tate, most reoccurring characters don't make it past the third chapter. I'm sure they'll get killed, but probably towards the end of this movie, or maybe the beginning of the fifth like Cotton Weary did in Scream 3. Williamson said parts 5 and 6 would focus on a new cast, but never said someone(s) from the original cast wouldn't make a cameo or something.
One thing I'm confident in saying, I'm sure Sidney will die in Scream 4.
Anna Paquin and Kristen Bell will have cameos (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/entertainment/post/2010/08/anna-paquin-and-kristen-bell-to-appear-in-scream-4/1). Speculation is that they won't live to see the title.
Watched Scream 3 last night.
Sorry, left my anti-nausea meds in the Hostel: Part III thread..
Jus-X
08-28-2010, 08:09 PM
Sorry, left my anti-nausea meds in the Hostel: Part III thread..
Oh those were yours... well you're gonna have to pump my stomach to get them back!:duh:
Jus-X
09-13-2010, 05:49 PM
Two new pics in this link (http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/39701/friday-night-lights-alum-aimee-teegarden-cast-scream-4-new-bloody-behind-scenes-imagery)
Can you believe the cast for Wes Craven's upcoming sequel Scream 4 is still growing? Please Mr. Craven, take all these folks and give us a slasher film that's home to one of the biggest body counts ever! Wishful thinking, no?
According to The Hollywood Reporter Aimee Teegarden is the newest addition to the Scream 4 ensemble. She will be joining the previously announced Neve Campbell, Courteney Cox, David Arquette, Britt Robertson, Emma Roberts, Hayden Panettiere, Rory Culkin, Nico Tortorella, Mary McDonnell, Anthony Anderson, and Marielle Jaffe with confirmed cameos by Anna Paquin, Kristen Bell, Shenae Grimes and Lucy Hale.
Speaking of high body counts ... dig on the new behind-the-scenes images from the man himself, Wes Craven on Twitter.
Look for Scream 4 in theatres on April 15th, 2011, and to stay on top of things, be sure to follow @wescraven on Twitter.
French Friday
09-13-2010, 06:58 PM
I hope, really hope the script will be more Williamson than Krueger, and the tone more 1 than 3. I love the Scooby-Doo angle of 3 but the goofyness was way too much in this one. Part 1 had the best mix of all elements.
I also fear a "cursed" effect on Scream 4 and I don't understand why the Weinsteins always do that kind of thing. Is there only one movie they made "rework" that was seen as better than the original ideas/concepts by the critics and audience ?
The Dream Master
09-13-2010, 07:49 PM
I think the theatrical cuts of both Zombie's Halloween movies (as mandated by the Weinsteins) were better than Ron's original, unaltered and seemingly cocaine-influenced "visions."
Voorheeszilla
09-16-2010, 07:38 AM
I don't think Scream 3 was a bad movie. I actually really enjoyed it, & am watching it now, ironically.
And I have to say that after revisiting the previous three films, I'm very much looking forward to part four, & I'm hoping it ends up being the best film possible. I'm keeping my fingers crossed on this one.
MysterioMan007
09-16-2010, 03:56 PM
Having enjoyed the first 2 Scream movies a lot (I saw the first one in the theaters more times than any movie and find 2 to be underrated), I was sadly disappointed in Part 3. If they can give this franchise a proper ending and make it a good movie, I'll be happy even if we don't get any further installments.
Voorheeszilla
09-16-2010, 10:30 PM
S2 is definitely underrated, it's a very good movie, & I think the story is equally appealing. With part three, it's really enjoyable for me, but there are a few things that don't make sense....like why Roman didn't just go to Sidney's home since he was able to find her number.
All in all, like the post above, if Scream 4 is going to be the last of the franchise, I want a memorable send-off, & I want someone behind the mask who is going to leave a lasting impression.
French Friday
09-19-2010, 08:23 AM
I think the theatrical cuts of both Zombie's Halloween movies (as mandated by the Weinsteins) were better than Ron's original, unaltered and seemingly cocaine-influenced "visions."
True. Exception that confirms the rule. :p
Voorheeszilla
09-19-2010, 10:03 AM
Wait....what does Rob Zombie have to do with Scream? :confused:
SlasherFreak
09-19-2010, 04:56 PM
I have a feeling this movie is gonna suck big long thick dirty donkey dick, with some monkey balls on the side.
Ya know, kinda like part 2 and 3
Voorheeszilla
09-19-2010, 05:24 PM
Part two sucked? :confused: Part two gave the first movie competition. Shit, the second movie is too fucking slept on by my count. My only gripe is who they got to portray Billy Loomis' mother. I mean, yeah, she did fine, but there are definitely better & more qualified actresses out there that could've tackled that part.
S4 will be covered on the next Entertainment Tonight.
MufBNR3RL_Q
The full Entertainment Tonight segment (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=70065)
ADDED:
Ghost Face Stalks Gale in Scream 4 Image (http://shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=16674)
Sutter Cane
09-24-2010, 06:54 AM
I'm getting pretty excited about this.
The Gunslinger
09-25-2010, 11:43 PM
I'm getting pretty excited about this.
You would.
Sutter Cane
09-26-2010, 06:04 AM
You would.
Good to see you haven't disappeared completely.
Voorheeszilla
09-26-2010, 06:10 AM
I have to admit that I'm getting pretty pumped up for this too. Hopefully they'll keep doing a good job of not allowing too much information about the film to be released publicly.
i am SAW
10-14-2010, 10:59 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/celebrity.news.gossip/10/14/david.arquette.apologizes.ppl/index.html?hpt=Sbin
MiMania
10-18-2010, 12:47 AM
the teaser played at the Scream Awards has leaked:
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the awards air on TV Tuesday night, so a HQ version will be available then.
sam hane
10-18-2010, 01:05 AM
I can't wait to see it in HD quality Tuesday night :) Looks interesting from what I could see.
Jason_Legend
10-18-2010, 03:06 AM
It looks pretty good, but something feels a little off. I hope it's great, but I have my doubts. Also with the script change rumors. Because of how Kevin Williamson is acting, makes me think it might be true.
The voice also has that kind of has that Scream 3 voice tone, A little too clear, overdone and not that creepy.
My favorite shot in the trailer, is the girl holding up the ghostface phone.
I wonder who the girl in the bra is? There probably won't be any nudity, though.
Even though there's no nudity in the series, they have some sex appeal.
1: Sidney in her night gown. Sidney flashing Billy. Sidney in her bra. Tatum in the garage.
2: Despite the hottest cast, this doesn't much sexual stuff doing on.
3: Christine in the shower and changing. Jenny McCarthy's cleavage.
Full teaser, official release (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=70893)
CanadianFonzie
10-19-2010, 07:29 PM
Emma Roberts, Hayden Panettiere, Lucy Hale, Kristen Bell AND Shenae Grimes
SO WATCHING THIS!!!
plus people get killed:D
Westin
10-19-2010, 08:02 PM
Hey, is it just me, or did they shoot different trailers to confound the audience?
The trailer played in the Scream Awards ended with Sidney confronting the killer ("do it if you have the guts"). In this new trailer, we get to see the same scene, but with Gale Weathers instead, dropping the same line as Sidney.
DouglasJ
10-19-2010, 08:15 PM
Hey, is it just me, or did they shoot different trailers to confound the audience?
The trailer played in the Scream Awards ended with Sidney confronting the killer ("do it if you have the guts"). In this new trailer, we get to see the same scene, but with Gale Weathers instead, dropping the same line as Sidney.
It's Gail in the original trailer. Shoddy quality and a similar shot a few moments earlier create the confusion.
CanadianFonzie
10-20-2010, 03:20 AM
Hey, is it just me, or did they shoot different trailers to confound the audience?
The trailer played in the Scream Awards ended with Sidney confronting the killer ("do it if you have the guts"). In this new trailer, we get to see the same scene, but with Gale Weathers instead, dropping the same line as Sidney.
so I missed the Scream awards again?:( for a 3rd straight year
The Dream Master
10-20-2010, 03:35 AM
Watched the trailer in HD on the Scream Awards. Looks doep. Very excited for it.
Apocalypto
10-20-2010, 03:48 AM
I'm gonna hate it regardless of how it turns out now, but the footage was pretty good.
Westin
10-20-2010, 04:03 AM
I totally support this movie, but on a constructive note, I think the teaser trailer could have been more innovative.
They used the *same* format of the Scream 3 trailer and, gasp, even the *same* Marco Beltrami "trouble in Woodsboro" score. I felt like I was watching the trailer of a 90's movie. Don't get me wrong, I think Craven is the man, I loved the Williamsonian-oriented witty lines and I feel certain that this movie is going to rock, but the trailer could have been more innovative, stylistically speaking.
I am not talking about the movies, but the trailers produced by Platinum Dunes (for example, TCM 2003; Friday the 13th 2009) are epic.
The Dream Master
10-20-2010, 04:08 AM
I get the feeling it wasn't really a proper trailer; I bet a different one pops up in theaters.
Jason_Legend
10-20-2010, 05:35 AM
Something just feels off about the teaser trailers. I'm hoping they're holding back or something.
sam hane
10-20-2010, 06:29 AM
No it shows the whole movie in the teaser trailer cause that's what teaser means. :)
French Friday
10-21-2010, 06:32 PM
I can't say that trailer convinces me it will be a great movie, but it sure will be - at worst - as good as Scream 3. I hope it will reach the original or close to it.
Andiac
11-10-2010, 04:50 AM
Scream Scream Scream Scream Scream Scream Scream
What is my favourite horror film of the 90s?
What is being released next April?
How can I contain my excitement?
Jus-X
11-10-2010, 07:28 PM
How can I contain my excitement?
With a bottle of tequila and a wash cloth.
Jus-X
11-13-2010, 06:40 PM
Three New Pics Posted (http://www.dreadcentral.com/news/40922/three-new-stab-happy-images-scream-4)
Jason_Legend
12-07-2010, 07:41 PM
I don't know why, but I've been burnt-out on this movie, for the past 3 or 4 weeks. I can't get excited about it right now. Has that happened to anymore else waiting on a movie?
Darth Sinister
12-07-2010, 10:54 PM
Once and it was for "Attack Of The Clones". Mostly it had to do with talking about it to death when I first started posting on a Star Wars board. For a couple of months I posted in other forums until new material came out and then I regained the interest that I had. That's why I just focus on other things.
WesReviews
12-20-2010, 08:48 PM
New Ghostface figure coming from NECA.
Meet the New Ghost Face, Courtesy of NECA! (http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/22769)
http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/photosizer/timthumb.php?src=/photosizer/upload/screamfig121610.jpg&w=600&zc=0
Not sure on the specific movie, but it could possibly be from Scream 4. Definitely looks a tad different than past Ghostface costumes.
Darth Sinister
12-20-2010, 11:27 PM
Looks like the hood and torso are like a leather jacket compared to the first three films.
Apocalypto
12-21-2010, 10:21 PM
Yeah, I noticed that too, I don't really like that look...I like it better as just one big long robe.
Now why would they use such contrasting materials for 2 parts of the same costume?
it just looks bad.
From the pics we've seen Ghostface is still wearing one long fabric robe in this flic.
The Dream Master
12-21-2010, 10:45 PM
I think it's just the way the figure is made; to get the material that drapes down on the arms and at the bottom, they used cloth to get it hang right. Ghostface doesn't really look like that in the trailer.
Apocalypto
12-21-2010, 10:53 PM
I certainly hope he doesn't, he didn't appear to have that look in the trailer as far as I could tell either, and I wouldn't buy a figure that's designed that way.
Its kind of the same thing with the 12 inch Jason from the reboot, the sleves are plastic but the rest of his coat is fabric, however it works fine for the Jason figure.
This ghostface figure looks terrible.
They should have just given him a fabric robe.
Even a whole molded plastic outfit would have looked a ton better.
Apocalypto
12-21-2010, 11:15 PM
Yeah, MovieManiacs Ghostface is an all molded robe and it looks fine.
Sutter Cane
12-22-2010, 03:40 AM
Huh? NECA usually has such amazing figures. This is probably the worst one I've seen by far.
Jus-X
12-22-2010, 03:47 PM
As long as we don't get a rebooted look in the film I'm still okay. I was okay with Jason in a t-shirt and jacket, I had a problem with his huge neck. I was okay with a dirty outfit and mask on Mikey, I had a problem with the cracks in the mask and the long hair. So as long as they don't touch Ghostface's outfit and make it look like this toy, I'm fine.
WesReviews
12-22-2010, 03:55 PM
I'm hoping they take a few jabs at Rob Zombie in Scream 4. It hadn't really occurred to me before that they might, but I suppose it's a possibility. Afterall, there are multiple Ghostface costumes in this one, from what we've seen. Perhaps, one comes from a "Stab" remake.
Jus-X
12-22-2010, 04:06 PM
I'm hoping they take a few jabs at Rob Zombie in Scream 4. It hadn't really occurred to me before that they might, but I suppose it's a possibility. Afterall, there are multiple Ghostface costumes in this one, from what we've seen. Perhaps, one comes from a "Stab" remake.
Nothing's been communicated that this film will mention anything about remakes yet, but I have an inkling that you are right sir. The first film tackled the "rules" of the horror movie. The second film tackled the sequel to the horror movie, and the third tackled the trilogy.
Now by definition for something to be a trilogy it can only contain 3 movies. Well look, a fourth movie is being made at a time when remakes, reboots, and re-imaginings are at an all-time rise. It's going to be called Scream 4, it will have the returning characters for the first trilogy, but what's been hinted is that a Scream 5 and 6 will be coming in the future as well. It only makes sense for Scream 4 to tackle the idea of a Stab Remake and poke fun at remakes... and I reeeaaaally hope they make fun of Zombie in the flick. Since it doesn't sound like any of the original characters will be showing up in 5 and 6, I'm sure that 4 will be the start of a completely separate trilogy.
WesReviews
01-06-2011, 05:21 AM
Plot revealed by ShockTillYouDrop...
Scream 4 Synopsis Leaks Via Test Screening Pass
Source: Shock Till You Drop January 5, 2011
Although you could probably glean the following details about Scream 4 from the sundry photo leaks, trailer and other intel that has hit the web, a synopsis of sorts has been revealed.
This comes by the way of a test screening pass, found by astute Shock reader Joey M. The film is being played to test audiences tomorrow night in Pennsylvania.
Sidney Prescott (Neve Campbell), now the author of a self-help book, returns home to Woodsboro on the last stop of her book tour. There she reconnects with Sheriff Dewey (David Arquette) and Gale (Courteney Cox), who are now married, as well as her cousin Jill (Emma Roberts) and her Aunt Kate (Mary McDonnell). Unfortunately, Sidney's appearance also brings about the return of Ghostface, putting Sidney, Gale, and Dewey, along with Jill, her friends, and the whole town of Woodsboro in danger.
Time will tell if this is the synopsis Dimension will hit the press with. Sounds good to us.
Seems fairly general, but I figured I'd put spoiler tags just in case.
Jason_Legend
01-06-2011, 07:05 AM
I can'tt believe they're test screening this movie. They won't show the ending, or will they?
Hoody
01-06-2011, 01:27 PM
It's Billy's father
Jus-X
01-06-2011, 06:14 PM
It's Billy's father
I don't know if you're being serious or not. If you are then I hate myself for peeking!
But personally, I would love to see Sidney as the killer. I always said in part 3 it would be great to see her as the killer, like her mind broke down and she went Norman Bates on us with duel personalities and conversing with herself. I actually thought in part 3 with seeing her mother and hearing her own voice over the phone that she was the killer. To my dismay we got her brother. :doh:
But if you're being serious Hoody, then I won't bother, because I know how the confrontation's going to go down:
"Your mother destroyed me family!"
"That's what Billy said."
"You caused my divorce."
"Yup, he said that too."
"You killed my son!"
"You're beginning to sound like your ex-wife."
"And when I thought we were getting back together, you kill her!"
"You know something Mr. Loomis, your whole family's fucked in the head!"
*stab stab stab*
*Sidney finally gets killed*
*Cousin comes in the knick of time and gets the upperhand*
http://i437.photobucket.com/albums/qq94/Tom_Saunders_/sisko_facepalm.gif
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